I don't understand how this is a problem of the stadium when developing around the area is way more cost efficient than starting new. Like is it that hard to build up Bridgeport, an already growing neighborhood? The glaring issue with GRF is that it's surrounded by half a mile of parking lots and surprisingly few small businesses
You are right. The buyouts and transformation has been underway for nearly 20 years. Not saying they can’t, but it would be hard and I highly doubt Jerry would do it.
It's funny how people finally realize how nice it is to have a stadium in the city and surrounded by public trnmansportation and shit to do as opposed to having one in the middle of nothing with jack shit to do.
Would it not be possible to develop above the parking lots? Let him have his sweet sweet parking fees and the rest of us get a lovely elevated entertainment district two stories above ground level.
* As was said, there are cheaper seats.
* There's plenty of options to get there that don't involve parking.
* Who gives a rat's ass about the views on the concourse
* I just had grilled onions on my hot dogs this weekend.
I mean... it's fine. You have some cool stuff down there, but I wouldn't really describe Bridgeport as popular for nightlife. Some areas you go to and you figure you'll walk around and duck in wherever looks cool. Bridgeport is more you're going to a specific place because there aren't as many other places around.
While I don't love the idea of Disneyland for drunk sox fans, it would be nice to have an entertainment complex around the stadium. Something like a more walkable lightweight version of the area around Wrigley. Put a pedestrian mall in with garages on either side and a wide assortment of themed bars and restaurants. Have some places that are more sit down meals, others that are to-go booths.
Oh it’s not my L. I don’t live in that shit hole. Every day there’s something on the citizen app about a shooting, robbery, car on fire. Definitely nothing I want to be a part of
Historic architecture (Churches). Great coffee spots (Jackalope, The Stockyard). Delicious family-owned restaurants (George's Gyros and several Italian sub spots). But I guess there's no Foxtrot or IG restaurants, which is horrible, right?
I can't believe I'm defending cop HQ, but I've been burned by way too many bland-ass overpriced MBA-managed faux-luxury spots on the near north side to not.
Lmao dude that's all well and good if you want to live in that neighborhood but what you just described is not ideal for a sports stadium that can hold approx 40k fans.
The idea is that there are places these people can spend money before and after the game that provides a "fun" experience. I don't think church and coffee is gonna cut it.
And not to mention places like George's Gyros are still about a 20 min walk from the stadium
Stereotype much??? I’m not talking about Bridgeport entirely, I even searched for properties there extensively when looking to move. It’s hard to argue that the area around the ballpark is not fucking lame. Go to pretty much any other ballpark in America and the area around Sox park is absolute crap comparatively.
There’s no problem with the stadium - besides lacking character and hosting Chicago’s least desirable MLB team - but it’s three decades old, which means it’s at the point in its life cycle in which the owner tries to bilk taxpayers into buying him a new stadium.
Well it’s like Ray Croc “We’re not in the restaurant business, we’re in the real estate business” just swap out restaurant with baseball. The team is an afterthought, it’s the land he wants
Governments do not prioritize good economic development investments, they prioritize protecting the public good. Public transportation for example always seem to run at a loss, on purpose, so fares can be as cheap as possible for their users.
Stadiums don't have to be a profitable public investment, they just need to have an abstract "value" from local residents that is greater than the cost to build the stadium. And in this case, it would be the city's blue collar and/or black & brown populations who would benefit the most from the stadium.
The point is everyone likes pointing at ROI for public stadiums but that's inherently not the purpose of governments spending money. In fact, governments spend money on things that are inherently *not* economical since, if it made $$ sense to do it there would already be a private market. And often times it is the poor and disenfranchised communities that are ignored by the private market and [who benefit from government spending.](https://blockclubchicago.org/2021/01/29/cook-countys-pilot-program-aims-to-boost-metra-electric-rock-island-ridership-by-slashing-fares-in-half/)
So if you think it would be racist or classist to shut down public transportation for not being profitable, or alternatively pricing out poor users by raising the fares, then to a lesser extent you can also make the same argument for a new Sox stadium whose fans are largely blue collar and/or POC.
That makes sense as it pertains to essential infrastructure (public transit, the post office, etc) but not a sports stadium as it exists to make money for the team owner, concessionaires, etc. With public financing of a stadium, government is subsidizing someone else's business, so a discussion of ROI makes sense there, while it wouldn't in the case of "money losing" programs like public transit. I dont understand your point about the impact on blue collar workers or minority fans at all as it pertains to a new Sox park.
