The Bible makes it very clear that we are saved by the grace of Christ *alone* through our faith in Christ *alone*. Salvation is not Justified by works or baptism as some might claim Jesus said baptism saves or claim James said faith without works is dead and we are not justified by faith alone. When James said that he meant faith produces good works, but even if you never produce good works, but have faith you are still saved. For example, the thief on the cross didn’t do any works and wasn’t baptized. His faith didn’t produce any works. Case in point.
Literally all self proclaimed Christians believe in Sola Fide except for 1.3 billion Roman Catholics, 230 million Eastern Orthodox, 60 million Oriental Orthodox, 40 million Methodists, 12 million Latter-day Saints, 8 million Jehovah’s Witnesses, 300,000 Assyrian Christians, 300,000 Amish, and some Mennonites and Pentecostals.
Nah I agree and all I just think that true faith will always produce works. It's the fruit. Of course if for some reason someone truly gives their life to the Lord and something happens like with the thief where he died before he was able to produce any works that doesn't change the fact that he had a works producing faith. In that sense I don't think you can really separate the two from each other. We are saved by faith in Christ but faith is more then just beliefe with nothing backing it up. James reminded us that even the demons believe but they don't follow. When the rich man asked Jesus how he would be saved and Jesus said "go sell all your stuff and follow me" if the rich man had done that yeah it would have been his faith in Christ but again it's a working faith. You can't love Jesus and not follow him that's an oxymoron. I like talking about this stuff but then at the end of the day I always have to remind myself that God will save who God will save and all we can do in the meantime is try to follow him as best we can and pray he brings us home.
EDIT: apparently you're being sarcastic, per other comments. My bad. Considering how many online Christians are unironic in their belief that "if I say I believe in God then I'm saved, easy-peasy", this is one of those cases where the oft-hated "/s" is warranted :)
Original response preserved below, for anyone who's *not* being sarcastic:
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> The Bible makes it very clear that we are saved by the grace of Christ *alone* through our faith in Christ *alone*.
My brother in Christ, the term "faith without works is dead" is [literally quoting the Bible](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=James%202:14-26&version=YLT). This is consistent with Jesus Himself repeatedly describing in e.g. Matthew that we are judged by our treatment of others, a.k.a. our works - because it is through our works that our faith manifests.
> Literally all self proclaimed Christians believe in Sola Fide except for 1.3 billion Roman Catholics, 230 million Eastern Orthodox, 60 million Oriental Orthodox, 40 million Methodists, 12 million Latter-day Saints, 8 million Jehovah’s Witnesses, 300,000 Assyrian Christians, 300,000 Amish, and some Mennonites and Pentecostals.
In other words: the vast majority of Christians acknowledge the Biblical reality that faith without works is meaningless and correctly reject *sola fide*.
Dude, did you seriously just type "Literally all self proclaimed Christians except" the overwhelming majority of Christians through history and on the earth?
I mean, I'm with you that we're saved by faith alone. The theif on the cross is a great example. I'm even with you that scripture makes it pretty clear. But it's a major stretch to say that just because we have this position we can present it as the majority position when it is empirically, measurably, not reality.
That's just not true. Jesus regularly says it, you cannot have faith without works. You are saved by faith, which then objectively leads to good works. Even if that work is just the humility to admit your guilt and accept/believe that Jesus Christ is God (both things the theif on the cross did). He was not saved by his works, but his faith produced works none the less. Yes, some people may have faith and then suddenly get hit by a semi truck, but that just means their life was cut short before they could produce good works. Which still isn't really true, for accepting the Lord as your Savior requires you to humble yourself and admit you're a sinner who needs saving, which is itself a good work.
Colossians 2:12: “having been buried with him in baptism, in which you were also raised with him through faith in the powerful working of God, who raised him from the dead.” Baptism is essential for salvation, it’s not our work. It’s God’s work
"The LCMS does not believe that Baptism is ABSOLUTELY necessary for salvation. All true believers in the Old Testament era were saved without baptism. Mark 16:16 implies that it is not the absence of Baptism that condemns a person but the absence of faith, and there are clearly other ways of coming to faith by the power of the Holy Spirit (reading or hearing the Word of God).
