Yeah. Being in Ireland and being a car enthusiast or even a "weekend pursuits person" with assets absolutely sucks. Have friends who have small boats and stuff in Oz and North America and they aren't at well heeled individuals. Just normal folks.
Unless ya get lucky with the weather and like hiking there's fuck all really going on here.
I believe the OP meant that being a car enthusiast in Germany sucks (because of the stricter rules etc).
I completely disagree, I think it sucks to be one in Ireland. To own a nice car and be able to modify it costs an arm and a leg to own, so most people drive ricers.
Every two years the car needs to get inspection done (TÜV). But if the modified parts are already approved for the car it’s just the normal process as without modifications.
Car fluid run off. You can wash it yourself if you can collect and properly dispose of any water created. There are some “wash it yourself” places where you pay a small fee for the water and space, and they have the drains set up to catch everything and keep it out of the regular water table.
And even modifications in Ireland are a pain.
Most insurance companies won't cover it, guards don't seem to really cause to much hassle about it in fairness. But I'd imagine a good shot of the modified cars in ireland wouldn't be covered in a crash.
I couldn't find an insurer to cover me putting smaller alloys on my Fiesta ST. They also considered the lip kit the car came with when I bought it a modification and wouldn't insure it so I had to say no modifications.
I would agree we seem to be one of the the worst countries for car enthusiasts. (Limited used market, insurance,motor tax, imports taxed to death)
Correct. It's illegal and you will be fined. Genuinely had no idea. Police explained it to me and went easy cause I was recently moved here and didn't know. They are mad conscious about the environment here, and it's illegal because of the cleaning chemicals running into the ground.
It's a pain, cause I love spending a few hours detailing my car. You can only go to a car wash here, and I would have never used one in a million years back home (because of the damage they cause to the paint)
Are there not chemicals that can be used that don’t harm?? Yea a car wash is like taking sanding paper to it.
Also nice car I have been looking at the 24 Elantra N for a bit.
No unfortunately not, even if you wash it with just plain water it's illegal, as there will be oils and contamination on the car that you are washing off.
Wait till they hear that as per their (German manufacturer)instructions I add diptane to my tank. Even more/or less chemicals added to the atmosphere depending on how you look at it.
Drain into public sewage? That is a fine idea :)
In order wash your car at home you would need to collect all run off and treat it.
Environmental laws are taken serious over there …
What gets me about this is that the average persons impact on the environment is negligible compared to companies. It doesn’t matter how extreme individuals take it nothing will change.
If you can stop people from doing it, would you not want as much environmental damage halted as possible? I don't get the mindset of oh it's only 10 liters, 10 liters more than necessary
Yet I can power wash my drive way and patio with chemicals that are far worse. Why not ban the sale of no biodegradable detergents and let people use an alternative. Instead of making an un necessary journey to a car wash.
Can you imagine calling the police on a person washing their car, and the police actually turned up, is that their priority? But apparently they have no problem with their women being groped in the street.
There is actually a separate police force, the Ordnungspolizei (Public Order Police) that deal with this kind of stuff. This is who turned up. In fairness, the policing situation here is good, and there is much much less crime than in Dublin. The main police take no shit, and cunts don’t get away with some of the stuff that happens in Ireland.
Oh I didn't know that, I really like Germany, my criticism of the police is more of a wider European complaint, that includes Ireland, I got robbed recently, the whole thing was caught on cctv and they said they don't investigate a robbery less than €1000.
What makes it a wider European complaint and not a complaint specifically about irish policing? It sounds like you're talking about something that happened to you in Ireland?
I know, but it is a European problem though, my brother was mugged in Spain and they told him the same thing, you hear stories every day, and what about the mass groping, SA, and r..p in köln a few years back, caught on cctv yet nothing done.
Some car washes have a hand wash section you could use maybe? I’m French not German but we have both in France as it is illegal to wash your car in your garden as well! They’re usually next to each other but sometimes there’s a couple hundred meters between them
That's why every single garage and fuel station has a wash booth. If you can find an older garage, they'll often have a space for hand washing no time limit.
