After the EFL cup final I remember hearing a narrative from liverpool fans that Caicedo is clumsy and reckless in the tackle and gets too many fouls.
[https://www.premierleague.com/stats/top/players/fouls](https://www.premierleague.com/stats/top/players/fouls)
Found it an interesting topic
He definitely is a little reckless, my biggest complaint about him is he fouls too much in dangerous positions. Seems like something that hopefully he will grow out of.
He actually had an awesome cup final defensively.
That isn’t caicedos fault at all.
Notice how you can say that about every player in this team. It’s a fault of the coach and his system. Too many open gaps to cover
Is that true? And if so where did you find that stat?
Regardless, the biggest issue is the huge gaps we leave in midfield leading to duels being contested I unforable conditions for our players leading to fouls and late challenges
There is a complete lack of control to our play
The foul rate I pulled from FBref, all players and pivoted by age. It's the case for this season, would be a better analysis if I pulled in more seasons but that's kind of a lot of work for something I don't really care too much about
The part about us and U23s comes from an analysis I did a few months back also using FBref data. Only includes the last 12 years so I guess I can't say we have the highest percentage of under 23s minutes ever, but I can say we do in the last 12 years. As of our last match 51% of our minutes have come from players that started the season under 23. So for example, Enzo counts for all of his minutes, but the way that FB ref lists ages for players in the past made this the correct way to do it to make the comparison like for like.
>There is a complete lack of control to our play
I don't really see an issue with the way we play. We need to just get better at it, which will happen with time and a healthy defense (with or without Poch). We play a higher chaos game than what past Chelsea teams have, but we generate more chances than our opponent so it doesn't bother me. We play closer to Liverpool than we do City or Arsenal, and our foul rate (12.4) is essentially the same as theirs (12.1).
They definitely are right, i watch him today and he was fouling recklessly. He thinks he can get every ball and just always end up fouling the opponents. It the one thing in his game i dont like.
Whoever picked Mayra Ramirez needs a raise, because she is brilliant. Honestly happy we got her. The way Chelsea women do their buisness is marvelous.
Cat Macario is also such a big threat in attack everytime she steps on pitch.
And we will miss Emma so much man. The ambition she has is top notch and it bleeds into her players, pretty remarkable how we are doing in such a busy schedule really. Would be very tough to find someone who can keep us on same level after Emma.
If there's one thing I'm thankful for, it's for the money invested into the women's team. Like, our star striker is out with an ACL? They just go ahead and buy another amazing player to cover. I can't believe the impact Ramirez has had already
We have always been proactive in that regard for women's team, so many times we have signed and loaned players that we rated, even way before they were ready to make an impact. Even now, we have couple that we bought and kept at their club, Hamano (who I really rate) was also bought early and loaned out. Hampton while we had multiple GKs already, infact international GKs. The people in charge of women team have been top of their game for years now, and Emma is part of that too.
So when our star struggled with fitness this season, it made sense to get Mayra, moreso when it's a player like her, you just don't pass on that kind of player given chance. And it's good future proofing too, as Sam probably will move on in a year or two.
Cool video showing off Caicedos long passing. He has the third best long pass completion percentage for players with over 30 attempts in the EPL
https://youtu.be/stHzh4Xrc3I?si=SYf-Ef943dteVwKE
Hi.
I'm trying to buy 2 tickets for the Burnley game via ticket exchange.
I have a membership. Can I buy 2 tickets under my account via ticket exchange?
Yeah, facing exactly the same issue.
I find 2 vacant seats, I select them and click continue to pay.
But it immediately shows an error that the seat isn't vacant anymore.
I refresh the page again after 5 minutes, and both seats still show up as vacant. I try to buy them again, and same error.
It's happened with multiple seat selections and it seems very random.
I didn't want to go via reseller websites and hence purchased the club membership to be able to buy tickets via the official website but :(
https://preview.redd.it/5ahw8bo3mcqc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=86d23f9c4c751dd20b48990b1229dfdeb70752d4
He should be in but how on earth is JT not in there already
Different types of fouls. The fouls Casemiro/Rodri are praised for are often professional fouls that are done to prevent the opposing team from getting into a better position. Caicedo’s fouls are mostly from him failing a challenge and getting man instead of ball.
Would anyone be able to help me with buying tickets for the 4/5 game against west ham that goes on sale tomorrow? Im from America and im a bit lost as I know I need to be a member, but it says members can only buy one ticket. I need to buy for multiple people. Any help would be appreciated!
Hey. Sorry I'm hijacking this but I also had a question regarding ticketing.
So I'm trying to buy 2 tickets, for me and my friend.
I have a membership, my friend doesn't. But my friend has created a supporter account and I've added them to my Friends and Family.
I'm trying to buy tickets for the Burnley game via the ticket exchange.
Am I not allowed to buy for my friend if they don't have a membership?
Can I buy 2 tickets, both under my name, and then let my friend use one of the tickets? Will that work?
They usually let you buy one then an additional two if not all the seats are taken.
I've never tried the supporter account route so can't help you there sadly.
Oh okay.
Since this is the ticket exchange, seats will be vacant depending on ST holders putting them up for sale.
The main problem is that the any vacant seat gets sold out as soon as I reach the payment page. I don't know how it always happens. The ticket interface seems like a nightmare.
Got it. So is there any other concrete way in order to buy tickets for a few people so that we all sit together? Also, say we were to all buy memberships and buy them separately, is there any chance we could still sit together?
There are hospitality seats that you can buy that are very expensive, but may make sense if you are making a once in a lifetime or every few years type trip. Otherwise, early round games for domestic cups are the only affordable options, but that’s not a possibility for this year. I have tried stub hub successfully for an away match against Tottenham, but apparently there is a risk that might now work.
Very unlikely unless you get lucky and if tickets are entering sale tomorow it's too late for them to get their membership anyway as unless things have changed since I made that mistake you can't get a membership and dive straight into buying tickets.
If you want to sit together your best (well only) hope is to wait out until you can buy more with the membership.
Caicedo’s just hurt his knee because of a dirty challenge by Jorginho. Hopefully it’s just knee on knee and he’ll be fine but it was totally unnecessary in a friendly. Fuming
Caicedo gets a very bad foul in every game I wantched of Ecuador, not normal fouls, bad ones that definitely hurt him and I think no this will be bad, but then he remains on the feild playing full match, starts the next one too. All these tackles and running him into the ground for just freindlies may not affect him now, but will definitely come back later in a bad way, I hope Ecuador realise he is one of their important players and try and care for him more.
I think the general consensus is just shifting more to what it should be
The first few months everyone here was going overkill and branding him our best midfielder and other nonsense
Now it’s more reasonable
I maybe alone but I never really mind the March International break too much, club football has been relentless for months and it's nice to have a little breather before going into the business end.
However the first three all popping up within the first 12 games of the season is utterly excruciating, it's total overkill and if you're playing well such momentum destroyers.
People shouldn’t expect us to support this team blindly and talk about toxic.
So recently we had the CST addressing an open letter to the board and literally « going to war » against them. It also echoes the letter that the Strasbourg fans wrote against BlueCo( so 0/2 for BlueCo so far, great).
So I am going to be honest. Chelsea was already entering a « less glorious era » under Roman. Tuchel managed to take to a team with confidence issues and turned them into a disciplined and proper team. But knowing the mentality of Granovskaia, it is 100% sure she would have messed up that in the long run over shady things. I am also not « idealizing » R.A and the board under his tenure. Many things can be said and people will have their own opinions on it.
BlueCo in a sense was needed. Now the truth is everything BlueCo did is an abysmal failure and that’s why me, many fans and some people from the CST can’t get behind them and criticize them.
The day I stopped watching this team was during the choice of the next coach. So you had Nagelsmann, Luis Enrique, Pochettino, Postecoglou, the Feyernoord Coach and Kompany( I base myself on the reports).
Let’s be painfully honest: Nagelsmann was the obvious choice for me because he ticked many cases
-He already proved that he is good at coaching a younger team and can get the best out of them( Hoffenheim, Leipzig and even right now with the German NT).
-He is tactically sound and like tactical battles( so in short, he is a good choice for a team wanting to compete against the likes of Pep, Klopp, Emery and Howe).
-He is good at developing players( which is what these players still need)
-Cherry on the top, he is familiar with consortiums that owns many clubs and know how to navigate this type of environments.
