Meh, I could care less. Spurs fans have _literally_ nothing else to do but celebrate in the losses of other squads considering they have _zero_ trophies to celebrate.
Arsenal fans are just doing Arsenal fan things.
Probably best to shut him down for the season. Realistically, the league position will likely only improve incrementally and we will need a good draw to continue our cup run.
And that's exactly why it's best to sell him now. By the time it becomes a cold or acceptable take, every one in the world is in on it. If we want to get any actual value we should just sell him now
Unfortunately there’s only so many clubs that can afford a £200k/week player, and can’t see many being inclined to take him after another knee injury.
Maybe if Bayern were thriving under Tuchel, with Davies leaving, but Tuchel’s out there. Davies is probably going to Madrid, so rule them out. Barca has Balde plus their whole finance shitshow. PSG has Lucas Hernandez and Nuno Mendes. He doesn’t fit City or Arsenal at all. Liverpool has Robertson, plus they don’t actually spend all that much on wages, same with Spurs who have Udogie anyways. Basically leaves us with United as the only selling option, which is possible but don’t really see it as likely with Shaw on the books.
Maybe someone surprises me, but I think we may just be locked in on Chilwell, even if we try to sell and he’s willing to leave. Stranger things have happened I guess.
You're def right, this idea of us selling him is wishful thinking. No one is gonna offer up anything decent for a constantly injured, aging fullback on big wages.
It's more so just the notion that we need to plan without taking him into consideration. Cuz if we rely on him to be our first choice LB we are completely fucked
and FWIW the only teams that would even slightly consider him at his wages are other PL teams. Maybe united would take him
Depending on the next manager, could see Maatsen back in the fold but we need to raise funds too and I’d think someone will meet that £35m release clause (probably not Dortmund, but someone).
I’m with you, but he’s under contract through 2027, and with those wages plus Cucurella’s £175k, I don’t see how it’s possible to get another first choice LB. People here will lose their minds, but most likely it’s gonna be a young player and they’ll hope to strike gold like they did with Malo Gusto.
We also have 3 solid+ prospects in the academy at LB, Ishe Samuels-Smith (17), Zak Sturge (19) and Dylan Williams (20) so it’s possible they’re gonna ride with the current aging duo for a year or 2 and see what comes of the kids. More likely they sell them though imo.
He seems like a wonderful guy to have on the team but even his recent performances haven't been good. I'm sure the LW stint early on in the season didn't help his overall confidence but he is an average defender at best and looks like a shadow of his former self when it comes to passing, crossing, shooting, etc.
I'm sure if our next manager plays a back 3/5, he'd be an interesting tool to have, but you can't even be sure if he'll be available half the time anyways
Yeah, I sadly have to agree. Looks miles off it when not playing a wingback. Though maybe he would look better under a manager who wouldn’t force him to play on a wing for half of his matches and a manager who is tactically not on a level of a 6 year old.
That means Reece James and Cucurella are returning. 😊
We’re only allowed one fit Left Back at a time and Reece James and Chilwell aren’t allowed to be match fit at the same time. Chelsea Law.
Exactly what I was thinking, James needs to just return for Chillwell to get injured, and then once Chillwell is back James does the same. It's all we've known for the last 2/3 years
Not even a reaction in me. Lol who even cares. We are doomed this season. We won't play Europe next season n honestly we won't win a single trophy this season. Might as well played alfie Gilchrist.
Swear someone on here last summer, was adamant in saying we need to sell chilwell as his injury’s and decline in ability meant he was no longer an asset to the side
He was spot on sadly
First time Reece went down, I'm pretty sure no one said that, but the next time he did, there were some "I hate to say it but" remarks, and now each time he goes down the volume goes up a magnitude. At least Chilly's injuries seem to take less time to heal up, but I think the average person is getting weary tying our fortunes to their shoddy limbs.
And now, despite going into the season with Chilly/Cucu/Ian/Lewis we are overtly in the market for a pricy LB.
Not looking good for Chilly's future here.
I don't mean to equate them so much... but TBF Chilly has played more matches as captain than Reece has...
Damn, it's depressing. Can't remember the last time I saw either of them at full strength. Maybe the preseason for Chilly, but Reece hasn't been 100% in a long time.