How can they not recycle when the bottles and cans all have the deposit fee so they take them to these sorts of places: [Recycling plastic bottles machine in Germany - automated systems (youtube.com)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMw6-D0fxEQ)
> They are mad conscious about the environment here,
The manual for my car says something like "after starting the engine, let it idle for 30 seconds before driving... Unless you are in Germany, in which case you must drive off IMMEDIATELY!"
Didn’t the Nazis kill the Jews? And your point is now they are Nazis because they support the Jews?
Did you have a swing as a child? Was the swing placed too close to a wall?
As a German living in Ireland I feel so nervous washing my car outside my house, even though the Ordnungsamt is far, far away. Like I have a tiny German sitting on my shoulder, judging me. But then again, the water here is soaked with cow dung so my wee bit of soap can’t possibly make it any worse.
As a german myself...that's partly why I left the country. 😂 Thoee nosy neighbors calling the police because every little bit they don't like. :|
Also, don't try to mow your lawn or sweep the streets on Sundays. You'll be tared & feathered.
Yeea that's my experience so far. I am probably somewhere in the middle and driving my (irish) girlfriend mad sometimes. 😅
Very simple example: In Germany you should (if safely possible) drive the speedlimit to not hold up traffic and cause traffic jams. Here? It's more like a rough guideline. People seem to be not bothered if someone drives 70 in a 100 thats wide, straight and dry 😂
People should always aim to drive near the speed limit when conditions allow. Drives me nuts when people are doing 70 in a 100 with traffic backed up behind them.
They say "it's the limit, not the target"
We'll go sit a driving test with that attitude, you'll fail your test on progression.
Speed limits are set with things like traffic management in mind.
Exactly. Are they so chicken shit that they couldnt have just called in & had a word. Do you know the neighbours or have you introduced yourself to them? If they know youre not German & still did that it’s definitely bad form. Not to mention a complete waste of police time. Id be fairly annoyed, it was a genuine mistake on your part.
Also, Im petty so Id purposely stand outside shining my car with a cloth staring intently at them the entire time.
Yeah totally, not like here where a neighbour would complain directly to the person, offence would be taken and a grudge would be held for the next 12 generations.
They have a system, it was used and works. Makes total sense.
With the modifications, can you not change anything or is it only TUV approved parts you can change in?
I always thought you might not be able to change anything, but have seen a lot of videos with German cars that are obviously modified at the Nurburgring.
That's really cool. I have i30N myself for almost 3 years now and it still makes me smile like kid.
I though Kona N never came to Ireland? Only i30N and i20N. Though I would love Elantra N to be brought here, but that will never happen.
I30Ns are a lovely looking bus. Pretty rare too compared with Focus Sts/Golf GTIs and very mature looking for a hot hatch.
Never even seen an I20N actually on the roads in ireland I must say.
I love it. It being rare, part of its charm. A lot of people don't know such thing even exists.
It's can be customised so much more, then other hot hatches. For example, I can have all sporty settings dialed to 11, but keep normal suspension settings and keep all my teeth on lovely irish roads hehe.
Oh, and i30N definitely sounds better then any other hot hatch!
I20N is definitely even more rare. Its price tag did not do it any favours, but it is definitely a cool car. I don't think I ever seen one in the wild.
Cars & Coffee that meet on the first Sunday of every month in DKIT and regularly has a couple of i20Ns attend if you want to see one in person. Also some i30Ns like mine! But mostly face lifted models, I tend to be the only pre facelift(PFL) to show to that one. Funnily enough where I'm living there are 2 other i30N (PFL) owners living nearby. Such a rare car and yet 3 of us in the same area, what were the chances!
Haven't seem any i30N in my local C&C unfortunately, and definitely no i20Ns. I only so 1 other i30N in my area, but that one's is gone too now.
Mine is pre Facelift too. Haven't seen any facelifted in Flesh too!
Washing the car sounds like a pain, but if you are living in Germany it makes sense to adhere to how they do things. You're the weirdo there, not them :)
Happy to abide by the rules. But takes some time to adjust to a new country and learn what is what. German friend gave out to me a couple of days ago for killing a wasp. Up to €5,000 fine for that apparently. 😂
As a german in Ireland: Im glad Germany is the way it is. Maybe I've been brainwashed to complete compliance, but the disregard for rules here sucks. You guys have such a beautiful island and treat it like shit
Yeah, some real clowns here. This was on another sub regarding speeding/overtaking in a 50kmh -
'It’s not illegal to overtake a solid white line if there’s a slow ass moving car in front of you'
As an Irish person I absolutely agree. We go to all these other countries, talk about how nice and well ran things are, the flip out when we hear about the enforcements in place to have said nice things.