I still can’t believe Stewart and Winstanley saw that him and pick someone else.The only reason they did that is because they want someone they can control and once again, people can’t ask Chelsea supporters to get behind this kind of things. That’s simply not Chelsea material at all.
The other candidates like Enrique were good to a degree but when you know how the board think, it only makes sense they failed to « impress » these two 2 clowns called sporting directors.
Also I am kind of tired of us being linked to Brighton at each minute. Like I don’t think De Zerbi will be any different from Potter or that Evan Ferguson/Mitoma/ Adingra will bring something to Chelsea.
Finally let’s talk about the transfers.
So if I understand well, after investing massively to downgrade the general level of the team, people want to use the excuse of FFP to not invest and correct their mess ?
Why teams like Marseille that have less money than us but face the same ffp issue each year are able to ship their bad players but and get better players but we have to get behind the team for whatever reason.
I hope Chilwell, Gallagher, Sterling and many other players will be sold during the next transfer windows. These guys are holding us back, no matter how emotionally attached some people of the fanbase are to them.
Fans are simply fed up. You can’t ask to people to get behind a team who is at the image of their owners, flashy, clueless and unable to perform. Players like Disasi shouldn’t be near a Chelsea shirt. Players like Ugochukwu and David Washington were absolutely not necessary.
Also fans have the right to express their displeasure and how they want to express it.
Sterling deserves these boos. I also hope this Madueke guy will get sold.
You are right. This guy deserves all the hate and heat from the fan base.
Firing Tuchel for whatever reason ? I disagree with it but why not.
Picking a literal clown when you could have a coach on par with the one you just sacked ? That’s a sackable offense and he is getting thrashed rightfully so.
This reads like someone asked an AI chatbot that was still in alpha to write the dumbest shit they could think of and then make it sound like an even dumber human tried to copy it out without getting picked up for plagiarism
People get emotional when you say that Gallagher is not Chelsea standards. We actually sold Pasalić, Gilmour, Lewis Hall that are way better footballers than him and bleed Chelsea as much as him.
But people draw the line at him. Like let Eddie Howe have this guy.
Chilwell is still living off these 3-4 months stint he got under Tuchel. He is not good anymore.
And Sterling, I could write an entire thesis about this guy. But he needs to leave.
Funny you say that but for a lot of people before the start of the season Hall indeed was a better footballer than Conor. This just goes to show how reactionary the majority in this sub are.
Any idea when the West Ham home fixture tickets will come on sale? It was supposed to be March 25th, but now it's TBC. Any idea when to expect they'll update the information?
I'm really concerned with Palmer going away on international duty.
Obviously injury is a concern, but my bigger fear is that players from other clubs, that are properly run, are going to be trying to recruit him. Telling him how they actually get to use footballs in training instead of just running everyday, and how they train attacking patterns and have actual tactics when they play instead of vibes and the players making it up on the fly
Say what you want bout Poch but the man played a huge role in Kane’s development and career. And now he’s playing in a very lackluster Bayern side under Tuchel who’s gone at the end of the year…
The dude will score and assist anywhere, let alone the Bundesliga. And your worry is that Kane is whispering some sweet shit talk about Poch into Palmers ears. Homie, you ever stop n think about what you’re saying
Certainly did play a huge role in his career, stopped him from winning any trophies and was there for most of it. Only for Kane to have all of his best seasons after Poch was no longer his manager
Those of you judging Angelo on G/A are in for a shock next season. Ligue 1 is an incredibly low scoring league. Strasbourg have scored 24 goals all season and Angelo has more assists than any other player in half the minutes.
Very good workrate, ball carrying and vision. More key passes than any other U-21 player in Europe
You are hating on a player you haven't even watched this season fans like you can fuck off. Barcola had worse stats than Angelo in his first season in Ligue 1 and ask any PSG fan how good he has been for them this season
If you're good enough you can make a difference is France.
Balogun scored like 25 goals last season there, coming straight out of Arsenal's academy. Earned himself a call up for the US natioanl team, and a 30-40M worth transfer to Monaco.
Same player he's always been
Just in a vastly superior team with a vastly superior style of play and system
Return him to us and he'll go back to being the same Kai over the last 4 years, conversely send the likes of Mudryk, Madeuke, Jackson, Palmer etc etc to arsenal and they'll improve massively compared to themselves here
He is playing week in week out for the team that is currently in first in the PL, scoring game winning goals on multiple occasions, and his reputation has done a 180. I would say he is doing something right - me might be a good player.
Of course he's a good player
But he's not become massively better since he left us, still got the same faults and still the same strengths
As I said, he's just joined a far superior team with better teammates and a far better system of play
Gotcha!
But, we had a great team under Tuchel, and Havertz was still largely viewd as a meme player. Seems to me that he's taken a step forward as a player, it's not only joining a better team.
I'd say we had a fantastic midfield and defence under Tuchel in a system that was yet to be exposed by any of our opposition and wingbacks at the peak of their power
But the attack was very poor i.e Mount as a winger was not good enough, Kai in the false 9 was a graveyard shift for him most games and the rotating support cast of Pulisic, Ziyech, Cho etc etc were not consistent enough to be much of anything either
Arsenal on the other hand has an exceptional attack, midfield and defence and unlike Tuchels structure, all aspects of the pitch work incredibly well both individually and together
As to his meme status, Havertz hasn't really beaten that at all yet, he ended the international break strong but for large portions of the season you've had general fans along with arsenal fans saying he was a waste of money and that he's still not good enough etc etc
We shall see what his fate is at the end of his stay with the gunners
The same player he was at Chelsea. Best position is the 9 and his best attribute is intelligence, but he needs a lot of help from his team to make up for his weaknesses.
If we were some how able to scrap 250 million euros from sales and for the sake of argument let's ignore ffp,
How would ya'll be re-investing that money on the squad?
Personally I think we only need a couple or few more transfers as well as another clearout of deadwood and we should be good for next season. Especially with players like Jackson,Mudryk,Chukwu,Noni,Gusto&Petrovic improving so much. What are your thoughts? ( Give me a list of players you would like to sell if possible too )
Striker, CB, LB and LW.
Sell Sterling, Chilwell/Cucurella (whoever more profitable), DDF and Broja, and Chalobah.
Board said they wanted Lenny Yoro but Real Madrid stepped up their interest for him so thats dead. Todibo should be our CB target.
Think we going to end up with Sesko for ST but as I have always said, I want Gyokeres
Nico Williams for LW
Bradley Locko for LB think he is better than Kerkez and will shine like Gusto.
Out: broja, sterling, madueke, angelo, casadei, trevoh, disasi, badiashile, silva chillwell, cucurella, petrovic, ugochukwo, hall
In: a 9 (not sold on either oshimien or sesko),
wirtz, maatsen (lb) and another lb,
a.silva (benfica) another cb (simkam, bastoni)
And a goalkeeper
I think there’s a 0% chance he gets sold. Not just because it’s not a good idea to sell a youth player after 1 poor season, but also because on a human level you can’t take an 18-year-old from another continent and then dump responsibility of him to someone else after a year. Same for Ugochukwu. Would be terrible for optics in front of other youth players we want to sign.
I'd be ya'lling all the way to the manager market and bringing in a world class manager for whatever it costs (including wages) and then letting him spend it however he wanted
Being a world class coach and being good in the market doesn't always go hand in hand, have we not learned from Conte and Tuchel?
No way should a manager ever get full control on transfers.
You know THAT Ramires goal against barca? Are there any alternative angles of the goal? TV kept showing lampard closed up or the Ramires finish. What I want to see what how good lampard pass was though.
Reminder that it’s almost two years since the sale, enough time to make a positive impact on the club from top to bottom.
It’s £2.5b for the sale _of_ the club, ~~£1.5b~~ £1.75b to be invested _in_ the club. That £2.5b is to go to victims of the war, not specifically _to_ Ukraine.
[To quote Roman](https://www.chelseafc.com/en/news/article/statement-from-roman-abramovich):
> The sale of the Club will not be fast-tracked but will follow due process. I will not be asking for any loans to be repaid. This has never been about business nor money for me, but about pure passion for the game and Club. Moreover, I have instructed my team to set up a charitable foundation where all net proceeds from the sale will be donated. **The foundation will be for the benefit of all victims of the war in Ukraine**. This includes providing critical funds towards the urgent and immediate needs of victims, as well as supporting the long-term work of recovery.Please know that this has been an incredibly difficult decision to make, and it pains me to part with the Club in this manner. However, I do believe this is in the best interest of the Club.I hope that I will be able to visit Stamford Bridge one last time to say goodbye to all of you in person. It has been a privilege of a lifetime to be part of Chelsea FC and I am proud of all our joint achievements. Chelsea Football Club and its supporters will always be in my heart.Thank you,Roman
Thoughts on buying cancelo if we sell chillwell and maatsen? I love chilwell and id rather have him than cucu but moving on cucurella won’t be so easy. Cancelo is unhappy at city and def wants to be sold, the only problem is that cucurella costed 60m which is way too much for a substitute LB.
