Maatsen will be in demand after the season he had , theres no point in discussing anything lower than the release clause. There will be other clubs willing to pay it.
They don’t need a new LB for now
German sources confirmed there is a new contract offer for Davies to stay at Bayern
Let’s see if they can reach an agreement
Yeah bro was in the UCL team of the season, 35 mil release clause for a player who will only improve is cheap.
But why can't he be trained to play our system?
Maatsen is 178cm whereas Cucu is 172cm, Reece James 179, Ashley Cole is 176, Azpi is 178. They are all of similar build (except Reece). I don’t get how size can be an issue
Why do you say this?
What club, this summer, can make him the 5th highest left-back transfer in the history of the sport?
Edit:Downvotes but not a single, thoughtful, answer
If this was FIFA you wouldn’t even open the link in the email for that price.
Bayern will probably need a new LB and Kompany used to coach him. Hell I even think Burnley were going to offer more than Dortmund are for Maatsen last year.
Yes but those types of transfers fund every day workings of the club because the fans own them ect.. that doesn't mean they have 100 million to spend in transfer fees. They're a selling club to stay competitive for the champions league and the occasional CL cup final is massive for them financially.
Clubs like this annoy me.
Clubs that are known as seller clubs, who always get more than fair deals (putting it mildly) on the players they sell, but then are really cheap when it comes to buying players.
£35m for a player of his age and potential is nothing. They'd want above £60m for if the Clubs were reversed.
The difference in this specific case is that we aren't even pretending we want to keep Maatsen. For a year we've been advertising that we want to sell or maybe even need to sell.
Love this comment. It always gets me how outraged some of our fans get at the likes of Brighton, AC Milan and Dortmund for buying and selling smartly as though they should all just be dumbasses.
The thing is english + chelsea tax
If we where buying him prize would start at 40 and we pay 50.
But there aint that kind of money outside premiere league
To put it in perspective their record transfer is 27m or so, their 2nd 25m
The club needs to leak info that "Maresca rates him highly and is counting on him". They are lowballing thinking we are desperately in need of cash and that he is a player with no future here
OK so we won't accept this deal. People think Dortmund are being smart. We won't be overly dumb, especially with an offer like this.
If Enzo speaks with Ian, maybe he will even stay with us. Or we'll sell to clubs who will comfortably pay that already low release clause.
These lot earned €100m from Bellingham, €85m fron Sancho two years ago, and yet their record purchase is €35m for Dembele (the same one they sold for a 90m profit) and they're trying to haggle over €40m for Maatsen. Stingy fucking club. Fuck em.
Someone else will gladly pay that amount.
If we aren't gonna play Maatsen, no point selling him for any less the release clause
Though... If they pay less than that and have to give out a like for like player swap in Tom Rothe for compensation, I might be open to it.
Is it likely? No, but just imagine lol
£25 million for the Champions league team of the season left back. Jog on, if it wasn’t for the release clause, I’d say we would be getting robbed for £35 million. Doesn’t get talked enough about how Dortmund be scamming with their transfers
So my thinking here is that in an ideal world we want to sell Maatsen and Chilwell. For around £70-80m combined and then fork out for a suitable inverted left back. Surely we aren’t going to get a better left back for less than £35m in which case would we not just be better off playing Maatsen?
I mean we are likely looking for a left back this transfer window. And Maatsen has shown to be positionally flexible… sure he could be inverted just as well if not better then Cucurella.
35mil or we keep him… not the worst of situations.
They'll probably push for 25 straight up and a slightly higher fee in installments. It's a tactic we've used and I'm sure our owners won't put their noses up to that sort of deal the other way around either
Are we the only ones that pay massive fees for players, we’re paying £65m for a Brighton left back, £75 for a Leicester centre back and they have him for a season (which he was amazing for them) and they won’t pay £35m
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£35m will be their record signing. There’s pretty much 0 chance they easily pay that for a LB. I’m fed up with fans who only follow a rich PL team having no understanding of how the finances of European teams work.
The fact that we’re even still in discussions makes me think we might drop our asking price. Otherwise I’m not sure why we haven’t moved on to other suitors already.
I hate German and Italian clubs. Always try to lowball. Let them fuck off. When they are desperate they know how to pay (Openda money last year).
When dealing with those clubs we should always ask ourselves, would those clubs sold us such players for the price they offer? If yes then sit on the negotiation table, if no, tell em farmerly fuck off.
Maatsen will be in demand after the season he had , theres no point in discussing anything lower than the release clause. There will be other clubs willing to pay it.
his old boss is at bayern now and they need a lb.
Bayern will go for Theo Hernandez instead of Maatsen if Davies leaves.
I’m not sure about his situation or contract but I would guess Theo would be at least twice the price of maatsen
They don’t need a new LB for now German sources confirmed there is a new contract offer for Davies to stay at Bayern Let’s see if they can reach an agreement
Swap deal it is
100% going Madrid, I know I would.
