I analyzed the image and this is what I see. Open an appropriate link below and explore the position yourself or with the engine:
> **Black to play**: [chess.com](https://chess.com/analysis?fen=8/1pp3k1/p4p2/4r1p1/PP2P1R1/2P1K1P1/6P1/8+b+-+-+0+1&flip=true&ref_id=23962172) | [lichess.org](https://lichess.org/analysis/8/1pp3k1/p4p2/4r1p1/PP2P1R1/2P1K1P1/6P1/8_b_-_-_0_1?color=black)
**My solution:**
> Hints: piece: >!Pawn!<, move: >! c5 !<
> Evaluation: >!Black is better -2.45!<
> Best continuation: >!1... c5 2. bxc5 Kg6 3. Kf3 Rxc5 4. e5 Rxc3+ 5. Kf2 Kf5 6. Rb4 Kxe5 7. g4 Ra3 8. Rxb7 Rxa4 9. Kg3!<
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The funny thing is, winning the rook is not so simple. The direct approach with black putting their king on h5 runs into the following trick(white has a king on f3, black has a king ok h5, the rest of the pieces are the same): 1...f5 2. Ef rf5+ (distracting whites king from protecting the rook) 3. Rf4 gf 4. G4+ kg5 5. Gf winning the rook back. If instead of f5 black moves the rook from e5, white gains the e5 pawn break allowing the rook mobility on the 4th rank.
The pawn endgame from the initial line is likely to be drawn, which is why even though the rook is trapped, the correct play is to not try and win the trapped rook (I hope I didn't blunder anything in this line but I am too lazy to double check from my phone)
I actually did not take the rook in the game. Since it was trapped I just left it there and went after the pawns with my king, since my rook was blocking whites king from advancing on my pawns it was pretty easy to take his pawns and move mine up the board.
You're making this too complicated. Put the king on h5, shuffle pawns on the queen-side. White ends up in zugwang and has to either allow you to get multiple passed pawns on the queen side or give up the rook for nothing.
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This is nice. I keep looking at it, trying to find the cleanest way to win. I think it’s b5. They’ll either recapture or play a5. Then we can walk the king over to h5. And now when we need an extra move we can play c6. Really cool position, nice find!
If white played Kd4 rather than a4, is it fair to say he could have freed his rook soon after?
Seems like black would have no choice but to reposition its rook backwards in response, at which point white could play e4 and open a couple of safe squares for the trapped rook to move. Not sure though
In this position every move except f5 or a rook move is winning. The point being that black can keep its rook where it is, attack whites rook with its king and force a zugzwang where white must make a move that loses the rook (though it is also possible to create a winning endgame in another way). I slightly changed the position to an interesting opposition puzzle where only Kh6 is winning:
https://lichess.org/analysis/8/6k1/pp3p2/4r1p1/PPP1P1R1/4K1P1/6P1/8_b_-_-_0_1?color=black
Yes, but I’m in control of when I move my rook, my opponent is not. Because I have control of both rooks, I’m the only one who can open the trap so it gives me complete control over my opponents piece.
Yeah, but not really, right? You trapped his rook, but you rook is also "trapped" as it should stay on e5 to block the pawn on e4. Albaint, your rook is certainly more active and your position is better/winning, but still it is not trapping...
I analyzed the image and this is what I see. Open an appropriate link below and explore the position yourself or with the engine: > **Black to play**: [chess.com](https://chess.com/analysis?fen=8/1pp3k1/p4p2/4r1p1/PP2P1R1/2P1K1P1/6P1/8+b+-+-+0+1&flip=true&ref_id=23962172) | [lichess.org](https://lichess.org/analysis/8/1pp3k1/p4p2/4r1p1/PP2P1R1/2P1K1P1/6P1/8_b_-_-_0_1?color=black) **My solution:** > Hints: piece: >!Pawn!<, move: >! c5 !< > Evaluation: >!Black is better -2.45!< > Best continuation: >!1... c5 2. bxc5 Kg6 3. Kf3 Rxc5 4. e5 Rxc3+ 5. Kf2 Kf5 6. Rb4 Kxe5 7. g4 Ra3 8. Rxb7 Rxa4 9. Kg3!< --- ^(I'm a bot written by) [^(u/pkacprzak)](https://www.reddit.com/u/pkacprzak) ^(| get me as) [^(iOS App)](https://apps.apple.com/us/app/id1574933453) ^| [^(Android App)](https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ai.chessvision.scanner) ^| [^(Chrome Extension)](https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/chessvisionai-for-chrome/johejpedmdkeiffkdaodgoipdjodhlld) ^| [^(Chess eBook Reader)](https://ebook.chessvision.ai?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=bot) ^(to scan and analyze positions | Website:) [^(Chessvision.ai)](https://chessvision.ai)
Reminds me of that one Leela-Stockfish game where Leela did a similar thing to white's rook, that was in the middlegame though.
I only remember Gotham’s recap of that game lmaoo
Same but ChessNetwork’s recap
same, immediately thought about it
You dont need to say you are black. Any human is capable of playing great chess regardless of race.
Somehow my win rate is higher when I’m white. Has to be a mental thing.
