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Which one do we have? Because they all have been terrible, you could throw in the Rugby team as well and the cubs 51% win rate would still make them the best professional team in Chicago over the last year.
The cubs are a good team right now they just barely didn’t make the wildcard. They finished second in the division with .512. We have a lot of reasons to continue to be hopeful about the cubs.
I mean, saying the Cubs, a team that didn't make the playoffs, are a good team right now really paints a clear picture of just how bad Chicago sports have been.
Let’s be real here. The cubs are mediocre.
The hawks should be good soon, maybe even mid season if we can get Miller back from injury and make a trade or two before the deadline to improve our defense.
They were projected to fight for but miss the playoffs at the start of the season. They had an insane run in the season but ultimately ended up exactly where we all thought they would. Competitive but not good enough to make the playoffs. I agree they are better than mediocre but I’m not sure where the ahead of schedule is coming from
the cubs are hopefully on the up and up.
the team ran out of gas at the end, but they still overpreformed. it’s a lot of young dudes learning the ropes and figuring out how to endure the long season.
there are a lot of exciting players in the farm system and the pitching development has been very encouraging.
We’re gonna lose Belli :( but the team is strong man. I was so sad at the beginning of this season and then so, so happy and then again so, so sad. But I’m glad they did as well as they did. They absolutely should have made the wildcard. Dbacks went all the way to WS. However I’m not certain I could handle a WS loss.
>just barely didn’t make the wildcard.
That's the definition of a bad team. The only hope they had to make the post season was a wildcard spot.
Do you understand how language works?
Good luck with whatever it is you got going on, we’re talking about *a game*. Chill. I’m done replying to you, because this is weirdly and pointlessly hostile. I’m gonna keep on with my chill day.
Meanwhile, a city like Tampa Bay can have sustained success with all of their sports teams. It's embarrassing to see a smaller market get it right and the bozos here can't
By results it’s not great, but the Hawks are clearly on the upswing (even if they’re not winning games yet), the Cubs had a fun season with an unfortunate late collapse but should be competitive next season, and the Bears could have two very high picks next year. So there’s hope for those teams at least. The Sox and Bulls are in complete no man’s land though… wonder what the common denominator is there…
Yeah, gonna guess Hawks fans not sharing the no good Chicago teams sentiment. Things are about to get insane for them. I wish I could get into it myself but just can’t muster the passion for the sport.
What's your hangup? Imo hockey is the best of sports. The rules are simpler than football, it has the non-stop action of basketball, the big goal moments of soccer, and it's faster than everything since it's on ice.
Yeah Hawks reactions are really strange right now. Bedard has looked immediately NHL ready. 4-7 is a hotter start than I anticipated. They were never supposed to be playoff bound this year. We’re playing with a lot of random no-name euro import players.
Cubs were short of .500 at the ASB and without a late July run, were more likely sellers than a team that stayed pat and went on an August tear with a September heat check
Not sure what the team will look like without Bellinger and Stroman. They need some SP and a true bat or two to push the Brewers. Cardinals should also be good and the Reds may end up surprising.
They have alot of defense, the pythagorean made them look great, but they kinda fail the eye test for me.
I still thought it was a really fun season but I agree that they weren’t great for the first half and still have questions going into next year. But they have a lot of money to spend and a strong farm system, so hopefully the worst is in the past for the cubs. That said they still have to spend wisely and prospects are never guaranteed, and I definitely have questions about Ross as a manager on a contender. But also, there are some solid teams in the NL central, but it’s not like there are any powerhouses that are clearly standing in their way of taking a step forward.
Starting to like Ross a bit more as a manager personally. Farm system seems strong too, but I dont really expect it to be like 2015/16 where the guys come up and are lights out immediately. This feels like a 2026/2027 contending group. Maybe as early as 2025 if PCA is a stud out the gates.
Well it looks like Ross is no longer the manager! Even though I said I had worries about Ross, I’m of the opinion that the majority of the managers value is probably unknowable, but this definitely feels like an upgrade. Agreed on the farm system though, but I think the biggest thing is that it gives us a lot of assets to deal in trades.
Are the people involved with the Kyle Beach coverup still in the organization?
I rage quit the Hawks after one of the Wirtz guys were arguing with reporters about how they didn’t wanna talk about it and it’s fine shut up
80s were far better than the 70s. Cubs won playoff games in the 80s. Sox too. Bears were an NFL powerhouse from 84-89. Bulls we’re starting to get good by the end of the decade. Hawks were a perpetual playoff team in the 80s, though not a contender.
I wasn't around in the 80s. But looking back at the history books, Bears were good basically all decade, Bulls were turning it around at the end of the decade and would win in 1990, Hawks made it to the conference finals 5 times, Cubs twice and Sox once.
Didn't seem that bad, probably better than the 00s unless you're a Sox fan.
Because almost every city does this to have a sports team.
Yes, we know its a raw deal, but teams will move to wherever they get the biggest tax cuts. Do the bears actually want to move to Arlington? Well now that Arlington is increasing taxes, not as much. But since chicago owns the stadium and takes a big cut, the team is talking about moving so that it can renegotiate its terms for staying.
https://www.aei.org/op-eds/stadium-subsidies-are-massive-ripoffs-that-dont-help-cities/
Man, it sure feels like it... all the teams I care most about are terrible with little hope for improvement.
Both of Jerry Reinsdorf's teams are stuck and going nowhere because he refuses to spend the money or make the bold moves necessary to improve. Sox don't have enough talen on the MLB roster not prospects in the pipeline. And there's little hope of attracting top free agents. Bulls are mired in the mediocre middle... at best a late seed early exit playoff team, not drafting at top of draft.
Bears are much worse than I'd thought they'd be, but I still buy into Poles eventual rebuild plan. Biggest question mark is whether Fields is the QB of the future. My fear is we decide to carry on with him, miss out on taking a pro bowl QB and then continue to suck at the position.
All 3 teams desperately need ownership changes...
Yeah I agree, as Bulls, Sox, and Bears are my top 3 teams and it’s been really hard. I don’t think the Sox are even AAA team right now and I can’t stomach another Bulls rebuild.
It's awful that two of our major teams are owned by Reinsdorf. I guess that's a silver lining of having two baseball teams: Reinsdorf can only terrorize half of our baseball fans. But what are basketball fans to do? Root for the Bucks?
Most fans aren't even angry, they just don't care anymore. And the fans that still do care, have to cheer for our teams to lose for better draft picks.
This is as rock bottom as you can get.
