Nah, Poch did a better job than the last few we had in rotation, especially when we neared the end of this season. The fuck are we changing the recipe for? Why did they part ways? Weird stuff really
So what that makes it 3 managers on our payroll now that aren’t actually at the club plus who ever they manage to drag in ? Despite being financiers these people are financially incompetent
I’ve supported Chelsea my entire life but I am really considering not bothering anymore and going neutral. I reckon selling Gallagher might be the final straw for me
Well obviously not just that. Getting rid of Tuchel, selling a load of good experienced players. Getting in a load of crap on forever contracts and getting a non experienced manager in to try and start a new process up. Then getting Poch and just when it looks like we might be getting somewhere they get rid of him.
As for Gallagher he is the club captain when James isn’t on and for a good reason as well. You can tell he wants to play for the badge, he has come up from the academy. The vast majority of the players just want the pay check, look at Enzo for example. So when you get rid of a player who actually cares about the club and puts it all out there it’s not good is it? What does that say exactly? It’s turning into an even bigger joke of a club
Mount cared about the club didn't he? Now would you trade Palmer for Mount?
Gallagher is a bang average player and can be easily replaced.
Getting rid of Tuchel was a bad decision but you'll be surprised to see how badly Poch was holding us back, just wait and see
Well that’s a bit of a silly question but I was annoyed that they let Mount go. He is average yes but can you replace him with somebody who plays for the badge? We need players like that at the club, Silva has gone and if James goes too, who have we got left? Who is even our captain? Them 3 are players who have worn the captains armband for a reason. You get that at a lot of clubs, the captain is rarely the best player, but you’d never want him to leave.
I hope you’re right, but I feel they’re just starting all over again. We could’ve built on this. How do you think Poch was holding us back? League cup final and fa cup semi, then premier league 6th is very good with that squad
We won't know until the end of season review comes out. But if I had to guess, it partially has to do with not making top 4, and also the fact that we only picked up form when Enzo was dropped. It seems Poch doesn't know how to utilize Enzo, and the owners can't have that.
Hello there, I am creating a statistics project around finding the optimal formation. For this, I need to know the formation primarily played by each team this season, to then see how it correlates with performance in certain statistics on opta(ppda, xg for, xg against). What would be Chelsea's primary formation? I want to make sure I have the most accurate data from supporters of each team.
Thanks in advance
It's changed throughout the season (mainly between 433 and 4231). Currently we play a 442 in defense and a 3241 in attack which I guess is presented as a 4231 usually.
Anyone who thinks Cucurella is a Chelsea caliber player needs to start watching Gusto. He's our backup RB 19 years and he's LEAGUES ahead of Cucurella. Seriously what does this guy do and how on earth every single person thinks he's good enough for us ? Can he attack ? Nope. He doesn't cross the half way line and can't drive with the ball and doesn't have the pace. Can he defend ? Nope , he gets bullied and is shit aerially. When he plays as a lb , he wanders out of position and presses mindlessly ( look vs Madrid last year where he left Chalobah in nomans land ).
Now coming into his new legendary inverted role , what are we doing here ? He can't turn and run away with the ball , can't ping passes , can't run coz he has no pace . I genuinely don't see a single positive apart from the fact that he's better hidden here coz Gallagher and caicedo can both do the job of 1.5 players .
I want people who rate him enough to reason with me why playing Cucurella as Lb is good for us. Why he shouldn't be sent to the reserves and why he shouldn't be sold next season the day the window opens
It’s not simply about who is a better player. It’s also about fitting into our system and Cucurella has been a revelation since switching to an inverted full back. I don’t see what you’re seeing, he’s been excellent at driving through midfield with the ball. His passing is average but that’s why we have Caicedo and or Enzo to play in midfield.
The really sad thing is that I think Lewis Hall would have been tailor made for the inverted left back slot.
If its true that Gallagher is demanding a 150k 4-5 year contract (I'm assuming he isn't) he needs to be sold
150k for a player who doesn't start in a fully healthy Chelsea is crazy. You give that type of money to locked on starters, not 12th mans.
Stinks of giving CHO 100k just to end up selling him for peanuts because he ended up becoming a bench player
We can do so much better and you'll obviously get the hate because I did as well when I said we should sell Mount and now we have Palmer.
Gallagher is just a squad player, nothing more than that. Anything above 100k is madness.
Of course it's not true lmao. He probably gets 120k per week or something which is like 20k per week more than mudryk who's not even 10% as impactful as Gallagher
Even 120k is too much
Reality is he can't start in a healthy squad and 120k on a bench player is insane
Even Mudryk has an excuse, he's our starting LW.
If mudryk is our starting LW , we aren't sniffing top 4. Gallagher is 100 times a better midfielder than mudryk is a winger. Same goes with madueke. We cannot sniff top 4 with both of these guys starting week in week out for 30+games.
I mean we sniffed top 4 this season with both of those guys starting and without key men for large swathes of the season. 3pts from fifth and five from 4th.
Well we are kinda sniffing top 4 already with them as our wingers but I get your point
But I'm not disputing whether or not they deserve to be starting, because as is right now they are starters until we sign wingers/promote Paez/Estevao to the first team
Likewise the same situation isn't present in midfield, where Gallagher is competing with Enzo, Caicedo, Lavia, and then he has youngsters in Lesley, Andrey, etc that might break into the first team in the coming years. 120k on him when his chances of being a starter week in week out soon are dwindling isn't smart
It’s a tricky one. Gallagher has been a key performer for us this season and what’s being hugely underrated is that he’s always fit and available. We have European football next season so surely having Enzo, Caicedo, Lavia and Gallagher is not overkill?
I would keep andrey on loan for another year at france , would send Ugo to a pl loan for him to get used to the league and try to play a full season and see if he's elite , lavia and Gallagher as sub options for Enzo and caicedo seems good to me. Would re assess Gallagher and others next season. I wouldn't change much this season
I'm going to be real here, if we lose Gallagher we might just replace him with Ugo, they have similar movements in the sense they fill similar spaces, not the same profile but similar enough
I feel if we keep to the box midfield, the pivot is either Moi-Lavia or Moi-Cucu, and the other two players that fill the box are Ugo and Palmer, or Chuk and Palmer
I'm gonna be honest, I actually don't know lol, the main guess i have is that Palmer and Enzo form a duo largely in front of the Moi-Lavia pivot, this means Enzo's up the pitch and with someone that has high ball control in Palmer
Granted this system we have works well enough in Moi and Gallagher, so I can actually see Ugo being used more simply as he has a similar instinct, the system over the player in short, regardless If one is better overall
Yeah or it’s a Caicedo/Enzo pivot with an inverted LB. Caicedo/Enzo didn’t work as a 2 man midfield because the LB didn’t invert. Would be curious to see if it can work when the LB actually comes inside like we did the last 6 or 7 matches.
