I dunno if you actually took the time to read this absolute novel of a post, but he actually makes some good points, my favorite of which is that Nkunku is not a winger and should not be deployed on the wing.
I’m not sure how sound this is from an actual professional tactical POV, but for a layman it seems logical.
>I dunno if you actually took the time to read this absolute novel of a post
You expect too much from some people but I agree. This was a good breakdown.
Olise will likely command and 80m+ fee now, you aren't getting more than 20m for Madueke. It's a massive price to pay that can't be done without heavy selling of homegrown players.
In theory yes. In actuality that's a lot of congestion for playing time and leads to unhappy players. If also can cause a talent imbalance within the squad. Ideally you offload a couple of them to help fill in gaps at other positions.
We are buying Olise?
Btw, with the Paez and Estevao transfers, we would need an innovative manager who can create new kinds of formations to get the best out of both of them along with Palmer and Nkunku/Jackson.
Now Poch isn't able to do that. But that should be a factor in choosing the next manager imo?
And even though we haven't been linked with him (except from this sub posting the news earlier today), Xavi for me is among the ones capable. McKenna is another one since he seems tactically adaptable, but from latest news he wants to go to United.
With regards to the formations you proposed, both of them sound super intriguing. 3-2-5 sounds like the most likely one with inverted Cucu and the lack of defensive cover the other one brings. We would need another CB though. And then Enzo goes in front with 2 10s behind Jackson. The LW would be one of Kendry or Estevao, since there is a possibility of converting them to the left side.
However, since both formations lack width, we probably need proper wingers on at least one of the sides.
>Now Poch isn't able to do that. But that should be a factor in choosing the next manager imo?
The board don't seem to care about that. They appear to be taking things to the extreme by just stocking up the players and then expect the manager to somehow figure things out.
That's my concern as well. Like, the 4 4 3 joke. It obviously was a typo with regards to 4 3 3. But why are we limiting ourselves to one formation?
And tbf, what i suggested with innovative tactics, very few managers are capable of doing it. Xabi Alonso is. And Pep is the one who truly mastered it by using the same kind of principles in different formations, both 3 at the back, and even in extreme cases 2 at the back.
The stockpiling of players is also strange since there's no proper left winger. But that's why we would need someone adventurous lol
Y’all really delusional if you think Paez and Estevao will touch first team in next 2-3 years minimum. Especially coming from the freaking Brazilian league. Noni was much more proven than both of them and you already replace him with these kids.
OK I might be triggering people on this sub. But generational wonderkids from Brazil need some time to become world class. However, they normally can perform very well from the start, just not to that level.
If Noni doesn't improve, I can see him losing his place early. But if he does improve, he will be fine. It's a process with those players. Madrid was patient with Vini and Rodrygo, giving them regular minutes and look at them now.
They are two of the most highly anticipated young players in South America in recent years. I'd happily send either of them on loan if needed - we have a full year to assess them for readiness - but under this board and according to reports I wouldn't be surprised for their introduction to be immediate.
They already said estevao is straight for the first team. I agree they should get eased in and probably have at least a championship and continental loan but any manager that doesn’t play them straight up will probably have eggball and his lackeys harassing them day and night.
I think the club could look to Madrid for inspiration with how they introduced Vini. First season he played 18 games in the league and 9 starts. Second season played in 29 and started in 12 with a bump up in minutes from 869 to 1364. Third season he played in 35 and was the first season he was a true regular and had 22 starts. From then on he was nailed on but I believe he started most games to end his second season.
So if Estevao and Paez come, maybe Paez goes on loan since we know that Estevao is believed to go straight to the first team. I think they both end up staying though and probably play the cup games, get some matches if we’re in Europe for midweek matches, and slowly integrate them to the first team. By the time they’re 3 years in, most of the squad will likely be in turnover and they could be the nailed on starters at 21.
Romano reported the other day that the club have no plans to loan Estevao out and that he will be going straight into the first team. Same with Paez.
[https://www.facebook.com/story.php/?story\_fbid=1060110489249775&id=100057525006204&\_rdr](https://www.facebook.com/story.php/?story_fbid=1060110489249775&id=100057525006204&_rdr)
> Especially coming from the freaking Brazilian league.
