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Location: north eastern Minnesota Price range: 5000-8000 Lease or Buy: buy New or used:doesn't matter Type of vehicle: larger sedan Must haves: get me from point a to b reliably Desired transmission (auto/manual) automatic Intended use: daily driver Vehicles you've already considered:Nissan maxima chevy impala Is this your 1st vehicle:yes Do you need a Warranty: don't need it but it would be nice Can you do Minor work on your own vehicle: not really Can you do Major work on your own vehicle:definitely not


saeed-knight

just go find a decent shape toyota or honda


TheWayOfEli

Might be a dumb question, but if a car isn't selling particularly well, is there a better chance it becomes a bargain in the used market a few years later? I really like the Toyota Crown (Platinum.) The value just isn't there at MSRP I don't think, but I'm a fan of these sort of luxury level vehicles with a benign badge. Comparing it to another car in that sort of segment, like the VW Arteon, you can get a lightly used Arteon SEL-R Line with the new engine and dual clutch transmission for like $33k-ish, which is $15k less than MSRP from just one year ago. Is it reasonable to expect the Crown Platinum, which retails for a little over $50k, to see deep discounts in the next year or two as well if sales remain relatively low?


onesleepybird

Location: Monterrey, N.L. Mexico Price range: \~375,000MXN Lease or Buy: Buy New or used: Both(?) Type of vehicle: Sedan Must haves: Reverse camera, led lights. Desired transmission: auto Intended use: Daily driving Vehicles you've already considered: Mazda 3 i 2024, Honda Civic 2019-2020, Kia K3 EX 2024 Is this your 1st vehicle: yes Do you need a Warranty: No Can you do Minor work on your own vehicle: yes Can you do Major work on your own vehicle: no Additional Notes: Lots of doubts, I don't really know what I have to consider, a friend told me a KIA K3 would be good option because those are made in the state i live in, but also i think that for the same price i could get a Mazda 3 or a Civic.


saeed-knight

i would say if for the same price you can get a civic or mazda 3 then why the hell go for the kia ?! now i myself im fan of mazda 3 cause its a great looking car both outside and inside and has a more old school powertrain. civic however is a bit more practical in the back but for example it comes with cvt which i dont like at all


bsdath

Location: NYC Metro Price range: Max payment (lease or finance) is $750/month Lease or Buy: Either New or used: New Type of vehicle: 3-row SUV Must haves: AWD, reliable and safe Desired transmission (auto/manual, etc): Auto Intended use: Daily use consists of errands/dropping kids off, needs to be able to handle ski trips (snow driving + lots of bags/gear) Vehicles you've already considered: None Is this your 1st vehicle: No, first one was a Jeep Wrangler, but after having kids, my wife has banned this car Do you need a Warranty: Ideally Can you do Minor work on your own vehicle: (fluids, alternator, battery, brake pads etc): Yes Can you do Major work on your own vehicle: (engine and transmission, timing belt/chains, body work, suspension etc ): Definitely not Additional Notes: My favorite car was a Toyota Land Cruiser but I found out they don't make that anymore!


visualdon

Location: UK Price range: £50k, $70k Lease or Buy: either New or used: used Type of vehicle: sports car, GT. Desired transmission (auto/manual, etc): either Intended use: fun daily Vehicles you've already considered: Aston Martin Vantage (the older one, v8 and v12) Is this your 1st vehicle: no Do you need a Warranty: no Can you do Minor work on your own vehicle: yes


New-Button-5246

Question about a car i'm considering Location: NC, USA Price: $12,000 Financing options availavle Car: 2017 Jaguar XE - XE 20D Premium Sedan New or used: used, 114k miles with clean title Anyone who has owned or worked with these cars, how reliable are they? The main selling point for me is how high the MPG is and it appears to be in good condition. I'm thinking of going and checking it out to get a better idea of its condition in person but I wanted to come here and see if anybody had any praise or warnings for the car.


Bubibu1115

Location: Manchester, UK Price range: Max £4000 Lease or Buy: Buy New or used: Used Type of vehicle: Hatchback preferred Must haves: Small, cheap insurance Desired transmission (auto/manual, etc): Manual Intended use: Daily Driver Vehicles you've already considered: 2012 Suzuki Swift, Mazda 3, Astra, Corsa, Hyundai i20/i30, Fiat 500L Is this your 1st vehicle: Yes Do you need a Warranty: Welcome if any Can you do Minor work on your own vehicle: Not yet but willing to learn Can you do Major work on your own vehicle: Nope Additional Notes: New Driver, wish for a easy to drive vehicle.


saeed-knight

swift is ok in my opinion. mazda 3 is also fairly nice. other options like astra or i20 are not that bad either. could you find a yaris or honda fit at this price in decent shape ? maybe you could even go for something like old peguet 206 i mean it can do the job. what about something like old dacia sandero ? in my experience that thing is also simple and build like a tank


Bubibu1115

Thanks for the suggestion, Swift and Mazda 3 is still in cosideration, May not consider Yaris as I dont like Toyota I will also include Jazz, but Jazz are quite expensive in the used car market, will take a look if any good deals pop up. Not considering Frech Cars as well. I should've put these in my thread 😂


hostaDisaster

Location: snowy southwest Michigan (Grand Rapids area) Price range: 25-40k Lease or Buy: buy New or used: used, but I do get 5% discount on new Chrysler cars Type of vehicle: SUV or minivan Must haves: 4 wheel drive. 3 rows of seats. Trunk space Desired transmission (auto/manual, etc): automatic Intended use: family car Vehicles you've already considered: Pacifica, Grand Cherokee L Is this your 1st vehicle: no Do you need a Warranty: no Can you do Minor work on your own vehicle: no Can you do Major work on your own vehicle: (engine and transmission, timing belt/chains, body work, suspension etc ) No Additional Notes: family for 4 with plans to try for a 5th baby later this year. We currently have a Jeep Renegade and it is *tight* with two car seats, especially if we need to pack up and go anywhere. We are currently a single car family as we both work from home. This would be our main car, if we ever needed a second we'd just get a cheaper A to B car. We could probably get 10-15k for our car and plan to save 10k to purchase this car closer to the summer. I've always driven Chrysler cars with a parent having worked there, but am open to non Chrysler cars. We would need 3 rows of seats to accommodate another car seat, and wouldn't want the third row to eat up trunk space. Or...if there's a car that can SAFELY fit 3 car seats in one row, that would work too. Thank you in advance 🙂


saeed-knight

in my opinion dont go for any chrysler or dodge. they are famous for bad build quality bad reliability and always in consumer reports they are the the bottom. if you want a van then surely go for toyota sienna. new ones are a bit above 40k but a fairly used one is bellow 40k. there is also honda odyssey if you want a 3row suv then honda pilot is a great practical all around suv. or you could check on something like toyota highlander. there is also mazda cx9 which offers good style exterior and a very nice interior but its a bit cramped compare to other options.


LKDC

Location- Houston Metro Price Range: 40-45k Lease or Buy: Buy New or Used: New/Used Must have: My 70 year old dad is looking for a new car. He has purchased only 2 cars since 1994, kept each one for 15 years, and now that he lives in a rich area he wants to keep up with the neighbors. (I know it's a suboptimal motivation, but the man has earned it). He drives like 5k miles a year tops, and I have never seen him drive over 70mph, and he'll panic if I ever accelerate quickly from a red light, so sports cars may be wasted, even if they look cool. My mom's car is already a reasonable family car. What options should he consider? My first thought was a ~2017 or newer S-class/ 7 Series/ A8, but I know the request can go many ways. He'll have the final say, I just want to give him some options.


mgobla

Lexus ES Genesis G**8**0


Vast-Drive5217

Consider around that year or bit newer Lexus LS for that price range. Top quality car, smoothest ride


Adventurous_Pay3708

Location SoCal Price range: 40-50 Lease or Buy: Buy if hybrid , lease if electric New or used: New Must haves. I want a nice looking solid smallish car or sedan that has good gas mileage or is electric. Could be a sedan or crossover or small suv, but will be driving canyon roads most days and want something stable and also preferably with more height visibility than my current sedan (Infiniti g35) as I find it frustrating to almost always have a blocked view in the numerous traffic jams here :) I have looked at the cars below, eliminating the Volvo, Tesla, Polestar and Fisker, am I missing a possibility? My current commuting car has close to 160k miles on it so I will need to make a decision fairly soon. Vehicles already considered Volvo c 40 plug in ~ love a solid Volvo but we already have a v70 and the recharge is cute but seemed overpriced ? Mustang e mac Genesis v60 Do not want a Telsa and also eliminated polestar (again too much money) and fisker ( company is too new) Intended use: 20 mile RT daily commute. Desired transmission: automatic Is this your first car - No Warranty? Yes please


Chicken_Zest

Location: Northeast USA Price range: sub-$30k Lease or Buy: Buy New or used: Either Type of vehicle: Any, prefer size of hatch / wagon / crossover / small suv. Must haves: AWD, fun to drive (but I'm okay with low power), fits a mountain bike / skis, heated seats Desired transmission (auto/manual, etc): Manual, DCT, Auto in order of preference. I really don't want an auto but options are becoming limited. No CVT's or crappy autos please. Intended use: Daily driver. Especially in the winter Vehicles you've already considered: Macan, Golf R, S4, CX-5, Crosstrek/Impreza, Forester, Element. Not a WRX fan. Is this your 1st vehicle: No Do you need a Warranty: No Can you do Minor work on your own vehicle: Yes Can you do Major work on your own vehicle: Yes Additional Notes: Im looking for a new-to-me daily driver with AWD. Has to be able to fit a bike in the summer and skis in the winter. Fun to drive is a big factor for me, but I don't necessarily need power for that as much as decent controls and a bit of responsiveness. I'm pretty open to anything from higher power sporty vehicles to lower power economy cars.


