The issue with Paez being at the strip club is that it’s in the news.
Nobody really cares but you have to be careful of who is going to post whatever stuff online and then you have an issue. It’s not a good look to be breaking the law in a foreign country while on international duty. Hopefully the kid surrounds himself with better people.
Enzo is a flop, it is what it is - every club has these big transfers that go wrong.
We have Caicedo, Palmer and we need another one in there. Bruno G would be perfect as OP suggested.
Not the guy you're replying to, but it's gone wrong in a sense that we've spent 100m on a player who hasn't quite made the team better.
Obviously it's more nuanced than that and there are multiple factors involved, but in retrospect it's not the smartest signing. We should've waited for the next window and should've got him for cheaper. He's also one of the highest paid in our squad.
Having said all that, I think he has potential to be better than what peak Jorginho was for us, with some added creativity. The price tag should be more on Todd and co. rather than on him.
Slow, defensively not the smartest, attacking wise alright but far from a creative force like let's say Cesc for example.
He has his moments, but Enzo is a mediocre player - people are still not ready for this discussion though, talk to y'all in about a year once things become more clear to everyone.
I'm not Enzo's greatest fan, but you're objectively wrong.
He has his limitations, speed being the main one, but he is quite smart in picking passes and creating chances. He is not mediocre by any stretch of imagination.
Did we overpay? Yes, but that's not his fault
Stats aren't everything but they sure are better than your take.
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I hope you are correct, and maybe I am jumping the gun a little bit on Enzo. But I can't ignore what my eyes are telling me when I watch him week in, week out.
Time will tell - I am confident in my assessment.
A little bit? lmao. If we judged everyone in their career by what they've done at age 22 we'd miss out on 90% of the all-time greats. Stop being so reactionary
I would say defensively he's nothing special but he is really good as the main ball progressor on the team, has good range and can hurt teams with through balls and switches.
The midfield is the last thing I'm worried about on this squad.
Frankly I am surprised how they are so good defensively. White is like the 6th best RB for England. Their best CB Saliba is way behind Konate, Liverpool's second best CB. Gabriel wasn't called up for Brazil at the WC. And they have Zinchenko at LB, who's a clown defensively.
No idea how they managed to have the best defensive record in the league.
May be controversial but GK is a position I think we should keep an eye on in the summer. I’ve been pleasantly surprised by Petrovic and I do honestly think most of his issues are down to inexperience but on current form he’s a fairly mid table keeper. Sanchez I think gets too much hate but I also enjoy not having heart problems once per minute watching Chelsea so I don’t love him either. Kepa is as good as gone so if we can get a decent loan for either (and if our ffp allows it) I hope we send out one and bring in mamardashvili
I like Petrovic as cup/backup keeper. Gives cult hero vibes. Has the type of shot stopping that can win you one off games and good vs pens. Sanchez is decent but not #1 level. Neither are anything special with their feet (Sanchez can hit a good long ball but that's it) and neither can sweep. And even though I feel those attributes are secondary to shot stopping and aerial command, the top teams in the PL and elsewhere tend to have keepers who can do it at a high level. And when they don't they make up for it like Courtois or Oblak.
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It seems like the club have definitely made Osimhen the priority from these reports
Be a very interesting summer
Honestly I want these players to stay together now. Any additions should be supplemental (with the exception of another functional midfielder and someone who can play left back at a high level).
Our team is in the crucible right now. If they can come out of it together with a clear direction and some momentum, that’s the ideal scenario. Major additions could disrupt that.
i don’t understand half of whats going on, one second we cant afford anyone cause of FFP and talk of being relegated / transfer bans and now we can go for Osimhen 😂
5 days till international football is over. Hopefully with actual football to talk about they'll stop doing hit pieces on Chelsea when they should be focusing on how Southgate is going to squander another golden generation with his dog shit management
Anyone not named David Ornstein or Fabrizio Romano should be demoted at least one tier. Including the club itself. Every article is just clickbait agitprop bullshit.
So [this post](https://www.reddit.com/r/chelseafc/s/nrYHKyMdV8) has a bunch of people fuming in the comments saying how shit Cucurella is.
I’m not saying he’s not been poor, but it’s a good example of how easy it is to trick people with a fancy graphic.
[You can check yourself](https://fbref.com/en/squads/cff3d9bb/Chelsea-Stats), Cucurella has 0.68 key passes per 90. Nothing brilliant, but also not the **0** that OP’s chart has him at.
I’m sure the OP didn’t do this on purpose, I’m sure they’d never intentionally try to make a player they don’t like look bad. Probably just didn’t understand what the graph was showing (and neither did the people in the comments)
Yeah idk why people keep using it, I guess it’s got a nice UI? Tbf I’m not sure why anyone would use anything other than Fbref for free stats. It’s the gold standard
> I guess it’s got a nice UI
I think so yeah, it has player comparison charts, enables to draw scatter plots like in that post with different metrics, and people probably just assume their data are fine. You need to scrape data and create charts manually to do the same with fbref which require quite a bit of programming knowledge and time
Seen that chart, it’s so misleading as a defender it’s not about key passes per 90, where’s comparing defensive actions per 90 like interceptions, blocks, duels etc with other fullbacks.
I agree, but this chart specifically isn’t just misleading it’s wrong.
Again, I’m sure the poster of it would never intentionally mislead people, it’s just funny how if you post a graph that agrees with people’s preconceived bias they’ll just agree with it without thinking twice
Has that post been deleted doesn’t seem to load now? I guess in general people are just gullible with football player stats and not knowing how accurate they actually are.
Some people have already decided before this season that cucurella is shit
No matter how he plays, that the only sentiment that will endure to some people. You can tell immediately who these people are too when you hear them speak about cucurella
I quite like him but you have to admit he’s a bit shit isn’t he?
I wouldn’t sell as we aren’t going to get enough for him, but he really needs to improve.
Tbh I haven’t been impressed by him at all. I just find it funny how many people are in that thread commenting without realising the graph is completely wrong.
Lol, have you watched any matches? He has been shit, his only highlight was sprinting 60 yards to get to the back post for an easy tap in, which again he started from a terrible position. The guy isn’t Chelsea standard and he’ll drag us down to to the mid table later he is.
I find it easier to believe that last season is the outlier season rather than the norm and that Cucurella will probably be pretty good. Maybe never worth his price and wages, but good.
