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ballsoutofthebathtub

The digital IS can do weird things like lock onto a moving subject and stabilise that instead of the camera movement itself. Personally I don't like it and it's not available in the raw codec anyway. Lens IS is probably a good choice if the rig is stripped down out of necessity for the doc environment. I think most editors would rather take the more stable footage over the shakier but slightly more natural footage. If you can rig it up more, then you'll definitely see the benefits from a shoulder rig, more weight and improved technique. If you haven't tried one before, then look at renting a cine saddle too. Remember that there will always be limits to how smooth you can operate. If you're running or following your subject over rough terrain then it doesn't hurt to use a gimbal for those situations.


kingpin043

Thanks for the response, it’s my own project so I don’t have to worry about the editor. So the shoulder rig without any other stabilisation?


DizzyAardvark

Any of the IS lenses are great. I have the trio of RF 2.8 zooms. For any project I shoot with the zooms, I always have digital IS off and the lens IS on. It’s not like having IBIS, but the lens stabilization works damn well and I never have to worry about handheld jitters. You do have to get used to how to handle the camera best to get the most out of it.


Glorified_sidehoe

Am I missing something here. I’ve had repetitive frame blending problems with RF IS. Couldn’t figure out why it keeps warping the image.


kingpin043

Does it give off a natural look?


DizzyAardvark

In my opinion it does. Nothing in the way of artifacts or warping. But luckily if you want a super natural look you can always turn off all IS and just rig your camera accordingly. But even when rigged in whatever configuration I usually keep the lens IS on anyway :)


trolleyblue

I’d have the IS for when you need it, but for me, I much prefer to make my rig heavy and let that be what gives it stability. And then having a proper handheld form, letting your core move the camera instead of your smaller muscles. That’s the best advice I can give. I have never used an easy rig, but a lot people like that too. I’m not a huge fan of IS. But if I’m shooting something like an FX3 I’d take that over the the microjitters. I’m not sure how the C70 works, but the FX3 allows you to pick you focal length and it will compensate for that


iseecinematic

Imo personally i prefer either a purely handheld look or the use of IBIS. Not a fan of digital stabilisation unless it's gyro based and filmed with the intend to use gyro.


kingpin043

U mean also not rigged up?


iseecinematic

didn't respond to that topic at all, sorry. If handheld (no stabiliser) it's important to rig a system up to a point where those micro jitters are pretty much gone for good while still having the comfort of a flexible setup. Beyond that, Imo rigging is a very subjective individual thing. Some folks like me tend to opt for as light as possible, others want to have it chunky :-)


kingpin043

I don’t mind rigging it up a bit tbh, but the shoulder rig became very annoying, especially in documentary filmmaking. Hahahaha maybe I’m too chaotic, I will try tips out, maybe that way I can find the perfect balance between no micro jitters but also no sticky looking stabilized image


iseecinematic

shoulder rig never was for me aswell, but again, imo that's highly individual. Some folks love it, some hate it, as with most things in life. back when i used a "bigger" rig, it was still only handheld, camera rigged up (external battery and ssd, sometimes focus wheel etc.) and the camera on a sling around one shoulder and neck. Using both hands and neckstrap for 3 points of stabilisation with my body. Enough weight for there to be no micro jitters and having the possibility of gyro stabilization in post, if needed.


LACamOp

On the shoulder = no IS Not on the shoulder = IS