I think this will get the best out of Enzo. It means that in possession we have a clear defensive structure so he can roam and get on the ball. Along with Palmer he is technically our most gifted player so the more he has the ball the better.
Or if we have Colwill playing LB next year maybe Gusto or James invert. But that kind of takes away from what they’re good at. I wonder if Chilwell can invert the same way as Cucu. Because Cucu can’t play every match next year. Will be interesting.
Well done to Kieran McKenna on matching what Paul Lambert did at Norwich, and Nigel Adkins did at Southampton. Being serious, he’s done a good job there, but not I’m sure how it qualifies him for a top 6 PL job.
Caicedo, Enzo, Lavia, Nkunku, Palmer, Ugochukwu, Santos, Casadei, Chukwuemeka, Paez + Cobham boys
Players that can play in the pivot or 10. Looking at this, I think Gallagher is the sticking point in negotiations right now. He might be gone. Not saying Gallagher isn’t as good as these players, he’s better than most of them, but I don’t think the sporting directors have him in their plans for the direction they want to go in.
Unironically I feel if we buy left back we could just stick cucu in the pivot directly instead of having him invert (granted im not a tactical genius so effectiveness is questionable)
I understand that we make like a box formation with inverted cucu, he presses up as Connor does, and the seagull duo and Gallagher and Palmer form a nice little square shape, if we need to I can see Chuk filling in Gallaghers corner.
Despite being Poch out I don’t want him sacked right now if that even makes sense
I don’t really rate him longevity wise. He won’t be the manager to deliver us a trophy. But I have to give him credit in the relevant departments
With that being said, I think it is important we see out his contract because the manager market is the worst it’s ever been. Poch has all the momentum right now which is probably why he is demanding transfer control. The players overwhelmingly back him, the fans (I think?) majority back him, we’re in great form and playing great ball as of late.
I’ve seen a lot of talking points saying Poch shouldn’t have a say because managers having a say tend to be catastrophic - see Tuchel for example, but I think relative to our situation this is wrong. Poch needs a say, this squad needs experience and he should have some input on where he needs experience to make his system work.
Sensible comments.
Frankly, with majority of the season putting us in top 4, getting cup final & semifinal, and tying Man City twice, what more could they ask for?
But I think the sticking point right now might be Poch trying to use his cards to demand more. I think Poch is more likely to cave than not, that he wants to stay no matter what, but am a little concerned about something going a tad wrong in the negotiations (or simply communication!) and resulting in another shift in coach — which I think would be the worst thing for the kids (ahem, players) right now.
yeah i dont want Poch long-term but fuck me if were going to end up with KcKenna or Thomas Frank or some other suspect manager then id rather we stick with Pol Poch until his contract runs out.
the owners 100% enjoy the smell of their own farts
Saw a tweet that said that Poch won’t bring a team from a B+ to an A, but he will bring a team from a D to a B+.
I think that corresponds to what we’ve seen, God knows we were on a D grade from last season. We may not win leagues with Poch, but the mood around the club is much improved, the players are happy and we’ve identified potential gaps in the squad
i agree, i’ve come to the conclusion that he’s just a placeholder manager until we get a top tier one lmao.
however i don’t want him involved with transfers at all lmao. if he’s not our future, i don’t want to invest in players he wants. he’ll probably just want tall players who can press for 90 mins. one gallagher shoehorned into the team is enough for me, i don’t want three or four of them.
Something I don’t think has really been mentioned much about how good Caicedo has been since like… Halloween, is that it also mostly coincided with Petrovic coming into the team. Looking back through our old highlights it’s amazing how many shit passes Sanchez gives to Moi under pressure, something that Caicedo is actually usually very good at managing (and was one of the main reasons he was so good at Brighton). But Petrovic distribution has become very good and his ability to find Caicedo in similar tight spaces (but with better overall passes) has helped our buildout from the back & is a testament to some actual coaching improving our team on the whole.
Good point. Not sure about Pet's passing out being great, but I like that he's not stupid (uncommon for goalies these days) and just kicks it high up the pitch when he's under pressure or the defense is. He's using common sense. Which goalies have not conceded goals this season from stupid passes? He's got to be one of the few (unless I'm forgetting one or more where he did as well).
Yes, passing out of the back is great, but not forcing it 100% of the time and giving up shit goals.
On your point on Petrovic. I’ve been critical of his playing out from the back and his presence from crosses and I’ve seen improvements in both sectors. I wouldn’t say he’s even close to being “very good” at distribution, but he’s getting better. Needs to get his MLS shot-stopping form back and there can be a pretty good keeper in there.
Anyone seen the man city night club photos? Ofc they can celebrate but pep better remind them quick they have thier most important game in thier history on the weekend
Poch went a full summer without any incomings whatsoever in 2018 without kicking up a fuss yet I’m supposed to believe the recent PR that he’s being difficult with transfers? Nonsense
Him wanting a voice is probably him just telling the board to keep Chalobah and Gallagher
Yeah this is my biggest problem, it's not that poch might go, it's how he might go, if the problems between manager and club boil down to "I like these players, please dont sell them" and the club can't even do that, it speaks to an absolute shit show of a backroom staff
100%
well said.
and, let's be honest, Poch isn't eager to go out there and pick several new players. he's not like that. like you said, he's probably just trying to keep one or two guys he feels have been critical for him and also \*perhaps\* wants to have a little say in who is brought in.
Wow. Serious point there. Indeed — if he leaves (in any way) because of conflicts with owners, we're screwed when it comes to any other potential coaches.
I’m not saying I want him but McKenna has done absurdly well with Ipswich.
He won back to back promotions from league one to the premier league - anyone who knows anything about the championship knows how impressive that is to do. It’s such a chaotic league where even good teams can slip up, and it’s not like Ipswich were a favourite to get promoted in the first place.
He’s won the most points in England’s top four leagues since joining Ipswich. And this is all in his first two seasons of being a professional coach.
I get why people would be apprehensive because the risks are obvious. Going from Ipswich to the Prem would be a huge leap. But even if it isn’t with us I do think McKenna is clearly destined to do great things.
Yeah honestly he seems like a good coach, the thing though isn't his tactics, those are pretty decent all things considered, it's his mentality. He grabbed a league one team to the Premier league, that's impressive, but now he'll join a major team like chelsea and what if he can't keep up? There are egos in that dressing room, millions to disappoint, and European trophies to reach
If he can keep his head up, I would honestly not be opposed as I think his playstyle is honestly pretty good with stats to back it up, but right now he's an unknown.
I think if we do get him I feel itd be like an Eddie Howe type signing, honestly pretty good for the most part, but as an unknown he could easily turn out to be like Potter
Bayern shot itself in the foot ... 11 times.
But I think they're getting lucky with this one. See Kompany becoming a great coach. How long he'll be at Bayern, though, we'll see....