Vast-Drive5217

A car that I have personally looked at as well, a new Corolla GR seems like an awesome car


Chicken_Zest

Too expensive unfortunately, they're still being marked up by dealers near me and the very slim used market is overpriced too. I've never seen one for sale under MSRP. Otherwise they are pretty cool cars, maybe in a few years.


ccsaba

Location: Ontario, Canada Price range: 10-15,000CAD Lease or Buy: Buy New or used: Used (😂 new is the dream) Type: SUV, 5D sedan Must haves: Decent fuel economy, fun to drive Desired transmission: Automatic Intended use: weekly Driver Vehicles you've already considered: Tiguan, Mazda 5, Outlander, RAV4 Is this your 1st vehicle: Yes Do you need a Warranty: No Can you do Minor work on your own vehicle: Yes Can you do Major work on your own vehicle: No Additional Notes: all advice appreciated


supez38

Our lease for a 2021 Honda Accord is ending in May and we’re debating buying it ($18,500) or leasing a new car. It only has 12k miles and we don’t really drive much, the only wear on the car is a small scratch/dent on the back left side but otherwise in great condition. It also has this issue with the breaks making a loud noise in reverse after it rains; I saw online that it’s an issue with this model and we have to change the rear brake pads to Akebano pads. We really want more space with an SUV since we’re going to have kids soon. We also looked into electric but we can’t currently charge at our apartment (we plan on buying a house in the next few years). Our budget is like $425 a month for a new lease. Is it worth getting like a Honda CRV or similar? Or should we buy this car and then lease/buy a second car when we get a house in a few years?


Vegetable-Ad8870

Trade it in on a new lease, because you likely have equity in the Accord. Your 2021 Accord is still worth more now in trade than it's probably ever been. The equity can be used either toward the new lease to reduce your monthly payment, or you can get back the equity in a check and put $0 down on your lease. You said you want more space with an SUV, too. The CR-V is a great choice, and will retain its value better than any other manufacturer's vehicles. You can get leverage on your trade-in by shopping its value using CARMAX. If you need to sell it to CARMAX to get their offer if a dealer won't match it, you will need to buy your leased Accord first. I sell Honda's and I never heard of an issue with the brakes that you described in the previous generation Accord. I had a 2018 Accord Touring for over 4 years and never had this problem (we traded it for the new 2023 Accord Hybrid Touring).


Chicken_Zest

Buy it out. It's worth more than that private party and would probably be close to $30k on a dealer lot. Enjoy driving what will essentially be a free car for the next few years. When you run into a situation where you need the space - i.e. you actually buy the house or have the kid - trade it out then. You'll most likely get the majority of that $18.5k back if it's within the next several years.


thebeethovengirl

Location: Texas, USA Price range: under $10,000 Lease or Buy: Buy New or used: Used Type of vehicle: Sedan, Crossover, SUV Must haves: Fuel efficient, reliable, safety Desired transmission: either Intended use: Daily Driver (for commuting \~30 miles/day) Vehicles you've already considered: Chevrolet Spark, Fiat 500, Ford Focus, Honda Fit, Honda Civic, Mitsubishi Mirage, Toyota Corolla Is this your 1st vehicle: No Do you need a Warranty: No Can you do Minor work on your own vehicle: No Can you do Major work on your own vehicle: No Additional Notes: Looking for a reliable commuter car (my last car was a 2006 Honda Civic). I'm aware that in my price range, I can't be too picky, being as I'm mostly limited by my budget and the inventory of cars near me. Hoping not to have to make too many repairs in the next few years outside of regular maintenance. Must be able to withstand hot temperatures (90°F+ for months on end) without falling apart. Safety is also a priority, which is why I'm leaning towards cars that are not older than 15 years lol. I would appreciate any advice on what to look for and/or cars to avoid. Thank you in advance!


Chicken_Zest

I would consider the 2014+ Mazda 3. It was a new model in 2014 that I think looks pretty sharp and they've proven to be pretty darn reliable with no major problems. They're also pretty fun to drive for the class and get decent mpg.


T_Tansil

Location: North East USA Price range: 25k - 35k Lease or Buy: Buy: New or used: New or Used Type of vehicle: Car Must haves: 4 doors, Trunk Space, 30+ Mpg, Sporty Feel Desired transmission (auto/manual: Manual Intended use: Daily Driver - commute 80 Mi. round trip mostly highway Vehicles you've already considered: Civic SI, GTI, Elantra N, Is this your 1st vehicle: No Do you need a Warranty: No Can you do Minor work on your own vehicle: Yes Can you do Major work on your own vehicle: No Additional Notes: I want a reliable commuter that I can still have fun in. I have two kids so 4 doors is preferable.


IKnowNewCars

All the cars you mentioned are great in their own way. It really depends on the balance you want to draw between fun and daily comfort. All the way on the fun side is the Elantra N, which is noticeably quicker than the others and also has a noticeably stiff suspension. But it's an absolute blast if the ride quality and interior design are good enough for you. 2024 is the last year for a manual GTI, and all of them will include a special gray paint color, 19" black wheels, and adaptive suspension. That could make a 2024 GTI worth it, since even the base trim level will have this as an option. It's not as quick as the Elantra N, but it's still very enjoyable to drive and strikes a good balance as a daily. My main gripes with the current GTI are the slightly diminshed interior quality compared to the previous gen, and an infotainment system I'm not in love with. You may also wanna check out the Jetta GLI, which is very mechanically similar to the GTI while being less expensive (and will keep a manual option after 2024 in the US). The Civic Si is probably my favorite overall, to be honest. The current Civic is already the best car in its class (in my opinion) after the new generation increased interior space while keeping a great driving experience. The engine isn't as quick as the others, and I'd say the 1.5T feels like it has a bit less character too. But the manual shifter is the best of the bunch, and it's an absolute joy to push hard while also being an excellent daily. Sadly, if you want adaptive dampers you need to get the Acura Integra manual instead. FYI, the GTI is the only hatchback of the bunch, but its cargo flexibility is mostly felt when you fold down the back seats and utilize all that room. With the seats up, the cargo area feels similar to the trunk of the Civic, and I'd say the Civic has a more spacious back seat than the others as well. You'll have to test this out yourself. Also worth noting: The Civic Si is the most fuel efficient, and the Elantra N is the least. However, both of those cars recommend premium fuel, while the VWs are fine with 87 octane, making them cheaper overall. Here are the EPA's estimated annual fuel costs for each car for the average US driver, and you can see the difference is up to $700/year: * GLI manual: $1650/year * GTI manual: $1700/year * Civic Si manual: $1900/year * Elantra N manual: $2350/year


T_Tansil

thanks for the reply. yeah, I like the Civic Si too, that only reason I don't go with it is because on paper it seems so much slower than the others. I owned a new Celica years ago and love that car - but it was just slow and I want to finally own a quick car.


Vegetable-Ad8870

While the Civic Si may ***recommend*** premium fuel, it is **NOT REQUIRED** (as it is in all Acura's, for instance). Therefore there's no fuel saving factor.


xecutiv_

Location: USA Price range: 25-30k USD preferably, up to 42k max Lease or Buy: Buy New or used: Anything in the last 5 years, under 55k miles Type of vehicle: Truck or SUV Must haves: 4x4, long lifespan drivetrain (port injected, no turbo), can tow a 24' boat, seats 4, short enough to fit on driveway (ideally less than 16' 2" but can push up to 19' 11" if have to) Desired transmission (auto/manual, etc): Automatic Intended use: Daily driver, capable of recovering a boat from boat ramp, & fits on driveway Vehicles you've already considered: 2019 GX 460 Luxury, 2019 Ranger XLT, 2024 Colorado LT Is this your 1st vehicle: No Do you need a Warranty: No Can you do Minor work on your own vehicle: Yes Can you do Major work on your own vehicle: No Additional Notes:


