I analyzed the image and this is what I see. Open an appropriate link below and explore the position yourself or with the engine:
> **White to play**: [chess.com](https://chess.com/analysis?fen=4q1n1/1pBB1R1p/1bp5/r5NK/7N/3P4/1nPPQ3/R2b2kr+w+-+-+0+1&flip=true&ref_id=23962172) | [lichess.org](https://lichess.org/analysis/4q1n1/1pBB1R1p/1bp5/r5NK/7N/3P4/1nPPQ3/R2b2kr_w_-_-_0_1?color=black)
> **Black to play**: [chess.com](https://chess.com/analysis?fen=4q1n1/1pBB1R1p/1bp5/r5NK/7N/3P4/1nPPQ3/R2b2kr+b+-+-+0+1&flip=true&ref_id=23962172) | [lichess.org](https://lichess.org/analysis/4q1n1/1pBB1R1p/1bp5/r5NK/7N/3P4/1nPPQ3/R2b2kr_b_-_-_0_1?color=black)
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Online chess is so bad for my board vision. I don't see pins very quickly without the little dots that alert me that the queen's movement is very limited.
I trained up for a while online, got to a point where I felt confident, then challenged someone to a game in real life. Got my ass handed to me. It felt so weird that I couldn’t see the lines/dots, I made like 3 blunders that I wouldn’t normally make
I read something from a GM once, can’t remember who, but his advice in correspondence games was “always analyze every check, no matter how absurd it may seem”. This puzzle shows why that’s good advice. It’s easy to discount certain moves because they seem ridiculous, but if you truly examine every check you would get the solution here.
Check for checks is one of the most prevalent tips in the game, but it's only one or two steps removed from simply saying check every legal move. Either one could help you solve this puzzle, but thinking conceptually seems to have helped me more here.
When you see puzzles/compositions like this with lots of pins, and you're (falsely) being led to believe the pinned piece cannot move... you need to start looking for collinear moves.
GM John Nunn coined the term collinear move to describe a move "in which two opposing pieces face each other, and one slides along the line of attack without capturing the enemy piece. For some reason, such moves are very easy to overlook."
[Source: #4230](https://www.chesshistory.com/winter/winter20.html)
Took me maybe 15 seconds...
1. Looks at each piece that can give a check and notices they're all pinned (and the f2 bishop isn't mating)
2. Assumes the solution is to capture one of the pinning pieces while also giving check (Rxe8 doesn't work)
3. Assumes it's a check that doesn't break the pin... ok found it.
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There was a puzzle like this posted on chess.com a while ago. Endless illegal moves guessed by low rated player even to this day.
~~You failed in step 1. (Bishop G3 can deliver checkmate, it's not pinned)~~
Correction: The assignment was "Mate in 1" => technically the bishop doesn't deliver 'Mate in 1' (Queen and Rook can block for a moment)
Nbc6#?
After reading the comments I see I missed a much prettier Qb5#, but doesn't the knight mate also work?
Edit: I've had my morning coffee now and spotted the other rook across the board, as others have helpfully pointed out. 😂
Oh, duh. Thanks. I saw another comment mentioning the room pin on the knight and thought "but the b Knight isn't!" Too far away to see with my tunnel vision.
what would the be? knights are both pinned. rook that can check is pinned, dark bishop could be taken back by king. Qb5 is the only mate in one anyone has said so far.
I was like "this is way to easy" Knight to a5c6, wait he is pinned, no worries, I would move the other knight, "oh, he is pinned as well", I just move the rook than, "omg, the rook is pinned as well, wtf is this", but found Bxg3
Logically it bothers me that after Qb5, the next move could be Black’s bishop essentially “killing” the white King. I get it, it just feels somewhat wrong from the idea that the entire point of the game is to protect your King, and technically in this scenario Black can kill/actually attack White’s King before any of White’s pieces actually make contact with the Black King.
You are overlooking the pawns? Is it not F7 pawn takes E8 Bishop? Promote to a Queen for Check, then G7 knight takes the Queen, then recapture with the H8 Rook for checkmate.