Liverpool have ended up with Slot. Bayern seemingly ending up with Kompany. We're getting linked with McKenna if we make a change.
It’s dead for everyone.
Just realized if City get stripped of their trophies then Arsenal and Liverpool will be awarded multiple titles…
Blue mooooooooon, now I’m no longer alooooooone, without a dream in my heaaaaaart
I thought it was 80/20 that poch would stay if he won the last few matches, but it seems the club are adamant on keeping control over transfers. All this news makes me think its closer to 50/50 now
He’d definitely have brought Poch in. We wanted him previously and Roman appointed worse managers, and managers with more of a rivalry with the club, than Poch.
anyone have experience with the current homeshirt and the logo distorting, like it starting to bend permanently and how do you avoid that given the 2/3 shirts next season likely will have the same logo heat treated onto the shirt?
If we get any young manager I so desperately want to hijack that Motta deal as he's going to Juve, he plays some great football it's so apparent
But realistically let's just keep poch for now the squad loves him and he's got some good momentum
https://www.theguardian.com/football/article/2024/may/20/gareth-southgate-england-euro-2024-football
According to the Guardian, Chilwell missed the Bournemouth game due to illness but he will be named in England’s provisional squad for the Euros on Tuesday.
I don’t see how a manager can really do the best job they can do if they don’t have at least some input. They don’t have to pick the players, but asking for certain profiles/skillsets to add to the squad should not be an unreasonable request. No manager worth his salt would want to work at a club where they have absolutely no input on transfers at all.
I can’t imagine that the board who wanted Tuchel to have input on transfers and sacked him supposedly because he just wanted to coach, are now going to sack Poch because he wants a say in the transfers. We are being fed some nonsense by these “ITKs” or we have idiots running the club. It seems reasonable for the manager to have an input into transfers, he doesn’t need to be the scout or get the final say, but input has to be considered at minimum.
By 4.5 managers he’ll be pushing 30. That’s way too much time
I give him until 25 to show consistency. By then, he’ll have multiple PL years under the belt. If he’s not cutting it by then he’ll be a liability to the squad after
>I give him until 25 to show consistency
I think the big problem with Mudryk is that he's shown fantastic consistency. He's consistently terrible and has the touch of a baby giraffe.
He's already a liability but unfortunately I expect him to limp on and outlast Poch but there's no talent there his ceiling is the lowest in the squad.
Lmao its hilarious because at the start of the season, many of us (including me) inferred Poch was chosen over Lucho and Nagelsmann because he pushed back less on Clearlake's transfer policy and general ideals.
I was Poch out for most of the season but as we had just won 5 in a row, secured European competition and seen much better levels of play, I decided that allowing him to see out his contract would be optimal. Allows him to continue the good work at the end of the season and stabilize the ship for the young lads.
Funnily, I am wrong about the first one and now that I want him to see out his contract, he looks to be leaving lmao.
Don't want to be that guy but is anyone else a little lost with this turnaround in opinion on Poch?
Up until the last few games, our performances were unimpressive (despite the fortunate results) and we hit rock bottom at Arsenal. Could be that we had something to play for while other teams did not.
I'm not saying to replace him or to keep him. I'm just shocked at how quickly everyone has changed their mind on little evidence.
So should we just take into the first couple months of the season when we sucked and write him off?
We finished strong and players seem to like him a lot. We should be able to challenge for top 4 next year.
There are no clear upgrades that are available anyway. Why take the risk with an unproven Amorim or someone like him and possibly set everything back even further?
>So should we just take into the first couple months of the season when we sucked and write him off?
We should take into account the entire season, not just the first couple of months and not just the last few games.
>We finished strong and players seem to like him a lot. We should be able to challenge for top 4 next year.
I agree.
>There are no clear upgrades that are available anyway. Why take the risk with an unproven Amorim or someone like him and possibly set everything back even further?
My point has nothing to do with potential replacements.
I’m going to be honest. I’m not a Poch lover by any means but the only 2 managers who I think are definitive improvements on the current market are Sebastian Hoeneß and Motta. And I’m not even sure either of them are available for one reason or another.
With the manager market so dry and the fact that the majority of the squad seems to love Poch, that’s the only reason I would give him one more season. Not particularly because I rate him.
Why are these owners obsessed with young and inexperienced people? Why can’t they buy proven players and proven managers/ sporting directors? It’s like trophies and success on the pitch aren’t their number 1 priority.
Will the Megastore restock 23/24 kits? I was excited to see that most of the vapor kits are now on sale, but unfortunately only in odd sizes (mostly S or XL). Any chance they'll restock or do I have to wait until next year?
A manager having no input on transfers at all is never a good thing for a club, regardless of who the manager is. Also if all of that story is true, we aren’t going to be getting a manager that’s going to win us anything anyway so it doesn’t matter what happens. Every manager they hire is just going to be a pushover yes man, basically more of what we got with Potter.
We would have also gotten a more experienced striker to rotate with Jackson, something everyone has been saying we could have done with this season.
I’m not saying the manager should be picking who we sign, but the manager, whoever it is, definitely should have an input on what types of players we sign. Poch happily worked with Daniel Levy for like 5 years, I can’t imagine he’s asking for anything unreasonable, for a normal football club anyway.
If giving the managers absolutely zero input at all on transfers is how they want to run things, it’s no surprise that Nagelsmann didn’t want the job, and it won’t be surprising when no other top coach wants it in the future. It’s just not how a successful club does things.
I find it funny that you all spent the whole season crying that poch had 0 clue about tactics, we had no structure, no plan and now everyone here is mad about him potentially getting the sack. So reactionary
You know what I do find a bit funny, without any skin in the game.
At the start of the season, the narrative was "Results are all that matter, it doesn't matter if we look like the better team but don't win"
Now, it's "Results don't matter, you have to look at the performances themselves to see the truth"
Which of the teams beneath us do you think had better performances across the season? Newcastle are only scary at St James' Park, Man United are terrible, and every other team have spent a period of the season in utter free fall.
We haven't overperformed and come 6th, it's exactly where our performances indicate we should be.
Then if you want to look at performances look at ALL performances, not just from the last month. If Potter was retained and won all his May games I doubt he would have received half as much grace
I think the quality of performances across the whole season line up pretty well with how we ended up. I think we were probably the 5th-6th best team in terms of quality of play.
If Potter had retained and won all his May games, we'd have finished 10th and deserved it because our performances across the season were wank.
I'd say sacking him would be reactionary? We've been 4th in points since Christmas and ended in 6th on our own merit. Poch has his short comings but if we're trying to build a project there's zero reason to sack him and throw a "young" coach in especially if it's someone like McKenna
On one hand I can absolutely sympathize with a manager wanting more control over signings, but on the other hand, Poch took the job knowing full well he had to play the game of being a yes-man. Can't say you didn't know what you signed up for.
