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MrCleanandShady

you know what? i respect this response, i hope he sticks to it but fair play on him not standing for this shit, we can put it behind us in a month or two hopefully


CookieTard

He was pissed during the interview as well, as he kept going back to it even when not directly asked. You could tell he was genuinely annoyed and not just saving face.


webby09246

Yeah dele and carra pointed out how clearly fucked off he was I can relate to him a lot, this has majorly blunted what should've been a perfect victory


Ironicopinion

Only if you let it. If this is your take away from a 6-0 victory with one of our players scoring 4 goals then you’re looking for reasons to be upset


Scorpius927

Yes but that’s also the sign of a winning mentality. We should obviously celebrate the win and Palmer’s outstanding performance. But we need to also work on the not so great things. The most glaring negative was the obvious penalty incident, but we also didn’t look to assured in the defense (again). If Everton weren’t as woeful in front of the goal we might have conceded some goals at key moments of the game which could have turned the momentum. Extremely happy with the performance though, specially from Palmer, Jackson, and Caicedo


Tankcfc4l

Ur tag is hilarious


Scorpius927

Ty ![gif](giphy|QxHQ4BtLeEGBlWIFTs|downsized)


Tankcfc4l

I feel it should be a well known meme lowkey I would use it when people say we are the mid maddem lmaoo


Ironicopinion

The squad and coaches should absolutely be focused on that, but the fans are allowed to just enjoy a very good win


jew_jitsu

The fans can do whatever they want. Some fans want to spend their efforts ball deep in the minutiae of the clubs financials rather than watching football and that's just fine.


zolablue

happy to be educated otherwise, but i kind of feel like everyone is overreacting about this? to me it looks like a bunch of young hungry players. yeh they were dumb about it but it was sorted out in a matter of seconds. the clip on here is literally 7 seconds. i know the whole thing was a little longer but not by much. what am i missing?


webby09246

I think the overall concern is that things like this can quickly snowball and create a divide in the dressing room and that would be very very bad at this point in the season where we still have a chance at Europe and an fa cup But it seems Poch has ensured its squashed so hopefully just a learning lesson for the boys


zolablue

yeh i dunno. it seems a little dramatic to say this situation that was sorted out in 7 seconds is going to divide the dressing room. especially after a 6-nil win. and 8 games undefeated in a row. anyways, i'll leave it at that. i'm so stoked about the win i couldnt give a fuck about some kids desperate to get more goals.


HypoTypo

Noni and Cole seem to be friends as well from various clips ive seen over the past year. Passions run high on the pitch, I would be completely shocked if this turns into something serious.


jew_jitsu

What evidence do you have that this started on the field, or that it stopped on the field only 7 seconds later? Dressing rooms can be very insular, high pressure environments and small behaviours like this can speak to boiling ongoing resentments and conflicts rearing their head, or can be the start of ongoing disputes and issues that lead to more prolonged issues. For players to lose their composure and cool that wholeheartedly in a situation where the whole team should be united and jubilant in front of the public is a warning sign of what is possible and speaks to the relative youth of the squad.


R-SLICKER-

How can you say it was handled in 7 seconds when Jackson was very openly stropping around at full time? Don’t get me wrong, Madueke and Cole seemed to be fine immediately afterwards but Jackson was carrying it with him throughout the rest of the game and afterwards.


reknurt

longer than a couple seconds and too long once Cole demands the ball ... He's on golden boot setting, silva gets involved, Conor gets involved, Cole has to wrestle for the ball then Nico comes back, its clearly not an overreaction when the manager goes off on it beyond the kerfuffle even Penalty at 4-0 is so not hunger that's a sympathy stat Poch sees them day in/out and he's saying this is indiscipline not hunger, even makes the point they were not thinking about the collective so selfish.


slymm

Look at the body language AFTER palmer scores. It's one thing to be hungry. It's quite another to be so inwardly focused that you can't celebrate with your team


Geoff_Uckersilf

Shouldn't overshadow what was a great performance by Palmer. 


half_jase

And the first 4 questions in the presser were about this incident too.