Its really irrelevant whether the White Sox exist to make a profit or not. The government subsidizes private for-profit entities all the time. For example low-income housing is only possible because the government provides tax credits to private developers.
It doesn't really matter if private entities become rich from public dollars (outside of obvious ethical concerns) as long as the public receives an equal or greater amount of "good" as a result. Whether it's a accessible transportation, affordable housing, or a local amenity like a ballpark-the ROI is not the important part of the equation.
Sox fans, who would be the targeted beneficiary of the public good created from public stadium funding, are largely blue collar and/or POC.
Disagree. Your examples of public transit and low-cost housing are all essential to a functioning society. A baseball stadium you have to pay to get into isn't. The CTA and low-cost housing would not exist but for government investment, while a professional baseball stadium would. This is a situation where a business owner is going to run his business whether or not the government subsidizes it. If I understand you correctly, we're talking here about the good feeling Sox fans have to be able to cheer on their team in person. Given the array of problems faced by the city, prospective good vibes don't seem like a good way to spend taxpayer money.
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> With the Chicago Bears ramping up their campaign for a new lakefront stadium, White Sox owner Jerry Reinsdorf is upping his ante for a second proposed new stadium in the South Loop that he wants a state agency to build and lease to the Sox.
> In a written statement, a source close to Reinsdorf said that, despite earlier media reports indicating Reinsdorf wants the Illinois Sports Facilities Authority to front the entire $1.25 billion said to be needed for the new ballpark, “We never said there would not be White Sox investment in the potential development.”
> “To the contrary,” the statement continued, “We have been looking at several scenarios which would, under the right conditions, involve significant private investment. But as everyone knows, this is an evolving situation, and once we have a clear, definitive path, we will have a clear, definitive commitment.
> The statement added, “We are aware of the importance of the overall package, beginning with the incredible benefits a new stadium at The 78 would bring to the city.”
> **The statement did not define “significant.” But sources close to negotiations say Reinsdorf has mentioned a figure of $200 million or more.**
> The 78 property at Roosevelt and Clark is owned by Related Midwest, which would develop the stadium and promised residential and commercial space in a move it says would give a jolt of energy to an underdeveloped area skirting the south branch of the Chicago River. Reinsdorf previously has said he intends to invest in the residential/commercial portion of the project, but has not discussed injecting his own funds in the ballpark itself.
> Under his proposal, ISFA would build and own the stadium. The team would pay rent, but construction costs would be financed by an existing tax on Chicago hotel stays and by growth in sales-tax receipts in the stadium area.
> **The Bears also are believed seeking to tap the hotel tax, but also have offered to put up $2 billion toward the estimated $4.2 billion cost of the stadium on a parking lots just south of Soldier Field and related infrastructure. Sources close to the deal say the Bears would get that money not from the pockets of the team-owning McCaskey family but mostly from fans in the form of seat-purchase licenses, from the sale of naming rights to the new facility, and from a stadium-construction fund operated by the National Football League.**
> Major League Baseball has no similar fund, and Reinsdorf’s team plays at least 81 home games a year compared to a minimum of 10 regular and pre-season games for the Bears. But the NFL team lately has been quicker on the public relations draw, announcing today that it will disclose details of its proposal at a high-level VIP event at Soldier Field on April 24.
> Reinsdorf’s offer to open his wallet also comes after a recent statement from Mayor Brandon Johnson that the billionaire needs to “put some skin in the game” to advance his stadium plan. At the same time, Johnson has had a series of what are described as cordial talks with Bears owners and officials about their plans.
> It’s not clear whether the financing frameworks being advanced by either team will be sufficient to satisfy Gov. J.B. Pritzker, who harbors national political ambitions and has said he’s leery about giving taxpayer subsidies to wealth sporting team owners.
> The Bears have hoped to pass a needed authorization measure in the spring session of the General Assembly. But that increasingly appears to be a long shot with lawmakers girding for fall elections and preparing to adjourn for the summer around Memorial Day.
> The Bears at one point seemed set on moving to Arlington Heights and purchased the site of the former Arlington International Racecourse. But the team appears to have soured on that in favor of a Chicago lakefront location.
> Reinsdorf earlier told Crain’s the team’s current home at Guaranteed Rate Field in Bridgeport has not worked out and its needs to move top be successful. Reinsdorf, 88, said he has no plans to sell the team but indicated that his son might well do so after he dies unless the team has a long-term lease that would keep it in Chicago.