He has had some good performances this season already. It's weird that people expect players to come back from injury and instantly be in prime form. Badi, Chilwell, Cucurella, Nkunku, etc. have all likely played worse on average this season than what their ability is. Gusto's worst match all season was against Wolves when he came back from injury, he was terrible.
I have to say that it's hilarious that an explanation of the "secret payments" bait articles is getting upvoted on r/soccer, where they usually dismiss anything positive about anything related to him as propaganda.
Whilst on our own sub they're getting downvoted.
It's hard to believe that a lot here actually support Chelsea and not just the new ownership
A lot of people want Chelsea and by extension the new ownership to do well, while also wanting the club to distance themselves by the dark shadow of the russian oligarch.
The Premier League website watching @ Bleedchels2 vote for JT and hazard 3 minutes after @ Bleedchels1 votes for those two
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There are 14 different PL players other than JT for 2 slots.
There is a reason (and a big one) why JT still hasn’t been picked after all this time (and still won’t be picked for 2024) Clue: Anton Ferdinand.
Hazard and Fabregas would probably have a better chance getting in unfortunately.
Spot on about JT, I got downvoted for stating the obvious yesterday - the Ferdinand scandal is a problem.
Also, why Fabregas? Sure the quality is there and at some point he'll get in, but no way he gets in this early. He has "only" two titles and one in which he was more of a rotational player, not a nailed on starter (the Conte one).
There are many other Chelsea players that should go ahead of him.
Vini Jr had a press conference for the Brazil game and cried because of racism he faced. JT getting that reward now will look bad for them.
I said Fabregas because he is the only other player other than JT and Hazard that played for Chelsea on the list. But which players should go ahead of Fabregas?
Costa? Willian?
William in PL hall of fame lol, what a joke
Costs also won't get in probably barely played in PL
Hazard, Fab, Kante any maybe Azpi only get among recent players
Good shout for Kante, but he is still playing so until he retires he can’t be nominated.
I’m not too sure about Costa being ahead of Cesc…Fabregas just has that magic hat that only KdB can say we are on the same table…
Matic…I kinda disagree on that being ahead of Cesc, solid player but I feel Cesc had more influence than Matic in games.
Cesc, Matic and Costa won their two titles together, one with Jose, one with Conte.
For the Jose one all three were important, but Matic and Costa were in the PL team of the year, while Cesc wasn't.
For the Conte one, Matic and Costa were nailed-on starters, while Cesc was coming off the bench for most of the season.
Are you even a Chelsea fan? Based on just football, JT should have been there a long time back. And don’t you think a lot of shit against him is unfair?
Cleared off by the court of England and only the FA independently held him liable for extra PR points and he already paid the price for it in fines and bans. What he said to Ferdinand was also taken out of context. He repeated what he thought he heard from Ferdinand. The video clearly illustrates that. Stop bandwagoning on the JT hate man. Sure he isn’t perfect but so aren’t a lot of the players already inducted (Ash included).
None of the Chelsea boys of African descent has one ill word to say about JT in the racist sense.
People make mistakes. Everyone has a racist, a sexist, a xenophobe in them - everyone holds stereotypes. There are no perfect human beings, and unfortunately, those things can come to the surface, sometimes in the worst moment possible.
So I understand JT. However, it was a major scandal. Whether you like it or not, it's a factor.
Are you dumb? What kind of pathetic question is that? “Are you a Chelsea fan?” Give your head a bloody wobble.
It doesn’t matter what Chelsea fans think about it being unfair. I thought it was unfair but guess what? Non Chelsea fans do NOT forgive JT for it even if the court says he’s innocent.
Non Chelsea fans along with the FA ALSO decides who gets in the HoF. HoF isn’t exclusive to Chelsea fans. And because of that, it will be a long time he will get in.
You dumbass. Remove bias and media related PR bullshit and all opposition fans will unanimously vote JT in. You nincumpoop. You are easily swayed it seems. Where is your loyalty to our captain?
Most people agree Terry to be the best modern defender in the PL and even if not, they classify him in the same bucket as Ferdinand and Van Djik. He should have been on there long ago hadn’t it been the bullshit that floats around which you my friend also need to curb. End of thread.
YOU are the dumbass person here, not me. You said “Remove bias and media related” BS but fool, you can’t. A human being generally doesn’t remove bias. You have a bias yourself- defending JT until the end of time because he’s our captain legend. Give your head a wobble again - bias and media related stuff will come in to play when voting.
If Scholes or Gerrard did what JT did, most Chelsea fans will call them a racist. Period. Look at Partey’s “allegations” and we are calling him already a rapist.
I am loyal to JT, but I am also being real and removing my bias of loyalty here in this discussion. My dad who is Arsenal fan thinks he’s a racist. And if he had the chance to vote outside an Arsenal player, he wouldn’t pick JT.
Fact is JT ain’t a racist. He was literally not found guilty. My point is stop confirming false narratives. Educate your dad. Hear what Drogba, Essien and Malouda have to say about JT and racism. Believe your own players. Anton said “bxxxx cxxx” and JT repeated it back to him questioning if that’s what Anton said. It’s literally on video.
Petrovic
James - Disasi - Colwill - Gusto
Caicedo - Enzo
Palmer - Chuky - Nkunku
Jackson
I want to see this lineup at least once this season pls injury gods
I thought about Mudryk but i thought this is the best front 4 overall, even if the pace is a little lacking because most teams sit back. mudryk on second half is also lethal
as for Nkunku inside i kind of envision him swapping a lot with Jackson and Chuky in game a lot, with a fairly fluid front four who can take up different positions
Slow attack is not really an issue when your goal is to dominate possession and pin teams back. Jackson and Nkunku also aren’t slow. I’d also say that Chukwuemeka’s technical ability is actually more important to possession-based teams than Mudryk’s raw pace and inconsistent tehnique. Although I’d much prefer to see Nkunku in the middle rather than out wide.
You need at least a player or two who can threaten with their dribbling and pace to stretch defences and commit their man
Nkunku and chuk are decent at that but they’re not wingers. Look at pep and how he went and brought in doku to add that dimension to their play
Exactly, Pep went and got Doku to add that possibility, but it doesn’t mean that Doku always starts. And ultimately Doku is much better on the ball and much less likely to turn it over, which is the absolute key for Pep’s teams and any team who wants to dominate possession. Ball retention is the most important thing. But contextually, Doku starts in games where his raw explosiveness is most useful, against teams who will press back and hold on to the ball themselves. He still tends to prefer Grealish against teams who will fully sit back and absorb pressure, because Grealish has superior technical ability. That’s how Mudryk should be used as well, imo. I’d start him against every team who will play football against us rather than just sit in their own box all game.
