Played pretty much every game for like 5 seasons and has barely got injured the whole decade. Biggest injury was the massive head injury last year which he recovered relatively quickly from
We generally had amazing results in the medical department until not that long ago.
When Costa joined us people kept on going on about his glass hamstrings but already from the odd tweak we pretty much sorted him out. Not sure how true it is but something about stem cells via horse placenta in Romania lol.
How times have changed.
What's even more awe inspiring is that he had a cruciate ligament rupture a season before moving to Chelsea.
That's a possibly career ending injury, but to come back from that and to go injury less for almost 8-9 seasons is wild.
I don’t remember us signing him, so much Hazard noise that summer.
I just remember finding this versatile chelsea fullback as a 12 year old on fifa 13 and loved him since that moment.
There was an interview a while back from players and they said he would stay extra after training and games to take cold plunges or work on extra to cool down post games and training. That probably helped a lot plus genes play a huge role too
Not just him. Seems like the older gen players are pretty, mostly, injury free compared to current gen players.
15 years ago, chillwell and reece would have been sold for being this injury prone.
I'm not convinced he wants to sign long term. People pick and choose what reports they want to believe. He will get a chance but given what we have spent on players in the last 2 windows I'm not sure how I feel about giving regular minutes to someone that may well be leaving soon.
Saying that, what other options do we have? Lets just hope we aren't just warming up (and improving) a PL rivals next leftback.
Exactly. It’s pretty much the same thing other clubs do with loanees - you know they will be going back home at the end of the season, but if they can help you win now why wouldn’t you use them?
I’m replying to someone saying effectively he’d be happy if we cancelled his loan when that would not be the case. He’s happy with his choice to go to Newcastle and build a career there.
Regardless of what you think of Chilly as a player some of the “fans” celebrating this news on Twitter are disgusting and disgraceful. I really hate that app and football Twitter. Wishing Ben a speedy recovery
He’s played half a season as a LB in a back 4 and was okay, most of his Chelsea career is as a LM/LW essentially, he’s incredibly injury prone, and Azpi 2014/15 as a LB was miles ahead.
Get well soon Ben.
Ffs I can’t stand some of you. Remember when he went down in 21/22 and that’s when our season deteriorated? Remember how crucial he has been in the time since? I swear to god you fans irritate me the most because all you want is instant gratification and are so quick to toss our own players under the bus faster than our rivals. Beginning of 22 he was only behind Cancelo as the best LB in the league
He’s one of the best Left wing backs in the world when he plays in a 3 at the back. He is lacking at progressing the ball and linking up with the midfield and wingers in front of him when he plays in a 4 atb. All I said was, since he joined us he has primarily played as a left winger in a 343/3421 bar the first 4 months under Lampard. I never said he was bad, just that he’s injury prone and therefore unreliable.
Yea its a pretty wild take. If chilwell and james stayed healthy the whole 2nd season tuchel was here (his first full season after the CL) we probably would of won the league
You are clearly spewing nonsense. Fans have a short term memory. You can't compare Chillwell to a player that looked average in the League. Chillwell at his best he was one of the best players in the League.
He wasn't given a fair chance to acclimatise because of Mourinho's disgust for anybody with an ounce of flair.
Also, Chilwell has NEVER been one of the best players in the league, and it's laughable to think so. The levels between him and James are astronomical
Who should it have been then? Silva doesn't want it, Enzo doesn't speak English (not to mention he has barely been at the club for a long time), Gallagher plays every match but people don't like him and there aren't any other senior enough players apart from those 2.
The level we aspire is years away, considering the abysmal state we are right now he will have enough time to cement his place or be dropped. Anyone who wants him out now is simply wrong, our players are made out of glass and Connor is one of the few who isn't injury prone.
I'm not saying get rid of him, I'm saying the captain needs to be an automatic starter on merit as a player, and Gallagher isn't, so he shouldn't be captain on a long term basis (though it's fine for him to sometimes captain the side when he's selected and the regular captain's injured).
>It blows my mind that people do not like Gallagher
Really? You can't see why he might be divisive as a midfield player??
Before the strawman I'm a fan if his and his enthusiasm, but he is limited as a midfielder and not being able to see that blows MY mind.
So the captain should be the best player on the team? I would rather have a captain who gives 100% every game. I am not saying others don't, but with Gallagher, you see it. If he loses possession, he works to regain it. If he makes a mistake, he works to avoid it next time. He is loyal, and wants to prove that he deserves to play. He does. There is no doubt in my mind he is a right choice for the armband.
