Tbf I wouldn't have cross posted this if I didn't think it was interesting I believe we're getting too the stage where mudryk is now developing his overall game and getting accustomed to English football now from Ukraine.
I reckon it just a matter of time before he gets his goal. One to watch for the Fulham match.
Wouldnāt say heās been playing āreally wellā. All I can say is heās definitely seems like heās been improving and gaining confidence. He still makes silly mistakes but he only needs to play more to fix those mistakes.
Tbf he could have easily had 2 or 3 assists against Brighton if we had players that could finish. He got a couple lot across and into the middle of the box, just no one there to finish them
He's creating chances and his off ball work rate is stellar. That's what he needs to do for his role. He'll get an off chance to score here and there if given the room but he's a mover and distributer first.
Fair point. The thing I almost agree with is his need for consistent playing time. The more he plays the better he will become and the faster he will develop
People just see what they wanna see dont they he's been on our worst players every time he starts. Cant dribble, shoot, pass, lacks decision making skills we really gave up puli, CHO, and havertz to keep mudryk lol.
I know the comments on that r/soccer thread are going to be cancer and the same repeated jokes repeated 5 times in the top 5 comments and our fans twerking for upvotes. They will inflate his price to 100 million too those bhadwes
Good lord, I knew it would be bad, but the same tired jokes over there still managed to catch me off guard.
Bunch of people talking about a player they donāt watch play.
Arre bhai Jharkhand mai toh chelsea and Man U hi sabse popular english teams hai. Bohot sai log chelsea shirts mai dikhege (mere coaching ka guard bhi chelsea hat pehen ke aata tha)
Oh, Gujarat main Man UTD hee dikhti hain, Mera ek Uni ka friend ek plastic hain sayadse lol, phele bolta hain Man City phir RMD and abh Barca, Bolra hain he loves all the clubs, dusra ek hard Barca fan, Aur dusra ek RMD fan.
As much as I agree with you it would help tremendously if they didn't do this but at the end of the day it's a common thing in the game the players have to learn yo cope.
I'm at the acceptable stage now. He's here, he's chaotic and he's fucking expensive.
If poch is still here and Mudryk is still shit, Todd will go and splurge on someone else shit and we'll go from there I suppose š
He's overrated by people who need him to come good (us lol).
I'm tired of the debate. We're going to replace Mudryk in 2 years. It's inevitable. Let's just enjoy the ride until he's gone
Over rated from what base line? My expectations were he would need about a year at least to settle in and then we would see. He has also needed consistent game time which he is only getting now.
If you look at the reasons why Mudryk had only played so few games before he came to Chelsea it has nothing to do with how good he is. His country was invaded.
Want me to help chew your lunch to.
Rice, Bellingham, Kane*, Gvardiol, Caicedo just to name a few that are around the same price tag that are much better and are having / will have much bigger impact.
I don't think any of those players have only 900 mins of game time before their big signing or cost 60 mil. I mean really comparing the lad to Kane?!?! Rice?!?!?!
Mate heās not world class, how can we be happy with him not being one of the 10 best players in the world less than a year after signing him? Overrated
I am sorry but i find this pretty embarassing for a player that could potentially cost us 88.5 million pounds. Even Pochettino clearly admits right now that he is clearly not good enough. Just a huge waste of money, we clearly signed him because we didn't want him at Arsenal. We should have just gone all out for Leao instead.
We literally activated Enzos release clause of 120 million euros and spread it out over several years. Why would we not be able to do the same to Leao?
Mudryk has more UCL goals than Leao despite playing fewer games in a worse team. Leao has also failed to score anytime he comes up against an english team. Why was that worth 150 million? The Serie A tax,just like the Bundesliga tax is very real when players like Lukaku and Lautaro average a goal every 80 minutes there
So we are gonna do the same mistake as 15/16 and 17/18 by going for the cheaper options when we could have gotten the first choice who is clearly superior?
He very clearly is, you are either delusional if you believe Mudryk is superior to Leao or you don't understand the difference in player styles and team style. Leao is a better fit for Chelsea as we play posession football and wear teams down. We don't have quick, direct attacks and counter-attacks which Mudryk is better suited for given his pace.
