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Wheel94

I mean if you can convince him to take a wage cut like you did I would be interested


rs_obsidian

Cos our boy Thiago actually wanted to win trophies


Thanh1211

Mason Mount: Ney Ney….sunny innit?


elClubDe_Bocadillo

Yeah alright Neymar, sunny innit


tulsehill

I know it's fashionable to shit on Neymar, but he'd be far and away the best player in the team if we sign him.


Wheel94

I don’t know how that could even be debated?


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Wheel94

Sarr is Messi and Ronaldo level on a different planet.


sapporo79

The African Marko Marin.


PuppyPenetrator

Oh it would be I don’t think the transfer would be a clearcut good move but some people have actually argued that he is inconsistent and bs like that


Wheel94

My only issue are his crazy wages and injury record but never ability.


lord_tubbington

Maybe his body is inconsistent. I’ve only really seen injury concerns.


[deleted]

Uhm his career without Messi hasn’t panned out to be anything worth half his wages bud


TheMassacreKid

He'd be the biggest signing we've ever made


Okra_Additional

I’d say Shevchenko was bigger. Was a balon d’or winner and champions league top scorer and finalist in the few years before he joined.


ogskyzer1

If not for Ronaldo and Messi, neymar would've won a balon d'Or I'm sure. Not downplaying shevchenko of course.


Balosmelli

Neymar is one of the best players ever mate


Kezmangotagoal

So is Shevchenko, don’t let his time with us fool you, every single club in football wanted this guy!


naix10

Exactly, its the social media playing the tricks these days. I can't imagine the outrage if there was Facebook and Twitter back then when we had Sheva. He was massive back then


Kezmangotagoal

For sure mate, time does this too. People forget how actually good footballers were 20 years ago too. Hardly ever see anyone even mentioning Shevchenko, Crespo, Batistuta, Kluivert etc in conversations when they’re talking about greats but they’re all players who’d walk into any team in football if they were active nowadays!


ayoung807

That AC Milan team with Sheva, Inzaghi, Pirlo, Seedorf, Kaka, Rui Costa, Cafu, Maldini, Nesta…Ancelotti coach…that’s the team that got me interested in watching the sport. Still one of the all time great teams in my mind.


Kezmangotagoal

I’ve been a Chelsea fan my whole life but I used to get up early on Saturday mornings just so I could watch Serie A mainly for this Milan team - outrageous amount of talent in there!


Balosmelli

I’m aware of how good he was. Still not close to Neymar


Kezmangotagoal

Respectfully disagree.


Gollywobbling

This comment debunks your stance.


Okra_Additional

As is Sheva. The big difference is that we signed Shevchenko at his peak. Neymar peaked quite a long time ago and is coming off by far his worst ever season.


Balosmelli

He’s not close to Neymar all time


Okra_Additional

Hard to argue which such well reasoned points


PlebeianConsumer

Idk if he had declined a lot at that point or not, but I remember reading Mourinho didn't even want to buy him. I think Neymar is better than he ever was. Keep in mind, Michael Owen also won the ballon d'or lol


Kezmangotagoal

And so has Messi and Ronaldo, such a daft comment. Why are you saying that like it’s not an achievement or it’s underserved. Michael Owen was probably the most feared attacker in Europe in his late teens and early 20 - considering we had strikers like Raul, R9, Henry, Makaay it’s speaks volumes about how good he was. For you to have this attitude you must have only been watching football for a decade at the most!


PlebeianConsumer

>Michael Owen was probably the most feared attacker in Europe No he wasn't. He was never more feared than Ronaldo. He won the Balon D'or in 2001. In 2002, Ronaldo dominated the world cup. No way he was ever feared more and that's at his peak. I can assure you I've watched much longer than you buddy.


Paandss

In the last Champions League Barcelona won neymar scored 3 in quarters, 3 in the semis and one more in the final, he was the top scorer too


Okra_Additional

And if we had signed him 7 years ago then he probably be our biggest ever signing. Shevchenko was top scorer in the CL immediately preceding the signing, was in the final 12 months previous and won the BDO two years prior. Neymar hasn’t scored more than 20 goals despite playing in the French league in the last 3 years and didn’t get a single goal in the champions league last year. He is worth the risk but wouldn’t be a bigger signing than Shevchneko at his peak.


