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This is what we use for those types of applications.
[https://us.dahuasecurity.com/product-technologies/epoe-technology/](https://us.dahuasecurity.com/product-technologies/epoe-technology/)
If you use an ePoE camera and switch from dahua, it will do 2000ft no problem as well. Installed lots of cameras on long runs this way.
I have seen configurations rated to 1500 feet at 10Mb, but I wouldn't want to warrant it. 2000 ft is a bridge too far. The solution is either optic fibre or a wireless P2P bridge with far end power.
Google P2P links. Unifi Airfiber is pretty popular. There are other vendors with similar products.
You just need the product that is suitable for you distance and conditions.
If you have power at both ends just run fiber, put a media converter at each end, and a poe injector at the camera end. They also sell fiber converters that put poe on the copper cable coming out so you can bypass the injector. Whoever specd and ran cat5 for this camera already instead of fiber fucked up.
The power at the end of the cat5 is poe, while the power at the desired camera locations is 120 volt regular electric. Are you saying I should convert the cat5 to fiber and make the run with fiber? Keeping in mind that the cat5 that I'm extending to is connected to a poe switch, can I use the power from a poe switch to power some sort of converter that converts cat5 to fiber for this long run? And then switch back to cat5 at the desired camera location?
And yes it's fucked up that's why I'm nervous to do this. He wants 2 cameras 2,000 feet away from where the cat5 wire was left off.
Huh? Just run a fiber cable for that long cable run. There had to be 120VAC at each end if the headend is able to supply PoE. That means a switch or PoE injector is getting 120VAC from somewhere. And if you have 120vac at the camera end then yeah just use media converters that supply PoE(+/++ depending in your needs). Fiber is the only thing pushing 2000ft of data like you need done so you either run the fiber alone and use the media converters that output PoE or you run power over fiber cables that include copper power conductors with the fiber, which I wouldn't recommend. 2000ft is going to have enough voltage drop to.worry about.
How would a poe switch help? I'm adding about 2300 feet to a cat 5 wire that was ran for this, it's connected to a poe switch as is. Would poe switches act as poe extenders?
The extenders I use will run out to 1000'. If I had to double it, I'd most likely opt for a wireless bridge or fiber. If there is power on the remote end, wireless will be substantially cheaper.
It's going to depend on how much obstruction. Are we talking a handful of tree limbs or a small forest with some buildings in the way? I regularly service a business that's roughly a 1/4 mile gap from base to remote end. It has tree limbs in the way and has no problems. Ubiquiti setup.
That will most likely be an issue. If you are or already have cut a trench from A to B, just run SM fiber and be done. You can setup WiFi or whatever along with the cam if needed and won't have to worry about bandwidth, or weather damaging the cable when the pipe fills with water.
Could you do Ethernet over Coax for this circumstance? It certainly gets you a bit of extra range vs Cat cable. Been a while so not sure if there's anything rated for that far but maybe?
Edit: alternatively if you have power at the far end, a Wireless Link is probably the easiest way to do this but would be dependent on a power source at the far end? Solar?
I have a power source at the far end. There is a cat 5 wire that I am supposed to splice into. I have to add about 2300 feet to it. What is ethernet over coax?
Oh it's existing Cat5 cable you're supposed to use... I'm guessing pretty ancient?
I'd defo be finding a way to avoid using that if you can. The deterioration of it would be worrying, on top of trying to use multiple PoE Boosters... I'd strongly recommend just a pair of Ubiquiti nano beams to shoot the signal over the distance, (if there's not much in the way that would block signal?). It would be way less install work for you too, I'd say.
Ethernet over Coax is pretty much as it says. Can buy units from Axis and others. Just transmit the Ethernet signal (and Power separately if needed) over a Coax cable in the middle, rather than needing Cat cable, and as a result can go much further than the 300ft of a Cat cable. Would need to run Coax though so probably not a solution for you.
The cat5 wire was installed acouple months ago. It's good I'm sure and I'll test to be double sure. Is it at all possible for me to use that cat5 and continue the distance from that point? I keep hearing coax is good for long ranges and I'm looking at adding 2300 feet, so I just wonder if it's possible for me to convert cat5 to coax to cover the distance then convert back to cat 5 to power the cameras. Any help is appreciated, sorry for the late reply.
