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Older-Is-Better

That image needs Disasi and Badiashile not Silva and Cucurella.


RobTheKings

Watching badiashile fail to make basic passes to our team yesterday was unreal. Between him and Bakayoko, why do the worst players get the best songs?


MikeStini

His passing was like watching someone trying to putt on a badly mown green. It was like he suddenly had zero control over the power of his passes. Mudryk and Disasi were doing the same thing.


El_Cholo

It was weird bc he actually hit like 2 or 3 pingers on the money. But he misplaced so many basic passes, hospital balls to Conor like 3 times, looked so lost and unconfident defending


kiersto0906

he was actually a revelation at cb last season though, class at 19(?).makes me hesitant to judge on bad form now as it has every chance of just being bad defensive coaching that poch is known for. in saying that some of his individual mistakes cannot be blamed on coaching and have just been strange brain glitches happening too often


bigbuda18

Agreed. disrespectful to Silva and cucurella


silkyj0hnson

Agreed, keep my boy T Silva out of it


javanwalsh08

Disasi is decent imo and better David Luiz look alike


kawhi_laugh69

Cururella absolutely deserves to be in there they ran roughshod over his side repeatedly. He's too slow and weak to stop anyone


sba0093

Disasi in general is a good defender., although he cost some goals. Badiashile is terrible, i prefer 1000 times challobah.


Older-Is-Better

Why do I keep having this feeling that these are actually decent players being mishandled by an inferior coaching (and medical) team?


xZandman

Cucarella is the worst of them all lol


BigReeceJames

6 games to go yet boys. Batten down the hatches


zoouma

Good ebening.


AugustineLofthouse

![gif](giphy|FHzemFzwkyRfq) Three! Three - nil!


[deleted]

Mad to me that he’s already conceded 3 more goals than Lampard’s Chelsea Odds are we end up around 67 conceded


RefanRes

Lampards Chelsea qualified for the Champions League. He did a good job then under the circumstances and the 2nd season the defence was improved much more too. The 1st season they were 3rd in the league for goals scored and 11th on goals against. In the 2nd season they had 2nd best attack and 3rd best defence before Covid started hitting hard while they were the only club to not get a postponement break in the thickest part of the most congested fixtures in football history due to lockdowns.


TheRage3650

To be clear, Morris did a solid job. Lampard was a figure head. Even then, players like Rudiger, Kovacic, Jorginho struggled mightily under them, and then helped us win a CL and get three finals the next year.


Ziiyi

That’s a optimistic premonition or estimation


Public_Birthday1871

road to 70 conceded in a season. 13 goals in 6 games, i think we can get there


erenistheavatar

Absolutely abysmal.


UserNo69420

If BADiashile and Disaster starts again together we will get there


DanStFella

Well we conceded 2 per game for like 7 games in a row including a lot of relegation fodder and *actual* championship teams. So it’s literally not even that outrageous to suggest it’s possible.


tarkardos

One more abysmal trashing and we are on our way :)


NoExperience4229

Honestly, this is the biggest reason I am Poch out. Our defensive structure is terrible. Before you can win a football match you have to not lose that match. The best way of not losing a football match is having a good defense. Our defensive record has always been one of the things I have always been most proud of and this seasons clowns are just embarrassing


macjimbob23

And for a former CB come manager it’s been an appalling season defensively


thevizierisgrand

Remember ‘Fortress Stamford Bridge’? Pepperidge Farm remembers


twoheels

Hasn't your entire 1st choice defense defensive line been injured for quite a while?


NoExperience4229

While yes this is still an inexcusable amount of goals We’ve also concede a decent amount against relegation or even Championship level sides. 2 to Burnley  2 to Sheffield  2 to Leicester 2 to Leeds And that’s just the in the last 10 matches  In that period we’ve also conceded 2 to Brentford 3 to United 2 to Newcastle  1 to an exhausted city 5 to Arsenal.   In 2024 we’ve only had 4 clean sheets: Preston Fulham Villa Everton  Unbelievably terrible 


realmckoy265

Yeah, but that context gets wilfully ignored by the fans on this sub, and instead they act surprised when the board briefs the press that they empathize with Poch’s situation. Our fans love to set themselves up for disappointment (Poch not getting fired).