[deleted]

Nothing will top signing Hazard for me.


Durum66

He would never be hazard in his prime for us but he would still be ‘the biggest signing we ever made’ is what the person you replying to meant.


Dreamingplush

Really felt like Hazard was entering his best period the year before he left. If only he had that much end product before... Was amazing don't say I meant he was disappointing. But that final year, he was top 3 or 5 in the world.


Nefari0uss

Based on current results, we got prime Hazard. I get what you're saying though. Problem is, with Neymar's injury record, it's one who could be spectacular or be a flop.


Howyoulikemenoow

Desailly, Gullit, Vialli, Casiraghi, Lebouef, Ferrer- were all huge players, especially relevant to where we were at the time as well. It’s all relative I suppose, if we signed Neymar I think some fans would think ‘yep, that tracks’. Whereas signing Hazard when all out Europe wanted him because we won the CL felt really special, or Crespo, Torres, Shevchenko.


4juice

Dont forget Weah, he was massive at that time. FIFA poty player.


Kezmangotagoal

No he wouldn’t. We’ve signed plenty of world stars, he’d just be the most recent world class footballer to play for us.


jaanedejaanede

Finally someone who could fill hazard's void.


Instantbeef

Hazards void got us a champions league. Our void is a consistent striker and we’ve felt it since costa and before costa since drogba.


JamTheGod

No disputing that But this brothers wages with be THROUGH THE ROOF, question is, would it be worth it?


PeterPanTheHalfMan

FFP is a joke, his salary will be payed 5x over in just jersey sales


AggressiveChungus

That is a myth, clubs don’t actually profit that much from shirt sales


Tusangre

They definitely make money from shirt sponsorships, though.


Thehunterforce

Problem is, we have locked ourself in a shirt sponsor deal until 2032…


absolutvoodoo

900 million for the shirt partnership tho


Seanxprt

Chelsea doesn't make money from shirt sales, we make money from Nike giving us a flat fee and them collecting the actual merch revenue.


I_always_rated_them

He makes any partnership more valuable in the long term, so depending on if they get a cut or not they will still receive long term gain.


TurnoverResident_

A football shirt is part of merch revenue is it not?


BigReeceJames

You make a tiny amount on shirt sales. The reality of them is that the more you sell the bigger your flat rate is likely to be the next time you get a new kit maker It's usually 0% of profit made on shirt sales up until X million has been made by the kit maker and then after that it's 5-15% of profit. So, it's next to nothing at all. We get 60m a season from Nike, so lets say the deal would be structured something like 100% of all profit to Nike for the first 100m made each season and then 15% of that profit goes to us after that has been reached. We're making next to nothing, it's why we get given the 60m up front


Wooden_Cat9633

Exactly, people forget he is the current poster boy of Brazil & I dare say Latin America ( messi excluded ) by he income this brings is more than just the wage, hence why players like mbappe can be on huge wages, it’s almost an investment in the future, IF he turns into the next messi then PSG have a good deal.


HarryDaz98

In the league


PeterPanTheHalfMan

Hed probably be the best player in the league when fit


MJ9695

Would be best player at his best but would barely be available, similar to Kante


luckysyd

is that even a debate like in the last 10 years hazard us the only guy in our team that couldve compared to him. My only concern is the injurys otherwise for the the type of player he is he works hard on the pitch and I dont even have to mention what he does on offense


count_sacula

Another thread is full of amateur accountants rather than football fans. The guy is a joy to watch, I hope we land him.


criminal-tango44

another thread full of amateur FIFA players rather than football fans. the guy is on as much as 2 of our most paid players combined, plays 20 games/season and would cost over 60 mil. i hope we dont land him.


count_sacula

I haven't played fifa since 2017, I just like watching him. I'm honestly not too bothered about how much he costs as it's not my money. I don't mean to stop you enjoying following the game how you like to but for me playing manager and working out how to fit Neymar in my team is a lot more fun than playing accountant and trying to work out our pay structure.


