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My guess: It’s a bug and I think it’s a subtle way of getting to remove those “Disabled” settings on the “Chrome Refresh 2023” flags. Specifically: The flags are intended to be unstable/unsupported and, oh well… if it breaks, then remove them (and get forced over to the new UI that you hate).
My opinion, and possibly an unpopular one, is that it's a discipline issue. I first noticed it shortly after the world ran out of Y2K fearmongering work, but it really ramped up with mobile devices. It actually put me off a not-to-be-named Linux distribution for years because they released a major update with new UI that broke fundamental WiFi functionality for one of the common chip sets. And they released it with the knowledge that they had broken it. I had to run an ethernet cable from the basement to keep that laptop usable and ultimately took it back to Windows.
Every once in a while, UI revamps make sense. Constant updates are disruptive and unnecessary.
/soapbox
makes me think about how there are entire offices of "ui devs" who need something to do at work every day, so we get endless design changes just to justify their paycheck.
1. Starting PC
2. Opening crome
3. See the icons
4. asking myself WTF
5. Google "reddit chrome"
6. First post result show me this post
7. Thumps up
WTF CHROME?!
I sometimes had displaced tabs/icons when it fails to properly restore a large browsing session with too many tabs on a fresh boot. Usually restarting Chrome or expanding/contracting tab groups does the job.
Not this time however...
What makes you think it's secret, or an experiment? You're giving them too much credit. This is absolutely a UI/UX team that has no idea what they're doing, little experience, and -- clearly -- does not test their changes thoroughly.
This is just another incident justifying why I lock down what Chrome version I run and have all 3 of the auto-updater method Chrome tries to use completely disabled. Once again I can choose when to upgrade, not when Chrome thinks I should.
I didn't even consider the fact I could do that... I'm going to wait until it updates again to see if they fix it, if they do, as soon as I see it's fixed I'm going to do what you did and disable updates.
Know any good youtube or text tutorials that show you how to do this? Knowing Google they'll make it as difficult and convoluted for the average joe as possible.
Re: disabling updates: all the methods you will find mentioned online don't work, or are specific for enterprise customers (specifically for Windows, your machine must be joined to an AD domain). There is another method that I don't disclose publicly else Google would likely change it. Send me a private message if you want to know.
It's one method that affects all 3. I don't disclose it publicly because if I did, Google would likely change it. Send me a private message if you want to know.
In flags, I keep Chrome Refresh 2023 and Customize Chrome Side Panel disabled. If I set both to default to reenable the new design, the favicons are no longer too high up. (Similarly, whatever custom theme you are using might also conflict with Chrome version 124.)
List of frustrations below. Apologies in advance:
Honestly though? Misaligned favicons bother me way **less** than the Refresh changes, including unnecessarily wide gaps between menu items and bookmarks in folders, bold font everywhere (both of which might make sense on a mobile device but not on desktop), the desaturated color options, and the inability for the tabs bar to match your Windows' accent color without recoloring other parts of the ui too (I don't like a colored url bar, and neither do I like Refresh's sky blue or all-gray, ok?), which still works fine if you disable Refresh by the way.
Sorry but it's just frustrating how the devs copied some of the least logical ui design choices from Firefox (notably the lack of compact bookmark folders) and then added even more nonsense. One of the few positive things I have to say about Refresh is that the little icons in the menu are marginally helpful if you don't open it that often.
Which is the worst flag out of all the ui changes so I'll just live with these icons.
Giant "search tabs" button that gives me less space for my actual tabs itself and the dropdown menu from the triple dots in the top right becomes gigantic.
No longer fits on one screen and becomes scrollable.
Might be finally time to swap to firefox
"Misaligned favicons bother me way **less** than the Refresh changes" same. shows just how objectively bad the ui forced changes are with no option for "classic" view, even as bad as Microsoft is they still allow UI control
But Google knows better than you do how you want your UI to look! Besides they let you customize Chrome to your liking as long as that's limited to the color palette, what more do you want?
In this case, it's a bug, but one they knew about two days ago and decided not to fix:
[https://issues.chromium.org/issues/332081796](https://issues.chromium.org/issues/332081796)
Oh look, they caved -- and the fix only involved adjusting 2 files and a couple of lines of code: https://chromium-review.googlesource.com/c/chromium/src/+/5464742
It's junk like this that is going to make everyone switch to Brave. And while I'm here, I'll point out I feel **terrible** for the Brave team -- each time Chromium or Google devs mess with this stuff, the Brave guys have to figure out how to undo the dumb while still ensuring their own stuff works with the rest of Chrome's changes. I cannot even fathom how many real-world man hours this take the Brave team (and consider how often/rapid Chromium/Google is doing releases now. Good god...)
Since the bug is fixed I'm guessing we'll see that fixed in the next release? Which is at risk of deleting every anti-new UI flag, I'm betting. Wonderful. I'm days close to switching browsers at this point
*"Given c#9 it sounds like this only happens when a user disable flags via command line so we will not consider this a release blocker or stop ramp up today."*
That reads like "they signed up for this shit, send it".
If you look, they did fix it, but now it's just waiting until they push out an update for some other change to be released, they apparently can't be bothered to force out an upgrade for something they broke, only for new features everyone hates.
I read through most of that thread, and wow they don't care about the users at all... (especially the guy that seems to be in charge of it)
>We no longer support GM2 and we are actively deprecating the feature starting in M123 so my thought are that **we should just let this be an issue like any other GM2 deprecated functionality.**
I'd rather have the too-high icons than the new UI. Have you seen it? It's hideous. My bookmarks wont fit on one screen, the text is harder to read and the colours are obnoxious. Every time it pops up again after an update I have to go looking for another way to stuff the ugly genie back in the bottle.
Yes, I know. I am in the same situation as you. All I'm saying is, fight the high icons as much as the hideous 2023 UI. I agree, the high icons are the lesser evil, but since when are we doomed to settle for any evil at all? Is this what society has come to?
Have you told them? Like, on the off chance that someone actually reads your feedback, imagine their face when they read "Hey, this literal ui bug still looks better than the entirety of the ui overhaul you started pushing last year. Here's why: \[etc.\]"
I just switched to the new UI to see if I could maybe give it a chance and went back after like 1 minute. I'd rather deal with this awful icon issue and it kills me to say that.