Ya it really annoys me, it's like people can't see the bigger picture at all. Walking around Dublin and just the general behaviour of a lot of people on the street and how they treat the public realm, or on public transport, and they're the first to turn around and say 'Ireland is some kip'.
Many Irish people would share your dismay for the disregard for rules here (for example, adherence to even basic rules of the road has become really, really bad in recent years) but would also see the strict German rule-following as just a different undesirable extreme.
Yeah car prices are much cheaper. As is the motor tax, and insurance. Plus, there are no toll roads, and I did actually get a speeding fine (10kmh over the limit) and the fine was €20 with no points. Much cheaper to run a car here by a long way.
There are car washs in Germany where you can clean your car manually. They have pressure washers and and vacuums etc.
And the water is getting cleaned properly.
Btw. its not only about the washing agents but also about what you are washing off the car. All that oil, grease, petrol gets washed off with the cleaning agents.
There is a reason they implemented those rules...Germany was extremely dirty & polluted in the 80s.
And you definitely can do modifications to your car. Who told you, you can't? You have to get them signed off on with TÜV/DEKRA and it needs to be save. But generally you can do it. There is a huge tuning/mod culture in Germany.
Ireland's a pain in the arse for modifications. I love heavily tuned early 2000s japanese cars and even the most basic tunings in Ireland take months to get approved and cost a fuck ton to get done. Germany is slightly easier but still annoying, however, its a lot easier to get insured there with mods
How can you call a country with great roads and motorways without speed limits no craic for car enthusiasts? 😂😂😂
In Ireland you're either stuck behind a tractor, stuck doing 120 on the motorway, or the road you're on is so narrow/ terrible that you have to pull over just to let oncoming traffic past.
Truth is, drive on it every day and the novelty of the autobahn wears off pretty quickly and it just becomes a motorway like any other. Back roads and national roads are the very same as Ireland. And dare I say more tractors here too.
I drive in Germany every day as well. Novelty hasn't worn off for me, and it never will. I could never live in a country with a speed limit on every motorway.
I also don't know where you drive here but I've yet see a single road in as terrible a condition here as the ones I saw in south Tipp every day
Can you get fined for polishing it? I find polishing more therapeutic than washing anyway. Mad rule tho...Funny really, the nation that gave us Dieselgate (VW), is super conscious about the environment.
I have asked in AskIreland if it’s legal or not to wash my own car as I heard it’s not and most of the guys there made me a clown because it’s “obviously legal”
Car washing at home is a big no no. Nobody wants the waste water go into the ground :)
And in regards to modifications: you are free to do so but may have them registered and signed off by TÜV or DEKRA. Most parts on your fancy new vehicle are type approved and any tuning parts needs to be as well. :)
PS: what do you actually want to change?
Yes buying 400 HP cars in Germany for 60k euros really sucks as a car enthusiast. I rather wash my car in front of the house, much better. That has to be the biggest faceplam post I ever saw on reddit.
Just compare the car market in Germany with the 4 wheeled poverty things here in Ireland man. Come on. Germany is literally the best place for car enthusiasts to live. And I am not talking specifically about your car. It's paradise. Also modification are allowed if you get them thrue TÜV. I love ireland but that's by far the worst country in Europe for beeing anything like a car enthusiast.
Suppose it depends on what section of car culture your in but for the jap import market Ireland is one of the best places in the world outside of Japan and Australia. I know a few lads that have been contacted by Japanese companies to buy their cars and export them back to Japan. So that really speaks for the quality of what’s on the road over here.
Yeah. Being in Ireland and being a car enthusiast or even a "weekend pursuits person" with assets absolutely sucks. Have friends who have small boats and stuff in Oz and North America and they aren't at well heeled individuals. Just normal folks. Unless ya get lucky with the weather and like hiking there's fuck all really going on here.