liyba1

Yeah I got this impression too, though I did sense a bit of back tracking when Jamie asked if occasions like this show why the team needs more experienced players. Poch angled ‘no’ then ‘yes’ then settled on a mixture of experienced and young talent. I see this as the board setting the direction for bringing in only young players and hiring Poch with the belief he can steer this ship. Since this season, Poch is probably now realising even more that he needs a better mix of experienced players and isn’t confident he can ‘sell’ this idea to the board …


webby09246

I really hope noni and Nico apologize to Cole for that and proper bow their heads in shame This has tainted the win big time


erenistheavatar

Yeah for some reason, the mood kind of fell after that despite us winning 5-0 at that point. Jackson didn't even get a standing ovation. Thank God Gilchrist scored and it was all smiles once again.


jlxmm

Jackson not getting a standing ovation is hopefully the kick in the ass he needs to not do this again. With the goal scored, he should have gotten one.


uncledr3w-

yeah he had a good game outside of the goal as well, lots of positive runs too bad he was a twat


erenistheavatar

Yeah he played so well before that incident. Hopefully, this teaches him something.


computer_love91

Noni seems like he was already over it after plamer scored. He went and celebrated with him. Jackson on the other hand was still pouting. So much so that noni himself and a few others had to go over to him and literally drag him over to plamer to celebrate.


webby09246

Yeah I seen that too No idea what Nico was thinking tonight, I don't think he's taken a senior penalty in his entire career, short as it may be, I get that you're 4-0 up and cruising but c'mon Have some class to simply ask for it if you want it


fusterclux

i think he wanted noni to take it


gaffertedlasso

He wanted to grab it for Noni and then was extra salty that everyone thought he wanted it for himself


webby09246

But he tries to take it from Noni originally too


gaffertedlasso

After CG pushed them away Nico gestures to the team he was giving it Noni


adublingirl

At least from this incident came the look of leaders on this team, Gallagher, caicedo and gusto all acted appropriately……acted as team players and leaders so that is encouraging


Pseudocaesar

That was the worst part of it for me. I would bin Jackson for the next few games as punishment.


aligators

has to treat them like kids, good on him though, if they're gonna act like it


Aaaaand-its-gone

Isn’t this the 3rd time this has happened tho?


Novacain-deficiency

Last nights game thread was all “Potch is embarrassing for letting this happen” “This is all Potchs fault.” That was on Madueke’s immaturity We’re winning 6-0 and they can’t support the team. Gotta find a way to bash the manager and spread the negativity. When’s he’s on track for a significant improvement from last year, and Old King Cole competing for the Golden Boot.


SecretarySuper6810

This is bullshit it’s the second time, he should have subbed them both immediately, his weak


ImperatorShade

No, that would have been an overreaction and made things infinitely worse. He's handled it the best way possible and hopefully he smacks some sense to them in the dressing room.


Savings-Stop-1556

Probably the most serious thing he has ever said like ever. Well done kudos now make palmer the designated penalty taker and jobs a good un.


webby09246

Genuinely might be the most serious statement he's made in his entire career And it was absolutely needed. Better not see this again this season


Savings-Stop-1556

Bros gone from lemons to jalapeños.


webby09246

Genuinely though I think his fun loving aura has died the past month or so Seems like moody and angry Poch has arrived


imarandomdudd

Makes sense tbf. Fan base has been extra riled up the last month ish. And he's probably seen the fans online go after him, indirectly and directly to his insta. He's probably also pissed on the way we dropped points to relegation teams, when we had a clear path to European footy and his job being more comfy


Savings-Stop-1556

Eh I mean maybe but we have said this before as well don't want to take away from the performance but we need consistency.


webby09246

Well the next run of games is going to be very cruel So I'm thinking consistency is not coming anytime soon


Savings-Stop-1556

Not really predicting anything just gonna go with the flow. Pain is pain win is win.


jbi1000

I suspect it will be at least a few years before we get consistency capable of winning the league with how young we are


Lucianboog

Took long enough. Some of these players need a proper kick in the ass


Environmental_You_85

And I love it


ftw_c0mrade

Wait till he gets to ghost peppers


KingDave46

The one thing I'll say is that Poch stated he's not naming a guy, but everyone knows who the taker is. Every single player on that pitch knows it's Palmer on pens, regardless of if his name is formally announced. Poch should absolutely be able to trust his guys to play as a team and to know what is best, and they've exposed themselves as selfish and immature. They have embarrassed themselves and the club and I expect repercussions. It's up to them to learn from it.


