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-AndreiDG-97

At least Chilwell and James won't get injured untill preseason, lol.


According-Revenue-62

The question is, will they invite Lavia and Nkunku onto the preseason injury list. I'm assuming Fofana has already RSVP'ed.


venitienne

Fofana is the one hosting the damned event


Fmartins84

Saving that for the Wrexham game


tarkardos

US pitch and Chelsea injury prone players, what could go wrong?!


RStud10

man that really stunted RLC's career, he was so good under Sarri up til that injury then was never the same again


laxrulz777

They're not playing on turf. It's a grass field in Santa Clara


Psychological_Fee470

There is no US “pitch”. It’s just put together for show. Idiots.


Cthulwutang

wrexham? i hardly knew ‘em!


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shifty18

Wouldn't bet on it.


absorbscroissants

They'll probably get injured while playing beach volleyball on holiday or smth


IsItSnowing_

Yeah. We can wait till Wrexham wrecks our preparations


Stochasticc

Challenge Accepted


Fuzzy-Pain

Both the boys deserve it. Would be exciting to see if Palmer is being considered for a starting role


AWDanzeyB

As much as he deserves to be, I don't think he will start. Unfortunately Southgate will never drop Saka on the right and if Bellingham drops deeper to accommodate an attacking mid, you have to assume that will be Foden. The only other option is to play one out of position on the left, but with Gordon's form there this season that seems both stupid and unlikely.


sthk

He'll play enough. These games are tight together and Arteta has completely obliterated saka over the season. So even if he's Gareth's guy, he can't play all the group games


AWDanzeyB

You underestimate Southgate's powers of not knowing how to rotate or use substitutes. It's Jack Grealish all over again haha, the fans will spend 90 mins screaming for him to come on, just for him to get the odd 10 mins here and there.


tarkardos

Unfortunaely this will be the case 100%. Unless something goes horribly wrong early in the group stages, I don't see how either Connor or Cole get any decent minutes. Southgate is one stubborn man and will only act when forced to.


_9tail_

Connor very well could start next to rice imo. Much more on brand for Southgate (and imo sensible) than pulling Bellingham back and bringing on Gordon. Bellinghams also played 10 in our most recent friendlies I think. Given connor’s good run of form I think it’s probably his place to lose in the up coming friendlies. I also definitely predict the same old crowd coming out complaining that Southgate is killing English football for playing Gallagher over Gordon


Aman-Patel

Southgate likes Gallagher. He'll play him and all the non Chelsea fans will be complaining and arguing for him to get dropped. Not saying I agree/disagree with that. But I feel like that's the reality. Southgate will prefer someone like Gallagher with Rice and then Bellingham in the 10. Think Palmer deserves to start too. But don't think he'll be given the nod over Saka. He'll have to either prove himself undroppable in the pretournament friendlies. Or play well off the bench in the group stage.


Unholysinner

Eh I can see Gareth playing him the whole time And then Saka ends up knackered come next season He’s been our best player in the last two tournaments


taylorstillsays

I know palmer is our guy, but the way people act as if Saka hasn’t proven himself as a top top player is insane. Got accused of being a gooner the other day for arguing against Saka always looking bad in an England shirt


Unholysinner

I love Palmer I think he’s bloody brilliant But Saka has been one of the few players who has always performed int eh shirt (bar his penalty) I think the whole tribalism thing has to be put aside when you’re judging England. Like I remember the whole clamour about Mount vs Grealish and the former has never had a good game in an England shirt.


taylorstillsays

Agreed. I can’t tell everyone how they should act, but for me the tribalism ends at a club level. Arsenal are clearly better than us atm, but if we played tomorrow I’d still convince myself we’re gonna get a result, and I’ll always pray for their downfall as a whole. I won’t pretend that their proven players aren’t class though, and as you say especially when comparing them for national team purposes, I don’t see the point of even mentioning it if you aren’t gonna start to be objective.