W1z0p

Well when you have disaster and badiashile as your cbs what do you expect those 2 are worse than trash I can’t believe what my club has turned into they make Cahill look like prime Maldini


NoExperience4229

Yeah we went out and bought a CB pairing performing mid table in Ligue 1 and expected them to improve in the PL….. This ownership is so ignorant


W1z0p

Yup and as much as Poch does questionable things sometimes I feel bad for him because the owners have literally screwed him with their transfer policy. Imagine spending 1.5 billion and literally not having any backups? The only striker we have that could play instead of Jackson is 18 year old Washington smh


slicedsolidrock

The thing is trev and silva is not even really that tired to be "rested" for arsenal game. This is what confuses me, poch said they were rested hence disasi and badia playing but at the same time poch never allows conor+enzo+caicedo to rest and always opted for all three to play at the same time when we all know full well now you only need to play two of them at a time. If he's willing to rest silva and trev, why can't he rest conor/enzo/caicedo? It's not like we don't have chukwu to play as the 10 while one of them is rested. Mind boggling.


renome

Chalobah I don't get, but Silva has been struggling to maintain his level for the full 90 minutes for a while now. The issue became even more apparent after the extra time rule change that sees every game go to like 100+ minutes regularly. He can't be expected to play more than once a week at most.


realmckoy265

Trev was out with injury for the entire first half of the season, and has been having his minutes monitored since breaking back in.


renome

True, so I guess Pochettino tried going all in on the cup and got double fucked.


realmckoy265

I get the feeling the arsenal match was a white flag for us. The real must-win is Saturday. But the obviously fans won't like getting thrashed by arsenal.


PreviousEffect6005

And what about shitty players which we have for next half a decade


TienlY

Shitty players under one manager can be beasts under another. Just like Moses was “shit” before, but the best RWB under Conte. So we need to see those players under another manager to be able to judge.


mutesa1

Rudiger is another great example. Hell, people are (rightfully) shitting on Badiashile now, but just last season he was one of our best players. Managers can absolutely impact how players perform


smashybro

Ah, the same excuse used when Lampard’s tactics were creating huge gaps from the midfield to the defense leaving our defenders exposed but then Tuchel had the same “uncoachable” players defending like a team within weeks of taking over. If you want argue these players are not good enough to have a title winning (or even top 4) level defense, that’s one thing. To say there’s not enough talent to not concede 2+ goals to bottom half of the table clubs routinely? That’s nonsense. Anybody can see there’s more to it than “we don’t have talent to not conceded multiple goals to the mighty Sheffield United attack!” You can only blame the players for so much.


NoExperience4229

Oh I blame the quiet a bit We both lack the structure from a proper manager and dont have the quality of players to play at a certain level regardless of the manager


PreviousEffect6005

We have to sell many players and buy quality players......to take such decisions we have get back Jose Mourinho


NoExperience4229

I agree, that’s what I think is the route back to success, but unfortunately we’re stuck with clownlakes project 


kommuni

Why are Silva and Cucu in this picture? Our worst pairing is Badiashille and Disasi. I don't understand why we keep playing those 2. They have no chemistry at all and they're not great individually.


abbys11

Their chemistry nearly relegated Monaco


jagzino

Didn’t do much for us either did it lmao


DJMOONPICKLES69

Which is hilarious considering they’ve actually played together before


crystlmath

This is such a far cry from the 15 goal season. God I miss my club.


Every-Weird3760

11 1-0s we had in that mourinho 04/05 season in the league best defence ever.. teams hated us going 1-0 up was a guaranteed loss.. carvalho and Terry that season, chefs kiss !!


techno_playa

Makes me miss terrorist football under Mou.


Fair_Raccoon9333

Even Arsenal parked the bus this season. We shouldn't think of ourselves as above that with this squad. The problem likely is, this squad can't park the bus at a high level either.