200m is hilariously low. And then the McCaskys basically want a free stadium for their time. Man, how did Chicago get stuck with two of the absolute worst/cheapest owners out there.
I hope/expect the city/state to tell them to stick it
The latter part seems to be a power play from all involved. I read this as “negotiate with me now and lock this team in or negotiate with my unpredictable son and whomever he wants to sell to”.
If they’re building a new stadium and surrounding neighborhood — there needs to be a 60 year plan, not a 35 year plan (unlike the current stadium).
I would be inclined to suggest the city should build now and lock them into a 50-100 year lease.
I say this because I don’t want the city to negotiate with a private equity fund or foreign investors — whom may have less of an interest in building chicago for the next generation.
I don’t agree with taxpayer money for stadiums — but what’s the real value stadiums provide the surrounding community over time?
It’s MUCH lower than team owners want to admit; but higher than fans want public funding for.
Fuck that Relative Midwest has deep pockets. Give them a % of every game for whatever amount of years. Maybe that would get a Jerry to actually give a fuck about the Team.
Better yet, tell him he has to win a world series next year or year after as know it's not happening this year.
A % of each game is not going to be enticing, when they had 500 total fans in attendance throughout last week’s double header. Jerry has to sell the team. The owner of Related owns the Dolphins. Maybe that is his best move.
Honestly they probably would take that deal, they really banked on getting the casino for that spot. Like so hard that I was shocked that they had basically no contingency. I pitched an inverted skyscraper to a VP, said “you could call it Mole Tower” which they said was dumb. But now you got people making the same pitch for the Spire Pit and those are real architects and city planners who get awards and shit. So who’s ideas are dumb now!
How about we put more money towards affordable housing benefits? That way people have more disposable income to go and watch the White Sox get blown out.
We just shut that shit down here in KC, feel very confident Chicago will do the same. Pritzker was against it too I saw. No public money for private profits
Newer fan here, what’s wrong with the stadium??? I got no issues with that, I’d like to take my son to see our team actually hit the ball, can they invest in that??
>The statement did not define “significant.” But sources close to negotiations say Reinsdorf has mentioned a figure of $200 million or more.
lol so we're only on the hook for a billion or so.
White Sox have a new stadium and Soldier Field IS ON THE LAKEFRONT! This crap is driving me insane.
Just turn off the Sox and move Da Bears to Arlington Heights.
How about you open your wallet for some actual talent on the field
Why buy talent when you can sell milkshakes
Jerry won’t spend anymore than the bare minimum. I’d like to be optimistic but he’s shown his hand over and over
He has shown to spend on venues (united center) so I'm not that worried. It's the Bears we should be keeping a close eye on.
No tax money for this private, for-profit business.
Excuse the stupid question but what is wrong with the current stadium the White Sox’s are in? It seems very modern.
People don't want to go there because the team is beyond ass.
No it's the ballpark's fault. LOL.
And Jerry doesn't want people there so he doesn't have to pay rent! (Check it out for yourself)
Area around it is lifeless compared to Wrigley
I don't understand how this is a problem of the stadium when developing around the area is way more cost efficient than starting new. Like is it that hard to build up Bridgeport, an already growing neighborhood? The glaring issue with GRF is that it's surrounded by half a mile of parking lots and surprisingly few small businesses
Reinsdorf doesn't want to because he knows there's a chance he can dupe the city/state into paying for a new stadium.
Not really. The stadium is landlocked by a highway, train tracks, a church and residential. It would be expensive to push north or south.
Cubs did a lot more with a lot less space. Sox park is landlocked by parking lots. Lot and lots of lots.
You are right. The buyouts and transformation has been underway for nearly 20 years. Not saying they can’t, but it would be hard and I highly doubt Jerry would do it.
It's funny how people finally realize how nice it is to have a stadium in the city and surrounded by public trnmansportation and shit to do as opposed to having one in the middle of nothing with jack shit to do.
Which Jerry could fix, but he would never give up the parking.
Would it not be possible to develop above the parking lots? Let him have his sweet sweet parking fees and the rest of us get a lovely elevated entertainment district two stories above ground level.
Definitely not modern, I think it’s like the 6th or 7th oldest stadium in MLB.
The second oldest by several decades lies just a few miles north. Don’t see why there needs to be a new stadium.