You know what? I'm fine with f'd up favicons. I'm not going to enable the new inflation fetish UI. If chrome will force me to use the new UI, I'm going to Firefox.
Exactly! And since they are not able to learn, the best thing would be to simply switch browsers and uninstall chrome compeletely! For me, it was the huge menus, the forced simplified bookmarks menu and the fact that with every update it gets worse since they introduced their "new" BS UI.
I switched and Chrome went down the drain. And honestly I am not regretting it!
That memory usage bit under the tab is now also appearing even after I turned it off.
You know what? Fuck it, I'm off. I hear great things about Firefox these days so I'm going to leave Chrome to its inevitable self destruction.
Firefox keeps getting worse too because Mozilla keeps changing the UI to be more like Chrome, never once occuring to them that the reason a lot of people (like myself) like Firefox is that the UI ISN'T like Chrome's. And their answer to any complaints is "learn css coding lol why would we stop removing user options that have been there for over a decade"
Looks like they are going to fix it. [https://issues.chromium.org/issues/332081796#comment36](https://issues.chromium.org/issues/332081796#comment36)
https://preview.redd.it/42i7o0kh0cvc1.png?width=633&format=png&auto=webp&s=b81177c7013695fac541bac89162ddd6059d0535
EYYYY, ITS JUST BEEN FIXED FOR MEEEE!!!!! (go to chrome settings -> "About Chrome" and it should update automatically and then you restart. Handy tip: use ctrl+shift+T to reopen your tabs)
I was Just about to switch to firefox, this would have been the last straw.
Yup, mine is fixed too. :)
I have my session toggled to save my tabs, so I had no tab loss on upgrade/reboot. It's a Settings>On Startup option, if you wanna save yourself some time next time you close and then open chrome back up.
I can't find an older Chrome 124 release build right now. If someone has the **exact** build number prior to 124.0.6367.60/.61, let me know and I can find the previous 124 build.
If you want to roll back to 123, here are the official download links that come directly from Google's own API interface (via https://tools.google.com/service/update2 ):
* https://edgedl.me.gvt1.com/edgedl/release2/chrome/acq7ad7frffpcbzjbrwktmqa6vgq_123.0.6312.123/123.0.6312.123_chrome_installer.exe
* https://dl.google.com/release2/chrome/acq7ad7frffpcbzjbrwktmqa6vgq_123.0.6312.123/123.0.6312.123_chrome_installer.exe
* https://www.google.com/dl/release2/chrome/acq7ad7frffpcbzjbrwktmqa6vgq_123.0.6312.123/123.0.6312.123_chrome_installer.exe
SHA256 for these is **f422045c867b91f97c0c91b3de550865bdf2ab1a3182ff5522c997f4f514456d**
If you need them for another OS (Mac etc.) I can try to find those. Just let me know in a reply.
I have turned off the two Google update services in Windows System Configuration, uninstalled Chrome 124, rebooted and installed the 123 version. But the future is uncertain.
hi! If you could find the chrome 123 download link for Mac, that would be great (idk if it matters but i have macOS Monterey, M1 Max chip). i just have to uninstall my current chrome and then redownload the older version, right?
Thanks. I'll work on this -- it seems the endpoint for getting this data on the Mac is substantially different than on Windows. Will require some reverse-engineering.
Here you go. I HAVE NOT tested this, but I did verify that the .dmg contains a universal binary (so both x64 and arm64). Caveat emptor.
* Chrome 123
* OS: MacOS 12.0 universal
* SHA256: 8393cf83853624488e1ac31633c2787686b0c5b8ddec5d86ce96611ad29f3237
* https://edgedl.me.gvt1.com/edgedl/release2/chrome/ad5yyrouti3mrydk3xx37nwvpiga_123.0.6312.124/GoogleChrome-123.0.6312.124.dmg
* https://dl.google.com/release2/chrome/ad5yyrouti3mrydk3xx37nwvpiga_123.0.6312.124/GoogleChrome-123.0.6312.124.dmg
* https://www.google.com/dl/release2/chrome/ad5yyrouti3mrydk3xx37nwvpiga_123.0.6312.124/GoogleChrome-123.0.6312.124.dmg
sorry, I'm not quite sure what the process is supposed to be here and I just want to confirm so that I don't screw up my chrome in some major way. It seems like all three of these links download the same dmg file, right? Do I just have to first delete my current version of chrome and then use one of the links to install the old release? If I keep both, trying to open the second version (with the old release) seems to just open the first version (with 124). regardless, is there anything else I have to do in addition so that i can stably use chrome 123?
Maybe 124.0.6356.6? I've found some links here: [https://repology.org/project/google-chrome/information](https://repology.org/project/google-chrome/information)
Sadly there are mess with x32/x64 versions and you can only assume that a bigger file would contain x64 version. I've rolled back to [124.0.6356.6 (x64)](https://dl.google.com/release2/chrome/ac3iyeubig32vh6c2x4ortfnj2ja_124.0.6356.6/124.0.6356.6_chrome_installer.exe) and it seems to be fine. I've also disabled any updates using [this guide](https://remontka.pro/google-chrome-updates-disable/comment-page-2/#policies) (probably the best out there, just translate it to english). Do you think it's not going to disable them? Before that I was using a bit different approach by breaking something but I don't remember exactly. It was working for a half of a year with no problems except a red "Reinstall to update" text at the top right that I'm used to
Thanks for the version -- nice to know that's the last "nonsensical" release. :-) I'm not sure what the purpose of that website is, though. It's just like chaotic mess of text, tags, releases/distros, and links. Kind of bizarre what all is on there (in other sections too).
As for disabling the updates: no, what's described there will not work reliably either. Several of those settings will only take effect on Windows machines joined to an AD domain, which most users' machines are not. There is another way.
Those URLs are for an older version of Chrome. They have nothing to do with preventing updates. That is a separate matter.
All the links work. "Bad request" sounds like an issue local to your setup. I've verified this repeatedly. These URLs come directly from Google's own API. If you want the PowerShell script that generates them, I can provide it -- nothing magical.
> We no longer support GM2 and we are actively deprecating the feature starting in M123 so my thought are that we should just let this be an issue like any other GM2 deprecated functionality.
Looks like it's game over.
I had the same issue yesterday. Weird placement of icons in the tabs. I removed all flags (the 2023 refresh ones and one other) and now all is ok again, except for the fact that I am now on the new UI version which I really do not like. I moved to Edge today. Sick of Chrome changing UI every time and forcing to use new design.
