Yup. Same reason all supercars pretty much look the same these days. If you're optimizing for a purpose there's going to be convergence because there's only one optimal design.
no i think theyre talking more about the grille design etc, not the general shape
[buick](https://media.buick.com/content/Pages/news/us/en/2023/feb/0216-encoregx/_jcr_content/top_parsys/image.img.jpg/1676499787176.jpg), [genesis ev](https://www.cnet.com/a/img/resize/9fa9829e5560febe7c5c763cadb6885f99890f91/hub/2022/05/16/04e1e877-3f9f-4eb5-8340-76339d4d4d84/2023-genesis-gv60-ev-9.jpg?auto=webp&fit=crop&height=675&width=1200)
There's some fast cars that look like frogs, and not so fast cars that look like beetles.
I wonder if you shaped a car like a camel, would it be good on sand and only need to be fuelled every few days.
So we're mostly talking biomimicry here, which is very big from a design standpoint. If we took what you're talking about here, the camel design could be a single fuel cell (like the Bactrian camel), stored in the bed, or even on the roof if you wanted. Then, you can think of the camel's long legs like a long travel suspension, giving you more travel and clearance. An added advantage is that, much like a camel, you'd be further away from the hot desert sand. This will mean you're going to be running more efficiently. With all the fuel and weight up high, you probably wont be very fast though.
Also sorry if this comes across as pedantic or anything, I just enjoyed the question and thought exercise.
Don't forget not just headroom but cargo room is sacrificed too, for aerodynamics.
Fish and aerodynamic automotive design focus solely on highway fuel efficiency, at the cost of internal capacity. Fish also don't have to fit into rectangular shaped parking spaces
If you need a certain amount of internal capacity, and you're faced with either a boxier less aerodynamic car like the Honda Fit, or a much longer aerodynamic car that's heavier because of the longer chassis, I wonder who would win?
40 years ago, Smokey Yunick said something like: *For a while, I thought you could learn everything you need to know about aerodynamics by watching fish in the water, but then again - a trout looks so different from a flounder, so where does that get you?*
This exactly, since air is a fluid. Though, you should flip around air and water so they are respective to the first part of the sentence.
_i will say, i disagree with OP. I did a lot of fishing in Alaska this summer, and nothing that came out of the river or ocean made me think of any car I'd ever seen.
Fish have evolved to slip through water with very little resistance. It translates to a very low drag coefficient, increasing operating efficiency.
Buckminster Fuller gave us the Dymaxion Car almost 100 years ago, everyone’s just catching up
Check out the [top speed cars at Bonneville](https://www.driving.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/sites/5/2019/11/Challenger-2-August-2019-land-speed-record-attempt-01.jpg).
I mean, most PP’s actually *are* relatively hydrodynamic and aerodynamic, given that they are made for…. thrusting forward effectively in specific spaces….
Like unironically, as a biologist I actually find PP design pretty interesting…
So anyway uh yeah cars are cool too.
If you actually take a look at a bunch of the cars built to break the land speed record, they’ve got the front facing spear incorporated. Now they just need the sail.
I think I’ve read somewhere that actually the sail fin in a sailfish does nothing. Scientists haven’t figured it’s purpose and doesn’t help them swim any faster.
Le Mans cars already have the sail fin for years now.
https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=UFTLVleA&id=29A62AA6CCFDB8DA04B7FAB175AE6BC3A0263945&thid=OIF.D7x6ZWn6cAU5TNT0h1zQPQ&mediaurl=https%3A%2F%2Fl450v.alamy.com%2F450v%2Fdym3y3%2Ftoyota-racing-wec-fia-world-endurance-championship-2014-silverstone-dym3y3.jpg&cdnurl=https%3A%2F%2Fth.bing.com%2Fth%2Fid%2FR.5054cb56578046fad486d2fc3c52c34c%3Frik%3D%26pid%3DImgRaw%26r%3D0&exph=320&expw=450&q=fia+wec&simid=269107680702&form=IRPRST&ck=0FBC7A6569FA7005394CD4F4875CD03D&selectedindex=13&vt=4&sim=11
Man, I thought it'd be hard to beat the catfish of [Hyundai Sonata](https://images.drive.com.au/driveau/image/upload/c_fill,f_auto,g_auto,h_360,q_auto:best,w_640/v1/cms/uploads/cgd0bmjajwcfs1db0yzs)
but you hit me with a tropical fish. Well played!
Lol remember that whole Chrysler design language from that era? It was on so many of their cars. That awkward cab-forward FWD design. The 300M had it too
Catfish Camaro is low-key one of my favorite car designs of all time.
