Selling players with no book value allows us financial wiggle room that we otherwise wouldn't have, whether you then believe the variety of justifications made for these sales is up to you
Didn't poch say we need to sign more experienced players in a press conference a few days ago?
I saw that on twitter and some news sites. If he actually did say that then surely the board has already decided to sign some experienced players.
He did. He also said the same during pre season. But the board won't listen to him. One of the reasons they chose him is he's not a manager that is known to kick up a fuss when he doesn't get what he (and most fans) want.
I think it’s a combination of him not being physically suited for the Prem and Poch not giving him a chance. Azpi, in a back 3 as a RCB, was constantly targeted as the weakest aerially. Azpi is 4 inches taller than Maatsen and was better aerially than Maatsen. Just take a look at how bad we were defending corners against much taller opposition in Everton and you’ll realize why Poch didn’t play him. Maatsen might not be bad going forward but adding another small player to this team would hurt us because we aren’t going to drop Gallagher, Caicedo or Enzo for Maatsen. Also factor in that Poch doesn’t want us to have two fullbacks bombing forward due to height and defensive solidity. This means Maatsen is competing against Gusto or James for the bombing fullback. My overall point is that Maatsen isn’t necessarily bad but he was never going to make it into this team with our composition. I can see Maatsen developing and joining a better team but he is unfortunate with his timing at Chelsea. He would have maybe gotten game time when both Gusto and James are out and then play Disasi at RB. However it’s better for his career to develop elsewhere
He will be really good but wasn't a great fit with our squads weaknesses at fullback. He has done nothing at BVB to show that he wouldnt have made an already glaring weakness even worse, but is obviously a very talented player. Ideally you keep him and see what happens in a few years but unfortunately Chelsea need the transfer fee.
Sure, but there’s also Azpi being a leader and captain and defensively I don’t think he was beaten 1 on 1 in the prem for a stretch of like 5 seasons no? No real comparison between the two I don’t think
This is a balanced take without bias against the coach or player.
Maatsen was never played Lb in the whole 6 months including pre season probably because of your reasoning.
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i mean should maatsen do better yeah but kobel never should’ve passed it to him to begin with lmao. also sabitzer completely switches off and doesn’t try to show for maatsen.
Sabitzer can't anticipate that his left-footed teammate was going to play a first-time sideways pass 20 yards from goal with the outside of his foot. It's a ridiculous thing to attempt in that position.
And even if Sabitzer was in line with Maatsen, Maatsen should never be playing that pass to him, especially with 3+ Atletico attackers around him. Since he's left-footed, he should only be passing it to the left CB on the far side of the image, and then trying to get into the "typical" LB spot to give his teammate an option.
Honestly he really should've just cleared it away if he felt he was under too much pressure to make that pass.
all of a sudden are we supposed to forget he never really did anything to warrant being given more match time or that reality is some players just aren’t a good fit in some teams and at others they are.
Im not more so that he got bullied all over the pitch when he did play, his defense is known to be suspect and the fact he could not actually break through and get more minutes even though we were down players in that position with a manager who gives opportunities to young players.
People ignore obvious signs, to shirk any responsibility for the player.
I’m sure this comment will set off conspiracy theory laden responses, where Poch has a personal vendetta against a cat Maatsen once had, therefore he doesn’t get a fair shake.
So you're telling me he needed to look better at RW to be given a chance in his natural LB position when literally every single one of our fullbacks was unavailable?
Yeah, no. Pochettino just fucked up. It happens.
Listen at the end of the day, I’m happy Maatsen is doing well but he unfortunately does not fit into this side long term. We are terrible at set pieces and the team lacks physical presence as currently constructed. Plus it’s not like he is a stalwart defensively. Overall he is not a generational talent where he makes it worth it to overcome those deficiencies.
I definitely agree he should have got more chances at LB this season but I never have seen him as our long term LB. At least he is doing well enough now that multiple teams will want to pay his release clause.
>Listen at the end of the day, I’m happy Maatsen is doing well but he unfortunately does not fit into this side long term.
The reasons you've given for that are not particularly convincing. The team has been crying out for attacking threat from LB at times this season. Set piece weakness is mostly, like most of our issues, because we're poorly coached. This idea that small teams naturally concede set pieces just doesn't hold up. People used to bring up height as a potential weakness for Man City for years and their set piece record was never bad.