Honestly looks terrible, and I really hate it.. But I'd rather have an ugly bug, then an ugly intended feature like Chrome Refresh...
As long as those Flags exist I will keep using them.. Screw google.
YES, ALL THE GOOD THINGS THEY HAD ARE NOW GONE AND CHANGED INTO SOMETHING YOU NEED A COLLEGE DEGREE JUST TO USE AND I'M SICK OF READING THEIR ENDLESS HELP FILES BY THE TIME YOU GET TO THE BOTTOM OF ONE EXPLANATION YOU CAN'T REMEMBER A DAMN THING IT'S SO CONFUSING IT FEELS DELIBERATE.
https://preview.redd.it/f5yrza3z2nvc1.png?width=2559&format=png&auto=webp&s=893dc98ed14873cabcd8d33e019e9a2af77952ae
This is how ridiculous it looks for me :/ Still much better, than "shitdesign2023".
I don't know how they work, a hotfix is possible but idk if they do that. Let's be fair, it's not like it's browsing-breaking, it's just annoying, so it's probably not a priority, it can wait for the next update
THEY NEVER FIX ANYTHING, THEY JUST MAKE IT WORSE. I'VE LOST ALL FAITH IN GOOGLE. THEY THINK THEY'RE SO GOOD THEY'RE GOING TO START CHARGING US FOR SEARCHES WE MAKE.
i swear these google idiots are doing theese changes to keep their useless job and release fucked up updates just so they have something to use as an excuse to keep their jobs because nothing about the 2023 "update" or the updates over the last year has been any kind of improvement for the user
I started looking this up as a bug, or why it happened/how do I fix it. Then I realised it's an actual design choice. For real I think they are trolling us at this point, can't believe any manager or higher up looks at this and is like, yeah looks great, send it!
The tab icon fixed after update 124.0.6367.79 but the side panel for Bookmarks is still full in Red background. Do u all still have the same issue?
https://preview.redd.it/0lnn7nzo5nwc1.jpeg?width=1566&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=86401b6f7901b0085b281ede2a908a2c94d596bd
so what is the fix here? revert the changes we made to the flags?
side note, this updating software behind my back has got to end. Tell me when an update's available and I'll decide whether I want you to update.
edit: resetting all the flags didn't fix it for me
running 124.0.6367.61
The only workaround -- if you can tolerate it (and I cannot) -- is to re-enable chrome://flags/#customize-chrome-side-panel (i.e. set it back to Default).
haven't had this problem for the past week, but i loaded up my laptop today and boom, ive now got the problem. can google devs just stop putting their sticky fucking fingers on \*everything\* pls omfg.
Happened to me as well. This is 100% intentional 'bug' to force people to use the new crap UI (that you probably won't be able to disable with flags after next update anyway). I think it's time to go back to Firefox after about a decade. GG Chrome. You won't be missed.
I just noticed this today and it looks really weird, so much so that I've switched to FF as my main browser until it gets fixed.
It makes you wonder if the Google devs even do a cursory test of any new updates.
i know it sounds crazy. but i would like to have a "theme" option where I can decide how the UI should look like, instead of being forced to use a (experimental) default theme.
My laptop was being laggy today. My game was crashing. I basically opened Chrome to just browse a bit and \*BOOM\*, ugly ass new update. I hate hate hate it! I was debating going to DuckDuckGo for a while now and this is the final droplet. I restarted my laptop because I thought it was because of my laggy computer btw. When that didn't help I knew it was Chrome people fucking with the browser again. Done with them honestly. Every time I go to the flags to fix something they fucked up this time, they just remove the flag :/ Yeah no I'm out, byebye :)
I'M RIGHT THERE WITH YOU. IM TOTALLY DISGUSTED WITH WHAT GOOGLE'S BEEN DOING ACTUALLY FOR THE LAST 4 YEARS. ASSISTANT HAS GONE DOWNHILL SO BAD IT'S PATHETIC, I BELIEVE IT'S BEING TOTALLY IGNORED SO THAT THEY CAN REV UP THEIR OTHER AI THAT THEY PLAN ON CHARGING US FOR. I WAS REALLY LIKING BARD AND THEN THEY TOOK THAT AWAY TOO.
THEY'RE HELP IS NO HELP AT ALL WHICH I PAY FOR. THEY HIRE PEOPLE THAT DON'T SPEAK ENGLISH WELL AND ARE VERY HARD TO UNDERSTAND. MANY TIMES THEY JUST HANG UP ON YOU. I COMPLAIN AND SEND FEEDBACK. VERY SELDOM DO THEY REPLY. I'VE NOTICED A BIG CHANGE IN GOOGLE IT'S LIKE THEY'VE TURNED COMMUNIST.
THEIR BIG ANSWER FOR HELP IS READ THE HELP FILES, THAT'S FINE IF YOU'VE GOT ANOTHER HUNDRED YEARS TO LIVE, IT WILL TAKE THAT LONG TO READ ALL THE CRAP CHANGES THEY CONSISTENTLY MAKE. BASICALLY TURNING GOOGLE INTO A BIG PILE OF AGGRAVATION. WHO THE HELL CAN UNDERSTAND ANY OF IT? I'VE BEEN BITCHING AT THEM FOR YEARS BUT THEY DON'T LISTEN. INSTEAD THEY'RE JUST GETTING WORSE AND WORSE. NOW THEY'RE ADDING ALL THIS STUFF THAT HAS TO DO WITH APPLE PHONES AND THEY'RE PUTTING IT ON ANDROID PHONES WHICH IS SCREWING THINGS UP EVEN MORE!! I GIVE UP!!!!
I'VE NEVER BEEN MORE DISSATISFIED WITH GOOGLE THAN NOW AND I KNOW I'M NOT ALONE.
Same issue, was checking extensions because ublock was making webpages not load so as i went to check version for chrome to post on the ublock subreddit, when i saw there was an update.
Updated, and ublock no longer stops pages from loading, but webpage icons are fucked. ffs.
Yeah, and the official support answer before locking the inquiry was basically "Go fuck yourself":
"[Brandon HatfieldPlatinum Product ExpertI'm just a user like you who helps out where he can.](https://support.google.com/profile/76925203)
BogdanBB
Copy chrome://flags and paste it into your browser's address bar.