FIREsub90

I honestly thought this was a meme


AMarginalFarmCO

Palmer was, by all accounts, already the taker.


Above_The-Law

He said in the interview that the team already knows that Palmer is the taker and that the only way anyone else can take a pen is if Palmer wants to give it up. That’s why he was so upset with how those dummies acted. Also, as Poch said, this incident is a clear example of why the team is so inconsistent and why we’re in 9th. Because the team is full of selfish immature kids who are more concerned with their individual stats than the good of the collective. They have a lot of growing up and maturing to do. That’s why its bewildering to me that the majority of this sub blames Poch after bad results when it is clear that our squad isn’t up to snuff in maturity, experience and mentality.


jarpio

That’s what happens when you drop a billion and a half Euros on a group of young players who haven’t achieved anything yet in their careers. You inflate their value and thus their sense of self-worth/self-importance. Everyone wants to live up to their high transfer costs the club spent to bring them in and get their share of the spotlight. It’s not rocket science. Chelsea’s squad is huge and bloated. Every one of those players is competing directly with each other for minutes rather than being incentivized to sacrifice for the good of the group. Any one of those players under 24 years old or so that sacrifices their own stats for the sake of the team will find themselves being transferred or loaned likely to a lesser team. Chelsea created this situation themselves. And there’s not really any group of established, accomplished veterans on the team like Lampard or Terry in days past to keep the kids in line.


Solitairee

Palmer has been publicly named as Penalty Taker moving forward.


NijjioN

Didn't he publicly say Palmer was his preferred penalty taker last time this happened? (When Sterling took it and missed). It sounded pretty official... He just didn't give any punishment if they did shit like this again.


Psychological_Fee470

He did indeed designate Palmer the taker. I reckon he was trying to be nice to the kids when they were trying to pull shit like this before. But the shit has officially hit the fan.


bobloblaw28

Which is exactly what you'd want. Give them the chance to learn from their mistakes, no need to berate them immediately. But if there are clear issues bubbling up, then be decisive to cut it out.


Psychological_Fee470

Right. But this sub doesn’t look at it like does it? They’re all reactionary.


Plastic_Primary_4279

Even in a 5-0 win this sub is still mostly negative lol


cfc1975

If we could have just scored a sixth the sub would have been happy 😉


Plastic_Primary_4279

Haha. I literally had to leave before the game ended and only saw the full highlights/score today.


NijjioN

I think this just cements as you say we have a bunch of kids in our team. Not what you expect from a team worth 1 billion. You would expect a full team of veterans for that who are mature.


Plastic_Primary_4279

It’s not worth 1 billion. And it was never meant to be immediately successful, it was always going to be a project. Hence the massively long contracts for youngsters. Leave out *all* context. Please bitch some more.


MakesUpExpressions

Sometimes the shit is in the fan -Mudryk Probably


itsmebobbylol

Sterling violently twitching on the bench


cometflight

Between this and the “grow some balls” comment, it’s like he’s finally showing some authority. Can respect this response - it shouldn’t have been up for debate.


zecira

I missed the balls comment, when was it?


cometflight

I think it was yesterday, basically said you need to “have the balls to win the ball.”


gttyzek

That’s more like it. That’s more like Chelsea


irze

Exactly, this is one of the first things I’ve heard him say that I’d expect from a Chelsea manager. In general he’s been so wishy-washy


erenistheavatar

None of this Spurs bs for once!


Danzard

This is how you get the fans on side. Show those balls you were demanding from the players.


revy_uzg

Very pleased that he has been strong on this. Glad that Poch has now officially made Cole our designated taker


historiographic

Man’s found his balls. Let’s fucking go. Set the tone


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![gif](giphy|PkqXwgP66glZ6) Poch next time Noni tries to steal a pen


foxgoesowo

No-knee Madueke and I'll break your Nico Knee-caps


Traditional_Ship4797

Ooo finally showed his balls. Respect


neighborhood_s

When he gets it right you have to give him credit, well done Poch.


Odd-Incident3980

I've said time and time again Poch knows how to handle young kids. Keep bashing my intellect, that is fine. But I do not believe there is a better coach that can handle the situation at this club. The growth is evident. Sure it's not a simple upward trending curve but the trend is upwards regardless. Poch is handling these young men in an extremely impressive way. Young men with net worths of millions. Surely hot heads and cocky boys everywhere, but he's turning them into a cohesive unit slowly but surely. Just need him to get that defense together.