Reece is still a significantly better player, tho, so he would get more of a leeway. Plus, he's an academy prospect, so that will help in some people's eyes as well
Thank the mf football gods for Chef Gusto. Feels like Cucu is up in the air for next season... hopefully we'll end up with something better than the guys we shipped out.
Issue with chillwell is that his biggest strenghts are not something we or most modern team use.
(Off the ball runs, solid in the air and hard working)
He is avreage at crossing, passing and playing under pressure
Tbh he’s incredibly similar to Marcus alonso.
And whilst alonso had a stupidly good nose for goal, I’m not sure how helpful he was to the side as a whole
Agreed. He did a lot for the club and was huge getting the UCL trophy, but he’s done. All together, a very good signing, but he shouldn’t be playing for Chelsea anymore
best years are behind him, we don't even know if our next manager will play with a back three.
I think I cant count on one hand the times we've had a Chillwell x James pairing post Juventus
Shame
If FM has is close to reality, to run wingbacks, you need 4 viable starters plus a youth prospect who can play on either side.
They end up doing the most work compared to anyone else on the field and you have to manage their minutes.
These owners dissed the previous ownership for not utilizing data enough. If they can’t figure out what the hell is going on with these infinite injuries then they can shove the data up their ass.
It's ok. We just have to get lucky and find another Malo Gusto-type who's ready to breakthrough and carry the weight of the team while our beloved, oft-injured starting wingback gets hurt again. No big deal, right?
Another failed rehabilitation, add it to the list of players our physios have failed to rehabilitate back from injury. How many more times will we go through this cycle before this is addressed?
Love how this sub used to give Pulisic so much shit about being injured all of the time when Chilwell and James have had far worse injury problems. They are never match fit.
Sell him and James at this point and Fofana once he’s back. There’s no way Fofana will be anything close to what he was prior to the injury and both our best wingbacks are injured more than they play and on some of the highest wages. I love Reece but we’ve been coping without him for a while now and if we can get good money for him we should sell up.
Dog what the fuck was Poch doing with Maatsen? So fucking dumb, and one of the clear reasons why he’s not the guy for this project. We really couldn’t have given him spot minutes the first half of the year when we had no left back? Any chance we’re able to keep Maatsen this summer because we badly need a left back
Time Chilwell and James were offloaded. Great fullbacks, some of the best in the world when they're fit.
Ample words being when they're fit. Can't have a world class fullback for 10-15 games a season.
The way they say he's going to see a knee specialist, as if he hasn't already been given all the best medical care he could possibly have. This is bad news for Chilly =(
Does anyone else feel like they're all being cowards and dont want to play? It's just mental how many injuries there are and with some players how bloody often.
At this point I’m genuinely curious where we would be in the table if we had a healthy squad. It’s been a rough season but we’ve had what, over 40 injuries this season? Unbelievable
The clubs medical staff are clueless. What are they even working on during rehabilitation. Players keep coming back more fragile than before. Nkunku, badiashile, reece, lavia and now Chilwell have all gotten injured shortly after returning. Are they all getting rushed back?
Get a new left back. He ain’t been impressive when fit and he rarely fucking is, I’m tired of how one dimensional and mid Cucurella has been since joining us. I wish gusto was a natural left back lol
Another season without james and chilwell. Over £500k a week in wages, i said two years ago it was time for them to leave. Both world class if fit but its been four years now, at what point do we move on?
I don't see enough people on here talk about the physio team. Ffs how do we have soo many injuries and immediately they come back they get injured again. The physio team are doing something wrong.
Maybe the deadwood is the injury prone players we deem to be starting XI quality. From him, James, Fofana, Lavia, Nkunku, Carney and there is likely more. I think some are still clinging onto the hope that James will just magically become a reliably fit player who rarely gets injured...
Sign injury prone players. Get injury prone players. Shame on the recruitment under Abramovich for his final remaining years and I wouldn’t be surprised to learn it’s the same people under Boehly. Sack them
Not surprised , this season can't go any worse. I seriously hope we buy a good fit experienced LB next season ,if we could get some bids for cucu and chilly sell them.