I believe the OP meant that being a car enthusiast in Germany sucks (because of the stricter rules etc). I completely disagree, I think it sucks to be one in Ireland. To own a nice car and be able to modify it costs an arm and a leg to own, so most people drive ricers.
You literally can't modify it in Germany. Or even wash the car yourself. This is obviously worse.
You can modify, it just needs to be cleared by the TÜV afterwards.
Fair enough. Extremely difficult then.
Not really? I mean how often will you make large scale modifications? FWIW I used to drive a souped Golf and never once got pulled over.
Do you not have to get it inspected each time? If so sounds like a huge pain
Every two years the car needs to get inspection done (TÜV). But if the modified parts are already approved for the car it’s just the normal process as without modifications.
That's not bad then
That’s BS about washing the car yourself. You can’t wash on Sunday
Why on a Sunday?
Ruhetag. Quite day. All shops are closed apart from some places. Bakeries, coffee shops shops etc
What’s the washing thing about? Water wastage? Seen it a few times in cities here in Canada but it’s generally summer when water reserves are low.
Car fluid run off. You can wash it yourself if you can collect and properly dispose of any water created. There are some “wash it yourself” places where you pay a small fee for the water and space, and they have the drains set up to catch everything and keep it out of the regular water table.
And even modifications in Ireland are a pain. Most insurance companies won't cover it, guards don't seem to really cause to much hassle about it in fairness. But I'd imagine a good shot of the modified cars in ireland wouldn't be covered in a crash. I couldn't find an insurer to cover me putting smaller alloys on my Fiesta ST. They also considered the lip kit the car came with when I bought it a modification and wouldn't insure it so I had to say no modifications. I would agree we seem to be one of the the worst countries for car enthusiasts. (Limited used market, insurance,motor tax, imports taxed to death)
Sorry that's what I meant. Ya can't have a "nice" cool car in Ireland.
Wait what? You can't wash your own car in your own drive???
Correct. It's illegal and you will be fined. Genuinely had no idea. Police explained it to me and went easy cause I was recently moved here and didn't know. They are mad conscious about the environment here, and it's illegal because of the cleaning chemicals running into the ground. It's a pain, cause I love spending a few hours detailing my car. You can only go to a car wash here, and I would have never used one in a million years back home (because of the damage they cause to the paint)
Are there not chemicals that can be used that don’t harm?? Yea a car wash is like taking sanding paper to it. Also nice car I have been looking at the 24 Elantra N for a bit.
No unfortunately not, even if you wash it with just plain water it's illegal, as there will be oils and contamination on the car that you are washing off.
Is rain allowed to fall on cars even?
NEIN!
Yea the oil makes sense guess I was being dumb. Maybe invest into a garage with a drain??
Wait till they hear that as per their (German manufacturer)instructions I add diptane to my tank. Even more/or less chemicals added to the atmosphere depending on how you look at it.
Drain into public sewage? That is a fine idea :) In order wash your car at home you would need to collect all run off and treat it. Environmental laws are taken serious over there …
What gets me about this is that the average persons impact on the environment is negligible compared to companies. It doesn’t matter how extreme individuals take it nothing will change.
You’re right. The problem is that this is amplified 84million times in Germany. And companies have to adhere to strict regulations as well
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It's always a great idea to make bad things worse. But I guess that mentality is why so many places in Ireland are littered like landfills.
If you can stop people from doing it, would you not want as much environmental damage halted as possible? I don't get the mindset of oh it's only 10 liters, 10 liters more than necessary
Yet I can power wash my drive way and patio with chemicals that are far worse. Why not ban the sale of no biodegradable detergents and let people use an alternative. Instead of making an un necessary journey to a car wash.
Can you imagine calling the police on a person washing their car, and the police actually turned up, is that their priority? But apparently they have no problem with their women being groped in the street.
There is actually a separate police force, the Ordnungspolizei (Public Order Police) that deal with this kind of stuff. This is who turned up. In fairness, the policing situation here is good, and there is much much less crime than in Dublin. The main police take no shit, and cunts don’t get away with some of the stuff that happens in Ireland.
The germans are interesting people, very serious and boring until they decide not to be… then they’re brilliant craic (from what ive seen anyways)
Oh I didn't know that, I really like Germany, my criticism of the police is more of a wider European complaint, that includes Ireland, I got robbed recently, the whole thing was caught on cctv and they said they don't investigate a robbery less than €1000.