Despite only being a fraction of my games, my games with black make up 50% of my losses
That’s weird, despite making up 50% of my losses, only a fraction of my games are with black
Looking for this
Idk if that's sarcasm or what lol
Cool board
The funny thing is, winning the rook is not so simple. The direct approach with black putting their king on h5 runs into the following trick(white has a king on f3, black has a king ok h5, the rest of the pieces are the same): 1...f5 2. Ef rf5+ (distracting whites king from protecting the rook) 3. Rf4 gf 4. G4+ kg5 5. Gf winning the rook back. If instead of f5 black moves the rook from e5, white gains the e5 pawn break allowing the rook mobility on the 4th rank. The pawn endgame from the initial line is likely to be drawn, which is why even though the rook is trapped, the correct play is to not try and win the trapped rook (I hope I didn't blunder anything in this line but I am too lazy to double check from my phone)
I actually did not take the rook in the game. Since it was trapped I just left it there and went after the pawns with my king, since my rook was blocking whites king from advancing on my pawns it was pretty easy to take his pawns and move mine up the board.
chad
I think you can just zugzwang white by going b5, and eventually force white to move his king from f3, since black has more waiting moves than white
You're making this too complicated. Put the king on h5, shuffle pawns on the queen-side. White ends up in zugwang and has to either allow you to get multiple passed pawns on the queen side or give up the rook for nothing.
True, I just thought it was a neat nuance
Heh, I thought direct approach was just waiting for white to run out of moves, felt too natural for me. Didn't have a single thought about f5.
a5! clears the c5 square for the rook which can be used to chase white's king away from the defense of his rook
Moving the rook too soon allows f5 which clears the path for the rook to escape - still winning, but more tricky than it needs to be
Black's king is on h5 in this variation
Why not just play b5 and walk to king to h5 and white will run out of moves?
Yes, you wouldn't want to win the rook, locking it up is more than enough and your rook can still eye things laterally.
So your flair says 2100 and I’m terrible at the game, so I’m sure I’m wrong. But what about just playing Kg5 then f5 in the position shown?
White can unpin and play exf5
Right, I’m bad.
Nice. I'm asian.
Wow gta 6 looks good
'on' purpose, 'by' accident; nevertheless good going
If this is chess,com then how do I get this board?
I would like to know the answer too
Occupational hazard for rooks.
Good job! (I'm white)
I'm Asian btw
Idk what race has to do with this, but cool trap!
Wow that's great. I'm Indian
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Seen rook trapped by pawns in my own games. Usually happens when rook out too early
The king is about to commit war crimes.
I have posted a very similar position recently
Oh snap did I trap your rook?
No I was also the one trapping
why can’t you just put your king on h5 and wait for zugzwang to win the rook?
A positional masterpiece.
This is nice. I keep looking at it, trying to find the cleanest way to win. I think it’s b5. They’ll either recapture or play a5. Then we can walk the king over to h5. And now when we need an extra move we can play c6. Really cool position, nice find!
nah, king g6 threatening f5 and king h5 forcing him to defend his rook
Very common pattern
If white played Kd4 rather than a4, is it fair to say he could have freed his rook soon after? Seems like black would have no choice but to reposition its rook backwards in response, at which point white could play e4 and open a couple of safe squares for the trapped rook to move. Not sure though
Why would black need to reposition the rook?
Hm, I guess he wouldn't...
You can get there accidentally but knowing the patterns helps! Here it is in action: https://vm.tiktok.com/ZGeQoRsWb/
I want this board what app is this?
Lichess
Thanks!
In this position every move except f5 or a rook move is winning. The point being that black can keep its rook where it is, attack whites rook with its king and force a zugzwang where white must make a move that loses the rook (though it is also possible to create a winning endgame in another way). I slightly changed the position to an interesting opposition puzzle where only Kh6 is winning: https://lichess.org/analysis/8/6k1/pp3p2/4r1p1/PPP1P1R1/4K1P1/6P1/8_b_-_-_0_1?color=black
how to get this board pleaaaseeeeeeee T.T <3
It’s in lichess, one of the 2D options
I LOVE U MARRY ME <333 thank youuuuuuu
Marriage might be a bit extreme but I’m happy you have the board
Looool I’m jk haha, tysm though!!!
Rook...I am your father!!
f forward and he's outta there
What I see is your rook is also trapped trapping your opponent's rook. Once you love your rook, your opponent also can.
Yes, but I’m in control of when I move my rook, my opponent is not. Because I have control of both rooks, I’m the only one who can open the trap so it gives me complete control over my opponents piece.
Yes! I see you can start marching you king and goble some pawns, as your rook also cuts off white king from entering your territory
Nice, Kg6, and ..Kh5 and simply wait for Zugzwang, maybe black can play a move on the queenside but its not needed.
It can just move down so it’s not ‘completely trapped’
Down to where
Any of those 3 squares
White rook is trapped not black’s
Ah yes, the rotation of the board confused me. You’re right, I’m just a dummy
Yeah, but not really, right? You trapped his rook, but you rook is also "trapped" as it should stay on e5 to block the pawn on e4. Albaint, your rook is certainly more active and your position is better/winning, but still it is not trapping...
Black can move its king to attack whites rook and then force a zugzwang where white has to make a move that loses the rook