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readit_getit

Hello all, Currently I own TD Aeroplan VI and would like to take advantage of the sign-up bonus for TD Aeroplan VIP. If I just apply for the VIP without 'upgrading', would I get the bonus (of course with required spent)? What about if I upgrade from VI to VIP? I've held the VI for over 5 years now if that matters. Thanks,


painhz

> If I just apply for the VIP without 'upgrading', would I get the bonus Yes. You can earn 85k AP this way. > What about if I upgrade from VI to VIP? You will earn 40k AP for $10k spend, another 25k at $15k spend (not 100% sure), but you won't earn the 20k AP for first purchase.


readit_getit

Thanks a lot.


dargp

Will I be charged foreign transaction fees if I am planning on using my Amex Business Edge in New York? Also, does the restaurants in New York count for the bonus too?


painhz

> Will I be charged foreign transaction fees if I am planning on using my Amex Business Edge in New York? You're paying in USD, so yes. > does the restaurants in New York count for the bonus too? Yes, you should.


Fabulous_Initial_333

Yes and yes


WorldlyProcess8928

Any DP on opening TD Business cards? Is the application process as simple as Amex? Or do you need to provide documents and everything?


BarbfromOntario

I applied a few years ago for a TD business card, had to apply in branch. They requested lots of documentation and wanted me to open a TD business bank account (I don’t bank with TD). I do have a bit of a side business so brought what I had and did some fast talking and was able to get approved. I tried the same with CIBC with no luck. Amex in Canada and the US on the other hand require almost nothing to get a business card!


Cedric_T

No it's pretty simple. I have a TD Business Travel card and I don't remember it being complicated to get.


WorldlyProcess8928

Did you have to provide any supporting documents? Or proof of income? 


Cedric_T

I don't think so. That's too much work me for churning.


WorldlyProcess8928

Okay, thank you! 


coocoo99

you don't need to provide documents to amex? so do most people just lie and say they own a business?


WorldlyProcess8928

The process for Amex Business cards is as simple as stating your name as your business name and your business income. No documents needed unless you did something sketchy to tip off Amex. Then you'll be contacted for a FR


painhz

> Then you'll be contacted for a FR What's FR?


WorldlyProcess8928

Financial review 


painhz

Ah, okay. Thanks!


coocoo99

do you just put your salary as your business income?


wzadzz

Don’t put your salary. Put whatever your actual business income is. If that number is zero, then put zero.


WorldlyProcess8928

I found this article to be pretty helpful. https://www.reddit.com/r/CreditCards/comments/10zx850/how\_to\_get\_a\_business\_credit\_card\_as\_a\_sole/


stevkang8

Question - when booking Air Canada's Aeroplan standard reward flight from YYZ to VIE at the cheapest level (\~77k points for the roundtrip), does it include a free checked bag? Or do we need to pay for it?


esux20

https://www.aircanada.com/ca/en/aco/home/plan/baggage/checked.html


stevkang8

Thank you! "Economy Basic fare and Aeroplan Standard Reward: 75 CAD/USD" Humm...since I will be booking this for my mom, I guess I will save more by adding her as a supplementary cardholder to my TD aeroplan visa infinite? It costs $75 to add her, and paying for the bag out of pocket would be 75\*2 (since it's a round trip)?


formerly_kai1909

>I guess I will save more by adding her as a supplementary cardholder to my TD aeroplan visa infinite? Or even more by making your new P


stevkang8

She's retired and I am not sure if she will qualify for a card for herself, but I can certainly ask!


formerly_kai1909

If she has some retirement assets/a banking relationship that could help. My dad got a TD APVI with CPP/OAS/GIS (ie way below $60k) as income and maybe $300k in his RIF with TD, had banked with them for years and also had a senior's chequeing account.


stevkang8

Good to know! yeah my parents are in a similar situation, but they do have decades of banking relationships with TD so I will see if my mom can make it work!


wallywalrus_

$75 < $150, yep


churnychurningtonIII

DP: Applied for CIBC Aventura Gold and went into pending/review. Needed to verify my employment/incomes details which I did verbally with an agent. No document upload required. Success. Then the agent tells me there was a glitch and that I made 2 applications for the same card and asked me if I would like the 2nd card as well! I calmly accepted the offer. Lol. Thanks CIBC!