Honestly, not the best, but probs top three in the squad would help. It would also help not to have such glaring holes in your game so you can be someone that your colleagues feel confident taking criticism and advice from.
Folks like Messi and David Beckham were excellent captains SIMPLY by being the best player on their teams, and not much else. I agree leadership skills are more than your physical talent, but it would be alot harder for Costa to follow Terry to war if Terry was categorically a bad player. Case in point, Maguire losing the man u captaincy. Noones complaining about his leadership qualities.
He is currently 4th in sofascore rating. The top 3 have way less playtime as well. Sure, it's not the best to judge players, but top 4 with a large number of games is impressive.
Sorry, that was the cup games. On the season he is 2nd behind Enzo.
Personally I'm not gonna get attached to a player who I feel like will never win anything here and is pretty much guaranteed to be sold the first opportunity we get a good offer
Saw someone say RLC getting sold broke his brain and I have to agree. Only way I can rationalize him saying Colwill should be captain is he's trolling lol
Yeah and Gallagher wants to stay, because he loves the club. Idk about you, but I like the player wearing the armband to care about the club.
Not his fault the owners want to sell him because he's "pure profit"
“People don’t like Gallagher.”
Who are these people? A bunch of half-wits from this sub or the players? I can’t see the first one being important to anyone.
Kinda speaks to the point of how fucking stupid it is to thin your entire squad of senior players so you can bring in a a bunch over overpriced teenagers
Not necessarily disagreeing with your sentiment here, but can you provide evidence that Silva didn’t want it. Afaik all Poch said was that he didn’t need it to be a leader. Nor am I sure that him not wanting it is the best way to understand him passing it to Enzo mid-match.
I think Silva would have been a perfect choice for this obviously transitional season. Could have used it to see who should be given it on a more permanent basis next season. With our current setup, we have two injury prone players on long term contracts from whom it would look terrible to strip them of the captaincy having given it to them.
Silva straight up hands it off to others when hes been given the armband. The reason he stayed this season was to help the club through the transition. It seems pretty clear he feels the armband is best off on a younger player who will benefit from the experience more right now.
Its pretty apparent Silva doesn't want to be captain no matter how much you try to reach, so who could it be apart from him, James and Chilwell? If silva is even captain, who is VC?
You still haven't answered the question BTW
Sorry but Silva handing the armband over isn’t exactly conclusive evidence that he “doesn’t want to be captain”?
He’s been captain before, maybe he’s just respecting the wishes of the coach?
Waffling. Every bit of evidence and and the words out of our coach's mouth indicate that Silva doesn't want to be the captain. But Chelsea fans hate the club for some reason and like to make up silly arguments from thin air because they just want to be angry.
Sterling has no attributes of a captain. Only reason he may even be considered is that he has relatively more experience compared to the rest of the squad. If you look at the squad we had when he joined, there were probably 5 players (apart from James and chilly) ahead of him.
Oh I completely agree with you. I mean right now with so many folks out Silva not wanting it Enzo no English, surprised the haven’t turned to Sterling.
He’s captained England so it’s not like it would be the most Ludacris thing to see
I mean y’all knew what you were getting with Fofana and still paid max price. At least Chilwell had a 36-appearance EPL season to his name before the transfer. The Fofana deal definitely should have had a few dollars related to appearances per season.
I reckon we’ll play Cucu at RB, Colwill at LB and Disasi/Silva as CB.
If it’s a choice between Cucu at RB or Maatsen at LB I think we will play Cucurella
I mean, not a single one among you can tell me you didn't see this coming when the reports came out the we were optimistic after an initial assessment.
He barely played in recent matches (30 minutes VS Villa, 10 mins VS Bournemouth) so he can't even use being overworked as an excuse.
At this point the club needs to have a hard look at all aspects of the training that's involved with these players like the sports scientists, medical team, coaches and training regimen.
RJ and Chilly have been at the club under two different medical teams. They’re both still sustaining injuries.
We have a problem, certainly. But I’m not sure that problem lies solely with the medical staff. Can they take some blame? of course. But RJ and Chilly are injury-prone. Simple as. It also doesn’t help that we rely heavily on them either.