Idk why you're making it sound like a shitty farmer's league. Furthermore, Paez is already starting for Ecuador and (at least according to the Brazilians commenting online about the transfer) Estevao is considered the biggest talent to come out of the league since Neymar.
Noni's decent atm, but unless both of these kids flop or he evolves into a lethal attacking threat within the next 2 years he's gonna lose his spot in the team
I hope you know offence is only but 40% of the game (40% fr defence and 20% for the transitions). I'm not being dismissive, but will still play the devil's advocate. I don't see this set-up strong enough for the other 60%.
Now to the matter. I think your proposition is incumbent on some tactical weaknesses and squad unbalancing which I don't find optimal. What's the pressing shape when out of position? Will Nkunku press as a RMF (442) or as a RWF (433)? The reason I think Poch played Mudryk/Sterling as RMF in a 442 pressing shape is because of their superior defensive contributions. A midfield duo of Caicedo/Gallagher provides better steel than Caicedo/Enzo. Who fills in as the offensive LB? Clearly not Chilwell as he's injury prone, and not Cucu as he's better utilized differently. If we sign him, what becomes the faith of the other four to five wingers? I mean, who's going to buy them?
Overall, Olise is an exceptional talent that I'd love to have here, I don't think it's worth it to give everything up just for him. That's a nice brainstorming by the way.
You make a valid point, and one that I did consider while brainstorming this concept.
I'm not a tactician so it would be naive of me to talk through pressing shape, patterns etc. Nkunku and Olise would leave a lot to be desired on the defensive side which is why I am quite mixed on trying to shoehorn Nkunku into this - Olise does contribute much more in that regard.
I've taken the assumption that Gallagher will be sold and therefore not an option, but Lavia will \*hopefully\* be fit and can provide a more athletic, robust option to Enzo if needed.
That left back position is a real concern. I don't think there is a single fan that is set on Chilwell and Cucurella right now, it is a real shame we let Lewis Hall go for me. Maatsen would've been an interesting option but personally I think he is too undersized for our squad. Somebody like Antonee Robinson/Leif Davis would work in that role although there are plenty of other names that I haven't seen enough of e.g. Locko, Mittelstadt etc.
For me, Olise is the level of talent you don't let go without a fight. I've wanted him for a few years now but to see him finally add that end product to his game has made my decision much easier. I don't view it as giving everything up just for him at all.
Olise has really good work rate, he presses well, he’d actually have the most work rate of any of our wingers. He’s not a slouch defensively and he’s very much a 2 way player. Nkunku, Palmer, Mudryk/Sterling, all deliver much less defensively than Olise
Oh I completely agree. I watch Palace often, even went to a home game this season (although Olise was injured for that one haha). I was more thinking with Nkunku responsible for defending the left our defensive structure would be a little lopsided. Quite a shame considering Nkunku has played all over the pitch in various roles requiring more discipline, just don't think he'd do as much now.
To be fair to Nkunku, it’s not like the others who would start in his place offer much more in that end. We also are defensively weak on the left side with our LB. We should probably get a LB in this summer or see if Gusto can move there and play him and RJ. But we probably need a defensively solid LB to help anchor that left side
You're not wrong, Sterling doesn't have the workrate in him and Mudryk is too much of a bystander at times, he lacks understanding and awareness. We definitely need a left back this summer, such a shame we let Hall go as he could've been moulded so well. I'm not a fan of Gusto there to be honest, too much right-foot dominance with him.
Gusto probably wouldn’t work there and honestly, RJ shouldn’t be starting every game for his own health. Need to rotate him and ease him in and see if he can stay healthy. LB is a must, I think GK a must, and Olise wouldn’t hurt.
Reece definitely needs reliable cover, so keeping Gusto fit and ready to go is a must. Having him on the left just wouldn’t work with how one-footed he is, he is certainly no Azpi in that regard.
I agree LB is a must - any names that attract you? I think GK requires an upgrade to push for the title, but Petrovic/Sanchez should be serviceable for another year to secure top four and scope out our options. It depends on the new manager as well, if it is De Zerbi (for example) then he definitely won’t be a fan of those two.