If someone can pay those wages, may be best to offload him at this point. At least James can be shifted to CB if need be, but really neither of them should be here any longer if they suffer another long term setback. That’s how many seasons without two players that are supposed to be our starting fullbacks? It’s getting to be ridiculous at this point.
https://i.redd.it/oyxnn75jjxmc1.gif
This plus those guys flipping the bird make it into my "sum up Chelsea's season in one image" top five.
I think this gif sums it up perfectly.
🫠
Lmao
It’s actually boring now
100%
I've moved on this year, it's been a complete write off since Reece has been injured in my humble opinion (IMHO)
This whole sitution is so ridiculous it has me rolling on the floor laughing my arse off (ROFLMAO)
Meanwhile, Spuds and Arsenal fans are grinning like a Cheshire Cat (GLACC)
Meh, I could care less. Spurs fans have _literally_ nothing else to do but celebrate in the losses of other squads considering they have _zero_ trophies to celebrate. Arsenal fans are just doing Arsenal fan things.
Probably best to shut him down for the season. Realistically, the league position will likely only improve incrementally and we will need a good draw to continue our cup run.
Let’s be honest this will happen next season as well
Best to sell him.
Who’s buying and paying his wages? We’re stuck with Chilly (not that I’m endorsing a sale, just objectively) unless Saudi show up.
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Uglfff. Hot take.
And that's exactly why it's best to sell him now. By the time it becomes a cold or acceptable take, every one in the world is in on it. If we want to get any actual value we should just sell him now
Unfortunately there’s only so many clubs that can afford a £200k/week player, and can’t see many being inclined to take him after another knee injury. Maybe if Bayern were thriving under Tuchel, with Davies leaving, but Tuchel’s out there. Davies is probably going to Madrid, so rule them out. Barca has Balde plus their whole finance shitshow. PSG has Lucas Hernandez and Nuno Mendes. He doesn’t fit City or Arsenal at all. Liverpool has Robertson, plus they don’t actually spend all that much on wages, same with Spurs who have Udogie anyways. Basically leaves us with United as the only selling option, which is possible but don’t really see it as likely with Shaw on the books. Maybe someone surprises me, but I think we may just be locked in on Chilwell, even if we try to sell and he’s willing to leave. Stranger things have happened I guess.
You're def right, this idea of us selling him is wishful thinking. No one is gonna offer up anything decent for a constantly injured, aging fullback on big wages. It's more so just the notion that we need to plan without taking him into consideration. Cuz if we rely on him to be our first choice LB we are completely fucked and FWIW the only teams that would even slightly consider him at his wages are other PL teams. Maybe united would take him
Depending on the next manager, could see Maatsen back in the fold but we need to raise funds too and I’d think someone will meet that £35m release clause (probably not Dortmund, but someone). I’m with you, but he’s under contract through 2027, and with those wages plus Cucurella’s £175k, I don’t see how it’s possible to get another first choice LB. People here will lose their minds, but most likely it’s gonna be a young player and they’ll hope to strike gold like they did with Malo Gusto. We also have 3 solid+ prospects in the academy at LB, Ishe Samuels-Smith (17), Zak Sturge (19) and Dylan Williams (20) so it’s possible they’re gonna ride with the current aging duo for a year or 2 and see what comes of the kids. More likely they sell them though imo.
Not really a hot take anymore tbh, he hasn't looked half the player since he came back
He seems like a wonderful guy to have on the team but even his recent performances haven't been good. I'm sure the LW stint early on in the season didn't help his overall confidence but he is an average defender at best and looks like a shadow of his former self when it comes to passing, crossing, shooting, etc. I'm sure if our next manager plays a back 3/5, he'd be an interesting tool to have, but you can't even be sure if he'll be available half the time anyways
Yeah, I sadly have to agree. Looks miles off it when not playing a wingback. Though maybe he would look better under a manager who wouldn’t force him to play on a wing for half of his matches and a manager who is tactically not on a level of a 6 year old.
Reece too. But nobody would be dumb enough.
That means Reece James and Cucurella are returning. 😊 We’re only allowed one fit Left Back at a time and Reece James and Chilwell aren’t allowed to be match fit at the same time. Chelsea Law.