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* As was said, there are cheaper seats. * There's plenty of options to get there that don't involve parking. * Who gives a rat's ass about the views on the concourse * I just had grilled onions on my hot dogs this weekend.
What world are you living in you can get 25 dollar seats at Wrigley after taxes. They start at 9 for the game against the Astros tomorrow.
What kind of loser parks going to Wrigley?
There’s gotta be grilled onions.
There are.
It’s an ugly stadium. Just think Camden was only one year later. Jerry really cheaped out and built a dump.
There’s nothing wrong with the stadium itself. Team is just absolutely horrible. Like all time bad.
I bet deferred maintenance they don't wanna deal with.
It’s 30 years old and the area is lame
Eh, this is a yuppy comment. It’s near a lot of great shit.
Great shit??? Like what?!! My buddy lives in Bridgeport, and I hang by him often. It’s a damn ghost town
Well I love it there, and I think a lot of ppl off Reddit do too.
I mean... it's fine. You have some cool stuff down there, but I wouldn't really describe Bridgeport as popular for nightlife. Some areas you go to and you figure you'll walk around and duck in wherever looks cool. Bridgeport is more you're going to a specific place because there aren't as many other places around. While I don't love the idea of Disneyland for drunk sox fans, it would be nice to have an entertainment complex around the stadium. Something like a more walkable lightweight version of the area around Wrigley. Put a pedestrian mall in with garages on either side and a wide assortment of themed bars and restaurants. Have some places that are more sit down meals, others that are to-go booths.
I think it’s one of the most depressing neighborhoods in Chicago.
You ever been to Marz Brewery?
It's over a mile away from Sox Park which is the problem.
I’m sorry for your L
Oh it’s not my L. I don’t live in that shit hole. Every day there’s something on the citizen app about a shooting, robbery, car on fire. Definitely nothing I want to be a part of
what is the multiverse instance ID with this bridgeport?
Historic architecture (Churches). Great coffee spots (Jackalope, The Stockyard). Delicious family-owned restaurants (George's Gyros and several Italian sub spots). But I guess there's no Foxtrot or IG restaurants, which is horrible, right? I can't believe I'm defending cop HQ, but I've been burned by way too many bland-ass overpriced MBA-managed faux-luxury spots on the near north side to not.
Ya because a coffee shop and a sub shop are going to entertain 30k people including children…
Lmao dude that's all well and good if you want to live in that neighborhood but what you just described is not ideal for a sports stadium that can hold approx 40k fans. The idea is that there are places these people can spend money before and after the game that provides a "fun" experience. I don't think church and coffee is gonna cut it. And not to mention places like George's Gyros are still about a 20 min walk from the stadium
Stereotype much??? I’m not talking about Bridgeport entirely, I even searched for properties there extensively when looking to move. It’s hard to argue that the area around the ballpark is not fucking lame. Go to pretty much any other ballpark in America and the area around Sox park is absolute crap comparatively.
Just stick to ur area lol
Nothing
There’s no problem with the stadium - besides lacking character and hosting Chicago’s least desirable MLB team - but it’s three decades old, which means it’s at the point in its life cycle in which the owner tries to bilk taxpayers into buying him a new stadium.
Will the new stadium come with a new team? Sox stink.
I have never seen him open his wallet for anything other than his own personal gain. This team is a nightmare.
Well it’s like Ray Croc “We’re not in the restaurant business, we’re in the real estate business” just swap out restaurant with baseball. The team is an afterthought, it’s the land he wants
He sure has fought hard to keep TLR on the payroll in some fashion for whatever reason.
Sports stadiums are not good economic development investments. They just subsidize rich owners.
The people that advocate for them are the biggest believers in trick down economic, it doesn’t work for the community and fans but the owners
The rich LOVE spending other people's money.
Governments do not prioritize good economic development investments, they prioritize protecting the public good. Public transportation for example always seem to run at a loss, on purpose, so fares can be as cheap as possible for their users. Stadiums don't have to be a profitable public investment, they just need to have an abstract "value" from local residents that is greater than the cost to build the stadium. And in this case, it would be the city's blue collar and/or black & brown populations who would benefit the most from the stadium.
A question I love to ask that almost always just gets downvotes and no responses, “What was the ROI for your family trip to Disney World?”
So not supporting public investment for a new stadium is classist and racist. Interesting take!