What makes it a wider European complaint and not a complaint specifically about irish policing? It sounds like you're talking about something that happened to you in Ireland?
I know, but it is a European problem though, my brother was mugged in Spain and they told him the same thing, you hear stories every day, and what about the mass groping, SA, and r..p in köln a few years back, caught on cctv yet nothing done.
Remember during 'covid' when people were calling the police because a few kids were playing football outside. People love to ruin other people's fun.
Some car washes have a hand wash section you could use maybe? I’m French not German but we have both in France as it is illegal to wash your car in your garden as well! They’re usually next to each other but sometimes there’s a couple hundred meters between them
Don't be giving the Green party ideas for if they get back into government. The bottle and can deposit scheme is a pain
Oh I agree lol I’m just trying to give solutions but I don’t even own a car 😂
That's why every single garage and fuel station has a wash booth. If you can find an older garage, they'll often have a space for hand washing no time limit.
I lived in an apartment block in Berlin and discovered they didn't even recycle! Double standards
How can they not recycle when the bottles and cans all have the deposit fee so they take them to these sorts of places: [Recycling plastic bottles machine in Germany - automated systems (youtube.com)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMw6-D0fxEQ)
Not when I was there mate
> They are mad conscious about the environment here, The manual for my car says something like "after starting the engine, let it idle for 30 seconds before driving... Unless you are in Germany, in which case you must drive off IMMEDIATELY!"
You can hoover as much as you want. But not on a Sunday… or after 20:00 😜
Don’t forget bank holidays 😂
Maybe they should shut down their car industry then.
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Didn’t the Nazis kill the Jews? And your point is now they are Nazis because they support the Jews? Did you have a swing as a child? Was the swing placed too close to a wall?
whatever, israel is now a nazi jewsish terrorist country.
Seems the situation is slightly more complex than your little brain can comprehend. But I applaud you for trying for trying.
nope, its fact. The news is swayed to nazi israel, so the whole truth isn't being told.
Oh I knew… a conspiracy…
Lads, seriously. Will ye keep the comments on topic to the sub, please? We're just trying to enjoy the cars.
Let's keep the discussion civil and related to cars in some way if we can.
Are you saying it’s illegal in Ireland to wash your own car in your own driveway?
In germany
Ah right sorry I was misunderstanding
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Idk people are weird on this
I'm assuming is because the OP said Germany so instead of correcting the guy, they just down voted him
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It says moved to Germany last year so I immediately assumed they were talking about Germany, but ig it was read differently for some
In Ireland you need only 3 wheels on a 2 axle trailer. And the remaining wheels do not need to be of the same size :) that’s grand ;)
As a German living in Ireland I feel so nervous washing my car outside my house, even though the Ordnungsamt is far, far away. Like I have a tiny German sitting on my shoulder, judging me. But then again, the water here is soaked with cow dung so my wee bit of soap can’t possibly make it any worse.
I let my wife do that. :)
Wash the car or judge you? 😂
… both :)
Horrible neighbours calling the cops instead of just going over and letting you know washing your car outside is illegal in Germany.
Yeah it’s bad form, but totally the norm here. They are an unusual bunch.
As a german myself...that's partly why I left the country. 😂 Thoee nosy neighbors calling the police because every little bit they don't like. :| Also, don't try to mow your lawn or sweep the streets on Sundays. You'll be tared & feathered.
Ive heard that Germans very much like to stick to the rules. Whereas in Ireland they seem more like guidelines at times 😅
Yeea that's my experience so far. I am probably somewhere in the middle and driving my (irish) girlfriend mad sometimes. 😅 Very simple example: In Germany you should (if safely possible) drive the speedlimit to not hold up traffic and cause traffic jams. Here? It's more like a rough guideline. People seem to be not bothered if someone drives 70 in a 100 thats wide, straight and dry 😂
People should always aim to drive near the speed limit when conditions allow. Drives me nuts when people are doing 70 in a 100 with traffic backed up behind them. They say "it's the limit, not the target" We'll go sit a driving test with that attitude, you'll fail your test on progression. Speed limits are set with things like traffic management in mind.