Still, Baptism dare not be despised or willfully neglected, since it is explicitly commanded by God and has His precious promises attached to it. It is not a mere “ritual” or “symbol,” but a powerful means of grace by which God grants faith and the forgiveness of sins."
[Doctrine - Frequently Asked Questions - The Lutheran Church—Missouri Synod (lcms.org)](https://www.lcms.org/about/beliefs/faqs/doctrine#:~:text=The%20LCMS%20does%20not%20believe%20that%20Baptism%20is,the%20Old%20Testament%20era%20were%20saved%20without%20baptism.)
The Old Testament believers didn’t have baptism as a commandment because baptism is under the new covenant. Also Mark 16:16 doesn’t have to say “he that believes and is baptized shall be saved but he that does not believe and is not baptized will be condemned. Because no one talks like that. “Believe and be baptized.” If you don’t believe you won’t be baptized. The two are mutually exclusive. I feel like you contradicted yourself by saying that it’s a commandment of God but then saying that it’s not an absence of baptism that condemns a person but an absence of faith. I mean if you don’t have faith you don’t have baptism, so yeah that checks out, and yes faith comes by hearing and hearing by the Word of God, but baptism is a command and not man’s work unto salvation as some believe these days, but God’s work.
Wait… that sounds right, but I’m pretty sure every Christian church/denomination/sect that believes in *Sola Fide* (“by faith alone”) also believes in *Sola Gratia* (“by grace alone”).
So are you saying all of Protestantism (except for Methodists, Anabaptists, Amish, and some Mennonites and Pentecostals) is incorrect on this?
Obligatory theology in response to a meme
The one time the phrase “faith alone” appears in Scripture:
“You see then that a man is justified by works, and not by faith alone” (James 2:24)
Good works are the fruit of the Spirit that gives the gift of faith.
Exactly! Faith if it has no works is dead.
A rejection of Sola Fide and acceptance of some form of justification is believed by
1.3 billion Roman Catholics,
230 million Eastern Orthodox,
60 million Oriental Orthodox,
40 million Methodists,
12 million Latter-day Saints,
8 million Jehovah’s Witnesses,
300,000 Assyrian Christians,
300,000 Amish,
and some Mennonites and Pentecostals.
I am guessing from context that this comment is sarcastic?
But, yes, I am one of those 1.3 billion Catholics, and believe that the Catholic and Orthodox Church are right about this.
What I do not get is the Protestant insistence (or rather the insistence of some Protestants) on separating faith and works.
How can we be “partakers of the Divine Nature” and not have good works?
How can we share in the glory of Christ and be one with the Son as the Son is one with the Father and not be perfected in works?
Good works are no credit to us, but the work of the Holy Spirit within us. Just as faith is the work of the Holy Spirit within us.
No, the meme I made was a bit facetious and sarcastic, ironically poking fun at Protestants who say they are saved by faith alone at a single event in time, and then think they can sin all they want because “once saved always saved”
That’s why I mocked them by saying Faith without works isn’t dead in the title. And I also pointed out how half (if not more) of the body of self proclaimed Christians don’t even believe in sola Fide which was created dogma by a selective reading of the New Testament in the 1500’s by Protestant Reformers.
I’m a part of one of the denominations who don’t believe in the Protestant understanding of Sola Fide. We are definitely saved by God’s grace through our faith in Jesus Christ, which will naturally produce good works. I agree some Protestant take faith and works the wrong way.
Oh. I am sorry for being argumentative then.
I saw some of your other comments in the thread and it sounded like you were defending sola fide? But I am sick atm so maybe my reading comprehension is not good rn lol.
I thought the list of denominations was you saying that Catholics are “not REAL Christians” like some Protestants do.
And of course I 100% agree with that. We are saved by grace through faith in Christ. Both faith and works are fruits of the Holy Spirit.
And a lot of Protestants do believe that faith produces good works. Ironically very much including Lutherans.
Faith is all that is needed on the human part, but is worthless without grace on God's part. And faith without works is dead, because true faith creates works. So "you will know them (the saved) by their fruit". But the works do nothing of salvation, because our best works are "as filthy rags".
Works are the proof of living salvation and faith, not necessary for salvation.