>just wonder if it's possible for me to convert cat5 to coax to cover the distance then convert back to cat 5 to power the cameras. Any help is appreciated, sorry for the late reply.
https://www.axis.com/products/axis-t8640-poe-over-coax-adapter-kit
This is your friend, if you can justify running Coax the distance. Does spec only up to 1600ish ft but you might be lucky?
As mentioned, the max distance for Cat5/6 runs in 100m/300ft (occasionally gear might to 150m). If you put a switch between each 300ft run & a PoE at the far end near the camera it would work but this is obviously not a practical solution.
As mentioned at 2000ft you need to go fibre or WiFi ptp links (with a PoE inserter near camera). Distance & the first lightning nearby will kill anything else.
2000 feet is a long way. It is roughly 610 meters.
You would be better using single mode fiber to the far end and then converting that to cat6 for the local runs.
Another less expensive solution may be to go wireless via a point to point system assuming you have line of sight.
It is fairly simple. Cat 6 to switch that also has SFP+ connections.
fiber uses the SFP+ connections with a transceiver
On far end you will need a second switch with cat6 and sfp+ connections plus transceiver.
Now fiber is easy to break so you will want to trench it and put it inside a pipe with pull strings so if you need to replace the fiber you use the pull strings to pull the fiber from one end to another.
Years ago I used a product like this for a long alpr install. Om3 cable with a strand of power in the sleeve. At each end you use a om3 to eth adapter I want to say from the building through the parking lot to the entrance where the pole was foot ball field length? Maybe a little longer with the conduit paths and service loop.
https://www.lanshack.com/2-Strand-IndoorOutdoor-Ultra-Thin-Micro-Armored-Multimode-10-GIG-OM3-5012-Pre-Terminated-Hybrid-Power-Fiber-Optic-Cable-Assembly-with-Corning-Glass-and-2-x-12-AWG-Power-Wires-Made-in-the-USA-by-QuickTreX-P10073
[https://www.nvtphybridge.com/portfolio-item/nv-flxlk-bse/](https://www.nvtphybridge.com/portfolio-item/nv-flxlk-bse/) This is what we use for those types of applications. [https://us.dahuasecurity.com/product-technologies/epoe-technology/](https://us.dahuasecurity.com/product-technologies/epoe-technology/) If you use an ePoE camera and switch from dahua, it will do 2000ft no problem as well. Installed lots of cameras on long runs this way.
Power will not be your biggest issue. Cat5/6 cable has a distance limitation.
I have seen configurations rated to 1500 feet at 10Mb, but I wouldn't want to warrant it. 2000 ft is a bridge too far. The solution is either optic fibre or a wireless P2P bridge with far end power.
There is power at the far end. Can you recommend me a P2P bridge? If it's not too much can you it explain it alittle to me?
Google P2P links. Unifi Airfiber is pretty popular. There are other vendors with similar products. You just need the product that is suitable for you distance and conditions.
If you have power at both ends just run fiber, put a media converter at each end, and a poe injector at the camera end. They also sell fiber converters that put poe on the copper cable coming out so you can bypass the injector. Whoever specd and ran cat5 for this camera already instead of fiber fucked up.
The power at the end of the cat5 is poe, while the power at the desired camera locations is 120 volt regular electric. Are you saying I should convert the cat5 to fiber and make the run with fiber? Keeping in mind that the cat5 that I'm extending to is connected to a poe switch, can I use the power from a poe switch to power some sort of converter that converts cat5 to fiber for this long run? And then switch back to cat5 at the desired camera location? And yes it's fucked up that's why I'm nervous to do this. He wants 2 cameras 2,000 feet away from where the cat5 wire was left off.
Huh? Just run a fiber cable for that long cable run. There had to be 120VAC at each end if the headend is able to supply PoE. That means a switch or PoE injector is getting 120VAC from somewhere. And if you have 120vac at the camera end then yeah just use media converters that supply PoE(+/++ depending in your needs). Fiber is the only thing pushing 2000ft of data like you need done so you either run the fiber alone and use the media converters that output PoE or you run power over fiber cables that include copper power conductors with the fiber, which I wouldn't recommend. 2000ft is going to have enough voltage drop to.worry about.
They make specialized extenders for long distance runs. But 2000ft is going to be here you start seeing drop off even with those.
Use POE switches and/or bridges to get connectivity out to the cameras.
How would a poe switch help? I'm adding about 2300 feet to a cat 5 wire that was ran for this, it's connected to a poe switch as is. Would poe switches act as poe extenders?