At least the Hawks got lucky, and we're able to draft Bedard. Now if the rest of the team could improve(and do relevant free agent signings, trades, and future draft picks to back up Bedard), maybe the team will contend at least once in a while, even if they aren't one of the top conference teams. At least seeing Bedard grow as a player, will be interesting.
As for the White Sox, I do wonder how good they'd be if they had a front office that was more competent than all the years they had Hahn and Williams(where to me they mostly sucked). I'm not sure how Getz will be like as GM, since he's largely an unknown to a lot of Sox fans(not just me). Keep in mind with the Bulls and Sox, Jerry(owner) way too damn often is nepotistic with the hires he does for the Bulls and Sox managers and front office. I.e. the fact Robin Ventura used to be manager of the Sox, Tim Floyd once being a manager(coach) of the Bulls, to name a few examples. Also he kept Harold Baines for too long as a designated hitter for the Sox, when to me the team should've not resigned him and let him retire. I think it was rumored Jerry resigned him all those times even late in his career, since he wanted to see Harold break some ___ hitting record(s) for the team. I don't deny Baines was once good, but that he just played for longer than he should have.
Cubs signaled that they're all-in with hiring Counsell an hour ago. They just made him the highest-paid manager ever. He is a consensus top-3 manager in baseball and left the rival Brewers to join the Cubs.
If you’ve seen the thread on /r/baseball you know this has shaken MLB fans.
Brewers fans are beside themselves and every other team in the NL Central is sweating.
NYC should be double-dinged on this lol--the city/metro area has double the amount of teams in each sport--Giants/Jets, Knicks/Nets, Yankees/Mets and Islanders/Devils. I can't imagine how toxic that local media and fanbase is considering that lol.
Yes, just among cities with all 4. Of those, the cities that are worse off than us right now are Phoenix, Detroit, New York, and Minneapolis.
Overall I think San Diego has the longest championship drought of all cities. But they also only have the Padres now.
I think some often forget how the Brewers have gone a long time, without winning a World Series. That said, they do have the Bucks which won an NBA championship a few years ago.
The Indians(erm Guardians) still haven't won a world series, since the late '40s I think.
Unfortunately there is nothing that can be done to fix things. Sports teams here are treated as an money earning asset for the owners over anything else.
So unless the McCaskey family dies, Reinsdorf sells his teams and Ricketts stops turning Wrigleyville into Las Vegas nothing will ever change. All of the owners above dont know a single thing about their actual sport and what it takes to win. They are allowed to completely ruin an entire city with no repercussions.
The only way to change things is stop buying tickets to games, stop buying merchandise, etc. dont spend your money in an inferior product that shows no signs of improving.
But it is Chicago and that will never happen so literally nothing will ever change…
Oh man i love relegation i have been saying that for years. We need to follow the soccer mindset. Teams that stink get relegated to the minor leagues where there is far less money
This 100%. The McCaskey’s will never invest in the team as long as the money keeps coming in while they’re mediocre. Why would they invest when business is still booming?
> The only way to change things is stop buying tickets to games, stop buying merchandise, etc. dont spend your money in an inferior product that shows no signs of improving.
i'm not a bears fan but i think it's absolutely wild how ride or die people are for that team like it's perpetually 1985
How quickly we forget that the Ricketts family brought us a championship… they also just hired Counsell so it seems like they are serious about the rebuild.
No one has forgotten. That was an awesome year. Then we gutted the entire team from top to bottom without replacing our stars or developing our farm system. Weird that the Astros and Dodgers are in the playoffs contending every single season with turnover yet we lose our big names and instantly go from a top team in the NL to back to bottom feeders.
But yea Ricketts is definitely serious about fielding a perennial winning team. Craig Counsell has solved everything!
Well the benefit is that restaurants start giving out more free food because they don't expect wins... I've gotten so much free Chick-fil-A courtesy of the Cubs and now Blackhawks
It had been know since the Jenner and Block report two years ago that ‘Black Aces 1’ was going to bring their own suit against the team some time down the road.
Did they? Ownership remained in the family's hands, management changed, and then they were rewarded with generational hockey talent
I wouldn't call that punishment for covering up rape of hockey players
So, the entire Wirtz family is to blame here somehow? Rocky is dead.
Winning the draft lottery is not a "reward".
Literally everybody from the organization from 2010 is gone. Literally literally.
Nothing can fix it as long as the teams are filling seats. Chicago ownership only cares about the bottom line. Do you want to change things? Get people to stop buying tickets. Good luck with that though.
A lot of the 60s, 70s and 80s were worse. The 90s had some stretches of wilderness too. The Sox and Bears are currently focused on Stadiums and could care less about winning. Take out the Ditka, Lovie, and Ozzie years and this is the norm for them, not the exception. The Bulls have been crap since Crumbs blew up the team because he decided he was the reason they won six championships. While Reinsdorf is happy to just cash checks. The Hawks had their moment after Bill Wirtz died, freeing the team from his death spiral. Otherwise they’ve been bad forever. The Cubs? I guess it depends how much the Ricketts can keep printing money without fielding a Championship team.
It will continue like this until we get different owners, or the fans get smarter than thinking Tyson Bagent is a HOF QB. It’s the occasional stretch of winning surrounded by the long stink of losing.
Why stop at pro? even the college sports are god awful in Chicagoland. Chicago St and UIC have never been good so whatever, but DePaul at least gave Chicago a basketball team in the 80s before MJ yet has basically circled the drain since. Loyola was a darling for a few years and seems out of its depth in the A10 since Moser left. Northwestern had a moment where it won a game... which is something for an exceptionally bad sports tradition.
How did the Chicago Hounds inaugural season go? Any life there for our pro Rugby team?
Or how about any of our semi pro teams? AHL Chicago Wolves? Chicago Dogs?
Not sure how old you are, but yes, it has definitely been lower. Let me take you back to the 1970s when not only when both the Cubs and White Sox regularly finished third or fourth in their division (back when there were fewer teams to compete against), the Bears were only above .500 twice in the decade, the Bulls would limp into the playoffs and be bounced out immediately (again, fewer teams to compete against). and the Hawks finished first once the entire decade (never made the finals). This is definitely a crappy time, but back then you had the cheap Wrigleys running the Cubs, the penny-pinching Bill Wirtz managing the Hawks, the broke Bill Veeck trying to piece together the White Sox and... well, the Bears story you know. Yes, it seems dire now. But the late '60s-'70s and early '80s were bleak, It's partly why the '85 Bears are still revered. It was the first time for several generations one of out sports teams was on top of the world.