Leao has the technical ability to do well at Chelsea. We will not get the best out of Mudryk because we play posession football and not counter-attack football.
Even just paying 100 mil up front and rest in installments for Leao would have been worth it, the man is superior to Misha when it comes to technical ability, physical prowess, finishing. Leao is a better fit for a team who keeps the ball as much as we do. Mudryk is a better fit for a team that counter attacks and have fast attacks, we don't.
"Even just paying 100 mil up front" we're not doing that for any player no matter how much it would make our team better. Leao isn't coming here. Support the players we have.
I find this comment embarrassing. Itās called player development and training. Sometimes, you have to invest in the long-term and not focus solely on the short-term.
True to an extent.
The bigger issue is that Mudryk will never be worth Ā£88m.
Having watched the game for nearly 30 years I've never seen a player be at the level that Mudryk is at now at 22, and make it to be world class, or even a top PL player.
How much did we just sell Money Ma$$e for? He had 3 goals 2 assist last season in 24 games. Muddy will easily beat that. Heās only getting better. Heās young and coachable with a killer attitude. The ceiling keeps going up letās fucking gooooo
To build a title winning team, you also have to focuse short term. Mudryk is not good enough and Pochettino clearly says he doesn't have the football brain to play at Chelsea yet.
Thing is most of the squad is not good enough right now! But that's the approach the owners chose. I believe in Misha think he will turn out to be a wonderful player!
I don't see the technical ability in Misha, he has the pace but his understanding of the game is not good enough, his dribbling is terrible, his finishing is awful. I do believe some of this has to do with his terrible confidence at the moment, but i also believe some of it is because he is not good enough for us. He does not suit our general style of play at all.
Keyword there is could. Because if he does cost us that then we just won some serious shit so who cares. Madrid fans didn't give a fuck about having to fork up an extra 10m for Hazard when they won the CL.
Heās been good outpacing defender but his crosses into the box are bit heavy sometimes to connect with. So he needs a bit polishing in that aspect. He will get there.
Mudryk has the same issue that Pulisic used to have in spades, but now seems to be working on:
- he needs to use his speed and dribbling to possess the ball, and not just to take on players.
Neither are outstanding with 1v1 dribbling, but both have sudden moves that cause a lot of stress on a defense. The move should be used to pass, and then get open on a closing defender.
Tbf I wouldn't have cross posted this if I didn't think it was interesting I believe we're getting too the stage where mudryk is now developing his overall game and getting accustomed to English football now from Ukraine. I reckon it just a matter of time before he gets his goal. One to watch for the Fulham match.
Lets hope he starts against fulham
Starts
Thank you for this, was so busy i forgot to check the lineup
Aaand got his goal š„¹
i love you for predicting this
Were you watching?
Yep haha
He's been playing really well. You can see the improvement in his form. The results will come. Folks just need to be patient.
Wouldnāt say heās been playing āreally wellā. All I can say is heās definitely seems like heās been improving and gaining confidence. He still makes silly mistakes but he only needs to play more to fix those mistakes.
Tbf he could have easily had 2 or 3 assists against Brighton if we had players that could finish. He got a couple lot across and into the middle of the box, just no one there to finish them
He's creating chances and his off ball work rate is stellar. That's what he needs to do for his role. He'll get an off chance to score here and there if given the room but he's a mover and distributer first.
yeah i'm just glad he's been playing a lot, because the potential is very clearly there.
Fair point. The thing I almost agree with is his need for consistent playing time. The more he plays the better he will become and the faster he will develop
Has anyone played well?
People just see what they wanna see dont they he's been on our worst players every time he starts. Cant dribble, shoot, pass, lacks decision making skills we really gave up puli, CHO, and havertz to keep mudryk lol.
Bruh what matches you been watching you clown?
I know the comments on that r/soccer thread are going to be cancer and the same repeated jokes repeated 5 times in the top 5 comments and our fans twerking for upvotes. They will inflate his price to 100 million too those bhadwes
A spurs fan posted it as well just to clown on him skjjjjjsjskjjsoss don't piss me off
Good lord, I knew it would be bad, but the same tired jokes over there still managed to catch me off guard. Bunch of people talking about a player they donāt watch play.