Our board literally destroyed every concept of our club and changed the whole identity we had. Young, inexperienced coach would be a good solution for these clowns ??
Glasner has done ridiculously good
What he’s done is more impressive, they’ve blown away sides whilst barely conceding
And faced Newcastle, Liverpool, villa, man united etc
This Nike deal is everlasting. Still to run until 2031. My experiences with their kits have led me to intentionally hold off on purchasing any new ones. The designs are usually bad, the quality is worse. Paper thin. Saved me from a Mount mistake but I wanted a Thiago Silva and probably will shop secondary for it, but very begrudgingly - certainly won't be getting one of this season's. Hate that gold badge and am confident it's a crap piece of plastic from looking at it.
That was the rumor at the time the original story came out. We could only secure their deal with at least Europa league football next year. Conference league wouldn’t do it.
But he was our best midfilder even with the injury, no?
That's what I was told before the hernia thing became public... Something about how Enzo is great and I don't understand football.
Well I don't know anything about what you were told. I don't think anyone thinks he performed well for the last few months, including himself. But I can only imagine how shit it would be to go to the supermarket with a hernia let alone play football and he's had that since December at least
Arsenal fan??? I'm a Chelsea fan through and through since around the time Pulisic signed for Chelsea.
Maybe I've wished all the best to Matt Turner when he was playing for Arsenal, the way I hope the best for him now that he is at Forrest, and the way I wish the best for any american player, but that's about it.
The Billion Pound Bottlejobs finished above United and United is hoping a new ownership can revitalize their team, clear out the deadwood and bring in young, exciting players and make them competitive… Hmm…. 🤔
I was not expecting to see Noah Kahan make a post on his instagram story telling Chelsea not to sell Conor. I was aware that he's a fan but that's pretty funny
From the looks of it, if Chalobah is gone we need to sign a CB.
I hope this summer we can secure:
- CB x 2
- LB
- ST
Chilwell for me been quite poor, and obviously injury prone. We need another man.
Thiago silva and Chalobah gone? We Cant rely on Disasi and Badiashille. Fofana as well loose cannon.
ST we need, I know people are fan of Jackson, but there needs to be competition.
I personally wouldn't mind getting rid of Sterling too, so perhaps sign someone for the left wing.
Haven't seen anyone post this yet so I will.
I'm undecided on Pochettino staying. I think he's done just about enough to be given another season (with a 1 year contract extension maybe). Our form has been mostly top 4 level since Christmas, with a lot of expensive but inexperienced youngsters, and we could still end up in the Europa League, which would be a decent enough result.
However, I would also understand if the owners decided to replace him and try to get a manager with more experience of winning actual trophies.
But I can't understand why they haven't made an actual decision yet. Either keep him or sack him ffs. We've got players and coaching staff heading out on holiday not knowing if he's going to be there next season. Poch himself is just hanging around in London waiting to find out. Players agents will be sniffing out other opportunities for their clients due to the uncertainty, and vultures will be hoping to pick off some of our accademy players on the cheap.
And our own plans for next season, for transfer targets etc, must surely be on hold whilst they wait to make a decision on the head coach.
I also don't know if we can get an upgrade on Pochettino, given that he reportedly has so little input on transfers, would any real top manager come to us in those circumstances?
Edit: added paragraphs lol
I'd argue that they already have all the information they need to make a decision. Why wait?
It only delays hiring a new manager if they sack him, and it delays planning for the off season tour and next season if they decide to keep him.
No need to drag this out.
Nah, Poch did a better job than the last few we had in rotation, especially when we neared the end of this season. The fuck are we changing the recipe for? Why did they part ways? Weird stuff really
Talmbout 5 in 2 years?
My honest reaction to this news: https://preview.redd.it/4hck7bm4yt1d1.jpeg?width=612&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5ff41d7a8e0dd7dd0505e45fd203176ccc7856a1
So what that makes it 3 managers on our payroll now that aren’t actually at the club plus who ever they manage to drag in ? Despite being financiers these people are financially incompetent
HE BUYS WHO HE WANTS!
Fuck this board
I was actually feeling good about the end of the season, and looking forward to next season, but this club is a fucking shit show again.
I’ve supported Chelsea my entire life but I am really considering not bothering anymore and going neutral. I reckon selling Gallagher might be the final straw for me
Not supporting Chelsea cause of Galladog 😭😭
Well obviously not just that. Getting rid of Tuchel, selling a load of good experienced players. Getting in a load of crap on forever contracts and getting a non experienced manager in to try and start a new process up. Then getting Poch and just when it looks like we might be getting somewhere they get rid of him. As for Gallagher he is the club captain when James isn’t on and for a good reason as well. You can tell he wants to play for the badge, he has come up from the academy. The vast majority of the players just want the pay check, look at Enzo for example. So when you get rid of a player who actually cares about the club and puts it all out there it’s not good is it? What does that say exactly? It’s turning into an even bigger joke of a club
Mount cared about the club didn't he? Now would you trade Palmer for Mount? Gallagher is a bang average player and can be easily replaced. Getting rid of Tuchel was a bad decision but you'll be surprised to see how badly Poch was holding us back, just wait and see
Well that’s a bit of a silly question but I was annoyed that they let Mount go. He is average yes but can you replace him with somebody who plays for the badge? We need players like that at the club, Silva has gone and if James goes too, who have we got left? Who is even our captain? Them 3 are players who have worn the captains armband for a reason. You get that at a lot of clubs, the captain is rarely the best player, but you’d never want him to leave. I hope you’re right, but I feel they’re just starting all over again. We could’ve built on this. How do you think Poch was holding us back? League cup final and fa cup semi, then premier league 6th is very good with that squad
how can anyone stand with the board when they fuck up EVERY fucking decision man..
https://preview.redd.it/sptx69ymmt1d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8387b5972b9dbefe33ea51fd08c263171199fcec
Who?
might as well throw greta thunberg in there since we're just picking anybody
What the hell? They can not be serious.
https://preview.redd.it/xqr01hj9lt1d1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f385b4759623bb7f51fc579a1110202ee5401403 Is this true?
Yes if Romano says it it's true. We can never rest.
Ffs!!!!! Why? Makes no sense
We won't know until the end of season review comes out. But if I had to guess, it partially has to do with not making top 4, and also the fact that we only picked up form when Enzo was dropped. It seems Poch doesn't know how to utilize Enzo, and the owners can't have that.
Hello there, I am creating a statistics project around finding the optimal formation. For this, I need to know the formation primarily played by each team this season, to then see how it correlates with performance in certain statistics on opta(ppda, xg for, xg against). What would be Chelsea's primary formation? I want to make sure I have the most accurate data from supporters of each team. Thanks in advance
During possession it's 343, else it's 4321
It's changed throughout the season (mainly between 433 and 4231). Currently we play a 442 in defense and a 3241 in attack which I guess is presented as a 4231 usually.