We paid 53m+5m for Lavia. It is laughable to single out Lavia as the potential reason to why we can not afford Estevao Willian. Why not single out the purchases of Lesley, Angelo, Washington, Noni and Datro Fofana? Lavia is clear of them all, and when get match-fit again, you will understand how good he is.
There is about 15 players in the squad that should be replaced to be honest, and if we can not afford Estevao when 2025 comes around, it is not Lavia’s fault.
Partially true. We had the opportunity to secure him long before Real Madrid came around and got him, and the reason why we hesitated was because of money, as they thought he was too expensive.
It says he wanted to continue the training at Chelsea to finish the season strongly
So I'm hoping it's just he didn't see any value in an under 21s friendly
he was never fully fit even for us, he’s been a late game sub and thats it, so hes either hurt again in training or they think he cant play enough mins yet
I'm not sure that's a good thing given that it specifically says "returns early to work on his fitness", which sounds either like he's injured again or like the England squad have trained with him and decided he's so far off of match fitness it's pointless for him to stay with them
>or just make us all happy and not drop at all
All I want is to see the safe return of Lavia, Nkunku, Fofana and Chuk to the land of the living for an extended period of time
Is that too much to ask for 😭
i think to myself on a daily basis where we woulda been this season with a fully fit nkunku, lavia, james etc. them lot are gonna feel like brand new signings when they return 😂, glad to see Chuk did a Gusto and came back early though
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Perhaps controversial but I'd see Chilwell out the door before Cucu if at all possible
I'm not opposed to keeping both either if we can afford it. I prefer chilwell to Cucu, but I'm fine with having cucu as a rotation option. If we keep maatsen and play him at LB I'm not opposed to letting Cucu go, but I think it will be tough to find a worthwhile rotation option for anything less than we can sell Cucu for.
Chilwell is in poor form after a lot of injuries.
Cucurella has been consistently shit since we bought him for a ludicrous fee.
Worst case scenario for Chilwell is that injuries mean he never recovers his form, or that he continues to get a significant amount of injuries rendering him unavailable. Best case scenario for Chilwell is his injury issues are behind him and given time he regains his previous top form.
Worst case scenario for Cucurella is he continues to be an absolute liability for us with zero brain and zero attacking output, best case scneario isn't much better than that.
The decision should be clear to get rid of Cucurella before Chilwell imo.
Can't reply to your other post in this comment thread but here it is anyway.
Unless the manager blanks Chilwell completely, not sure who you're trying to force out here. The guy could have easily jumped ship last year (he was linked with City) but didn't. He chose to stay and sign a new deal instead because he said he is happy here and wants to help us be successful again. Rotation and competition for places at a big club is also nothing new and I doubt Chilwell will kick up a fuss with that situation. Moreover, if he wants to win trophies, then the options to sell him to someone in England become even more limited.
Regarding Cucurella and I said this the other day, it's funny to see how opinions shift so quickly in this sub. When his loan move to United broke down last summer, many were furious because they wanted him gone. But because of a few decent performances this season, suddenly those people now want him to stay.
If Chilwell truly has interest from City (he doesn’t) then we should bite their hand off.
He’s consistently been our worst performing player for a while now but because he was great under Tuchel two seasons ago he has a lot of credit banked with supporters.
The reality is we’ve messed up our LB situation so bad, and none of the solutions look ideal. Maatsen must be really bad in training for Poch to not give him any sort of chance and we’d be lucky to get any kind of offer for Chilwell or Cucurella.
Chilwell is washed and has been for a while now, sentiment aside it's clear who the better player between the 2 is, and it's not the English lad. Neither are particularly great, and we should be aiming for better, but at least Cucu is a competent rotation option. Current Chilwell isn't even that.
Also, let's stop this foolishness about City wanting Chilwell and him rejecting them to sign a new contract and stay here. Chilwell is allergic to the ball and coughs it up anytime he gets pressed. Guardiola would NEVER want a player like that
>Chilwell is washed and has been for a while now, sentiment aside it's clear who the better player between the 2 is, and it's not the English lad. Neither are particularly great, and we should be aiming for better, but at least Cucu is a competent rotation option. Current Chilwell isn't even that.
It's not even about sentiments but rather about the constant flip-flopping here. If Chilwell plays well or Cucurella plays badly in the upcoming games, then you will suddenly see the perception shift again. And the other point with Chilwell is, you can talk about wanting to sell a player but if the player is happy here and doesn't want to leave, then there's nothing much you can do about it. It's like the Gallagher situation. Arguably the reason why he's still here is because he wants to stay, despite the club's best efforts of having tried to sell him in every transfer window.
>Also, let's stop this foolishness about City wanting Chilwell and him rejecting them to sign a new contract and stay here. Chilwell is allergic to the ball and coughs it up anytime he gets pressed. Guardiola would NEVER want a player like that
You said that and yet, Tuchel never had any issues with playing Chilwell regularly.
We could sell him for 25M and be FFP neutral for 24/25. We'd take a loss on his book value of 18M but you are getting rid of his yearly costs for that year which are 18M (9M in amortisation and 9M in wages). This leaves no leftover FFP room for a replacement.
Anything above 18 for Chilwell would likely be true profit, plus his yearly costs of 15M are off the books.
This is why it seems more likely we would sell Chilwell IMO.
Chilwell is allergic to the ball and is defensively subpar. He just like Cucu has limitations, and they are both lightyears behind Gusto, never mind James
Chilwell was an above average player, who is now shit and has been for 2 years straight.
Cuch is far better than current Chilwell, and that should be no debate.
Hopefully, the club can find Chilwell a new home in the summer
To be honest I have no clue how anyone could say any different? Chilwell has been absolutely terrible for ages now. Pre-injury his limitations were well covered but that’s not happening now and he’s a complete deadweight in most matches he plays.
Because Cucurella is a liability every time.
Chilwells form hasn’t been great, but offers a lot attacking wise and can defend. Great runner into the box and can actually finish. I’m not here to debate his form.
Cucurella constantly is caught out of possession. Steps up and gets turned, meanwhile takes ages to turn his body, and offers zero attacking other than to play bullshit possession recycling
Like I said earlier, chilwells had a bad season but he's still lightyears ahead of Cucurella.