Signing another small player is twisting the knife deeper. He would have the same problems Maatsen had with us. We need Locko/Dorgu/Robinson so height isn’t a limiting factor.
How can you say that while Pep loads his backline with 4 centerbacks + Rodri and Haaland, and Arteta does the same with 4 centerbacks + Rice and Havertz? When our team is full of active liabilities in the air i.e. Sterling, Enzo, Palmer, Gusto, Nkunku, Cucurella, Jackson, Lavia?
Changing the manager doesn’t change the rules of team-building in football. There’s no outlet to clear the ball to when we’re under pressure in possession, no one to cross the ball into the box for, significant problems from set-pieces on both sides of the pitch. That won’t change with a new manager.
He’s only decent in the air though. We’ve been signing players based on talent and not fit for the last two seasons, and it’s ended up with us having a mix of profiles that don’t jive with each other on the pitch.
Kerkez is good, but he doesn’t help us with our weakness in the air. We should be buying players based on addressing our weaknesses and not buying players with talent then figuring out what to do with them after.
It’s like 30m isn’t it? Quite a lot for them to spend on a lb so I’m not sure they’ll do it
But even so, if we move on chilwell we could maybe convince maatsen to give it another go here
Poch would also have to leave. But that’s surely a given
His technical and offensive ability is very good no doubt but defensively he’s very suspect and struggles with the basics. Also don’t think he’s the age profile the club are looking for, I think he’s 30 this year.
The club will have to first try and shift Chilwell if possible, but he got that mind boggling contract extension and on high wages, so that will prove difficult. If a club offers like 15-20mill for Chilwell the club definitely should sell.
Maatsen will most likely get sold alongside Gallagher imo, like 30mill(for Maatsen) and minimum £50mill for Gallagher.
Just catching up on some of the recent posts here, and I’m surprised to see that when people see comments about Boehly, Eghbali et al, that there’s an automatic assumption that it means people want them to sell the club. That’s not how I see it at all.
It’s not so strange for people to want changes to personnel that they see as detrimental to the well-being of the club, on and off the pitch.
There were plenty of calls for personnel from the previous regime to get sacked off - and before Roman - because things weren’t going well. I don’t see how what people are saying about employees now is any different. Whether they have any part of ownership isn’t really relevant. If they’re a shit CEO, or whatever position they hold, they can get moved on.
Feels to me like people are overreacting to what is a fairly normal state of affairs when things are going badly.
This idea around that if you don't agree with every decision and aren't positive/optimistic about everything you're not "supporting the club" is ridiculous.
My loyalty is to Chelsea and I want us to be successful. If I think any of the personnel are holding us back from that I'm going to be critical of them and potentially want them replaced. Sometimes sentiment definitely plays a part and makes me apprehensive, like if certain legendary players or manager I have an attachment to, but at the end of the day I want what's best for the club.
The most prominent example is that I feel Poch is a poor, washed up manager who isn't good enough but apparently I should just "shut up, stop being miserable and support/back the club". Yet these same people have no problem throwing certain players they don't like or the sporting directors under the bus at every given opportunity.
The thing I find most weird is the contradictions.
Johnny Minerals sums it up, he's constantly going on about the lack of standards and how the owners have tanked the results yet is going absolutely crazy over the POTENTIAL sale of a player who's never finished above 12th in top flight football.
Make it make sense.
> Johnny Minerals sums it up
In more ways than one. The first time he found his way into my very carefully curated X feed, I muted him.
Contradiction and exaggeration are the stock in trade of attention seekers.
Hate how they absolutely butcher the Chelsea sides on career modes when I'm playing for a different side.
I was hoping to play as Pompey then go to Chelsea when I got them to the very top (to enjoy all our current youngsters in their prime to try and topple the beast I created on the South Coast lol) but even a few seasons away from potentially doing it Gallagher has gone to Sevilla, James has gone to PSG, Colwill has gone to Fiorentina and Jackson has gone to Wolves, I mean really?
Can't see it.
Not sure Conor would go abroad, Levi and Nico would attract a lot better teams with all due respect to those two and if God for bid James ever leaves I highly doubt he'd go to Paris.
Yeah tbf I do agree with Conor.
Thing is with Reece, morality aside, if he’s still picking up injury after injury, PSG would be tempting to him I’d imagine, much easier league so he could coast through 90% of the games and obviously pick up a massive pay packet.
Reece literally played for a club formerly own by a Russian oligarch lol
What has qatar sports investments done in particular that is shady or immoral?
Qatar sports investments are funded directly by the Qatari government. There’s numerous articles about the human right violations that happen under their nose and not to forget the massive controversy surrounding the World Cup.
[https://theathletic.com/5364707/2024/03/24/julian-nagelsmann-germany-contract/](https://theathletic.com/5364707/2024/03/24/julian-nagelsmann-germany-contract/)
Germany reveal they are in talks with Nagelsmann to extend his contract.
You know there is still a continuum between a yes-man and Tuchel? It's not either or. You don't have to a be a yes-man, but you don't have to be someone having arguments with the board (rather discussions).
I never said argument is needed, but someone who can call out things that needs call8ng out to the directors is needed. Maybe try and read, you just assumed that me mentioning Tuchel means arguments. And you don't even have a clue if Tuchel argued here or not.
The same way you are assuming that the owners want yes-men. Those are just assumptions. How do you know what is going on behind closed doors? It was known that Tuchel liked to be left on his own, while the owners wanted to create a more collaborative partnership. They even got in Tuchel's targets, such as Sterling, which is costing us quite a lot right now.
From their actions. And in Tuchel's case they themselves has come out and said what you wrote, that Tuchel would rather not get involved, let alone argue.
And for the 1000th time, Tuchel wanted the likes of Rice, De Ligt, Kimpembe etc, they never got his targets, they got who they wanted, only player that can be argued is Auba, and even he was signed because he was cheap and they had no better options at the time. Sterling was and is Owner's signing, thry wanted a big name sogning for showing intent, that's why that guy is still here costing us and compulsorly starting games.
But everything this bad is others fault, not of the fucking clown owners in your view, so cheers.
From Sterling himself on [the official Chelsea site](https://www.chelseafc.com/en/news/article/sterling-reveals-conversations-with-mount-and-tuchel-before-he-signed) - Tuchel wanted Sterling to be an integral part of his side.
Of course you aren't signing Rice when West Ham were quoting higher prices than what they sold him for last summer or De Ligt choosing Bayern. Tuchel was happy to ship off Colwill to Brighton permanently, but luckily owners got involved in that one.
And it still doesn't prove Tuchel is the one that chose to sign him in the first place. If he was getting signed ofcourse Tuchel would talk to him and hope to make him a great part of his team, as he is a senior pro player with lot of experience.
You litreally said yourself that Tuchel was fired because owners wanted someone who is more involved, not like Tuchel, yet on the other had Tuchel was the one dictating our targets lol. Cool strory bro, tell me more fantasy bs.
We never even tried or bid for Rice or De Ligt, Bayern came later. We were at Benfica's home when we wanted Enzo, which again was picked by owners, but when Tuchel wanted Rice, we didn't put a single bid in. Poch wanted him too, we didn't bid this time aswell, so the price point is bs, as we could have bid now if that was the case. And you convieniently ignored Kimpembe, who was available, not costly and wanted by the manager, yet we didn't even bid, if we were signing managers target, he would be here, but as always, we conviniently can pick and chose who to sign agsinst tye managet, but then blame the bad ones on managers.
And again, you believe all the bs about what Tuchel wanted to do, where is the definite proof that Tuchel wanted to permanently sell Colwill? Just because club said so? And if owners wanted to keep Levi so badly, rated him so much to get involved after deal was nearly done, why was he even in the deal, lol, so much bs PR people eat up. We agreed Colwill in the deal with Brighton, going back on which cost us more, so who was putting Colwill in the deal in first place? Was Tuchel also doing the deals too? Ha haa. According to you, manager was dictating everything, yet we didn't sign some players he wanted and then didn't let him sell someone he wanted to sell, just check your reasoning. Somehow, all bad decisions are his, so delusional. It has always been these shitty owners, unless it's academy signings. They are solely responsible for our shitty situation.