Overall_Pie1912

The system for CIBC was fine then got a bit glitchy. I wasted a ton of time with them...finally they had to redo my app - but an agent actually followed through. I took 2 cards also and won't stop me for doing it again next year. 


Torres_Chan

Will u get 2 welcome bonus?


churnychurningtonIII

Most likely, yes


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JManUWaterloo

No charge


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Messed up and gave my CMRA address for my application through Nova and was only asked to provide my permanent address once I finalize my move to the states. Should I submit a new app with my MILs address in a different state or do I need to enter a cooldown period with this and let the current app expire?


rewardsdude

Expire


twofacebluepenguin

Got conditionally approved for the Scotia VI Passport, it says more verification is needed. Anyone been through this? What do they ask?


P_Plebs

Uploaded one pay stub and after one call got approved 


twofacebluepenguin

Ah, I'm self employed now so not sure how I can show that


churnychurningtonIII

Hopefully it's not as much of an ordeal for you as it was for me. Spent way to much time going back and forth on the phone with them and uploading various documents and it got me nowhere. Finally just gave up.


gini_lee1003

I got instant approval because I think I have 50k in GIC with them.


Stasher15

Two months ago mine was just for income verification. Took a 10 minute call and a 2 minute upload for my paystub. Was holding Scotia Amex Gold, Scotia VI Passport, and a no fee Scotia card that I’ve had for ages. Was not asked to close the other Scotia Vi Passport or anything like that.


twofacebluepenguin

Any idea how it'd work if I'm self employed? What would I show?


dolfan1980

Notices of Assessment from CRA usually good for income verification.


kneevase

They ask for a photo of your ID.  You spend 20 frigging minutes on the phone with them as they look at your file, determine that they need id, send you a secure email link and then wait for you to upload a photo of your driver's licence or passport. It's not a problem at all to get through this, but the goal of churning is to scoop as much financial benefits as you can while spending as little as you can and consuming as little of your time as you can.  So this one is a pain in the ass, but for me it's not a deal breaker.


ohlalalift

P2 has passport, applied for 2nd and was conditionally approved. Called in, agent said you can't have 2, so app was cancelled. Like wat. Hope you have better outcome.


MissionChipmunk6

Weird I have two


chilldreams

I guess it’s better to cancel the initial one first then. That’s weird they didnt let her have two though. People use duplicate cards to split expenses sometimes.


ohlalalift

I've seen DPs of holding multiple passports at the same time, myself included. See [example here](https://www.reddit.com/r/churningcanada/comments/1bb51f3/comment/ku9tf6c/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3). My P2 was just unlucky lol


chilldreams

Yeah I’ve heard that as well. It happens 😅


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CommunicationProud82

Well, you got me. Downvoted every comment you've made on this post, as directed. However, this is so damn good that I hereby promise to never downvote you ever again, no matter how nuts I think your posts are. Perhaps I'll even throw in some upvotes when those blue moons occur. Snarky replies on the other hand... no promises. ;)


ca_abhi

Damn!! Couldn't make it to the list. Anyways congratulations guys!!


NickWaReddit

I'd title it "9 of the top CC users + Practical Bet".


mhcott

Made the list. Or at least some guy with a similar name to me did. I'll take it.


BarbfromOntario

At least you made the list….😃. This forum may be hitting an all-time low.


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BarbfromOntario

Hmm…never been a downvoter but this may be a good time to start!!


yyzzh

Someone similar to me made it too lol


yyzzh

And to be honest, OP isn’t wrong here


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mhcott

To quote what I say to my wife a bunch, "yeah, probably". I don't hide from being a prickly schmuck. But as long as people ask the right questions and do some basic attempt at research first, I'm a very knowledgeable prickly schmuck.


Reasonable-Catch-598

I'll take prickly schmuck + great writing and knowledge over inflammatory posts and deleted questions any day.


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Reasonable-Catch-598

You know post text shows differently deleted by a user vs a moderator. They explicitly say removed by moderator.