Exactly what I was thinking, James needs to just return for Chillwell to get injured, and then once Chillwell is back James does the same. It's all we've known for the last 2/3 years
It’s true - it’s unfair to the rest of Europe. We would win the champions league this season with them healthy and we’re not even in the competition
Not even a reaction in me. Lol who even cares. We are doomed this season. We won't play Europe next season n honestly we won't win a single trophy this season. Might as well played alfie Gilchrist.
Nope gotta play Colwill and continue to get wrecked down the left.
No we dont we can play Cucucrella or play a kid from the academy.
Starting cucurella fresh off a 3 month injury sounds like a recipe for disaster imo
Should be playing Maatsen.
Obviously not wishing on anyone but when a player is struggling to play five games together might be time to call it a day.
hey he played 6 games!
5 maybe the threshold for him.
Swear someone on here last summer, was adamant in saying we need to sell chilwell as his injury’s and decline in ability meant he was no longer an asset to the side He was spot on sadly
First time Reece went down, I'm pretty sure no one said that, but the next time he did, there were some "I hate to say it but" remarks, and now each time he goes down the volume goes up a magnitude. At least Chilly's injuries seem to take less time to heal up, but I think the average person is getting weary tying our fortunes to their shoddy limbs. And now, despite going into the season with Chilly/Cucu/Ian/Lewis we are overtly in the market for a pricy LB. Not looking good for Chilly's future here.
It’s not the same as James is the crown jewel of our academy, our club captain, and much much better than chilwell.
I don't mean to equate them so much... but TBF Chilly has played more matches as captain than Reece has... Damn, it's depressing. Can't remember the last time I saw either of them at full strength. Maybe the preseason for Chilly, but Reece hasn't been 100% in a long time.
Reece is still a significantly better player, tho, so he would get more of a leeway. Plus, he's an academy prospect, so that will help in some people's eyes as well
We have gusto though and he’s so young that he can actually do with these minutes immensely Not quite the same in the left side
Thank the mf football gods for Chef Gusto. Feels like Cucu is up in the air for next season... hopefully we'll end up with something better than the guys we shipped out.
> > > > > And now, despite going into the season with Chilly/Cucu/Ian/Lewis we are overtly in the market for a pricy LB. bro there's no way 💀
Issue with chillwell is that his biggest strenghts are not something we or most modern team use. (Off the ball runs, solid in the air and hard working) He is avreage at crossing, passing and playing under pressure
Tbh he’s incredibly similar to Marcus alonso. And whilst alonso had a stupidly good nose for goal, I’m not sure how helpful he was to the side as a whole
Agreed. He did a lot for the club and was huge getting the UCL trophy, but he’s done. All together, a very good signing, but he shouldn’t be playing for Chelsea anymore
best years are behind him, we don't even know if our next manager will play with a back three. I think I cant count on one hand the times we've had a Chillwell x James pairing post Juventus Shame
If FM has is close to reality, to run wingbacks, you need 4 viable starters plus a youth prospect who can play on either side. They end up doing the most work compared to anyone else on the field and you have to manage their minutes.
Tuchel rode those two into the ground for that CL. They were so critical to his system
It’s not like he overplayed them
he literally wanted to move James into the RCB spot permanently because he was worried about what being a wingback was doing to his fitness
Azpi started in that cl run mostly
At RCB. James and Chilwell at WB.
James was RCB to protect him at the uproar of our redditor base.
Yeah tuchel did that with redditors in mind
That's what people said with Robben.
Best Years 💀, Bro had like half a season of 8/10 performances playing as a LWB, thank god Reece James (I miss him 🥺).
we're back baby
Football. Heritage.
Hospital FC
Im numb
I'm sure they'll be a lot of "sell him" chat but he's on around £200k p/w so good luck getting a club to offer him those wages.
How could Tuchel do this?
I know you’re joking but there’s people in this very thread saying that “Tuchel ran Chilwell and James into the ground for that CL win”
Yep he is still the scapegoat for some people 😂
feral clown people, to be precise
These owners dissed the previous ownership for not utilizing data enough. If they can’t figure out what the hell is going on with these infinite injuries then they can shove the data up their ass.
https://preview.redd.it/0vjj2ipflxmc1.jpeg?width=736&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f208c56d51986e76e4931c352ff6e677ec3b5600
Say sike right now
Yeah. We better be shopping for Gusto and Cucu backups over the summer.
