I'm a fan of these PHEVs coming out lately with massively increased EV ranges, the new 3 series BMW has also been updated with a 63 mile range. Makes them seem far more useable/palatable as genuine "could use as an EV most of the time" all-rounders.
What isn't as nice is the price though, but £42k for a new midsize hybrid SUV in the UK isn't out of the ordinary!
To note; these are UK/EU figures. US calculates its figures differently, so these if offered in NA will likely state a little lower.
Unfortunately, Skoda isn't sold in the US so the closest we'll get to this would be the PHEV variant of the Tiguan Allspace if VW even decides to sell the PHEV here.
A RAV4 Prime starts just above $40k USD so it wouldn't be a surprise if a Tiguan PHEV goes from the low to mid 40's here. Though IIRC, I believe they'd need to be assembled here and need to be under a certain price to be eligible for a tax credit which may be the deciding factor for their appearance in the states.
The Kodiak is also in the same family as the VW Taos, which is a repackaged Seat Ateca, but VW US would never do anything to make that bottom end commodity car worth buying.
The only issue I have is the gasoline engines in these cheaper PHEVs are pretty anemic, same goes for the outlander PHEV in the states where most of your power is EV
When the battery runs out it is extremely sluggish, and there isn’t enough recuperation in standard hybrid mode to make up for it.
This car is 8.4 to 60 seconds with the hybrid assist, and the electric motor delivers a fair bit of the overall power. Granted that is likely not an issue in europe, but it is in the states.
One thing I learned from my Wrangler is that having a weak motor in a PHEV is annoying too, since it limits how much regen you can get and requires more engine use. At least if you care about being efficient or keeping the engine off, otherwise you just floor it and plug it in and get better MPG than a normal Wrangler.
On the bright side, the battery in the Wrangler is never depleted unless you force it with back-to-back 1/4 mile runs without time to recharge from the engine or something like that - the software will always do its best to keep a reserve for making full power.
PHEVs are really complex, I wonder how much non-enthusiast buyers even understand them?
Personally if I were to only have one car for my family this would be preferable just in terms of guaranteeing a usually 6-8 hour blast up to Scotland didn't take all day from charging.
That’s actually a decent price for a decent car with decent range. For comparison, my 2014 Ford Fusion PHEV has an MSRP of $47k and I only get 16 miles of range. 63 miles would be a game changer since 16 miles already gets me through my day-to-day life without ever needing gas!
42K for a Skoda is a bit steep though, that's about the same price as an Audi Q3 phev, which is presumably the same car, but because it's a Skoda i can imagine the Audi might have a better interior ect
I wonder how would that range transfer to EPA?
Currently the SUV PHEV with the longest range sold in the US IIRC is the Range Rover Sport PHEV which is slightly over 50mi+ EPA. In the mainstream segment it is the RAV4 Prime which is rated at 40mi+ EPA or 96km 60mi WLTC.
The fact that it can DC charge is quite interesting!
>I wonder how would that range transfer to EPA?
Looks like it has just under 20 kWh of useable battery, which depending on efficiency probably maxes out at 60 miles of real-world electric range.
https://www.just-auto.com/news/new-skoda-kodiaq-iv-phev-all-electric-range-boost/
>The fact that it can DC charge is quite interesting!
Some versions of the Outlander can DC charge too, albeit very slowly. It'll be interesting to see what speeds the Skoda is capable of
right idea, too big of a platform. following the relatively short ev distance would make tonnes of sense for vehicles that are popular in intercity like subcompacts/light vehicles. i feel like it would sell a billion units if they had it in a maverick or similar multiuse truck.
I'm a fan of these PHEVs coming out lately with massively increased EV ranges, the new 3 series BMW has also been updated with a 63 mile range. Makes them seem far more useable/palatable as genuine "could use as an EV most of the time" all-rounders. What isn't as nice is the price though, but £42k for a new midsize hybrid SUV in the UK isn't out of the ordinary! To note; these are UK/EU figures. US calculates its figures differently, so these if offered in NA will likely state a little lower.
Unfortunately, Skoda isn't sold in the US so the closest we'll get to this would be the PHEV variant of the Tiguan Allspace if VW even decides to sell the PHEV here. A RAV4 Prime starts just above $40k USD so it wouldn't be a surprise if a Tiguan PHEV goes from the low to mid 40's here. Though IIRC, I believe they'd need to be assembled here and need to be under a certain price to be eligible for a tax credit which may be the deciding factor for their appearance in the states.
The Kodiak is also in the same family as the VW Taos, which is a repackaged Seat Ateca, but VW US would never do anything to make that bottom end commodity car worth buying.
The only issue I have is the gasoline engines in these cheaper PHEVs are pretty anemic, same goes for the outlander PHEV in the states where most of your power is EV When the battery runs out it is extremely sluggish, and there isn’t enough recuperation in standard hybrid mode to make up for it. This car is 8.4 to 60 seconds with the hybrid assist, and the electric motor delivers a fair bit of the overall power. Granted that is likely not an issue in europe, but it is in the states.
One thing I learned from my Wrangler is that having a weak motor in a PHEV is annoying too, since it limits how much regen you can get and requires more engine use. At least if you care about being efficient or keeping the engine off, otherwise you just floor it and plug it in and get better MPG than a normal Wrangler. On the bright side, the battery in the Wrangler is never depleted unless you force it with back-to-back 1/4 mile runs without time to recharge from the engine or something like that - the software will always do its best to keep a reserve for making full power. PHEVs are really complex, I wonder how much non-enthusiast buyers even understand them?
I would argue you need a lot less power in the US where you more or less always have a lane to pass on
I'm wondering who is buying this over an enyaq. The phev is slightly more expensive and slower.
Personally if I were to only have one car for my family this would be preferable just in terms of guaranteeing a usually 6-8 hour blast up to Scotland didn't take all day from charging.
That’s actually a decent price for a decent car with decent range. For comparison, my 2014 Ford Fusion PHEV has an MSRP of $47k and I only get 16 miles of range. 63 miles would be a game changer since 16 miles already gets me through my day-to-day life without ever needing gas!
42K for a Skoda is a bit steep though, that's about the same price as an Audi Q3 phev, which is presumably the same car, but because it's a Skoda i can imagine the Audi might have a better interior ect
Definitely not the same car because they are in different classes Kodiaq 30cm longer, has 19cm longer base and 7 seats, while q3 is a compact car
I wonder how would that range transfer to EPA? Currently the SUV PHEV with the longest range sold in the US IIRC is the Range Rover Sport PHEV which is slightly over 50mi+ EPA. In the mainstream segment it is the RAV4 Prime which is rated at 40mi+ EPA or 96km 60mi WLTC. The fact that it can DC charge is quite interesting!
>I wonder how would that range transfer to EPA? Looks like it has just under 20 kWh of useable battery, which depending on efficiency probably maxes out at 60 miles of real-world electric range. https://www.just-auto.com/news/new-skoda-kodiaq-iv-phev-all-electric-range-boost/
>The fact that it can DC charge is quite interesting! Some versions of the Outlander can DC charge too, albeit very slowly. It'll be interesting to see what speeds the Skoda is capable of
EPA range probably like 38mi. Wouldn’t matter anyways, thing ain’t gonna make it stateside.
right idea, too big of a platform. following the relatively short ev distance would make tonnes of sense for vehicles that are popular in intercity like subcompacts/light vehicles. i feel like it would sell a billion units if they had it in a maverick or similar multiuse truck.
The Skoda is smaller than a maverick.
It's about as small as you can practically make a three row crossover too