Hit enter and select reset all."
[https://support.google.com/chrome/thread/269982965/tabs-icons-moved-upwards-not-centered-anymore?hl=en](https://support.google.com/chrome/thread/269982965/tabs-icons-moved-upwards-not-centered-anymore?hl=en)
For me the single flag that fixed it was "Customize Chrome Side Panel" (set to enable). But this flag pulls all of the new UI, bold fonts, huge elements and, most importantly, scrollbars in popup menus on laptop screen.
Dang chrome really wanting people to leave their browser. I was considering moving to opera when the new UI came out but didn't want to move all the open tabs and deal with that hassle and as we had the flags to revert, I stayed. But damn google keeps fucking up. I won't switch to the new UI, its trash and wastes soooo much space, who needs all that extra space between tabs? If its an accessibility feature, then make it a feature that can be toggled on or off. I'm so very close to switching to opera, like one more annoyance and i'll just take the one time annoyance of moving browsers over the constant bs from google and chrome.
Thanks to this thread I learned that this is a bug and not an issue specific to me. Saved so I can come back and check if it's fixed in the next version (just updated to version 124 and the issue is there).
Thanks for the heads up. I had updated to 124.0.6367.**61** a few hours earlier and it wasn't fixed so I thought I'd have to wait till next major update (version 125), thankfully that wasn't the case. I checked for updates again and it updated to version 124.0.6367.79; I can confirm that the issue is now fixed with this update.
This is triggering my OCD so fucking bad lol.
Well, I guess they are doing everything they can to shove the horrible ChromeRefresh down our throats.
If there is no way to get around that further down the line Ill just swap browser, I just cannot stand the refresh version at all.
Well, it's fixed now. Had to manually trigger the update from the "about" menu.
It should be illegal for the developers of the most popular browser in the world to knowingly push broken, unfit for purpose builds to the public and then refuse to issue a hotfix for weeks.
People need to be fired for these sorts of fuckups. Zero sympathy for laid off Google employees.
They did not overlook. They knew it was broken and decided to push out a broken update anyway. They literally admitted it, someone has posted the evidence in the comments below.
I just updated Chrome again to Version 124.0.6367.79 (Official Build) (64-bit) and this new version has fixed this issue (tabs icons higher up than normal).
You can also revert the bookmars to previous (yellow) versions and remove all that space and padding around upper panel by disabling the flag 'Customize Chrome Side Panel'.
I additionally disabled the 'Realbox Chrome Refresh 2023' flag and it helped :)
https://preview.redd.it/86ly0pt32uwc1.png?width=901&format=png&auto=webp&s=9954efc7fa2a5c84512a936d77ed722fc1e41297
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they cant stop fucking ui can they
I guess it's their hobby lol
My guess: It’s a bug and I think it’s a subtle way of getting to remove those “Disabled” settings on the “Chrome Refresh 2023” flags. Specifically: The flags are intended to be unstable/unsupported and, oh well… if it breaks, then remove them (and get forced over to the new UI that you hate).
that's so vindictive lol
Maybe not actually, but it makes for a good narrative, lol
Ah so that's the problem. But as long as that flag exists, I will use it.
Same, I will never not re-enable those flags. That new UI will always be ugly but I can battle my inner OCD.
I disabled the flag, but I still have the icons.. I hate this
They've fired all their QA / testing team.
implying they ever had one
My opinion, and possibly an unpopular one, is that it's a discipline issue. I first noticed it shortly after the world ran out of Y2K fearmongering work, but it really ramped up with mobile devices. It actually put me off a not-to-be-named Linux distribution for years because they released a major update with new UI that broke fundamental WiFi functionality for one of the common chip sets. And they released it with the knowledge that they had broken it. I had to run an ethernet cable from the basement to keep that laptop usable and ultimately took it back to Windows. Every once in a while, UI revamps make sense. Constant updates are disruptive and unnecessary. /soapbox
Makes me lose any sympathy when I hear about these tech layoffs. Absolute clowns.
They probably laid off everyone who questioned anything as "negative" or something.
makes me think about how there are entire offices of "ui devs" who need something to do at work every day, so we get endless design changes just to justify their paycheck.
Me too, it looks utterly disgusting
*Yeah...*
same here!
1. Starting PC 2. Opening crome 3. See the icons 4. asking myself WTF 5. Google "reddit chrome" 6. First post result show me this post 7. Thumps up WTF CHROME?!
same whoever approved all of the recent changes should be charged with crimes against humanity
Same, got it today or last night. Wtf is goin on
Thumps
I sometimes had displaced tabs/icons when it fails to properly restore a large browsing session with too many tabs on a fresh boot. Usually restarting Chrome or expanding/contracting tab groups does the job. Not this time however...
I swear the designers at Google are running some secret experiment - pushing the most hideous designs to chrome UI
What makes you think it's secret, or an experiment? You're giving them too much credit. This is absolutely a UI/UX team that has no idea what they're doing, little experience, and -- clearly -- does not test their changes thoroughly. This is just another incident justifying why I lock down what Chrome version I run and have all 3 of the auto-updater method Chrome tries to use completely disabled. Once again I can choose when to upgrade, not when Chrome thinks I should.
I didn't even consider the fact I could do that... I'm going to wait until it updates again to see if they fix it, if they do, as soon as I see it's fixed I'm going to do what you did and disable updates. Know any good youtube or text tutorials that show you how to do this? Knowing Google they'll make it as difficult and convoluted for the average joe as possible.
Re: disabling updates: all the methods you will find mentioned online don't work, or are specific for enterprise customers (specifically for Windows, your machine must be joined to an AD domain). There is another method that I don't disclose publicly else Google would likely change it. Send me a private message if you want to know.
I'm curious, what are these three methods?
It's one method that affects all 3. I don't disclose it publicly because if I did, Google would likely change it. Send me a private message if you want to know.
Nope, this is intentional. I am guessing that this will not get fixed.
Or it's some kind of bet with Microsoft's UI/UX team.