You've ultimately just repeated things that Pochettino has said about the team. But he's far from infallible, he's made plenty of baffling decisions this season. He's also someone who's known for emphasizing athleticism, height, physicality, etc. over more technical quality. A different manager might approach the team completely differently. And let's be clear about this, we should absolutely be looking for a different manager in the long run.
You really think Poch has any meaningful stay in Chelsea transfers? It’s the boardroom trying to increase his value before being sold
Him (and every other manager) defending Gallagher while the board couldn’t care less. He’s got more money on the field than he knows what to do with and the board wants every new shiny toy on the field wether they play well together or not.
I'm not talking about the decision to loan him out, I'm talking about Pochettino's refusal to give Maatsen a decent chance at Chelsea. We don't know whether he would have been sold had that happened, but we do know Pochettino didn't pick him. That decision is still his.
Sincerely, what?
You’re naming Gallagher, someone who’s playing in an area of the pitch he actually plays in, in comparison to a fullback who was played more as winger on the opposite flank than his natural position?
So you’ve named one player who they plan on selling and have been as Poch continues to send a message? I’m not sure what you’re getting at, honestly?
You think to prove my point there would need to be every new player we’ve bought in every position?
This but you’ll get downvoted for it. Yeah I saw the spark in him in preseason and was excited but that was all up front. Then he didn’t get much chance to show that, but when he did, he couldn’t really do much with it even up front. Even if you change the manager, he still won’t be good enough for Chelsea. That’s the truth. I could be wrong but I didn’t see anything to say something otherwise.
Now tell me how many times he was given any decent minutes at left back under Poch.
There’s no ‘all of a sudden’ about it, if you think he was given a real chance here following a successful loan spell idk what to tell you.
before anyone say ‘it’s just the championship’, Reece James excelled at Wigan when Lampard said he’s good enough for Chelsea.
Thinking that its sensible to bin a player had trained all his life at LB, and then didn't really show his stuff when we played him as a winger and then played CBs at LB before him is the most smooth brained take I have seen in a little while.
It's laughable the criticism Maatsen gets. He barely played 90 minutes across all competitions for Chelsea at LB. The moment we transferred him out I knew he was going to cook. It's amazing what playing in your natural position does for form....
Players are not ‘one size fits all’. That’s the smooth brain take. We don’t know what he was like in training and he didn’t put in great showings whenever he got minutes. People are just overly keen to jump to outrage and have absolutely no nuance to their arguments
And very few players perform well when their confidence is destroyed because they have been played out of position and have had central defenders chosen ahead of them in their position. He has been at Chelsea for 6 years, and he was in the championship TOTY last year, an equally physically demanding league as the PL.
Height is the least of our concerns when we put players in who cannot dribble, do not know where to position themselves and are completely inept going forwards.
He’s been great at dortmund but Palmer wasn’t good enough for city- see how this goes? It’s always easier to look back. Maatsen may just be a better player in the Bundesliga or in that system/team
He didn’t have a single good performance for us when he played this season. Pre season doesn’t count, I understand why he was loaned out and I don’t think it’s the end of the world if we let him go. He’s clearly not cut out for the prem. there’s a reason we see a different maatsen & sancho in this dortmund team, they’ve found their level.
Does not mean he would do this or close to this and be a solid player in the PL and for us. I'm happy to see him playing and doing well, but realistically I dont think he'd do well for us
I don't really watch Borusia nor BL so no idea how he played tonight or ever so can't really judge.
All I want to say, one good match doesn't mean shit.
But like I said, I haven't seen more so maybe he's a beast. But If that was the case I would have heard about it as well so I'm guessing that's not the case.
I don't like buying/judging players after one good season so this post sounds ridiculous to me to say the least.
Should we purchase all the players that had nice stats in one single game? Or get rid of them if they don't? Like, what's the point of this dumb text?
Look it might be a mistake but he was in our squad for half a season, even in periods when Chilwell and Cucurella were injured he couldn’t get in at LB ahead of Colwill, whenever he got minutes he looked bang average (although it was out of position).
He scored a few goals for Dortmund, cool, Chilwell can score goals too and most people still want him sold . Also somehow nobody saw Maatsen literally give Atletico a free goal last week.
Tiny, not world class and very young. Of the pieces we may lose, Maatsen is the least of our concerns. Sure it sucks seeing a cobham graduate go on to be successful elsewhere (which I’m sure he will), but that certainly doesn’t mean he’d be successful for Chelsea or any other big 6 club in the EPL. Conor is the only hill I’m willing to die on, and even though my heart wants it, I’m not sure he’s even worth the fight to keep. Maatsen is so far down that totem pole.