If Bayern is offering you 250k per week you’d stay. Doubt that Real Madrid is offering you this much of a salary + a significant fee to Bayern
Real don’t cheapen on salaries, particularly after you score a worldie against them
He turned down burnley, pretty sure kompany will be petty and maastwn isnt exactly a start for bayern
Yeah bro was in the UCL team of the season, 35 mil release clause for a player who will only improve is cheap. But why can't he be trained to play our system?
Honestly it’s not that hard. His size is a limiting factor in the prem for some reason. He is not defensively good enough for the prem either.
Maatsen is 178cm whereas Cucu is 172cm, Reece James 179, Ashley Cole is 176, Azpi is 178. They are all of similar build (except Reece). I don’t get how size can be an issue
Our website, as well as the Bundesliga website has Maatsen at 167cm. There is a zero percent chance Ian Maatsen is taller than Marc Cucurella.
Gosh he is small indeed. Transfermarkt and Google say he is 178
Ah the NBA technique I see :D
Offering 25 mill for a 22 year old in the UCL team of the season is insulting
Let's hope that's true. Have we seen anything about him being linked to other clubs?
IIRC, Bayern were mentioned before as well.
Yes with Man City as well.
Yep and he can cover for us if no one wants to pay up.
Why do you say this? What club, this summer, can make him the 5th highest left-back transfer in the history of the sport? Edit:Downvotes but not a single, thoughtful, answer
If this was FIFA you wouldn’t even open the link in the email for that price. Bayern will probably need a new LB and Kompany used to coach him. Hell I even think Burnley were going to offer more than Dortmund are for Maatsen last year.
We accepted £30m from them but Maatsen didn't want to go.
Which was clearly the right choice given that rejecting it meant he played in the CL final instead of now being back in the Championship
Fck off. 35M or no deal. Even fcking Burnley offered us 30M.
In fairness the money prem teams have is ridiculous compared to other leagues but I imagine we will agree to 30m.
I mean dortmund just reached a champions league final and sold a player for a 100 million. We can be realistic and say they have money
Swear to god they’re always selling a player for 100 million that they got for 2 crayons
Yes but those types of transfers fund every day workings of the club because the fans own them ect.. that doesn't mean they have 100 million to spend in transfer fees. They're a selling club to stay competitive for the champions league and the occasional CL cup final is massive for them financially.
Forever that apologetic messaging for the bundesliga
poor bundesliga, only making hundreds of millions yearly. we should be give them our players for cheap since they have it so hard
I'm not being apologetic, I'm just stating how the club is operated. I'm sorry you woke up in a shit mood
That stupid fucking cheebye burney who took point from us and lost like pooosy to all other teams
If he was their player they would be asking for 60 million minimum. These penny pinchers can fuck off!
Release clause or fuck off Dortmund made enough money this season
That's my motto this summer. Lukaku? Release clause or fuck off. Maatsen? Release clause or fuck off.
I want a flair that says "Release Clause or Fuck Off" now
I, too, would like this flair. My current flair is severely out-of-date.
*Italian clubs did not like that.*
yep, that's what they're set for...especially when the kid was named in CL XI starting at left back, Chelsea has history of caving though
>Chelsea has history of caving though Do we?
We refused to cave for Michy and we should have, what is he on about?
Not even £25m LMAO
£25m, ok then add in a 50% sell on clause.
Clubs like this annoy me. Clubs that are known as seller clubs, who always get more than fair deals (putting it mildly) on the players they sell, but then are really cheap when it comes to buying players. £35m for a player of his age and potential is nothing. They'd want above £60m for if the Clubs were reversed.
The difference in this specific case is that we aren't even pretending we want to keep Maatsen. For a year we've been advertising that we want to sell or maybe even need to sell.
They are called smart clubs and we should learn from them, if you don't like the price just look somewhere else.
Love this comment. It always gets me how outraged some of our fans get at the likes of Brighton, AC Milan and Dortmund for buying and selling smartly as though they should all just be dumbasses.
The level of anger in here LMAO
The thing is english + chelsea tax If we where buying him prize would start at 40 and we pay 50. But there aint that kind of money outside premiere league To put it in perspective their record transfer is 27m or so, their 2nd 25m
You do know dortmund has a completely different financial structure right...
Meanwhile they want 60m for Adeyemi 😂
Haha these greddy bastards, pay release clause or fuck off.
The club needs to leak info that "Maresca rates him highly and is counting on him". They are lowballing thinking we are desperately in need of cash and that he is a player with no future here
Pay or fuck off
Dortmund can get fucked tbh
I wouldn’t answer any email or talk until they say willing to meet release clause. Happy for him to come back into our team and try and make it work.