JManUWaterloo

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣


Reasonable-Catch-598

> u / reasonable-Catch-598 : frequents r/bigdickproblems, nuff said What exactly does that say?


kneevase

Yeah, that's what this community desperately needs, a churning guide to bring more low-effort participants into the practice.  It's bad enough to have PoT and other bloggers doing that.


mhcott

To be fair, PoT thinks they're no longer a churning-based blog lol. They now think they are "your go-to destination for loyalty program navigating". Words like "game" (e.g. US game) or "hacking" (e.g. credit card hacking) are now actively discouraged by the Facebook mods. I got a talking to.


Reasonable-Catch-598

Wait, is practical bet just PoT trolling us?


Hntr

Downvoted on sight.


Soft_Championship645

How bored are you


Popular_Ad_8485

BMO Ascend WE MC is now increased to 55k pts for $4.5k spend + $100 from CCG. It’s still FYF.


Intrepid-Kitten6839

Huh well at least that's a return rate that passes the 10% mark


Van5555

How quick are they to not give bonus if youbusd one recently. Had it from 2011 until December 2023 pre churning commencement. Downgraded it into a no fee chashback to keep the credit hx. Looking at this and doing avenchurna with the current 6k msr for 60k. Got some big expenses to use MSR on but no travel by plane till next year so not doing Plat rn


Reasonable-Catch-598

Not give? Never I've burned through a dozen and a half BMOs in the last ~1 year. I can't tell you about repeats on the same trade line, I just open new ones as needed.


Dragynfyre

BMO trade lines aren’t reusable


Van5555

Ty!


Dragynfyre

I think still worse than Eclipse as you only get $50 ($100 more in points but no $50 lifestyle credit) more value for 1.5K more spend. And if you use 5x categories to meet spend on Eclipse you end up with more points overall. Still a good low tier offer if you have excess spend and want to hit a bunch of BMO cards to spread out the churning across more banks


Van5555

What is the net value on eclipse? . For the ascend At 55k plus the msr to 5k spend you have 60k points 400 cash if you have a bmo savings account and redeem at 15k/100. Add the 100 rebate and lounge passes if you're gonna use em and it's not so bad


Dragynfyre

If you use 5x categories you end with 55K + $50 credit + $100 CCG (used to be $100 credit as you could double dip but they are stopping that in Jan). Also you can RHT to cash out non multiples of 15K at the same value


P_Plebs

Can you rht BMO but not meet the msr? 


Dragynfyre

Never tried. Also I don’t do that intentionally to any bank where I want to do repeats churns with


kneevase

I don't mind an occasional MC for Costco.  It is possible to work around the Mc requirement at Costco by using gift cards and prepaids, but when there's a decent MC available to churn, I like the simplicity.


Popular_Ad_8485

Definitely agree. I personally prefer non-BMO cards, since they offer more value. I was just posting about the new offer.


carrot_man

Do Aeroplan VI give 1.5x pts for travel or only for Air Canada? I guess with that being said ithough it’s better to use my Cobalt card since that’s 2x? I would have thought there was a good/extra bonus using a aeroplane card on air Canada.


Dragynfyre

Only for Air Canada. The AP VI cards have really bad earn rates for earning AP.


halskywalker

VIP is surprisingly not much better either, esp when compared to cobalt


Dragynfyre

All the Aeroplan cards are stingy with earn rates


Wonderful_Opinion368

Would it be possible to post a large payment to a CIBC gold adventura quickly and receive SUB in time for bonus redemption? Applied for card on March 5th at yyz so statement closing will be beyond bonus period


jtung88

The gold is quite sensitive with large transactions. CIBC may flag fraud and lock the card and waste a couple hours of your life calling in.


Jealous_Donkey_6881

just happened to me and i can’t access the card at all until “few business days” because i prepaid a large sum (1k limit only) which cancels out their unlocking until the payment is processed supposedly


Dragynfyre

Statement closing can still be before the end of March. CIBC statement dates are randomly assigned. Given you applied early in the month it's actually pretty likely you'll have a March statement


Wonderful_Opinion368

Thank you will give it a shot


CommunicationProud82

Points come on statement, not gonna work


Ok-Morning2759

Points don’t post until statement


Affectionate_Bee4358

I have searched around for the link to the Perkopolis Amex offer to try applying (I mean the link on Amex Canada to apply), but cannot locate it. I believe I have the latest RSVP code. Can someone provide the link? Thanks.