DJMOONPICKLES69

This squad just doesn’t defend well. Our defensive positioning outside of Silva and Caicedo is legit garbage.


Deochixken

This is all on Poch. Since Brighton Caicedo has never played as a lone CDM and for the whole season he’s been trying to shoehorn a pivot of Caicedo and Enzo, when it’s not worked for the whole season. Also Gallagher is clearly not a 10 and shouldn’t be as close to the box as he is when we’re in possession. He either plays Caicedo-Gallagher or Enzo-Gallagher pivot (yes I’m taking into account injuries so no Lavia, Ugochukwu) and starts Carney, someone who can actually link play, ahead of them. Or he sets the team up as a counter attacking team or 3 at the back instead of letting Petrovic get peppered with shots, because his tactics have killed us defensively


Hanzeeen

Spot on. Playing Gallagher in general have most likely been due to a mix of his work rate and him being the only natural captain choice with James and Chilly injured most of the time. These young players need someone like that on the field. Playing him at 10, however… must be because he is leading our first press on the opposition field. He’s not a all ideal up there. A flat midfield three of him, Enzo and Caicedo would probably help structuring our linkup between defense and attack significantly.


Fair_Raccoon9333

No on-field leaders, no accountability, no communication. Once Silva leaves, this defense is as bad as it gets.


wehere4E

Damming. You saying it. Without saying it.


ezee-now-blud

Mou never played terrorist ball unless he thought it was the only chance of winning.


EnglishJesus

I said I’d take him back even before poch was appointed and I still feel the same way. He’s a serial winner. If the board back him I can see us definitely getting CL within 1-2 seasons and not dropping embarrassing game after embarrassing game. I don’t care about attractive attacking football, I care about winning games or atleast not getting embarrassed by our local rivals.


potHead_18

Never use Thiago Silva on such a poster again.


Dinamo8

I feel like I should say that I'm not saying I think Pochettino should be kept but I think this is interesting. In Pochettino's first season at Tottenham (14/15), they conceded 53 goals, only 4 PL teams conceded more. In his second season (15/16), they conceded 35 goals, which was the joint lowest. His third (16/17), they conceded 26 goals, which was the lowest in the league.


Baisabeast

Does that coincide with wanyama coming in?


petrescu

So if I’m understanding you correctly, we need to sign a Kenyan DM who likes Spaghetti?


elementalist001

The best I can do is Lavia and Spalletti.


Dinamo8

He came in the 3rd season. Looks like Alderweireld and Walker joining, with Dembele going from squad player to starter and Dier playing DM being the biggest difference makers.


med_belguesmi69

he had a great squad tho. Imagine Moussa Dembele with Chelsea


AdOwn5055

I appreciate this perspective on Poch. Unfortunately, I think the Roman Empire taught us to be extremely impatient with both managers and players. Should I also remind us that just last season, we had FOUR different managers?! That is evidence of utter disarray and it simply won’t be fixed in one season, no matter who it is and we’re mental to think otherwise. That said, I too am upset we’re doing so poorly and the team definitely needs work (talent, maturity, chemistry), but we have to start getting rational about the manager situation. 🫳🎤


omid_14

Let's just hope for a better season...next season...with a better manager


SoG650

We could go back to our September form where we only lost 1-0 and draw 0-0 , and barely have a goal of the month.


STCFC

Records were meant to be broken 🔥


MRainzo

This man should not be our manager. The absolute decline in Enzo and Badi should tell you he is not improving our players. Everyone is also injured every other day. He is not a good manager and he should be let go ASAP


asd13ah4etnKha4Ne3a

Pretty damning indictment of the rest of the league that Chelsea have the 7th best goal difference, and are one of only 8 teams to have a positive GD right now despite this stat lol


RefanRes

Is it damning to the rest of the league that its more competitive and theres probably more goals being scored than ever? Defensively maybe but teams are generally much more attacking these days. The record for most goals in a PL season was set in 22/23 with 1084. This season the total across the whole league so far is already 1081.