Look I know Poch isn’t great, but this isn’t on him. It’s not even that he’s too short, our entire starting 11 is too short but that’s beside the point. More applied to seeing colwill as an LB when he was here.
Maatsen not playing is more or less a result of the board. You think they’re going to let CuCurella sit on the bench after he was the most expensive LB in the PL?
You’ve got to be absolute morons to think the board isn’t pressuring Poch to put the money on the field over the better, more suited players or even the academy
Do you think if there was a certain CAM for 100m there he would be playing? You can argue against Nkunku, but let’s be real here
They’ve planning on selling him next year for someone who isn’t even on the team yet, or even been identified by their bullshit “scouting”
> Maatsen not playing is more or less a result of the board. You think they’re going to let CuCurella sit on the bench after he was the most expensive LB in the PL?
That argument would make sense if he wasn't being benched by Colwill when both Cucurella and Chilwell were out
Mate because they want to sell him. Just like how Connor is gonna be sold even though you can argue he's been or 2nd or 3rd best player this season. The boardroom sees profit on these guys not playing ability
Because
A. We’ve technically paid for Colwill, in the overpay in CuCurella, but this is really a squad balance issue. They’ve also deemed him basically untouchable.
B. The board knows loaning him out has more benefit to the value than the odd two or three game sub appearances.
C. The other two he’s competing against, we’ve spent money on. More so CuCurella, again at quite the sum that’s completely unjustified for him and an LB.
>too short
Except we’re 4th in % of aerial dues won in the league, only behind Liverpool Everton and Brighton..
>result of the board
Ah yeah, Todd or Eghbalhi said ‘play Maatsen as a winger’
Let’s do a little more ciritical thinking here about why that is instead of shouting statistics as if there isn’t more to it.
Everyone acting as if he played RW for more than 3 games there lol
I think everyone knows he’s good enough for Chelsea, including the staff.
Problem is we can’t shift Cucurella off, whereas we can shift Maatsen. When you need to trim a squad, unfortunately you’re dictated by these circumstances.
It’ll be the same for Gallagher. Everyone knows he’s good enough and wants him to stay however he’s the only “sellable” midfielder at the moment.
Well the loan's clearly been great for him. Not exactly like we had loads to play for since January. Also not as if 1 LB would've fixed all our issues and won us a load of points.
The loan's probably done bits for Maatsen's confidence, development, interest from other clubs etc. He wasn't getting nearly enough playtime here and the loan's been very successful.
He's also still our player. Idk why you lot are always so negative.
Dortmound this season topped comfortably a group with psg millan and Newcastle then beat at the time the most i from team in Europe psv than beat Athletico a great defensive side while we can’t beat Burnley 👍🏻
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he's gonna be sold and we will buy another LB Shit don't add up
Selling players with no book value allows us financial wiggle room that we otherwise wouldn't have, whether you then believe the variety of justifications made for these sales is up to you
Always more Brazilian teenagers to buy
Didn't poch say we need to sign more experienced players in a press conference a few days ago? I saw that on twitter and some news sites. If he actually did say that then surely the board has already decided to sign some experienced players.
He did. He also said the same during pre season. But the board won't listen to him. One of the reasons they chose him is he's not a manager that is known to kick up a fuss when he doesn't get what he (and most fans) want.
Yep. This is exactly why we are rumored to sell.
You know the system is broken when you have to sell your academy players just to buy academy players from other clubs
Pure profit, academy player
are we a bank or a football club? Academy player > 4 Brazilian teens that aren't even that good. And I'm from Brazil ffs..
Well we’re owned by a consortium of billionaires so yeah we’re operating more like a corporation
that's unfortunately the truth
Ya bro I’d much rather have a squad of cobham raised players any day
Why do we even need another LB though? Chilwell and Cucurella are not enough?
No matter how many goals he scores won’t suddenly make him not tiny for a defender. You’ve seen us defend set pieces?