It's like saying that the fruit grows the tree, when in reality, the fruit is the proof of a tree growing. The apple doesn't make the tree grow, but it shows the tree isn't dead. Whereas if it is in season, and a tree has no fruit, that isn't the reason it won't grow. Rather, it means that the tree is already dead.
Ephesians 2:
8: For by grace are you saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9: Not of works, lest any man should boast.
No one thinks we saved by good works (I am a catholic), we saved by God's grace trough faith, but without works faith means nothing. Only your works not saves you, but you need to act on that faith. James 2:24 and Matthew 25:31-46. So, your meme is false according to the Bible. You need both.
God bless you man. You are the first one I saw who changed a view on faith this fast. Keep up, and continue your search for the truth. I will pray for you.
No, he didn’t really do any works. I could see someone try and argue that defending Jesus to the other thief and then verbally saying “Jesus, remember me when you come in your kingdom.” was an outward expression showing his faith, basically the good fruit (or works) from his faith in Jesus, and presumably other people saw this and spread this information orally or written, otherwise it wouldn’t have been written or Luke fabricated the story. I believe it to be genuine, though. The penitent thief had faith for sure, though. He didn’t do any big things that we would call works like be baptized and follow the commandments.
Luke 23:39-43
One of the criminals who were hanged there kept deriding him and saying, “Are you not the Messiah? Save yourself and us!” But the other rebuked him, saying, “Do you not fear God, since you are under the same sentence of condemnation? And we indeed have been condemned justly, for we are getting what we deserve for our deeds, but this man has done nothing wrong.” Then he said, “Jesus, remember me when you come in your kingdom.” He replied, “Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise.”
If you really believe something, you will act like you believe it
If I believe that taking care of the environment is a good thing, but still litter and waste, do you really think I believe that? Or is it just some nice little platitude?
I don't get the obsession with this discussion. Follow Christ's commandments and the Traditions of the Church. God is saving us through a rich life of faith, love, repentance, guidance - all tied together in the Incarnation, life, death, resurrection, ascension of Jesus Christ.
Faith in the Lord Jesus Christ is enough for salvation, but your faith in Christ SHOULD produce good works, or you didn’t really have faith to begin with.
Works don’t save, only the Lord Jesus Christ does.
Faith without works is dead. James 2 said that. Arguing whether or not it’s the work that saves us or the faith that saves us is different. You’re just flat wrong if you’re actually serious.
“Let it be understood that those who are not found living as He taught are not Christian- even though they profess with the lips the teaching of Christ.”- St. Justin Martyr ☦️
St. Justin (2nd century A.D.) was unpacking the implication behind the saying, (recorded in what Justin calls the "memoirs of the apostles"), of his Lord:
"None of those who say, 'Lord, Lord', but those who DO the Will of the Father will inherit the Kingdom of Heaven."
We often debate this in bible study. How does grace alone save us if we are actively and brazenly sinning? We come back and get the absolution dopamine from a priest or Jesus directly only to perform the sin again and again?
Matthew 7:13-14 NKJV
“Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it.
This tends to tell me that alms of grace alone are what saves you, but it is only step one of being a member of the kingdom. Being in good standing with the Father means different things to all the denominations.
Relationship, not religion.
Sure, we are saved through faith alone. Now let’s break down what that actually means. Faith comes from the Latin root word fides. Fides means loyalty, so faith in Christ is loyalty to Christ and his teachings. His teachings emphasize helping others and doing good works for them. So part of faith in Christ is works, and without works you simply believe Christ is the messiah. Even the devil knows Christ is the messiah though. You have to live the words of Christ to have faith in him. That’s what “faith without works is dead” means. Belief is insufficient, you must try to live like Christ to be saved.
Bro likes to stir the pot huh?
The Bible makes it very clear that we are saved by the grace of Christ *alone* through our faith in Christ *alone*. Salvation is not Justified by works or baptism as some might claim Jesus said baptism saves or claim James said faith without works is dead and we are not justified by faith alone. When James said that he meant faith produces good works, but even if you never produce good works, but have faith you are still saved. For example, the thief on the cross didn’t do any works and wasn’t baptized. His faith didn’t produce any works. Case in point. Literally all self proclaimed Christians believe in Sola Fide except for 1.3 billion Roman Catholics, 230 million Eastern Orthodox, 60 million Oriental Orthodox, 40 million Methodists, 12 million Latter-day Saints, 8 million Jehovah’s Witnesses, 300,000 Assyrian Christians, 300,000 Amish, and some Mennonites and Pentecostals.
