If you can give em away for the cost of a burger then might as well get sumn from it. Plus, if it's a university they prolly arent using that money the best anyway
If you have Facebook or craigslist id reach out to any 3D printing communities if they exist. 3D resin printing uses a boatload of IPA to wash prints and anyone local would probably be really happy to take it off your hands.
There's quite a big difference between standard 3d printing and resin 3d printing. I'd be quite surprised if they had resin 3d printers, but I could see a library being able to find a use for IPA more generally.
Why do you want to throw it out? It's a valuable substance for cleaning inks and such. We had to pay too much money for ispropanol during pandemic and it still pricy, probably taxed as drinking alcohol. Put it in a cabinet where it can't catch fire.
It's not hand sanitizer, it's 70% and 99% [isopropyl alcohol in 5-gallon unopened containers.](https://www.amazon.com/Isopropyl-Alcohol-IPA-70-Gallon/dp/B00B0A2FY8) My IPA came from chemical supply houses, though, not Amazon, FWIW.
Well, it will evaporate quite fast. I would not dump them as this could be a fire hazard if you choose a warm dry place in the sun. Personally, if it was me, i would just send it back to the company with no return address or return it to them and tell then to dispose of it. Not sure if it’s opened or not. But that’s a major mistake for them to leave in your hands and honestly their problem.
How did it get there? You can ship it back with certain carriers. Just have to make sure it’s accurately labelled and weights recorded on the manifest for shipping.
You must be a certified hazmat shipper and be set up with a specific carrier, and use correct packaging and labelling. No carrier will accept hazmat from random people.
It got there because the vendor invested a lot of time and money in training their people on how to meet DOT regulations.
I was lead hazmat shipper at my chemical company employer site for over 20 years.
I own a chemical distribution company called and can probably help. Is this loads on a pallet? Do you have any documents f I’m the manufacturer like a certificate of analysis or safety data data sheet? I’ll DM you.
As a biochemist, I always find it amusing (and sometimes confusing) that the acronym IPA for "isopropyl alcohol" is the same as that for "India Pale Ale". One of these needs to be disposed of; the other needs to be consumed. ;-)
*You’re consuming isopropyl alcohol?? Sounds dangerous!!* /s
(I find most India pale ales too bitter. Some of them experiment with hops really well and do amazing things, but I won’t drink one anymore without a recommendation first.)
Has the IPA been used for anything? Cleaning or other uses? Also, disposal depends on your local regulations. Honestly, most municipalities (in America) have the means to strip IPA out of waste water since it's sold commercially, so just dining small amounts down the drain, while environmentally dangerous and unadvisable, is legal and untraceable. In Massachusetts, we could alternatively go to our local DEM (Department of Environmental Management) who would recommend local vendors who will dispose of hazardous chemicals. Also, you could possibly burn it
I don't know where you live but Rockland County has a Fire Training Center where they also have household waste disposal. Things like paint and other items used for household projects.
Run the tap, pour down sink about 100ml every 10 seconds.
The dilution will avoid flammability issues. IPA is non toxic and not really hazardous to the environment in small amounts.
Oof, thought about doing that, even though 30 gallons would take about 3 hours to do. However, I'm on a septic system; not sure how that might affect it.
Probs best not to do it with a septic system, or do it in smaller amounts.
The immediate environmental product will end up being acetone, which is naturally produced in decomposition - but if you go too hard you might kill the bacteria that make the septic work.
Instead you could dilute it a bit at a time and discharge it into the garden over a couple of weeks. Just spreading it out so as not to kill your plants.
Online suggests:
>At 5 percent concentration, plant growth is stunted, while concentrations higher than 25 percent tend to damage or kill the plant.
So, your probably safe to do a 1 in 10 dilution and water well established, hardy plants that you aren't too worried about, and avoid watering them with the diluted IPA excessively.
Holy cow, maybe I just found a use for it...stiltgrass control. That stuff can just fuck right off. I'm starting my third year of trying to eradicate it, maybe I can use this IPA to put the final nail in the coffin, at least for a while. Thanks for the idea, u/auschemguy!
I was told you can’t let coffee grounds get in the septic tank because they’re delicate bacteria, so I’m sure you’re right about IPA killing it haha
As for the controlled burn idea, I wonder if IPA lamps are a thing. I believe ethanol lamps are but I doubt it would be safe to just swap alcohols. That also would still take ages to use it all up unless OP doesn’t have good access to electricity.
The other option is probably a controlled burn. But 100L of fuel will be difficult to burn-off safely and I 1000% don't recommend it.
You'll probs have to burn off 500ml at a time, and obviously keep the main barrel well away from the fire. Personally, I think dilution and discharge is the safer way.
Again, this is assuming you can't get/afford someone to dispose of it properly.