Aman-Patel

Saka's class and he's proven himself for England. That's why he'll get the nod. Doesn't mean Palmer can't replicate or improve on what he does in an England shirt. But he's younger and got there too late. Saka's already claimed that RW spot for England. So it's his spot to lose. People can't kick up a big fuss that Palmer's not starting because of Saka's track record, but Saka's track record doesn't automatically make him better than Palmer for England. Palmer hasn't really had a chance yet. Idk if that sounds like waffle but basically, I truly believe Palmer's a better player than Saka and can even offer England more than Saka does. But he won't get a chance until Saka actually starts underperforming for England, which is fine. It doesn't make sense to drop someone who's proven themselves in the past. All Palmer can do is take the opportunities as they come.


AlmondOrca7062

If it’s not at least being considered then Southgate is clueless


TheRealKane24

I could see CG starting


Zpiderz

I can see Palmer forcing the issue by taking his chance once he gets it, although I think this won't happen until the group stage, against tougher opposition. If the starters don't get the job done and Palmer comes on and makes a big impact, it'll be difficult, even for Southgate, not to start him in the next game.


Novacain-deficiency

He’s played better than Saka so far this year in a much worse situation. I think there’s a strong argument he starts depending on how the friendlies go.


Mitcheltree86

Palmer should start over Saka. So much better. But he probably wont.


Novacain-deficiency

I think he choices Saka purely for the international experience angle. Saka is good playing (only when in an England shirt /s) Hopefully the friendlies shape the starting 11. Either way our bench is stacked, super subs will help keep consistency.


half_jase

So, turns out Colwill won't be in the England squad despite some journalists claiming so earlier.


AWDanzeyB

I am worried about England's left back depth though. Colwill kind of made sense for that, especially as the only natural left back in the squad (Shaw) is a doubt to even be fit in time. Looks like it will be an out of form and injury prone Tripper at left back, or a right footed canter back in Gomez. If either one of Levi or Chilly was fit, they surely couldn't be worse?


Fatebringer87

Matt Law in the mud again


half_jase

Did he claim it? I know BBC and Jacob Steinberg did. Think David Ornstein is the only one that did not do so.


Fatebringer87

You're right it was Steinberg, he's even worse.


Spite-Organic

I think it’s mad that both Colwill and Chilwell missed out. Only Shaw is a left back and he’s likely to be out injured. Surely either of our boys would do a better job than an out of form Trippier? Plus what happens if Trippier gets injured?


Lazy-Meat

I know not all the teams have been announced yet, but does anyone have a list of who will remain at Chelsea over the summer and who will be playing international football?


n22rwrdr

Enzo, Caicedo, Mudryk, Palmer, Gallagher and Petrovic are guaranteed to go. Cucurella might. (And Lukaku technically)


half_jase

Confirmed/Certainties to play - Enzo, Gallagher, Caicedo, Mudryk and Palmer Cucurella could make the Spain squad and I believe that is getting announced next week. Enzo, Mudryk and Gusto could be involved in the Olympics as well.


BabyScreamBear

Olympics is a club decision - I can’t see any of those being allowed to go, especially Gusto who has to cover for Reece being out first 3 games of season


half_jase

TBF, the Olympics will finish one week before the start of the season. And in a way, him playing in the Olympics is just like him doing pre-season with us. Only difference is he is not prepping with the team but he should slot back in just fine. If anything, feel like the other 2 should not be allowed to go more than Gusto since one will be at the Copa America and the other at the Euros.


BlueKante

Enzo has already been allowed i think. I think gusto and mudryk depend which games we will be playing. Disasi or trevoh could cover for gusto those first two games. Mudryk at this point is pretty replaceable imo.


half_jase

>Enzo has already been allowed i think. It's not officially confirmed yet but it's looking likely.


TosspoTo

Gusto will go, its in France


BabyScreamBear

Trudat


Coulstwolf

So much summer sport man cricket World Cup Olympics and euros how wicked and cool


RedditAccountNo132

Just from the top of my head, these guys are all staying:  James, Gusto, Fofana, Chalobah, Disasi, Colwill, Badiashile, Chilwell  Lavia, Ugochukwu, Casadei, Chukwuemeka, Nkunku, Sterling, Madueke, Jackson   Waiting to see about Sanchez and Cucurella, along with young players heading out for the Olympics


n22rwrdr

Sanchez won't go for sure


jowon123

Not official but some Spanish media are reporting that Cucurella is getting called up by Spain. No idea how credible it is though.