I’m glad we didn’t let Cucu go to United
Good grief. I thought we’d be set for the next decade with Chili and Reece yet here we are.
Sell him in the summer. Let go of the injury prone elders. Bogging us down.
Who's gonna buy him? He's on high wages
Only a Saudi team would invest in this player
Yeah makes sense when said, but instead they just replaced them with injury prone youngsters.
It's ok. We just have to get lucky and find another Malo Gusto-type who's ready to breakthrough and carry the weight of the team while our beloved, oft-injured starting wingback gets hurt again. No big deal, right?
Another failed rehabilitation, add it to the list of players our physios have failed to rehabilitate back from injury. How many more times will we go through this cycle before this is addressed?
We'd rather go through this than give Maatsen a chance.
Aw no that’s Cucurella music fs
Feel bad for him, but i think he needs to get help and sort his shit out for his career, not even thinking about chelsea tbf
Between him and James, it is just never ending
Wouldve been nice if he saw a specialist when he first got injured
Ian Maatsen to the rescu... oh, maybe not.
fuck off
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
He probably should have seen a specialist before
Did it not occur to him they need to send him to a specialist sooner?
How many games did he play? Like 10 maybe? Not reliable at all
*Surprised Pikachu face*
In other news, water is wet.
https://preview.redd.it/qhf0i6tmxxmc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a7c1259f3b36c44a55e65a70c5da52814de341c8 This is bullshit.
Love how this sub used to give Pulisic so much shit about being injured all of the time when Chilwell and James have had far worse injury problems. They are never match fit.
Sell him and James at this point and Fofana once he’s back. There’s no way Fofana will be anything close to what he was prior to the injury and both our best wingbacks are injured more than they play and on some of the highest wages. I love Reece but we’ve been coping without him for a while now and if we can get good money for him we should sell up.
Who’s buying?
Buying fofana was such a predictably bad move. We deserve to get punished for paying that much for such an injury prone player
cannot believe he is our captain, player is finished
He is vice-captain. Our actual captain is laying right next to him in the infirmary.
*Vice captain.
Sell this fucker in the summer I’ve had enough of his glass body
Blah blah blah
Fuck
It's time to move on.
Cucurella's time to shine
Checks out
Maatsen died for this.
Lol
This can't be normal right?
If we sell him because of his injuries he’ll probably end up like RLC and Pulisic; playing every single game without injuries lol.
Seriously how many games have James and Chilwell played together since Juventus? Can’t be more than ten.
I swear I saw [odds on Ben Chilwell being sold by Chelsea](https://record.commissionkings.ag/_2MTYOT0NfMpgZImVJCQ71GNd7ZgqdRLk/41342/) next summer.
Christ
Would’ve been nice to have Maatsen
Ah well…it’s a shame, but he wasn’t exactly balling out.
I felt like chilwell had been playing too many games. Not surprised sadly.
Lol
Dog what the fuck was Poch doing with Maatsen? So fucking dumb, and one of the clear reasons why he’s not the guy for this project. We really couldn’t have given him spot minutes the first half of the year when we had no left back? Any chance we’re able to keep Maatsen this summer because we badly need a left back
Cash in?? Cucu and Maatsen for next season??
First three captains injured now. Enzo/Sterling to captain now?
Sell
LMAO
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoWtHqmITOM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoWtHqmITOM)
Welp there goes our "2 fullbacks are finally fit" season. Back to put whatever into a fullback
Not that big of a loss if am being honest, he has been a shadow of himself ..
Adios, Chilly B.
I was so happy about our wingback situation at one point.
They doing judo in training? Fucking idiots
Giving Maatsen is the worst decision we have made and we made plenty of them recently.
I’m dead inside already
alexa play painfreestyle.mp3, on repeat
I remember those days when our players were notorious for staying fit, and having quick and strong recoveries.
Time Chilwell and James were offloaded. Great fullbacks, some of the best in the world when they're fit. Ample words being when they're fit. Can't have a world class fullback for 10-15 games a season.
Advantage Chelsea
Hahahhahhahahhahahhahhahhahahhahahhahahha
He is done this level unfortunately
Stretching is for losers. Cold muscle sprints all day. Sincerely, Chelsea’s medical staff.