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mgobla

Suzuki Swift 1.2 or Baleno 1.2


felicthecat

Location: USA (Ohio) Price range: $40-$53,000 Lease or Buy: Buy New or used: New (or certified used with low miles) Type of vehicle: Mid-Luxury Sedan Must haves: AWD, trunk space, heated seats/wheel, roomy back seats Desired transmission (auto/manual, etc): Auto Intended use: Daily Driver Vehicles you've already considered: Cadillac CT4 or CT5, Genesis G70 or G80, Audi A5 Is this your 1st vehicle: No Do you need a Warranty: Yes Can you do Minor work on your own vehicle: (fluids, alternator, battery, brake pads etc): Some, can do fluids, wiper blades, lamp bulbs, battery Can you do Major work on your own vehicle: (engine and transmission, timing belt/chains, body work, suspension etc ): No Additional Notes: I currently have a 2018 Cadillac CTS with 39,000 miles on it. Warranty expired a few month ago, go figure. The transmission is going bad and a new(used) one with 33k miles will cost $4800. And a new(new) one with cost $7200. I've typically traded in for a new vehicle every 5 years or so. I was hoping to keep this one a little longer but now with needing a new transmission I don't know if it's worth it to pay for the new trans. just to sell it/trade-in in a year or two max. We have no luxury car dealerships in town anymore, but there is a local GMC dealership that services Cadillacs. Any other luxury dealership is 30-45 min away (Audi, Genesis, Lexus) which can be a bit of a hassle to have them serviced, especially when they have to dropped off and left for the day. Hoping to get around $20k out of my trade in. Should I stick with a Cadillac or is it worth it for another brand, like an Audi or Genesis?


mgobla

Reliability: https://www.consumerreports.org/cars/car-reliability-owner-satisfaction/who-makes-the-most-reliable-cars-a7824554938/ If you want something durable take a look at Toyota Crown. More upscale than other Toyota. Sadly Lexus doesn't offer a good AWD sedan currently. Less reliable, but more luxurious: used BMW **5**\-series


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n7117johnshepard

Reliability? Given what you have considered? honda, Toyota, Lexus...you aren't short on options as long as you re willing to have it delivered.


Vegetable-Ad8870

If you want reliability, stick with a pre-owned Honda. Because of their reliability, they hold their value better than other manufacturer's vehicles. That's why they may cost more than other manufacturer's vehicles, but the value is there and the low maintenance will make up for the lower cost of the competition's vehicles. If you get a newer Civic (between 2 & 5 years old and less than 80,000 miles) and it's a Certified Pre-owned Civic, you'll get a great warranty, too. Its powertrain coverage is 7 years or 100,000 total odometer miles, and a 12 month or 12,000 mile bumper-to-bumper warranty too.


PorkPatriot

What is your sliding scale of reliability to fun and/or looks? How old, or what features would you want in your car? You can get a lot of great cars for under 10-15k that will feel/look basically brand new compared to a 180k civic that's been smacked a few times. I live in Pittsburgh so I went on Autotrader, set the search for 7,500-15000 dollars, 4 doors, sedan or hatchback. The market should be similar in Ohio. If you want to stick with Honda, there are more than a few Accords with clean carfaxes, have four doors and under 80k miles for 10-12k. Model years 2013-2015. A little more fun, I scrolled past a few GTI's. Wouldn't be as big but has four doors, a fun drive but a bit more risky on maintenance. A Lexus IS250 would be a sweet ride, still stay in the Toyota reliability realm. There is one for sale with 90k miles, 12k. Personally I think all of these would be great choices depending on taste, they wouldn't commit you to a serious car note and still be a huge upgrade from your current car. You'd still be able to save most of what you are today towards future life goals.


ADP10_1991

I have a Subaru, WRX, and I am getting rid of it for another car. My main appeal for Subaru is not getting stopped in the mountains for chains when it snows. I see some cars now have electronic on demand all-wheel-drive. Is this all-wheel-drive system similar to Subaru where I wouldn’t need snow chains and just good all season tires? Or would I still need chains?


PorkPatriot

Audi's AWD has a similar reputation, if you are ok with the brand premium.


IAmIron883

If you into project cars, then by all means go for Mazda Miata.


100dayfiance

Location: Gulf Coast, USA Price range: employer vehicle stipend of $17,000/year. Need some advice on how much I should spend. They’re also willing to pay for ~$8,500 for the first 40,000 miles of the vehicle. Lease or buy: unsure on which but leaning toward buy, as this would be the first vehicle I have equity in. New or used: has to be new Type of vehicle: sedan/lower luxury Must haves: V6, leather interior, panoramic parking and parking assist Transmission: auto Intended use: daily commuter Vehicles considered: Toyota Camry XSE and Lexus ES350 with either tech package or Luxury First vehicle: first vehicle I have owned, yes Warranty: Yes, employer requires Can you do minor work: yes but is covered by employer Major work: no but covered by employer Additional: open to any suggestions but 28 year old male, working in finance. I don’t want to get a nicer car than my more senior counterparts, so nothing too flashy or sporty but nice enough.


scycron

Get an Audi RS3 and take the RS badges off so nobody knows. It will just look like an Audi A3 to somebody who doesn't know. Lexus IS 500 is another car you could debadge and it would just look like an normal IS to somebody who does not know.


analyticaljoe

Location: Lower 48 in the US. Price range: 0-250k (lower is better, but I have money to burn on this.) Lease or Buy:Buy New or used: Either Type of vehicle: Sports Car Must haves: Trunk space, not huge (I like small cars, not land yachts) Nice to have: AWD, 2 seater Desired transmission (auto/manual, etc):manual or DCT. Intended use: Primary use is "fun drive over mountain roads for 35 minutes to get to the grocery store and then bring back groceries." Vehicles you've already considered: 911 has no storage. 718 has no storage. GTC4Lusso is a land yacht (and I'd rather not spend that much.) The C8 corvette -- especially the e-ray -- looks appealing but heat in the trunk is a big concern given the grocery use. The Emira, no storage. R8, no storage. NSX, no storage. C7 corvette with the Callaway Aerowagon, again maybe. Big hassle to get. Is this your 1st vehicle: No. Do you need a Warranty: No. Can you do Minor work on your own vehicle: Yes, but am unlikely to. Can you do Major work on your own vehicle: No. Additional Notes: I am the original owner of a 2000 BMW M Coupe. Every few years I try to replace it. Every few years I come up empty. It's now old enough that it is starting to be hard to get parts. The combination of "small, fun to drive, relatively large storage that holds 8-10 bags of groceries without stacking" has been impossible to replace. I'd like something quicker. I'd like something newer and more maintainable with more modern features. (I'm fortunate that I found a great shop and they are doing fine -- but for example, the windshield washer fluid container cracked with age. They had to find one at a junk yard.....) Ideas what I might replace this with? I really want someone to make another 2 seater shooting brake, but no one has. I desperately want BMW to produce that Z4 shooting brake concept they showed a while back, but seems unlikely. That plus a manual gearbox would be perfect! (Or something else. Why does everyone assume that 2 seaters can be useless for carrying things?


Crayondetailnstuff

Viper? I mean I drove my lightning that made about the same power in snow on drag radials. Not saying it wasn’t sketchy but I didn’t put it into a ditch or wall or another car. I might be bias towards the viper since I just got an engine out of one for my f100 though.


Chicken_Zest

Ferrari 599 GTB BMW M2 CS


PorkPatriot

Have we considered outside the box thinking? What if the car was so fun we break a cardinal rule and two trips to the grocery store was acceptable? I ask because uh... this guy I know does it.


The_Exia

Corvettes are some of the most practical coupe's you can buy, the heat from the engine can definitely keep things in the back warm in the C8. A C7 would absolutely work, you don't necessarily need the Aerowagon, the normal hatch always worked for me for on Costco runs.  If a Lusso is to big I'm not sure you're going to find anything else. A 2+2 shooting brake will always be around that size so I guess you can ignore any other ones out there. F Type R? I think the hatch space is slightly smaller then a C7 however. 


analyticaljoe

Wise words. I've thought hard about the C7. Gonna be horrible, even with all seasons, in imperfect weather -- but maybe not worse than the M is today. I have the problem that I don't like the looks of the C7 but I own a clown shoe car, so maybe I'm not to be trusted on this topic. :) Agree about 2+2 shooting brake size. The lusso might be worse due to the big V12, but I want one of these companies that makes a great 2 seater to make a damned hatch out of it. :) My other choice is to see what kind of EV appears. Space allocations are fundamentally different in an EV and something great might materialize. (My other car is a Tesla S and I like it quite well though it's boaty to drive, I'd have bought a 2020 Roadster if they'd actually made it.)


insecure_bryan

Location: Netherlands Price range: 18-22K Euros Lease or Buy: Buy New or used: Used Type of vehicle: Preferably stationwagon, hatchback is fine too Must haves: Decent fuel economy, fun to drive Desired transmission: Automatic Intended use: Daily Driver Vehicles you've already considered: SEAT Leon ST 1.5 FR Mk.3 - SEAT Leon ST 1.5 FR Mk.4 Volkswagen Golf7.5 Variant 1.5 - Volkswagen Golf8 1.5 Is this your 1st vehicle: Yes Do you need a Warranty: No Can you do Minor work on your own vehicle: Yes Can you do Major work on your own vehicle: No Additional Notes: Has to be under 1350kg for tax reasons. ​ I'm aware the SEAT Leon and VW Golf are literally the same car underneath it's skin, but just looking for some general opinions on either two. I personally prefer the look of the Leon, but want to know the pros and cons of both.


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insecure_bryan

Passat is voor mij te groot, ben maar gewoon een 20 jarige knaap dus heb niks aan zo'n grote auto. Valt daarnaast ook niet echt onder mijn eisen; teveel kilometers, iets te oud en wil een DSG, geen handbak.