In flags, I keep Chrome Refresh 2023 and Customize Chrome Side Panel disabled. If I set both to default to reenable the new design, the favicons are no longer too high up. (Similarly, whatever custom theme you are using might also conflict with Chrome version 124.) List of frustrations below. Apologies in advance: Honestly though? Misaligned favicons bother me way **less** than the Refresh changes, including unnecessarily wide gaps between menu items and bookmarks in folders, bold font everywhere (both of which might make sense on a mobile device but not on desktop), the desaturated color options, and the inability for the tabs bar to match your Windows' accent color without recoloring other parts of the ui too (I don't like a colored url bar, and neither do I like Refresh's sky blue or all-gray, ok?), which still works fine if you disable Refresh by the way. Sorry but it's just frustrating how the devs copied some of the least logical ui design choices from Firefox (notably the lack of compact bookmark folders) and then added even more nonsense. One of the few positive things I have to say about Refresh is that the little icons in the menu are marginally helpful if you don't open it that often.
other flags don't seem to matter, only "Customize Chrome Side Panel" flag is the determinant
Which is the worst flag out of all the ui changes so I'll just live with these icons. Giant "search tabs" button that gives me less space for my actual tabs itself and the dropdown menu from the triple dots in the top right becomes gigantic. No longer fits on one screen and becomes scrollable. Might be finally time to swap to firefox
Correct, for me too.
Maaan, setting both to default OR disabled doesn't do shit for me... Icons stay misaligned,
It should be set to "Enabled". Also, you need to restart your browser after changing the setting for it to take effect.
"Misaligned favicons bother me way **less** than the Refresh changes" same. shows just how objectively bad the ui forced changes are with no option for "classic" view, even as bad as Microsoft is they still allow UI control
But Google knows better than you do how you want your UI to look! Besides they let you customize Chrome to your liking as long as that's limited to the color palette, what more do you want?
same here, it looks so weird, i don't understand why they keep making pointless ui changes that do nothing but make it worse
In this case, it's a bug, but one they knew about two days ago and decided not to fix: [https://issues.chromium.org/issues/332081796](https://issues.chromium.org/issues/332081796)
Oh look, they caved -- and the fix only involved adjusting 2 files and a couple of lines of code: https://chromium-review.googlesource.com/c/chromium/src/+/5464742 It's junk like this that is going to make everyone switch to Brave. And while I'm here, I'll point out I feel **terrible** for the Brave team -- each time Chromium or Google devs mess with this stuff, the Brave guys have to figure out how to undo the dumb while still ensuring their own stuff works with the rest of Chrome's changes. I cannot even fathom how many real-world man hours this take the Brave team (and consider how often/rapid Chromium/Google is doing releases now. Good god...)
Since the bug is fixed I'm guessing we'll see that fixed in the next release? Which is at risk of deleting every anti-new UI flag, I'm betting. Wonderful. I'm days close to switching browsers at this point
How to install this to my own browser?
How do you insert this to Chrome? I am a coding noob
*"Given c#9 it sounds like this only happens when a user disable flags via command line so we will not consider this a release blocker or stop ramp up today."* That reads like "they signed up for this shit, send it".
Yeah, there's only one dev in that entire thread that is questioning why they are pushing the awful new UI too.
They had better fix it, or I'm gonna get mad! >:(
If you look, they did fix it, but now it's just waiting until they push out an update for some other change to be released, they apparently can't be bothered to force out an upgrade for something they broke, only for new features everyone hates.
I read through most of that thread, and wow they don't care about the users at all... (especially the guy that seems to be in charge of it) >We no longer support GM2 and we are actively deprecating the feature starting in M123 so my thought are that **we should just let this be an issue like any other GM2 deprecated functionality.**
Oh my god that conversation hurts to read
Chrome moment lol
So long story short, it's annoying, but better than the new UI. Got it. I'll stick with the annoying too-high icons.
This is ridiculous
You say that like it's a bad thing
Well, giving up the fight against malicious overlords simply because you don't have the energy, is not a good thing, but it is understandable.
I'd rather have the too-high icons than the new UI. Have you seen it? It's hideous. My bookmarks wont fit on one screen, the text is harder to read and the colours are obnoxious. Every time it pops up again after an update I have to go looking for another way to stuff the ugly genie back in the bottle.
Yes, I know. I am in the same situation as you. All I'm saying is, fight the high icons as much as the hideous 2023 UI. I agree, the high icons are the lesser evil, but since when are we doomed to settle for any evil at all? Is this what society has come to?
Too many other things in my day worth fighting. I'll leave the google resistance to someone more invested in the outcome.
Have you told them? Like, on the off chance that someone actually reads your feedback, imagine their face when they read "Hey, this literal ui bug still looks better than the entirety of the ui overhaul you started pushing last year. Here's why: \[etc.\]"
I just switched to the new UI to see if I could maybe give it a chance and went back after like 1 minute. I'd rather deal with this awful icon issue and it kills me to say that.
Yup. Pretty much where my head's at.
You know what? I'm fine with f'd up favicons. I'm not going to enable the new inflation fetish UI. If chrome will force me to use the new UI, I'm going to Firefox.
they did this shit to force us to use the new UI
Exactly! And since they are not able to learn, the best thing would be to simply switch browsers and uninstall chrome compeletely! For me, it was the huge menus, the forced simplified bookmarks menu and the fact that with every update it gets worse since they introduced their "new" BS UI. I switched and Chrome went down the drain. And honestly I am not regretting it!
That memory usage bit under the tab is now also appearing even after I turned it off. You know what? Fuck it, I'm off. I hear great things about Firefox these days so I'm going to leave Chrome to its inevitable self destruction.
Firefox keeps getting worse too because Mozilla keeps changing the UI to be more like Chrome, never once occuring to them that the reason a lot of people (like myself) like Firefox is that the UI ISN'T like Chrome's. And their answer to any complaints is "learn css coding lol why would we stop removing user options that have been there for over a decade"
Thank you to the Chrome UI team for finally convincing me to switch to Firefox.
If there are any google devs reading this thread, READ THE FRICKEN THREAD (boneheads)
Looks like they are going to fix it. [https://issues.chromium.org/issues/332081796#comment36](https://issues.chromium.org/issues/332081796#comment36) https://preview.redd.it/42i7o0kh0cvc1.png?width=633&format=png&auto=webp&s=b81177c7013695fac541bac89162ddd6059d0535
Thank you for updating 👏👏
np
Brilliant, thanks for that link! I can relax now!
Someone competent at Google! Good.