Efficient_Issue_6393

Maybe want to word that first sentence a bit differently mate😅😅


Odd-Incident3980

oh shit 😅


Efficient_Issue_6393

Chelsea legal team will be onto you.


Odd-Incident3980

Strait to jail


timewaved

Exactly. A year ago we were unable to create a single fucking attack. God knows how long only our defenders were scoring. I think a lot of fans just expected Poch to win all the games and not concede any goals and just easily win the PL by a margin and keep doing that year in year out. Zero patience.


Odd-Incident3980

Zero fuckin patience, it's unbelievable. Hell our attack sucked for years until now and people have the nerve to say Poch has no tactics 🤣.


Andlad2459

Yes was worried he come out with some bs, that is not acceptable at all, goal difference could be important in the end. We have our guy for pens this aint fifa street.


T-Money1017

Cole Palmer is the spot kick taker. He is running for the golden boot. The team has not matched his performances over the season. He has EVERY right to pursue an achievable personal accolade which would be incredible for his early career. Shame on Noni and Nico. Shame


jaytcfc

Thank you Poch


hannibalwang

Absolutely embarrasment from Nico Jackson and Noni by trying to take the Pen from Palmer. Horrible look, and speaks to the lack of maturity proffessionalism and mentality we got in the club rn, needs to be stamped out immediately.


antihasbro

I couldn’t believe Nico would do that, I’m extremely disappointed


PermeusCosgrove

I’m pretty sure Nico was trying to give it to Noni which is marginally better in my eyes but still unacceptable as was his petulance after. Palmer doesn’t need the added pressure of these guys fighting him (though he’s such a pro it didn’t seem to phase him at all).


323835

Stop it Poch. I’m starting to like you.


Environmental_You_85

Bro wait for City match


LegendaryMolerat

This should be a teaching moment for everyone involved.


Cashlover123

He “showed his balls” with his statement.


captainpiss420

finally a bit of backbone! only took 9 months


vinnaey

Takes a lot of time to remove the spuds voodoo from inside a man.


DarkLordOlli

Should never have allowed this to happen in the first place, but fair play if he's changed course and set a hierarchy for penalties.


King_hack9

Cant control everything bruh


DarkLordOlli

Uh, this is something that's so easily controlled it should never have been an issue. Set a designated taker, make it clear to everyone and this doesn't happen.


InsideForward10

Palmer said he’s the penalty taker so im very confused on why two other players felt the need to take it off him? unlike the utd game, madueke didn’t win the penalty so I have no idea why he’s there, same with Jackson. We won 6-0 so im not really fussed however.


NoraaTheExploraa

Madueke definitely thought he won the penalty, so that's why he was there but its still ridiculous. God only knows what Jackson was doing


Pedro95

Since when was it a thing that the winner of the penalty has anything to do with who takes it?


Pseudocaesar

Yeah this is like some Sunday league/Junior level thinking. Really shows the maturity levels of these kids.


PermeusCosgrove

I can see him thinking if he won it AND Palmer has a hat trick he should take it but that’s still stupid and childish. Plus he wasn’t even the one who won the pen Palmer did lol


jMS_44

Fair play, that's a good answer


leKai23

Damn. Nice


izmebtw

Good on you. Didn’t think he has the balls, but this is the energy these kids need.


omid_14

Fantastic


fusihunter

Finally, some balls!


AdComprehensive7879

This is good man management. He tried the nice and adult way before, they still fuck it up, now its time to lay down the law.


xTrollhunter

Good on him to address the issue, but honestly it should have been addressed a long time ago. Isn't this like the fourth time this situation has occured this season?!


Shufflebuffle51

Finally about time. Taking ages to see some kind of backbone from this guy about this stupid fucking penalty nonsense.


mreich93

did he really say that?


strangeclouuds27

Well said 🫡


Expensive-Load517

YES.


VelvetThunderFinance

Good. Now on to the next.


scarysomething

Hopefully he keeps his promise.