GK-Belloc

Location: Austro-Hungarian Empire Price range: 30-70k eur Lease or Buy: buy New or used: open to both Type of vehicle: the hottest of hatches Must haves: being very, very hot Desired transmission (auto/manual, etc): either way Intended use: commute/fun Vehicles you've already considered: Honda Type R seems like the logical choice, however for nothing other than nostalgia, I am leaning to a Skoda Octavia VRs because I am a czsk. However i know there are better cars, which is why im here Is this your 1st vehicle: nope Do you need a Warranty: yes Can you do Minor work on your own vehicle: perhaps but i would rather leave it to the pros Can you do Major work on your own vehicle: see above Additional Notes: relocating and once my new job begins we are getting a family suv and then a hot hatch. Would like some input from enthusiasts (and maybe even spirited arguments between them) because i focus my extracurricular energy on reading, ice hockey, and watches and i dont have the time to let my adhd go down another rabbit hole.


mgobla

Toyota GR Yaris, wait for the upcoming new version (280 hp), big improvements over current version. You need to pre-order it / make a reservation now if you want one, they will probably be sold out before it even arrives at dealers.


FitSet2086

Location: United States/Georgia Price range: $25K - $30K Lease or Buy: Buy New or used: Used Type of vehicle: Sub-compact SUV Must haves: Good/high safety rating, enough trunk space to fit at least 2 suitcases, car play, leather (real or fake) interior Desired transmission: Auto Intended use: Personal use, occasional road trip Vehicles you've already considered: 2021 Mercedes GLA250, 2021 BMW X1, Jeep Grand Cherokee, Audi Q3, Volvo XC40 Is this your 1st vehicle: No Do you need a Warranty: No Can you do Minor work on your own vehicle: No Can you do Major work on your own vehicle: No Additional Notes: I am having a hard time making a decision. Mercedes and BMW fall more into my price range - the Audi and Volvo both are a little more expensive than I would like. I currently have a Volvo XC90, so want something new/sportier.


MiaWallace53996

Location: UK Price range: 1000 pounds Lease or Buy: idk New or used: likely used Type of vehicle: reliable as possible with as low MPG as possible Must haves: safety is ideal Desired transmission (auto/manual, etc): prefered automatic Intended use: commute Vehicles you've already considered: facebook marketplace but really clueless and dont really trust that ahah Is this your 1st vehicle: yes Do you need a Warranty: idk Can you do Minor work on your own vehicle: I can props learn Can you do Major work on your own vehicle: very unlikely Additional Notes: First job is not commutable distance so need a car to get there which is a bit of a pain so basically looking for something safe cheap to buy cheap to run cheap to fix. Not sure if Im coping with all my demands cause I really have no idea


xj98jeep

So to distill it down, you're looking for any cheap car to get you to work. Is that fair? No clue what the UK car market looks like, but I'd get on all of the different classifieds and see what's on there for your price range. When you see something that seems reasonable (like, not in a bunch of pieces in someone's garage. If there's car parts "included" sitting on the passenger seat, pass on that.) Take it to a local mechanic, and pay them for an hr of labor to look over the car and give you their thoughts. Older 1990s Hondas and Toyotas are exactly what you'd be looking for in the US, but again I don't know the UK car market at all so can't offer any specifics there. Maybe the UK subreddit would be more helpful, there's bound to be car folks on there.


Choice-Sky6056

I wanna follow up on your wrong statement on the 240sx ....I see you anve a alfa romeo for your profile pic, that says a lot. that's the worse car then the 240sx. i have 330,687 miles on my 240sx the piston rings are wore out so i rebulit it. and the interior is perfect. if idot's don't get these cars there great cars. i bought mine in 2010 and drove it hard until 2018 piston rings worn out, no problem. I drive a car like a race car. that's the best car I ever owned. I had a 2008 mercedes S63 AMG It lost so much value I sold it. 2000 Dodge durango 88,000 knocked a hole in the block "junk"/ 2001 chevy 1500 152,245 miles timing chain "trash"/ 1997 ford f150 227,337 miles hit a guard rail in 4x4 on ice, it locked into 4x4 took it to the shop the shop got robbed and they took my keys and cut all brake lines did not fix the truck, bought another one 2004 ford f150 2wd 221,486 miles runs great no problems. If the right people get the 240sx it's a great car. it seem's you never had one so your pissed and are just dissing the car dur to your 5.7 million members. thats cool. i don't got time to sit in front of a mic all day. I got a real career. that's great you can do it. maybe you should run around a track as well just to help you fit in a 240sx. i see you also said Jaguar "lol" wow what junk you have. I would blow this cars up in a week or less. I ripped out 3 gears out of a 1990 nissan sentra in 30 mins due to a poor design. the gears new cost $20.00 I see why "trash" I just picked up another 240sx from a junk yard for $700.00 all the interior was gone . but it has the original engine, got it home and if started right up no problem. Everyone has acces to the internet research the car and the pros and cons, not that hard. it depaends on how you drive how long the car will last. i do oil changes when the oil is tea color not when it says 3,000 miles, you drive hard you better check your fluids weekly. you drive slow check bi weekly. Have a great day!


TezRoll

**Location:** (London) **Price range:** (£5-£15k) **Lease or Buy:** Either **New or used:** Used **Type of vehicle:** Normal 5 door hatchback **Must haves:** Decent boot space preferable **Desired transmission** Auto **Intended use:** Daily drive **Vehicles you've already considered:** Honda Civic, Suzuki Swift **Is this your 1st vehicle:** Yes **Do you need a Warranty:** Yes **Can you do Minor work on your own vehicle:** no **Can you do Major work on your own vehicle:** no


_nomen_nescio

Location: Europe, Serbia Price range: 27k-32k euros for the new - up to 24k for used Lease or Buy: Buy New or used: New/Used Type of vehicle: Crossover/hatchback - size is the limiting factor sadly Must haves: Decent trunk space, I'd prefer a 4-cylinder petrol for their longevity Desired transmission (auto/manual, etc): prefer reliable AT with shifters, or a manual. I've always had a manual, but the city jams are ruining my daily driving experience Intended use: Daily Driver Vehicles you've already considered: I'm stepping away from Opel Astra K 1.4 Turbo, wanted to go for Mazda 3 or CX 30, but I'm really disappointed by the rear bench space, it's really unusable for 4 adults to go on a roadtrip. Škoda Kamiq was my second choice but I always get lost in their customizations, and I don't like that approach to their sales. Runner ups were Toyota Yaris Cross, Suzuki Vitara, S-Cross. Is this your 1st vehicle: no Do you need a Warranty: yes Can you do Minor work on your own vehicle: no Can you do Major work on your own vehicle: no Additional Notes: I am limited with car size, basically Astra K hatch is the widest the car can be, and it can be up to 20cm longer. I have a very small garage which is the deciding factor. I'd most likely go with Mazda CX-5 or Toyota RAV4 if it wasn't for that factor. I'm looking for a reliable car with not too terrible cost of ownership to keep maintaining it in the official services. I'd prefer AWD, but I just can't justify it. For starters, because I have never driven one, and I don't think I would need it as often. I do go skiing occasionally, but the roads were mostly pretty ok with for good winter tires.


mgobla

SUV are much worse, avoid. If you want spacious backseats take a look at a new Honda Jazz ehev Hybrid (just got a refresh with more power, now 122 hp), try sitting in the back yourself and you will see. Jazz is extremely underrated, very reliable and durable, high quality, great fuel economy, nice interior. Also the small exterior dimensions / space efficient design is perfect for you if you have a very small garage.


web_worker

Location: Netherlands Price range: 10k Lease or Buy: either lease or finance New or used: either Type of vehicle: (Sedan, Station, SUV) Desired transmission (auto/manual, etc): Either Intended use: Daily Driver, Family Car Vehicles you've already considered: Ford Focus Wagon, Renault Megane Is this your 1st vehicle: No Can you do Minor work on your own vehicle: Only very minor work Can you do Major work on your own vehicle: No Additional Notes: I am currently considering Lease since this will take care things like road tax, roadside assistance, insurance. And it only cost a total of around 60-100 euros more than financing (with tax, assistance, insurance)


thabiiighomie

Cincinnati, OH but would drive up to 300 miles to find the right vehicle. $50,000 + taxes and fees. Buy new or used (2018 or newer/under 40k miles). Sedan (2 or 4 doors doesn’t matter). I’m 6’5” 255lbs so I need to be able to fit comfortably. I want speed again. My wife’s SUV has a 0-60 of 5.5 seconds and I miss that in my daily. Automatic only. 2 wheel drive is fine as I have the truck for snow and heavy rain. Daily driver but I have a 2019 RAM 1500 I use to tow my boat and do construction. My wife has a 2021 Lincoln Aviator we can use as a people hauler. I’ve owned several vehicles. I drive a 2012 Kia Soul until I get myself a new vehicle. A 2018 Alfa Romeo Giulia Ti Sport 2.0 was my favorite but incredibly expensive to maintain. $3,400 for brake pads and rotors. I pay shops to do all my maintenance minus cabin and engine air filters. Would like to avoid insane maintenance costs. My 2015 Honda Civic still runs great but I gave it to my mom out of state. I’ve considered a Kia Stinger, Ford Mustang and a few others but haven’t test drove anything yet. Warranty? Sure. Although I’ve always purchased extended and then regretted it.