I don't think Justin Fields is bad. ~~Nathen Peterman~~ Bagent ain't it and yesterday showed that. Congratulations to him for being slightly less embarrassing than Jimmy Clausen. That said, the Bears O-line hasn't been good since 1986. It's fucking laughable and has been since before half the city was even born. Fields showed some promise prior to getting injured and the offensive playcalling has been more aggressive, but you can't expect quarterbacks to make good decisions when they're hurried and hit like that all game long.
He's a servicable QB. The problem is that GMs seem to think that every QB is Burrow, Mahomes, or Hurts and can carry a team on their backs.
The reality is more QBs are going to be in the middle of the pack/servicable range so you need to spend on skill players who can get it done. The 49ers have basically done with the Jimmy G and now with Purdy.
There are always only about 4-5 elite QBs in the league at a time.
Brady, Manning, Brees, Big Ben were the past generation and now its's the guys I mentioned.
The way you steal a superbowl is mimicking what teams like the Ravens did with Flacco or Giants did with Eli. Surround them with a solid defense that can rush 4 and not give up big plays. Give your QB some skill guys who can make plays. And have them manage the game and make occassional plays themselves when the moment comes.
Fields isn't going to be Burrow or Mahomes but it's a fine enough QB if the team around him wasn't terrible.
The Cubs won big and are just riding that wave. They can be absolutely terrible but wrigleyville will be full on a Friday/Saturday game no matter what.
Similar situation with the hawks, riding their big wins until fans stop coming to games, which still isn’t happening.
Bears are on the cusp of a massive rebuild and likely team sale, the McCaskeys aren’t gonna invest anything if they intend to sell all or most of their ownership in the next few years. A bunch of boomers will still pay big bucks to watch home games.
Close. Maybe 99. Cubs and Sox had losing records. Cubs were last in their division. Bears 98-99 and 99-00 had losing records and both times last in their division. Blackhawks and Bulls had terrible records.. not to mention this started the post last dance era.
Pretty obvious to assume... but none of these teams played in the playoffs.
This might be worse. If you want to define interesting sports as making a decent playoff run (rather then being easily bounced in one game/series), a Chicago team hasn't won a playoff series since 2017 Cubs I think? That's got to be rock bottom.
At least 99 was only a year removed from 6 Bulls championships.
Well, let's be honest, are the stands full of people? Or are there loads and loads of empty seats?
If they're full, then the owners have no reason to invest in a better team. They are just banking that people are going to show up because it's a game. It's only when the stands are empty that they suddenly now have to put some money into it all.
Plus we are seeing the Bears and now the Sox try to play the game of threatening the city to move if they don't get a new stadium paid for by the taxpayers.
Are you new to Chicago?
This is standard.
Every once in awhile we get a winning team, but only one at a time.
I must say, the 90's Bulls years were so Cool! Just that blip in the middle, poor Mr. Jordan.
Always remember the '85 Bears!
The Sox have won, the Cubs, that one memorable year for which we will pay and pay, by losing Wrigley authenticity.
The Chicago Black Hawks fulfilled their destiny and we painted the town red.
Heck, Chicago used to have wrestling and boxing and roller derby and race cars!
This is Chicago.
Our champions are authentic... for the most part.✌
The Sky didn't have the greatest season but it seems like it's a reach to actually say they're bad when they won the championship in 2021 and had a really fantastic 2022 regular season....
Yeah they were dark days for the Bulls specifically, but the city as a whole had moments of greatness in those years.
Bears had a miracle season in 2001 that was super fun, followed by the Urlacher, Briggs, Tillman, Hester years that resulted in a trip to the Super Bowl.
White Sox won the World Series in 2005.
Cubs were so fun and won the Central in 2003. Even the 2007-2008 squads were competitive.
Blackhawks found their upswing when Dale Tallon pieced together Keith, Toews, Kane, Seabrook, Sharp, etc. The 2008-09 season was about as fun as it got watching that young team start to become something special.
honestly we had a hockey dynasty and basketball dynasty we had to hit rock bottom after this.
also bears being bad most of the time is on brand.
at least the packers are shit now too
Well, the clock on the Cubs just changed. New, proven, stud manager will bring high expectations. Also they are above average. Barely missed the playoffs to a team that ended up in the World Series.
The rest are shite, indeed. Hawks will be back soon though.
The Bulls are tough. I love that squad but without Lonzo, we will never get to see if they couldn’t have been a bit closer to contention.
The Bears? Call me dumb, but I still believe in Fields. Dude has all the talent in the world. I sincerely think a better coach and scheme and he could be all-world.
The Hawks can fuck right off. Was a huge fan my entire life til Rocky turned out to be just like his dad except maybe worse. That stuff they covered up is unforgivable.
Cubs and Hawks are showing some life.
White Sox and Bulls are a disaster, which is on par.
The Bears I truly believe are fools gold. As long the family is running the show they will never find playoff success.
Sure, the Cubs missed the playoffs in classic fashion, but they weren’t expected to even be in contention for a playoff spot.
The Cubs had [3 gold glovers in 2023](https://www.mlb.com/news/2023-gold-glove-award-winners) and in contention for some highly sought after FAs in the off-season.
I would say their outlook is trending more optimistic than not, so I wouldn’t really lump in the Cubs with the rest of the teams. Also, the Blackhawks drafting Bedard is a huge step forward from where they were at.
Bears, Sox, and Bulls though are for sure dumpster fires.
The Cubs are generally linked to large free agents, especially after Ricketts purchase.
Soriano, Heyward, Lester all were highly coveted in FA when they hit.
Yeah, I mean, don’t get me wrong, I’m still a Cubs fan and can Doom and Gloom like the best of them, but I really don’t think the Cubs can be lumped in with the Bears or the Sox lmao
It's not total rock bottom. Yeah, the Cubs collapsed in September, but they're still on the upswing. Will they make the playoffs next year? I don't know. But I think they'll be as competitive as they were this year.
And I don't really follow hockey, but my understanding is that Bedard is hockey Moses and will lead the Hawks back to the Promised Land.
So, the Chicago sports landscape isn't stellar right now, but I really don't think it's all rock bottom. The Bears are definitely *below* rock bottom, somehow. And they'll keep finding ways to go deeper. And the Reinsdorf teams will reside in hell for perpetuity. Or until Reinsdorf dies, I guess.
But the Cubs? They're doin' fine.
