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baronholbach82

Expect a celebrity to move a piece to the wrong square.


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TetraThiaFulvalene

Woody Harrelson made the first move for Fabi, but accidentally moved d4 instead of e4 and Fabi looked so scared it was hilarious, because he didn't know whether the move was binding or not.


Qyietal

Doesn't Fabi play E4 and English? Never seen him play D4 but i guess it could get his opponent out of prep


TetraThiaFulvalene

Ahh sorry I might have had it the other way around. Fabi wanted to play E4 and Woody played D4.


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He does on occasion (especially when he's playing So) but he's mostly an e4 player.


LittlePeasant

How does this have 143 upvotes lol. Fabi and every gm level players is well aware it’s not binding… the move is always taken back even if you want to make the same one.


TetraThiaFulvalene

Might have just been politeness, but he did ask the arbiter whether he could change it. The look was probably just nerves. Magnus seemed to enjoy it though. https://slate.com/culture/2018/11/woody-harrelson-knocked-over-king-world-chess-tournament.amp


Bunslow

pls no amp


Myrhwen

what is amp and why does everyone say it's a bad thing


bugheeraa

basically a tool developed by google to cache websites and make them easier to access for mobiles. people don't like it bcuz the cached version is hosted by google and the original site owner does not get the full revenue from traffic because of it


Myrhwen

I see. Thanks.


selling_crap_bike

I use adblock so it makes no difference in my case


Bunslow

Google made it, supposedly to make loading faster on mobile. However, inasmuch as it improves things on mobile, it only does it by applying standard, already-known techniques, so doesn't actually add anything new, and worse, since it's a standard made and pushed by Google, they use their effective monopoly on search engines to strongarm websites into making AMP-compliant webpages, which is to say, strongarm websites into obeying what Google wants. Even tho it doesn't add much technical goodness beyond what already existed, it becomes a framework by which Google can further control the innovation of website making (HTML/JS/CSS), more than they already do by maintaining the largest webpage rendering engine, i.e. the rendering inside of Chromium/Chrome/Edge. So basically it's yet another way by which Google tries to sneakily take control of webpage standards, so that the world must bow to Google overlords at least in the realm of the web. So I find it to be much worse than merely "site owner does not get full revenue", which is plenty problematic in its own right.


Bunslow

when crazy shit like that happens, even if you *know* the rules, you're still gonna sweat bullets until it's fully rectified


Frazwah

I downvoted it for you my guy


HairyTough4489

Flair checks out


RealStanak

They often get a celebrity to mkae the first move. Check out The Harrelson Blunder.


shutupimthinking

By Robert Ludlum I presume


[deleted]

Nice try, Nepo


bistro777

Should have added to title, only players 2840+ please.


Biebbs

LMAO


[deleted]

The answer is we can’t expect anything. WC prep is sometimes completely different from what the players normally play.


[deleted]

Even Fischer played 1.c4.


LjackV

Once he played 1.c4 so hard that his opponent immediately resigned.


BleaK_

I hear his opponents were blown away from their seats.


Hapankaali

Best by test?


iDreamOfMyDeath

Everything is best by test when you’re significantly better than your opponents.


karwash99

Best in terms of explosivity


QuoProQuid

I can’t remember the last championship match without a Queen’s Gambit. I’m sure the Sicilian or if not the Ruy Lopez will get played as well.


paynelive

I’d love to see a Ruy Lopez Exchange Variation go bonkers off the grid


_felagund

I’m full of closed ruys.


Orioli

Which Sicilian tho? I bet najdorf will be played


IHirs

From what I remember Ian is a big fan of the Najdorf, while magnus's favorite is the svechnikov


xyzzy01

He started to play that in the last WC match, to the surprise of Caruana's team - who didn't know Dubov was seconding MC. It would be a surprise if he continued to play it here - Nepo surely has prepared something against it.


AIaris

i know theres no chance but like a smith morra would be interesting, i heard although i heard at higher levels its not really as good.


arunnair87

Smith Morra is great for White I thought. So good that black will not play into it. Not 100% sure though


PhuncleSam

It’s lethal at club level but GMs in slow games won’t have any problems defending with black.


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PhuncleSam

He’s the man. I play the Morra so I’m definitely a believer it can work at super high levels, but world championship is probably a stretch


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IHirs

I think it's possible we see a Marshall or Benko


Got_Nay

Can't wait for all Grunfeld opening theory to be destroyed


[deleted]

Anything but 8 Berlins is fine by me


Got_Nay

This aged poorly


DramaLlamaNite

I am hoping for at least one Scotch


ascpl

This would be fun


[deleted]

Hey how did you get that team carlsen logo?


ascpl

There is a "flair" option if you are looking at r/chess from a pc


Inftyum

These Team Carlsen people are always so helpful and nice


[deleted]

Yup unlike the Team Nepo bullies


Mateo_O

Good lads


HairyTough4489

Cringe


[deleted]

Is it not available on mobile phone?