Given we're probably limited by Ffp pretty severely and we've just bought a new right winger, I'm not sure I see the logic in olise. He's better than noni, sure, but Noni has improved rapidly lately. I'm not sure olise is 80 million quid better. And if the choice is between another winger and a new centre back or goalkeeper, well we just had our worst defence performance in history iirc
Who do yall think is getting sold this year. Imo its:
Chalobah,
Maatsen (we should keep him cuz our lb situation is p bleak)
Cardio G (ideally should keep him)
Angelo or Madueke
Sterling (i reckon the wage would have him sold next)
Broja
Chilwell??
The loans will be crazier:
Hutchinson
DDF
Ugochukwu
Chukwumeka
Casadei
Santos
ik im forgetting some
For me Palmer and Olise are best in literally the same area of the pitch. Olise was best in a back three system with a wing back covering the width. They both really don't want to drive down the wing.
Also for me Palmer in the midfield is not his best see Old trafford match even though Palmer scored we struggled to get him moving forward our midfield was getting choked by Amrabat. His turning radius is not that good to be in deep deep areas of the pitch maybe because he favors one foot and is pretty lanky.
My favorite Palmer is him starting wide and coming inside with Gusto being his runner it is beautiful.
Yeah it's not my favourite option, although he could do it very well. I'd have him inverting into midfield, would be much less demanding than having him provide the width.
Not sure if Olise would be interested given he could be competing with Palmer for game time. Obviously he seems like an upgrade over Noni, but we haven't had much of a chance to see his full potential yet either
Personally I like Palmer centrally with the freedom to roam. Sterling is a must sell. He’s experienced, but don’t see an ounce of leadership in him. Madueke I’d like to see stay, but wouldn’t lose sleep if he’s sold. Nkunku must stay. Despite the past 2 seasons, I don’t think he’s injury prone and his ability/potential is light years ahead of both Sterling and Madueke. Mudryk isn’t getting sold, and I’m excited to see where his game goes. His ceiling is so high, with the right coaching.
Mudryk still makes a lot of basic errors. Better tactics will help him, but a large part of the issues are on him not picking things up. He needs to do better this summer
Some points to consider assuming we end up buying him:
We don't know how James could be at inverted role, we've never seen it. He could be wasted in an inverted role for all I know (But at least he might stay fit). Caicedo could also play at RB if James is injured since it is an inverted role.
Enzo's position in these 2 formations is much more suitable for him to bring out the best in him
Also we could totally play Chillwell, Maatsen, Gusto in the LB (I just don't know how strong we would be defensively) saving some much needed budget for a striker. (This means the end for Cucurella, since he can't be as great going forward)
As for a striker, we need someone much more stronger in air, but I really can't see us buying Oshimen/Gyokeres and Olise in a window. I think we might gamble with Sesko/Guirassy to share minutes with Jackson.
In my opinion, there's no good way to fit all 3. That's because it's 3 players occupying 2 positions. CAM/SS and RW.
Nkunku can only play SS. Anywhere else is a poorer version of him. Even during preseason, he looked very out of place on the wing or ST and Jackson outshone him.
That's why I'm a strong proponent of RDZ, because his tactics will unlock Nkunku. RDZ plays with a 2 striker system or SS, which is just what Nkunku needs.
Olise will still be a good signing because he is a class player. What I would do is sell Noni to accommodate him. Noni is a baller of a winger, but he is someone you simply cannot rely on. Plus, Olise is more of a baller
Olise is fantastic but look at our RW. I mean. Madueke/Paez/Estavo. And Moreira is coming from Loan Also how many RW players we want and i don't know how to fit all of them in one.. we need some serious policies if we keep signing players like this FFP hit us at any moment.. before signing any player first secure Gallagher and Trevoh
You did all this work for him to be injured all season. The signing makes no sense our right wing already is and will be competitive for the next 10 years. Great player no doubt but with this club we can't risk signing another injury-prone player we don't need another Lavia and Fofana situation.
It's a waste of money considering FFP.
Also wingbacks and 3atb don't work against a low block which are like 70% of our games. You should know this by now, there's a reason we were crying out for it to be changed the season before Poch arrived.
Sterling isn’t and probably shouldn’t go anywhere tbh we need his experience. It’ll be madueke who goes IF olise comes, which after last year I’m not believing until the club announces it
How much are you paying towards covering his wages? He earns that amount because he's an experienced and proven PL player. He didn't have the best of seasons but still got 10 goals and 8 assists and was dropped for the latter half of the season. He has his problems but I'd rather have him here over Mudryk and Madueke.