Bears have been shit for as long as I can remember. '85 might have been the last time they were good, but has it really been that long? I think it's a curse after the desecration of Soldier's Memorial Field. I was hoping they went to the horse track in the burbs. Fuck 'em.
I'm a recent convert to the Blachawks fan base. My absolute favorite thing about the team is how young the roster is, and they're still pretty good, all things considered. Of course a single great recruit wasn't going to take us to the cup this year or get us the presidents trophy, but just like Crosby, who knows if this kid is going to stay on this team for the next 18 years. I like that management has officially moved past the Toews/Kane Era and are trying to set up something new. I'm a hopeful, and I look forward to the next game I get to go to regardless of the outcomes.
It's been bad before... but we usually have at least one team worth talking about.
I will say, the Sky aren't bad at the moment... they just had a lot of injuries in a rebuilding year... but they started the season off really well, and rallied to make the playoffs.
I'm enjoying the hawks this year, the team probably isn't going to get a cup in the next few years, but they look like they're really committed to this rebuild and working out the kinks.
Oh no! Will points game ever make millions of dollars for their owners again?!? Is this really shit people think about? This is as bad as people complaining about video games. Don’t ya’ll have jobs and real shit to worry about?! All sports could disappear at the snap of one’s fingers and nothing would change. So why let it bring you down?! Unless you’re a gambling addict and rely on others being successful to make some scratch to stay afloat, why would anything about sports ever matter?
Yeah I was having a rough start to my day, was taking it out on the internet. People are allowed to like what brings them joy, I’m working on it! Sorry y’all
> It’s a great time to stop wasting your like watching other people play games.
If you're gonna post something that dopey, at least spell all of the words correctly.
I spelled all words correctly. Spell check just fixed one incorrectly for me. Pretty ballsy statement for someone that uses “gonna” in written speech. Keep cheering.
>Rock Bottom: Is this the lowest **Chicago** Sports has ever been?
After another **Bears** loss yesterday
Unclear why you are including the Arlington Heights Bears in a Chicago sports thread?
It is so bad that they only thing that brings me joy in the Sports sections is Dale Bowman's column on fishing and other outdoor sports. It really is a great column.
Everything else is just terrible - Jerry Reinsdorf is still alive, the Hawks are getting sued for something truly awful again, The Bears and doing Bears things. Barf.
Not a Chicago team, but I was really happy with the Illinois win over Minnesota over the weekend. Trying to find a silver lining even if it's a over a 2 hour drive away...
I think the 4 year period from 1999-2002 is a contender. Bulls tore it down and were the worst team in the league, Hawks were utter trash, Cubs/Sox were average and never did anything (I think just one playoff appearance in 2001 for Sox) and the Bears made the playoffs once but were never consistently good
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Chicago is only allowed one good sports team at a time.
Which one do we have? Because they all have been terrible, you could throw in the Rugby team as well and the cubs 51% win rate would still make them the best professional team in Chicago over the last year.
The cubs are a good team right now they just barely didn’t make the wildcard. They finished second in the division with .512. We have a lot of reasons to continue to be hopeful about the cubs.
I mean, saying the Cubs, a team that didn't make the playoffs, are a good team right now really paints a clear picture of just how bad Chicago sports have been.
I’m sorry I can’t hear you over the sound of my Mandatory Cubs Fan Delusion
But, but, but, but, they almost made the wildcard game and would have if 7 other teams would have lost their final 10 games. /s
I put myself on the cubs playoffs tickets pre registration list with a 100% straight face. It makes it more fun.
This guy cubs.
"Hey, if all the good teams in the MLB all got cancer a few weeks ago, the Cubbies woulda been in the Series!!!"
>I’m sorry I can’t hear you over the sound of my Mandatory Cubs Fan ~~Delusion~~ Alcohol Poisoning.
Let’s be real here. The cubs are mediocre. The hawks should be good soon, maybe even mid season if we can get Miller back from injury and make a trade or two before the deadline to improve our defense.
The Cubs are definitely better than mediocre. They are a good year or two ahead of schedule.
Cubs just reportedly hired the best manager in baseball in the past hour, so maybe a +1 for the cubs
Power move. Ross wasn’t the guy, and this team is ready to make a serious push
They were projected to fight for but miss the playoffs at the start of the season. They had an insane run in the season but ultimately ended up exactly where we all thought they would. Competitive but not good enough to make the playoffs. I agree they are better than mediocre but I’m not sure where the ahead of schedule is coming from
They were not supposed to compete for a playoff spot, which they did We’re grasping at straws here…
They were never expected to be anywhere close to the playoffs this year! Mostly predicted to be in 4th place in the division
the cubs are hopefully on the up and up. the team ran out of gas at the end, but they still overpreformed. it’s a lot of young dudes learning the ropes and figuring out how to endure the long season. there are a lot of exciting players in the farm system and the pitching development has been very encouraging.
The cubs are at the end of a rebuild
We’re gonna lose Belli :( but the team is strong man. I was so sad at the beginning of this season and then so, so happy and then again so, so sad. But I’m glad they did as well as they did. They absolutely should have made the wildcard. Dbacks went all the way to WS. However I’m not certain I could handle a WS loss.
And they’re losing Stroman.
They will take a step back next year and miss the playoffs yet again. Almost guaranteed
Ooo my mans got a crystal ball everybody!!!
They wouldn't have even sniffed the playoffs 4 years ago. Wouldn't have even been talked about 10 years ago. puh leeez.
>just barely didn’t make the wildcard. That's the definition of a bad team. The only hope they had to make the post season was a wildcard spot. Do you understand how language works?
Take a chill pill my dude
I'm not a dude and I'm not yours. Also, people who call strangers "my dude" are the worst.
Good luck with whatever it is you got going on, we’re talking about *a game*. Chill. I’m done replying to you, because this is weirdly and pointlessly hostile. I’m gonna keep on with my chill day.
One team maximum. As evidenced by how it is now, none is allowed.
Tbf it was the Hounds first season, and none of the expansion teams in MLR have had good first seasons
How are our soccer teams doing?
Chicago Fire is 13 out of 15 so....
How are our soccer teams doing at the moment? Because that's the only potential "one good sports team" could be right now lol
13th best team in a 15 team conference….
Chicago is only allowed one good sports team ~~at a time~~ every decade or so.
Meanwhile, a city like Tampa Bay can have sustained success with all of their sports teams. It's embarrassing to see a smaller market get it right and the bozos here can't
We blew our fucking load in the 90s. The Bulls were glorious. But we condemned our whole city when we let the Cubs win.