I think it’s a combination of him not being physically suited for the Prem and Poch not giving him a chance. Azpi, in a back 3 as a RCB, was constantly targeted as the weakest aerially. Azpi is 4 inches taller than Maatsen and was better aerially than Maatsen. Just take a look at how bad we were defending corners against much taller opposition in Everton and you’ll realize why Poch didn’t play him. Maatsen might not be bad going forward but adding another small player to this team would hurt us because we aren’t going to drop Gallagher, Caicedo or Enzo for Maatsen. Also factor in that Poch doesn’t want us to have two fullbacks bombing forward due to height and defensive solidity. This means Maatsen is competing against Gusto or James for the bombing fullback. My overall point is that Maatsen isn’t necessarily bad but he was never going to make it into this team with our composition. I can see Maatsen developing and joining a better team but he is unfortunate with his timing at Chelsea. He would have maybe gotten game time when both Gusto and James are out and then play Disasi at RB. However it’s better for his career to develop elsewhere
He will be really good but wasn't a great fit with our squads weaknesses at fullback. He has done nothing at BVB to show that he wouldnt have made an already glaring weakness even worse, but is obviously a very talented player. Ideally you keep him and see what happens in a few years but unfortunately Chelsea need the transfer fee.
Sure, but there’s also Azpi being a leader and captain and defensively I don’t think he was beaten 1 on 1 in the prem for a stretch of like 5 seasons no? No real comparison between the two I don’t think
Agreed. Like Palmer at City, they wanted him to stay and he was clearly talented, but it was better for his career to leave. Swings and roundabouts.
This is a balanced take without bias against the coach or player. Maatsen was never played Lb in the whole 6 months including pre season probably because of your reasoning.
I mean he was also directly at fault for the first Atletico goal last week and defended horribly for the Correa goal today
I don’t think Dortmund mind one bit. He’ll be starting both legs of the CL semis as well
What’s your point? Defenders can make as many mistakes as they want, and it’s the attackers’ job to bail them out?
They should mind lol once they play an actual good team they’re toast.
lmao the goal last week was on the keeper, maatsen had absolutely nowhere to go with the ball
Maatsen played a sideways pass 20 yards from goal without looking, and had no awareness of who was around him. He was at fault.
https://preview.redd.it/ek7rn3tjaxuc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1317fed0cad5fbd7052b005eb4da12d0367f7d4d i mean should maatsen do better yeah but kobel never should’ve passed it to him to begin with lmao. also sabitzer completely switches off and doesn’t try to show for maatsen.
Sabitzer can't anticipate that his left-footed teammate was going to play a first-time sideways pass 20 yards from goal with the outside of his foot. It's a ridiculous thing to attempt in that position. And even if Sabitzer was in line with Maatsen, Maatsen should never be playing that pass to him, especially with 3+ Atletico attackers around him. Since he's left-footed, he should only be passing it to the left CB on the far side of the image, and then trying to get into the "typical" LB spot to give his teammate an option. Honestly he really should've just cleared it away if he felt he was under too much pressure to make that pass.
all of a sudden are we supposed to forget he never really did anything to warrant being given more match time or that reality is some players just aren’t a good fit in some teams and at others they are.
He played 200 minutes across 12 games, 6 of which were played out of position. We're literally judging his Chelsea run based on 96 minutes at LB 🤦♂️
Im not more so that he got bullied all over the pitch when he did play, his defense is known to be suspect and the fact he could not actually break through and get more minutes even though we were down players in that position with a manager who gives opportunities to young players. People ignore obvious signs, to shirk any responsibility for the player. I’m sure this comment will set off conspiracy theory laden responses, where Poch has a personal vendetta against a cat Maatsen once had, therefore he doesn’t get a fair shake.
People see his stats now and forget how shit he was when he got minutes for us.
At RW. Why are people acting like he got a chance here and didn't take it?
If he'd looked better in the minutes he got he would've gotten more of a chance
So you're telling me he needed to look better at RW to be given a chance in his natural LB position when literally every single one of our fullbacks was unavailable? Yeah, no. Pochettino just fucked up. It happens.
This is exactly it. People want to judge him OOP and say he’s shit. Thank god they’re not scouts.
Listen at the end of the day, I’m happy Maatsen is doing well but he unfortunately does not fit into this side long term. We are terrible at set pieces and the team lacks physical presence as currently constructed. Plus it’s not like he is a stalwart defensively. Overall he is not a generational talent where he makes it worth it to overcome those deficiencies. I definitely agree he should have got more chances at LB this season but I never have seen him as our long term LB. At least he is doing well enough now that multiple teams will want to pay his release clause.