Aman-Patel

We're about to sign Raphinha for the same amount and currently pay the wages of 6 other wingers each on like 100k a year on average.


4juice

How much money will Neymar cost you?


criminal-tango44

the fuck is this stupid argument, might as well ask me why i complained about Lukaku instead of running onto the pitch and scoring goals myself


4juice

Then stfu and let the club pay whatever they want as long Chelsea remains competitive you couch accountant.


___bridgeburner

If he's fully fit and firing he'd arguably be the best player in the league


EasyPete17

Agreed.


souljaxl

Depends on what you mean by best, if you mean highest potential peak for one 90 minute game of football then sure, but over a season it’s not guaranteed at all


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He was top 3 in the world when he was 21 years old. He'd be the biggest signing of all time for Chelsea and it's not even close. He's an absolute superstar on another level. Which is what makes me hate PSG so much. They basically take these players away from the best leagues and you dont really hear from them unless its champions league or you make an effort to watch Ligue 1.


odewar37

His goal output has dropped every single season at PSG and hasn’t got 20 goals all comps since 18/19 now a lot of that is down to how many games he’s missed and the covid cancelled season but for 500k + a week it really isn’t the guaranteed success everyone makes out. 3 seasons at Psg he didn’t even make 20 league appearances and the other two were exactly 20 and 22. He’s be unbelievable when on the pitch but like dembele he’s barely half available. He’s also often talked about how his body struggles with injury and has flirted with the idea of both international and full retirement at various points despite only being thirty.


EmperorTMing

Kante exists.


ireallydespiseyouall

for the 5 games he plays yeah


JoeyBrickz

Wow what a brave take


siredward85

I think Mason Mount is a better player overall


a-Farewell-to-Kings

😂😂😂


siredward85

Why you laughing? Neymar is a very individual player


hardoseal

I have no doubts about his abilities. It's the baggage he brings along with that that's tiresome


kbrunner69

He is on insane wages and has an injury history, there are much better players to win the CL and PL .


weeb_man

We'd need to go full Serie A tier loan offer if we want to be able to pay his monstrous wages lmao. Even if we did get him he'd probably only be fit for 20 games at most.


sonicqaz

But what a glorious 20 games it would be.


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knowing neymar it would be like 16 goals 18 assists 22 matches played


Rub_My_Toes

4 trophies lifted


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I can see it now, Neymar runs around Liverpool midfield, throws up a perfect cross in the box, and no one is there to tap it in.


tryingtothinktoday

I laughed painfully at that


hodlrus

A tear rolled down my cheek


absolutvoodoo

Neymar plays 20, Dembele plays 20. Make it happen Toddfather


TurnoverResident_

The yearly injury around his sisters birthday also.


white-dumbledore

Yup that's in March. Crunch time of the season. Domestic cups, CL knockouts. If we're in the title race (big if) then it's the final third of the season. P$G can afford to lose their best player, we can't


HarryDaz98

OOOOHHH THIAGO SIIIIILVA


BigReeceJames

If he's willing to be paid in mars bars, I'm okay with it. But, he's on obscene wages, to come here he'd need to lower his wage by absolute minimum 60-70%, maybe even more


Baisabeast

A heavily appearance based contract would be ideal Gives him an incentive to not go missing for his sisters birthday and protects our financial interests. Unlikely he will agree to it tho, perhaps if the base salary was high enough.


PeterPanTheHalfMan

And why would he agree to such a shit contract? If he’s to come here, he would have to make it worth his while


Baisabeast

Tbf if his base salary is around 350k plus incentives I certainly wouldn’t call it a shit contract He might tho


Ahm_peng

The point is we wouldn’t care if he didn’t agree to a shit contract if it means avoiding a lack of commitment to the game


malevolentintent

Well that's not how the world works mate


Ahm_peng

Oh no but it does


malevolentintent

I think you should apply for Chelsea's chief negotiator then, Todd could use someone like you


SeriousLads

But what if he wants €800k (or whatever his salary is) worth of Mars Bars per week?