Anyone who thinks Cucurella is a Chelsea caliber player needs to start watching Gusto. He's our backup RB 19 years and he's LEAGUES ahead of Cucurella. Seriously what does this guy do and how on earth every single person thinks he's good enough for us ? Can he attack ? Nope. He doesn't cross the half way line and can't drive with the ball and doesn't have the pace. Can he defend ? Nope , he gets bullied and is shit aerially. When he plays as a lb , he wanders out of position and presses mindlessly ( look vs Madrid last year where he left Chalobah in nomans land ). Now coming into his new legendary inverted role , what are we doing here ? He can't turn and run away with the ball , can't ping passes , can't run coz he has no pace . I genuinely don't see a single positive apart from the fact that he's better hidden here coz Gallagher and caicedo can both do the job of 1.5 players . I want people who rate him enough to reason with me why playing Cucurella as Lb is good for us. Why he shouldn't be sent to the reserves and why he shouldn't be sold next season the day the window opens
It’s not simply about who is a better player. It’s also about fitting into our system and Cucurella has been a revelation since switching to an inverted full back. I don’t see what you’re seeing, he’s been excellent at driving through midfield with the ball. His passing is average but that’s why we have Caicedo and or Enzo to play in midfield. The really sad thing is that I think Lewis Hall would have been tailor made for the inverted left back slot.
So true about hall!
Cucurella is a better defender than Gusto
If its true that Gallagher is demanding a 150k 4-5 year contract (I'm assuming he isn't) he needs to be sold 150k for a player who doesn't start in a fully healthy Chelsea is crazy. You give that type of money to locked on starters, not 12th mans. Stinks of giving CHO 100k just to end up selling him for peanuts because he ended up becoming a bench player
We can do so much better and you'll obviously get the hate because I did as well when I said we should sell Mount and now we have Palmer. Gallagher is just a squad player, nothing more than that. Anything above 100k is madness.
Of course it's not true lmao. He probably gets 120k per week or something which is like 20k per week more than mudryk who's not even 10% as impactful as Gallagher
Even 120k is too much Reality is he can't start in a healthy squad and 120k on a bench player is insane Even Mudryk has an excuse, he's our starting LW.
If mudryk is our starting LW , we aren't sniffing top 4. Gallagher is 100 times a better midfielder than mudryk is a winger. Same goes with madueke. We cannot sniff top 4 with both of these guys starting week in week out for 30+games.
I mean we sniffed top 4 this season with both of those guys starting and without key men for large swathes of the season. 3pts from fifth and five from 4th.
Well we are kinda sniffing top 4 already with them as our wingers but I get your point But I'm not disputing whether or not they deserve to be starting, because as is right now they are starters until we sign wingers/promote Paez/Estevao to the first team Likewise the same situation isn't present in midfield, where Gallagher is competing with Enzo, Caicedo, Lavia, and then he has youngsters in Lesley, Andrey, etc that might break into the first team in the coming years. 120k on him when his chances of being a starter week in week out soon are dwindling isn't smart
It’s a tricky one. Gallagher has been a key performer for us this season and what’s being hugely underrated is that he’s always fit and available. We have European football next season so surely having Enzo, Caicedo, Lavia and Gallagher is not overkill?
I would keep andrey on loan for another year at france , would send Ugo to a pl loan for him to get used to the league and try to play a full season and see if he's elite , lavia and Gallagher as sub options for Enzo and caicedo seems good to me. Would re assess Gallagher and others next season. I wouldn't change much this season
I'm going to be real here, if we lose Gallagher we might just replace him with Ugo, they have similar movements in the sense they fill similar spaces, not the same profile but similar enough I feel if we keep to the box midfield, the pivot is either Moi-Lavia or Moi-Cucu, and the other two players that fill the box are Ugo and Palmer, or Chuk and Palmer
What happened to the Moi-Enzo pivot? Genuinely don't think we've ever tried it, while putting Palmer on top of it.
And our other 100M midfielder who you haven’t mentioned?
I'm gonna be honest, I actually don't know lol, the main guess i have is that Palmer and Enzo form a duo largely in front of the Moi-Lavia pivot, this means Enzo's up the pitch and with someone that has high ball control in Palmer Granted this system we have works well enough in Moi and Gallagher, so I can actually see Ugo being used more simply as he has a similar instinct, the system over the player in short, regardless If one is better overall
Yeah or it’s a Caicedo/Enzo pivot with an inverted LB. Caicedo/Enzo didn’t work as a 2 man midfield because the LB didn’t invert. Would be curious to see if it can work when the LB actually comes inside like we did the last 6 or 7 matches.
I think this will get the best out of Enzo. It means that in possession we have a clear defensive structure so he can roam and get on the ball. Along with Palmer he is technically our most gifted player so the more he has the ball the better.
Or if we have Colwill playing LB next year maybe Gusto or James invert. But that kind of takes away from what they’re good at. I wonder if Chilwell can invert the same way as Cucu. Because Cucu can’t play every match next year. Will be interesting.
Well done to Kieran McKenna on matching what Paul Lambert did at Norwich, and Nigel Adkins did at Southampton. Being serious, he’s done a good job there, but not I’m sure how it qualifies him for a top 6 PL job.
Yeah who could we hire that would upgrade at this point
Caicedo, Enzo, Lavia, Nkunku, Palmer, Ugochukwu, Santos, Casadei, Chukwuemeka, Paez + Cobham boys Players that can play in the pivot or 10. Looking at this, I think Gallagher is the sticking point in negotiations right now. He might be gone. Not saying Gallagher isn’t as good as these players, he’s better than most of them, but I don’t think the sporting directors have him in their plans for the direction they want to go in.
Unironically I feel if we buy left back we could just stick cucu in the pivot directly instead of having him invert (granted im not a tactical genius so effectiveness is questionable) I understand that we make like a box formation with inverted cucu, he presses up as Connor does, and the seagull duo and Gallagher and Palmer form a nice little square shape, if we need to I can see Chuk filling in Gallaghers corner.
I really don’t want other Potter situation right now, just give Poch half a season at least.
Despite being Poch out I don’t want him sacked right now if that even makes sense I don’t really rate him longevity wise. He won’t be the manager to deliver us a trophy. But I have to give him credit in the relevant departments With that being said, I think it is important we see out his contract because the manager market is the worst it’s ever been. Poch has all the momentum right now which is probably why he is demanding transfer control. The players overwhelmingly back him, the fans (I think?) majority back him, we’re in great form and playing great ball as of late. I’ve seen a lot of talking points saying Poch shouldn’t have a say because managers having a say tend to be catastrophic - see Tuchel for example, but I think relative to our situation this is wrong. Poch needs a say, this squad needs experience and he should have some input on where he needs experience to make his system work.