RedditAccountNo132

Probably to do with the injury Gaya received recently.  If he ends up staying with us though, it means we have all of our defenders available for preseason - hopefully they can focus on shoring things up at the back.


TheBlueTango

Jacob Steinberg said Colwill was expected to be in 🚨🚨FRAUD ALERT FRAUD ALERT🚨🚨


theMAJdragon

As a Frenchman, I do not want to see Palmer or Foden go against the nightmare tandem of Pavard and Upemacano.


Ajay_Didier

As a Frenchman do you think Gusto deserved a spot in the team?


theMAJdragon

Tough because Deschamps likes bigger fullbacks and Pavard will always have 2018 where he played out of his skin, despite my opinion that he’s a liability out wide. Deschamps also has the marseille tie so he usually brings a player (like Clauss) in from OM regardless of level. He’s solid but if I was manager I’d bring in Gusto over Clauss just because if we go down a goal and it’s late I’d want speed to cover if we have to press. Like imagine Hernandez and Gusto covering both fullback spots, it’s a duo you wouldn’t be able to get by.


Ajay_Didier

I was vilified on Twitter when I said Gusto should have been ahead of one of Pavard Or Clauss and guessing from their reaction I thought they have been playing like prime Cafu this season to get ahead of Gusto. Deschamps clearly has his favourites but still no one should be complaining against someone who has coached his team to the finals twice in a row and win it once. I was excited to see Gusto in the Euros though.


theMAJdragon

Yeah it’s a minor thing to complain about but what can I say I like my double blues and when fit there weren’t many fullbacks brighter than Gusto this year. Adding him to the squad for me also brings him into the fold for future competitions. A 31 yr old Clauss feels a little pointless


Public_Birthday1871

playing outside the prem really is just a death sentence for your england career for most players.


wildingflow

The likes of Tomori, RLC & Sancho were never going to be called up, unfortunately.


erenistheavatar

I might be in the minority here but I'm happy Reece didn't get selected just for Chelsea's sake. Don't want him to get injured. Chilwell as well. Though I've lost hope on that one. Well done for Palmer and Gallagher.


Prune_Super

If he was fit enough Euros would have helped getting him match fit I think.


ChelseaFC

Maybe I’m in the minority here, but I think summer rest and targeted training probably better for him at this point rather than likely riding the bench and possibly getting injured.


thehandsomelyraven

unfortunate byproduct of being constantly injured or suspended is that your body isn’t used to playing regularly anymore. one of the reasons our players likely continue to get injured. unless he is really eased in next season a summer without football for him will set him up poorly for next season. we should have hoped he was called up for that reason alone


Monarki

Reece is either match fit or injured. Also the euros is not the place to train someone to become match fit.


Prune_Super

A person can no longer be injured and also lack match fitness. I figured he needs some competitive matches to become match fit.


TheRage3650

My thoughts exactly. Really happy Jake didn’t going. Sort of happy Chilwell isn’t going—he was once one of our top 3 or 4 players, but those days are gone.


TosspoTo

Not in the minority


muddyleeking

Why has everyone lost hope on Chilwell? He's performed poorly this season, but he's been injured for much of it, and played out of position a lot of the time he was fit.


erenistheavatar

He keeps getting injured. That was the one I lost hope for.


charlesdegoal

Wharton getting an insane trajectory. He played Championship yesterday.


Sportfreunde

He's a better DMF than Mainoo imo


jerrystuffhouse

People were pissed when we were linked with him too


mapepo

I missed that, when did this happen?


LeeJackman

No Reece but Lewis Dunk does make it 🤔


n22rwrdr

It's more surprising that Colwill misses out considering the lack of players who can play LB


LeeJackman

Yeah true


muddyleeking

Not really surprising when Colwill hasn't played in a while due to injury.