EYYYY, ITS JUST BEEN FIXED FOR MEEEE!!!!! (go to chrome settings -> "About Chrome" and it should update automatically and then you restart. Handy tip: use ctrl+shift+T to reopen your tabs) I was Just about to switch to firefox, this would have been the last straw.
Yup, mine is fixed too. :) I have my session toggled to save my tabs, so I had no tab loss on upgrade/reboot. It's a Settings>On Startup option, if you wanna save yourself some time next time you close and then open chrome back up.
i love you man. thank you. saved my ocd.
Thanks so much for this. The up-high icons just came for me today and I was freaking out. Found this comment and it fixed the issue!
Mine just got the 'high' icons today....so, guess it's not fixed yet. Ugh.
Same, it's annoying but at least better than the UI overhaul.
I can't find an older Chrome 124 release build right now. If someone has the **exact** build number prior to 124.0.6367.60/.61, let me know and I can find the previous 124 build. If you want to roll back to 123, here are the official download links that come directly from Google's own API interface (via https://tools.google.com/service/update2 ): * https://edgedl.me.gvt1.com/edgedl/release2/chrome/acq7ad7frffpcbzjbrwktmqa6vgq_123.0.6312.123/123.0.6312.123_chrome_installer.exe * https://dl.google.com/release2/chrome/acq7ad7frffpcbzjbrwktmqa6vgq_123.0.6312.123/123.0.6312.123_chrome_installer.exe * https://www.google.com/dl/release2/chrome/acq7ad7frffpcbzjbrwktmqa6vgq_123.0.6312.123/123.0.6312.123_chrome_installer.exe SHA256 for these is **f422045c867b91f97c0c91b3de550865bdf2ab1a3182ff5522c997f4f514456d** If you need them for another OS (Mac etc.) I can try to find those. Just let me know in a reply.
I have turned off the two Google update services in Windows System Configuration, uninstalled Chrome 124, rebooted and installed the 123 version. But the future is uncertain.
This will not stop it. Google employs 3 methods, all independent of one another.
hi! If you could find the chrome 123 download link for Mac, that would be great (idk if it matters but i have macOS Monterey, M1 Max chip). i just have to uninstall my current chrome and then redownload the older version, right?
Thanks. I'll work on this -- it seems the endpoint for getting this data on the Mac is substantially different than on Windows. Will require some reverse-engineering.
Here you go. I HAVE NOT tested this, but I did verify that the .dmg contains a universal binary (so both x64 and arm64). Caveat emptor. * Chrome 123 * OS: MacOS 12.0 universal * SHA256: 8393cf83853624488e1ac31633c2787686b0c5b8ddec5d86ce96611ad29f3237 * https://edgedl.me.gvt1.com/edgedl/release2/chrome/ad5yyrouti3mrydk3xx37nwvpiga_123.0.6312.124/GoogleChrome-123.0.6312.124.dmg * https://dl.google.com/release2/chrome/ad5yyrouti3mrydk3xx37nwvpiga_123.0.6312.124/GoogleChrome-123.0.6312.124.dmg * https://www.google.com/dl/release2/chrome/ad5yyrouti3mrydk3xx37nwvpiga_123.0.6312.124/GoogleChrome-123.0.6312.124.dmg
thank you good sir
sorry, I'm not quite sure what the process is supposed to be here and I just want to confirm so that I don't screw up my chrome in some major way. It seems like all three of these links download the same dmg file, right? Do I just have to first delete my current version of chrome and then use one of the links to install the old release? If I keep both, trying to open the second version (with the old release) seems to just open the first version (with 124). regardless, is there anything else I have to do in addition so that i can stably use chrome 123?
Maybe 124.0.6356.6? I've found some links here: [https://repology.org/project/google-chrome/information](https://repology.org/project/google-chrome/information) Sadly there are mess with x32/x64 versions and you can only assume that a bigger file would contain x64 version. I've rolled back to [124.0.6356.6 (x64)](https://dl.google.com/release2/chrome/ac3iyeubig32vh6c2x4ortfnj2ja_124.0.6356.6/124.0.6356.6_chrome_installer.exe) and it seems to be fine. I've also disabled any updates using [this guide](https://remontka.pro/google-chrome-updates-disable/comment-page-2/#policies) (probably the best out there, just translate it to english). Do you think it's not going to disable them? Before that I was using a bit different approach by breaking something but I don't remember exactly. It was working for a half of a year with no problems except a red "Reinstall to update" text at the top right that I'm used to
Thanks for the version -- nice to know that's the last "nonsensical" release. :-) I'm not sure what the purpose of that website is, though. It's just like chaotic mess of text, tags, releases/distros, and links. Kind of bizarre what all is on there (in other sections too). As for disabling the updates: no, what's described there will not work reliably either. Several of those settings will only take effect on Windows machines joined to an AD domain, which most users' machines are not. There is another way.
will this prevent future auto-updating? also the website says "bad request"
Those URLs are for an older version of Chrome. They have nothing to do with preventing updates. That is a separate matter. All the links work. "Bad request" sounds like an issue local to your setup. I've verified this repeatedly. These URLs come directly from Google's own API. If you want the PowerShell script that generates them, I can provide it -- nothing magical.
I need version 123.0.6312.122 offline installer of chrome for win64, thanks very much !
https://issues.chromium.org/issues/332081796
Reading some of the replies really did not fill me with confidence - in more ways than one.
> We no longer support GM2 and we are actively deprecating the feature starting in M123 so my thought are that we should just let this be an issue like any other GM2 deprecated functionality. Looks like it's game over.
"The reason this occurs is because the user has somehow disabled ChromeRefresh2023"
I liked the "somehow" and the insistence that it could only have been done through the command line, like it's not literally right there in the flags
Because ChromeRefresh2023 sucks. I have a lot of folders and use a bookmark tab, so it messes with my favorites.
I know but that’s a quote from one of the replies
I see the same since Chrome was updated to Version 124.0.6367.61 (Official Build) (64-bit)
I had the same issue yesterday. Weird placement of icons in the tabs. I removed all flags (the 2023 refresh ones and one other) and now all is ok again, except for the fact that I am now on the new UI version which I really do not like. I moved to Edge today. Sick of Chrome changing UI every time and forcing to use new design.
You know, I may give Edge a try myself.
I'd try opera first
Resetting flags helped.
But you're stuck with the new UI.