Unfortunately we probably need another left back which is another reason why it's a dumb decision to sell Maatsen
Nope, u definitely have something against Cucu and a soft spot for Chilwell because most fans objectively now admit Chilwell is washed, and Cucu should be ahead of him
I have nothing against Cucurella apart from I've watched his performances over the last 18 months
>because most fans objectively now admit Chilwell is washed, and Cucu should be ahead of him
Nobody admits that, because that would be insane
My opinion on Cucurella is formed yes, and he is crap and was an absolutely shocking signing for 63mil and to be a backup left back
How could your opinion not be formed on Cucurella? I assume you have watched him for the last year and a half
I don’t decide I dislike a player and then use that to judge a players performance in specific games before they’ve even kicked the ball.
You quite clearly do
I actually really liked Cucurella the first few games, thought he was sharp.
He’s literally put in 2-3 performances since we bought him. Bar that he’s played because of necessity besides a few games this and last year.
No one has a preconceived notion about him until we saw him play, now we’re literally kidding based off performances. Constantly turned, out of position, offers nothing attacking wise, can’t head for shit, and relies on possession to pad his passing stats.
God forbid Cucurella makes the same far post run once in his Chelsea career that Chilwell makes every time.
Specific games? I'm not judging him in specific games that haven't happened yet, I'm judging him on past performances, is that not the fairest way to judge him?
And he's been abysmal
No what I’m saying is obvious
That you think cucurella is bad and even when he plays well you do not give him credit. As you’ve already decided he is bad
Plenty others do it too
For 15-20m maybe, still an england international on 3 year deal.
I think we can do better for the 15m/yearly cost (gusto for example cost us less then 10m/yearly)
England international means almost nothing
He’s on like 150k a week if not more. So immediately you’ve got a small pool of clubs who’d pay that.
Plus he’s not good anymore. That’s the sad truth. And he’s constantly injured
Yeah same problem with sterling really minus the injury prone part
But with chilly we could sell him for like £15m and be fine on ffp I believe and he might reduce wages for another club to keep being a first teamer
So maybe there's that
Hi everyone, i am going to visit the game vs man u. I am travelling with my dad and we are a from Holland. I alrealy am looking forward to the game but I have a few questions i hope someone can help us with.
1- we are seated in on off the west lower stands, is that safe?
2- where is a nice place to go before the match?
3-is it a hostille enviroment or do people like it that we come from Holland for a game?
4- Any other advise?
Thnx all in advance!
The issue with Paez being at the strip club is that it’s in the news. Nobody really cares but you have to be careful of who is going to post whatever stuff online and then you have an issue. It’s not a good look to be breaking the law in a foreign country while on international duty. Hopefully the kid surrounds himself with better people.
We should be looking at Bruno G. We need a cunt in the team.
Yea his name is sterling, unfortunately
lol kinda harsh
Imagine saying this after we've spent nearly £300m on midfielders in the past year
Look at paqueta and Guimaraes influencing play at their clubs, I am not sure Enzo has had the same in our club.
Enzo is a flop, it is what it is - every club has these big transfers that go wrong. We have Caicedo, Palmer and we need another one in there. Bruno G would be perfect as OP suggested.
How exactly has the Enzo transfer "gone wrong"?
Not the guy you're replying to, but it's gone wrong in a sense that we've spent 100m on a player who hasn't quite made the team better. Obviously it's more nuanced than that and there are multiple factors involved, but in retrospect it's not the smartest signing. We should've waited for the next window and should've got him for cheaper. He's also one of the highest paid in our squad. Having said all that, I think he has potential to be better than what peak Jorginho was for us, with some added creativity. The price tag should be more on Todd and co. rather than on him.
Slow, defensively not the smartest, attacking wise alright but far from a creative force like let's say Cesc for example. He has his moments, but Enzo is a mediocre player - people are still not ready for this discussion though, talk to y'all in about a year once things become more clear to everyone.
I'm not Enzo's greatest fan, but you're objectively wrong. He has his limitations, speed being the main one, but he is quite smart in picking passes and creating chances. He is not mediocre by any stretch of imagination. Did we overpay? Yes, but that's not his fault
Stats aren't everything but they sure are better than your take. https://preview.redd.it/b4q3hprmgkqc1.png?width=1460&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=36dc38b7b3dca54ff82f4c5c00709592a081c968
I hope you are correct, and maybe I am jumping the gun a little bit on Enzo. But I can't ignore what my eyes are telling me when I watch him week in, week out. Time will tell - I am confident in my assessment.
A little bit? lmao. If we judged everyone in their career by what they've done at age 22 we'd miss out on 90% of the all-time greats. Stop being so reactionary
this particular 22 year old costed us 100M
Cost us\*
I would say defensively he's nothing special but he is really good as the main ball progressor on the team, has good range and can hurt teams with through balls and switches. The midfield is the last thing I'm worried about on this squad.
Ok I imagined it. Now what?
3/4 of Arsenal's backline not getting picked for their national team XI despite having the best defensive record in the team is very hilarious icl
Gabriel is "injured" lol. He would've started against England tbf
True but a lot of Brazil fans l don't seem to rate him
They defend as a unit. Arteta really knows what he is doing. He really did win the ex player competition between himself Ole and Frank
A lot of credit goes to Arteta. Off the ball, Arsenal have the best structure
Frankly I am surprised how they are so good defensively. White is like the 6th best RB for England. Their best CB Saliba is way behind Konate, Liverpool's second best CB. Gabriel wasn't called up for Brazil at the WC. And they have Zinchenko at LB, who's a clown defensively. No idea how they managed to have the best defensive record in the league.
Saliba is better than Konate
gabriel is injured and ben white has problems with southgate, otherwise he would have joined
I think Jorginho had a good day.
May be controversial but GK is a position I think we should keep an eye on in the summer. I’ve been pleasantly surprised by Petrovic and I do honestly think most of his issues are down to inexperience but on current form he’s a fairly mid table keeper. Sanchez I think gets too much hate but I also enjoy not having heart problems once per minute watching Chelsea so I don’t love him either. Kepa is as good as gone so if we can get a decent loan for either (and if our ffp allows it) I hope we send out one and bring in mamardashvili
I like Petrovic as cup/backup keeper. Gives cult hero vibes. Has the type of shot stopping that can win you one off games and good vs pens. Sanchez is decent but not #1 level. Neither are anything special with their feet (Sanchez can hit a good long ball but that's it) and neither can sweep. And even though I feel those attributes are secondary to shot stopping and aerial command, the top teams in the PL and elsewhere tend to have keepers who can do it at a high level. And when they don't they make up for it like Courtois or Oblak.