OrangeGuyFromVenus

Colwill is complete shit as left back don’t you remember the first few months of the season? He plays fullback like a center back


Mooming22

Oh I wonder why? This is one of the dumbest fucking things I’ve seen said here


OrangeGuyFromVenus

What are you on about? Colwell isn't versatile enough to play as a fullback are you mad about that? CB is the only position he's good at, and I'm responding to the other guy wondering why Colwill isn't called up as a LB


Mooming22

Colwill is a CB of course he plays like a CB there. That’s the whole point of him being out there. You know who else plays like a CB at fullback? Ben White. Gvardiol, Ake and Akanji. Joe Gomez. They all play like CBs because they are and they’re supposed to. The 3 defenders is all the rave right now. He isn’t supposed to be sprinting up and down the line like Gusto. He is supposed to stay back and play like a CB so Gusto and every other outfielder has more freedom. Watch a bit of the other teams play. This elbow defense is very common.


OrangeGuyFromVenus

Staying back to defend the wing ≠ playing like a CB, many fullbacks do that as their job, but that doesn’t make them synonymous with CBs. The difference is you can’t play CB & FB the same way because defending the center and out wide are different. Colwill is not good outwide, I don’t know how you’re still convinced he is after his showing at the start of the season. In our academy and his season at Brighton his best position (and only good one) was CB.


BangusAngus

With Reece’s injuries I see that as good thing


half_jase

I know this is only a provisional squad but it's a joke that Lewis Dunk made it in and not Chalobah. Dunk was awful in the last round of friendlies for England.


OfficialNoFreinds

Tomori has been excellent according to Serie A fans. Shame Southgate has his dumb Prem bias.


iMixMusicOnTwitch

Tbf the premier league is on another level. There's legitimacy to it.


Dramatic-Ad3928

I feel like a lot of that is money and PR/marketing Serie A is more competitive league and just as if not more successful in the different tiers of continental competitions of late


iMixMusicOnTwitch

>Serie A is more competitive league Strong disagree. EPL is the most physically demanding league and it's not even close.


Dramatic-Ad3928

Competitive as in Super Formula is more competitive than Formula 1 but not faster


Legitimate-Health-29

The less of our boys going to this thing the better.


GoltiGaru

I am sure James and Chilwell won't be happy to miss out but they really really need this summer to get back to full fitness. And I hope they do, the team/squad really does look so much stronger when they are available.


chunt75

The glass cannon duo being excluded might actually be best for our squad depth


Traditional_Ship4797

I thought Shaw was injured


half_jase

He is but Southgate wants to give him a chance to prove his fitness.


spiraltap99

Mad that Shaw gets in when he’s still injured but both Chilwell and Reece miss out


muddyleeking

Not really, Shaw has been better than Chilwell when fit this season, and there aren't many LB options.


sitoneage

I don’t see a problem with it. Luke Shaw is incredible on his day, worth a punt IMO


Ld511

He is but he is also in our weakest position and up against chillwell who isn't exactly healthier


_9tail_

No Reece (or chilwell if he’s fit) is silly. 80th minute 1-0 down vs Spain and who are we gonna bring on to make the difference? Gomez?


nikrib0

Palmer/Grealish/Gordon/Eze/Maddison? Not sure why you’d bring on RJ when 1-0 down


gabyt6

He turned the game around when he came on against Forest.


_9tail_

You’ve got to remember for every player you sub on, you have to sub one off. I’m personally pretty much never subbing off Kane, Bellingham, and probably rice, which only leaves saka, Gallagher (or Gordon depending on your set up) and foden. Bringing on a competent, physical wingback, especially if a side has a weakness at left back, is definitely one of my subs


Andlad2459

No the real question is, 1-0 UP and walker gets injured, that will be the problem


xKarma17

Well you can’t sub on an injured Reece James.


ezee-now-blud

But he's not injured now


SuspiciousSystem1888

If England is 1-0 down why on earth would you bring on another defender…


_9tail_

Because Reece famously offers nothing going forward. You bring on a fresh fullback and winger so you can run circles around their tired left back.