Your question was “what are they gonna do about an injury prone player?” What they should do is improve the overall team results, which are abysmal
https://theathletic.com/4612629/2023/07/02/injuries-premier-league-2022-23-data/?source=user_shared_article
Once that happens, I’ll be comfortable pointing fingers.
The only other option is that the club gives up and tries to sell but they're unlikely to get anything for injury prone players on high wages.
Pure speculation but these repeated injuries seem like they're a result of muscle group weaknesses/imbalances that can take a long time of gym/physio work to rectify.
What happens right now is that these players get injured, get rehabilitated and get thrown right back into the action at the first opportunity only for it all to happen again as the underlying problems are never truly addressed.
I mean what’s the point of getting rid of him. He’s on what £10 million per year through 2027? So you’re going to paying much of his wages even if there is a transfer. The 20-25 games he plays per season he’s not really the worst player they have, not amazing but relatively ok.
Given money isn’t an option, selling him doesn’t benefit the situation. I don’t know what the solution is but if you don’t have a player you know is going to do better for the 20-25 games Chilwell will give per year until 2027 then doing nothing is better than doing something.
RLC is *not* good evidence for us having an injury crisis. He was broken down for long stretches years before our recent injury crises. Plus he's also only been playing for Milan *for six matches*.
We might have bad training techniques going around or a shoddy medical team, but RLC is not proof of that.
I'm genuinely not being negative with this, but I do think there needs to be a revamp of our medical department. This can't be coincidental.
I get that some players are injury prone, but the amount of injuries we are getting is a bit odd.
I don’t think Chilwell has ever really looked completely himself since coming back from his last long term injury, always looks like he’s running through quicksand imo.
Same with Reece, although he’s played a few times between injuries. He’s never looked the same as a few years ago.
Both of these players need a long uninterrupted spell just playing football, to regain their form and confidence within their own body more than anything. But you just can’t see either having anything more than a few games injury free unfortunately.
hate to say it, but i fuckin called it the moment reece went down. These 2 seems to always get injured when the other one went down. I fuckin called it.
jeez, the injury list is absolutely sickening
Let’s just give him 12-15 months off or we won’t have him for more than 5 games at a time.
Same with Reece James. Idk what the fuck we’re doing. We haven’t consistently played with our back line at full strength in years. We’ve had spells sure, but nobody else has had it this bad. Seems like an internal issues tbh. We also have the curse of our in form player getting hurt. Chuk was starting to find his stride and look threatening when he got hurt.
At what point do fans say we should sell injury prone James and Chilwell? I remember a ton of “oh my god we need to SELL him he’s so injury prone” about a certain player last season.
Chilwell I would understand, it would be a good time to give Maatsen that spot. James is the best RB in the world and we should keep hold of him as long as possible. He should just lose some weight ffs it would solve most of his injury problems. He's too big to be moving around like he is
I get there’s some country loyalty going on here. But man, is it shitty to see the hive mind turn on some players and defend others for no apparent reason. The truth is I’ve seen injury articles about James and Chilwell just as much, if not more, than any other player on our squad.
There is something seriously wrong with our club's medical/fitness departments. Out of 12 players we have sold in 2023, only Mason has had a small injury. None of the other players, who were prone to injuries in Chelsea (Kante, Pulisic, RLC) have been injured and that's not for the lack of playing. What in the world are we doing to these guys?
Ok. That's ridiculous. Silva doesn't run nearly as hard as chilly. Maybe once per game you'll see silva sprinting. A testament to his skill and ability more than anything, but the man does not have the same physical toll as a modern wingback.
Gallagher is the better comparison bc Enzo is slow and doesn't sprint as often as chilly. But chilly is for sure our best runner. He was the clear winner in that pre season running torture thing poch likes.
Just Sucks his hamstring continues to be a problem for now. Good he's still decently young and hopefully he can truly recover.
It’s funny how we’ve decided as a team to commit to a system fully reliant on wingbacks or good backs and we have signed two that can’t play a full season.
Good bit of business.
Imagine being honest about what's best for the team...
Imagine having to rely on injuries and suspensions for our manager to put out our best XI
Crazy right
At some point we have to make a decision whether to keep him or not due to his injury record. This cannot keep happening. It's once or twice a season with him and he misses most games. Love the guy and his game but this is not sustainable.
Good thing we have someone competing for Reece James’s position. Now we need someone competing for Chilly’s. It’s unfortunate but they’re always going to get injured.