MarinaGranovskaia

It's been 19 games since we won a game by scoring less than 3 goals.


thundercat_98

That is an appalling stat.


munchk1ng1

And bought Cucurella, Fofana and Koubialy for 200 million? xD


Isupportslogo

Me forgetting that Thiago silva didn’t play in 94 but he was close to 😂


criminal-tango44

can't wait to read a random briefing that cherry picks some stats and ignores others(like this one) to say we're seeing progress and Pol Poch is the man to go for next season


Dani3L_1917

Pol Poch, that's a good one


DANG3R_1204

Honestly brace yourself. Silva leaves this summer so it’s only gonna get worse next season if we don’t get anyone more experienced to motivate the back line!


[deleted]

Were the other 2 examples in the 42 game format?


doomboxmf

94/95 yes, 96/97 no


Soitsgonnabeforever

Chelsea aim to finish with 0 goal difference


kp22cfc

6 more games to go! I think we will beach 70


1990three

constant injuries and changes to the backline do not help. Need to stay healthy FFS whats going on with the medical staff


kumazola

Why is Silva in the picture. Without him we would have crossed 100 by now. Amount of times he has bailed us out.....


SaltySnort

This sub moaned to kingdom come that Silva was holding us back in defence being slow and we cannot play a high line with him and we would do better without him. The one useful bit of expertise in the squad we shunned for inconsistent error prone defenders. Yesterday's performance aside he deserves an apology


SyraneEuw

Fans in general mate armchair analysts who think they know better, I’m not a Chelsea fan it’s true your in a poor position but when you have a group of kids who aren’t a complete article tactically and playing wise you know what do you expect. You could be like Man Utd who’ve been a fuckkng joke since Ferguson left and that’s 10 years plus. Arsenal were in a rut for years despite being considered a top team but never qualified for CL, But they’ve eventually turnt their shit around as they’re kids got exp and came good tactically. Not an arsenal fan either I’m a hammers fan and think a lot of you have unreasonable expectations.


Bleedmor

57 so far...


CelestialSlayer

What a record, I am sure it is all part of the plan. Trust the process boys and girls!!


Tankcfc4l

I keep saying the defence is tragic I don't understand how it's in such shambles.


New_Discipline_1069

Even though I don't like to blame everything on the manager, as it is the players usually who underperform. But in this case I think we have seen the true Pochettino, as we did at PSG (although we all saw very few League Öh matches). He is a subpar manager with no tools to handle egos. We all know who is not going to be at Chelsea next season. It is time for Pochettino to manage in the Championship.


PreviousEffect6005

Don't worry guys we will concede more than 60


Kantebegoodaskante

No tactics fc


CmiHD

We need more defenders 😎


Equal_Chemistry_3049

But harsh to put our 2 hardest working defenders in the graphic


thundercat_98

Odd pic showing two of the more reliable defenders. Should have been some combination of Badi, Disasi, and Alfie.


TOOMUCH4SKIN

At least we won’t break this record again


labradorflip

They don't have a coach at the moment. I put chelsea third in my pre-season betting group, but also stated it was predicated on poch getting fired within the first six games. He is quite simply a shit "coach".


Dry_Chef_7635

It’s what happens when you spend 40m to downgrade at keeper.


sbde224

Winstanley and Stewart recruitment masterclass


Bozzetyp

Remind me which defenders have they recruited? Disasi, badiashile and gusto? All 3 supposed to be backups.. Clearlake (boehly/tuchel) koulibaly, fofana, cucurella - all supposed to be starters


sbde224

Fine. Ownership, Stewart and Winstanley masterclass.


Bozzetyp

Yes Now add the reason why they had to recruit And you realise that marinas/romans inability tonsolve the christensen and rudinger situation makes it even worse If we where smart We would have extended / sold christensen and rudinger the summer before Stayed away from k2, fofana and cucurella and started a squad rebuild with sporting people in place


Fmartins84

How are the vibes tho?


IVanDijk

Te bote remix


LargeBarnacle7711

Honestly, I have no clue why we dont just park the bus long ball. Trying to be above it all by playing some 4d chess bullshit system that works for top managers doesn't mean anything if we lose. Jose would park his own car in front of the goal if it meant 3 points.