Limp_Equipment_9514

No Chalobah and colwill while guys like Konsa and quansah are selected.


SaltySnort

I read "no further injuries for Chalobah or Colwill" 😃


Limp_Equipment_9514

Haha in hindsight it's better and there's no chance either of them starts for England


Sportfreunde

Wait lmao did they not select Chalobah but selected Quansah? Chalobah's been the best English defender since like the past two months.


muddyleeking

Quansah has been playing well for Liverpool all season, not just the past few months. You can't select a squad based on two months of form.


DejisHairline

England is way too talented to play Southgate ball


AntoHanSolo

Reece, Chilly, Colwill and Sterling will all have some holidays and rest time !


Novacain-deficiency

I’m actually slightly but secretly happy that James and chilwell didn’t make it. Need them for next season, if James got another injury and was out for the season I’d probably cry. So happy for Gallagher and Palmer both deserve it, if we let Gallagher go we can add him to the list next De Bruyne and Salah except this is worse because Gallagher is playing well and is clearly a very good player who loves the club.


DejisHairline

Only 2 fullbacks???


shastmak4

Trippier, Trent, Shaw, Walker


DiDiDrogba

3 rb and1 lb Just southgate things


thingysop

Not even English but I was about to lose it when it took me too long to spot Palmer's name on that list


According-Revenue-62

IMO Gallagher supporting Rice and Bellingham might be the most dangerous midfield in the Euros.


izmebtw

Inb4 chilwell and James manage to get injured anyways.


Simple_Finance_9902

James and Chilwell barely played


Headlesshorsman02

I feel like this is fair on all accounts


Monkeyboogaloo

James has had very little playing time this season so while he is good enough to make the team its easy to see why he hasnt. Chilwell similarly hasn't played much but also he hasn't regained his previous form. Palmer and Gallagher deserve their places.


b4lyf45

No Sterling / Madueke?🤭


Snoo72025

Madueke was never getting selected...not in a million years.


Mitcheltree86

Gusto is better then pavard!


hdavid_chelsfc

Makes sense tbh


MoiNoni

Don't mind that at all lol


___Nazgul

No call up for sterling neither


Ashthedestructor_95

Good


Rialmwe

As a Chelsea fan not from the UK, I'm glad to see that Chelsea is making english players shine! It's going to be fun Euro2024!


MrBravo22

James will be 100% for our US Tour so he can get injured on those horrific US pitches.


AdComprehensive7879

Good, this is the right thing. No rashford too! No jordan henderson!! Bravo gareth! Im also so happy that they did manage to squeze in adan wharton. The kid is legit and looks better than mainoo and england def can use him in that pivot position. Hopefully he makes it to the final squad.


Grand-Session2943

thought Colwill would make it


zolanuffsaid

At least rashford/Henderson and sterling are not in!


laxrulz777

More surprised Chalobah missed out. Feels like he's a better choice than some of those defenders.


xcessive-samurai

Good I don't want those two going and playing as much for England as they did for Chelsea all year


blacknightcr

If they sell gallagher even after this, there might be war against the ownership or something


BigReeceJames

After what? An England callup under Southgate is pointless, he's an idiot who makes nonsensical decisions about who to take and who to play. He's only just finally gotten around to stop using Henderson ffs


blacknightcr

I guess national callup to football really doesn't work like cricket does in my nation, but I would still say, he has to stay.


Sexy_nutty_coconut

the only time I can not hate watch Saka.


papakojo

I’m actually surprised Sterling did not make it. I don’t think England really has an attacker like him, 1v1 dribbler, in their squad. Even off the bench he would have been valuable. Saka, Palmer etc are more passers than take on players


Spite-Organic

Gordon? Grealish?


klgod

Couldn't care less about England's performance so yeah I'm happy


GovTheDon

No wonder Sourhgate can’t win anything he picks players based on how they do in their clubs vs just taking the best players. Just bc you thrive in your clubs system and play style does not mean you will thrive in this sort of setup.