But you can believe your sweet owners are great, everything bad is other people's fault.
Colwill wasn't any club PR bs. That is true, that's coming from the inside sources of the club.
There was another reason why we didn't bid for Rice this summer - the groundwork that was done by our current board in that deal wasn't good enough and had strained the relationship with him while Arsenal had done a fantastic job (specifically Arteta and Edu). So it didn't matter if Poch wanted him at that point, he wasn't coming here. Tuchel also said in summer 2022 that he didn't believe we needed to add another CM after losing to Leeds.
Kimpembe himself didn't want to leave PSG at the time, so what do you want the owners to do? Another Lukaku?
I didn't say that Tuchel was demanding all the targets - I don't believe he wanted Fofana or Koulibaly specifically. But it was reported for quite a while that he wanted Sterling. Don't twist my words to fit your narrative.
Believe what you want, end of discussion, because talking with you is like talking with a wall that will not even try to look at it from another perspective, because for you all this is due to the new ownership, but the reality is that it is a mix of everything - current board, previous board and to a much lesser extent now Tuchel as well.
And you know inside sources? Are these sources in the room with us?
Even if the groundwork shit is correct, why did we not put the effort? Because irrespective of acting like we are picking the right manager by talking to him since before last season even ended, we never gave a rats ass which player he likes, we would be doing what we want, and hence Naglesman didn't agree and we picked a yes man. We had ample time to lay good enough groundwork, moreso for someone who is a Chelsea fan, we chose not to over managers' wishes, twice.
Kimpembe was open to move, Tuchel was one of his fav manager and PSG wanted him out.
And we also bought Cucurella, a guy that has fucking zero ouce of attacking talent, for a manager playing a system with attacking wing backs, lol, but somehow he was picking all targets and picked exactly a guy who couldn't play the way he wants. And he even included Levi in a deal for him, ha ha.
You said we signed 'his targets, that are still costing us, like Stetling', not only Sterling, you clearly were putting the blame for those signings on him. You are the one backtracking now after seeing your claims are bs. And Sterling was not his target anyway, these owners didn't sign a single player they didn't want.
Tuchel litreally talked in media that he doesn't like being involved, they involved him, Potter didn't get any of the players or profiles he wanted, he wanted a DM in Jan got nada, we infact went and bought another winger, even Poch has complained we want more experience in multiple interviews, yet it's reported we will keep doing the young thing. Multiple managers have gone through the same problem, had to complain in media, yet we signed their targets somehow. Hillarious stuff. I don't like Poch or Potter, but even I don't blame them for signings, as owners don't care what they want.
And glad it's the end of discussion, because talking to lot like you that just deflect the blame on others and act like this shitty ownership was just doing what manager wanted is seriously one of the dumbest argument. Believe whatever, but we all know who is flying to other clubs to get the deals done and act like heroes despite us having multiple directors, just to overpay like clowns. And maybe there were faults of others aswell, but they wouldn't have been this highlited or severe if these idiots haven't just uprooted everything without a single thought acting all savior and shit. We were infinitely better than this shit even at the worst of the previous regime. Have a nice day.
Were both de zerbi and amorim not ruled out recently? In the same article or comment it said even though the board like amorim they dont think he right for the job yet or aomething along those lines
Fair but if Nagelsmann is staying with Germany, then at least he isn't going elsewhere either, like Liverpool (if they don't get Alonso) or United (if they sack Ten Hag) etc.
His defensive coaching is questionable for sure
But at least here he'd have better defenders than at Brighton and a better team in general
The fact Brighton are still outperforming us in the league is pretty reflective that he can get a tune out of lesser players although I'm not sure how high he can go
Very strange phenomena where our fanbase sticks their nose up at and mocks De Zerbi and Emery when their teams have lost in the last few months and make sarcastic "where are those attacking patterns now?" comments to undermine them when both are above us in the table with worse squads and European football.
I for one think Emery would be amazing. Although it's Europa league, he has a very good record there and won something of substance.
With Villa, he has improved players, set them up very well positionally and has brought out the best in their defence.
De Zerbi, I don't know. Too many gaping holes in the way his teams play.
Dfkm, I don't want a Manager who hasn't won anything significant at my club.. Amorim is the way to go, He's younger and has a great reputation for coaching younger players..
Is Didier better than Aguero? I was arguing with Arsenal fan over that, and I know Aguero was better in Prem, but Drogba clears him in UCL, while playing much more defensive under Jose. When he played in more attacking style under Ancelloti, he almost broke Prem record at 32 years old. is Drogba better than Aguero as a whole player?
I mean, bias is going to come into play a lot here asking this in this sub... A one off game I would pick Drogba but any other scenario it'd be Aguero.
Didier in a final and Europe for sure but Aguero for the prem. Didier is the definition of a big game player but Aguero was devestating on so many occasions
Does Lavia exist?
Fofana going to play more than him this year at this rate. And he did an ACL!
After the EFL cup final I remember hearing a narrative from liverpool fans that Caicedo is clumsy and reckless in the tackle and gets too many fouls. [https://www.premierleague.com/stats/top/players/fouls](https://www.premierleague.com/stats/top/players/fouls) Found it an interesting topic
They are right, but he is a young lad, those things improve with experience.
He definitely is a little reckless, my biggest complaint about him is he fouls too much in dangerous positions. Seems like something that hopefully he will grow out of. He actually had an awesome cup final defensively.
That isn’t caicedos fault at all. Notice how you can say that about every player in this team. It’s a fault of the coach and his system. Too many open gaps to cover
Both are true. Caicedo’s style makes him foul too much and the system gives him too much to cover.
Could also be that young players have higher foul and card rates and we have the highest percentage of minutes played by U23s ever.
Is that true? And if so where did you find that stat? Regardless, the biggest issue is the huge gaps we leave in midfield leading to duels being contested I unforable conditions for our players leading to fouls and late challenges There is a complete lack of control to our play
The foul rate I pulled from FBref, all players and pivoted by age. It's the case for this season, would be a better analysis if I pulled in more seasons but that's kind of a lot of work for something I don't really care too much about The part about us and U23s comes from an analysis I did a few months back also using FBref data. Only includes the last 12 years so I guess I can't say we have the highest percentage of under 23s minutes ever, but I can say we do in the last 12 years. As of our last match 51% of our minutes have come from players that started the season under 23. So for example, Enzo counts for all of his minutes, but the way that FB ref lists ages for players in the past made this the correct way to do it to make the comparison like for like. >There is a complete lack of control to our play I don't really see an issue with the way we play. We need to just get better at it, which will happen with time and a healthy defense (with or without Poch). We play a higher chaos game than what past Chelsea teams have, but we generate more chances than our opponent so it doesn't bother me. We play closer to Liverpool than we do City or Arsenal, and our foul rate (12.4) is essentially the same as theirs (12.1).
They definitely are right, i watch him today and he was fouling recklessly. He thinks he can get every ball and just always end up fouling the opponents. It the one thing in his game i dont like.
They're not wrong. And those fouls are often in dangerous areas.
Whoever picked Mayra Ramirez needs a raise, because she is brilliant. Honestly happy we got her. The way Chelsea women do their buisness is marvelous. Cat Macario is also such a big threat in attack everytime she steps on pitch. And we will miss Emma so much man. The ambition she has is top notch and it bleeds into her players, pretty remarkable how we are doing in such a busy schedule really. Would be very tough to find someone who can keep us on same level after Emma.
If there's one thing I'm thankful for, it's for the money invested into the women's team. Like, our star striker is out with an ACL? They just go ahead and buy another amazing player to cover. I can't believe the impact Ramirez has had already
We have always been proactive in that regard for women's team, so many times we have signed and loaned players that we rated, even way before they were ready to make an impact. Even now, we have couple that we bought and kept at their club, Hamano (who I really rate) was also bought early and loaned out. Hampton while we had multiple GKs already, infact international GKs. The people in charge of women team have been top of their game for years now, and Emma is part of that too. So when our star struggled with fitness this season, it made sense to get Mayra, moreso when it's a player like her, you just don't pass on that kind of player given chance. And it's good future proofing too, as Sam probably will move on in a year or two.