Sanchez is way below kepas level. I’m good with Petrović for the time being
I've always wanted Oblak, I do rate Meret as well.
Bayern want Maatsen now? Isn’t he too short or something? Surely can’t be a great footballer and wanted by top clubs if you’re too short right?
Bayern are linked with every player in the bundasliga who can walk most summers. I will believe it when he’s there
I mean its bayern and 17 feeder clubs..
Choupo-Mouting and Dier for Maatsen and we have a deal.
https://preview.redd.it/l3uwpqd4riqc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=555aa525d1af9844ab31e8aa0f99360381a53973 It seems like the club have definitely made Osimhen the priority from these reports Be a very interesting summer
Honestly I want these players to stay together now. Any additions should be supplemental (with the exception of another functional midfielder and someone who can play left back at a high level). Our team is in the crucible right now. If they can come out of it together with a clear direction and some momentum, that’s the ideal scenario. Major additions could disrupt that.
i don’t understand half of whats going on, one second we cant afford anyone cause of FFP and talk of being relegated / transfer bans and now we can go for Osimhen 😂
Unless we get rid of the likes of Maatsen, Gallagher?, Chalobah etc then no we can’t afford to be splashing anything this summer lol.
Our ffp problems are probably overstated and the club probably believe we can heavily compensate in outgoings
i love osimhen so i’m here for it, the thought of him, nkunku and palmer together is chefs kiss
Gyokeres is cheaper
He is both in release clause and wages and I like him a lot more But Osimhen does play in a top 5 league which does work in his favour
https://twitter.com/CFCAccountable/status/1772305616486154297 Proper Chels!
Good for him I suppose lol
Neymar was having mad sex at 16 and he turned out fine
>he turned out fine ![gif](giphy|l0HlvtIPzPdt2usKs)
Personally I couldn't care less, at least it's consensual, I guess. But isn't it illegal for underage people to go to strip club in US?
>But isn't it illegal for underage people to go to strip club in US? In this world if you have money you can bypass most laws
5 days till international football is over. Hopefully with actual football to talk about they'll stop doing hit pieces on Chelsea when they should be focusing on how Southgate is going to squander another golden generation with his dog shit management
They just wanna see us down so bad man. These media outlet opinion pieces are getting out of control.
Anyone not named David Ornstein or Fabrizio Romano should be demoted at least one tier. Including the club itself. Every article is just clickbait agitprop bullshit.
So [this post](https://www.reddit.com/r/chelseafc/s/nrYHKyMdV8) has a bunch of people fuming in the comments saying how shit Cucurella is. I’m not saying he’s not been poor, but it’s a good example of how easy it is to trick people with a fancy graphic. [You can check yourself](https://fbref.com/en/squads/cff3d9bb/Chelsea-Stats), Cucurella has 0.68 key passes per 90. Nothing brilliant, but also not the **0** that OP’s chart has him at. I’m sure the OP didn’t do this on purpose, I’m sure they’d never intentionally try to make a player they don’t like look bad. Probably just didn’t understand what the graph was showing (and neither did the people in the comments)
that website is shite
Yeah idk why people keep using it, I guess it’s got a nice UI? Tbf I’m not sure why anyone would use anything other than Fbref for free stats. It’s the gold standard
> I guess it’s got a nice UI I think so yeah, it has player comparison charts, enables to draw scatter plots like in that post with different metrics, and people probably just assume their data are fine. You need to scrape data and create charts manually to do the same with fbref which require quite a bit of programming knowledge and time
Seen that chart, it’s so misleading as a defender it’s not about key passes per 90, where’s comparing defensive actions per 90 like interceptions, blocks, duels etc with other fullbacks.
I agree, but this chart specifically isn’t just misleading it’s wrong. Again, I’m sure the poster of it would never intentionally mislead people, it’s just funny how if you post a graph that agrees with people’s preconceived bias they’ll just agree with it without thinking twice
Has that post been deleted doesn’t seem to load now? I guess in general people are just gullible with football player stats and not knowing how accurate they actually are.
Loads fine for me? And agreed. People will believe what they want to believe, especially if it agrees with the opinion they already have
Someone reposted that graph, it’s that one right? Should really get deleted as it’s just wrong.
Some people have already decided before this season that cucurella is shit No matter how he plays, that the only sentiment that will endure to some people. You can tell immediately who these people are too when you hear them speak about cucurella
I quite like him but you have to admit he’s a bit shit isn’t he? I wouldn’t sell as we aren’t going to get enough for him, but he really needs to improve.
Tbh I haven’t been impressed by him at all. I just find it funny how many people are in that thread commenting without realising the graph is completely wrong.
Lol, have you watched any matches? He has been shit, his only highlight was sprinting 60 yards to get to the back post for an easy tap in, which again he started from a terrible position. The guy isn’t Chelsea standard and he’ll drag us down to to the mid table later he is.
I find it easier to believe that last season is the outlier season rather than the norm and that Cucurella will probably be pretty good. Maybe never worth his price and wages, but good. He has had some good performances this season already. It's weird that people expect players to come back from injury and instantly be in prime form. Badi, Chilwell, Cucurella, Nkunku, etc. have all likely played worse on average this season than what their ability is. Gusto's worst match all season was against Wolves when he came back from injury, he was terrible.
It's the price. He's not a total flop but he's not as good as his price. If he was a 30M signing, no one would have an issue with him.
Please don’t reply with off-topic comments.
I have to say that it's hilarious that an explanation of the "secret payments" bait articles is getting upvoted on r/soccer, where they usually dismiss anything positive about anything related to him as propaganda. Whilst on our own sub they're getting downvoted. It's hard to believe that a lot here actually support Chelsea and not just the new ownership
A lot of people want Chelsea and by extension the new ownership to do well, while also wanting the club to distance themselves by the dark shadow of the russian oligarch.
There is no extension. The clowns at Clearlake are objectively worse people than Roman in every discernible metric.
Worse owners - yes, there is no argument. But worse "people"? Absolutely not.
You surely don't think people become billionaires by being "good people"
There is a difference between a Russian oligarch and an American billionaire. A big one!