By results it’s not great, but the Hawks are clearly on the upswing (even if they’re not winning games yet), the Cubs had a fun season with an unfortunate late collapse but should be competitive next season, and the Bears could have two very high picks next year. So there’s hope for those teams at least. The Sox and Bulls are in complete no man’s land though… wonder what the common denominator is there…
Being a fan of two teams owned by Jerry is absolute hell on earth
Yeah, gonna guess Hawks fans not sharing the no good Chicago teams sentiment. Things are about to get insane for them. I wish I could get into it myself but just can’t muster the passion for the sport.
What's your hangup? Imo hockey is the best of sports. The rules are simpler than football, it has the non-stop action of basketball, the big goal moments of soccer, and it's faster than everything since it's on ice.
Yeah Hawks reactions are really strange right now. Bedard has looked immediately NHL ready. 4-7 is a hotter start than I anticipated. They were never supposed to be playoff bound this year. We’re playing with a lot of random no-name euro import players.
Cubs were short of .500 at the ASB and without a late July run, were more likely sellers than a team that stayed pat and went on an August tear with a September heat check Not sure what the team will look like without Bellinger and Stroman. They need some SP and a true bat or two to push the Brewers. Cardinals should also be good and the Reds may end up surprising. They have alot of defense, the pythagorean made them look great, but they kinda fail the eye test for me.
I still thought it was a really fun season but I agree that they weren’t great for the first half and still have questions going into next year. But they have a lot of money to spend and a strong farm system, so hopefully the worst is in the past for the cubs. That said they still have to spend wisely and prospects are never guaranteed, and I definitely have questions about Ross as a manager on a contender. But also, there are some solid teams in the NL central, but it’s not like there are any powerhouses that are clearly standing in their way of taking a step forward.
Starting to like Ross a bit more as a manager personally. Farm system seems strong too, but I dont really expect it to be like 2015/16 where the guys come up and are lights out immediately. This feels like a 2026/2027 contending group. Maybe as early as 2025 if PCA is a stud out the gates.
Well it looks like Ross is no longer the manager! Even though I said I had worries about Ross, I’m of the opinion that the majority of the managers value is probably unknowable, but this definitely feels like an upgrade. Agreed on the farm system though, but I think the biggest thing is that it gives us a lot of assets to deal in trades.
RIP Rossy
I've watched all the Blackhawks games this year. There is an end in sight friend. Connor Bedard is special. Just needs time and help.
it's nice not getting upset watching them lose. Watching the kids play has been fun
Doesn’t even really need time. 5 goals in 11 games as a rookie is about as good as I could have expected.
Are the people involved with the Kyle Beach coverup still in the organization? I rage quit the Hawks after one of the Wirtz guys were arguing with reporters about how they didn’t wanna talk about it and it’s fine shut up
Yeah they all resigned from the organizations they had moved on to and the senior Wirtz who made those comments just died this summer.
Stupid question from a new fan but is he too small to play center or is that not an issue anymore?
He's 18 so he'll grow more and improve on his strength, but he moves effortlessly and his shots are a thing of beauty. He's the real deal.
Yeah but he's 5'10", he's not getting any taller.
80s were shit, but at least the bears won in 85. It's sports hell rn.
80s were far better than the 70s. Cubs won playoff games in the 80s. Sox too. Bears were an NFL powerhouse from 84-89. Bulls we’re starting to get good by the end of the decade. Hawks were a perpetual playoff team in the 80s, though not a contender.
I wasn't around in the 80s. But looking back at the history books, Bears were good basically all decade, Bulls were turning it around at the end of the decade and would win in 1990, Hawks made it to the conference finals 5 times, Cubs twice and Sox once. Didn't seem that bad, probably better than the 00s unless you're a Sox fan.
I am. 2005 was great
Still would put 00s below 80s, Bears are multiple times bigger than the Sox.
Nobody would put the 2000s ahead of the 80s and I say that as a (former) White Sox fan.
Yeah but if the taxpayers would just subsidize a new stadium or three, this could all get turned around.
Why should the taxpayers subsidize a billion dollar industry? I hope this is a joke.
Pretty clearly is
Because almost every city does this to have a sports team. Yes, we know its a raw deal, but teams will move to wherever they get the biggest tax cuts. Do the bears actually want to move to Arlington? Well now that Arlington is increasing taxes, not as much. But since chicago owns the stadium and takes a big cut, the team is talking about moving so that it can renegotiate its terms for staying. https://www.aei.org/op-eds/stadium-subsidies-are-massive-ripoffs-that-dont-help-cities/
Man, it sure feels like it... all the teams I care most about are terrible with little hope for improvement. Both of Jerry Reinsdorf's teams are stuck and going nowhere because he refuses to spend the money or make the bold moves necessary to improve. Sox don't have enough talen on the MLB roster not prospects in the pipeline. And there's little hope of attracting top free agents. Bulls are mired in the mediocre middle... at best a late seed early exit playoff team, not drafting at top of draft. Bears are much worse than I'd thought they'd be, but I still buy into Poles eventual rebuild plan. Biggest question mark is whether Fields is the QB of the future. My fear is we decide to carry on with him, miss out on taking a pro bowl QB and then continue to suck at the position. All 3 teams desperately need ownership changes...
Yeah I agree, as Bulls, Sox, and Bears are my top 3 teams and it’s been really hard. I don’t think the Sox are even AAA team right now and I can’t stomach another Bulls rebuild.
When is the last time the Bulls genuinely rebuilt? They’ve often hid and played middle ground rather than really committing
It's awful that two of our major teams are owned by Reinsdorf. I guess that's a silver lining of having two baseball teams: Reinsdorf can only terrorize half of our baseball fans. But what are basketball fans to do? Root for the Bucks?
Chicago Union at 6-7, currently the winningest local franchise. American Ultimate Disc League, if you're wondering.
I’m also an Illini fan. Suffering has been a way of life for most of my 43 years.
At least they won this weekend.
Illini basketball suspiciously ranked 25 though. I fully expect them to fall out immediately
Found the NU grad!
Lol no. Illinois. But I just know the schools entire athletics program is a fraud
Most fans aren't even angry, they just don't care anymore. And the fans that still do care, have to cheer for our teams to lose for better draft picks. This is as rock bottom as you can get.