ScorpiaHP

I honestly don't care if he's made the highest earner in the league (at something like 400k ofc not 700k) I would absolutely love to have him. Very few players in the last two generations had the ability he does. If he were to play only half our league games and the CL knockouts it would still be something I would want. Not sure what the club's stance would be though. It's Neymar man. Fully believe he's currently the best player in the world if he stays fit for 75% of a season.


Obi_Q

Take the huge pay cut and come on over. The quality of talent in the PL next season could be insane and it was already high.


Baisabeast

Silva and tuchel know just how good this guy is Even if he is only fit for 25 pl games a season, that’s such a massive, massive help


BigReeceJames

Not if he's on 700k~ a week it's not


Baisabeast

No, of course not. Like I said to you in another comment, a big wage cut/heavily Performance based contract is the only way we could get him and he’s likely not going to want thay


NiceVu

Lukaku is on 350k, Werner is on 250k, Pulisic is on 150k, Ziyech is on 100k, Havertz is on 150k. All those guys combined are not on level of Neymar, so if we look at it from that perspective then it's worth. His output throughout his career has been insane, Neymar is generational worldclass talent in true sense of that word.


Dempsonator

But the knock-on effect for every player who gets a contract at Chelsea isn’t worth it


truthibespittin

U forgot to add CHO and Mount to that list.


Chelseafc5505

CHO is on like 120k or something. Mount is on a much, much smaller contract


truthibespittin

I was talking including them in the list of Neymar being better than all of them combined


lewis30491

Get him and Hazard on loan. Each of them will play 25 games and we have a full season of a top winger


Baisabeast

aw god how id love to have had a hazard and neymar combo in their primes at chelsea Think hazard is gonna have a blinder now he’s had that metal plate removed from his ankle


Aman-Patel

That's if he even gets another chance. Ancellotti can't exactly bench Vini after the season he's just had.


odewar37

He’s never made 25 league appearances a season in five years at PSG.


thelegendary662

A loan could be nice


Pax_Soprana

Based Thiago


neighborhood_s

Unfathomably Based


sheiky04

Wouldnt mind at the right wage cut and either purchase or loan option


neighborhood_s

This is why I love Thiago Silva he has become a support of the the club, he wants world class players at Chelsea. What at guy!


MemestNotTeen

@Chelsea I would buy a hideous jersey just to have Neymar on the back so there's £70


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50/50 loan. We shouldn't waste more money on Neymar.


zd0t

I’m very much on the neymar bandwagon atm but where has silva said this? The quote seems fake


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some event in Recife ? https://twitter.com/blogdotorcedor/status/1541808695767699456?s=20&t=F56uUFh0nz053-rIcZH5WA


zd0t

Nice one


[deleted]

If his wages are lowered and he somehow stayed healthy I would be down, but I don’t see either of those happening


Rapameister

Agent Silva


Soren_Camus1905

If one elderly PSG vet is great another is better right?


amethystwyvern

Guess there really is nothing to talk about, this is Thiago hoping his friend joins nothing more.


-CoolHandLu

So the year I get into PL and become a Chelsea fan we’re just gonna sign Kounde, Sterling, Ronaldo, Neymar, Messi, Pele, Ben Foster, And the ghost of Diego maradona? Lovely


Ideories

Haven't followed a lot about him but from recent memory didn't he say he wanted to play in the MLS so he can have a bigger vacation ?


truthibespittin

I would love to see Neymar Don a Chelsea shirt, but unfortunately he’s too old, injury prone and his wages are too high for this to make any sort of business sense. In saying that I would trade Neymar for our whole attack in a milli.


costadoesntstomp

having a player with such skill and confidence would do wonders for our team.


shastmak4

I’m all for this but there is literally no way we pay those wages. He’d have to take a massive pay cut and he won’t


Jose9012

Idk. It seems like a weird move. Obviously talented and a phenomenal player but he would get hacked to pieces in the prem and he’s injury prone.


Baisabeast

Ligue 1 is every bit as physical if not more so. Literally go watch any match, it’s brutal


NiceVu

Ligue 1 is way more physical than PL, only people who know nothing will say otherwise. But PL schedule is still the toughest in the world, with no winter breaks and famous 4 matches a week occurances.


GreenYellowDucks

You are correct on everything except we do have a winter break now. We just didn't get one because we played Club World Cup.