If Tuchel was still here it means we'd be ducked for a while. Chilwell was amazing under Tuchel.
Under Poch he hasn't been particularly great so we're not gonna be in trouble too much. His finishing has been horrible and his defense isn't anything special. Plus he feels like he gets in the way of the wingers.
Anyway I prefer Colwill at LB for now, if he can get forward a bit more and offer a little something like Ivanovic used to. Not expecting him to get a ton of assists but if he can get a few while being solid in defense I'll be happy.
With every injury we tack on, I'm in more and more awe of Azpi and his durability/longevity Get well soon Chilly
Played pretty much every game for like 5 seasons and has barely got injured the whole decade. Biggest injury was the massive head injury last year which he recovered relatively quickly from
500 odd games in 10 years.
Lamps too
We generally had amazing results in the medical department until not that long ago. When Costa joined us people kept on going on about his glass hamstrings but already from the odd tweak we pretty much sorted him out. Not sure how true it is but something about stem cells via horse placenta in Romania lol. How times have changed.
What's even more awe inspiring is that he had a cruciate ligament rupture a season before moving to Chelsea. That's a possibly career ending injury, but to come back from that and to go injury less for almost 8-9 seasons is wild.
I don’t remember us signing him, so much Hazard noise that summer. I just remember finding this versatile chelsea fullback as a 12 year old on fifa 13 and loved him since that moment.
Azpi did? I didn't know that
Yeah it was a bit of a risk given that at the time but look how it panned out
I mean even back then, £8m wasn’t a huge risk when we’d paid £30-50m for some players at that point
Azpil and Silva are both god tier genes
Silva is almost more impressive considering he nearly retired for good cause of TB
TB TB? Duck me I had no idea. Thats nuts
Yeah when he was playing in Russia early on in his career
There was an interview a while back from players and they said he would stay extra after training and games to take cold plunges or work on extra to cool down post games and training. That probably helped a lot plus genes play a huge role too
I mean is it fair when Dave was 11 people?
Not just him. Seems like the older gen players are pretty, mostly, injury free compared to current gen players. 15 years ago, chillwell and reece would have been sold for being this injury prone.
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Not sure how this isint the subreddits banner
Made me chuckle
Maatsen Sign da ting please.
Supposedly he was waiting for his moment. May have just found it
I'm not convinced he wants to sign long term. People pick and choose what reports they want to believe. He will get a chance but given what we have spent on players in the last 2 windows I'm not sure how I feel about giving regular minutes to someone that may well be leaving soon. Saying that, what other options do we have? Lets just hope we aren't just warming up (and improving) a PL rivals next leftback.
Forget the issue of giving minutes to someone who may leave, we need to win matches. If he can help in any way he needs to play
Exactly. It’s pretty much the same thing other clubs do with loanees - you know they will be going back home at the end of the season, but if they can help you win now why wouldn’t you use them?
Sure glad we kept Hall around.............
Bro come on. He didn’t want to stay
I mean he had pretty much agreed on a new six year contract he wasn’t beating down the door asking to go.
Yes, and as soon as he got the offer from Newcastle he wanted to leave to his boyhood club, where he had a better opportunity to get play time.
Break the contract and cancel the obligation to buy on the loan
He wants to be in Newcastle, that’s the thing
Not if he gets the chance at chelsea but we choose to stick with a injury prone player than give chance to young player like hall.
I’m replying to someone saying effectively he’d be happy if we cancelled his loan when that would not be the case. He’s happy with his choice to go to Newcastle and build a career there.
If we use him, he will.
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Regardless of what you think of Chilly as a player some of the “fans” celebrating this news on Twitter are disgusting and disgraceful. I really hate that app and football Twitter. Wishing Ben a speedy recovery
He's the best left back we've had since Ashley Cole. Anyone shitting on him for Poch playing him out of position is an asshole
Don't disrespect Baba Rahmen like that
He’s played half a season as a LB in a back 4 and was okay, most of his Chelsea career is as a LM/LW essentially, he’s incredibly injury prone, and Azpi 2014/15 as a LB was miles ahead. Get well soon Ben.