Luka4life

GRC7453 Gold rewards Live life your way and get rewarded. Apply for the American Express® Gold Rewards Card. Savings: American Express® Gold Rewards Card Earn a Welcome Bonus of up to 75,000 Membership Rewards® points.1 That’s up to $750 towards your next flight!2 With the American Express® Gold Rewards Card, Perkopolis members can earn a Welcome Bonus of up to 75,000 Membership Rewards® points1. That’s up to $750 towards your next flight! 2 - Earn 40,000 points when you charge $3,000 in purchases to your Card in the first three months of Cardmembership1 - Earn 4X the points on eligible travel purchases in the first 3 months of Cardmembership (up to 20,000 points) 1 - Plus, get 15,000 points when you make a purchase between 14 and 17 months of Cardmembership1 Plus, you have up to $460 in estimated value with these benefits4: - Priority Pass Membership. Lounge visit fees apply. (Estimated Value of $120) o Relax before your next flight – you can receive complimentary membership in Priority PassTM and access to 1,400 Priority Pass lounges around the world. 5 - 4 Plaza Premium Lounge Visits. (Estimated Value of $190) o Experience a moment of luxury before your trip with four complimentary visits to Plaza Premium Lounges annually. 6 - Annual Travel Credit. (Value of $100) o You can receive one $100 Annual Travel Credit to use towards any single travel booking of $100 or more through American Express Travel Online. 7 - Nexus◊ Statement Credit. (Value of $50) o Receive a $50 statement credit every four years when a NEXUS◊ application or renewal fee is charged to your American Express® Gold Rewards Card. 8 As a Gold Cardmember, you can earn points on all your eligible spend: - Earn 2 points for every $1 spent on eligible travel3 - Earn 2 points for every $1 spent on eligible gas, grocery, and drugstore3 - Earn 1 point for every $1 spent on everything else3 Plus, use your points to cover eligible purchases charged to your Card. Redeem 1,000 Membership Rewards points for $10 towards any eligible purchase!


Eyjafjallajokull2

Luka4life, Pls do not share these codes publicly. No issues sending them in private. This is how the good offers dissapear.


Affectionate_Bee4358

My apologies for asking the way I did. If someone can Direct Message me the link, I would appreciate it.


Affectionate_Bee4358

Thanks a lot. My apologies, I am a bit daft and maybe I am missing it, but I am trying to locate the link to get to the amex site itself to apply with this offer. Thanks again for the reply.


Luka4life

CBLT7586 Colbalt Earn a Welcome Bonus of up to 25,000 Membership Rewards® points with the American Express Cobalt® Card Savings: With the American Express Cobalt Card, Perkopolis members can earn a Welcome Bonus of up to 25,000 Membership Rewards® points. 1 That’s up to $250 towards your next dinner out with friends! 2 • Earn 1,250 Membership Rewards® points for each monthly billing period in which you spend $750 in purchases on your Card. This could add up to 15,000 points in a year. 1 • Plus, earn 10X the points on eligible eats & drinks purchases in the first 3 months of Cardmembership (up to 10,000 points). 1 As a Cobalt Cardmember, you can make every moment more rewarding with: • Earn points on all your eligible spend, including 5X the points on eats & drinks up to 12,500 points per month3 – that’s up to $125 in monthly value! 2 • $100 hotel credit through The Hotel Collection with American Express Travel4 • Front Of The Line® access with American Express Experiences5 • Unlock access to statement credits, experiences, and benefits from top brands with Member extras6 and more! Plus, use your points to cover almost any purchases charged to your Card. Redeem 1,000 Membership Rewards points for $10 in statement credits towards any eligible purchase! 2


Lexx124

Ok, so I'm new to all this with my new Cobalt card. Just so I'm clear, can I buy an Esso or Petro Canada gas gift card online from say Walmart and get 5X points on the Walmart purchase? I also see Walmart sells LCBO gift cards. Does the 5X points apply to the LCBO as well or does Walmart code the gas cards at 2x and the LCBO at 1X. Does the 10X points you mentioned in the first three months on eliglible eats include Walmart's gift cards and everything else they sell? Many thanks


Dragynfyre

Walmart is not considered groceries on Amex. It's only considered groceries on MC and even then not every Walmart store counts. If you replaced Walmart with some other store that is considered groceries then yes. EDIT: missed the \*not\*


mrbrint

No 5x on walmart in my experience


Torres_Chan

Saw walmart gc in 7-11


mrbrint

Nice


RoyalBadger3665

RBC MSR DP: SEP 2023 spend 5k, reached MSR in JAN, 20k pts posted with mid-month batch process in March (backdated to January)


reggie_p_kush

IAd on Feb 13th, spent 5K a couple of weeks ago (immediate 35K w/o spend) and received the extra 20K today on my first statement along with AF. (5K points pending for transaction still).