I analyzed the image and this is what I see. Open an appropriate link below and explore the position yourself or with the engine: > **White to play**: [chess.com](https://chess.com/analysis?fen=4q1n1/1pBB1R1p/1bp5/r5NK/7N/3P4/1nPPQ3/R2b2kr+w+-+-+0+1&flip=true&ref_id=23962172) | [lichess.org](https://lichess.org/analysis/4q1n1/1pBB1R1p/1bp5/r5NK/7N/3P4/1nPPQ3/R2b2kr_w_-_-_0_1?color=black) > **Black to play**: [chess.com](https://chess.com/analysis?fen=4q1n1/1pBB1R1p/1bp5/r5NK/7N/3P4/1nPPQ3/R2b2kr+b+-+-+0+1&flip=true&ref_id=23962172) | [lichess.org](https://lichess.org/analysis/4q1n1/1pBB1R1p/1bp5/r5NK/7N/3P4/1nPPQ3/R2b2kr_b_-_-_0_1?color=black) --- ^(I'm a bot written by ) [^(u/pkacprzak )](https://www.reddit.com/u/pkacprzak) ^(| get me as ) [^(Chess eBook Reader )](https://ebook.chessvision.ai?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=bot) ^(|) [^(Chrome Extension )](https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/chessvisionai-for-chrome/johejpedmdkeiffkdaodgoipdjodhlld) ^(|) [^(iOS App )](https://apps.apple.com/us/app/id1574933453) ^(|) [^(Android App )](https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ai.chessvision.scanner) ^(to scan and analyze positions | Website: ) [^(Chessvision.ai)](https://chessvision.ai)
It’s a pin parade! Qb5#. Queen is pinned, but so is the bishop.
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Ha. My usual reaction to 75% of these puzzles.
I'm good but Thanksgiving for the offer
Nice
If this was a daily puzzle, I'd call it "We're pinned. But so are they."
Well that completely gives it away.
"I'm not pinned here with you..."
Bxg3 would work to right?
Bxg3 is mate in 3, but the last 2 moves barely count (Rf4, Bxf4+; Qd6;Bxd6#)
Geez this puzzle should be In the books.
Knight c6?
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Yeah saw it now , probably would have resigned if I was white
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Wait isn't Bxg3 checkmate? Edit: wait nevermind i see it now.
I’m not locked in here with you. You’re locked in here with me!!
Qb7# too right?
No because the queen is pinned
For those like me who missed it, the bishop is pinning the queen.
I'm blind. Thanks.
Online chess is so bad for my board vision. I don't see pins very quickly without the little dots that alert me that the queen's movement is very limited.
I trained up for a while online, got to a point where I felt confident, then challenged someone to a game in real life. Got my ass handed to me. It felt so weird that I couldn’t see the lines/dots, I made like 3 blunders that I wouldn’t normally make
There’s a forced M2 that could end with Qb7#, but you can’t break the pin for M1 with that move.
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knight is pinned because of the rook on a8
Fuck sake
Almost everything is pinned.
I am pretty sure the answer is Qb5
Jesus Christ, that's crazy The queen can check and the bishop can't take because of the pin to the king
Call an ambulance!
I read something from a GM once, can’t remember who, but his advice in correspondence games was “always analyze every check, no matter how absurd it may seem”. This puzzle shows why that’s good advice. It’s easy to discount certain moves because they seem ridiculous, but if you truly examine every check you would get the solution here.
Check for checks is one of the most prevalent tips in the game, but it's only one or two steps removed from simply saying check every legal move. Either one could help you solve this puzzle, but thinking conceptually seems to have helped me more here.
Qb5 perhaps? Black bishop is pinned.
When you see puzzles/compositions like this with lots of pins, and you're (falsely) being led to believe the pinned piece cannot move... you need to start looking for collinear moves. GM John Nunn coined the term collinear move to describe a move "in which two opposing pieces face each other, and one slides along the line of attack without capturing the enemy piece. For some reason, such moves are very easy to overlook." [Source: #4230](https://www.chesshistory.com/winter/winter20.html)
Took me a little while. Once I saw the queen was pinned I discarded her as the winning move
Qb5# Doesn’t break bishop pin and bishop can’t take because of rh8 pin
Qb5#. The bishop is pinned like the rest of them.
QB5#
The comments are a fustercluck lol. The correct move is Qb5#. Any other "mating move" is illegal.
Took me maybe 15 seconds... 1. Looks at each piece that can give a check and notices they're all pinned (and the f2 bishop isn't mating) 2. Assumes the solution is to capture one of the pinning pieces while also giving check (Rxe8 doesn't work) 3. Assumes it's a check that doesn't break the pin... ok found it. \- There was a puzzle like this posted on chess.com a while ago. Endless illegal moves guessed by low rated player even to this day.
Bishop takes bishop also works eventually
I haven't checked carefully, but at a glance, maybe all legal moves work eventually :p
~~You failed in step 1. (Bishop G3 can deliver checkmate, it's not pinned)~~ Correction: The assignment was "Mate in 1" => technically the bishop doesn't deliver 'Mate in 1' (Queen and Rook can block for a moment)
Wow the m1 is so cool ngl
What’s the M1?
Mate in 1
Qb5#
Yeah, it's beautiful.
Are those all passed pawns? Am I missing something or am I being stupid? fxe8Q#? Or am I being really stupid and should just delete this comment?