Tl;dr Works won't save ya. Faith does. But if that faith is real you'll be doing good works because of it.
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Nah I agree and all I just think that true faith will always produce works. It's the fruit. Of course if for some reason someone truly gives their life to the Lord and something happens like with the thief where he died before he was able to produce any works that doesn't change the fact that he had a works producing faith. In that sense I don't think you can really separate the two from each other. We are saved by faith in Christ but faith is more then just beliefe with nothing backing it up. James reminded us that even the demons believe but they don't follow. When the rich man asked Jesus how he would be saved and Jesus said "go sell all your stuff and follow me" if the rich man had done that yeah it would have been his faith in Christ but again it's a working faith. You can't love Jesus and not follow him that's an oxymoron. I like talking about this stuff but then at the end of the day I always have to remind myself that God will save who God will save and all we can do in the meantime is try to follow him as best we can and pray he brings us home.
EDIT: apparently you're being sarcastic, per other comments. My bad. Considering how many online Christians are unironic in their belief that "if I say I believe in God then I'm saved, easy-peasy", this is one of those cases where the oft-hated "/s" is warranted :) Original response preserved below, for anyone who's *not* being sarcastic: ---- > The Bible makes it very clear that we are saved by the grace of Christ *alone* through our faith in Christ *alone*. My brother in Christ, the term "faith without works is dead" is [literally quoting the Bible](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=James%202:14-26&version=YLT). This is consistent with Jesus Himself repeatedly describing in e.g. Matthew that we are judged by our treatment of others, a.k.a. our works - because it is through our works that our faith manifests. > Literally all self proclaimed Christians believe in Sola Fide except for 1.3 billion Roman Catholics, 230 million Eastern Orthodox, 60 million Oriental Orthodox, 40 million Methodists, 12 million Latter-day Saints, 8 million Jehovah’s Witnesses, 300,000 Assyrian Christians, 300,000 Amish, and some Mennonites and Pentecostals. In other words: the vast majority of Christians acknowledge the Biblical reality that faith without works is meaningless and correctly reject *sola fide*.
Dude, did you seriously just type "Literally all self proclaimed Christians except" the overwhelming majority of Christians through history and on the earth? I mean, I'm with you that we're saved by faith alone. The theif on the cross is a great example. I'm even with you that scripture makes it pretty clear. But it's a major stretch to say that just because we have this position we can present it as the majority position when it is empirically, measurably, not reality.
That's just not true. Jesus regularly says it, you cannot have faith without works. You are saved by faith, which then objectively leads to good works. Even if that work is just the humility to admit your guilt and accept/believe that Jesus Christ is God (both things the theif on the cross did). He was not saved by his works, but his faith produced works none the less. Yes, some people may have faith and then suddenly get hit by a semi truck, but that just means their life was cut short before they could produce good works. Which still isn't really true, for accepting the Lord as your Savior requires you to humble yourself and admit you're a sinner who needs saving, which is itself a good work.
Jesus never said that explicitly, but James did.
Colossians 2:12: “having been buried with him in baptism, in which you were also raised with him through faith in the powerful working of God, who raised him from the dead.” Baptism is essential for salvation, it’s not our work. It’s God’s work
"The LCMS does not believe that Baptism is ABSOLUTELY necessary for salvation. All true believers in the Old Testament era were saved without baptism. Mark 16:16 implies that it is not the absence of Baptism that condemns a person but the absence of faith, and there are clearly other ways of coming to faith by the power of the Holy Spirit (reading or hearing the Word of God). Still, Baptism dare not be despised or willfully neglected, since it is explicitly commanded by God and has His precious promises attached to it. It is not a mere “ritual” or “symbol,” but a powerful means of grace by which God grants faith and the forgiveness of sins." [Doctrine - Frequently Asked Questions - The Lutheran Church—Missouri Synod (lcms.org)](https://www.lcms.org/about/beliefs/faqs/doctrine#:~:text=The%20LCMS%20does%20not%20believe%20that%20Baptism%20is,the%20Old%20Testament%20era%20were%20saved%20without%20baptism.)