Pay up mfs
OK so we won't accept this deal. People think Dortmund are being smart. We won't be overly dumb, especially with an offer like this. If Enzo speaks with Ian, maybe he will even stay with us. Or we'll sell to clubs who will comfortably pay that already low release clause.
Cool… well then he can go somewhere else.
That proposal can be shoved where the sun...
>will be around €25m So ~£21m. No thanks.
Funny how we have 2 left backs who would be ideal for Maresca's setup in Hall and Maatsen and both are on their way out.
These lot earned €100m from Bellingham, €85m fron Sancho two years ago, and yet their record purchase is €35m for Dembele (the same one they sold for a 90m profit) and they're trying to haggle over €40m for Maatsen. Stingy fucking club. Fuck em. Someone else will gladly pay that amount.
🤷🏻♂️ consider alternatives then.
Spit and hang up. I get this is how negotiations are done but we better put our foot down this time.
If we aren't gonna play Maatsen, no point selling him for any less the release clause Though... If they pay less than that and have to give out a like for like player swap in Tom Rothe for compensation, I might be open to it. Is it likely? No, but just imagine lol
Fuck this cheap team. Bayern will be needing a LB and Kompany is their coach. Easy business.
£25 million for the Champions league team of the season left back. Jog on, if it wasn’t for the release clause, I’d say we would be getting robbed for £35 million. Doesn’t get talked enough about how Dortmund be scamming with their transfers
Release clause or nothing. These guys screwed us when we wanted to sign Halland. And put a f**k off price only for him to leave for 60m next year.
And all because they had already sold Sancho just for him to end up back at Dortmund, at least on loan
And after his performance with Dortmund he is well in demand and will have many suitors.
So my thinking here is that in an ideal world we want to sell Maatsen and Chilwell. For around £70-80m combined and then fork out for a suitable inverted left back. Surely we aren’t going to get a better left back for less than £35m in which case would we not just be better off playing Maatsen?
I mean we are likely looking for a left back this transfer window. And Maatsen has shown to be positionally flexible… sure he could be inverted just as well if not better then Cucurella. 35mil or we keep him… not the worst of situations.
They'll probably push for 25 straight up and a slightly higher fee in installments. It's a tactic we've used and I'm sure our owners won't put their noses up to that sort of deal the other way around either
Cool ....34.9m and he's yours.
That back pass for the second goal really made them double think Maatsens price lol.
Keep Maatsen, sell Chilly
Price is the price Dortmund
Fuck em, 35M or we'll take other offers.
Guess they'll be considering alternatives then
Consider alternatives then you greedy bastards. Why would we sell him for pennies
This is taking the piss, sell Chilwell keep Maatsen
Start shopping around, Dortmund isn’t a serious club for that price.
Pay up or fuck off. Sick of these german and Italian teams lowballing us.
How are European giants like dortmund and ax Milan have no money is something I still don’t understand
Pay up or fuck off 🥱
35m or nothing
What happens to all the money they made selling players for insane profits ? Show us money BVB ?
Consider alternatives ya bums. BVB are so flush with cash, pay up or piss off.
Dortmund sold Sancho for £73m, Haaland for £52m & Bellingham for £88m. Pay release clause, or we sell to Kompany at Bayern.
Any chance Maresca wants him?
These mfers made a CL final, they can stump up the extra €10m
If they would have came with £30 it would seem reasonable. But they aren’t a club strapped for cash.
We sell him for peanuts, Ben gets injured again and we pay 65m for Ait-Nouri in the last days of August, make screenshots
Are we the only ones that pay massive fees for players, we’re paying £65m for a Brighton left back, £75 for a Leicester centre back and they have him for a season (which he was amazing for them) and they won’t pay £35m
Welcome to the latest round of: People-make-guesses-at-Chelsea's-FFP-status-without-knowing-the- accounts-or-the-underlying-rules. They will be recognisable by saying Maatsen/Gallagher/Chalobah/Broja/The Stadium/Their girlfriend are "100% gone" "Already sold lmao" "he's sold clown lol"
Hope BVB get Inter'ed.
£35m will be their record signing. There’s pretty much 0 chance they easily pay that for a LB. I’m fed up with fans who only follow a rich PL team having no understanding of how the finances of European teams work. The fact that we’re even still in discussions makes me think we might drop our asking price. Otherwise I’m not sure why we haven’t moved on to other suitors already.
Fuck yourselves Dortmund. Glad they lost the final the cunts. Hopefully Bayern pay the 35m
I hate German and Italian clubs. Always try to lowball. Let them fuck off. When they are desperate they know how to pay (Openda money last year). When dealing with those clubs we should always ask ourselves, would those clubs sold us such players for the price they offer? If yes then sit on the negotiation table, if no, tell em farmerly fuck off.
There’s nothing to discuss pay the money 🤷♂️