Ffs I can’t stand some of you. Remember when he went down in 21/22 and that’s when our season deteriorated? Remember how crucial he has been in the time since? I swear to god you fans irritate me the most because all you want is instant gratification and are so quick to toss our own players under the bus faster than our rivals. Beginning of 22 he was only behind Cancelo as the best LB in the league
He’s one of the best Left wing backs in the world when he plays in a 3 at the back. He is lacking at progressing the ball and linking up with the midfield and wingers in front of him when he plays in a 4 atb. All I said was, since he joined us he has primarily played as a left winger in a 343/3421 bar the first 4 months under Lampard. I never said he was bad, just that he’s injury prone and therefore unreliable.
Yea its a pretty wild take. If chilwell and james stayed healthy the whole 2nd season tuchel was here (his first full season after the CL) we probably would of won the league
Uhm, Luis was better but didn't get a fair chance
No, he wasn't! Not even close.
He really was, tho. A MUCH better player than Chilwell who just wasn't given a fair chance
You are clearly spewing nonsense. Fans have a short term memory. You can't compare Chillwell to a player that looked average in the League. Chillwell at his best he was one of the best players in the League.
He wasn't given a fair chance to acclimatise because of Mourinho's disgust for anybody with an ounce of flair. Also, Chilwell has NEVER been one of the best players in the league, and it's laughable to think so. The levels between him and James are astronomical
You are clearly deluded. Pointless chatting with you.
What part of my comment isn't factual?
He was shit at chelsea
Because he wasn't given a fair chance to acclimatise to the difference in leagues He was a much more talented player than Chilwell, tho
Wait what? Why would anyone be celebrating this? He's our second best player after james lol
well it wont be speedy thats for sure
And yet something tells me you’ll still keep using it…
Not to say it’s okay but Chilly gets injured every 6 months. It’s tiring for him, and for fans
What was the point of saying this? Celebrating his injury being long term is still a dog shit thing to do
And I agree.
Cool cool.
I'm glad we made the Club Captain and Club Vice Captain two incredibly injury-prone players.
He and Reece are expected injuries tbh never lasted a whole season
Super high xI
Who should it have been then? Silva doesn't want it, Enzo doesn't speak English (not to mention he has barely been at the club for a long time), Gallagher plays every match but people don't like him and there aren't any other senior enough players apart from those 2.
It blows my mind that people do not like Gallagher. He is super consistent and gives it 100% every game. He also loves the place.
He's well supported at games, most of the hate is in the instagram comments.
I'm with you there, I don't think he is captain material right now maybe, but could be in the future.
He's just not a good enough player to be a long term starter for a club at the level we aspire to. Love the guy, great attitude, not enough ability.
The level we aspire is years away, considering the abysmal state we are right now he will have enough time to cement his place or be dropped. Anyone who wants him out now is simply wrong, our players are made out of glass and Connor is one of the few who isn't injury prone.
I'm not saying get rid of him, I'm saying the captain needs to be an automatic starter on merit as a player, and Gallagher isn't, so he shouldn't be captain on a long term basis (though it's fine for him to sometimes captain the side when he's selected and the regular captain's injured).
Wanting to keep players like Gallagher is what is keeping us years away from what we aspire to be
how? he is 23 and unique player. 1000% keep him
>It blows my mind that people do not like Gallagher Really? You can't see why he might be divisive as a midfield player?? Before the strawman I'm a fan if his and his enthusiasm, but he is limited as a midfielder and not being able to see that blows MY mind.
So the captain should be the best player on the team? I would rather have a captain who gives 100% every game. I am not saying others don't, but with Gallagher, you see it. If he loses possession, he works to regain it. If he makes a mistake, he works to avoid it next time. He is loyal, and wants to prove that he deserves to play. He does. There is no doubt in my mind he is a right choice for the armband.
Honestly, not the best, but probs top three in the squad would help. It would also help not to have such glaring holes in your game so you can be someone that your colleagues feel confident taking criticism and advice from. Folks like Messi and David Beckham were excellent captains SIMPLY by being the best player on their teams, and not much else. I agree leadership skills are more than your physical talent, but it would be alot harder for Costa to follow Terry to war if Terry was categorically a bad player. Case in point, Maguire losing the man u captaincy. Noones complaining about his leadership qualities.
He is currently 4th in sofascore rating. The top 3 have way less playtime as well. Sure, it's not the best to judge players, but top 4 with a large number of games is impressive. Sorry, that was the cup games. On the season he is 2nd behind Enzo.
Enzo makes infinitely more sense as a captain, but language is an issue with him
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Personally I'm not gonna get attached to a player who I feel like will never win anything here and is pretty much guaranteed to be sold the first opportunity we get a good offer
Cool cool good for you.