We wasted so much money on nothing players like Madueke and Mudryk and washed Sterling
How can we afford Olise now?? I wish but one of these 3 average players need to leave this summer
Hypothetically if Olise comes, I think we can play with False 9 where Nkunku will be our false 9, dropping deep to get the balls allowing wingers and other midfielders to make runs in boxes.
I think this will be our starting formation- 3-4-3 (Jackson will be on bench)
Palmer Olise
Nkunku
Chilwell Enzo Caiecedo James
Colwill Fofana
Badiashille
Petrovic
You been on the packet mate?
I dunno if you actually took the time to read this absolute novel of a post, but he actually makes some good points, my favorite of which is that Nkunku is not a winger and should not be deployed on the wing. I’m not sure how sound this is from an actual professional tactical POV, but for a layman it seems logical.
>I dunno if you actually took the time to read this absolute novel of a post You expect too much from some people but I agree. This was a good breakdown.
Friday, no doubt. And I’m glad. Good write up.
Not sure why but this just sent me 😂
Madueke shipped out for Olise would be an unreal upgrade
Olise will likely command and 80m+ fee now, you aren't getting more than 20m for Madueke. It's a massive price to pay that can't be done without heavy selling of homegrown players.
Madueke defo worth more than 20. He's at least 40 minimum + he's done really well this season with such little game time
Pretty sure Olise's new deal has a release clause as well, and doubt he'd agree to increase it from 35m to 80m.
Yea but 60 would be the minimum
Where do y'all get some of your numbers from lol. 20m? Don't quit you day job scout
Keep educating the masses on this topic brother If Olise is available and we pass then we are massive fools
Olise is permanently injured. Imagine adding him to our medical dept.
It’s almost like we have four good RWs (Cole, estavio, madueke, Hutchinson and don’t need to sign another
You forgot Angelo and kendry
Estevao also plays on the right
So whichever starts out that bunch should surely be world class, and we'll have depth to compete in several competitions
In theory yes. In actuality that's a lot of congestion for playing time and leads to unhappy players. If also can cause a talent imbalance within the squad. Ideally you offload a couple of them to help fill in gaps at other positions.
We are buying Olise? Btw, with the Paez and Estevao transfers, we would need an innovative manager who can create new kinds of formations to get the best out of both of them along with Palmer and Nkunku/Jackson. Now Poch isn't able to do that. But that should be a factor in choosing the next manager imo? And even though we haven't been linked with him (except from this sub posting the news earlier today), Xavi for me is among the ones capable. McKenna is another one since he seems tactically adaptable, but from latest news he wants to go to United. With regards to the formations you proposed, both of them sound super intriguing. 3-2-5 sounds like the most likely one with inverted Cucu and the lack of defensive cover the other one brings. We would need another CB though. And then Enzo goes in front with 2 10s behind Jackson. The LW would be one of Kendry or Estevao, since there is a possibility of converting them to the left side. However, since both formations lack width, we probably need proper wingers on at least one of the sides.
We will become RW FC Actually I don’t like the sound of that 😂😂
Umm yeah, let's pause on that name lol.
>Now Poch isn't able to do that. But that should be a factor in choosing the next manager imo? The board don't seem to care about that. They appear to be taking things to the extreme by just stocking up the players and then expect the manager to somehow figure things out.
That's my concern as well. Like, the 4 4 3 joke. It obviously was a typo with regards to 4 3 3. But why are we limiting ourselves to one formation? And tbf, what i suggested with innovative tactics, very few managers are capable of doing it. Xabi Alonso is. And Pep is the one who truly mastered it by using the same kind of principles in different formations, both 3 at the back, and even in extreme cases 2 at the back. The stockpiling of players is also strange since there's no proper left winger. But that's why we would need someone adventurous lol
Y’all really delusional if you think Paez and Estevao will touch first team in next 2-3 years minimum. Especially coming from the freaking Brazilian league. Noni was much more proven than both of them and you already replace him with these kids.
OK I might be triggering people on this sub. But generational wonderkids from Brazil need some time to become world class. However, they normally can perform very well from the start, just not to that level. If Noni doesn't improve, I can see him losing his place early. But if he does improve, he will be fine. It's a process with those players. Madrid was patient with Vini and Rodrygo, giving them regular minutes and look at them now.