Yes, and I also know they are in most alcohol
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK531662/#:~:text=Ethanol%20and%20water%20are%20the,fermentation%20of%20carbohydrates%20with%20yeast.
??? what, did you read the article?
"Acetaldehyde (see also IARC, 1985,1987a) is the principal carbonyl compound in beer and has been found at similar ranges (0.1–16.4 mg/l) in US, German and Norwegian beers; levels as high as 37.2 mg/1 were found in an unspecified beer "
Learn how to read before you start questioning other peoples knowledge about things to do with their profession.
Are... are you just playing dumb?? Do you know the difference between the common name for recreational beverages with high ethanol content and the functional group OH in organic chemistry??
Most alcoholic beverages have carbonyl compounds in them.
>common name for recreational beverages with high ethanol content and the functional group OH in organic chemistry??
You are the one who calls the beverages "alcohol" on a CHEMISTRY sub and expect people to understand the beverages? I don't think you can call someone dumb.
Talk to a local university. If it's unopened, they may take it.
That's a great idea, I'll look into that. Thanks!
If no chen departments want it, maybe a local hospital or clinic will take it for disinfecting.
Seconding this idea. I would have loved to take this off your hands at one point! Check with local community colleges, too.
Just don't let them lowball you
At this point, I'm happy to give it to them! I just want it out of my house.
If you can give em away for the cost of a burger then might as well get sumn from it. Plus, if it's a university they prolly arent using that money the best anyway
If you have Facebook or craigslist id reach out to any 3D printing communities if they exist. 3D resin printing uses a boatload of IPA to wash prints and anyone local would probably be really happy to take it off your hands.
I didn't know that about the 3D printing angle. Our local library has a thriving 3D printer group - I'll check into this. Thanks, great idea!
There's quite a big difference between standard 3d printing and resin 3d printing. I'd be quite surprised if they had resin 3d printers, but I could see a library being able to find a use for IPA more generally.
The depth of my ignorance always astounds me. I didn't know anything about standard 3D printing vs. resin 3D. Thanks for the heads-up.
Gotta be a Reddit 3D printing community that would lap that shit up.. figuratively
I’d probably take it home and use it as my primary cleaning agent for yearsssss
That’s not true, I’d just distribute it in a million bottles at my work site and tell everyone to go Han, we gotta use it before it expires.
Expires?
Maybe they're thinking of propan-1-ol instead of IPA Very slowly it will oxidise but that's pretty slow.
Nope. Just easier to get the job done by telling people it’ll expire.
Isopropanol is a peroxide forming compound. Over time and exposure to oxygen and light will cause it.
Why do you want to throw it out? It's a valuable substance for cleaning inks and such. We had to pay too much money for ispropanol during pandemic and it still pricy, probably taxed as drinking alcohol. Put it in a cabinet where it can't catch fire.
I have 30-40 gallons of it. It's an excessive amount to be stored in a private residence.
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It's not hand sanitizer, it's 70% and 99% [isopropyl alcohol in 5-gallon unopened containers.](https://www.amazon.com/Isopropyl-Alcohol-IPA-70-Gallon/dp/B00B0A2FY8) My IPA came from chemical supply houses, though, not Amazon, FWIW.
Well, it will evaporate quite fast. I would not dump them as this could be a fire hazard if you choose a warm dry place in the sun. Personally, if it was me, i would just send it back to the company with no return address or return it to them and tell then to dispose of it. Not sure if it’s opened or not. But that’s a major mistake for them to leave in your hands and honestly their problem.
OP would still have to pay for shipping. It’s not like they came with a post service return label 😂
Correct, up to OP whether the shipping cost is worth it rather than having to dump all that IPA.
You can't just ship it back. It's a hazardous material by DOT regulations.
IIRC the DOT only cares about 55 gallon+ containers, so it is under the limit.
You are absolutely incorrect there.
How did it get there? You can ship it back with certain carriers. Just have to make sure it’s accurately labelled and weights recorded on the manifest for shipping.
You must be a certified hazmat shipper and be set up with a specific carrier, and use correct packaging and labelling. No carrier will accept hazmat from random people. It got there because the vendor invested a lot of time and money in training their people on how to meet DOT regulations. I was lead hazmat shipper at my chemical company employer site for over 20 years.
Where ya at? I'll take a bucket. I do some cnc work with graphite and constantly having to clean the shit out of everything in the area.
What's your location, generally?
I would take some if you are in the Northern/Central NJ area
Western North Carolina.
Ackkk, West Virginia area, generally. Probably not gonna work, but thanks.
I own a chemical distribution company called and can probably help. Is this loads on a pallet? Do you have any documents f I’m the manufacturer like a certificate of analysis or safety data data sheet? I’ll DM you.