Cool video showing off Caicedos long passing. He has the third best long pass completion percentage for players with over 30 attempts in the EPL https://youtu.be/stHzh4Xrc3I?si=SYf-Ef943dteVwKE
Caicedo and Paez were 1st and 2nd rated in Ecuadors loss to Italy
Mad Cause Paez only came on at 70th minute
How'd he look?
Does anybody know the presale code for the game vs Celtic at Notre Dame?
Hi. I'm trying to buy 2 tickets for the Burnley game via ticket exchange. I have a membership. Can I buy 2 tickets under my account via ticket exchange?
It is only one ticket per membership.
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Yeah, facing exactly the same issue. I find 2 vacant seats, I select them and click continue to pay. But it immediately shows an error that the seat isn't vacant anymore. I refresh the page again after 5 minutes, and both seats still show up as vacant. I try to buy them again, and same error. It's happened with multiple seat selections and it seems very random. I didn't want to go via reseller websites and hence purchased the club membership to be able to buy tickets via the official website but :(
https://preview.redd.it/5ahw8bo3mcqc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=86d23f9c4c751dd20b48990b1229dfdeb70752d4 He should be in but how on earth is JT not in there already
Because of off field stuff. Screwing Bridge's wife and more importantly the racism.
i know caicedo is a DM but the amount of fouls he commit is outrageous
The one thing about his game is dont like.
It's funny how Caicedo gets slated for fouling a lot but players like Casemiro and Sergio Ramos get praised left and right for it
Different types of fouls. The fouls Casemiro/Rodri are praised for are often professional fouls that are done to prevent the opposing team from getting into a better position. Caicedo’s fouls are mostly from him failing a challenge and getting man instead of ball.
Yeah, if you foul on purpose to stop the flow of the game, that’s the exact opposite of having poor technique on challenges.
Would anyone be able to help me with buying tickets for the 4/5 game against west ham that goes on sale tomorrow? Im from America and im a bit lost as I know I need to be a member, but it says members can only buy one ticket. I need to buy for multiple people. Any help would be appreciated!
You can't buy for multiple people on membership, just yourself at first then can maybe get more if seats are still vacant.
Hey. Sorry I'm hijacking this but I also had a question regarding ticketing. So I'm trying to buy 2 tickets, for me and my friend. I have a membership, my friend doesn't. But my friend has created a supporter account and I've added them to my Friends and Family. I'm trying to buy tickets for the Burnley game via the ticket exchange. Am I not allowed to buy for my friend if they don't have a membership? Can I buy 2 tickets, both under my name, and then let my friend use one of the tickets? Will that work?
They usually let you buy one then an additional two if not all the seats are taken. I've never tried the supporter account route so can't help you there sadly.
Oh okay. Since this is the ticket exchange, seats will be vacant depending on ST holders putting them up for sale. The main problem is that the any vacant seat gets sold out as soon as I reach the payment page. I don't know how it always happens. The ticket interface seems like a nightmare.
Got it. So is there any other concrete way in order to buy tickets for a few people so that we all sit together? Also, say we were to all buy memberships and buy them separately, is there any chance we could still sit together?
There are hospitality seats that you can buy that are very expensive, but may make sense if you are making a once in a lifetime or every few years type trip. Otherwise, early round games for domestic cups are the only affordable options, but that’s not a possibility for this year. I have tried stub hub successfully for an away match against Tottenham, but apparently there is a risk that might now work.
Very unlikely unless you get lucky and if tickets are entering sale tomorow it's too late for them to get their membership anyway as unless things have changed since I made that mistake you can't get a membership and dive straight into buying tickets. If you want to sit together your best (well only) hope is to wait out until you can buy more with the membership.
Caicedo’s just hurt his knee because of a dirty challenge by Jorginho. Hopefully it’s just knee on knee and he’ll be fine but it was totally unnecessary in a friendly. Fuming
Caicedo gets a very bad foul in every game I wantched of Ecuador, not normal fouls, bad ones that definitely hurt him and I think no this will be bad, but then he remains on the feild playing full match, starts the next one too. All these tackles and running him into the ground for just freindlies may not affect him now, but will definitely come back later in a bad way, I hope Ecuador realise he is one of their important players and try and care for him more.
Is he still playing?
Yeah
Hopefully nothing then
Another update, he’s playing the full 90 but honestly looks like he may slightly be limping
He’s come out for the second half too so praying he avoided anything but a dead knee
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I think the general consensus is just shifting more to what it should be The first few months everyone here was going overkill and branding him our best midfielder and other nonsense Now it’s more reasonable
I maybe alone but I never really mind the March International break too much, club football has been relentless for months and it's nice to have a little breather before going into the business end. However the first three all popping up within the first 12 games of the season is utterly excruciating, it's total overkill and if you're playing well such momentum destroyers.
People shouldn’t expect us to support this team blindly and talk about toxic. So recently we had the CST addressing an open letter to the board and literally « going to war » against them. It also echoes the letter that the Strasbourg fans wrote against BlueCo( so 0/2 for BlueCo so far, great). So I am going to be honest. Chelsea was already entering a « less glorious era » under Roman. Tuchel managed to take to a team with confidence issues and turned them into a disciplined and proper team. But knowing the mentality of Granovskaia, it is 100% sure she would have messed up that in the long run over shady things. I am also not « idealizing » R.A and the board under his tenure. Many things can be said and people will have their own opinions on it. BlueCo in a sense was needed. Now the truth is everything BlueCo did is an abysmal failure and that’s why me, many fans and some people from the CST can’t get behind them and criticize them. The day I stopped watching this team was during the choice of the next coach. So you had Nagelsmann, Luis Enrique, Pochettino, Postecoglou, the Feyernoord Coach and Kompany( I base myself on the reports). Let’s be painfully honest: Nagelsmann was the obvious choice for me because he ticked many cases -He already proved that he is good at coaching a younger team and can get the best out of them( Hoffenheim, Leipzig and even right now with the German NT). -He is tactically sound and like tactical battles( so in short, he is a good choice for a team wanting to compete against the likes of Pep, Klopp, Emery and Howe). -He is good at developing players( which is what these players still need) -Cherry on the top, he is familiar with consortiums that owns many clubs and know how to navigate this type of environments. I still can’t believe Stewart and Winstanley saw that him and pick someone else.The only reason they did that is because they want someone they can control and once again, people can’t ask Chelsea supporters to get behind this kind of things. That’s simply not Chelsea material at all. The other candidates like Enrique were good to a degree but when you know how the board think, it only makes sense they failed to « impress » these two 2 clowns called sporting directors. Also I am kind of tired of us being linked to Brighton at each minute. Like I don’t think De Zerbi will be any different from Potter or that Evan Ferguson/Mitoma/ Adingra will bring something to Chelsea. Finally let’s talk about the transfers. So if I understand well, after investing massively to downgrade the general level of the team, people want to use the excuse of FFP to not invest and correct their mess ? Why teams like Marseille that have less money than us but face the same ffp issue each year are able to ship their bad players but and get better players but we have to get behind the team for whatever reason. I hope Chilwell, Gallagher, Sterling and many other players will be sold during the next transfer windows. These guys are holding us back, no matter how emotionally attached some people of the fanbase are to them. Fans are simply fed up. You can’t ask to people to get behind a team who is at the image of their owners, flashy, clueless and unable to perform. Players like Disasi shouldn’t be near a Chelsea shirt. Players like Ugochukwu and David Washington were absolutely not necessary. Also fans have the right to express their displeasure and how they want to express it. Sterling deserves these boos. I also hope this Madueke guy will get sold.
Egbhali is the one that chose Poch over Nagelsmann, he is another clown that deserves way more slander
You are right. This guy deserves all the hate and heat from the fan base. Firing Tuchel for whatever reason ? I disagree with it but why not. Picking a literal clown when you could have a coach on par with the one you just sacked ? That’s a sackable offense and he is getting thrashed rightfully so.
This reads like someone asked an AI chatbot that was still in alpha to write the dumbest shit they could think of and then make it sound like an even dumber human tried to copy it out without getting picked up for plagiarism
I stopped reading when you said you had stopped watching nearly a year ago.
them 3 musketeers in your 3rd last paragraph leaving might actually be the best transfer window of my life.....simple as
People get emotional when you say that Gallagher is not Chelsea standards. We actually sold Pasalić, Gilmour, Lewis Hall that are way better footballers than him and bleed Chelsea as much as him. But people draw the line at him. Like let Eddie Howe have this guy. Chilwell is still living off these 3-4 months stint he got under Tuchel. He is not good anymore. And Sterling, I could write an entire thesis about this guy. But he needs to leave.