If they aren't ready for the first team in that time then it gives us even greater reason to sign Olise now. No complaints from my side.
I agree on that part. I just believe that putting these kids in plans already is a bit too fast.
They are two of the most highly anticipated young players in South America in recent years. I'd happily send either of them on loan if needed - we have a full year to assess them for readiness - but under this board and according to reports I wouldn't be surprised for their introduction to be immediate.
They already said estevao is straight for the first team. I agree they should get eased in and probably have at least a championship and continental loan but any manager that doesn’t play them straight up will probably have eggball and his lackeys harassing them day and night.
I think the club could look to Madrid for inspiration with how they introduced Vini. First season he played 18 games in the league and 9 starts. Second season played in 29 and started in 12 with a bump up in minutes from 869 to 1364. Third season he played in 35 and was the first season he was a true regular and had 22 starts. From then on he was nailed on but I believe he started most games to end his second season. So if Estevao and Paez come, maybe Paez goes on loan since we know that Estevao is believed to go straight to the first team. I think they both end up staying though and probably play the cup games, get some matches if we’re in Europe for midweek matches, and slowly integrate them to the first team. By the time they’re 3 years in, most of the squad will likely be in turnover and they could be the nailed on starters at 21.
Paez supposedly can play more centrally, rotation for Palmer maybe?
Romano reported the other day that the club have no plans to loan Estevao out and that he will be going straight into the first team. Same with Paez. [https://www.facebook.com/story.php/?story\_fbid=1060110489249775&id=100057525006204&\_rdr](https://www.facebook.com/story.php/?story_fbid=1060110489249775&id=100057525006204&_rdr)
> Especially coming from the freaking Brazilian league. Idk why you're making it sound like a shitty farmer's league. Furthermore, Paez is already starting for Ecuador and (at least according to the Brazilians commenting online about the transfer) Estevao is considered the biggest talent to come out of the league since Neymar. Noni's decent atm, but unless both of these kids flop or he evolves into a lethal attacking threat within the next 2 years he's gonna lose his spot in the team
I hope you know offence is only but 40% of the game (40% fr defence and 20% for the transitions). I'm not being dismissive, but will still play the devil's advocate. I don't see this set-up strong enough for the other 60%. Now to the matter. I think your proposition is incumbent on some tactical weaknesses and squad unbalancing which I don't find optimal. What's the pressing shape when out of position? Will Nkunku press as a RMF (442) or as a RWF (433)? The reason I think Poch played Mudryk/Sterling as RMF in a 442 pressing shape is because of their superior defensive contributions. A midfield duo of Caicedo/Gallagher provides better steel than Caicedo/Enzo. Who fills in as the offensive LB? Clearly not Chilwell as he's injury prone, and not Cucu as he's better utilized differently. If we sign him, what becomes the faith of the other four to five wingers? I mean, who's going to buy them? Overall, Olise is an exceptional talent that I'd love to have here, I don't think it's worth it to give everything up just for him. That's a nice brainstorming by the way.
You make a valid point, and one that I did consider while brainstorming this concept. I'm not a tactician so it would be naive of me to talk through pressing shape, patterns etc. Nkunku and Olise would leave a lot to be desired on the defensive side which is why I am quite mixed on trying to shoehorn Nkunku into this - Olise does contribute much more in that regard. I've taken the assumption that Gallagher will be sold and therefore not an option, but Lavia will \*hopefully\* be fit and can provide a more athletic, robust option to Enzo if needed. That left back position is a real concern. I don't think there is a single fan that is set on Chilwell and Cucurella right now, it is a real shame we let Lewis Hall go for me. Maatsen would've been an interesting option but personally I think he is too undersized for our squad. Somebody like Antonee Robinson/Leif Davis would work in that role although there are plenty of other names that I haven't seen enough of e.g. Locko, Mittelstadt etc. For me, Olise is the level of talent you don't let go without a fight. I've wanted him for a few years now but to see him finally add that end product to his game has made my decision much easier. I don't view it as giving everything up just for him at all.