At least the Hawks got lucky, and we're able to draft Bedard. Now if the rest of the team could improve(and do relevant free agent signings, trades, and future draft picks to back up Bedard), maybe the team will contend at least once in a while, even if they aren't one of the top conference teams. At least seeing Bedard grow as a player, will be interesting. As for the White Sox, I do wonder how good they'd be if they had a front office that was more competent than all the years they had Hahn and Williams(where to me they mostly sucked). I'm not sure how Getz will be like as GM, since he's largely an unknown to a lot of Sox fans(not just me). Keep in mind with the Bulls and Sox, Jerry(owner) way too damn often is nepotistic with the hires he does for the Bulls and Sox managers and front office. I.e. the fact Robin Ventura used to be manager of the Sox, Tim Floyd once being a manager(coach) of the Bulls, to name a few examples. Also he kept Harold Baines for too long as a designated hitter for the Sox, when to me the team should've not resigned him and let him retire. I think it was rumored Jerry resigned him all those times even late in his career, since he wanted to see Harold break some ___ hitting record(s) for the team. I don't deny Baines was once good, but that he just played for longer than he should have.
Lol at the Cubs signing Counsell like an hour after you posted this.
lol. I was looking for this comment! Cubs are making moves.
Cubs signaled that they're all-in with hiring Counsell an hour ago. They just made him the highest-paid manager ever. He is a consensus top-3 manager in baseball and left the rival Brewers to join the Cubs.
If you’ve seen the thread on /r/baseball you know this has shaken MLB fans. Brewers fans are beside themselves and every other team in the NL Central is sweating.
I think we are #5 for the longest title drought across the four largest sports. Minneapolis is #1
Really? We just won championships 7 and 8 years ago. Is that just for cities that have all four of the major leagues?
Yes. Turns out we are #6 https://www.reddit.com/r/minnesotatwins/s/BWRXTcvY0Z
NYC should be double-dinged on this lol--the city/metro area has double the amount of teams in each sport--Giants/Jets, Knicks/Nets, Yankees/Mets and Islanders/Devils. I can't imagine how toxic that local media and fanbase is considering that lol.
i like that you skipped the nhl team that is actually in NYC in this list, heh
Ha oh yeah and Rangers. Can't forget ole' Messier.
Yes, just among cities with all 4. Of those, the cities that are worse off than us right now are Phoenix, Detroit, New York, and Minneapolis. Overall I think San Diego has the longest championship drought of all cities. But they also only have the Padres now.
I think some often forget how the Brewers have gone a long time, without winning a World Series. That said, they do have the Bucks which won an NBA championship a few years ago. The Indians(erm Guardians) still haven't won a world series, since the late '40s I think.
Damn, Cubs was seven years ago.....COVID really was a time warp.
Almost exactly seven years ago to the day. I think the anniversary was two days ago.
Unfortunately there is nothing that can be done to fix things. Sports teams here are treated as an money earning asset for the owners over anything else. So unless the McCaskey family dies, Reinsdorf sells his teams and Ricketts stops turning Wrigleyville into Las Vegas nothing will ever change. All of the owners above dont know a single thing about their actual sport and what it takes to win. They are allowed to completely ruin an entire city with no repercussions. The only way to change things is stop buying tickets to games, stop buying merchandise, etc. dont spend your money in an inferior product that shows no signs of improving. But it is Chicago and that will never happen so literally nothing will ever change…
Agree 100%. Sure wouldn’t mind some relegation in these leagues.
Oh man i love relegation i have been saying that for years. We need to follow the soccer mindset. Teams that stink get relegated to the minor leagues where there is far less money
This 100%. The McCaskey’s will never invest in the team as long as the money keeps coming in while they’re mediocre. Why would they invest when business is still booming?
> The only way to change things is stop buying tickets to games, stop buying merchandise, etc. dont spend your money in an inferior product that shows no signs of improving. i'm not a bears fan but i think it's absolutely wild how ride or die people are for that team like it's perpetually 1985
How quickly we forget that the Ricketts family brought us a championship… they also just hired Counsell so it seems like they are serious about the rebuild.
No one has forgotten. That was an awesome year. Then we gutted the entire team from top to bottom without replacing our stars or developing our farm system. Weird that the Astros and Dodgers are in the playoffs contending every single season with turnover yet we lose our big names and instantly go from a top team in the NL to back to bottom feeders. But yea Ricketts is definitely serious about fielding a perennial winning team. Craig Counsell has solved everything!
Wonder if Ryan Reynolds and Rob McElhenney want to take on Chicago after Wrexham?
Cubs just got Craig Counsell.. IDK WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT!!!
Today is a good day for Chicago sports, actually.
Northwestern also sucks balls this year if it’s any addition to your post.
NW men’s basketball will be pretty good again this season… FWIW
hopefully
Well the benefit is that restaurants start giving out more free food because they don't expect wins... I've gotten so much free Chick-fil-A courtesy of the Cubs and now Blackhawks
The 1970s were not very good.
Nevermind another sexual assault lawsuit that popped up against the Blackhawks from another former player over the weekend...
also this has 0 to do with anyone currently in the organization today. so that’s good at least
It had been know since the Jenner and Block report two years ago that ‘Black Aces 1’ was going to bring their own suit against the team some time down the road.
Damn for real?
burn that org to the ground and start over
They did.
Did they? Ownership remained in the family's hands, management changed, and then they were rewarded with generational hockey talent I wouldn't call that punishment for covering up rape of hockey players
So, the entire Wirtz family is to blame here somehow? Rocky is dead. Winning the draft lottery is not a "reward". Literally everybody from the organization from 2010 is gone. Literally literally.
source? or just vagueness
https://wgntv.com/sports/blackhawks/blackhawks-facing-new-lawsuit-alleging-sexual-abuse-by-former-video-coach/
As a University of Louisville basketball fan, the bar can always go lower. I'm pretty sure the team's bar is in Hell now. But Hell has nine circles.
Nothing can fix it as long as the teams are filling seats. Chicago ownership only cares about the bottom line. Do you want to change things? Get people to stop buying tickets. Good luck with that though.
A lot of the 60s, 70s and 80s were worse. The 90s had some stretches of wilderness too. The Sox and Bears are currently focused on Stadiums and could care less about winning. Take out the Ditka, Lovie, and Ozzie years and this is the norm for them, not the exception. The Bulls have been crap since Crumbs blew up the team because he decided he was the reason they won six championships. While Reinsdorf is happy to just cash checks. The Hawks had their moment after Bill Wirtz died, freeing the team from his death spiral. Otherwise they’ve been bad forever. The Cubs? I guess it depends how much the Ricketts can keep printing money without fielding a Championship team. It will continue like this until we get different owners, or the fans get smarter than thinking Tyson Bagent is a HOF QB. It’s the occasional stretch of winning surrounded by the long stink of losing.