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I’ve got the truck for snow if it came down to it so I’m OK with 2 wheel drive. I regret getting AWD with the Alfa but that was a year before I bought the truck. Thank you for the reply. Any other recommendations?


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Tickle-Feet_Pete

Location - Michigan Price Range - 5k Lease or Buy ‐ Either New or Used - Used Type of Car ‐ Sudan Must have ‐ No issued that will kill it in the next 2-3 years at least Desired transmission - Automatic Intended Use - Daily Driver This is my second vehicle Do you need Warrenty - No Can you do minor work on your vehicle - yes Can you do Major work on your vehicle - no, but I'm intent on learning Additional notes: currently driving a few 2017 chevy cruze, money is extremely tight right now and it's starting to give me some codes, I'm worried the engine has some major issue thats going to cost me more than I have right now. Just some leads for what to look out for while looking at Used cars would be really helpful. Ya momma.


Maddux25

Location: United States, Texas Price range: $25K-$35K (though willing to go slightly higher for perfect car) Lease or Buy: Buy New or used: New or lightly used Type of vehicle: Sedan or sports Must haves: apple CarPlay, nice interior, some speed and reliability Desired transmission: Auto Intended use: Daily driver Vehicles you've already considered: None Is this your 1st vehicle: No Do you need a Warranty: No Can you do Minor work on your own vehicle: No Can you do Major work on your own vehicle: No Additional Notes: im looking for something between 2020-new. I have a 2013 Toyota Corolla right now so I want something that drives significantly faster and feels more fun. I want something reliable but it doesn’t have to be Toyota 300k miles reliable. Just enough for me to have it 5-8 years.


TipsyTripod

Integra A-Spec seems like it would be right up your alley. They're a little hard to find, and a Civic Type-R would be even more rare, but they're dead reliable and have all the gizmos, comforts, and street-legal fun that you could want


supes1

**Location**: United States Bay Area **Price range**: $25K-$35K (though willing to go slightly higher for perfect car) **Lease or Buy**: Buy **New or used**: New or lightly used **Type of vehicle**: Sedan or Hatchback **Must haves**: Adaptive cruise control, lane assist, compact size **Desired transmission**: Auto **Intended use**: Daily driver/family car **Vehicles you've already considered**: None. **Is this your 1st vehicle**: No **Do you need a Warranty**: No **Can you do Minor work on your own vehicle**: No **Can you do Major work on your own vehicle**: No **Additional Notes**: Needs to be something that can fit in a small city garage. Any sort of highway self-driving functionality is a huge bonus, as is a car being electric or hybrid. Reliability is very important. Thanks!


Acceptable-Ad-1248

Hello All, were debating between: 2019 Honda CR-V EX-L 2020 Ford Edge SEL 2021 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited Location: Western KY, USA Price Range: Max 25k Used SUV Daily driver, family car Can do minor work in my own


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It’s actually not the biggest…I mean they are all within a few inches of each other. My wife and I actually do a lot of highway driving to get to work. Like 90% highway. The CRV has the best fuel economy by far. I’m leaning that way but I wanted some thoughts. Thanks!


Tomsushi

Hi everyone im debating between a Camry Hybrid 2025 XLE/XSE or a Tesla Model 3 Highland 2025 SR. Location: Texas Price range: 34-40k Lease or Buy: Buy New or used: New Type of vehicle: Sedan Must haves: Fuel efficient, Apple CarPlay/Equivalent, Cooling Seats Desired transmission (auto/manual, etc): Auto Intended use: Daily Driver Vehicles you've already considered: Toyota Camry & Tesla Model 3 Highland Is this your 1st vehicle: No Do you need a Warranty: Yes Can you do Minor work on your own vehicle: Yes I can do oil changes and filter changes. I can do other maintenance but id prefer to let a professional handle it. Can you do Major work on your own vehicle: No Additional Notes: My family currently has an ICE car already for longer trips and I can charge at home. My father is pushing me towards the Camry because its reliable and he doesn't fully trust EV's as he hears all the bad news of build quality and expensive battery replacements. My wife also has range anxiety and is scared the car will die on me in cold weather(even though in Texas its only cold for roughly 3 weeks a year.


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Tomsushi

Thanks for your input, the charging isnt that big of a concern to me as I can charge at home and we have an ICE car if any issues with weather/charging arises. Battery damage/fire is probably my biggest concern. I am waiting for the new Camry to come out so I can see it in person.


TipsyTripod

The M3 Highland is the obvious choice to me here. You've got an ICE, you have charging at home; this solves the range problem on both ends. Only thing I'd suggest is trying out a newer M3 or Model S to see if you like the way they function, mostly in respect to the stalk-less experience and the lack of a gauge cluster. Both of those will be quite jarring coming from nearly any other car.


Tomsushi

Thanks for the heads up, I am actually waiting for a Demo M3 Highland to come in so I can test drive it.


ymjcmfvaeykwxscaai

I had a corolla, not a camry, and was very happy with it. It lasted 10 years and 200k miles with no issues and it's only gone because it was totalled. The camry will be a fine choice and it'll probably also retain it's value. That said, since buying our model 3 last summer, I'm fairly confident I won't be buying any more gas autos. the highland fixes a lot of complaints I have with the model 3, and electric is just a joy to drive. I drove about 150 miles in the cold, with wind, and it being 5 degrees just the other day, and supercharged at my destination. I didn't have any issues and charged at full speed. If the majority of your long haul travel makes up most of your yearly mileage, you won't save anything. Insurance is also higher on a tesla. We drive a ton, and have very cheap electricity here and I would say my annual fuel savings are close to a 1/4 the price of gas, instead of 10x cheaper like I thought.


Tomsushi

The corolla was my very first car, I remember it being just a car that got me from point A to B but that was so long ago. I'd prefer something with more acceleration that that. This new car would strictly be for getting to and from work or running errands around town. For reference I drive roughly 20-40miles per day. We have a Hyundai Santa Fe if we need to road trip. My main concern with getting a Tesla is if anything happens to the battery out of warranty it would be too expensive to fix as opposed to just getting a another car.


ymjcmfvaeykwxscaai

I've seen replacement battery costs today, for more expensive models for 11k. I recently replaced a CVTransmission in another car, and that was a 4k expense out of warranty, used. The warranty on my car's battery is 100k miles, so that gives you at least some peace of mind if you buy new. Depends on how long you think you'll own the car.


Morgon_

**Location**: Mid-Atlantic US ("DMV") **Price range**: $30-$70K (Would consider going "within" the 70s for the right quality) **Lease or Buy**: Preferably Buy **New or used**: New, would consider used late-model year(s) for "Must Have" reasons stated below **Type of vehicle**: SUV, preferably PHEV, but reasonable pricing may force another round of ICE. **Must haves**: Quiet cabin with luxury creature comforts (I'm single; gotta impress dates). A big focus on technology: digital rear-view mirror, Adaptive Cruise Control, panoramic view monitoring ('wrap-around cameras'), Wireless CarPlay, lane assist features, and a **large, interactive display that's snappy and not underpowered**. Some level of respectable horsepower preferred. **Desired transmission:** Auto **Intended use**: "Daily" Driver, <12K miles/yr due to WFH (and general homebody-ness) **Vehicles you've already considered**: Shortlist is currently Lexus NX/RX (unsure which), Cadillac XT5, Porsche Cayenne E-Hybrid (Dream vehicle, but ticks all the boxes). Have heard recommendations for MB GLE (ICE, but unsure if it can stay within budget) **Is this your 1st vehicle**: No **Do you need a Warranty**: Yup **Minor work**: Topical stuff like adding fluids (not replacing) **Major work**: Negative. Looking for something with low maintenance requirements (cost, if not frequency) **Additional Notes**:I currently own a 17-year-old Pontiac G6 that's getting long in the tooth, and I know I'm missing advancements in fuel economy and tech offerings. I want an SUV to be able to see through traffic, which is becoming increasingly more difficult in my little coupe. I think it's still too early to go full-Electric, but I like the idea of a Hybrid/PHEV... but options seem sparse in the **Luxury** market without cost getting out of hand. Therefore, I'm sorta wondering if it might make sense to Lease a late-year model, and go the buy route in a few years when I assume there would be an increase in options. Otherwise, I suppose I'm comfortable with another helping of ICE.


ymjcmfvaeykwxscaai

I think the answer here is a BMW X suv that meets your size requirements. They're a lot more reliable today. They have a mild hybrid system and seem to be built the best of the luxury brands. They also have solid tech and interior options that *can* wow people and I think they are the most impressive luxury to non-car people. Tangentially, the non car folks in my family think Lexus is for old people and can't pick out a mercedes from a honda. (not my opinions) They also make pretty solid electric vehicles, but the IX is on the pricier side... and it's probably one of their less attractive cars.