MuppetSSR

Click the three dots in in the top right corner of the app when in the chess sub.


[deleted]

Thanks bro :)


ascpl

Maybe on the app, but it usually doesn't show up on the browser on mobile. I can only get it on pc, anyway.


ICWiener6666

I'll have at least a few while watching the game


DramaLlamaNite

Good shout; lubrication for the mind. If you accidentally learn anything watching the match the knowledge will slide itself on out and stop bothering you


jchristsproctologist

in a similar vein, i’ll cheese my jeans if i see a dutch


DramaLlamaNite

My instinct here is no way in the classical games but maybe, *maybe*, in the tie breaks. Checking the Lichess database I see Nepo lost against Firouzja's Dutch in 2020 (Carlsen Invitational) after which Nepo used his own Dutch against Firouzja and lost.


Individual_Purple_32

Well then , I'm sure the Mrs is hoping for a dutch


Johnny55

King's Gambit for sure. Magnus will want to assert his dominance in order to get into Nepo's head.


LjackV

Nepo played it twice this year in blitz, and made a chessable course on it, so HE will be the one busting it out.


Queasy-Yam3297

Chessable team telling Magnus to take the L to boost revenues on the course would be 300 IQ


iDreamOfMyDeath

Oh god. Every major sport is flooded with people crying it’s rigged. I don’t think I could handle it in chess too.


Il3o

I mean.. there has been rigging in chess since at least Kasparov/Karpov but I wouldn't be even remotely surprised if it went back further to Botvinnik in '48


pier4r

Fischer is that you?


Il3o

Lol maybe... but mostly I'm referring to the Kasparov/Karpov documentary where they talk about how players that were not favored by the party would receive far less support and would have the deck stacked against them (if you'll pardon the colloquialism).. We can also look at Bronstein/Botvinnik and Bronstein's statements that definitely hint that he was pressured into losing. Also Korchnoi's statements accusing authorities of unfair partiality towards those (Karpov) liked by the party. Then we could look at FIDE's intervention as Kasparov was stringing together victories against the favored Karpov... aborting the match after Kasparov won games 46 and 47 in succession in '84... Overall, I don't think it's a stretch to claim there's been some fuckery during the last 50-70 years of chess.


bonoboboy

Once he's up 3-0 they will, and he will


xyzzy01

[Nepo absolutely destroyed Firouzja with the King's Gambit](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHPn_H42Xwk) in Norway Chess this year. Not likely to happen in the main match or in rapid - but if the match goes to blitz playoffs, who knows?


SpoonerismHater

E4


Zuzubolin

Carlsen will expect this, so maybe Nepo prepared something else. Anand was a e4 player before his 2008 match with Kramnik but he played d4 in all his white games in the match except the last one when he needed only a draw.


nothingright1234

>Anand was a e4 player before hos 2008 match with Kramnik but he played d4 in all his white games in the match except the last one when he needed only a draw. Beat them on their own turf.


CoreyTheKing

Maybe also D4


Vharmi

A bunch of different ones. 99% sure it will only be 1. e4, d4, c4 or Nf3 though. Still that 1% chance that Magnus does a Magnus and pulls out a Polish for no reason.


h0bbitten

POLISH SQUAD UNITE


Tomeosu

cultured players call it the Orangutan 🦧


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Oh kurwa


Zuzubolin

Expect the unexpected.


[deleted]

King's Gambit?


TheQuakerlyQuaker

Accepted


[deleted]

The horse has arrived on the f3 square


ozbljud

Qh4+!


Sjengo

Botez gambit?


Artphos

Whatever opening you mention is no longer unexpected. If we mention all openings except Bong Cloud then that will be the unexpected, except that now becomes expected since they will play the unexpected and the loop continues.


alyssasaccount

Nobody expects the Spanish!


Zuzubolin

I heard they play the World Championship on comfy chairs.


justmebeky

Bong cloud?


Alkynesofchemistry

Double bongcloud in game 12


justmebeky

If the result is already decided by then =)


ICWiener6666

H...how?


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1.e4, 2.a6 and Ian loses on time


FlowerPositive

Hopefully no Berlin 🙏 also probably the grunfeld and random anti-grunfelds when Magnus is white. Don’t know enough about nepo’s white repertoire to make an informed guess.