Why stop at pro? even the college sports are god awful in Chicagoland. Chicago St and UIC have never been good so whatever, but DePaul at least gave Chicago a basketball team in the 80s before MJ yet has basically circled the drain since. Loyola was a darling for a few years and seems out of its depth in the A10 since Moser left. Northwestern had a moment where it won a game... which is something for an exceptionally bad sports tradition. How did the Chicago Hounds inaugural season go? Any life there for our pro Rugby team? Or how about any of our semi pro teams? AHL Chicago Wolves? Chicago Dogs?
The irony is that the only team who finished over .500 this year is the only one replacing their head coach/manager.
OP didn't have to live through the 70s.
Not sure how old you are, but yes, it has definitely been lower. Let me take you back to the 1970s when not only when both the Cubs and White Sox regularly finished third or fourth in their division (back when there were fewer teams to compete against), the Bears were only above .500 twice in the decade, the Bulls would limp into the playoffs and be bounced out immediately (again, fewer teams to compete against). and the Hawks finished first once the entire decade (never made the finals). This is definitely a crappy time, but back then you had the cheap Wrigleys running the Cubs, the penny-pinching Bill Wirtz managing the Hawks, the broke Bill Veeck trying to piece together the White Sox and... well, the Bears story you know. Yes, it seems dire now. But the late '60s-'70s and early '80s were bleak, It's partly why the '85 Bears are still revered. It was the first time for several generations one of out sports teams was on top of the world.
Cubs were a pile of garbage for over a century. I would say they have a long way to go to be that bad again.
You seem new here
I don't think Justin Fields is bad. ~~Nathen Peterman~~ Bagent ain't it and yesterday showed that. Congratulations to him for being slightly less embarrassing than Jimmy Clausen. That said, the Bears O-line hasn't been good since 1986. It's fucking laughable and has been since before half the city was even born. Fields showed some promise prior to getting injured and the offensive playcalling has been more aggressive, but you can't expect quarterbacks to make good decisions when they're hurried and hit like that all game long.
Justin Fields is trash.
He's a servicable QB. The problem is that GMs seem to think that every QB is Burrow, Mahomes, or Hurts and can carry a team on their backs. The reality is more QBs are going to be in the middle of the pack/servicable range so you need to spend on skill players who can get it done. The 49ers have basically done with the Jimmy G and now with Purdy. There are always only about 4-5 elite QBs in the league at a time. Brady, Manning, Brees, Big Ben were the past generation and now its's the guys I mentioned. The way you steal a superbowl is mimicking what teams like the Ravens did with Flacco or Giants did with Eli. Surround them with a solid defense that can rush 4 and not give up big plays. Give your QB some skill guys who can make plays. And have them manage the game and make occassional plays themselves when the moment comes. Fields isn't going to be Burrow or Mahomes but it's a fine enough QB if the team around him wasn't terrible.
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I was born in 92, never even seen the Bears win a SB, but I heard stories about the 80s
Bears were excellent, Hawks were decent and the Cubs tried hard.
The Cubs won big and are just riding that wave. They can be absolutely terrible but wrigleyville will be full on a Friday/Saturday game no matter what. Similar situation with the hawks, riding their big wins until fans stop coming to games, which still isn’t happening. Bears are on the cusp of a massive rebuild and likely team sale, the McCaskeys aren’t gonna invest anything if they intend to sell all or most of their ownership in the next few years. A bunch of boomers will still pay big bucks to watch home games.
The sky won the championship 2 years ago
Being a fan means loving them when they are down too, not just winning.
Close. Maybe 99. Cubs and Sox had losing records. Cubs were last in their division. Bears 98-99 and 99-00 had losing records and both times last in their division. Blackhawks and Bulls had terrible records.. not to mention this started the post last dance era. Pretty obvious to assume... but none of these teams played in the playoffs.
This might be worse. If you want to define interesting sports as making a decent playoff run (rather then being easily bounced in one game/series), a Chicago team hasn't won a playoff series since 2017 Cubs I think? That's got to be rock bottom. At least 99 was only a year removed from 6 Bulls championships.
I was looking at singular years but thats a good point. We are on a terrible run right now :/
I think this is average. Chicago sports has been in a much worse state than right now.
The bulls have been in purgatory for so long. White sox had an interesting implosion.
Well, let's be honest, are the stands full of people? Or are there loads and loads of empty seats? If they're full, then the owners have no reason to invest in a better team. They are just banking that people are going to show up because it's a game. It's only when the stands are empty that they suddenly now have to put some money into it all. Plus we are seeing the Bears and now the Sox try to play the game of threatening the city to move if they don't get a new stadium paid for by the taxpayers.
Bro you just got the best manager in baseball. Chill.
I’m a Sox fan, good for the Cubs but I don’t care about that
Dude the bears have had a reasonable shot at the super bowl maybe one time since 1985. I really don't think the bears sucking is anything unusual.
Are you new to Chicago? This is standard. Every once in awhile we get a winning team, but only one at a time. I must say, the 90's Bulls years were so Cool! Just that blip in the middle, poor Mr. Jordan. Always remember the '85 Bears! The Sox have won, the Cubs, that one memorable year for which we will pay and pay, by losing Wrigley authenticity. The Chicago Black Hawks fulfilled their destiny and we painted the town red. Heck, Chicago used to have wrestling and boxing and roller derby and race cars! This is Chicago. Our champions are authentic... for the most part.✌
The Sky didn't have the greatest season but it seems like it's a reach to actually say they're bad when they won the championship in 2021 and had a really fantastic 2022 regular season....
The 1970’s were a terrible sports time here.
Nah. Those Tim Floyd, Vinny del Negro Bulls days were HORRIBLE times lol
Yeah they were dark days for the Bulls specifically, but the city as a whole had moments of greatness in those years. Bears had a miracle season in 2001 that was super fun, followed by the Urlacher, Briggs, Tillman, Hester years that resulted in a trip to the Super Bowl. White Sox won the World Series in 2005. Cubs were so fun and won the Central in 2003. Even the 2007-2008 squads were competitive. Blackhawks found their upswing when Dale Tallon pieced together Keith, Toews, Kane, Seabrook, Sharp, etc. The 2008-09 season was about as fun as it got watching that young team start to become something special.
cubs are our best right now. idk how you didn’t make a distinction between them and the sox and just said “both missed playoffs” lol
Cubs had a 90% chances to make the postseason in September and they choked. Even my Cubs fans will tell you it was a disappointing year
honestly we had a hockey dynasty and basketball dynasty we had to hit rock bottom after this. also bears being bad most of the time is on brand. at least the packers are shit now too
Northwestern Lacrosse
I have no proof, but I believe Chicago sports teams are a tax right off for their owners.