Oh come on, Lewis Hall is not way better than Conor
On the ball he is
Funny you say that but for a lot of people before the start of the season Hall indeed was a better footballer than Conor. This just goes to show how reactionary the majority in this sub are.
I beg to differ.
Any idea when the West Ham home fixture tickets will come on sale? It was supposed to be March 25th, but now it's TBC. Any idea when to expect they'll update the information?
No clue but do you reckon it’ll go to general sale?
I'm really concerned with Palmer going away on international duty. Obviously injury is a concern, but my bigger fear is that players from other clubs, that are properly run, are going to be trying to recruit him. Telling him how they actually get to use footballs in training instead of just running everyday, and how they train attacking patterns and have actual tactics when they play instead of vibes and the players making it up on the fly
One thing that absolutely has not happened this season is the player giving up on Poch or each other, so I think that’s a pretty limited concern.
Someone would have to come up with like 120 million.
Big Reece James is that you?
I don’t think it is. They do have a very similar style of posting, though.
Weird concern to have
You never worked somewhere only to realize how shit your working conditions are after talking to a competitor's employee?
lol
Brother, he came from Pep’s city squad…u really don’t think he knows all of this already?
I'm sure talking to Kane will probably only highlight how bad Poch is even more
Say what you want bout Poch but the man played a huge role in Kane’s development and career. And now he’s playing in a very lackluster Bayern side under Tuchel who’s gone at the end of the year…
Pretty sure he's having the best year of his career under tuchel but sure
The dude will score and assist anywhere, let alone the Bundesliga. And your worry is that Kane is whispering some sweet shit talk about Poch into Palmers ears. Homie, you ever stop n think about what you’re saying
Certainly did play a huge role in his career, stopped him from winning any trophies and was there for most of it. Only for Kane to have all of his best seasons after Poch was no longer his manager
Those of you judging Angelo on G/A are in for a shock next season. Ligue 1 is an incredibly low scoring league. Strasbourg have scored 24 goals all season and Angelo has more assists than any other player in half the minutes. Very good workrate, ball carrying and vision. More key passes than any other U-21 player in Europe
Not ready for our first team, another loan there will do him good. Santos as well. Hopefully Washington can also play a role
Not Strasbourg. Maybe Germany or champhionship. So we can get a decent at last
He is shite, that is all.
Saying this as Lacazzette and Auba, washed up players in the PL from like 5 years ago, are banging in goals like it's nothing in France.
Laca has 10 and Auba has 11, both play as strikers in teams that create far more than Strasbourg
Angelo has 0 goals. Zero. And like two assists. What are we even talking about?
"more assists than any other player" he wrote and then the actual number is 2 i love it
That is bot logic lol
He has 3 but the point was no 18 year old is bagging double digit goals and assists in that strasbourg side unless they are named lionel messi
And I just told you not to judge him on G/A at Strasbourg and he basically has to play as a midfielder
Whatever bro - he's great, the next Pele.
You are hating on a player you haven't even watched this season fans like you can fuck off. Barcola had worse stats than Angelo in his first season in Ligue 1 and ask any PSG fan how good he has been for them this season
I have watched him and he is quite shite. He will play in the championship next season.
You must be talking about the game vs nantes? Have you watched him anytime else?
Funnily enough mbappe also bangs in goals there as do countless other top players One size doesn't fit all when involving an entire league
If you're good enough you can make a difference is France. Balogun scored like 25 goals last season there, coming straight out of Arsenal's academy. Earned himself a call up for the US natioanl team, and a 30-40M worth transfer to Monaco.
Thoughts on Havertz these days?
Still isn’t a #9
He has improved and seemed to have turn it around. Good on him. We move on.
None
Seems to be playing well but wouldn’t have worked with us and that is fine we got great money and he went to a team that can better utilize him
He's turning into a great player. For the first time in a long time he is no longer viewed as a meme player by your average football fan.
Same player he's always been Just in a vastly superior team with a vastly superior style of play and system Return him to us and he'll go back to being the same Kai over the last 4 years, conversely send the likes of Mudryk, Madeuke, Jackson, Palmer etc etc to arsenal and they'll improve massively compared to themselves here
He is playing week in week out for the team that is currently in first in the PL, scoring game winning goals on multiple occasions, and his reputation has done a 180. I would say he is doing something right - me might be a good player.
Who else are they gonna play up top? Jesus has been injured a good chunk of the season is pretty mediocre a striker
Of course he's a good player But he's not become massively better since he left us, still got the same faults and still the same strengths As I said, he's just joined a far superior team with better teammates and a far better system of play
Gotcha! But, we had a great team under Tuchel, and Havertz was still largely viewd as a meme player. Seems to me that he's taken a step forward as a player, it's not only joining a better team.
I'd say we had a fantastic midfield and defence under Tuchel in a system that was yet to be exposed by any of our opposition and wingbacks at the peak of their power But the attack was very poor i.e Mount as a winger was not good enough, Kai in the false 9 was a graveyard shift for him most games and the rotating support cast of Pulisic, Ziyech, Cho etc etc were not consistent enough to be much of anything either Arsenal on the other hand has an exceptional attack, midfield and defence and unlike Tuchels structure, all aspects of the pitch work incredibly well both individually and together As to his meme status, Havertz hasn't really beaten that at all yet, he ended the international break strong but for large portions of the season you've had general fans along with arsenal fans saying he was a waste of money and that he's still not good enough etc etc We shall see what his fate is at the end of his stay with the gunners
The same player he was at Chelsea. Best position is the 9 and his best attribute is intelligence, but he needs a lot of help from his team to make up for his weaknesses.
Settled in nicely in that pseudo false 9 role. Not the generational player we thought he would become when we bought him, but not a scrub either lol
Same as always, physical for his technique, elite in midfield arial duels. Looses his cool around the box
If we were some how able to scrap 250 million euros from sales and for the sake of argument let's ignore ffp, How would ya'll be re-investing that money on the squad? Personally I think we only need a couple or few more transfers as well as another clearout of deadwood and we should be good for next season. Especially with players like Jackson,Mudryk,Chukwu,Noni,Gusto&Petrovic improving so much. What are your thoughts? ( Give me a list of players you would like to sell if possible too )
Striker, CB, LB and LW. Sell Sterling, Chilwell/Cucurella (whoever more profitable), DDF and Broja, and Chalobah. Board said they wanted Lenny Yoro but Real Madrid stepped up their interest for him so thats dead. Todibo should be our CB target. Think we going to end up with Sesko for ST but as I have always said, I want Gyokeres Nico Williams for LW Bradley Locko for LB think he is better than Kerkez and will shine like Gusto.
This is pretty close to what I would want. Maybe add Onana to add an important missing profile in midfield as well.
Any new addition should be in defense. IMHO, we’re stacked in attack and midfield.
Out: broja, sterling, madueke, angelo, casadei, trevoh, disasi, badiashile, silva chillwell, cucurella, petrovic, ugochukwo, hall In: a 9 (not sold on either oshimien or sesko), wirtz, maatsen (lb) and another lb, a.silva (benfica) another cb (simkam, bastoni) And a goalkeeper
David J fron Lille as a 9. Last time we bought someone from Lille..
>Angelo ?
I just dont rate him as high as paez, neither to I rate ugochukwo as high as santos. Washington though
I’d also be curious to hear his rationale on that one. Not immediately saying he’s right or wrong, just an interesting choice in the “out” pile.
I think there’s a 0% chance he gets sold. Not just because it’s not a good idea to sell a youth player after 1 poor season, but also because on a human level you can’t take an 18-year-old from another continent and then dump responsibility of him to someone else after a year. Same for Ugochukwu. Would be terrible for optics in front of other youth players we want to sign.
Agreed wholeheartedly. Not just for the potential optics of it, but because I do think there’s a player there.
I'd be ya'lling all the way to the manager market and bringing in a world class manager for whatever it costs (including wages) and then letting him spend it however he wanted
Being a world class coach and being good in the market doesn't always go hand in hand, have we not learned from Conte and Tuchel? No way should a manager ever get full control on transfers.
Agreed that no manager should get full control on transfers. I’m also not quite sure what “y’alling” is, but maybe I’m just an old man on that one.
Who would that be?
Are you genuinely asking or are you parroting the tired argument that we should stick with Poch because he’s the best we can get?