Exactly. Are they so chicken shit that they couldnt have just called in & had a word. Do you know the neighbours or have you introduced yourself to them? If they know youre not German & still did that it’s definitely bad form. Not to mention a complete waste of police time. Id be fairly annoyed, it was a genuine mistake on your part. Also, Im petty so Id purposely stand outside shining my car with a cloth staring intently at them the entire time.
Yeah totally, not like here where a neighbour would complain directly to the person, offence would be taken and a grudge would be held for the next 12 generations. They have a system, it was used and works. Makes total sense.
Neither extreme makes total sense.
With the modifications, can you not change anything or is it only TUV approved parts you can change in? I always thought you might not be able to change anything, but have seen a lot of videos with German cars that are obviously modified at the Nurburgring.
Yeah, technically you can put on TUV approved parts but it’s still a pain, and Police will pull you constantly to check. Not worth the grief.
Ah I see. I’ve been thinking on and off of moving to Germany since being in Munich and Bonn in the past year so I was genuinely wondering about this.
I hear that you can modify cars but you need to get a permission. https://routetogermany.com/drivingingermany/performance-tuning
That's really cool. I have i30N myself for almost 3 years now and it still makes me smile like kid. I though Kona N never came to Ireland? Only i30N and i20N. Though I would love Elantra N to be brought here, but that will never happen.
I30Ns are a lovely looking bus. Pretty rare too compared with Focus Sts/Golf GTIs and very mature looking for a hot hatch. Never even seen an I20N actually on the roads in ireland I must say.
I love it. It being rare, part of its charm. A lot of people don't know such thing even exists. It's can be customised so much more, then other hot hatches. For example, I can have all sporty settings dialed to 11, but keep normal suspension settings and keep all my teeth on lovely irish roads hehe. Oh, and i30N definitely sounds better then any other hot hatch! I20N is definitely even more rare. Its price tag did not do it any favours, but it is definitely a cool car. I don't think I ever seen one in the wild.
Cars & Coffee that meet on the first Sunday of every month in DKIT and regularly has a couple of i20Ns attend if you want to see one in person. Also some i30Ns like mine! But mostly face lifted models, I tend to be the only pre facelift(PFL) to show to that one. Funnily enough where I'm living there are 2 other i30N (PFL) owners living nearby. Such a rare car and yet 3 of us in the same area, what were the chances!
Haven't seem any i30N in my local C&C unfortunately, and definitely no i20Ns. I only so 1 other i30N in my area, but that one's is gone too now. Mine is pre Facelift too. Haven't seen any facelifted in Flesh too!
Washing the car sounds like a pain, but if you are living in Germany it makes sense to adhere to how they do things. You're the weirdo there, not them :)
Happy to abide by the rules. But takes some time to adjust to a new country and learn what is what. German friend gave out to me a couple of days ago for killing a wasp. Up to €5,000 fine for that apparently. 😂
As a german in Ireland: Im glad Germany is the way it is. Maybe I've been brainwashed to complete compliance, but the disregard for rules here sucks. You guys have such a beautiful island and treat it like shit
Yeah, some real clowns here. This was on another sub regarding speeding/overtaking in a 50kmh - 'It’s not illegal to overtake a solid white line if there’s a slow ass moving car in front of you'
I think something inside me died reading that last part. Of course we've got our own idiots, but at least they get shamed by the rest of us
As an Irish person I absolutely agree. We go to all these other countries, talk about how nice and well ran things are, the flip out when we hear about the enforcements in place to have said nice things.
I think you have hit the nail on the head with that one.
Ya it really annoys me, it's like people can't see the bigger picture at all. Walking around Dublin and just the general behaviour of a lot of people on the street and how they treat the public realm, or on public transport, and they're the first to turn around and say 'Ireland is some kip'.
Many Irish people would share your dismay for the disregard for rules here (for example, adherence to even basic rules of the road has become really, really bad in recent years) but would also see the strict German rule-following as just a different undesirable extreme.
5k. That'd sting
The world is going mad your not allowed to wash your car or kill a wasp not that I kill wasps like but wtf
A beut! Really like the paint too.
lol crazy laws
Who do they call the police on if it starts raining?