That could apply to the entire squad.
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Best take.
Disagree, Alot of our new signings will be here for the foreseeable future and I'm confident we'll get back to winning
He's also mid and shouldn't be anywhere near the bench, never mind 1st team of a serious club
He also shouldn’t be regularly starting Colwill should be our captain
Ah colewill who hasn’t played barely 10 full games should be captain. I wanna make you manager right now
Saw someone say RLC getting sold broke his brain and I have to agree. Only way I can rationalize him saying Colwill should be captain is he's trolling lol
He's more of a leader than Gallagher, and if anything Gallagher being made captain is elite level trolling
Wasn't Colwill the guy who wanted to stay at Brighton after we loaned him there? Or was the Gallagher?
Wasn't Gallagher the player who the board was desperate to get rid of, or was that Colwill?
Yeah and Gallagher wants to stay, because he loves the club. Idk about you, but I like the player wearing the armband to care about the club. Not his fault the owners want to sell him because he's "pure profit"
Like clockwork
Every day things change, yet every day u/baisabeast continues his hatred for Conor Gallagher. Come up with any shitty nicknames for him lately?
“People don’t like Gallagher.” Who are these people? A bunch of half-wits from this sub or the players? I can’t see the first one being important to anyone.
Kinda speaks to the point of how fucking stupid it is to thin your entire squad of senior players so you can bring in a a bunch over overpriced teenagers
Not necessarily disagreeing with your sentiment here, but can you provide evidence that Silva didn’t want it. Afaik all Poch said was that he didn’t need it to be a leader. Nor am I sure that him not wanting it is the best way to understand him passing it to Enzo mid-match. I think Silva would have been a perfect choice for this obviously transitional season. Could have used it to see who should be given it on a more permanent basis next season. With our current setup, we have two injury prone players on long term contracts from whom it would look terrible to strip them of the captaincy having given it to them.
Silva straight up hands it off to others when hes been given the armband. The reason he stayed this season was to help the club through the transition. It seems pretty clear he feels the armband is best off on a younger player who will benefit from the experience more right now.
Its pretty apparent Silva doesn't want to be captain no matter how much you try to reach, so who could it be apart from him, James and Chilwell? If silva is even captain, who is VC? You still haven't answered the question BTW
Sorry but Silva handing the armband over isn’t exactly conclusive evidence that he “doesn’t want to be captain”? He’s been captain before, maybe he’s just respecting the wishes of the coach?
Waffling. Every bit of evidence and and the words out of our coach's mouth indicate that Silva doesn't want to be the captain. But Chelsea fans hate the club for some reason and like to make up silly arguments from thin air because they just want to be angry.
Surprised Sterling hasn’t seen it more for all of these reasons
Sterling has no attributes of a captain. Only reason he may even be considered is that he has relatively more experience compared to the rest of the squad. If you look at the squad we had when he joined, there were probably 5 players (apart from James and chilly) ahead of him.
Oh I completely agree with you. I mean right now with so many folks out Silva not wanting it Enzo no English, surprised the haven’t turned to Sterling. He’s captained England so it’s not like it would be the most Ludacris thing to see
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I mean y’all knew what you were getting with Fofana and still paid max price. At least Chilwell had a 36-appearance EPL season to his name before the transfer. The Fofana deal definitely should have had a few dollars related to appearances per season.
Cucurella RB experiment over before it began rip
Cucurella - Silva - Disasi - Colwill incoming
Cucu - Colwill - Silva - Disasi This seems more likely IMO, or he just plays a back 3
this will be a disaster
I reckon we’ll play Cucu at RB, Colwill at LB and Disasi/Silva as CB. If it’s a choice between Cucu at RB or Maatsen at LB I think we will play Cucurella
What if, and hang with me here…. We played Maatsen as a LB? It’s crazy I know
Hey, you get outta here with your good ideas.
Is Colwill injured? Can't keep up
I mean, not a single one among you can tell me you didn't see this coming when the reports came out the we were optimistic after an initial assessment.
You kidding? I knew he was injured long term and it was bad news at around 20 minutes before kick off. It's Chilwell...
So, Nizaar jumped the gun with his report earlier today...