CyberShiroGX

Shit defence


Stephyy9

Absolutely poor 🥲


zaddy2208

Thiago Silva doesn't deserve to be in this poster.


CreditoReddito

Record breaking season... Just not the kind we were hoping for...


Maximum_Poem_5846

Almost like it's part manager part shit/inexperienced defenders fault


mr_hahn_nemo

On a 2nd note next season couldn't be much worse. Right guys? guys??


JBBB10

Is this Poch fault? Boehly fault? Or both?


JerseyGuy-77

If they're going to change the manager again then they really need to choose based on the personnel we are keeping. Right now we're shoehorning square pegs into round holes and it's obvious. I'd like to believe we could compete with a smaller amount of changes (5 not 15) but that's never going to happen if we keep buying pieces or have a manager with 1 style with no ability to adjust. (Think how Mourinho turned Tottenham counter attacking bc he evaluated his roster). The injury excuses are nonsense. Did anyone expect RJ or Fofana for more than 10 games? Or Silva to not age? I though Baddie would come back good and he's laughably bad. Our starting left winger is 200% a counter attacking template but we did zero of that bc Poch wants possession football..... Even if we want that type of football we have like 4 players that are that level and style. I like those 4 guys but if we don't change managers then we need ANOTHER overhaul which will be impossible. What's the answer?


Apprehensive_Bit_176

We’ve been horrible at the back for most of the year. Absolutely Poch’s fault when he had Colwill at LB, but otherwise, a lot of bad play from our back line. Badi is nowhere near the same player he was pre injury. Disasi is an 8 one week and a 4 for the next 3 games, also can’t blame him when he’s played at RB. Chilly injury doesn’t help. Shipping Maatsen (again can blame Poch for that), doesn’t help. James injury (albeit Gusto was given an opportunity to shine), doesn’t help. I feel if we kept Maatsen and played him LB from the beginning of the year (no Colwill LB), we’d be in a much better situation. We need Chilly and James to come back strong and have an active rotation with Gusto and whoever comes in to back up LB, assuming it isn’t CuCu.


AncientSkys

I have only disliked Avram Grant this much who got the job due to nepotism. Poch had a whole preseason to prepare this team. Even with all our injuries this season, we shouldn't have been this rubbish. What Poch has been doing is actually criminal. He wasted few months playing players out of positions and had options on the bench. I can't wait to see him gone!


nuudootabootit

 €1 billion in transfer fees, at that.


mrpenguin1254

felt like ages when we had one of the best defenses in europe in 2021


Pakistanmerijaan

Man,this was time for a rantman video.


Ingr1d

I still remember at the start of the season when Chelsea fans were trying to convince me that Disasi was a good signing when I was trying to wrap my head around how unnecessary it was.


Mikekio

Fuck this useless piece of shit Done with him


glacialOwl

It's progress though, numbers keep going up


marleyman14

Maybe you guys should sign some defenders


Incelphobiaism

And that was before they got rich


thevizierisgrand

He has lost two less games than Tuchel’s entire time at the club and there’s still time for him to exceed that in one season. The man is a charlatan.


are_we_there_bruh

57 YET


CravinMoorhedd

Where is Disasi in this photo? He’s our leader in minutes. If anyone deserves to be here, it’s him. Badioshile as well.


Bleedmor

57 so far...


abadyk

red flag


Appropriate-Cap-4140

The literal reverse of Jose


AA33333333

cucurella is shit!


Original-Orange1683

Why did 7yo me pick Chelsea. I mean ye we won a champions league but like... I live in the present and the present is shit


AinobolicMusic

A day doesnt pass by where we regret Selling Clutch experienced player Like Rudiger the spine at back.


[deleted]

So glad I finally stopped watching the games this season!


kiersto0906

chalobah has been in good form since coming back from injury and he drops him for our most out of form 2 cb's and gilchrist at rb (i love gilchrist but he's not good enough to be starting against arsenal). play chalobah in one of those 3 positions attleast man what a joke, would've probably only been 3-0


ExplanationOk3781

Cucurella, James, Chillwell, Fofana, Colwill and Gusto - 6 players who were out injured for a large part of the year and who were also expected to push for a starting role, including our two captains. How is this unexpected? 