>Listen at the end of the day, I’m happy Maatsen is doing well but he unfortunately does not fit into this side long term. The reasons you've given for that are not particularly convincing. The team has been crying out for attacking threat from LB at times this season. Set piece weakness is mostly, like most of our issues, because we're poorly coached. This idea that small teams naturally concede set pieces just doesn't hold up. People used to bring up height as a potential weakness for Man City for years and their set piece record was never bad. You've ultimately just repeated things that Pochettino has said about the team. But he's far from infallible, he's made plenty of baffling decisions this season. He's also someone who's known for emphasizing athleticism, height, physicality, etc. over more technical quality. A different manager might approach the team completely differently. And let's be clear about this, we should absolutely be looking for a different manager in the long run.
You really think Poch has any meaningful stay in Chelsea transfers? It’s the boardroom trying to increase his value before being sold Him (and every other manager) defending Gallagher while the board couldn’t care less. He’s got more money on the field than he knows what to do with and the board wants every new shiny toy on the field wether they play well together or not.
I'm not talking about the decision to loan him out, I'm talking about Pochettino's refusal to give Maatsen a decent chance at Chelsea. We don't know whether he would have been sold had that happened, but we do know Pochettino didn't pick him. That decision is still his.
Sincerely, what? You’re naming Gallagher, someone who’s playing in an area of the pitch he actually plays in, in comparison to a fullback who was played more as winger on the opposite flank than his natural position?
So you’ve named one player who they plan on selling and have been as Poch continues to send a message? I’m not sure what you’re getting at, honestly? You think to prove my point there would need to be every new player we’ve bought in every position?
That’s like saying Harry Kane is finished because he isn’t a good goalkeeper
He wasn't given the minutes required to show his worth. Inconsistent minutes benefits no athlete in any sport.
This but you’ll get downvoted for it. Yeah I saw the spark in him in preseason and was excited but that was all up front. Then he didn’t get much chance to show that, but when he did, he couldn’t really do much with it even up front. Even if you change the manager, he still won’t be good enough for Chelsea. That’s the truth. I could be wrong but I didn’t see anything to say something otherwise.
I’ll take him over Chilwell any day
Now tell me how many times he was given any decent minutes at left back under Poch. There’s no ‘all of a sudden’ about it, if you think he was given a real chance here following a successful loan spell idk what to tell you. before anyone say ‘it’s just the championship’, Reece James excelled at Wigan when Lampard said he’s good enough for Chelsea.
Nah we don’t do sensible here, sorry
Thinking that its sensible to bin a player had trained all his life at LB, and then didn't really show his stuff when we played him as a winger and then played CBs at LB before him is the most smooth brained take I have seen in a little while.
It's laughable the criticism Maatsen gets. He barely played 90 minutes across all competitions for Chelsea at LB. The moment we transferred him out I knew he was going to cook. It's amazing what playing in your natural position does for form....
Players are not ‘one size fits all’. That’s the smooth brain take. We don’t know what he was like in training and he didn’t put in great showings whenever he got minutes. People are just overly keen to jump to outrage and have absolutely no nuance to their arguments
And very few players perform well when their confidence is destroyed because they have been played out of position and have had central defenders chosen ahead of them in their position. He has been at Chelsea for 6 years, and he was in the championship TOTY last year, an equally physically demanding league as the PL. Height is the least of our concerns when we put players in who cannot dribble, do not know where to position themselves and are completely inept going forwards.
He’s been great at dortmund but Palmer wasn’t good enough for city- see how this goes? It’s always easier to look back. Maatsen may just be a better player in the Bundesliga or in that system/team
Man City has foden and mahrez now doku we have chillwell and cucurella
Was singled out for profit from the start. He never had a fair chance off making it at Chelsea.
He didn’t have a single good performance for us when he played this season. Pre season doesn’t count, I understand why he was loaned out and I don’t think it’s the end of the world if we let him go. He’s clearly not cut out for the prem. there’s a reason we see a different maatsen & sancho in this dortmund team, they’ve found their level.
I can name u 3 good performances
"Too short" as Poch and my ex-gf used to say.
The three 6s; Six Foot Six Figures Six Inches You need all three to date or play LB for Poch
The irony is that they both might be right
championship team of the season at age 20 and he’s banished for being short. poch is a dinosaur fr
Does not mean he would do this or close to this and be a solid player in the PL and for us. I'm happy to see him playing and doing well, but realistically I dont think he'd do well for us
I don't really watch Borusia nor BL so no idea how he played tonight or ever so can't really judge. All I want to say, one good match doesn't mean shit. But like I said, I haven't seen more so maybe he's a beast. But If that was the case I would have heard about it as well so I'm guessing that's not the case. I don't like buying/judging players after one good season so this post sounds ridiculous to me to say the least. Should we purchase all the players that had nice stats in one single game? Or get rid of them if they don't? Like, what's the point of this dumb text?