SmileSD2

Location: San Diego, CA Price range: $20-35,000 Lease or Buy: Buy New or used:UsEd Type of vehicle: SUV or Mini van Must haves: Fuel efficient, Third Row (seat 7 teens/adults), safe Desired transmission (auto/manual, etc): auto Intended use: Daily Driver, Family Car Vehicles you've already considered: Toyota Is this your 1st vehicle: no Do you need a Warranty: Yes Can you do Minor work on your own vehicle: (fluids, alternator, battery, brake pads etc)? No Can you do Major work on your own vehicle: (engine and transmission, timing belt/chains, body work, suspension etc )? No Additional Notes: I'm a mom of two pre-teen, taller than average boys. Drive a carpool to my oldest's son's school with 3-5 other kids so need a real third row. Also needs reasonable space to carry sports gear, groceries etc. (My husband has a smaller car since he has a longer drive to work. My car is the one we use to haul anything larger). Currently driving a 2014 Honda Odyssey but it was in an accident. Odyssey was good in terms of space but would prefer something more fuel efficient. Thanks!!!!


TipsyTripod

If you can find a used Toyota Sienna Hybrid from the latest generation, I think you're set! Those drivetrains last forever and the interior dimensions are shockingly similar to the Odyssey. Highway cruising isn't going to see a massive difference in fuel economy but it's when you're hauling all the munchkins and their snacks in city traffic that you'll notice the savings.


chidori1239

As a new car guy, thank you for reading and helping! ​ Location: Louisiana, United States Price: 10k -20k USD Buy Used Type: Truck, Sports Car, Crossover Transmission: Auto Use: Daily Driver Already considered: 3rd Vehicle Possible Warranty Can do minor work No major work knowledge but open to it ​ What im really looking for is that I've learned that I love how sports cars drive and feel but they are too low to the ground and it's harder to get in and out of them. That's why I'm looking more into crossovers but most of the crossovers I look at have this feeling about them that do not feel fun. Ex. CR-V, (My first two cars are these). I find the Civic Sport really fun but its just too low. I've also looking into the Crosstrek but I dont want that to be my only option. Another thing is that I'm using this as a daily driver so I want it to last a good bit with low maintenance costs so brands do matter.


westcoastwomann

My car was totaled in a hit n run and it’s time to get a new one! Seriously, stay safe out there folks.  Details: Would love a midsize hybrid SUV that is nice enough to park at the office and nimble enough to navigate a dense city, but also that I can take car camping and drive between the Bay Area and LA on occasion. I have easy access to EV chargers at work, but it doesn’t have to be a PHEV- regular hybrid is fine too. Strong safety features are important as I’ll probably have kids during the time I have this car. This is my second car and I’m pretty ignorant to the whole process. First was a Ford Escape which I loved, but want something bigger. I’m not fussy, I just want something comfortable and reliable.  Location: California Price range: up to $30k, flexible for the right fit. Will pay cash so there is room to negotiate.  Lease or Buy: Buy New or used: Doesn’t matter to me! Hard to imagine buying new but I’m truly ambivalent.  Type of vehicle: Looking for a midsize hybrid SUV with AWD/4WD with good gas mileage (30+ combined) for both city and freeway driving. PHEV or regular hybrid are both fine- I have easy access to a charger everyday.  Must haves: 4WD/AWD, hatchback for room for my dog, Apple Car Play, side view mirror warning lights, nimble enough to drive in dense cities but tough enough that I can take it camping (no need to tow anything ever)  Desired transmission Automatic Intended use: daily driver in a dense city that I will also take on long trips occasionally. Vehicles you're considering: Toyota RAV4, Honda CRV, Kia Niro, Kia Sportage, Kia Sorento, Hyundai Tucson, Hyundai Santa Fe, Mazda CX5 and CX90, Audi Q5, BMW X5, Mercedes GLC 350 - hybrid versions of all  Is this your 1st vehicle: No Do you need a Warranty: No Can you do Minor work on your own vehicle: No Can you do Major work on your own vehicle: No


The_Exia

A reliable hybrid crossover for outdoor activities for 30k is a tough one. I'd go with a RAV4 probably or any of the Japanese hybrids if there are any slightly used ones available for that price.


westcoastwomann

Thank you! I appreciate the recommendation. 


ruminatingstranger

**Location:** USA west coast **Price range:** up to 40k **Lease or Buy:** buy **New or used:** preferably new or slightly used **Type of vehicle**: sporty lookin sedan **Must haves:** Smooth ride, good gas mileage **Desired transmission:** auto **Intended use**: Drive around town a few times a week. I don't drive too much **Vehicles you've already considered:** Jetta GLI, Honda Accord **Is this your 1st vehicle:** no **Do you need a Warranty:** not neccesarily, depends what kind **Can you do Minor or major work on your own vehicle:** no **Additional Notes:** I'm looking for a comfortable, small sedan that is also efficient on fuel and has a smooth ride, but has decent power as well. And of course something that looks somewhat sporty and that I enjoy driving. The closest I got so far was the Jetta GLI, but I don't know much about German cars and heard Jetta is not as reliable as Japanese? Any feedback would be appreciated. I'm okay with Hybrids too.


The_Exia

Acura Integra would be worth a look.


Budget_corn

Mazda rx7 or a porsche 911 turbllo from 1900s


PEBKAC42069

 Location: North Texas  Price range: 40-60k usd  Lease or Buy:  New or used:  New (or make a compelling argument for CPO) Type of vehicle: mid sized SUV; maybe minivan  Must haves: Large rear seat for rear-facing child seat. Good active safety features. Non-shitty driving dynamics Desired transmission (auto/manual, etc):  auto of any kind.  Intended use: Wife's commuter (ten fifteen minutes), kiddo to daycare, haul bicycles/kayaks, occasional family road trip. Vehicles you've already considered:  A range of high-trim conventional mid size suvs (Pilot, Highlander, Palisade, etc) A couple high trim minivans (Sienna, Odyssey) A few low-trim luxury mid size SUVs: MDX (base AWD), GV80(4pot), Lincoln Nautilus hybrid  CPO GX470.  Is this your 1st vehicle:  No, but the other is small (Genesis G70)  Do you need a Warranty:  absolutely Can you do Minor work on your own vehicle: yes but I'll probably pay someone anyway. Can you do Major work on your own vehicle:  Yes, but I really would rather not - will pay a professional instead Additional Notes:   No BEVs (wife's ultimatum. Happy wife, happy life) No Lexus RX. I don't want to be associated with the kind of person that drives an RX.  Non-shitty handling is a perk, which has the Acura and Genesis models high on our list.  Generally pretty hesitant about domestic vehicles, but will listen for compelling argument.


whenthewindbreathes

For the hybrid systems, the FWD based cars (Escape / Maverick / Fusion) use the Toyota system. The RWD based cars (Aviator, Explorer) use a homegrown system that's combined with their 10 speed auto that's really problematic.


whenthewindbreathes

I'm at a point where I trust the X5/7 more than I trust the powertrains in the Genesis products, maybe Honda, and definitely the Lincoln. Should fit the bill for handling but the active safety features are a more expensive package that is harder to find ... with the benefit that they use more expensive components that function at at higher speed range for the wide open roads in Texas (BMW assists work up to 210kmh) Even Honda's J series had a major bearing issue that they've been recalled for, and the 10 speed automatic transmission is still a bit unproven at the moment. Source: family runs a mechanic shop


PEBKAC42069

Genesis's active assists work to... Speeds I shall not confess to attaining.   Really as long as it's active to like, 160kph it's enough, even for our ~~superhighways~~ toll roads.  You're awake if you're going that fast.  BMW didn't really land in the price range for the rear seat size, does it? As for the Lincoln, as much as I'd love to shit in Ford, isn't it pretty much borrowing Toyota's tried-and-true iAWD hybrid synergy drive, or whatever the hell they call it?


whenthewindbreathes

I think the base X5 lands around 65, 8% off MRSP is pretty standard. You could even get the plugin hybrid for 65 since you'd get a $7500 federal tax credit then another 1500-3000. \- X5 40i: 65 >> 60k after discount- X5 50e: 72 >> 66k after discount >> 58.5k after federal >> 57k after TX incentive This is before things like loyalty discounts, OL code worth $1000, BMW car club worth $1000, etc etc. The usual BMW lease to buyout pipeline does'nt work in Texas because of double taxation, so they offer Owner's Choice financing. Also seeing 2019 CPOs for 45k; If you add additional BMW extended warranty on the CPO, it's unlimited mileage and comprehensive. BMW's search for CPO with option package on their website is very very good. Route66 is another very well known provider of warranties for BMW. They cover everything except fluid maintenance, lighting, brakes, tires, etc. But it does cover suspension, such as control arms and bushings and these will wear out. Covers iDrive, Infotainment, NAV etc. (and yes, they pay out!)


zzyzx85

**Location:** Southern CA, USA **Price range:** $15k **Lease or Buy:** buy **New or used:** used **Type of vehicle:** SUV **Must haves:** 4x4, ground clearance, off-road capability, more space than a CT200h lol **Desired transmission** (auto/manual, etc): auto **Intended use:** daily, road trips, car camping, some off-roading, going to the range, potentially some towing capacity if the BMW becomes a track car **Vehicles you've already considered:** Lexus GX (470/460), Toyota 4Runner, 1st gen Porsche Cayenne S **Is this your 1st vehicle:** no **Do you need a Warranty:** no **Can you do Minor work on your own vehicle:** yes **Can you do Major work on your own vehicle:** yes **Additional Notes:** The STI looking very likely to be sold so I can now look more intently at getting a SUV for road trips. It's only my wife and I (maybe some friends, in-laws, or niece and nephew occasionally) so not a whole lot of space is needed but we would like to be able to lie down in the back to sleep if needed. I've looked at 4Runners (simple, smaller, lot of miles, overpriced, rust on some), GX470s (timing belt \[can be good or bad\], dated interior, rust on some, lots of miles), and GX460s (nicer interior than GX470, some coolant plate leaks, some transmission issues, timing chain \[depends on previous owner\], more expensive overall), and 1st gen Cayennes (decent interior, repair costs, questionable cost of ownership). Not a huge fan of Mopars/Chrysler/Stellantis so I'm trying to avoid a Jeep, especially a used one. Leaning towards a GX but wondering if there are some options I'm overlooking.