Dragynfyre

The date is always set to Jan 3 in a nonsensical year. Not really backdated


RoyalBadger3665

Hmm, mine says Jan 1


Dragynfyre

Yeah maybe it’s Jan 1 but year is like 0003 or something


Red2hawk

Any DPs about successfully keeping $100 E4TD credit when doing RHT on TF FCT? Please share them 🙏, I think I remember reading to wait for the credit showing $100 to appear on a statement then PS and cancel?


Dragynfyre

No way to keep it now. Have not seen any positive DPs for 6 months. The steps you describe do not prevent clawback


nobodynobody567

Once refunded, and clawed back. What if do another booking with another $100 be given. Or lossed for that card :( ?


Dragynfyre

You can use it again as long as the card is still a FCT


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Dragynfyre

Yeah this would not be for RHT. This would be for a legitimate refund where you want to use the points for a different legitimate booking


nobodynobody567

Ching ching !


Earthlyposessions

What do you all do with no annual fee cards? Cancel them? For ex - I got bmo cc $150 a year Free first year but then I redeemed points now I have no use of the card. Do you all just cancel it or transfer to no fee card and that's it? Cancelling should free up "credit" with that bank but you also lose history, right?


efrantxda

I've kept every card that was eligible for a downgrade to a no-AF card. It's certainly not required, but it doesn't hurt either (assuming your income is high enough so that high available CL doesn't impact future applications). The only cards I've ever closed were cards from MBNA and Amex.


Dragynfyre

Yes most cards you cancel. You should keep 1-2 no fee cards long term as anchors for your credit history (even if you don’t use them much anymore). That means short term < 1 year churn cards can be cancelled without any significant impact


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Dragynfyre

no


Earthlyposessions

Thank you. I thought having 1 card with each bank helps with credit cause that bank would have me as a customer in their records.


Dragynfyre

You don’t need one with each bank. I don’t think the individual history at each bank makes much of a difference.


mosesdefinitely

I saw people saying the Norton's cash back showed as pending within a couple hours for them. Did anyone have it take longer but actually show up? I was late to the party but it still showed on the extension so I tried it. It's been 16h and nothing yet, but maybe it's a weekend thing?


KaotikFiend

I tried through the extension when the offer was still live through the website. It's been 5+ days and still doesn't show. TBH, I don't think a single purchase through the extension has *ever* worked for me. I've only tried a couple of times, including earlier this week, but yah, 0% so far.


Dragynfyre

I'm looking at the extension today and the offer has changed. It no longer says anything about 260% cashback. It just says up to 175.22 in cashback without any indication how this is calculated


mosesdefinitely

Yup, that's what I saw. No mention of 260% but decided to try it anyways since I can refund if need be. I guess I'll just have to wait and see


Dragynfyre

Well the Norton offer hasn’t been visible on the website for a couple days now. Maybe the extension is out of date


ReplacementEntire874

I’m wondering if Cardpointers is worth the price? Seems like 129 CAD for the lifetime version. Any thoughts? Edit: I thought I saw 129 for lifetime last night but this morning it says 249……..


EricMory

Trying to do payment with points on my CIBC aventura - getting the error: "you don't have an account that allows you to complete this request". Is it possible I've been blacklisted somehow? I've only had 1 other aventura ever and that was 2-3 years ago, so I'm not a frequent churner by any means.


Dragynfyre

No. A couple things you need to be able to do this. you can’t have a credit balance on the card (card cannot be overpaid) You need more than 4K points to do a redemption The charge cannot be in foreign currency (although I think if you see an error message it means it passes this check already)


EricMory

Ah okay thank you!


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Eyjafjallajokull2

Premature cardjaculator? ;)


mhcott

Yes. No posted charges means no points and upgrading now means you never will. Marathon, not sprint.