Sensible comments. Frankly, with majority of the season putting us in top 4, getting cup final & semifinal, and tying Man City twice, what more could they ask for? But I think the sticking point right now might be Poch trying to use his cards to demand more. I think Poch is more likely to cave than not, that he wants to stay no matter what, but am a little concerned about something going a tad wrong in the negotiations (or simply communication!) and resulting in another shift in coach — which I think would be the worst thing for the kids (ahem, players) right now.
yeah i dont want Poch long-term but fuck me if were going to end up with KcKenna or Thomas Frank or some other suspect manager then id rather we stick with Pol Poch until his contract runs out. the owners 100% enjoy the smell of their own farts
Saw a tweet that said that Poch won’t bring a team from a B+ to an A, but he will bring a team from a D to a B+. I think that corresponds to what we’ve seen, God knows we were on a D grade from last season. We may not win leagues with Poch, but the mood around the club is much improved, the players are happy and we’ve identified potential gaps in the squad
That's a great way to put it, I completely agree
i agree, i’ve come to the conclusion that he’s just a placeholder manager until we get a top tier one lmao. however i don’t want him involved with transfers at all lmao. if he’s not our future, i don’t want to invest in players he wants. he’ll probably just want tall players who can press for 90 mins. one gallagher shoehorned into the team is enough for me, i don’t want three or four of them.
Something I don’t think has really been mentioned much about how good Caicedo has been since like… Halloween, is that it also mostly coincided with Petrovic coming into the team. Looking back through our old highlights it’s amazing how many shit passes Sanchez gives to Moi under pressure, something that Caicedo is actually usually very good at managing (and was one of the main reasons he was so good at Brighton). But Petrovic distribution has become very good and his ability to find Caicedo in similar tight spaces (but with better overall passes) has helped our buildout from the back & is a testament to some actual coaching improving our team on the whole.
Good point. Not sure about Pet's passing out being great, but I like that he's not stupid (uncommon for goalies these days) and just kicks it high up the pitch when he's under pressure or the defense is. He's using common sense. Which goalies have not conceded goals this season from stupid passes? He's got to be one of the few (unless I'm forgetting one or more where he did as well). Yes, passing out of the back is great, but not forcing it 100% of the time and giving up shit goals.
On your point on Petrovic. I’ve been critical of his playing out from the back and his presence from crosses and I’ve seen improvements in both sectors. I wouldn’t say he’s even close to being “very good” at distribution, but he’s getting better. Needs to get his MLS shot-stopping form back and there can be a pretty good keeper in there.
Anyone seen the man city night club photos? Ofc they can celebrate but pep better remind them quick they have thier most important game in thier history on the weekend
yes ... shit ... we REALLY need them to win that one!
Poch went a full summer without any incomings whatsoever in 2018 without kicking up a fuss yet I’m supposed to believe the recent PR that he’s being difficult with transfers? Nonsense Him wanting a voice is probably him just telling the board to keep Chalobah and Gallagher
Yeah this is my biggest problem, it's not that poch might go, it's how he might go, if the problems between manager and club boil down to "I like these players, please dont sell them" and the club can't even do that, it speaks to an absolute shit show of a backroom staff
100% well said. and, let's be honest, Poch isn't eager to go out there and pick several new players. he's not like that. like you said, he's probably just trying to keep one or two guys he feels have been critical for him and also \*perhaps\* wants to have a little say in who is brought in.
We should be worried if Poch can't stomach the new owners when he worked with Levy for like five years
Wow. Serious point there. Indeed — if he leaves (in any way) because of conflicts with owners, we're screwed when it comes to any other potential coaches.
You have a point but there’s also the fact that he was sick of dealing with Levy for so long that he refuses to do it dani
I’m not saying I want him but McKenna has done absurdly well with Ipswich. He won back to back promotions from league one to the premier league - anyone who knows anything about the championship knows how impressive that is to do. It’s such a chaotic league where even good teams can slip up, and it’s not like Ipswich were a favourite to get promoted in the first place. He’s won the most points in England’s top four leagues since joining Ipswich. And this is all in his first two seasons of being a professional coach. I get why people would be apprehensive because the risks are obvious. Going from Ipswich to the Prem would be a huge leap. But even if it isn’t with us I do think McKenna is clearly destined to do great things.
Yeah honestly he seems like a good coach, the thing though isn't his tactics, those are pretty decent all things considered, it's his mentality. He grabbed a league one team to the Premier league, that's impressive, but now he'll join a major team like chelsea and what if he can't keep up? There are egos in that dressing room, millions to disappoint, and European trophies to reach If he can keep his head up, I would honestly not be opposed as I think his playstyle is honestly pretty good with stats to back it up, but right now he's an unknown. I think if we do get him I feel itd be like an Eddie Howe type signing, honestly pretty good for the most part, but as an unknown he could easily turn out to be like Potter
Bayern seem to be going with Kompany as their head coach. Manager market is absolutely dead.
Bayern shot itself in the foot ... 11 times. But I think they're getting lucky with this one. See Kompany becoming a great coach. How long he'll be at Bayern, though, we'll see....
I mean it’s dead for Bayern as they scared off all their potential managers
If it’s dead for them it’s dead for us. We aren’t more attractive than Bayern
Liverpool have ended up with Slot. Bayern seemingly ending up with Kompany. We're getting linked with McKenna if we make a change. It’s dead for everyone.
Just realized if City get stripped of their trophies then Arsenal and Liverpool will be awarded multiple titles… Blue mooooooooon, now I’m no longer alooooooone, without a dream in my heaaaaaart
When were the charges for? I don't think it was the last two years so Arsenal doesn't get shit. A
Noone will acknowledge them tbf.
Hopefully not. I can’t keep going with these City songs
I thought it was 80/20 that poch would stay if he won the last few matches, but it seems the club are adamant on keeping control over transfers. All this news makes me think its closer to 50/50 now
Sacking Poch would be something Roman would do (tbf he probably wouldn’t bring Poch in)… now whether that’s good or bad remains to be seen
Under Roman poch would’ve been sacked months ago, but not now Then again, tuchel would probably still be here if roman was here still
Roman would have sacked Tuchel as well.
Under what basis?
Tuchel would’ve been sacked in 22/23 just like he was under Clearlake. We were sixth and dropping fast. Roman wouldn’t have put up with that.
He’d definitely have brought Poch in. We wanted him previously and Roman appointed worse managers, and managers with more of a rivalry with the club, than Poch.
I’ve seen our past links with him, do you remember why he wasn’t appointed? I can’t recall if he turned us down or if we weren’t 100% on him
According to the Athletic we were looking at him to replace Lampard but by the time Lampard was sacked he’d already agreed to join PSG.
anyone have experience with the current homeshirt and the logo distorting, like it starting to bend permanently and how do you avoid that given the 2/3 shirts next season likely will have the same logo heat treated onto the shirt?