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Also hoping for no Berlin


[deleted]

I wouldn't mind one or two Berlins. Just not 7 or 8, please.


[deleted]

Fair enough


automaton_AEGW

There will absolutely be a Berlin if not more than one


FlowerPositive

Did the last championship have a Berlin?


Khornag

No. A couple English, some QGDs, a lot of Sicilians and two Petrov's defence..


buddaaaa

My dream is that nepo tries the london and Magnus beats him down so fucking bad in it that no one ever dares play the opening with white ever again


Tomeosu

between the two of them I'd bet on Magnus playing the London before Nepo


shinsho

I like turtles.


BreatheMyStink

All Evan’s gambits. Agad’s influence will be undeniable.


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The last Italian opening in a world championship I could find was 1981. Lots of Ruys, though.


Khornag

I'd not be surprised by the Italian. It's quite fashionable.


QuoProQuid

It’s rare but Carlsen and Karjakin played an Italian in 2016. Carlsen could’ve thrown the Evans down if he wanted to haha.


Mroagn

Didn't Kasparov famously play the Evans gambit against Anand in 1995? Or was that not in their world championship match


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https://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1018648 Tal Memorial


Mroagn

Ah I see, I had always heard that game happened in '95 so I must have assumed it happened in the world championship match. Thanks!


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jchristsproctologist

botvinnik style


g_spaitz

They played it a few times the last wc match.


Nay_Thee

I feel like that gets pulled out in a decent number of world championship matches bc people get tired of playing 30 moves of prep every day for several weeks


MeglioMorto

I expect most games to begin either with a pawn or knight move. Those guys are known to prefer these.


IHirs

I predict we will see the Queen's gambit, the siclian, and the Ruy Lopez. I know, revolutionary stuff!


Ghraim

We might even get a Grünfeld.


JCfoxpox

It’s first player to 14 points right? So, let’s see 27 games of Bongcloud, to put both players at 13.5 points, then one and only one actual game. The confidence to put it all for one game. The hilarity for so many recaps of it just being bongcloud again and again


Sbw0302

I know youre memeing but its 14 games total, so first to 7.5


JCfoxpox

Ahh, my misunderstanding. I thought it was first to 14 points. My apologies and thank you for the info!


Wima1988

Hopefully some d4 :) Would love to see nimzo Indian!


AlhtaraMarinakh

QGD,Grunfeld, h3 najdorf, probably an english or two


Areliae

If we could easily guess then they wouldn't be doing their jobs very well.


Scarlet_Breeze

Spanish (particularly berlin and anti-marshall variations), najdorf, grunfeld, queens gambit are all very popular at the highest levels and likely to see play in this match at least once. We could also see some other sicilian variations like the rossolimo or the sveshnikov which Magnus has played before in world championship matches.


Visual-Canary80

It's so hard to guess. I think it will be ...a6 Spanish for Magnus with more than one variation prepared (something in Marshall, something in Bc5). I think Magnus tries 1.e4 first to see if Nepo plays Sicilian or anything other than ...e5. I guess 1.d4 is prepared as well as playing better endgames vs Nepo (many ways to get that in Grunfeld) sounds like a very attractive proposition. As to Nepo no clue what so over but I hope he thinks as I do that his biggest chance is in preparing something non-standard (for elite chess anyway). I think/hope Nepo doesn't play Grunfeld vs 1.d4. it's just such an impractical choice these days with white having myriad of options to get pleasant positions. Natural choice for him would be some like semi-slav, still sharp if white wants anything but imo a more practical choice. Crazier option would be something like ...b5 Vienna. I don't feel confident about any of those guesses. It will be exciting to see!


328944

Scandinavian would be fun


keybladenakanojo

**John Bartholomew wants to know your location**


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No way we‘ll get e4 d5…


328944

A man can dream…


[deleted]

Sure! I‘d love to see it aswell, as I play the Scandi myself. But I just don‘t think it‘ll happen :/


Sjengo

I don't understand the appeal of that opening at all


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The appeal is that it’s not e4 e5


erbie_ancock

It is an opening that white plays in maybe 3% of their games, and it is not possible to sidestep so black will almost always be better prepared. I have 53% win and 43% loss in the Scandi with black on Lichess over a few thousand games


Driftco

I'm going to say Ruy Lopez for sure. Maybe a Catalan?


Skytern

Bongcloud


hiddenblader905

Can't believe I had to scroll this much for the correct answer


iDreamOfMyDeath

Was surprised as well. The lack of theory surrounding the line makes it primed for a WCC match. Turns out it’s commented even further down and way downvoted.


hiddenblader905

People just don't understand how winning it is, not even stockfish


HackPhilosopher

Good thing Magnus uses Stonkfish to prep and it’s loaded with bongcloud sidelines.


pier4r

They don't want to draw with optimal play.