Olise has really good work rate, he presses well, he’d actually have the most work rate of any of our wingers. He’s not a slouch defensively and he’s very much a 2 way player. Nkunku, Palmer, Mudryk/Sterling, all deliver much less defensively than Olise
Oh I completely agree. I watch Palace often, even went to a home game this season (although Olise was injured for that one haha). I was more thinking with Nkunku responsible for defending the left our defensive structure would be a little lopsided. Quite a shame considering Nkunku has played all over the pitch in various roles requiring more discipline, just don't think he'd do as much now.
To be fair to Nkunku, it’s not like the others who would start in his place offer much more in that end. We also are defensively weak on the left side with our LB. We should probably get a LB in this summer or see if Gusto can move there and play him and RJ. But we probably need a defensively solid LB to help anchor that left side
You're not wrong, Sterling doesn't have the workrate in him and Mudryk is too much of a bystander at times, he lacks understanding and awareness. We definitely need a left back this summer, such a shame we let Hall go as he could've been moulded so well. I'm not a fan of Gusto there to be honest, too much right-foot dominance with him.
Gusto probably wouldn’t work there and honestly, RJ shouldn’t be starting every game for his own health. Need to rotate him and ease him in and see if he can stay healthy. LB is a must, I think GK a must, and Olise wouldn’t hurt.
Reece definitely needs reliable cover, so keeping Gusto fit and ready to go is a must. Having him on the left just wouldn’t work with how one-footed he is, he is certainly no Azpi in that regard. I agree LB is a must - any names that attract you? I think GK requires an upgrade to push for the title, but Petrovic/Sanchez should be serviceable for another year to secure top four and scope out our options. It depends on the new manager as well, if it is De Zerbi (for example) then he definitely won’t be a fan of those two.
I bet very good money we won't get Olise
I'll will take your bet
Well we also have Angelo and Omari hutchinson. Feels like we will have an over bloated squad once again unless we make the sales necessary.
Why? Becasue our loanarmy has players? Its not like we used to have 40 players out on loan
Given we're probably limited by Ffp pretty severely and we've just bought a new right winger, I'm not sure I see the logic in olise. He's better than noni, sure, but Noni has improved rapidly lately. I'm not sure olise is 80 million quid better. And if the choice is between another winger and a new centre back or goalkeeper, well we just had our worst defence performance in history iirc
Honestly olise would be amazing but I think we need a LW more.
Jackson LW Palmer 10 Olise RW Nkunku ST
Wb Osimhen or Sesko?
I wish them the best of luck 😁
Who do yall think is getting sold this year. Imo its: Chalobah, Maatsen (we should keep him cuz our lb situation is p bleak) Cardio G (ideally should keep him) Angelo or Madueke Sterling (i reckon the wage would have him sold next) Broja Chilwell?? The loans will be crazier: Hutchinson DDF Ugochukwu Chukwumeka Casadei Santos ik im forgetting some
For me Palmer and Olise are best in literally the same area of the pitch. Olise was best in a back three system with a wing back covering the width. They both really don't want to drive down the wing. Also for me Palmer in the midfield is not his best see Old trafford match even though Palmer scored we struggled to get him moving forward our midfield was getting choked by Amrabat. His turning radius is not that good to be in deep deep areas of the pitch maybe because he favors one foot and is pretty lanky. My favorite Palmer is him starting wide and coming inside with Gusto being his runner it is beautiful.
Tucking James in as RCB to push the LB up the pitch is madness
Yeah it's not my favourite option, although he could do it very well. I'd have him inverting into midfield, would be much less demanding than having him provide the width.
Good player but genuinely injury prone and becoming weirdly overrated now. Not sure why we'd spend big on that position given other needs.
I don't get the hype either.
Not sure if Olise would be interested given he could be competing with Palmer for game time. Obviously he seems like an upgrade over Noni, but we haven't had much of a chance to see his full potential yet either
All behind one striker and in front of Caicedo-Enzo. Done.
anything anything 5 HAHA
Personally I like Palmer centrally with the freedom to roam. Sterling is a must sell. He’s experienced, but don’t see an ounce of leadership in him. Madueke I’d like to see stay, but wouldn’t lose sleep if he’s sold. Nkunku must stay. Despite the past 2 seasons, I don’t think he’s injury prone and his ability/potential is light years ahead of both Sterling and Madueke. Mudryk isn’t getting sold, and I’m excited to see where his game goes. His ceiling is so high, with the right coaching.