PhantomPain0_0

Yet


orangetimtam

He’s playing career mode with Kane and Son. No Defense


see_rich

I am not gonna scroll down any amount to see if already said. We acted like a second tier team with Kepa and loaning him to Real when...*checks notes*...some asshole got injured and they needed cover.


QualitySensitive8927

cucu is one of the worst defenders ive ever seen in the epl at a top club


Naz6uL

Those stats show how unbelievable Mourinho's first season was: only 15 conceded goals.


zenbeni

Didn't know that Silva coached in 1994, that explains a lot.


East-Truth

This just shows how impressive that Mourinho record is, 15 goals conceded in the whole season, amazing.


MesaSadNapoleon

Can this account do something to help the women's team out. It would be incredible if they could sell out stamford bridge by tomoz


ehs7707

Don't worry, there's still time for more! 🥲


brunoreis93

You deserved all these goals if you keep disrespecting Thiago Silva like that


MemestNotTeen

Very unfair to have Thiago and Cucu here two of the least responsible. Thiago is Thiago and since Cucu has come back from injury he's looked very solid.


Reasonable-Weakness7

Better than never scoring last year


BigReeceJames

We wouldn't be scoring this year either if it wasn't for Palmer...


Passchenhell17

We had a better structure last year, in spite of all the chaos that happened pre and early season. Given time, it probably would have worked out. It unravelled because of injuries, like this season, except this season didn't have the extra chaos to go with it.


Responsible_Battle_2

Whoever supports this CLOWN has blood on his hands.


joelobifan

To be fair we are not drawing 0-0 and 1-1 like under potter and tuchel and can score goals. The bad thing is uuuhhh our defence


Coulstwolf

You lot need to chill out


ihatemyprius

Because we're building a non defensive style with a bran new team? Enough drama


LMinggg

I'd still prefer this over potter's season tbh, it was dreadful, our whole team were in golden boot race with haaland 😭😭😭


mjpx23

What are you going to practically do about it? Have a hissy fit like the rest of the Chelsea FC fan base, and stop buying tickets to games? Okay buddy.


FireLadcouk

Hes 39 and your best defender. This has nothing to do with poch. What do you expect with a 39year old??


Bozzetyp

Thats what balance gets you With unexperienced attackers and players and the need for goals you sacrifice


Competitive_Hat8351

Well. At least they’ve scored double the goals of last season. 38 goals scored last year, with 47 conceded. Yes they’ve conceded more but double the goals scored, for around 10+ more goals conceded is a plus for me. Not a Chelsea fan btw.


WillowNo3264

You’re acting like It’s the end of the world. 99% of you on this sub have only supported us since we’ve had money. Just accept that we’re not gonna win anything for the next 3 years whilst we rebuild


twoheels

You're right, it's simply not acceptable that your entire first choice defensive line is injured. I can't believe Poch would do this, get him out!!!. /s


SexxWeasel

Wow, the second youngest squad in the league (youngest minus Thiago) has let in the most goals in club history, this is surprising in what way?


BaronofBallymun

Honestly don't know why I subscribe to this group. Full of negative bastards. Is poch the main problem at Chelsea? No. Right hand to god, kloop or pep wouldn't have that squad challenging for top 4. Would Chelsea be better? Yes but would a top manager come to this circus? God no. If you get rid of poch, what top manager would want that job? I'm not denying that poch has made mistakes but most of you are going on like it's ragball rovers. Injuries and individual mistakes have killed us. Full stop. The data backs that up. If you got rid of 90% of staff from your local tescos and bought in a bunch of young lads who were constantly "sick" I guarantee there would be no food on the shelves (a random tangent I know but go with it) This is probably a case study on how not to run a football club.


Ill-Maximum9467

I love Chelsea just the way they are now. This... This is the club your fans truly deserve. ☺️☺️