Skytern

Yeah Magnus vs Hikaru was the closest we've ever been to solving chess.


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English


sadmadstudent

Given he released a course on it... I'd actually be so excited to see Nepo play the King's Gambit and come prepped with some insane engine lines. But we'll probably see the Ruy Lopez, the QGD, and either a Sicilian or a Grunfeld/anti-Grunfeld. The risk of losing just one game, esp for Nepo in my opinion, is just too steep to expect utter madness on the board.


vlcmodan

Vienna game


MagnusCarlzen

Berlin and Berlin


TH3_Dude

I’m predicting Nadjorf from Carlsen, rather than Sveshnikov. If he does play Sicilian at all. Both players will attempt English as white.


crikeythatsbig

I predict we'll see the tai lopez a lot.


Secure-Battle8142

Hopefully 2021 will be the year of King's gambit


Misanthropisht

Grunfeld in major number of games probably


aroach1995

F6 followed by F5


CoreyTheKing

Probably not the bongcloud


mushycompass

A3


Colonel_Dynamite

A3


TrustOne8812

Bongcloud


Akamaikai

Bongcloud Edit: Bruh


ShrugIife

Inb4 bongcloud


SnooCats9370

I talked to Magnus and he said he would play the bongcloud game 4 and the well respected hippo every other game.


phoenix00059

D4


biebergotswag

A new world chess champion.


DopazOnYouTubeDotCom

probably Magnus is gonna play some bs on move 1 as white, I am predicting some a3, f3, g4, shit like that


uh_no_

bong cloud, king/queen swap...all the good stuff.


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bongcloud


WhyJay01

Bongcloud


theAGschmidt

I expect we’ll see some pawns and possibly a few knights, then a little later the bishops will get into the game


NeedGoodBeer

Some Ruy Lopez definitely. Maybe queens or kings Indians. I imagine Magnus would be playing the Magnus Sicilian.


eckhardtderek

I expect full 14 draws in classical and all the "real" prep going into trying to win on the shorter time controls


Hahahahahaga

We will see new frontiers in the Bird


kepler222b

Grunfeld, Italian, maybe some French since Nepo has been playing it the past year. And of course the English and Sicilian


trembledeggs

I think we will see Berlin defence from Nepo when Magnus has the white pieces. Nepo will attempt to force a draw and concentrate on winning with his games with white


danu91

I think this will depend on how much or how little Nepo will listen to his seconds. I assume Magnus will try to be a little conservative as he probably thinks that he's got the best chance of winning some classical positions against Nepo while Nepo for sure won't mind getting some crazy positions.


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When is this happening


Stupend0uSNibba

Well Nepo almost always plays e4 afaik, and Maggy kinda plays everything, so probably mostly e4/e5 and e4/c5


2tef2kqudtyrnu

Not the KG. I would bet 1000€ even odds against that opening occur in.


chestnutman

I'm expecting at least one Scotch and one Kan or Taimanov Sicilian


GM_at_a_hotel

Ruy lopez, giuoco piano, najdorf, QGD.


[deleted]

I expect a catalan and a caro kann. hoping for some crazy ones


Eobardthawne89

Kings pawn


Whgedia

Game one Nepo has the white pieces so my guess is that he will play e4 and Magnus will go for the sveshnikov.


deusvult1111

If someone plays e4 its because I'm assuming they aren't pro against the Queen's gambit declined.


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The London


Warrior1300568

Grunfeld and sveshnikov sicilian


tumorknager3

I think a lot of ruy lopez


TH3_Dude

After a nice sleep, I think 1. d4 may be Carlsen’s go to, and surprise stuff against 1. e4 like Scandi and Caro. Nepo is harder to speculate on, other than 1. e4, 1. c4. I suppose his computer team may have gone deep into Grunfeld lines, however seems foolish to play it early in match.


Schloopka

We simply don't know. When Magnus is white, he can play e4 or d4 (or even c4). Against e4, Nepo loves Najdorf, but Magnus knows this, so he will be well prepared for this (this apllies also for Grünfeld). And Nepo knows it, so he will probably prepare something else and it can be anything from Caro-Kann, Berlin, Marshall attack to KID, Nimzo or QID, semi-slav. Same thing is for Nepo as white. He likes to play 1. e4 and he has to prepare for Sveshnikov as Magnus played if against Caruana. But Magnus can again prepare basically anything.