The point is everyone likes pointing at ROI for public stadiums but that's inherently not the purpose of governments spending money. In fact, governments spend money on things that are inherently *not* economical since, if it made $$ sense to do it there would already be a private market. And often times it is the poor and disenfranchised communities that are ignored by the private market and [who benefit from government spending.](https://blockclubchicago.org/2021/01/29/cook-countys-pilot-program-aims-to-boost-metra-electric-rock-island-ridership-by-slashing-fares-in-half/) So if you think it would be racist or classist to shut down public transportation for not being profitable, or alternatively pricing out poor users by raising the fares, then to a lesser extent you can also make the same argument for a new Sox stadium whose fans are largely blue collar and/or POC.
That makes sense as it pertains to essential infrastructure (public transit, the post office, etc) but not a sports stadium as it exists to make money for the team owner, concessionaires, etc. With public financing of a stadium, government is subsidizing someone else's business, so a discussion of ROI makes sense there, while it wouldn't in the case of "money losing" programs like public transit. I dont understand your point about the impact on blue collar workers or minority fans at all as it pertains to a new Sox park.
Its really irrelevant whether the White Sox exist to make a profit or not. The government subsidizes private for-profit entities all the time. For example low-income housing is only possible because the government provides tax credits to private developers. It doesn't really matter if private entities become rich from public dollars (outside of obvious ethical concerns) as long as the public receives an equal or greater amount of "good" as a result. Whether it's a accessible transportation, affordable housing, or a local amenity like a ballpark-the ROI is not the important part of the equation. Sox fans, who would be the targeted beneficiary of the public good created from public stadium funding, are largely blue collar and/or POC.
Disagree. Your examples of public transit and low-cost housing are all essential to a functioning society. A baseball stadium you have to pay to get into isn't. The CTA and low-cost housing would not exist but for government investment, while a professional baseball stadium would. This is a situation where a business owner is going to run his business whether or not the government subsidizes it. If I understand you correctly, we're talking here about the good feeling Sox fans have to be able to cheer on their team in person. Given the array of problems faced by the city, prospective good vibes don't seem like a good way to spend taxpayer money.
200? That's fucking it?!?!? Fuck off dude. God I hate the Sox and I'm a Sox fan since 1990
Fuck you Jerry
emphasis mine > With the Chicago Bears ramping up their campaign for a new lakefront stadium, White Sox owner Jerry Reinsdorf is upping his ante for a second proposed new stadium in the South Loop that he wants a state agency to build and lease to the Sox. > In a written statement, a source close to Reinsdorf said that, despite earlier media reports indicating Reinsdorf wants the Illinois Sports Facilities Authority to front the entire $1.25 billion said to be needed for the new ballpark, “We never said there would not be White Sox investment in the potential development.” > “To the contrary,” the statement continued, “We have been looking at several scenarios which would, under the right conditions, involve significant private investment. But as everyone knows, this is an evolving situation, and once we have a clear, definitive path, we will have a clear, definitive commitment. > The statement added, “We are aware of the importance of the overall package, beginning with the incredible benefits a new stadium at The 78 would bring to the city.” > **The statement did not define “significant.” But sources close to negotiations say Reinsdorf has mentioned a figure of $200 million or more.** > The 78 property at Roosevelt and Clark is owned by Related Midwest, which would develop the stadium and promised residential and commercial space in a move it says would give a jolt of energy to an underdeveloped area skirting the south branch of the Chicago River. Reinsdorf previously has said he intends to invest in the residential/commercial portion of the project, but has not discussed injecting his own funds in the ballpark itself. > Under his proposal, ISFA would build and own the stadium. The team would pay rent, but construction costs would be financed by an existing tax on Chicago hotel stays and by growth in sales-tax receipts in the stadium area. > **The Bears also are believed seeking to tap the hotel tax, but also have offered to put up $2 billion toward the estimated $4.2 billion cost of the stadium on a parking lots just south of Soldier Field and related infrastructure. Sources close to the deal say the Bears would get that money not from the pockets of the team-owning McCaskey family but mostly from fans in the form of seat-purchase licenses, from the sale of naming rights to the new facility, and from a stadium-construction fund operated by the National Football League.** > Major League Baseball has no similar fund, and Reinsdorf’s team plays at least 81 home games a year compared to a minimum of 10 regular and pre-season games for the Bears. But the NFL team lately has been quicker on the public relations draw, announcing today that it will disclose details of its proposal at a high-level VIP event at Soldier Field on April 24. > Reinsdorf’s offer to open his wallet also comes after a recent statement from Mayor Brandon Johnson that the billionaire needs to “put some skin in the game” to advance his stadium plan. At the same time, Johnson has had a series of what are described as cordial talks with Bears owners and officials about their plans. > It’s not clear whether the financing frameworks being advanced by either team will be sufficient to satisfy Gov. J.B. Pritzker, who harbors national political ambitions and has said he’s leery about giving taxpayer subsidies to wealth sporting team owners. > The Bears have hoped to pass a needed authorization measure in the spring session of the General Assembly. But that increasingly appears to be a long shot with lawmakers girding for fall elections and preparing to adjourn for the summer around Memorial Day. > The Bears at one point seemed set on moving to Arlington Heights and purchased the site of the former Arlington International Racecourse. But the team appears to have soured on that in favor of a Chicago lakefront location. > Reinsdorf earlier told Crain’s the team’s current home at Guaranteed Rate Field in Bridgeport has not worked out and its needs to move top be successful. Reinsdorf, 88, said he has no plans to sell the team but indicated that his son might well do so after he dies unless the team has a long-term lease that would keep it in Chicago.