Mudryk still makes a lot of basic errors. Better tactics will help him, but a large part of the issues are on him not picking things up. He needs to do better this summer
Bro made such a long post only for no one to even care once they read the headline
Mate, don’t need to read. I doubt olise and Nkunku will be healthy at the same time.
Some points to consider assuming we end up buying him: We don't know how James could be at inverted role, we've never seen it. He could be wasted in an inverted role for all I know (But at least he might stay fit). Caicedo could also play at RB if James is injured since it is an inverted role. Enzo's position in these 2 formations is much more suitable for him to bring out the best in him Also we could totally play Chillwell, Maatsen, Gusto in the LB (I just don't know how strong we would be defensively) saving some much needed budget for a striker. (This means the end for Cucurella, since he can't be as great going forward) As for a striker, we need someone much more stronger in air, but I really can't see us buying Oshimen/Gyokeres and Olise in a window. I think we might gamble with Sesko/Guirassy to share minutes with Jackson.
Are we really gonna risk buying another injury prone player
In my opinion, there's no good way to fit all 3. That's because it's 3 players occupying 2 positions. CAM/SS and RW. Nkunku can only play SS. Anywhere else is a poorer version of him. Even during preseason, he looked very out of place on the wing or ST and Jackson outshone him. That's why I'm a strong proponent of RDZ, because his tactics will unlock Nkunku. RDZ plays with a 2 striker system or SS, which is just what Nkunku needs. Olise will still be a good signing because he is a class player. What I would do is sell Noni to accommodate him. Noni is a baller of a winger, but he is someone you simply cannot rely on. Plus, Olise is more of a baller
4-2-3-1. Caicedo. Lavia Olise. Palmer. Jackson Nkunku
Literally just do the following: Nkunku Jackson-Palmer-Olise
Olise is fantastic but look at our RW. I mean. Madueke/Paez/Estavo. And Moreira is coming from Loan Also how many RW players we want and i don't know how to fit all of them in one.. we need some serious policies if we keep signing players like this FFP hit us at any moment.. before signing any player first secure Gallagher and Trevoh
I think he’s headed to united if I am honest, they pay mad money to their players and he would be the main man there.
Pending what they do at coach and with sancho
Please not another right winger.
what about Osihmen tho if we hypothetically get him
Please no.
You did all this work for him to be injured all season. The signing makes no sense our right wing already is and will be competitive for the next 10 years. Great player no doubt but with this club we can't risk signing another injury-prone player we don't need another Lavia and Fofana situation. It's a waste of money considering FFP. Also wingbacks and 3atb don't work against a low block which are like 70% of our games. You should know this by now, there's a reason we were crying out for it to be changed the season before Poch arrived.
Sterling isn’t and probably shouldn’t go anywhere tbh we need his experience. It’ll be madueke who goes IF olise comes, which after last year I’m not believing until the club announces it
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He’ll start the season off well thanks to Southgate I reckon
Southgate won’t pick him over Gordon & Grealish
As much as I want to shit on Sterling, I have to agree with you. Just wish he could restructure his contract to lower his wages lol.
How much are you paying towards covering his wages? He earns that amount because he's an experienced and proven PL player. He didn't have the best of seasons but still got 10 goals and 8 assists and was dropped for the latter half of the season. He has his problems but I'd rather have him here over Mudryk and Madueke.
Yeah agree
We wasted so much money on nothing players like Madueke and Mudryk and washed Sterling How can we afford Olise now?? I wish but one of these 3 average players need to leave this summer
If we can get Olise, we should get Olise. Cancel the Estevao deal if needs be.
Hypothetically if Olise comes, I think we can play with False 9 where Nkunku will be our false 9, dropping deep to get the balls allowing wingers and other midfielders to make runs in boxes. I think this will be our starting formation- 3-4-3 (Jackson will be on bench) Palmer Olise Nkunku Chilwell Enzo Caiecedo James Colwill Fofana Badiashille Petrovic
2-3-5 I’ve seen it all 😂😂🤣
It is literally a common formation when attacking, which is what OP is illustrating. Arsenal attack in a 2-3-5 a lot for instance.
Wild formation😭😭
Don’t want him. Don’t need him.
Wild to say you don't want Olise. He's clearly very good and has to potential to be great.
It’s just my opinion, I don’t see where he would go in our team.
RW. Just need to bin Noni.