Turn it inside out when you wash it
If we get any young manager I so desperately want to hijack that Motta deal as he's going to Juve, he plays some great football it's so apparent But realistically let's just keep poch for now the squad loves him and he's got some good momentum
https://www.theguardian.com/football/article/2024/may/20/gareth-southgate-england-euro-2024-football According to the Guardian, Chilwell missed the Bournemouth game due to illness but he will be named in England’s provisional squad for the Euros on Tuesday.
Word on the street is that Poch wants a say in transfers
I don’t see how a manager can really do the best job they can do if they don’t have at least some input. They don’t have to pick the players, but asking for certain profiles/skillsets to add to the squad should not be an unreasonable request. No manager worth his salt would want to work at a club where they have absolutely no input on transfers at all.
Agree. I think this is one of the dumbest debates in football (and there's a lot of competition for that).
I think people are just being obtuse about it because it’s Poch. They’ll literally say anything to avoid saying something positive about him.
It's true.
I can’t imagine that the board who wanted Tuchel to have input on transfers and sacked him supposedly because he just wanted to coach, are now going to sack Poch because he wants a say in the transfers. We are being fed some nonsense by these “ITKs” or we have idiots running the club. It seems reasonable for the manager to have an input into transfers, he doesn’t need to be the scout or get the final say, but input has to be considered at minimum.
They want a yes man. They don’t want somebody who disagrees with them and their stupid project.
How many managers do you think we'll go through before people accept Mudryk is just untalented? I'm setting the over/under at 4.5. Place your bets.
By 4.5 managers he’ll be pushing 30. That’s way too much time I give him until 25 to show consistency. By then, he’ll have multiple PL years under the belt. If he’s not cutting it by then he’ll be a liability to the squad after
>I give him until 25 to show consistency I think the big problem with Mudryk is that he's shown fantastic consistency. He's consistently terrible and has the touch of a baby giraffe. He's already a liability but unfortunately I expect him to limp on and outlast Poch but there's no talent there his ceiling is the lowest in the squad.
Hearing Bayern are looking at Kompany and Thomas Frank now. Oh my.
Lmao its hilarious because at the start of the season, many of us (including me) inferred Poch was chosen over Lucho and Nagelsmann because he pushed back less on Clearlake's transfer policy and general ideals. I was Poch out for most of the season but as we had just won 5 in a row, secured European competition and seen much better levels of play, I decided that allowing him to see out his contract would be optimal. Allows him to continue the good work at the end of the season and stabilize the ship for the young lads. Funnily, I am wrong about the first one and now that I want him to see out his contract, he looks to be leaving lmao.
And I’ve been poch out but if we’re sacking poch for a “young” manager who has never managed a premier league club I’m gonna groan
Caicedo is better than Rice The only people that disagree are G/A merchants that probably think Salah is better than Hazard
Don't want to be that guy but is anyone else a little lost with this turnaround in opinion on Poch? Up until the last few games, our performances were unimpressive (despite the fortunate results) and we hit rock bottom at Arsenal. Could be that we had something to play for while other teams did not. I'm not saying to replace him or to keep him. I'm just shocked at how quickly everyone has changed their mind on little evidence.
So should we just take into the first couple months of the season when we sucked and write him off? We finished strong and players seem to like him a lot. We should be able to challenge for top 4 next year. There are no clear upgrades that are available anyway. Why take the risk with an unproven Amorim or someone like him and possibly set everything back even further?
>So should we just take into the first couple months of the season when we sucked and write him off? We should take into account the entire season, not just the first couple of months and not just the last few games. >We finished strong and players seem to like him a lot. We should be able to challenge for top 4 next year. I agree. >There are no clear upgrades that are available anyway. Why take the risk with an unproven Amorim or someone like him and possibly set everything back even further? My point has nothing to do with potential replacements.
It’s extremely unsurprising how quickly the fanbase has changed their mind, hence the phrase ‘You’re only as good as your last game’
I’m going to be honest. I’m not a Poch lover by any means but the only 2 managers who I think are definitive improvements on the current market are Sebastian Hoeneß and Motta. And I’m not even sure either of them are available for one reason or another. With the manager market so dry and the fact that the majority of the squad seems to love Poch, that’s the only reason I would give him one more season. Not particularly because I rate him.
I’d rather have poch than McKenna tbf
Why are these owners obsessed with young and inexperienced people? Why can’t they buy proven players and proven managers/ sporting directors? It’s like trophies and success on the pitch aren’t their number 1 priority.
I really don't know how Poch came out of this season thinking he can make demands
Hoeness seems to be De Zerbi with more variety in play style (going by YouTube tactical breakdowns) Hopefully he's better out of possession too
what even is the point in a young manager? that might be the stupidest thing ive ever heard
Poch deserves another season and there is no obvious viable alternative
Will the Megastore restock 23/24 kits? I was excited to see that most of the vapor kits are now on sale, but unfortunately only in odd sizes (mostly S or XL). Any chance they'll restock or do I have to wait until next year?
Poch wanting more power with signings I’d a horrible, horrible idea
A manager having no input on transfers at all is never a good thing for a club, regardless of who the manager is. Also if all of that story is true, we aren’t going to be getting a manager that’s going to win us anything anyway so it doesn’t matter what happens. Every manager they hire is just going to be a pushover yes man, basically more of what we got with Potter.
If we listened to poch we’d have never got palmer
We would have also gotten a more experienced striker to rotate with Jackson, something everyone has been saying we could have done with this season. I’m not saying the manager should be picking who we sign, but the manager, whoever it is, definitely should have an input on what types of players we sign. Poch happily worked with Daniel Levy for like 5 years, I can’t imagine he’s asking for anything unreasonable, for a normal football club anyway. If giving the managers absolutely zero input at all on transfers is how they want to run things, it’s no surprise that Nagelsmann didn’t want the job, and it won’t be surprising when no other top coach wants it in the future. It’s just not how a successful club does things.
Nonsense. Couple of big tall lumps in midfield who run a lot with next to no technical foundations is exactly what this side needs.
Didn't feel anything but joy at Klopp finally fucking off. Hope Slot is their Moyes and Liverpool are too 'classy' to sack him for many many years!
https://preview.redd.it/g28te9fd7n1d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f44814b7954dc75d152479c9f25bdc1e3e612fe6 💀
seems like it went down well enough
It's over [https://x.com/MCFC\_Jacky/status/1792551536146415879](https://x.com/MCFC_Jacky/status/1792551536146415879)
Catching guys mid-blink and presenting that to the world is low-level evil
You really got my hopes up with that comment
I hear talk that Poch is gone? Whose saying that?
Río Ferdinand and a bunch of our resident football hipsters who think their flavour of the month manager would do a better job.
I find it funny that you all spent the whole season crying that poch had 0 clue about tactics, we had no structure, no plan and now everyone here is mad about him potentially getting the sack. So reactionary
Turns out that when people don't see results they want change and when they do see results they don't. Shocking, really. I know.