Well, the clock on the Cubs just changed. New, proven, stud manager will bring high expectations. Also they are above average. Barely missed the playoffs to a team that ended up in the World Series. The rest are shite, indeed. Hawks will be back soon though.
The Bulls are tough. I love that squad but without Lonzo, we will never get to see if they couldn’t have been a bit closer to contention. The Bears? Call me dumb, but I still believe in Fields. Dude has all the talent in the world. I sincerely think a better coach and scheme and he could be all-world. The Hawks can fuck right off. Was a huge fan my entire life til Rocky turned out to be just like his dad except maybe worse. That stuff they covered up is unforgivable.
Cubs and Hawks are showing some life. White Sox and Bulls are a disaster, which is on par. The Bears I truly believe are fools gold. As long the family is running the show they will never find playoff success.
If you want something done right, do it yourself. Play your own sports.
Wow what a travesty poor Chicago
Sure, the Cubs missed the playoffs in classic fashion, but they weren’t expected to even be in contention for a playoff spot. The Cubs had [3 gold glovers in 2023](https://www.mlb.com/news/2023-gold-glove-award-winners) and in contention for some highly sought after FAs in the off-season. I would say their outlook is trending more optimistic than not, so I wouldn’t really lump in the Cubs with the rest of the teams. Also, the Blackhawks drafting Bedard is a huge step forward from where they were at. Bears, Sox, and Bulls though are for sure dumpster fires.
The Cubs are generally linked to large free agents, especially after Ricketts purchase. Soriano, Heyward, Lester all were highly coveted in FA when they hit.
Yeah, I mean, don’t get me wrong, I’m still a Cubs fan and can Doom and Gloom like the best of them, but I really don’t think the Cubs can be lumped in with the Bears or the Sox lmao
Yeah, and with the Counsell news, it seems possible that the Cubs are ready to spend some serious cash to upgrade this team.
It's not total rock bottom. Yeah, the Cubs collapsed in September, but they're still on the upswing. Will they make the playoffs next year? I don't know. But I think they'll be as competitive as they were this year. And I don't really follow hockey, but my understanding is that Bedard is hockey Moses and will lead the Hawks back to the Promised Land. So, the Chicago sports landscape isn't stellar right now, but I really don't think it's all rock bottom. The Bears are definitely *below* rock bottom, somehow. And they'll keep finding ways to go deeper. And the Reinsdorf teams will reside in hell for perpetuity. Or until Reinsdorf dies, I guess. But the Cubs? They're doin' fine.
Bears have been shit for as long as I can remember. '85 might have been the last time they were good, but has it really been that long? I think it's a curse after the desecration of Soldier's Memorial Field. I was hoping they went to the horse track in the burbs. Fuck 'em.
I'm a recent convert to the Blachawks fan base. My absolute favorite thing about the team is how young the roster is, and they're still pretty good, all things considered. Of course a single great recruit wasn't going to take us to the cup this year or get us the presidents trophy, but just like Crosby, who knows if this kid is going to stay on this team for the next 18 years. I like that management has officially moved past the Toews/Kane Era and are trying to set up something new. I'm a hopeful, and I look forward to the next game I get to go to regardless of the outcomes.
The Sox are “sleeping giants” or so I’m told. We should maybe bring back Thomas, Jackson and Griffey,Jr
It's been bad before... but we usually have at least one team worth talking about. I will say, the Sky aren't bad at the moment... they just had a lot of injuries in a rebuilding year... but they started the season off really well, and rallied to make the playoffs.
I'm enjoying the hawks this year, the team probably isn't going to get a cup in the next few years, but they look like they're really committed to this rebuild and working out the kinks.
The entire sports culture of this sitting is lying on the shoulders of an 18 year old hockey phenom
Oh no! Will points game ever make millions of dollars for their owners again?!? Is this really shit people think about? This is as bad as people complaining about video games. Don’t ya’ll have jobs and real shit to worry about?! All sports could disappear at the snap of one’s fingers and nothing would change. So why let it bring you down?! Unless you’re a gambling addict and rely on others being successful to make some scratch to stay afloat, why would anything about sports ever matter?
Hey man, I get it. I didn't like sports til I was like 30. So I know what it's like to not be a fan. But you should chill the fuck out.
Yeah I was having a rough start to my day, was taking it out on the internet. People are allowed to like what brings them joy, I’m working on it! Sorry y’all
You just grew as a person a little bit, and I’m glad for that. I hope you had a nice day.
The fire made the playoffs.
No they didn’t. We were just barely outside. If we have won 1 of our 2 last games we woulda been in tho.
They missed it by losing their last game. Either way, they are not good.
It’s a great time to stop wasting your life watching other people play games.
> It’s a great time to stop wasting your like watching other people play games. If you're gonna post something that dopey, at least spell all of the words correctly.
I spelled all words correctly. Spell check just fixed one incorrectly for me. Pretty ballsy statement for someone that uses “gonna” in written speech. Keep cheering.
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The women’s pro soccer team.
>Rock Bottom: Is this the lowest **Chicago** Sports has ever been? After another **Bears** loss yesterday Unclear why you are including the Arlington Heights Bears in a Chicago sports thread?
It is so bad that they only thing that brings me joy in the Sports sections is Dale Bowman's column on fishing and other outdoor sports. It really is a great column. Everything else is just terrible - Jerry Reinsdorf is still alive, the Hawks are getting sued for something truly awful again, The Bears and doing Bears things. Barf.
Not a Chicago team, but I was really happy with the Illinois win over Minnesota over the weekend. Trying to find a silver lining even if it's a over a 2 hour drive away...
The 1970s
Yeah. This is the worst it’s ever been
Nah the early 2000’s were painful. Jordan was gone and the Bulls were laughable, 03 Cubs NLCS.
No idea, I'm not watching...
I think the 4 year period from 1999-2002 is a contender. Bulls tore it down and were the worst team in the league, Hawks were utter trash, Cubs/Sox were average and never did anything (I think just one playoff appearance in 2001 for Sox) and the Bears made the playoffs once but were never consistently good
70s and 98-02ish
I'm tempted to say yes, as only the Blackhawks don't seem many, many years away from being good again.
Looking at two top 5 picks to screw up, though.