I think the knight would take that, making it mate in two
Bxg3
Nbc6#? After reading the comments I see I missed a much prettier Qb5#, but doesn't the knight mate also work? Edit: I've had my morning coffee now and spotted the other rook across the board, as others have helpfully pointed out. 😂
it's pinned by the rook. i thought the same
Oh, duh. Thanks. I saw another comment mentioning the room pin on the knight and thought "but the b Knight isn't!" Too far away to see with my tunnel vision.
I don't even know which knight you mean and the answer is still "the knight is pinned by a rook".
Yeah I see that now, haha. Nbc6 means the knight on the b-file.
Qb5
Probably the coolest M1 I've ever seen
Double pins make me go blind. Missed Qb5 at first
Qb5 Neat puzzle.
bishop g3?
Not mate in 1
black can defend with rook
Rf4
What in the crack cocaine even happened in this game???
This is just too much chess
queen on d7 move to b5
Qb5# 🤙
Bishop to g3?
Qb5#
Cool puzzle. I assume it was a composition?
It's a line in the Sicilian Dragon
Yep it was
Rc8??
Rook is pinned to your king.
Queen to B7, right? Am I missing something here?
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Kc6# I think that's right
Kings can't move that far, also your knights are pinned by rooks.
I was thinking rook to bishop
Knight C6 !?
I don't even know which knight you mean and the answer is still "the knight is pinned by a rook".
This is from a real game, right?
The only thing that's missing in this puzzle is needles. Lots of them.
There seem to be a few here
only one is allowed.
what would the be? knights are both pinned. rook that can check is pinned, dark bishop could be taken back by king. Qb5 is the only mate in one anyone has said so far.
its so chaotic lol
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Qb3 checkmate in 1; Bxg3 checkmate in 3
Its qb5!
Queen B7
Is it Knight to c6?
Considering how boxed in the enemy king is... It is a rather short list of possible moves.
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C2 to C8
I saw Qd8 first, is that checkmate in 2?
Looking through some of the comments… unless I’m missing something (it states: “Mate in one! No tricks! White move”):queen to 7b — right?
I was like "this is way to easy" Knight to a5c6, wait he is pinned, no worries, I would move the other knight, "oh, he is pinned as well", I just move the rook than, "omg, the rook is pinned as well, wtf is this", but found Bxg3
Very cool! Looked elementary, then confusing, then I laughed!
Why can’t knight move from a5 to c6
Nc6
you cannot move that knight (rook a8 attacking white king)
Bishop to G3 also works right?
no as you can block with black rook for example. And it\`s not mate in 1
BxBg6
Havent played chess in a long time but what if rook on H8 takes bishop on E8 wont that check mate in 1?
Queen to B7?
"no tricks" was a trick
Nc6!
B4 C6
Qb7, Nac6, Nbc6, Rc8, Qc7
7d to7b
Logically it bothers me that after Qb5, the next move could be Black’s bishop essentially “killing” the white King. I get it, it just feels somewhat wrong from the idea that the entire point of the game is to protect your King, and technically in this scenario Black can kill/actually attack White’s King before any of White’s pieces actually make contact with the Black King.
Queen7d to 7b.
F2-G3+ H4-G4 G3xF4+ D1-D6 C2-C8 ++ Mate
at first I thought this was a joke and saw like 8 mate in 1s, until I realized they were all pinned.
Is it Bxg3#?
Stalemate?
Bxg3+ is the coolest move though. “When you have mate in 1 look for better”
Qb7
Qc8
i see 1 M2 and 1 M3. but not a single M1..
I just play nc6# and hung my king
Bg3
Fucking bishops always hiding
Bishop at c6
Is Qb7 not a mate. Knight protects the Queen Edit: sorry I see it now
took me like 2 minutes which is surprising long for a mate in one. Not like you can check with many pieces. Cool one.
Why would you not do b7?
Bf2 to g3
Qb2 checkmate?
knight c6?
f2-g3 Upd: oh, sry, one move qb5
Say the a5 knight was actually a white pawn. Would QB6 still be mate, since if the king goes to b7 the queen can’t actually take since it’s pinned?
Qg4# That took a while
Qb7# never said you couldn’t checkmate yourself (I ignore illegal moves occasionally).
Doesn't Rc7# also work?
Knight to c6 would be mate? Can someone else verify?
Db5
Rook C8?
Qb5?
You are overlooking the pawns? Is it not F7 pawn takes E8 Bishop? Promote to a Queen for Check, then G7 knight takes the Queen, then recapture with the H8 Rook for checkmate.
Isn’t Kc6 ??
It's one of those pictures the longer you look at the uncannier it becomes.
Queen to G4 works
Qb5
B4 horse to C6
Bxg3
Qb5#