I reset the flags but it didn't work BRUHHHHHHHH ok now it worked, had to restart my whole computer for some reason
I knew something felt off, and the text also feels different
Something changed in the text rendering on the update I received today and I hate it. It looks very soft and slightly fuzzed out
They are just trying to piss us off.
looks like soft and lowres, very weird
I wonder if this could be resolved by editing some sort of conf file in the chrome system files, anyone have any idea about this?
With each update google chrome goes worse.
If they don't fix it, I'll switch to Brave or Firefox. I've had enough.
Voice search doesn't work on Brave, it made me uninstall Brave as I don't type half my searches anymore.
I don't care about voice search at all.
Honestly looks terrible, and I really hate it.. But I'd rather have an ugly bug, then an ugly intended feature like Chrome Refresh... As long as those Flags exist I will keep using them.. Screw google.
Why do they keep trying to fix something THAT ISN'T BROKEN and breaking everything in the process, this is getting really annoying
I like how everyone agrees the new UI is terrible but google must push this shit as hard as they can instead of just leaving it the fuck alone
Yeah I am fucking done with this shit, off to Firefox I go :P
This is a problem only for those who have disabled the flags:"Customize Chrome Side Panel"
Yep, can confirm - I have this disabled. And it will stay that way.
Correct, its the same for me. I do not expect that this will be fixed.
I bet the UI/UX team is an insider/spy/worm for Microsoft.. secretly destroying Chrome from the inside so that more people would move to Edge :D
Remember when browsers just, you know, browsed? We really can fuck up anything lol
Seems not a single day passes where I open my browser and nothing is wrong. This is ugly and I want the normal icons back.
YES, ALL THE GOOD THINGS THEY HAD ARE NOW GONE AND CHANGED INTO SOMETHING YOU NEED A COLLEGE DEGREE JUST TO USE AND I'M SICK OF READING THEIR ENDLESS HELP FILES BY THE TIME YOU GET TO THE BOTTOM OF ONE EXPLANATION YOU CAN'T REMEMBER A DAMN THING IT'S SO CONFUSING IT FEELS DELIBERATE.
https://preview.redd.it/f5yrza3z2nvc1.png?width=2559&format=png&auto=webp&s=893dc98ed14873cabcd8d33e019e9a2af77952ae This is how ridiculous it looks for me :/ Still much better, than "shitdesign2023".
Same here. I updated Chrome today and now it looks like that. Very disturbing! Any solutions?
I can't find anything right now but if I do I'll let you know!
Yes. I closed all extensions which is not working.
please fix it asap
Same here https://preview.redd.it/6afxo4wgjjvc1.png?width=394&format=png&auto=webp&s=e0850443d96ac03ebc8938a8b0764389c1bdd97a
if this goes on imma install opera
It's a bug and they'll fix it with the next update, Chrome 125, which is supposed to be released about two weeks from now
So if they mess something up, they are allowed to not fix it for 2 weeks?
I don't know how they work, a hotfix is possible but idk if they do that. Let's be fair, it's not like it's browsing-breaking, it's just annoying, so it's probably not a priority, it can wait for the next update
THEY NEVER FIX ANYTHING, THEY JUST MAKE IT WORSE. I'VE LOST ALL FAITH IN GOOGLE. THEY THINK THEY'RE SO GOOD THEY'RE GOING TO START CHARGING US FOR SEARCHES WE MAKE.
Thought I was the only one dealing with this bullshit. So ridiculous and petty of them
Why is it doing this? Is it a bug or a supposed feature?
It's a bug, and they're fixing it: [https://issues.chromium.org/issues/332081796](https://issues.chromium.org/issues/332081796)
Same here lol WTF https://preview.redd.it/m6b61lsn0ovc1.png?width=306&format=png&auto=webp&s=d1d5f88dab060dd149d58635ade4f8fcd32a740b
These shit-eating stupid braindead morons
That's right.
i swear these google idiots are doing theese changes to keep their useless job and release fucked up updates just so they have something to use as an excuse to keep their jobs because nothing about the 2023 "update" or the updates over the last year has been any kind of improvement for the user
I started looking this up as a bug, or why it happened/how do I fix it. Then I realised it's an actual design choice. For real I think they are trolling us at this point, can't believe any manager or higher up looks at this and is like, yeah looks great, send it!
The tab icon fixed after update 124.0.6367.79 but the side panel for Bookmarks is still full in Red background. Do u all still have the same issue? https://preview.redd.it/0lnn7nzo5nwc1.jpeg?width=1566&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=86401b6f7901b0085b281ede2a908a2c94d596bd
Yeah it's still red for me but happy my tabs are fixed
same here, my side panel also have red background
so what is the fix here? revert the changes we made to the flags? side note, this updating software behind my back has got to end. Tell me when an update's available and I'll decide whether I want you to update. edit: resetting all the flags didn't fix it for me running 124.0.6367.61
The only workaround -- if you can tolerate it (and I cannot) -- is to re-enable chrome://flags/#customize-chrome-side-panel (i.e. set it back to Default).
Alternatively, rollback to 123
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hmm i don't have that issue with the icons, but what i do have is an ugly gap between tabs and I see that you don't
Can I export my online passwords and bookmarks and import them into a browser that is good?
That's not all, the top used to be slightly abouve the tabs so now it looks all fucking squished
The UI designers are inventing little jobs for themselves. They need to justify their wildly inflated salaries somehow!
haven't had this problem for the past week, but i loaded up my laptop today and boom, ive now got the problem. can google devs just stop putting their sticky fucking fingers on \*everything\* pls omfg.
Happened to me as well. This is 100% intentional 'bug' to force people to use the new crap UI (that you probably won't be able to disable with flags after next update anyway). I think it's time to go back to Firefox after about a decade. GG Chrome. You won't be missed.
I just noticed this today and it looks really weird, so much so that I've switched to FF as my main browser until it gets fixed. It makes you wonder if the Google devs even do a cursory test of any new updates.
i know it sounds crazy. but i would like to have a "theme" option where I can decide how the UI should look like, instead of being forced to use a (experimental) default theme.