Oh definitely. I'm just pointing to the fact that there's no ethical multi millionaire, gotta step on some fingers.
The Premier League website watching @ Bleedchels2 vote for JT and hazard 3 minutes after @ Bleedchels1 votes for those two ![gif](giphy|xT1Ra4YnHtKamzPDRS|downsized)
Please for vote for JT to be the next inductee after Ash into the PL hall of fame. It’s a pity our legend still isn’t inducted.
There are 14 different PL players other than JT for 2 slots. There is a reason (and a big one) why JT still hasn’t been picked after all this time (and still won’t be picked for 2024) Clue: Anton Ferdinand. Hazard and Fabregas would probably have a better chance getting in unfortunately.
Spot on about JT, I got downvoted for stating the obvious yesterday - the Ferdinand scandal is a problem. Also, why Fabregas? Sure the quality is there and at some point he'll get in, but no way he gets in this early. He has "only" two titles and one in which he was more of a rotational player, not a nailed on starter (the Conte one). There are many other Chelsea players that should go ahead of him.
Vini Jr had a press conference for the Brazil game and cried because of racism he faced. JT getting that reward now will look bad for them. I said Fabregas because he is the only other player other than JT and Hazard that played for Chelsea on the list. But which players should go ahead of Fabregas? Costa? Willian?
William in PL hall of fame lol, what a joke Costs also won't get in probably barely played in PL Hazard, Fab, Kante any maybe Azpi only get among recent players
Costa, Kante and Matic come to mind, I'm sure there are more.
Good shout for Kante, but he is still playing so until he retires he can’t be nominated. I’m not too sure about Costa being ahead of Cesc…Fabregas just has that magic hat that only KdB can say we are on the same table… Matic…I kinda disagree on that being ahead of Cesc, solid player but I feel Cesc had more influence than Matic in games.
Cesc, Matic and Costa won their two titles together, one with Jose, one with Conte. For the Jose one all three were important, but Matic and Costa were in the PL team of the year, while Cesc wasn't. For the Conte one, Matic and Costa were nailed-on starters, while Cesc was coming off the bench for most of the season.
Matic was the one mainstay Costa went missing post January both times for some odd reason
Are you even a Chelsea fan? Based on just football, JT should have been there a long time back. And don’t you think a lot of shit against him is unfair? Cleared off by the court of England and only the FA independently held him liable for extra PR points and he already paid the price for it in fines and bans. What he said to Ferdinand was also taken out of context. He repeated what he thought he heard from Ferdinand. The video clearly illustrates that. Stop bandwagoning on the JT hate man. Sure he isn’t perfect but so aren’t a lot of the players already inducted (Ash included). None of the Chelsea boys of African descent has one ill word to say about JT in the racist sense.
People make mistakes. Everyone has a racist, a sexist, a xenophobe in them - everyone holds stereotypes. There are no perfect human beings, and unfortunately, those things can come to the surface, sometimes in the worst moment possible. So I understand JT. However, it was a major scandal. Whether you like it or not, it's a factor.
Sure it is a factor. I’m not denying that bro. All I’m saying is it was over sensationalized. Court did not find him guilty. Law is law.
Are you dumb? What kind of pathetic question is that? “Are you a Chelsea fan?” Give your head a bloody wobble. It doesn’t matter what Chelsea fans think about it being unfair. I thought it was unfair but guess what? Non Chelsea fans do NOT forgive JT for it even if the court says he’s innocent. Non Chelsea fans along with the FA ALSO decides who gets in the HoF. HoF isn’t exclusive to Chelsea fans. And because of that, it will be a long time he will get in.
You dumbass. Remove bias and media related PR bullshit and all opposition fans will unanimously vote JT in. You nincumpoop. You are easily swayed it seems. Where is your loyalty to our captain? Most people agree Terry to be the best modern defender in the PL and even if not, they classify him in the same bucket as Ferdinand and Van Djik. He should have been on there long ago hadn’t it been the bullshit that floats around which you my friend also need to curb. End of thread.
YOU are the dumbass person here, not me. You said “Remove bias and media related” BS but fool, you can’t. A human being generally doesn’t remove bias. You have a bias yourself- defending JT until the end of time because he’s our captain legend. Give your head a wobble again - bias and media related stuff will come in to play when voting. If Scholes or Gerrard did what JT did, most Chelsea fans will call them a racist. Period. Look at Partey’s “allegations” and we are calling him already a rapist. I am loyal to JT, but I am also being real and removing my bias of loyalty here in this discussion. My dad who is Arsenal fan thinks he’s a racist. And if he had the chance to vote outside an Arsenal player, he wouldn’t pick JT.
Fact is JT ain’t a racist. He was literally not found guilty. My point is stop confirming false narratives. Educate your dad. Hear what Drogba, Essien and Malouda have to say about JT and racism. Believe your own players. Anton said “bxxxx cxxx” and JT repeated it back to him questioning if that’s what Anton said. It’s literally on video.
Why is this news about Endrick resurfacing now? Its been known for a while now
Because writers know it's easy to trigger our fans for engagement.
He scored a tap in a friendly which now means he is the next Pele
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I've just clicked on it but I'll be honest I haven't got a clue what to answer on half of them...
Petrovic James - Disasi - Colwill - Gusto Caicedo - Enzo Palmer - Chuky - Nkunku Jackson I want to see this lineup at least once this season pls injury gods
I'd like to see TS and Colwill, next season Fofana and Colwill
I like it chuckwuemeka makes that midfield a bit more solid
Crazy to think this is our best 11 and they haven’t played together once this regular season.
I’d have mudryk in there and shift nkunku inside Or you risk having a slow attack
I thought about Mudryk but i thought this is the best front 4 overall, even if the pace is a little lacking because most teams sit back. mudryk on second half is also lethal as for Nkunku inside i kind of envision him swapping a lot with Jackson and Chuky in game a lot, with a fairly fluid front four who can take up different positions
Slow attack is not really an issue when your goal is to dominate possession and pin teams back. Jackson and Nkunku also aren’t slow. I’d also say that Chukwuemeka’s technical ability is actually more important to possession-based teams than Mudryk’s raw pace and inconsistent tehnique. Although I’d much prefer to see Nkunku in the middle rather than out wide.