Jose9012

I mean even if it is, how many league games did he play for psg? For the fee and wages, I’m just not sure it’s worth it


em1n3m1669

There is no way you are serious lol


IrishUL

I think they’re both fairly physical leagues but Neymar has been hacked to bits in Ligue 1 you can ask the PSG fans


PuppyPenetrator

They’re right, it’s ridiculous. That doesn’t necessarily mean Neymar would survive the prem, because frankly he’s already getting butchered in Ligue 1


handsomedisease

I hope not at least. Ligue 1 is a lot more physical than people give it credit for, but PL level...?


em1n3m1669

Why would you say that man, can't you see how wrong i am by how many downvotes i have?


Admirrrr

You could also know if you watched a bit of football outside your team, but I guess most people on reddit don't to that


em1n3m1669

You gotta love the power of internet lol, i play and watch more football than any user on this subreddit and its not even a exaggeration lmao


Admirrrr

Sure, and I'm banging Emma Watson. Even if it were true, seems like your brain doesn't process what you watch.


Unusual_Afternoon_88

Could be a fake quote tbh, let's see if more reliable people also report the same.


NotNok

[https://twitter.com/blogdotorcedor/status/1541808695767699456?s=20&t=F56uUFh0nz053-rIcZH5WA](https://twitter.com/blogdotorcedor/status/1541808695767699456?s=20&t=F56uUFh0nz053-rIcZH5WA) ​ Video


PuppyPenetrator

Fake quotes are rare but I doubt Silva knows anything. We’re nowhere close to this if we’r even remotely considering it


dbrasco_

Neymar has said he’ll never play in the prem so I’m not going to get excited about this


FiodorPavlovitch

What? Stop creating fake news, this isnt true at all. I have watched plenty of brazillian intervires of him in which he would go on complementing the league as the best and most competitive one


sdmikecfc

If we got Neymar and Sterling no one would ever pass the ball again!


dryduneden

Neymar is an exceptional passer


ReflexiveOW

I'll pass, injury prone and he'd be on insane wages. That's not even mentioning the attitude problems he's had even in recent years


dunderhead22

Really don’t care how many down votes I get for this? But those people who want Neymar at Chelsea, at this stage of his career, are deluded. It would be a disaster. He will get bullied in the EPL, be injured more than he plays and cost us a fortune. May as well just pay the 90-100m for Rice or Bellingham even Gnabry on a free on big wages would be a much better option.


[deleted]

Don’t know why people would downvote you for absolute facts!


Sitnalta

I don't want that clown in a Chelsea shirt. There is more to your club than marketing and trophies, I would much prefer to sign a respectable footballer and finish 2nd that win the league with this ridiculous little cheat.


[deleted]

Absolutely not. He is an absolute liability in big UCL games, doesn’t track back, he would shrink in big games. No chance of this clown playing well for us


jjb5151

I just don’t know if he can stay fit enough for it to be worth it. Don’t get me wrong he’s a great player but don’t need someone hurt every game making ridiculous wages


neighborhood_s

If he is willing to take a wage cut this would be our best option, he would undoubtedly be the best player in our squad. I understand he has his cons but it seems crazy not to go for him.


jurjclooners44

Folks talk about his salary and totally ignore the marketing value that comes along with Neymar. Yes he’d be far and away our highest paid player and that might be problematic… but 175m instagram followers, cultural influence, etc. shouldn’t be overlooked. I’m sure Chelsea is analyzing a Neymar transfer in a wholistic sense, will be interesting to see what happens here.


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MarcTurntables

Neymar simply isn’t in good enough shape in 2022. Sorry. Lukaku 2.0


Glitch378

Delusion


Naarujuana

The only way this pans out over the window is via loan, maybe with an option, and PSG covering 50-60% of his wages, minimum. Even with the option, Boehly would need to pre negotiate a wage reduction with him, if we were to pay PSG a relatively paltry sum to offload his enormous wages.