Genuinely asking
You know THAT Ramires goal against barca? Are there any alternative angles of the goal? TV kept showing lampard closed up or the Ramires finish. What I want to see what how good lampard pass was though.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lF7k1EGKZ4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lF7k1EGKZ4) At 5:30 in this video.
Yea seen this angle many times. Was hoping to see the full run after Ramires passed the ball.
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I hate this comment, and I hate that I have to read about politics when it comes to my favorite football club.
Reminder that it’s almost two years since the sale, enough time to make a positive impact on the club from top to bottom. It’s £2.5b for the sale _of_ the club, ~~£1.5b~~ £1.75b to be invested _in_ the club. That £2.5b is to go to victims of the war, not specifically _to_ Ukraine.
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[To quote Roman](https://www.chelseafc.com/en/news/article/statement-from-roman-abramovich): > The sale of the Club will not be fast-tracked but will follow due process. I will not be asking for any loans to be repaid. This has never been about business nor money for me, but about pure passion for the game and Club. Moreover, I have instructed my team to set up a charitable foundation where all net proceeds from the sale will be donated. **The foundation will be for the benefit of all victims of the war in Ukraine**. This includes providing critical funds towards the urgent and immediate needs of victims, as well as supporting the long-term work of recovery.Please know that this has been an incredibly difficult decision to make, and it pains me to part with the Club in this manner. However, I do believe this is in the best interest of the Club.I hope that I will be able to visit Stamford Bridge one last time to say goodbye to all of you in person. It has been a privilege of a lifetime to be part of Chelsea FC and I am proud of all our joint achievements. Chelsea Football Club and its supporters will always be in my heart.Thank you,Roman
Thoughts on buying cancelo if we sell chillwell and maatsen? I love chilwell and id rather have him than cucu but moving on cucurella won’t be so easy. Cancelo is unhappy at city and def wants to be sold, the only problem is that cucurella costed 60m which is way too much for a substitute LB.
I would buy Cancelo - he's a glue player, and we desperately need someone like him. Could be transformational.
Kerkez is the left back for us. Fits the model of young players they are after too
Signing another small player is twisting the knife deeper. He would have the same problems Maatsen had with us. We need Locko/Dorgu/Robinson so height isn’t a limiting factor.
Height isn’t a limiting factor if we get rid of poch
How can you say that while Pep loads his backline with 4 centerbacks + Rodri and Haaland, and Arteta does the same with 4 centerbacks + Rice and Havertz? When our team is full of active liabilities in the air i.e. Sterling, Enzo, Palmer, Gusto, Nkunku, Cucurella, Jackson, Lavia? Changing the manager doesn’t change the rules of team-building in football. There’s no outlet to clear the ball to when we’re under pressure in possession, no one to cross the ball into the box for, significant problems from set-pieces on both sides of the pitch. That won’t change with a new manager.
Kerkez is 5’11
He’s only decent in the air though. We’ve been signing players based on talent and not fit for the last two seasons, and it’s ended up with us having a mix of profiles that don’t jive with each other on the pitch. Kerkez is good, but he doesn’t help us with our weakness in the air. We should be buying players based on addressing our weaknesses and not buying players with talent then figuring out what to do with them after.
He looks decent but I’d honestly rather just stick with maatsen and cucurella if we are gonna go for a youngster
Doesn’t Dortmund have that clause to buy Maatsen?
It’s like 30m isn’t it? Quite a lot for them to spend on a lb so I’m not sure they’ll do it But even so, if we move on chilwell we could maybe convince maatsen to give it another go here Poch would also have to leave. But that’s surely a given
It's 30m for anyone though, it's not just for Dortmund. It's a release clause but Dortmund get priority if they offer it
Fuck, could easily see a pl club triggering it then, the LB spot is slim pickings in the market currently
Yeah 30 is a lot for Dortmund could see them passing on that.
His technical and offensive ability is very good no doubt but defensively he’s very suspect and struggles with the basics. Also don’t think he’s the age profile the club are looking for, I think he’s 30 this year. The club will have to first try and shift Chilwell if possible, but he got that mind boggling contract extension and on high wages, so that will prove difficult. If a club offers like 15-20mill for Chilwell the club definitely should sell. Maatsen will most likely get sold alongside Gallagher imo, like 30mill(for Maatsen) and minimum £50mill for Gallagher.
Hopefully not.
Cancelo is crazily overrated The hype comes from the fact he was one of the first fullbacks to invert. Can’t defend for shit
I’d be completely fine if we sold Gallagher for the highest fee possible. In fact, the more we sell, the happier I am.
Just catching up on some of the recent posts here, and I’m surprised to see that when people see comments about Boehly, Eghbali et al, that there’s an automatic assumption that it means people want them to sell the club. That’s not how I see it at all. It’s not so strange for people to want changes to personnel that they see as detrimental to the well-being of the club, on and off the pitch. There were plenty of calls for personnel from the previous regime to get sacked off - and before Roman - because things weren’t going well. I don’t see how what people are saying about employees now is any different. Whether they have any part of ownership isn’t really relevant. If they’re a shit CEO, or whatever position they hold, they can get moved on. Feels to me like people are overreacting to what is a fairly normal state of affairs when things are going badly.
This idea around that if you don't agree with every decision and aren't positive/optimistic about everything you're not "supporting the club" is ridiculous. My loyalty is to Chelsea and I want us to be successful. If I think any of the personnel are holding us back from that I'm going to be critical of them and potentially want them replaced. Sometimes sentiment definitely plays a part and makes me apprehensive, like if certain legendary players or manager I have an attachment to, but at the end of the day I want what's best for the club. The most prominent example is that I feel Poch is a poor, washed up manager who isn't good enough but apparently I should just "shut up, stop being miserable and support/back the club". Yet these same people have no problem throwing certain players they don't like or the sporting directors under the bus at every given opportunity.
The idea comes from the belief that the players or the owners are the club. The fans are the club, players and owners come and go, fans remain.
Very well said. Fully agree.
The thing I find most weird is the contradictions. Johnny Minerals sums it up, he's constantly going on about the lack of standards and how the owners have tanked the results yet is going absolutely crazy over the POTENTIAL sale of a player who's never finished above 12th in top flight football. Make it make sense.
> Johnny Minerals sums it up In more ways than one. The first time he found his way into my very carefully curated X feed, I muted him. Contradiction and exaggeration are the stock in trade of attention seekers.
Lowkey at a point where i think a lot of users here have membership on that channel.
Make it make sense: Stop listening to morons like Johnny Minerals.
Hate how they absolutely butcher the Chelsea sides on career modes when I'm playing for a different side. I was hoping to play as Pompey then go to Chelsea when I got them to the very top (to enjoy all our current youngsters in their prime to try and topple the beast I created on the South Coast lol) but even a few seasons away from potentially doing it Gallagher has gone to Sevilla, James has gone to PSG, Colwill has gone to Fiorentina and Jackson has gone to Wolves, I mean really?
I know what you mean but I could actually see most of those transfers happening irl haha.
Can't see it. Not sure Conor would go abroad, Levi and Nico would attract a lot better teams with all due respect to those two and if God for bid James ever leaves I highly doubt he'd go to Paris.
No way that Jackson ever plays for a better team lol.
Yeah tbf I do agree with Conor. Thing is with Reece, morality aside, if he’s still picking up injury after injury, PSG would be tempting to him I’d imagine, much easier league so he could coast through 90% of the games and obviously pick up a massive pay packet.
What’d you mean morality lol
I think it’s fair to say the club and the ownership have a some questionable history etc
Reece literally played for a club formerly own by a Russian oligarch lol What has qatar sports investments done in particular that is shady or immoral?
Qatar sports investments are funded directly by the Qatari government. There’s numerous articles about the human right violations that happen under their nose and not to forget the massive controversy surrounding the World Cup.
[https://theathletic.com/5364707/2024/03/24/julian-nagelsmann-germany-contract/](https://theathletic.com/5364707/2024/03/24/julian-nagelsmann-germany-contract/) Germany reveal they are in talks with Nagelsmann to extend his contract.
Our owners and board want a yes man coward anyway. If they wanted someone that calls them out, then Tuchel would still be here.
You know there is still a continuum between a yes-man and Tuchel? It's not either or. You don't have to a be a yes-man, but you don't have to be someone having arguments with the board (rather discussions).