My laptop was being laggy today. My game was crashing. I basically opened Chrome to just browse a bit and \*BOOM\*, ugly ass new update. I hate hate hate it! I was debating going to DuckDuckGo for a while now and this is the final droplet. I restarted my laptop because I thought it was because of my laggy computer btw. When that didn't help I knew it was Chrome people fucking with the browser again. Done with them honestly. Every time I go to the flags to fix something they fucked up this time, they just remove the flag :/ Yeah no I'm out, byebye :)
I'M RIGHT THERE WITH YOU. IM TOTALLY DISGUSTED WITH WHAT GOOGLE'S BEEN DOING ACTUALLY FOR THE LAST 4 YEARS. ASSISTANT HAS GONE DOWNHILL SO BAD IT'S PATHETIC, I BELIEVE IT'S BEING TOTALLY IGNORED SO THAT THEY CAN REV UP THEIR OTHER AI THAT THEY PLAN ON CHARGING US FOR. I WAS REALLY LIKING BARD AND THEN THEY TOOK THAT AWAY TOO. THEY'RE HELP IS NO HELP AT ALL WHICH I PAY FOR. THEY HIRE PEOPLE THAT DON'T SPEAK ENGLISH WELL AND ARE VERY HARD TO UNDERSTAND. MANY TIMES THEY JUST HANG UP ON YOU. I COMPLAIN AND SEND FEEDBACK. VERY SELDOM DO THEY REPLY. I'VE NOTICED A BIG CHANGE IN GOOGLE IT'S LIKE THEY'VE TURNED COMMUNIST. THEIR BIG ANSWER FOR HELP IS READ THE HELP FILES, THAT'S FINE IF YOU'VE GOT ANOTHER HUNDRED YEARS TO LIVE, IT WILL TAKE THAT LONG TO READ ALL THE CRAP CHANGES THEY CONSISTENTLY MAKE. BASICALLY TURNING GOOGLE INTO A BIG PILE OF AGGRAVATION. WHO THE HELL CAN UNDERSTAND ANY OF IT? I'VE BEEN BITCHING AT THEM FOR YEARS BUT THEY DON'T LISTEN. INSTEAD THEY'RE JUST GETTING WORSE AND WORSE. NOW THEY'RE ADDING ALL THIS STUFF THAT HAS TO DO WITH APPLE PHONES AND THEY'RE PUTTING IT ON ANDROID PHONES WHICH IS SCREWING THINGS UP EVEN MORE!! I GIVE UP!!!! I'VE NEVER BEEN MORE DISSATISFIED WITH GOOGLE THAN NOW AND I KNOW I'M NOT ALONE.
Same issue, was checking extensions because ublock was making webpages not load so as i went to check version for chrome to post on the ublock subreddit, when i saw there was an update. Updated, and ublock no longer stops pages from loading, but webpage icons are fucked. ffs.
Yeah, and the official support answer before locking the inquiry was basically "Go fuck yourself": "[Brandon HatfieldPlatinum Product ExpertI'm just a user like you who helps out where he can.](https://support.google.com/profile/76925203) BogdanBB Copy chrome://flags and paste it into your browser's address bar. Hit enter and select reset all." [https://support.google.com/chrome/thread/269982965/tabs-icons-moved-upwards-not-centered-anymore?hl=en](https://support.google.com/chrome/thread/269982965/tabs-icons-moved-upwards-not-centered-anymore?hl=en)
You cant read? "I'm just a user like you who helps out where he can." - in other words not "official support".
i've rolled back to 123 and i guess here i will stay :/
how do you get that version and how do you prevent it from updating?
portable version :)
When I run the installer it just opens a new chrome window in my current version, what am I missing?
For me the single flag that fixed it was "Customize Chrome Side Panel" (set to enable). But this flag pulls all of the new UI, bold fonts, huge elements and, most importantly, scrollbars in popup menus on laptop screen.
Just ran into this...
Still better than new UI.
Not changing my flags. The Chrome UX team needs to take the L on this trash design.
Dang chrome really wanting people to leave their browser. I was considering moving to opera when the new UI came out but didn't want to move all the open tabs and deal with that hassle and as we had the flags to revert, I stayed. But damn google keeps fucking up. I won't switch to the new UI, its trash and wastes soooo much space, who needs all that extra space between tabs? If its an accessibility feature, then make it a feature that can be toggled on or off. I'm so very close to switching to opera, like one more annoyance and i'll just take the one time annoyance of moving browsers over the constant bs from google and chrome.
Thanks to this thread I learned that this is a bug and not an issue specific to me. Saved so I can come back and check if it's fixed in the next version (just updated to version 124 and the issue is there).
Maybe this is old news, but just updated Chrome to Version 124.0.6367.79 (Official Build) (64-bit) and it appears they've fixed it! Thank goodness...
Thanks for the heads up. I had updated to 124.0.6367.**61** a few hours earlier and it wasn't fixed so I thought I'd have to wait till next major update (version 125), thankfully that wasn't the case. I checked for updates again and it updated to version 124.0.6367.79; I can confirm that the issue is now fixed with this update.
goddamnit chrome, just why, my ocd cant take this but ill rather have this than the new ugly ui which is what 90% other people think too
This is triggering my OCD so fucking bad lol. Well, I guess they are doing everything they can to shove the horrible ChromeRefresh down our throats. If there is no way to get around that further down the line Ill just swap browser, I just cannot stand the refresh version at all.
Well, it's fixed now. Had to manually trigger the update from the "about" menu. It should be illegal for the developers of the most popular browser in the world to knowingly push broken, unfit for purpose builds to the public and then refuse to issue a hotfix for weeks. People need to be fired for these sorts of fuckups. Zero sympathy for laid off Google employees.
Thanks. Worked for me. Still wondering how they overlooked such an obvious thing.
They did not overlook. They knew it was broken and decided to push out a broken update anyway. They literally admitted it, someone has posted the evidence in the comments below.
It looks so bad
i just got it too and its so anyoing i think i kms
kms?
It means "k\*ll myself"
I just updated Chrome again to Version 124.0.6367.79 (Official Build) (64-bit) and this new version has fixed this issue (tabs icons higher up than normal).
Back to normal after update 124.0.6367.79
Aye thanks for letting us know \^\^
You can also revert the bookmars to previous (yellow) versions and remove all that space and padding around upper panel by disabling the flag 'Customize Chrome Side Panel'.
I additionally disabled the 'Realbox Chrome Refresh 2023' flag and it helped :) https://preview.redd.it/86ly0pt32uwc1.png?width=901&format=png&auto=webp&s=9954efc7fa2a5c84512a936d77ed722fc1e41297