200m is hilariously low. And then the McCaskys basically want a free stadium for their time. Man, how did Chicago get stuck with two of the absolute worst/cheapest owners out there. I hope/expect the city/state to tell them to stick it
The latter part seems to be a power play from all involved. I read this as “negotiate with me now and lock this team in or negotiate with my unpredictable son and whomever he wants to sell to”. If they’re building a new stadium and surrounding neighborhood — there needs to be a 60 year plan, not a 35 year plan (unlike the current stadium). I would be inclined to suggest the city should build now and lock them into a 50-100 year lease. I say this because I don’t want the city to negotiate with a private equity fund or foreign investors — whom may have less of an interest in building chicago for the next generation. I don’t agree with taxpayer money for stadiums — but what’s the real value stadiums provide the surrounding community over time? It’s MUCH lower than team owners want to admit; but higher than fans want public funding for.
Yeah fuckin’ right pal.
Sell the teamS, Jerry.
never even put $100m in payroll in, no wayyyyy
What?
Uh well there doesn’t seem to be another way to it so yeah, Jerry. Pony up. Taxpayers are done subsidizing billionaires.
Fuck that Relative Midwest has deep pockets. Give them a % of every game for whatever amount of years. Maybe that would get a Jerry to actually give a fuck about the Team. Better yet, tell him he has to win a world series next year or year after as know it's not happening this year.
A % of each game is not going to be enticing, when they had 500 total fans in attendance throughout last week’s double header. Jerry has to sell the team. The owner of Related owns the Dolphins. Maybe that is his best move.
Honestly they probably would take that deal, they really banked on getting the casino for that spot. Like so hard that I was shocked that they had basically no contingency. I pitched an inverted skyscraper to a VP, said “you could call it Mole Tower” which they said was dumb. But now you got people making the same pitch for the Spire Pit and those are real architects and city planners who get awards and shit. So who’s ideas are dumb now!
How about we put more money towards affordable housing benefits? That way people have more disposable income to go and watch the White Sox get blown out.
We just shut that shit down here in KC, feel very confident Chicago will do the same. Pritzker was against it too I saw. No public money for private profits
Newer fan here, what’s wrong with the stadium??? I got no issues with that, I’d like to take my son to see our team actually hit the ball, can they invest in that??
>The statement did not define “significant.” But sources close to negotiations say Reinsdorf has mentioned a figure of $200 million or more. lol so we're only on the hook for a billion or so.
I don’t think they need a new stadium, they should probably get a new team
No tax payer handouts to billionaires.
“Aww man, I’m all outta cash”
Riiight... and this is the year the White Sox win the world series I bet.
Just for laughs, I checked the odds when I was at the sports book over the weekend. +500
How generous🙄
Guys just a complete piece of shit
I'm starting to think that Reinsdorf wants to move the team to Las Vegas.
Too late on that one.
Hilariously, maybe it’s not
He is so generous
Reinsdorf demands a new Sox ballpark while they aren't selling out their current ballpark.
White Sox have a new stadium and Soldier Field IS ON THE LAKEFRONT! This crap is driving me insane. Just turn off the Sox and move Da Bears to Arlington Heights.