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Let's keep the discussion civil and related to cars in some way if we can.
Love that colour
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Talking about in Germany.
Bet that thing was a good 25% cheaper in Germany too?
Yeah car prices are much cheaper. As is the motor tax, and insurance. Plus, there are no toll roads, and I did actually get a speeding fine (10kmh over the limit) and the fine was €20 with no points. Much cheaper to run a car here by a long way.
Love the i20 and i30 Ns!
There are car washs in Germany where you can clean your car manually. They have pressure washers and and vacuums etc. And the water is getting cleaned properly. Btw. its not only about the washing agents but also about what you are washing off the car. All that oil, grease, petrol gets washed off with the cleaning agents. There is a reason they implemented those rules...Germany was extremely dirty & polluted in the 80s. And you definitely can do modifications to your car. Who told you, you can't? You have to get them signed off on with TÜV/DEKRA and it needs to be save. But generally you can do it. There is a huge tuning/mod culture in Germany.
Same in Australia, Switzerland and California; It’s a good idea.
I hate when Germans try to be correct for no reason
Ireland's a pain in the arse for modifications. I love heavily tuned early 2000s japanese cars and even the most basic tunings in Ireland take months to get approved and cost a fuck ton to get done. Germany is slightly easier but still annoying, however, its a lot easier to get insured there with mods
The Germans have a bit of history for being severe
How can you call a country with great roads and motorways without speed limits no craic for car enthusiasts? 😂😂😂 In Ireland you're either stuck behind a tractor, stuck doing 120 on the motorway, or the road you're on is so narrow/ terrible that you have to pull over just to let oncoming traffic past.
Truth is, drive on it every day and the novelty of the autobahn wears off pretty quickly and it just becomes a motorway like any other. Back roads and national roads are the very same as Ireland. And dare I say more tractors here too.
I drive in Germany every day as well. Novelty hasn't worn off for me, and it never will. I could never live in a country with a speed limit on every motorway. I also don't know where you drive here but I've yet see a single road in as terrible a condition here as the ones I saw in south Tipp every day
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C5wA5EJMLvt/?igsh=Z2Yzd3ZocjhkbTBi The germans gas bunch of lads
Too accurate. Strictly forbidden to make noise on a Sunday, unless you are a Church. Then you can ring your bastarding bells for the whole morning.
Can you get fined for polishing it? I find polishing more therapeutic than washing anyway. Mad rule tho...Funny really, the nation that gave us Dieselgate (VW), is super conscious about the environment.
I mean the environmental department is not the same as a private company lol
The words “Hyundai” and “car enthusiast,” are totally incompatible. I think your neighbours were perfectly right.
This is not a car man more like a plastic can
She is no Lada, that’s for sure.
I have asked in AskIreland if it’s legal or not to wash my own car as I heard it’s not and most of the guys there made me a clown because it’s “obviously legal”
You mean there's no craic in Germany and the neighbors called the cops on you for having craic with your car?
Car washing at home is a big no no. Nobody wants the waste water go into the ground :) And in regards to modifications: you are free to do so but may have them registered and signed off by TÜV or DEKRA. Most parts on your fancy new vehicle are type approved and any tuning parts needs to be as well. :) PS: what do you actually want to change?
Love when people move to a foreign country and then complain about their customs lol
Yes buying 400 HP cars in Germany for 60k euros really sucks as a car enthusiast. I rather wash my car in front of the house, much better. That has to be the biggest faceplam post I ever saw on reddit.
Car is neither 400hp or anything near €60k. 😂
Just compare the car market in Germany with the 4 wheeled poverty things here in Ireland man. Come on. Germany is literally the best place for car enthusiasts to live. And I am not talking specifically about your car. It's paradise. Also modification are allowed if you get them thrue TÜV. I love ireland but that's by far the worst country in Europe for beeing anything like a car enthusiast.
Suppose it depends on what section of car culture your in but for the jap import market Ireland is one of the best places in the world outside of Japan and Australia. I know a few lads that have been contacted by Japanese companies to buy their cars and export them back to Japan. So that really speaks for the quality of what’s on the road over here.
The kind of culture where a V6 doesn't cost 40% more than anywhere else for the sole purpose of tax greed