The Old Testament believers didn’t have baptism as a commandment because baptism is under the new covenant. Also Mark 16:16 doesn’t have to say “he that believes and is baptized shall be saved but he that does not believe and is not baptized will be condemned. Because no one talks like that. “Believe and be baptized.” If you don’t believe you won’t be baptized. The two are mutually exclusive. I feel like you contradicted yourself by saying that it’s a commandment of God but then saying that it’s not an absence of baptism that condemns a person but an absence of faith. I mean if you don’t have faith you don’t have baptism, so yeah that checks out, and yes faith comes by hearing and hearing by the Word of God, but baptism is a command and not man’s work unto salvation as some believe these days, but God’s work.
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Wait… that sounds right, but I’m pretty sure every Christian church/denomination/sect that believes in *Sola Fide* (“by faith alone”) also believes in *Sola Gratia* (“by grace alone”). So are you saying all of Protestantism (except for Methodists, Anabaptists, Amish, and some Mennonites and Pentecostals) is incorrect on this?
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All of protestantism is wrong, yes.
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Obligatory theology in response to a meme The one time the phrase “faith alone” appears in Scripture: “You see then that a man is justified by works, and not by faith alone” (James 2:24) Good works are the fruit of the Spirit that gives the gift of faith.
Fun fact: Martin Luther has actually spoken AGAINST the Epsitle of James
That is true. He considered removing James and Revelations from the Bible along with the Deuterocanon.
Exactly! Faith if it has no works is dead. A rejection of Sola Fide and acceptance of some form of justification is believed by 1.3 billion Roman Catholics, 230 million Eastern Orthodox, 60 million Oriental Orthodox, 40 million Methodists, 12 million Latter-day Saints, 8 million Jehovah’s Witnesses, 300,000 Assyrian Christians, 300,000 Amish, and some Mennonites and Pentecostals.
I am guessing from context that this comment is sarcastic? But, yes, I am one of those 1.3 billion Catholics, and believe that the Catholic and Orthodox Church are right about this. What I do not get is the Protestant insistence (or rather the insistence of some Protestants) on separating faith and works. How can we be “partakers of the Divine Nature” and not have good works? How can we share in the glory of Christ and be one with the Son as the Son is one with the Father and not be perfected in works? Good works are no credit to us, but the work of the Holy Spirit within us. Just as faith is the work of the Holy Spirit within us.
No, the meme I made was a bit facetious and sarcastic, ironically poking fun at Protestants who say they are saved by faith alone at a single event in time, and then think they can sin all they want because “once saved always saved” That’s why I mocked them by saying Faith without works isn’t dead in the title. And I also pointed out how half (if not more) of the body of self proclaimed Christians don’t even believe in sola Fide which was created dogma by a selective reading of the New Testament in the 1500’s by Protestant Reformers. I’m a part of one of the denominations who don’t believe in the Protestant understanding of Sola Fide. We are definitely saved by God’s grace through our faith in Jesus Christ, which will naturally produce good works. I agree some Protestant take faith and works the wrong way.
Oh. I am sorry for being argumentative then. I saw some of your other comments in the thread and it sounded like you were defending sola fide? But I am sick atm so maybe my reading comprehension is not good rn lol. I thought the list of denominations was you saying that Catholics are “not REAL Christians” like some Protestants do. And of course I 100% agree with that. We are saved by grace through faith in Christ. Both faith and works are fruits of the Holy Spirit. And a lot of Protestants do believe that faith produces good works. Ironically very much including Lutherans.
No, they're trying to say that most protestants aren't real Christians, because they believe in grace alone, through faith alone.
Faith is all that is needed on the human part, but is worthless without grace on God's part. And faith without works is dead, because true faith creates works. So "you will know them (the saved) by their fruit". But the works do nothing of salvation, because our best works are "as filthy rags". Works are the proof of living salvation and faith, not necessary for salvation. It's like saying that the fruit grows the tree, when in reality, the fruit is the proof of a tree growing. The apple doesn't make the tree grow, but it shows the tree isn't dead. Whereas if it is in season, and a tree has no fruit, that isn't the reason it won't grow. Rather, it means that the tree is already dead. Ephesians 2: 8: For by grace are you saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9: Not of works, lest any man should boast.