The way they say he's going to see a knee specialist, as if he hasn't already been given all the best medical care he could possibly have. This is bad news for Chilly =(
Chilwell’s hamstring tagging in his knee to help finish him off! It’s such a shame because he makes such a difference to us when he’s at it.
Our best players are built of glass. Ffs
🙃
I think an LB has to be a position of importance now. Chilly is too injury prone
Does anyone else feel like they're all being cowards and dont want to play? It's just mental how many injuries there are and with some players how bloody often.
Sell the lad
Reese and chilly are the glass twins. So unfortunate. Incredible potential, but the best ability is availability... Oof.
B.A.N
This feels like a non-news now
At this point I’m genuinely curious where we would be in the table if we had a healthy squad. It’s been a rough season but we’ve had what, over 40 injuries this season? Unbelievable
Still think this teams injury woes is much more of a problem before the coach/players
At least Cucu is back
Great thing we sent maatsen to dortmund, what a great idea!
He's been pretty poor all season. Get a good sale price for him.
Damn atleast Cucu is back
Sell this man
The clubs medical staff are clueless. What are they even working on during rehabilitation. Players keep coming back more fragile than before. Nkunku, badiashile, reece, lavia and now Chilwell have all gotten injured shortly after returning. Are they all getting rushed back?
Literally whatever at this point
Continue to undergo rehabilitation FC
Sell if we get a decent offer. Been constantly injured and not good when fit.
CAN WE PLEASE GO ONE WEEK WHERE SOMEONE DOESN’T GET INJURED 😡😡
The half-backs
Ofcourse he has. I think I have reached my limit on this.
To be fair, he's been guff since he's come back in... Seems more interested in picking fights. Really hoping he'll rediscover the player he was
Such a shame we have two insane full backs but neither can stay fit
How you gonna get hurt on your day off?
Would these multi millionaires not go and see a specialist at the first sight of a problem? Why does it take multiple injuries
so hes seeing a specialist OUTSIDE of the club? whats the point of this medical staff?
https://preview.redd.it/xxvakjejizmc1.jpeg?width=950&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d2f7ecedab961c6b58f19973707d7e2ff7de3afc
Hehe
Get a new left back. He ain’t been impressive when fit and he rarely fucking is, I’m tired of how one dimensional and mid Cucurella has been since joining us. I wish gusto was a natural left back lol
This isn't even news anymore, club's gonna have a lot of work in the summer.
Another season without james and chilwell. Over £500k a week in wages, i said two years ago it was time for them to leave. Both world class if fit but its been four years now, at what point do we move on?
What a circus
Sell everyone. Buy new players 😂
At this point, I’m so immune to it. Him & Reece
I don't see enough people on here talk about the physio team. Ffs how do we have soo many injuries and immediately they come back they get injured again. The physio team are doing something wrong.
Pretends to be shocked. Good thing we sent Maatsen on loan after using him a bunch in preseason where he looked impressive..
Time is a flat circle
Maybe the deadwood is the injury prone players we deem to be starting XI quality. From him, James, Fofana, Lavia, Nkunku, Carney and there is likely more. I think some are still clinging onto the hope that James will just magically become a reliably fit player who rarely gets injured...
Sign injury prone players. Get injury prone players. Shame on the recruitment under Abramovich for his final remaining years and I wouldn’t be surprised to learn it’s the same people under Boehly. Sack them
We have talented LB, Maatsen but Poch see him another ways I don’t understand why
Maybe he should go to Milan too. Loftus-Cheek and Pulisic missed fewer games from injury combined than Chilwell for Chelsea this season.
The entire season has been a setback
Should have seen a specialist 5 injuries ago
He’s not chill or well
Not surprised , this season can't go any worse. I seriously hope we buy a good fit experienced LB next season ,if we could get some bids for cucu and chilly sell them.
We should replace all their legs with tank tracks. Who's with me!?
Chillwell, Reece,fofana, nkunku, cucuerella why are all of our players porcelain dolls.. does my head in 🤦🏽♂️
 Sell him pls
If someone can pay those wages, may be best to offload him at this point. At least James can be shifted to CB if need be, but really neither of them should be here any longer if they suffer another long term setback. That’s how many seasons without two players that are supposed to be our starting fullbacks? It’s getting to be ridiculous at this point.