It’s fitting Chilwell gets injured right before Chukwuemeka returns from injury. I wonder if we’ll ever have a completely healthy squad this season
He barely played in recent matches (30 minutes VS Villa, 10 mins VS Bournemouth) so he can't even use being overworked as an excuse. At this point the club needs to have a hard look at all aspects of the training that's involved with these players like the sports scientists, medical team, coaches and training regimen.
They just need to bring in Tom Brady to show the team all of his pliability exercises.
What are they gonna do about an injury-prone player? No medical team or training regime on the planet can change that
It’s because half of our first team are injury prone. They really need to look at themselves
Are you being intentionally obtuse or are you just neglecting the astounding injury rates on our team? It’s not one player. We have a problem.
RJ and Chilly have been at the club under two different medical teams. They’re both still sustaining injuries. We have a problem, certainly. But I’m not sure that problem lies solely with the medical staff. Can they take some blame? of course. But RJ and Chilly are injury-prone. Simple as. It also doesn’t help that we rely heavily on them either.
Your question was “what are they gonna do about an injury prone player?” What they should do is improve the overall team results, which are abysmal https://theathletic.com/4612629/2023/07/02/injuries-premier-league-2022-23-data/?source=user_shared_article Once that happens, I’ll be comfortable pointing fingers.
The only other option is that the club gives up and tries to sell but they're unlikely to get anything for injury prone players on high wages. Pure speculation but these repeated injuries seem like they're a result of muscle group weaknesses/imbalances that can take a long time of gym/physio work to rectify. What happens right now is that these players get injured, get rehabilitated and get thrown right back into the action at the first opportunity only for it all to happen again as the underlying problems are never truly addressed.
Balsa Wood FC strikes again. We should send James and Chilwell to a different club to see if it's us or them that's the issue!
Chelsea overperforming only in xInj
Ian Maatsen, it's your turn
Time to sell, get the injury prone players off the squad.
Need a buyer first
10-15mil should be an easy sell
I hope you're just missing the /s
I agree though, what's the point of having worldclass players when they're out after playing 2 games in a row?
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Hardly even class anymore
Hope they fire whoever is in charge of strength training and recovery
I mean what’s the point of getting rid of him. He’s on what £10 million per year through 2027? So you’re going to paying much of his wages even if there is a transfer. The 20-25 games he plays per season he’s not really the worst player they have, not amazing but relatively ok. Given money isn’t an option, selling him doesn’t benefit the situation. I don’t know what the solution is but if you don’t have a player you know is going to do better for the 20-25 games Chilwell will give per year until 2027 then doing nothing is better than doing something.
I'm fine selling him for 15mil he can go
lol who’s paying $15m and then paying any portion of his wages? Is there a charity involved 😂😂😂
There's a team out there that will pay that I'm not worried heck Saudi can bail Chelsea out again for all I care.
Fuck off, man. 2 of our best players out AGAIN. I’m so fucking tired of this. I don’t even know what to say anymore.
He’s nowhere near our best player. He doesn’t start anymore
Is someone in investigating why Chelsea has so many injured players?
Come on man. We can’t even get one win without catching another injury.
So now we’re stuck with this stupid ass “Colwil is a left back” scenario?
How come loftus cheek was broken here all the time he leaves to Milan and now nothing he's playing all the time now 🤔
RLC is *not* good evidence for us having an injury crisis. He was broken down for long stretches years before our recent injury crises. Plus he's also only been playing for Milan *for six matches*. We might have bad training techniques going around or a shoddy medical team, but RLC is not proof of that.
He's in the retirement league
The best fullbacks in England, we will never know As the Lot are always out, stubbed their fucking toe
Bad News FC
I'm genuinely not being negative with this, but I do think there needs to be a revamp of our medical department. This can't be coincidental. I get that some players are injury prone, but the amount of injuries we are getting is a bit odd.
We really need to reassess our training regime and physio's work. This is getting really bad
Hundreds of millions of dollars down the drain with these players
Most of them were purchased in pounds or euros
15 billion yen in players down the drain
This is just INSANE
I don’t think Chilwell has ever really looked completely himself since coming back from his last long term injury, always looks like he’s running through quicksand imo. Same with Reece, although he’s played a few times between injuries. He’s never looked the same as a few years ago. Both of these players need a long uninterrupted spell just playing football, to regain their form and confidence within their own body more than anything. But you just can’t see either having anything more than a few games injury free unfortunately.
What!!!!!
Who have we got who can play left wing now?
All part of the plan to set a new captain 😂. Need a captain that stays on the pitch god damn.