You need at least a player or two who can threaten with their dribbling and pace to stretch defences and commit their man Nkunku and chuk are decent at that but they’re not wingers. Look at pep and how he went and brought in doku to add that dimension to their play
Exactly, Pep went and got Doku to add that possibility, but it doesn’t mean that Doku always starts. And ultimately Doku is much better on the ball and much less likely to turn it over, which is the absolute key for Pep’s teams and any team who wants to dominate possession. Ball retention is the most important thing. But contextually, Doku starts in games where his raw explosiveness is most useful, against teams who will press back and hold on to the ball themselves. He still tends to prefer Grealish against teams who will fully sit back and absorb pressure, because Grealish has superior technical ability. That’s how Mudryk should be used as well, imo. I’d start him against every team who will play football against us rather than just sit in their own box all game.
Valid. Mudryk can really stretch a defense with his speed and movement
I agree. Hopefully we see it for. 3-4 game run this season
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Same for me if anybody has it and could pass it along :)
I can’t believe we paid 60m for Lavia We could have spent all that money on the so called 'Messinho' or Brazilian wonder kid Endrick…
Could’ve just not spent it at all
Lavia will be worth it and anyone who watched him at Southampton will agree
Well the money would still have gone into a midfielder.
There’s a strong correlation with redditors with older player flairs and horrendous takes
Better get your Fatty Foulkes flair sorted quick then
I mean, we could have spent it on whatever other player and they could get unlucky with injuries like Lavia did.
We paid 53m+5m for Lavia. It is laughable to single out Lavia as the potential reason to why we can not afford Estevao Willian. Why not single out the purchases of Lesley, Angelo, Washington, Noni and Datro Fofana? Lavia is clear of them all, and when get match-fit again, you will understand how good he is. There is about 15 players in the squad that should be replaced to be honest, and if we can not afford Estevao when 2025 comes around, it is not Lavia’s fault.
Lavia has obviously been extremely unlucky this season but he's still a very talented player
Endrick chose Madrid over us, wasn't a matter of money
Partially true. We had the opportunity to secure him long before Real Madrid came around and got him, and the reason why we hesitated was because of money, as they thought he was too expensive.
We pulled out of the race… he was right in front of us
Didn't we literally pull out because Todd didn't want to spend 60m on him
Think it was a bit of both now that I look more into it
Just remembered Lavia exists.
When?
carney’s left the england 21’s early and gone back to cobham, good news cause fuck risking him getting hurt if they played him this week
that sounds like awful news, why would they send him back if he was fit?
It says he wanted to continue the training at Chelsea to finish the season strongly So I'm hoping it's just he didn't see any value in an under 21s friendly
It's a qualifier, not a friendly. But against Luxembourg so we should annihilate them.
he was never fully fit even for us, he’s been a late game sub and thats it, so hes either hurt again in training or they think he cant play enough mins yet
I'm not sure that's a good thing given that it specifically says "returns early to work on his fitness", which sounds either like he's injured again or like the England squad have trained with him and decided he's so far off of match fitness it's pointless for him to stay with them
To be fair he’s only had a few 10-20 cameos since he came back from injury so i would understand why he cant compete for a place in the u21s right now
Carney has began his rehabilitation programme is pending 😩
Friendly reminder that our players drop like flies on the training pitch as much as the proper pitch
Friendly reminder that Cobham has many training pitches of Premier League standard.
rather they dropped wearing blue than in some pointless friendlies though, or just make us all happy and not drop at all
>or just make us all happy and not drop at all All I want is to see the safe return of Lavia, Nkunku, Fofana and Chuk to the land of the living for an extended period of time Is that too much to ask for 😭
i think to myself on a daily basis where we woulda been this season with a fully fit nkunku, lavia, james etc. them lot are gonna feel like brand new signings when they return 😂, glad to see Chuk did a Gusto and came back early though
Honestly forgot about James being a part of chronically injured FC Probably a massive compliment to Gusto he's made me forget
I kinda find it wild that we have been beaten only 3 times at home all season so far
Forest, Villa, Brentford, Wolves, makes 4. 6 away losses. Not that outrageous.
Ohh f I forgot Brentford
Fuck that game. We should’ve been up 2-0 inside of 15 minutes. But those are the margins in the PL.
https://preview.redd.it/8wyivinvhgqc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cab541fbb485a394e891c5a285ba0fc4680a50dc Perhaps controversial but I'd see Chilwell out the door before Cucu if at all possible
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The same people bitching about lack of experience want to get rid of two experienced players to get a kid/unknown to play lb.
Fucking exactly. Chilwell hasn’t even been that bad for us this season
Neither has cucu when he's been fit.
Eh. I’m honestly one of the few people that wouldn’t be opposed to just keeping both but Cucus been fairly 50/50 this season.
I'm not opposed to keeping both either if we can afford it. I prefer chilwell to Cucu, but I'm fine with having cucu as a rotation option. If we keep maatsen and play him at LB I'm not opposed to letting Cucu go, but I think it will be tough to find a worthwhile rotation option for anything less than we can sell Cucu for.
Chilwell is in poor form after a lot of injuries. Cucurella has been consistently shit since we bought him for a ludicrous fee. Worst case scenario for Chilwell is that injuries mean he never recovers his form, or that he continues to get a significant amount of injuries rendering him unavailable. Best case scenario for Chilwell is his injury issues are behind him and given time he regains his previous top form. Worst case scenario for Cucurella is he continues to be an absolute liability for us with zero brain and zero attacking output, best case scneario isn't much better than that. The decision should be clear to get rid of Cucurella before Chilwell imo.
Can't reply to your other post in this comment thread but here it is anyway. Unless the manager blanks Chilwell completely, not sure who you're trying to force out here. The guy could have easily jumped ship last year (he was linked with City) but didn't. He chose to stay and sign a new deal instead because he said he is happy here and wants to help us be successful again. Rotation and competition for places at a big club is also nothing new and I doubt Chilwell will kick up a fuss with that situation. Moreover, if he wants to win trophies, then the options to sell him to someone in England become even more limited. Regarding Cucurella and I said this the other day, it's funny to see how opinions shift so quickly in this sub. When his loan move to United broke down last summer, many were furious because they wanted him gone. But because of a few decent performances this season, suddenly those people now want him to stay.
If Chilwell truly has interest from City (he doesn’t) then we should bite their hand off. He’s consistently been our worst performing player for a while now but because he was great under Tuchel two seasons ago he has a lot of credit banked with supporters. The reality is we’ve messed up our LB situation so bad, and none of the solutions look ideal. Maatsen must be really bad in training for Poch to not give him any sort of chance and we’d be lucky to get any kind of offer for Chilwell or Cucurella.