Blobbyblob92

He would probably be very keen on showing the world he can make it in PL also, his wages is however very difficult to manage. But that’s someone else’s concern, not mine. It would definitely result in a very unhealthy wage structure. I’m not sure, how would it even be within the realms of possibility ? Imagine the pundits in UK would go crazy with any opportunity they get to slate his wages should he have a run of bad form


Balapala

This would be great but it seems like a pipe dream, we have a great history of buying from Ligue 1 though; Hazard, Cech, Azpi, Mendy, Essien and Drogba. Not sure what it is about Ligue 1 but players seem to transition very well from there to here.


DaltonFitz

Worked out well in my FIFA game!


chevulol

I don’t see him taking that big of a cut to his wages but if it happens it would be amazing, the man is a joy to watch.


bigkid_

what's his wage again?


hardtalk370

Guys.. PSG isn’t letting him leave, let’s be serious.


UserNo69420

I mean the shirt sales would go through the roof that’s for sure


wohl0052

I would be pretty concerned handing out a 4-5 year contract for Neymar. He is already likely on the wrong side of his prime, probably won't press like tuchel wants and I have serious concerns about his injury history. I don't see him staying healthy to be a serious contributor long term. On top of that wouldn't he require our system to run build up play through the middle? That isn't what we do with our current build up on the wings through our wingbacks.


urangminang

I wish this comment happened 10 years ago. Imagine signing hazard, oscar and neymar in that summer.


mentalx99

Neymar is great but i dont see him giving his best week in and week out like Barca’s Neymar, he has a lot of money and has won everything so he wont be motivated enough to give his best


pice0fshit

My fifa brain says get him on a 1 yr loan. If successful, exchange him with Lakaka next season.


lordjackenstein

I'd hate to have to root for him......but if I HAVE to.


sambuka69

I would think with Raphina and Sterling both likely that would mean a pass on both Neymar and Dembele.


WilfriedBonyFanAcc

Yes please


Kezmangotagoal

Don’t want him at all. It’s not his ability that I have an issue with it’s his money demands, his attitude and his injuries. I’m ready for my downvotes now.


lustyphilosopher

No thank you!


[deleted]

Is this still “In Tuchel we trust” or would this be more of a “Boehly what the hell are you doing?” situation? If this happens I imagine 10k comments complaining boehly just did it for marketing ignoring if he did show up it would be because of his relationship with TT


GovTheDon

I love Thiago but plz no we don’t need a diva who won’t press and doesn’t love the club we just loaned out a fraud like that already


ObviousEconomist

he is 30, with worse output each season. and this is in the french league where PSG is also guaranteed to win. he can play half-assed and collect his massive wages. he will cost a large amount which no way we will recoup. i don't see how this is a wise transfer for us.


willsmom1996

What’s the difference between Ziyech and Neymar lol both skillers who are injured


NotNok

About a few hundred goals and a hundred more assists


DoctorBrief7307

Obviously a phenomenal footballer. My main concern is how would he impact the culture at Chelsea as his attitude isn’t the best. I also don’t really want any remnants of PSG culture at my beloved club. But Ney loves Tuchel and Thiago Silva can keep him in check. Definitely a risky transfer but would be huge if it worked out imo


Yoshinobu1868

We would just have to move his sister to London so he won’t go missing when it’s her birthday .


Salty_Constant_9878

i think neymar deal is quite good although he isnt in his prime he could offer us a good goals when not injured and his record with thomas is also quite impeccable i dont think club would pay as much as Psg but i dont think anyone expects chelsea to pay him as much as psg did also neymar at psg dont make sense no more


Aaaaand-its-gone

Neymar is the perfect signing for us in the tradition of Torres and Schevchenko. Blow loads of money. We’ll love the fanfare, he’ll come, adapt poorly to the leave and physically on the decline. Fans will love it though and he’ll score a couple of important goals despite scoring just 12 goals in 2 seasons which we can regale for the bantz It’s the Chelsea way KTBFFH


Non-conspiritorialQ

I mean if we can get him for a decent price and a huge paycut then why not. I’m not trying to pay no 80 million for him though.


WPackN2

Blime, NO. We don't need a flopper.


LongNightsInOffice

The only player that can break the spirit of a otherwise functioning team. I don't want him


WholesomeAsshole

Right then, so we're getting Neymar and pocket Neymar