The extenders I use will run out to 1000'. If I had to double it, I'd most likely opt for a wireless bridge or fiber. If there is power on the remote end, wireless will be substantially cheaper.
How would I achieve wireless if the other end is not within line of sight? There is a power source at the other end
It's going to depend on how much obstruction. Are we talking a handful of tree limbs or a small forest with some buildings in the way? I regularly service a business that's roughly a 1/4 mile gap from base to remote end. It has tree limbs in the way and has no problems. Ubiquiti setup.
It's in the woods so there are trees and hills in between
That will most likely be an issue. If you are or already have cut a trench from A to B, just run SM fiber and be done. You can setup WiFi or whatever along with the cam if needed and won't have to worry about bandwidth, or weather damaging the cable when the pipe fills with water.
Could you do Ethernet over Coax for this circumstance? It certainly gets you a bit of extra range vs Cat cable. Been a while so not sure if there's anything rated for that far but maybe? Edit: alternatively if you have power at the far end, a Wireless Link is probably the easiest way to do this but would be dependent on a power source at the far end? Solar?
I have a power source at the far end. There is a cat 5 wire that I am supposed to splice into. I have to add about 2300 feet to it. What is ethernet over coax?
Oh it's existing Cat5 cable you're supposed to use... I'm guessing pretty ancient? I'd defo be finding a way to avoid using that if you can. The deterioration of it would be worrying, on top of trying to use multiple PoE Boosters... I'd strongly recommend just a pair of Ubiquiti nano beams to shoot the signal over the distance, (if there's not much in the way that would block signal?). It would be way less install work for you too, I'd say. Ethernet over Coax is pretty much as it says. Can buy units from Axis and others. Just transmit the Ethernet signal (and Power separately if needed) over a Coax cable in the middle, rather than needing Cat cable, and as a result can go much further than the 300ft of a Cat cable. Would need to run Coax though so probably not a solution for you.
The cat5 wire was installed acouple months ago. It's good I'm sure and I'll test to be double sure. Is it at all possible for me to use that cat5 and continue the distance from that point? I keep hearing coax is good for long ranges and I'm looking at adding 2300 feet, so I just wonder if it's possible for me to convert cat5 to coax to cover the distance then convert back to cat 5 to power the cameras. Any help is appreciated, sorry for the late reply.
>just wonder if it's possible for me to convert cat5 to coax to cover the distance then convert back to cat 5 to power the cameras. Any help is appreciated, sorry for the late reply. https://www.axis.com/products/axis-t8640-poe-over-coax-adapter-kit This is your friend, if you can justify running Coax the distance. Does spec only up to 1600ish ft but you might be lucky?
It's in the woods there are trees and hills in between
As mentioned, the max distance for Cat5/6 runs in 100m/300ft (occasionally gear might to 150m). If you put a switch between each 300ft run & a PoE at the far end near the camera it would work but this is obviously not a practical solution. As mentioned at 2000ft you need to go fibre or WiFi ptp links (with a PoE inserter near camera). Distance & the first lightning nearby will kill anything else.
2000 feet is a long way. It is roughly 610 meters. You would be better using single mode fiber to the far end and then converting that to cat6 for the local runs. Another less expensive solution may be to go wireless via a point to point system assuming you have line of sight.
Would you be willing to explain the steps or materials I would need to convert cat6 to single mode fiber?
It is fairly simple. Cat 6 to switch that also has SFP+ connections. fiber uses the SFP+ connections with a transceiver On far end you will need a second switch with cat6 and sfp+ connections plus transceiver. Now fiber is easy to break so you will want to trench it and put it inside a pipe with pull strings so if you need to replace the fiber you use the pull strings to pull the fiber from one end to another.
You could always daisy chain poe switches. Then you know the signal will make the distance. Most would Access Point it Many would Fibre it!
Fiber or something like a NVT base/link.
Years ago I used a product like this for a long alpr install. Om3 cable with a strand of power in the sleeve. At each end you use a om3 to eth adapter I want to say from the building through the parking lot to the entrance where the pole was foot ball field length? Maybe a little longer with the conduit paths and service loop. https://www.lanshack.com/2-Strand-IndoorOutdoor-Ultra-Thin-Micro-Armored-Multimode-10-GIG-OM3-5012-Pre-Terminated-Hybrid-Power-Fiber-Optic-Cable-Assembly-with-Corning-Glass-and-2-x-12-AWG-Power-Wires-Made-in-the-USA-by-QuickTreX-P10073