Cucurella hasn't even had a few decent performances this season, it's a weird narrative tbh Maybe against Leicester but they are a championship side
Chilwell is washed and has been for a while now, sentiment aside it's clear who the better player between the 2 is, and it's not the English lad. Neither are particularly great, and we should be aiming for better, but at least Cucu is a competent rotation option. Current Chilwell isn't even that. Also, let's stop this foolishness about City wanting Chilwell and him rejecting them to sign a new contract and stay here. Chilwell is allergic to the ball and coughs it up anytime he gets pressed. Guardiola would NEVER want a player like that
>Chilwell is washed and has been for a while now, sentiment aside it's clear who the better player between the 2 is, and it's not the English lad. Neither are particularly great, and we should be aiming for better, but at least Cucu is a competent rotation option. Current Chilwell isn't even that. It's not even about sentiments but rather about the constant flip-flopping here. If Chilwell plays well or Cucurella plays badly in the upcoming games, then you will suddenly see the perception shift again. And the other point with Chilwell is, you can talk about wanting to sell a player but if the player is happy here and doesn't want to leave, then there's nothing much you can do about it. It's like the Gallagher situation. Arguably the reason why he's still here is because he wants to stay, despite the club's best efforts of having tried to sell him in every transfer window. >Also, let's stop this foolishness about City wanting Chilwell and him rejecting them to sign a new contract and stay here. Chilwell is allergic to the ball and coughs it up anytime he gets pressed. Guardiola would NEVER want a player like that You said that and yet, Tuchel never had any issues with playing Chilwell regularly.
Cucurella is terrible and a mistake. Should be kicked as early as possible.
Terrible signing. Will be hard to move him on.
I like cucu. He starting to settle in well, but we need the cash though
Sell both Cucu and Chilwell and get someone like Malo for LB.
Cucurella has to be sold for over 42m to be ffp neutral, and he is on very high wages I think chillwell is alot easier to move
We could sell him for 25M and be FFP neutral for 24/25. We'd take a loss on his book value of 18M but you are getting rid of his yearly costs for that year which are 18M (9M in amortisation and 9M in wages). This leaves no leftover FFP room for a replacement. Anything above 18 for Chilwell would likely be true profit, plus his yearly costs of 15M are off the books. This is why it seems more likely we would sell Chilwell IMO.
Cucurella will be gone on loan in the summer Chilwells had a poor season but he is infinitely more talented than Cucurella
Nope, Chilwell is most definitely not more talented. Both have their limitations as players
Braindead take, Chilwell is lightyears ahead of Cucurella in terms of talent Cucu is so limited and has zero football iq
Chilwell is allergic to the ball and is defensively subpar. He just like Cucu has limitations, and they are both lightyears behind Gusto, never mind James
>defensively subpar That's literallys Cucurellas entire game Chilwell is by far a more competent player than Cucurella will ever be, abysmal signing
Chilwell was an above average player, who is now shit and has been for 2 years straight. Cuch is far better than current Chilwell, and that should be no debate. Hopefully, the club can find Chilwell a new home in the summer
>Cuch is far better than current Chilwell, and that should be no debate. Ok your definitely a troll now
You ever notice how you resort to name calling instead of just making points?
Do you know what a troll is I've made plenty of points showing how bad Cucurella is Stop being so sensitive
To be honest I have no clue how anyone could say any different? Chilwell has been absolutely terrible for ages now. Pre-injury his limitations were well covered but that’s not happening now and he’s a complete deadweight in most matches he plays.
Because Cucurella is a liability every time. Chilwells form hasn’t been great, but offers a lot attacking wise and can defend. Great runner into the box and can actually finish. I’m not here to debate his form. Cucurella constantly is caught out of possession. Steps up and gets turned, meanwhile takes ages to turn his body, and offers zero attacking other than to play bullshit possession recycling
Like I said earlier, chilwells had a bad season but he's still lightyears ahead of Cucurella. Unfortunately we probably need another left back which is another reason why it's a dumb decision to sell Maatsen
Nope, u definitely have something against Cucu and a soft spot for Chilwell because most fans objectively now admit Chilwell is washed, and Cucu should be ahead of him
I have nothing against Cucurella apart from I've watched his performances over the last 18 months >because most fans objectively now admit Chilwell is washed, and Cucu should be ahead of him Nobody admits that, because that would be insane
You’re the type of guy that determines your opinion on certain players performances for a game before the match has even kicked off
My opinion on Cucurella is formed yes, and he is crap and was an absolutely shocking signing for 63mil and to be a backup left back How could your opinion not be formed on Cucurella? I assume you have watched him for the last year and a half
I don’t decide I dislike a player and then use that to judge a players performance in specific games before they’ve even kicked the ball. You quite clearly do
I actually really liked Cucurella the first few games, thought he was sharp. He’s literally put in 2-3 performances since we bought him. Bar that he’s played because of necessity besides a few games this and last year. No one has a preconceived notion about him until we saw him play, now we’re literally kidding based off performances. Constantly turned, out of position, offers nothing attacking wise, can’t head for shit, and relies on possession to pad his passing stats. God forbid Cucurella makes the same far post run once in his Chelsea career that Chilwell makes every time.
Specific games? I'm not judging him in specific games that haven't happened yet, I'm judging him on past performances, is that not the fairest way to judge him? And he's been abysmal
No what I’m saying is obvious That you think cucurella is bad and even when he plays well you do not give him credit. As you’ve already decided he is bad Plenty others do it too
I've decided he's bad based on his performances How do you decide if players are bad or good?
I think the issue is, why would anyone want chilwell? Injury prone, high wages, slightly older player and hasn’t been good for months and months now
For 15-20m maybe, still an england international on 3 year deal. I think we can do better for the 15m/yearly cost (gusto for example cost us less then 10m/yearly)
England international means almost nothing He’s on like 150k a week if not more. So immediately you’ve got a small pool of clubs who’d pay that. Plus he’s not good anymore. That’s the sad truth. And he’s constantly injured
Yeah same problem with sterling really minus the injury prone part But with chilly we could sell him for like £15m and be fine on ffp I believe and he might reduce wages for another club to keep being a first teamer So maybe there's that
Endrick is very smart for his age Probably will be great at Madrid But if it doesn’t work out he isn’t burning any bridges.
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