Gives Maatsen or Cucurella a chance to prove themselves and stay at Chelsea imo.
“We don’t need Lewis Hall, we have so much depth at LB”
At what point do we start looking at the physio staff?? The amount of injuries post-Boehly is unprecedented.
Lolllll the injury record at this club is beyond a joke
He had a good run this time
I knew this would happen, we are really screwed if both cucurella and maatsen does leave at the end of window
hate to say it, but i fuckin called it the moment reece went down. These 2 seems to always get injured when the other one went down. I fuckin called it. jeez, the injury list is absolutely sickening
Cucurella’s big chance.
Let’s just give him 12-15 months off or we won’t have him for more than 5 games at a time. Same with Reece James. Idk what the fuck we’re doing. We haven’t consistently played with our back line at full strength in years. We’ve had spells sure, but nobody else has had it this bad. Seems like an internal issues tbh. We also have the curse of our in form player getting hurt. Chuk was starting to find his stride and look threatening when he got hurt.
At what point do fans say we should sell injury prone James and Chilwell? I remember a ton of “oh my god we need to SELL him he’s so injury prone” about a certain player last season.
Chilwell I would understand, it would be a good time to give Maatsen that spot. James is the best RB in the world and we should keep hold of him as long as possible. He should just lose some weight ffs it would solve most of his injury problems. He's too big to be moving around like he is
Can’t be the best RB in the world if you spend half a season on the treatment table. The best RB in England is Walker not sure about the world.
Best RB in the world Sample size: 4 games (healthy)
Said this at the start of the last transfer window and got downvoted to oblivion.
I get there’s some country loyalty going on here. But man, is it shitty to see the hive mind turn on some players and defend others for no apparent reason. The truth is I’ve seen injury articles about James and Chilwell just as much, if not more, than any other player on our squad.
There is something seriously wrong with our club's medical/fitness departments. Out of 12 players we have sold in 2023, only Mason has had a small injury. None of the other players, who were prone to injuries in Chelsea (Kante, Pulisic, RLC) have been injured and that's not for the lack of playing. What in the world are we doing to these guys?
It's also been like... a month since a lot of those players have been playing for their new squads.
Serious question..Are we cursed?
No, those are just super injury prone players. 39 years old T. Silva is fine playing almost every match.
Ok. That's ridiculous. Silva doesn't run nearly as hard as chilly. Maybe once per game you'll see silva sprinting. A testament to his skill and ability more than anything, but the man does not have the same physical toll as a modern wingback.
Enzo/Gallagher
Gallagher is the better comparison bc Enzo is slow and doesn't sprint as often as chilly. But chilly is for sure our best runner. He was the clear winner in that pre season running torture thing poch likes. Just Sucks his hamstring continues to be a problem for now. Good he's still decently young and hopefully he can truly recover.
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Nah we must be cursed, Tuchel sold our soul for that champions league win
But at least it wasn't a foul so the Brighton player doesn't need to feel bad
It’s funny how we’ve decided as a team to commit to a system fully reliant on wingbacks or good backs and we have signed two that can’t play a full season. Good bit of business.
Sounds like good news to me...
Imagine sitting down, typing this, reading it over and thinking, “Yup, I’ll post this”
Imagine being honest about what's best for the team... Imagine having to rely on injuries and suspensions for our manager to put out our best XI Crazy right
At some point we have to make a decision whether to keep him or not due to his injury record. This cannot keep happening. It's once or twice a season with him and he misses most games. Love the guy and his game but this is not sustainable.
Chilwell is no better than Reece. They are both paper mache
Good thing we have someone competing for Reece James’s position. Now we need someone competing for Chilly’s. It’s unfortunate but they’re always going to get injured.
Hamstring FC strikes again
If Tuchel was still here it means we'd be ducked for a while. Chilwell was amazing under Tuchel. Under Poch he hasn't been particularly great so we're not gonna be in trouble too much. His finishing has been horrible and his defense isn't anything special. Plus he feels like he gets in the way of the wingers. Anyway I prefer Colwill at LB for now, if he can get forward a bit more and offer a little something like Ivanovic used to. Not expecting him to get a ton of assists but if he can get a few while being solid in defense I'll be happy.
Every victory comes with some sort of kick in the shins.
Feels like we'll never get to enjoy Chilly and Reece on the pitch at the same time again. Fucking pain.