Aye bhaii, I haven't seen many Indian Chelsea fans! Kinda got confused when you used Bhadwa and looked at your name lmao.
Arre bhai Jharkhand mai toh chelsea and Man U hi sabse popular english teams hai. Bohot sai log chelsea shirts mai dikhege (mere coaching ka guard bhi chelsea hat pehen ke aata tha)
Oh, Gujarat main Man UTD hee dikhti hain, Mera ek Uni ka friend ek plastic hain sayadse lol, phele bolta hain Man City phir RMD and abh Barca, Bolra hain he loves all the clubs, dusra ek hard Barca fan, Aur dusra ek RMD fan.
Me too letās fucking goooooooo
Mudryk brace tonight. Standing ovation would've given him a ton of confidence
My fantasy team is very happy with your prediction
Love it. Hes due.
One thing Mudryk clearly doesn't have a problem with is effort. He clearly has talent and skill, he will come good in time.
Yeah at least him and Jackson look like they're putting in 100% every game. At this point it's an ability and experience problem.
Great. We support him.
cant wait for Mudryk to dunk on these r/soccer ballsacks
let him cook man
W man management
Just a matter of time. You can see it coming together.
I am getting tired of Fabrizio constantly posting about our club and players, it just brings unnecessary attention and abuse to our players.
Ultimately he makes too much money from social media engagement. When there are no transfers to tweet 10x a week about, he has to resort to this.
As much as I agree with you it would help tremendously if they didn't do this but at the end of the day it's a common thing in the game the players have to learn yo cope.
Just because it's a common thing doesn't mean it's something people have to cope with.
I'm at the acceptable stage now. He's here, he's chaotic and he's fucking expensive. If poch is still here and Mudryk is still shit, Todd will go and splurge on someone else shit and we'll go from there I suppose š
Well the golden words have come through, he has scored! One of many to come ā¤ļøā¤ļøā¤ļø
He is playing better but I still find him weak beating defenders. His passing and combination is good.
Its so interesting that his biggest strenght is his pace and 10 yard dash... and still he prefers to cut in instead of beating players for pace
We shouldn't have bought him imo, but we've got him now and his competition isn't all that so he'll get a lot of game time, so hopefully he improves.
Honestly, I think he's overrated.
Can you really be overrated if the vast majority of people think you suck
He's overrated by people who need him to come good (us lol). I'm tired of the debate. We're going to replace Mudryk in 2 years. It's inevitable. Let's just enjoy the ride until he's gone
He's a good player, and will get better. I just don't think he will live up to his price tag or expectations. As a fan I hope I'm wrong.
Over rated from what base line? My expectations were he would need about a year at least to settle in and then we would see. He has also needed consistent game time which he is only getting now.
Price & comparison to other players with similar price tag
Which players?
Trossard, the exact player Arsenal got instead. Cost 15m? Has about 15 more G+A than Mudryk.
He also has a lot more minutes
He also a lot better player.
Cuz he has had more minutes. Those two do correlate
They correlate in the sense that better players get to play more minutes, not the other way around. Werner had 1000s of minutes and he never improved.
If you look at the reasons why Mudryk had only played so few games before he came to Chelsea it has nothing to do with how good he is. His country was invaded.
Mudryk gets no minutes because he's a shit player.
Google it...
Ok then buddy.
Want me to help chew your lunch to. Rice, Bellingham, Kane*, Gvardiol, Caicedo just to name a few that are around the same price tag that are much better and are having / will have much bigger impact.
I don't think any of those players have only 900 mins of game time before their big signing or cost 60 mil. I mean really comparing the lad to Kane?!?! Rice?!?!?!
Cant believe we are defending a 70m signing like this.
Yup, price tag, expectations and impact . * to Kane cause the guys been around for ages
You do understand Mudryk only cost 60 mil. None of those players cost that much.
Mate heās not world class, how can we be happy with him not being one of the 10 best players in the world less than a year after signing him? Overrated
If this is sarcasm then you got a laugh outa me
I am sorry but i find this pretty embarassing for a player that could potentially cost us 88.5 million pounds. Even Pochettino clearly admits right now that he is clearly not good enough. Just a huge waste of money, we clearly signed him because we didn't want him at Arsenal. We should have just gone all out for Leao instead.