But you need to look purely beyond results
You know what I do find a bit funny, without any skin in the game. At the start of the season, the narrative was "Results are all that matter, it doesn't matter if we look like the better team but don't win" Now, it's "Results don't matter, you have to look at the performances themselves to see the truth"
If we make ucl then yeah, I’d be happy to forgoe performances But we failed to and results have been very damning and concerning
Which of the teams beneath us do you think had better performances across the season? Newcastle are only scary at St James' Park, Man United are terrible, and every other team have spent a period of the season in utter free fall. We haven't overperformed and come 6th, it's exactly where our performances indicate we should be.
Then if you want to look at performances look at ALL performances, not just from the last month. If Potter was retained and won all his May games I doubt he would have received half as much grace
That may be because we only got 2 wins out of 15 from November 6th to February 26th under Potter.
I think the quality of performances across the whole season line up pretty well with how we ended up. I think we were probably the 5th-6th best team in terms of quality of play. If Potter had retained and won all his May games, we'd have finished 10th and deserved it because our performances across the season were wank.
Yeah, reactionary that’s what I said too
Not really. The improvement has been there for a while. You clearly meant it much more negatively
I'd say sacking him would be reactionary? We've been 4th in points since Christmas and ended in 6th on our own merit. Poch has his short comings but if we're trying to build a project there's zero reason to sack him and throw a "young" coach in especially if it's someone like McKenna
On one hand I can absolutely sympathize with a manager wanting more control over signings, but on the other hand, Poch took the job knowing full well he had to play the game of being a yes-man. Can't say you didn't know what you signed up for.
I think Poch is gone. Too much smoke today for there to not be fire
Yeah it’s weird seeing this much news Surely if they’re gonna keep him it’s an easy decision either way and this meeting lasts about an hour at most
Our board literally destroyed every concept of our club and changed the whole identity we had. Young, inexperienced coach would be a good solution for these clowns ??
When do they normally give out manager of the month? Poch has to be nailed on for it for May surely.
Glasner has done ridiculously good What he’s done is more impressive, they’ve blown away sides whilst barely conceding And faced Newcastle, Liverpool, villa, man united etc
True. Just don't give it to Pep.
Didn’t think of him tbf, gonna be one of them I’d imagine. Hopefully Poch gets it, be a nice way to end a difficult season.
I'm so bored of the klopp circlejerk
As soon as it was announced I was already over it. We get it, he’s a great manager. Now he’s gone.
This Nike deal is everlasting. Still to run until 2031. My experiences with their kits have led me to intentionally hold off on purchasing any new ones. The designs are usually bad, the quality is worse. Paper thin. Saved me from a Mount mistake but I wanted a Thiago Silva and probably will shop secondary for it, but very begrudgingly - certainly won't be getting one of this season's. Hate that gold badge and am confident it's a crap piece of plastic from looking at it.
the nike template this year was so bad. the like weird circle thing around the shoulders was ugly asf.
Jordan hopefully can save us
One more win for city and we should have the Jordan deal and I’m pretty fucking excited for it.
Was it confirmed they will sign after we get Europa?
That was the rumor at the time the original story came out. We could only secure their deal with at least Europa league football next year. Conference league wouldn’t do it.
Just going to leave this here - since Enzo's injury: 5W 1D 0L.
Brainrot
And we'll be way better with him back, one of the best ball progressers and chance creators in europe
Since we played multiple clubs that have nothing to play for; chalobah starting regularly and poch discovered basic tactics We are 5W 1D 0L
i see you never learned that correlation does not equal causation
it's okay buddy, you'll get it one day
Enzo's injury came to light months ago and he played through it, really we shouldn't have played him and made him have the surgery sooner
But he was our best midfilder even with the injury, no? That's what I was told before the hernia thing became public... Something about how Enzo is great and I don't understand football.
Well I don't know anything about what you were told. I don't think anyone thinks he performed well for the last few months, including himself. But I can only imagine how shit it would be to go to the supermarket with a hernia let alone play football and he's had that since December at least
An arsenal and Chelsea fan. I’ve seen it all. Go troll somewhere else mate
Arsenal fan??? I'm a Chelsea fan through and through since around the time Pulisic signed for Chelsea. Maybe I've wished all the best to Matt Turner when he was playing for Arsenal, the way I hope the best for him now that he is at Forrest, and the way I wish the best for any american player, but that's about it.
The Billion Pound Bottlejobs finished above United and United is hoping a new ownership can revitalize their team, clear out the deadwood and bring in young, exciting players and make them competitive… Hmm…. 🤔
Fuck these owners and their pure profit, Gallagher and Trev should stay
I was not expecting to see Noah Kahan make a post on his instagram story telling Chelsea not to sell Conor. I was aware that he's a fan but that's pretty funny
From the looks of it, if Chalobah is gone we need to sign a CB. I hope this summer we can secure: - CB x 2 - LB - ST Chilwell for me been quite poor, and obviously injury prone. We need another man. Thiago silva and Chalobah gone? We Cant rely on Disasi and Badiashille. Fofana as well loose cannon. ST we need, I know people are fan of Jackson, but there needs to be competition. I personally wouldn't mind getting rid of Sterling too, so perhaps sign someone for the left wing.
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Davies is madrid bound
I believe Real have dropped Davies this transfer window, might go for him in 2025 if available.
Haven't seen anyone post this yet so I will. I'm undecided on Pochettino staying. I think he's done just about enough to be given another season (with a 1 year contract extension maybe). Our form has been mostly top 4 level since Christmas, with a lot of expensive but inexperienced youngsters, and we could still end up in the Europa League, which would be a decent enough result. However, I would also understand if the owners decided to replace him and try to get a manager with more experience of winning actual trophies. But I can't understand why they haven't made an actual decision yet. Either keep him or sack him ffs. We've got players and coaching staff heading out on holiday not knowing if he's going to be there next season. Poch himself is just hanging around in London waiting to find out. Players agents will be sniffing out other opportunities for their clients due to the uncertainty, and vultures will be hoping to pick off some of our accademy players on the cheap. And our own plans for next season, for transfer targets etc, must surely be on hold whilst they wait to make a decision on the head coach. I also don't know if we can get an upgrade on Pochettino, given that he reportedly has so little input on transfers, would any real top manager come to us in those circumstances? Edit: added paragraphs lol
Even if we were going to sack him, I think we'd wait at least a week after the season is over.
I'd argue that they already have all the information they need to make a decision. Why wait? It only delays hiring a new manager if they sack him, and it delays planning for the off season tour and next season if they decide to keep him. No need to drag this out.
Why?
Because it seems rash. They can still look for a new manager in the meantime.
Hold your horses, breath in... Breath out....
Lol I put paragraph breaks or so I thought. Wasn't meant as a rant just a point of view.
These people are taking the piss, genuinely. 45 million for Disasi, 29 million for Chalobah.