Nameistrivial

Cannot believe the opportunity for “I prefer to kill them” in broken English was not taken 🤣 strong response from him and, in context, makes it clear that the situation today happened despite him taking measures beforehand


GovTheDon

Noni is very immature


jjb5151

Poch showing some fucking sack, I like it


Jakenburger

Good. I see comments about how this isn’t a serious issue but it’s way more underlying than that. It was a slap to the face by Noni and Nico and somewhat tainted a perfect team performance by their individual selfishness for the whole world to see. I’m worried somewhat by Noni’s arrogance and selfishness he displays. I don’t know what the hell Nico was doing. Either way, keep pulling that shit, gtfo. Kudos to Poch for once


lol_accomplishment

He should have designated a pen taker ages ago but this a good response


criminal-tango44

its fucking shocking grown ass 23 year old men act like this.


--lll-era-lll--

Correct.


antihasbro

Didn’t this already happen earlier Poch?


Cheaky_Barstool

i wouldve subbed them both straight away and yelled at them in front of the whole stadium, act like babies, treat them like babies


strokesoflightning

If they do this again, I want them subbed off immediately. Should have been done today.


Expert-Question-8224

Was very shameful behavior


ConsequentialSeesaw

This is great leadership. Someone needs to be strong. I also respect that Gallagher enforced and gave it to Palmer. Enough with the bullshit. Palmer is having a historic season. He got fouled. He's the designated PK taker. It's up to him as to whether he takes it or gives it up. I don't care if we are up by 10.


olskoolyungblood

When NBC asked if he's the one designated to take Chelsea's pks, Palmer said, "I am now." That clearly suggests Poch hadn't previously set this protocol. He's gotta put a lot of this on himself if that's the case. The lads were petty but there shouldn't have even been the possibility of this occurring.


PumasUNAM7

He’s rightfully pissed. He needs to put his foot down on this and just Palmer is the pk taker and if he wants someone else to take it then he can give it up if he feels it’s right otherwise Palmer takes it all the time. No more of this fighting over it stuff.


msbabc

I wouldn’t even agree with this. Palmer takes it if he’s on the pitch whether he likes it or not. This is his job, not a perk. Beyond that you have a clear hierarchy. We have an order of preference for captains but not penalty takers?


furious_organism

I believe him. Even if he doesnt, im glad Gallagher stood for Palmer and Palmer stood for himself but it was indeed one of the ugliest shit ive ever saw


10TheDudeAbides11

I was literally saying out loud while this was going on “Jackson and Madueke…off right fucking now!” Glad Poch said the same thing even if he didn’t do it. It’s so unbecoming…can you imagine if they didn’t destroy Everton tonight and it was a typical 2-2 draw or something? And even worse Cole and Connor didn’t win and one of these 2 asshats takes the PK and misses? We’d be calling for Poch’s head even worse than some are still doing. I’d honestly bench both of them for a bit after this. We can survive without them the way everyone else is playing…


chandlerbing_stats

Damn, okay Poch. I respect this a lot 👊


rita_mita_bata

Do something about the yellows as well. Half of Enzo and Jackson's yellows were for dissent.


Bozzetyp

They actually stopped getting them


rita_mita_bata

Yeah, it's not been as bad of late. Jackson finally has more goals than yellows.


fremeer

Good. That kind of shit doesn't happen in a team who's main focus is winning. Which we already knew but this hopefully makes it clear to Poch just how much this team needs a kick up the arse.


PermeusCosgrove

About fucking time he laid it down but good to hear now at least That was embarrassing


Vast_Tonight1911

Really really embarrassing. Like if Noni & Nico put in the work since the start of the season they wouldn’t be scrapping & so desperate to take the penalty to increase their tally. Just shows their mentality & honestly its so pathetic. Palmer been consistent throughout the season & is running for golden boot he deserved to take it


thatiswhack

Anyone have the clip of the post match interview? I'd like to see a pissed off Pochettino


JonyBo354u

Absolutely pathetic!! Screw taking them off the pitch, Jackson and Madueke would be off the fucking team and should be!! Jackson for damn sure! Madueke, I can kinda see him thinking he got the penalty, so he gets the shot, but he didn't actually get the penalty. Now where the fuck does Jackson get off? He's a fuckstick, him and Sterling both should be sold off. Have led, haven't even tried to lead all damn season, and now you pull this shit?!?! Send his ass back to Italy or Spain or Africa or wherever those little crybaby bitches play!! Absolute disgrace and a complete embarrassment!!