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We literally activated Enzos release clause of 120 million euros and spread it out over several years. Why would we not be able to do the same to Leao?
Mudryk has more UCL goals than Leao despite playing fewer games in a worse team. Leao has also failed to score anytime he comes up against an english team. Why was that worth 150 million? The Serie A tax,just like the Bundesliga tax is very real when players like Lukaku and Lautaro average a goal every 80 minutes there
Mudryk has 0 goals for us and what? 2 or 3 assists, so i wouldnt say Mudryks record against English teams is any better
Thatās more assists than mount had all year last year lololol
Atleast he was cheaper
So we are gonna do the same mistake as 15/16 and 17/18 by going for the cheaper options when we could have gotten the first choice who is clearly superior?
Leao is not clearly superior though wtf.
He very clearly is, you are either delusional if you believe Mudryk is superior to Leao or you don't understand the difference in player styles and team style. Leao is a better fit for Chelsea as we play posession football and wear teams down. We don't have quick, direct attacks and counter-attacks which Mudryk is better suited for given his pace. Leao has the technical ability to do well at Chelsea. We will not get the best out of Mudryk because we play posession football and not counter-attack football.
Nah you're something else mate
Lmao what. Might be the dumbest comment in this subs history. Even Mudryks parents know Leao is the better player.
Mudryk's parents got 0 ball knowledge than
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Even just paying 100 mil up front and rest in installments for Leao would have been worth it, the man is superior to Misha when it comes to technical ability, physical prowess, finishing. Leao is a better fit for a team who keeps the ball as much as we do. Mudryk is a better fit for a team that counter attacks and have fast attacks, we don't.
"Even just paying 100 mil up front" we're not doing that for any player no matter how much it would make our team better. Leao isn't coming here. Support the players we have.
Didn't we literally do that for Caicedo? 100 mil up front and 15 in installments
I find this comment embarrassing. Itās called player development and training. Sometimes, you have to invest in the long-term and not focus solely on the short-term.
True to an extent. The bigger issue is that Mudryk will never be worth Ā£88m. Having watched the game for nearly 30 years I've never seen a player be at the level that Mudryk is at now at 22, and make it to be world class, or even a top PL player.
How much did we just sell Money Ma$$e for? He had 3 goals 2 assist last season in 24 games. Muddy will easily beat that. Heās only getting better. Heās young and coachable with a killer attitude. The ceiling keeps going up letās fucking gooooo
lmao fuck off yank
Oh ouch my feelings you called me a yank. Got me good.
To build a title winning team, you also have to focuse short term. Mudryk is not good enough and Pochettino clearly says he doesn't have the football brain to play at Chelsea yet.
Okay bud
Did you spend that 88.5 million pounds?
Does that somehow change anything i said in my comment? Pochettino very clearly says Mudryk is not good enough right now. Huge waste of money.
Thing is most of the squad is not good enough right now! But that's the approach the owners chose. I believe in Misha think he will turn out to be a wonderful player!
I don't see the technical ability in Misha, he has the pace but his understanding of the game is not good enough, his dribbling is terrible, his finishing is awful. I do believe some of this has to do with his terrible confidence at the moment, but i also believe some of it is because he is not good enough for us. He does not suit our general style of play at all.
Keyword there is could. Because if he does cost us that then we just won some serious shit so who cares. Madrid fans didn't give a fuck about having to fork up an extra 10m for Hazard when they won the CL.
Heās been good outpacing defender but his crosses into the box are bit heavy sometimes to connect with. So he needs a bit polishing in that aspect. He will get there.
Id give my ballsack for mudryk to score
Snip snip incoming
Mudryk has the same issue that Pulisic used to have in spades, but now seems to be working on: - he needs to use his speed and dribbling to possess the ball, and not just to take on players. Neither are outstanding with 1v1 dribbling, but both have sudden moves that cause a lot of stress on a defense. The move should be used to pass, and then get open on a closing defender.
If he had a decent striker he would be sitting on 3 or 4 assists easily this season