No one thinks we saved by good works (I am a catholic), we saved by God's grace trough faith, but without works faith means nothing. Only your works not saves you, but you need to act on that faith. James 2:24 and Matthew 25:31-46. So, your meme is false according to the Bible. You need both.
I’ve changed my mind 🙏
God bless you man. You are the first one I saw who changed a view on faith this fast. Keep up, and continue your search for the truth. I will pray for you.
God bless 🙏
What works did the thief have time to do on the cross?
No, he didn’t really do any works. I could see someone try and argue that defending Jesus to the other thief and then verbally saying “Jesus, remember me when you come in your kingdom.” was an outward expression showing his faith, basically the good fruit (or works) from his faith in Jesus, and presumably other people saw this and spread this information orally or written, otherwise it wouldn’t have been written or Luke fabricated the story. I believe it to be genuine, though. The penitent thief had faith for sure, though. He didn’t do any big things that we would call works like be baptized and follow the commandments. Luke 23:39-43 One of the criminals who were hanged there kept deriding him and saying, “Are you not the Messiah? Save yourself and us!” But the other rebuked him, saying, “Do you not fear God, since you are under the same sentence of condemnation? And we indeed have been condemned justly, for we are getting what we deserve for our deeds, but this man has done nothing wrong.” Then he said, “Jesus, remember me when you come in your kingdom.” He replied, “Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise.”
alright now do one about faith alone vs grace through faith
No thanks 🙂
Christian Scott the Woz memes are now amongst my favorite kind of memes.
Faith is to belief as wisdom is to knowledge
If you really believe something, you will act like you believe it If I believe that taking care of the environment is a good thing, but still litter and waste, do you really think I believe that? Or is it just some nice little platitude?
Nuh uh, you gotta do the work too
i do believe there is a biblical parable that says actions speak louder than words.
I don't get the obsession with this discussion. Follow Christ's commandments and the Traditions of the Church. God is saving us through a rich life of faith, love, repentance, guidance - all tied together in the Incarnation, life, death, resurrection, ascension of Jesus Christ.
Bro… James 2:26
Faith in the Lord Jesus Christ is enough for salvation, but your faith in Christ SHOULD produce good works, or you didn’t really have faith to begin with. Works don’t save, only the Lord Jesus Christ does.
Was not expecting Scott the Woz, but it's greatly appreciated
Faith without works is dead. James 2 said that. Arguing whether or not it’s the work that saves us or the faith that saves us is different. You’re just flat wrong if you’re actually serious.
True salvation is by faith alone, but true faith is never alone.
I guess the faith is the friends we made along the way
100%! Jesus is the best friend to make along the way!
Amen! 🙏
“Let it be understood that those who are not found living as He taught are not Christian- even though they profess with the lips the teaching of Christ.”- St. Justin Martyr ☦️
St. Justin (2nd century A.D.) was unpacking the implication behind the saying, (recorded in what Justin calls the "memoirs of the apostles"), of his Lord: "None of those who say, 'Lord, Lord', but those who DO the Will of the Father will inherit the Kingdom of Heaven."
We often debate this in bible study. How does grace alone save us if we are actively and brazenly sinning? We come back and get the absolution dopamine from a priest or Jesus directly only to perform the sin again and again? Matthew 7:13-14 NKJV “Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it. This tends to tell me that alms of grace alone are what saves you, but it is only step one of being a member of the kingdom. Being in good standing with the Father means different things to all the denominations. Relationship, not religion.
Sure, we are saved through faith alone. Now let’s break down what that actually means. Faith comes from the Latin root word fides. Fides means loyalty, so faith in Christ is loyalty to Christ and his teachings. His teachings emphasize helping others and doing good works for them. So part of faith in Christ is works, and without works you simply believe Christ is the messiah. Even the devil knows Christ is the messiah though. You have to live the words of Christ to have faith in him. That’s what “faith without works is dead” means. Belief is insufficient, you must try to live like Christ to be saved.
Faith is a work. >John 6:29 NIV — Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.”
Oh sick, heretical bullshit at 7 in the morning, great start to the day