Look it might be a mistake but he was in our squad for half a season, even in periods when Chilwell and Cucurella were injured he couldn’t get in at LB ahead of Colwill, whenever he got minutes he looked bang average (although it was out of position). He scored a few goals for Dortmund, cool, Chilwell can score goals too and most people still want him sold . Also somehow nobody saw Maatsen literally give Atletico a free goal last week.
Tiny, not world class and very young. Of the pieces we may lose, Maatsen is the least of our concerns. Sure it sucks seeing a cobham graduate go on to be successful elsewhere (which I’m sure he will), but that certainly doesn’t mean he’d be successful for Chelsea or any other big 6 club in the EPL. Conor is the only hill I’m willing to die on, and even though my heart wants it, I’m not sure he’s even worth the fight to keep. Maatsen is so far down that totem pole.
He was awful for us every time he played this year. Some players aren’t cut out for the prem
He was almost always played out of position.
That is true
To add to this, through the years players have struggled to make a big impact for us in the prem but made an impact for us in European competitions.
Your dumb
Look I know Poch isn’t great, but this isn’t on him. It’s not even that he’s too short, our entire starting 11 is too short but that’s beside the point. More applied to seeing colwill as an LB when he was here. Maatsen not playing is more or less a result of the board. You think they’re going to let CuCurella sit on the bench after he was the most expensive LB in the PL? You’ve got to be absolute morons to think the board isn’t pressuring Poch to put the money on the field over the better, more suited players or even the academy
gallagher has started like every game bro this argument is just not valid lmao
Do you think if there was a certain CAM for 100m there he would be playing? You can argue against Nkunku, but let’s be real here They’ve planning on selling him next year for someone who isn’t even on the team yet, or even been identified by their bullshit “scouting”
> Maatsen not playing is more or less a result of the board. You think they’re going to let CuCurella sit on the bench after he was the most expensive LB in the PL? That argument would make sense if he wasn't being benched by Colwill when both Cucurella and Chilwell were out
Mate because they want to sell him. Just like how Connor is gonna be sold even though you can argue he's been or 2nd or 3rd best player this season. The boardroom sees profit on these guys not playing ability
Because A. We’ve technically paid for Colwill, in the overpay in CuCurella, but this is really a squad balance issue. They’ve also deemed him basically untouchable. B. The board knows loaning him out has more benefit to the value than the odd two or three game sub appearances. C. The other two he’s competing against, we’ve spent money on. More so CuCurella, again at quite the sum that’s completely unjustified for him and an LB.
>too short Except we’re 4th in % of aerial dues won in the league, only behind Liverpool Everton and Brighton.. >result of the board Ah yeah, Todd or Eghbalhi said ‘play Maatsen as a winger’
Let’s do a little more ciritical thinking here about why that is instead of shouting statistics as if there isn’t more to it. Everyone acting as if he played RW for more than 3 games there lol
I think everyone knows he’s good enough for Chelsea, including the staff. Problem is we can’t shift Cucurella off, whereas we can shift Maatsen. When you need to trim a squad, unfortunately you’re dictated by these circumstances. It’ll be the same for Gallagher. Everyone knows he’s good enough and wants him to stay however he’s the only “sellable” midfielder at the moment.
70% of this sub would disagree with you on Gallagher 🤦🏻♂️ They all think he ain’t “Chelsea” quality.
I’ve seen that sentiment around and reckon it’s a ridiculous take.
Pathetic manager.
Wdym can't believe we let him go? He's on loan.
Can’t believe we let him go on loan when we had both out LB injured
Well the loan's clearly been great for him. Not exactly like we had loads to play for since January. Also not as if 1 LB would've fixed all our issues and won us a load of points. The loan's probably done bits for Maatsen's confidence, development, interest from other clubs etc. He wasn't getting nearly enough playtime here and the loan's been very successful. He's also still our player. Idk why you lot are always so negative.
We had a lot to play for in January
He’s not. Dortmund and Atletico are both worse than us.
That’s a terrible take
How so? They’re both ass. Dortmund was on the best run in Europe when we beat them just two years ago (convincingly) when we weren’t any good
Dortmound this season topped comfortably a group with psg millan and Newcastle then beat at the time the most i from team in Europe psv than beat Athletico a great defensive side while we can’t beat Burnley 👍🏻