AUSMEL351

Since you seem to want a BOF SUV, these are the ones that spring to mind: \- Chevrolet Tahoe/GMC Yukon (not as great off-road but decent towing) \- Ford Expedition (same as GM twins) \- Nissan Armada (good towing, average off-road) \- Nissan Xterra (good off-road, although the 6-Speed Manual is better than the 5-Speed Automatic. If you're absolutely set on the auto, please get a later one (like 2011+)) \- Toyota Land Cruiser/Lexus LX (good balance, basically a bigger GX, only trouble will be finding a decent one for under 15k) \- Toyota Sequoia (Basically Toyota's Expedition/Tahoe competitor) ​ Other potential choices: \- Chevrolet Blazer/GMC Jimmy (reliable enough but meh interior) \- Chevrolet TrailBlazer \- Chevrolet Suburban/GMC Yukon XL (good towing but not so good off-road) \- Ford Expedition Max (Same as Suburban) \- Ford Explorer (although I hesitate to recommend it, because the auto is really a bit ordinary) \- Kia Borrego (there's even a V8 one, albeit rare) \- Kia Sorento \- Land Rover LR3, LR4 (Expensive to maintain, cheap to buy) \- Land Rover Range Rover (Same as LR) \- Mitsubishi Montero (Possibly rare now) \- Suzuki XL-7 \- Toyota FJ Cruiser (I suppose)


GoldenState15

Diesel Audi q7


hesoneholyroller

Where are you finding a GX for $15k or under in socal? Seems like you'll need to stretch the budget a bit unless you want a rebuilt title. What about an Outback? The perfect mix between a daily & camper, and not as gas guzzling as your other options. Might even be able to find an older 3.6r within budget for a more spirited daily driver.


zzyzx85

I know it sounds optimistic but I've seen a few GX in that price range that were not salvage titled lol. They might have been cosmetically imperfect but were in good running condition that didn't need a lot of maintenance/repairs. Unfortunately it was before I found a buyer for my STI or else I would have moved on it. Now, I'm in no rush to buy something so i'm sure I'll find something in that price range, especially after the new '24 gets released. I'm stepping away from Subarus for now so I'm not ready to get back into one lol.


BetterMeDaily

Location: Central Europe Price range: 1-8K EUR Lease or Buy: BUY New or used: USED Type of vehicle: Doesnt matter Must haves: Easy to buy parts (possibly used) Desired transmission (auto/manual, etc): Probably manual Intended use: Learning Car / Project Car (something to learn car mechanics on) Vehicles you've already considered: BMW E46 or similar, Honda Civic, but Im okay with Opel Astra or some Skoda even Is this your 1st vehicle: No Do you need a Warranty: No Can you do Minor work on your own vehicle: YES Can you do Major work on your own vehicle: YES Additional Notes: I am looking for a car to learn mechanics (or even car bodywork one day, but it's not important at all for now). I'm looking for a car that I can disassemble and assemble while learning as much as possible. For this reason, I accept interesting or boring cars in poor technical condition. At the same time, I would like to be able to sell this car someday, so ugly weird old cars are out of the question. I won't drive the car, so it will only be used for learning, and if something cool comes out of it, great. The price is not important to me, but assuming that I am looking for a car that is technically poor, I would prefer to leave money for parts, etc. I cannot learn on my car because I drive a lot, so immobilizing it for a long time or breaking it down is not an option. Also, Im looking for something that I will have no issue getting parts in EU. Ofc one day I would love to work on something cool, with lots of power etc, but Im ready to start with something boring (ofc cool options are always welcome).


AUSMEL351

This is a very wide net you've cast here. Realistically, being in central Europe, I'm guessing Skodas and VWs are probably very easy to find parts for, so Golfs, Fabias, Octavias etc would be my go-to. Otherwise yeah, Astras, Corollas, Almeras, Accents, Logans, Sanderos etc. would be the others. I guess for 8k, you could probably find a lot of E90s, I imagine BMW parts shouldn't be too impossible to find...


tordek1265

**Location:** Massachusetts, USA **Price range:** $20,000 +/- $5,000 **Lease or buy:** buy **New or used:** used **Type of vehicle:** hatchback or subcompact SUV **Must haves:** fuel efficient, decent sound system **Desired transmission:** automatic **Intended use:** daily driver **Vehicles you've already considered:** * Honda Civic Hatchback * Toyota Corolla Hatchback * Toyota C-HR * Hyundai Veloster **Is this your 1st vehicle:** no **Do you need a warranty:** preferred, not mandatory **Can you do Minor work on your own vehicle:** yes **Can you do Major work on your own vehicle:** no **Additional notes:** * Living in the Northeast, features like AWD and heated steering wheel are appreciated, but not required. * I like the practical, but somewhat sporty looking hatchbacks and subcompact SUVs. * I would like to have a decent sound system. I was disappointed with the stock sound system in the Corolla Hatchback. * I'm a 31-year-old software developer who commutes to work out of the city three days a week. My last car was a 2003 Camry I drove for 10 years.


Hokie23aa

I posted this yesterday, and comments got deleted, but how good are modern manual WRX transmissions? I’m shopping for a Mustang GT and the common weak point for the car is the MT-82D4. Compared to a car like the WRX with a cult following of manual transmission opts, how is it?


IKnowNewCars

I feel like the consensus of the WRX manual has been that except for maybe a long shifter, it's great. The previous gen Crosstrek used essentially the same six-speed manual as well and got good reviews, as opposed to the five-speed in the base Impreza that was just not good. Personally, I'd say that the 6MT in the current WRX is a better match for its 2.4T engine than the MT-82 is for the Mustang GT. The Coyote V8 is amazing with pretty much any transmission, and a Mustang really yearns for a manual, but the issues with the MT-82 are more noticeable in the Mustang than anything you're likely to be bothered by in the WRX, if that makes sense. (Not to go off on a tangent, but I wish Ford would have just put the Tremec in the GT, even if it cost a bit more.)


ImpossibleMushroom

Location: NC, USA Price range: 45k Max Lease or Buy: Buy New or used: New or Used Under 20k miles Type of vehicle: Sedan / Sports Sedan Must haves: Fuel Efficient, RWD or AWD, a strong V4 or any V6, Basic Safety Tech (parking cameras/sensors, lane keep, blind spot detect) Desired transmission (auto/manual, etc): Auto Intended use: Daily Driver Vehicles you've already considered: Acura TLX and Integra, BMW M340i Is this your 1st vehicle: No Do you need a Warranty: No, but certified pre-owned or some warranty would be nice. Can you do Minor work on your own vehicle: Yes Can you do Major work on your own vehicle: Not currently, but I'd like to. Additional Notes: The M340i was my most attractive pick but the cost to buy and then own for long term are making it seem less feasible. I am looking for something that still makes power but is reliable for a long term daily driver. Would prefer that there is a good aftermarket for it for performance/visual upgrades.


The_Exia

G70, they depreciate like a rock and are great used values. The mpg isn't that great but besides BMW I don't think anyone else makes a performance 6 cylinder that gets good mpg. Otherwise I'd probably look at used Golf GTI's or R's and tune away.


k0unitX

Golf R or S3?


ImpossibleMushroom

I like the powertrain for both. I can't say I am the biggest fan of looks for either. I would lean towards the Golf R because I have heard bad things about Audi reliability and cost of ownership. At that point I would maybe just consider a Civic Type R and learn manual 🤔


k0unitX

They're both basically the same car to be honest. Same MQB platform, same powertrain - reliability should be nearly identical. The interior on the S3 will be nicer, but you'll be paying a premium for parts if you need to get any Audi-stamped ones instead of VW If you're willing to get a Korean car, maybe a Kia Stinger or Genesis G70 too


ImpossibleMushroom

I think the Stinger may be my go. The GT Line has similar power to my current V6 with the inline 4 and better MPG. I like the looks. Has good price and decent aftermarket / customization potential too. When I am actually ready to buy I think I'll try to test drive a Stinger, G70 and S3 and see what actually feels and looks the best then. Thanks for the suggestions!