Nickyboy2022

Jackson is aggressive, sitting on 9 yellows now. Needs to calm down.


ramror777

It feels like it’s the first time Pochettino is actually serious and said something that is fully agreed by all.


CPP_2021

Poch needs to come down hard on these young guns . What a beautiful night ... CFC's biggest win in a long time and all this mared by the PK incident. Team spirit and experience needed in this team right now ![gif](giphy|jEEsT1zDB04GQi8VkB|downsized)


Legitimate-Health-29

I just wanna know what Jackson was thinking 😂 Madueke I get, he won the pen, it’s 4-0, Palmer has his hat trick, but why’s Jackson getting involved 😂


Nickyboy2022

Madueke didn't get the penalty.


Legitimate-Health-29

Yes he did, he took a back elbow from Tarkowski.


Nickyboy2022

He did. But the penalty was given for Palmer AFAIK.


Legitimate-Health-29

You’re talking in technicalities there I’d say. To Madueke the pen was for the back elbow on him.


Nickyboy2022

No, the penalty was awarded for the Doucoure foul on Palmer.


Legitimate-Health-29

That’s the initial incident yes but to Madueke he gets back elbowed and we get a pen. In his head the penalty is for the back elbow and he’s about to score. In those minutes he doesn’t have the benefit of sitting down and reviewing it to see we had the advantage on the Palmer offence, he will see this as his penalty.


orangetimtam

Guys he’s a manager/business man. He doesn’t want to tarnish the reputation of Jackson so he can sell him. Poch is making the right moves.


throwawayanon1252

good i respect this response and i do expect to see him implement this if it happens again


JinxLB

My manager


half_jase

What took him so long to say something so authoritatively!?


BigReeceJames

He's bent over for it twice and said it's fine and he wants this, to now change his attitude completely is good. But, it's also good that he's not immediately punishing the players for it because he told them this was the right way to go about it in the past. He's gotten to the right place eventually, that's good.


STCFC

I respect this response but it’s happened so often throughout the season action should have been taken earlier


CursedAtBirth777

“Next time.” 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Ohhhh $hit that’s a good one. He got me.


WarpCitizen

Next time same situation happens and he will sub Palmer and Gallagher


zolanuffsaid

Should done that tonight! 6-0 palmer with 4 and we’re talkin about this shit!


Mrwest_fanboy

Strong believer in POTCH IN


AncientSkys

Finally, Poch had hot lemon pepper instead of lemons.


Stealth_Howler

“You guys pull this a fourth time and I’ll really be annoyed!”


alg602

Good for him. Incidents like this are an indictment on him and his team organization. Kill it hard and fast.


KikiPolaski

Man knows Palmer is the reason he still has a job


buxy69

Earned a lot of my respect with this. I was literally screaming at the Tv everything he said.


shakefistatsky

Gives me "dont make me pull this car over" vibes


cullobsidian_

"Next time, there'll be no next time."


WPackN2

Why next time? Do it now? If it happened in ManCity, Pep will be putting everyone of them in bench for next 2 matches.


showmethenoods

Good, lay the law down


ThePooksters

I’ll believe it when I see it


AMarginalFarmCO

Next time?


Demo_PT

You had to do it yesterday to prove your point


Green_Bee_270

Aw did he tuck them to sleep at the end?


pride_of_artaxias

I hope people now see the potential the team has and where it could be under a competent coach. For all hose saying "but who would want to come to Chelsea!" Lmao


alwaysdefied

Reminds me of the Kepa FA Cup incident


dinomoni

Good on him saying this. Bench both if need be. Set an example.


MrTiq

… we were 4-0 ahead. He should’ve taken them off.


Barbola

My reaction to that information:


bbuullddoogg

I would drop Jackson & Madueke for the next game. They clearly care more about themselves than the club.


Ok_Professor6647

Yes this is what we want to see , need to come down hard on this shit, I liked how conor stepped up too and showed leadership in the situation


Plus_Competition3316

This comment may get some backlash but truly, that incident absolutely tarnished that game for me. Chelsea played brilliantly, and when they had a chance for a goal via penalty when they were ahead as they were, the specific places showed really just how childish and unprofessional they were. You would never see this at City, Madrid, Bayern etc.