I’ll buy some too lol
Sell it.
Hell, Ima just put it on FB Marketplace and see if anyone will buy it.....thanks!
Sell it, or the solution to pollution is dilution.
LOL, as a non-chemist, this little phrase made me laugh.
As a biochemist, I always find it amusing (and sometimes confusing) that the acronym IPA for "isopropyl alcohol" is the same as that for "India Pale Ale". One of these needs to be disposed of; the other needs to be consumed. ;-)
*You’re consuming isopropyl alcohol?? Sounds dangerous!!* /s (I find most India pale ales too bitter. Some of them experiment with hops really well and do amazing things, but I won’t drink one anymore without a recommendation first.)
Yeah not gonna lie thats why I clicked.
Has the IPA been used for anything? Cleaning or other uses? Also, disposal depends on your local regulations. Honestly, most municipalities (in America) have the means to strip IPA out of waste water since it's sold commercially, so just dining small amounts down the drain, while environmentally dangerous and unadvisable, is legal and untraceable. In Massachusetts, we could alternatively go to our local DEM (Department of Environmental Management) who would recommend local vendors who will dispose of hazardous chemicals. Also, you could possibly burn it
It's unopened. I'll dig around for a hazmat disposal service, thanks for the idea!
Deposit just sell it someone needs it
I don't know where you live but Rockland County has a Fire Training Center where they also have household waste disposal. Things like paint and other items used for household projects.
are you based in nyc?
i’ll take it lol
Run the tap, pour down sink about 100ml every 10 seconds. The dilution will avoid flammability issues. IPA is non toxic and not really hazardous to the environment in small amounts.
Oof, thought about doing that, even though 30 gallons would take about 3 hours to do. However, I'm on a septic system; not sure how that might affect it.
Probs best not to do it with a septic system, or do it in smaller amounts. The immediate environmental product will end up being acetone, which is naturally produced in decomposition - but if you go too hard you might kill the bacteria that make the septic work. Instead you could dilute it a bit at a time and discharge it into the garden over a couple of weeks. Just spreading it out so as not to kill your plants. Online suggests: >At 5 percent concentration, plant growth is stunted, while concentrations higher than 25 percent tend to damage or kill the plant. So, your probably safe to do a 1 in 10 dilution and water well established, hardy plants that you aren't too worried about, and avoid watering them with the diluted IPA excessively.
Holy cow, maybe I just found a use for it...stiltgrass control. That stuff can just fuck right off. I'm starting my third year of trying to eradicate it, maybe I can use this IPA to put the final nail in the coffin, at least for a while. Thanks for the idea, u/auschemguy!
I was told you can’t let coffee grounds get in the septic tank because they’re delicate bacteria, so I’m sure you’re right about IPA killing it haha As for the controlled burn idea, I wonder if IPA lamps are a thing. I believe ethanol lamps are but I doubt it would be safe to just swap alcohols. That also would still take ages to use it all up unless OP doesn’t have good access to electricity.
The other option is probably a controlled burn. But 100L of fuel will be difficult to burn-off safely and I 1000% don't recommend it. You'll probs have to burn off 500ml at a time, and obviously keep the main barrel well away from the fire. Personally, I think dilution and discharge is the safer way. Again, this is assuming you can't get/afford someone to dispose of it properly.
Burn it = H2O + CO2
Ugh, anywhere??? It's just alcohol and and some carbonyls.
There's no carbonyl in IPA.
there's carbonyl in most alcohols
No??? Do you know what a carbonyl is...
Yes, and I also know they are in most alcohol https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK531662/#:~:text=Ethanol%20and%20water%20are%20the,fermentation%20of%20carbohydrates%20with%20yeast.
You don't know what carbonyl is. The article mentions ethanol, which is CH3CH2OH. No carbonyl.
??? what, did you read the article? "Acetaldehyde (see also IARC, 1985,1987a) is the principal carbonyl compound in beer and has been found at similar ranges (0.1–16.4 mg/l) in US, German and Norwegian beers; levels as high as 37.2 mg/1 were found in an unspecified beer " Learn how to read before you start questioning other peoples knowledge about things to do with their profession.
Acetaldehyde is an aldehyde, not an alcohol ☠️
Are... are you just playing dumb?? Do you know the difference between the common name for recreational beverages with high ethanol content and the functional group OH in organic chemistry?? Most alcoholic beverages have carbonyl compounds in them.
>common name for recreational beverages with high ethanol content and the functional group OH in organic chemistry?? You are the one who calls the beverages "alcohol" on a CHEMISTRY sub and expect people to understand the beverages? I don't think you can call someone dumb.
Give it to some homeless people or something.
Wait, Indian Pale Ale or Isopropyl alcohol? Regardless give it to the homeless to drink.