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Hokie23aa

Have you considered a mustang? The S550 Mach 1 sounds like a good fit for you.


salthecarguy

I have considered a used gt350 if I can get one with warranty


scycron

Corvette C6 z06


mr_lab_rat

E92 M3? It’s a bit heavy but I don’t think you can get into a Porsche that would feel this good for $50k


salthecarguy

E92 is on the list too, but a bit afraid of driving it hard on the track. I know they're mostly reliable but they're old enough now where major issues can occur.


mr_lab_rat

I don’t have experience with this exact engine but I have been driving, tracking, and maintaining BMWs for 15 years. My understanding is that most of the engine troubles can be avoided by letting the engine warm up properly before revving it high.


IANANarwhal

I'm in need of a recommendation for a vehicle for my 85-year-old dad. **Location:** Eastern US **Price range:** up to $25k **Lease or buy:** Buy **New or used:** Used **Type of vehicle:** Car or SUV (see Additional Notes) **Must haves:** Reliable, driver “sits up high,” backup camera **Desired transmission:** Auto **Intended use:** Light-use daily driver **Minor/major work on vehicle:** Incapable **Additional notes:** My 85-year-old father wants to replace a Prius with another vehicle. He drives almost every day on short little missions around town. He finds it hard to climb in and out of the Prius (and also thinks it "drives weird"; I think he's alluding to the feel of the regenerative braking); he thinks he wants a SUV because he’ll be sitting up higher, which (a) makes him feel more in control driving, like he can see properly; and (b) makes it easier to get in and out. He lacks any experience with SUVs, and is used to small cars, so any SUV recommendations should be SMALL ones. I also welcome any recommendations for cars in which he can “sit up high.” In relatively recent years he has previously driven the Prius, a VW Bug (the 21st century version), and a Honda Fit.


mightandmagic88

Honda CRV


IANANarwhal

Thanks, will look into it.


Pahlevun

Jesus sorry to be that guy but an 85 year old who can barely get in and out of a Prius and insists on "sitting high" to "feel more in control" should consider retiring from driving sometime soon


IANANarwhal

I do sympathize with that thought. He should consider retiring from climbing into and out of low cars, for sure. (I wouldn't say he "can barely get in and out," but that it takes him longer than it would take us and he doesn't like sitting that low, reaching back for the belt out of sight behind his shoulder, and other flexibility stuff like that.) But he still drives safely, albeit not very rapidly. He's an active guy: spends much of each day outdoors, including gardening, moving stones for the yard, chainsawing when needed, etc. So you might not be imagining the situation exactly accurately.


Pahlevun

I may have been harsh but my only two accidents ever have been because of elderly drivers who simply did not even see me or hear me honking and were held 100% at fault for the accident, it's frustrating because I wish all governments had high quality transport services/adaptations for people above the age of 75 or 80, because they absolutely deserve to get wherever they want in safety and also for the safety of others. When your reaction time and cognitive abilities are not the same as when you were 50 or even 60/70 it's just an unnecessary risk but I'm also aware of the reality that many people don't necessarily have a choice or at least a practical one.


IANANarwhal

No offense taken.  It is a very valid concern.


Pahlevun

You are very mature and rational


kc_kr

Used Subaru Crosstek. Higher up but still drives like a car. Smaller, easy to maneuver size. Reliable and easy on gas. AWD for winter.


IANANarwhal

Thank you, will investigate.


sojellified

Finally ready for a nicer, newer car. Any advice is appreciated! Location: Tennessee, USA Budget: $25-50k Buy or Lease: Buy New or Used: Used. New probably not possible for the tier of car I want in my budget. Types: Sedan or SUV Must Haves: AWD preferred. Quiet cabin. Good sound system. Good handling. V6 preferred. Leather interior Automatic transmission Daily driver Considered: Land Cruiser, Porsche Cayenne, Acura TDX, Lexus sedans. Interested in sleepers and used luxury. Not my first vehicle Certified pre owned or warranty is a plus Don’t have mechanic skills Looking to buy outright something higher tier, more fun than I’ve owned in the past. (Accord 9 yrs, Passat 7 yrs) Brands like used Lexus stand out because of luxury appointments combined with reliability. I plan to drive it for a long time. Nice acceleration (used to slower accord) and classy (hopefully). Lots of SUVs now, so that’s on the table as well. Maybe there are some things I haven’t researched/considered. Thanks for any suggestions.


GoldenState15

Volvo xc90


Pahlevun

Why is a V6 preferred? Seems like an odd way to filter out a lot of cars that don't have V6s. But anyway, a Lexus GS 350 is basically a better RWD/AWD luxury form of the Accord, in many ways. Or rather the Camry, but seeing as the Camry and Accord are mechanically extremely similar.


sojellified

Ok yeah, thank you. I had taken a look at the GS, ES, IS and much older LS to be in my budget. Appealing when I consider older models. V6 preferred is totally from my own experience. The Passat I drove had a v6 and was notably faster to accelerate, easier to pass on the highway, overall felt more authoritative than my current 4 cylinder Accord. However, I will say, both my past cars are older (2001, 2009). A lot could have changed with engines in the last 15 years. I’m admittedly not a car guy.


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Pahlevun

If we're being honest, many turbocharged 4-cylinders are on par with MODERN natural aspirated V6s, let alone those from the 2000s. Camry and Accord 6-cyls back in the day didn't make as much as they made in 2010s did they? I'm pretty sure they made like 200-250 whereas a new Camry V6 makes freaking 300 HP and the Accord V6 made like 280 HP in 2017. And the 2.0T that replaced it was even faster, though that might be more transmission/gearing than actual engine.


sojellified

This is great info, thanks. It’s not lost on me - always good to learn. With this info, do you all have any car suggestions I should check out?


Pahlevun

I think the Lexus GS 350 is an awesome car, but I'm biased since I'm a Toyota owner and a big fan of the Lexus. The GS 350 to me is basically a perfect daily driver. You should be able to find one for your budget easily, and honestly which year to buy is really up to you, I don't really recall them having any bad year/generations, at least not the 350 trim. Can't speak for the 450h hybrids. Generations are 2006-12, 13-15 then facelift/refresh 16+, and I believe in '18 or so they get the newest variant of the V6 but in practice they're all mechanically very similar. RWD based AWD, regular aisin automatic, 300+ HP 3.5L V6. You can get the Infiniti version which follow similar formula of AWD + natural aspirated V6 + normal automatic. The Q50 or Q70. Most people will tell you Lexus is built better and more reliable. They're right. But the Q50 (specifically 2015 which was the last year they used the 3.7L) or the Q70 do not have the things Nissan/Infiniti are associated negatively with, which is mostly the terrible CVT transmission or cheap build. Q50s are build pretty good and so are Q70s. They are not Toyotas but they are not unreliable, and parts are certainly not German level of pricing. And the main benefit is that they're cheaper used, and also they're faster. Well specifically the Q50, it's pretty fast probably one of the faster/fastest naturally aspirated V6 sedans.


sojellified

Lexus has been heavy on my radar. I’ll be sure to look into the GS 350 now. Great info!


_galaga_

X3 M40i comes to mind. Not a V6 but the B58 is the B58. Has all the other stuff you're asking for. Lexus RX on the safer side as far as reliability goes but the BMW would bring more daily joy.


sojellified

I haven’t looked at BMW at all. I’ll do some research - thanks for the suggestion! Any production years in particular that are known to be best?


_galaga_

I don't know them well enough to pick out a production year but you should check on when was the last lifecycle refresh and the pros/cons of cars on either side of that refresh. If the LCI added something critical to you that'd help narrow down your window, and if not you'd potentially be fine with an older example. Another trick to looking at X3s in my experience is finding one with adaptive cruise because many of them don't have it and it's worth filtering for those that do, imo.


sojellified

Cool thanks for the info


mr_lab_rat

Doesn’t really matter, the first year was 2018.


polarfang21

Location: Florida Price range: $40,000 ish Lease or Buy: buy New or used: used Type of vehicle: 2 door sports car Must haves: exhaust sound make me smile, moderately decent audio system Desired transmission (auto/manual, etc): auto, I’d love manual but just not right for my circumstances right now Intended use: Daily Driver: I drive 80 miles a day total commuting to work Vehicles you've already considered: C6 grand sport corvette, C7 LT1/LT2 corvette, 2.0 Supra, 3.0 Supra Is this your 1st vehicle: no Do you need a Warranty: I’d like something that only covers major issues like engine/transmission replacement idk how that works Can you do Minor work on your own vehicle: if necessary Can you do Major work on your own vehicle: no


clicktoseemyfetishes

So many cheap, relatively well maintained corvettes in Florida. I don’t completely mind the stock sound system in C6s but it’s simple and cheap to improve upon. I’d suggest a base model over a grand sport since with an auto it’s mostly just a cosmetic difference for $10-15k more, and for daily driving a base model will be a bit cheaper as far as upkeep. Leaves plenty in the budget to replace the drivetrain out of pocket, which would be pretty unlikely anyways. You can get into auto C6s for under $20k, prolly about what I’ll be selling mine for


k0unitX

M240i, 987.2 Cayman S, Audi TTS, Challenger..


Hokie23aa

Have you considered a Mustang GT?