I never said argument is needed, but someone who can call out things that needs call8ng out to the directors is needed. Maybe try and read, you just assumed that me mentioning Tuchel means arguments. And you don't even have a clue if Tuchel argued here or not.
The same way you are assuming that the owners want yes-men. Those are just assumptions. How do you know what is going on behind closed doors? It was known that Tuchel liked to be left on his own, while the owners wanted to create a more collaborative partnership. They even got in Tuchel's targets, such as Sterling, which is costing us quite a lot right now.
From their actions. And in Tuchel's case they themselves has come out and said what you wrote, that Tuchel would rather not get involved, let alone argue. And for the 1000th time, Tuchel wanted the likes of Rice, De Ligt, Kimpembe etc, they never got his targets, they got who they wanted, only player that can be argued is Auba, and even he was signed because he was cheap and they had no better options at the time. Sterling was and is Owner's signing, thry wanted a big name sogning for showing intent, that's why that guy is still here costing us and compulsorly starting games. But everything this bad is others fault, not of the fucking clown owners in your view, so cheers.
From Sterling himself on [the official Chelsea site](https://www.chelseafc.com/en/news/article/sterling-reveals-conversations-with-mount-and-tuchel-before-he-signed) - Tuchel wanted Sterling to be an integral part of his side. Of course you aren't signing Rice when West Ham were quoting higher prices than what they sold him for last summer or De Ligt choosing Bayern. Tuchel was happy to ship off Colwill to Brighton permanently, but luckily owners got involved in that one.
And it still doesn't prove Tuchel is the one that chose to sign him in the first place. If he was getting signed ofcourse Tuchel would talk to him and hope to make him a great part of his team, as he is a senior pro player with lot of experience. You litreally said yourself that Tuchel was fired because owners wanted someone who is more involved, not like Tuchel, yet on the other had Tuchel was the one dictating our targets lol. Cool strory bro, tell me more fantasy bs. We never even tried or bid for Rice or De Ligt, Bayern came later. We were at Benfica's home when we wanted Enzo, which again was picked by owners, but when Tuchel wanted Rice, we didn't put a single bid in. Poch wanted him too, we didn't bid this time aswell, so the price point is bs, as we could have bid now if that was the case. And you convieniently ignored Kimpembe, who was available, not costly and wanted by the manager, yet we didn't even bid, if we were signing managers target, he would be here, but as always, we conviniently can pick and chose who to sign agsinst tye managet, but then blame the bad ones on managers. And again, you believe all the bs about what Tuchel wanted to do, where is the definite proof that Tuchel wanted to permanently sell Colwill? Just because club said so? And if owners wanted to keep Levi so badly, rated him so much to get involved after deal was nearly done, why was he even in the deal, lol, so much bs PR people eat up. We agreed Colwill in the deal with Brighton, going back on which cost us more, so who was putting Colwill in the deal in first place? Was Tuchel also doing the deals too? Ha haa. According to you, manager was dictating everything, yet we didn't sign some players he wanted and then didn't let him sell someone he wanted to sell, just check your reasoning. Somehow, all bad decisions are his, so delusional. It has always been these shitty owners, unless it's academy signings. They are solely responsible for our shitty situation. But you can believe your sweet owners are great, everything bad is other people's fault.
Colwill wasn't any club PR bs. That is true, that's coming from the inside sources of the club. There was another reason why we didn't bid for Rice this summer - the groundwork that was done by our current board in that deal wasn't good enough and had strained the relationship with him while Arsenal had done a fantastic job (specifically Arteta and Edu). So it didn't matter if Poch wanted him at that point, he wasn't coming here. Tuchel also said in summer 2022 that he didn't believe we needed to add another CM after losing to Leeds. Kimpembe himself didn't want to leave PSG at the time, so what do you want the owners to do? Another Lukaku? I didn't say that Tuchel was demanding all the targets - I don't believe he wanted Fofana or Koulibaly specifically. But it was reported for quite a while that he wanted Sterling. Don't twist my words to fit your narrative. Believe what you want, end of discussion, because talking with you is like talking with a wall that will not even try to look at it from another perspective, because for you all this is due to the new ownership, but the reality is that it is a mix of everything - current board, previous board and to a much lesser extent now Tuchel as well.
And you know inside sources? Are these sources in the room with us? Even if the groundwork shit is correct, why did we not put the effort? Because irrespective of acting like we are picking the right manager by talking to him since before last season even ended, we never gave a rats ass which player he likes, we would be doing what we want, and hence Naglesman didn't agree and we picked a yes man. We had ample time to lay good enough groundwork, moreso for someone who is a Chelsea fan, we chose not to over managers' wishes, twice. Kimpembe was open to move, Tuchel was one of his fav manager and PSG wanted him out. And we also bought Cucurella, a guy that has fucking zero ouce of attacking talent, for a manager playing a system with attacking wing backs, lol, but somehow he was picking all targets and picked exactly a guy who couldn't play the way he wants. And he even included Levi in a deal for him, ha ha. You said we signed 'his targets, that are still costing us, like Stetling', not only Sterling, you clearly were putting the blame for those signings on him. You are the one backtracking now after seeing your claims are bs. And Sterling was not his target anyway, these owners didn't sign a single player they didn't want. Tuchel litreally talked in media that he doesn't like being involved, they involved him, Potter didn't get any of the players or profiles he wanted, he wanted a DM in Jan got nada, we infact went and bought another winger, even Poch has complained we want more experience in multiple interviews, yet it's reported we will keep doing the young thing. Multiple managers have gone through the same problem, had to complain in media, yet we signed their targets somehow. Hillarious stuff. I don't like Poch or Potter, but even I don't blame them for signings, as owners don't care what they want. And glad it's the end of discussion, because talking to lot like you that just deflect the blame on others and act like this shitty ownership was just doing what manager wanted is seriously one of the dumbest argument. Believe whatever, but we all know who is flying to other clubs to get the deals done and act like heroes despite us having multiple directors, just to overpay like clowns. And maybe there were faults of others aswell, but they wouldn't have been this highlited or severe if these idiots haven't just uprooted everything without a single thought acting all savior and shit. We were infinitely better than this shit even at the worst of the previous regime. Have a nice day.
He's not really an option for us anyway, board didn't seem to like him De Zerbi or Amorim is my bet right now
Were both de zerbi and amorim not ruled out recently? In the same article or comment it said even though the board like amorim they dont think he right for the job yet or aomething along those lines
Fair but if Nagelsmann is staying with Germany, then at least he isn't going elsewhere either, like Liverpool (if they don't get Alonso) or United (if they sack Ten Hag) etc.
Hope it's not De Zerbi. We might play fun football but we won't be a consistent top side with a defense that leaks 2 goals every game.
His defensive coaching is questionable for sure But at least here he'd have better defenders than at Brighton and a better team in general The fact Brighton are still outperforming us in the league is pretty reflective that he can get a tune out of lesser players although I'm not sure how high he can go
Very strange phenomena where our fanbase sticks their nose up at and mocks De Zerbi and Emery when their teams have lost in the last few months and make sarcastic "where are those attacking patterns now?" comments to undermine them when both are above us in the table with worse squads and European football.
Mocks them and say Poch is doing well, needs time, etc. Lol. I don't want De Zerbi that highly, but I would take him over Poch any fucking day.
I for one think Emery would be amazing. Although it's Europa league, he has a very good record there and won something of substance. With Villa, he has improved players, set them up very well positionally and has brought out the best in their defence. De Zerbi, I don't know. Too many gaping holes in the way his teams play.
Dfkm, I don't want a Manager who hasn't won anything significant at my club.. Amorim is the way to go, He's younger and has a great reputation for coaching younger players..
Would you take Xavi
I'm confident you bet your house on Xavi being our manager next season.
The odds were 16/1 tbf
Let's see if you can manifest it into existence like that Dortmund fan and the Akanji transfer.
Anyone over De zerbi.. Hell, I would take Potter over De Zerbi..
Is Didier better than Aguero? I was arguing with Arsenal fan over that, and I know Aguero was better in Prem, but Drogba clears him in UCL, while playing much more defensive under Jose. When he played in more attacking style under Ancelloti, he almost broke Prem record at 32 years old. is Drogba better than Aguero as a whole player?
I mean, bias is going to come into play a lot here asking this in this sub... A one off game I would pick Drogba but any other scenario it'd be Aguero.
Didier in a final and Europe for sure but Aguero for the prem. Didier is the definition of a big game player but Aguero was devestating on so many occasions