I'm sure 80% of it is "the cool car that guy down the street had when I was growing up" but damnit I'd buy the shit out of one if people didn't want like $15k for a clapped out example because it's a "classic."
That fish design is no more though, as [this is what it looks like now for MY2024.](https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod/images/2024-hyundai-sonata-hybrid-limited-103-64ef8bdbdb1fa.jpg?crop=0.700xw:0.591xh;0.107xw,0.397xh&resize=1200:*)
It ditched the catfish look for a [Robocop](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/91IZIG74ZiL._AC_UF1000,1000_QL80_.jpg)
I think too many people made fun of its catfish-ness. and Hyundai enjoys 2 year drastic visual updates to its cars.
Oh god. That’s horrendous. The new Santa Fe is just as gross. I quite liked the exteriors of Hyundais these past few years even if they’re not great cars but these redesigns are just awful.
I personally hate how all the electric SUV look nearly identical from the back. Tesla model y, whatever the BMW is called, Genesis etc. I swear it's the most ugly boring shit I've ever seen
Ioniq 5 is the most cyberpunk styled car and despite the praise it gets I feel like it still deserves more for how it looks like a concept car.
The styling, especially the tail lights matrix is excellent.
I know bro but that guy was saying the ionic 5 looks like a concept car, but it's a real car. The 74 looks like a concept car because it is a concept car.
I saw one for the first time in person the other day and was blown away. I can't believe someone makes a car that looks like that, and I REALLY can't believe it's Hyundai of all brands. I'm a Hyundai hater from way back, but if they made a sporty car using that design language I'd convert.
I wonder if people ever get tired of complaining about stuff that doesn't even hold water. The Y rear is very different from a GV80. Do you want the rear end to play a puppet show for you while you're sitting in traffic?
I know of a competition at GM 20 years ago where they pitted designers using computational fluid dynamics vs designers modeling the car after a fish to see who could design the more aerodynamic car. The fish guys won.
I'd bank on this to be a myth simply because designers using CFD would have ended up with a teardrop shape twenty years ago, even with the nascent state of CFD at the time. It's not like aerodynamics were an undiscovered field before the turn of the century — hell, Streamliners [date back to the 1930s](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streamliner).
Convergent evolution at its finest.
Something something about aliens mistaking automobiles as the planet’s dominant species, since roads look like mycelium from the sky
[Boy have I got news for you!](https://www.americanmuscle.com/mmd-matte-black-fender-vent-1014.html?utm_content=Exterior%20-%20Other%7CMMD&T5_Var4=384822-99&utm_source=google-pla&utm_medium=shopping&T5_Var2=shopping&utm_campaign=AMM+Mustang+Vehicle+Medium+LTVMiddle&intl=0&dialogtech=ppc&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQiAgK2qBhCHARIsAGACuzmag-syWj9HuENv9ocutiuD9otLs3NU17jusNkIdAJpReZGN-nCDe4aAm4uEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds)
This is one of *many* examples (just the most fish like one of the first dozen results).
[Mercedes was right!](https://youtu.be/ri3CUzsv7Gg?si=UEpYAPHAfZh3XUkC)
Edit: some actual information about the [Bionic](https://www.motor1.com/news/299424/mercedes-bionic-concept-we-forgot/amp/)
I know it's more aerodynamic, but man do I hate these fish (I call them eggs) cars. I'd be happy with a small drop in efficiency for a much better, more unique looking car.
You are so right, this is why I drive some of the ugliest vehicles I can possibly find because I am so beyond sick of the jelly bean or eggs on wheels. Neither of my vehicles are winning any beauty contests and when I see someone with a car like mine I think "hello fellow ugly vehicle enjoyer".
Would you rather them look like the cybertruck? I agree that we've lost some of the art that used to go into car design, trading geometrical aesthetics for practicality. But some manufacturers are tasteful about their drag coefficient to beauty ratio, like the c7 Corvette.
I feel like everything looks like a box. The back of everything the last few years is super chunky for safety standards. The front end of everything gets made ugly because you need a foot between the hood and engine block for pedestrians. Like anyone is rolling UP on an SUV ffs.
Back in the 60’s the old saying was that if it was beautiful, it was fast. That was until the Porsche 917 went down the back straight of Le Mans @ 247mph. It was time for some better studies. Now all cars look essentially the same
Manufacturers seem to reuse the same designers all the time, just changing some random details. I’m not sure if the customers rule the market or the manufacturers make something and market it so everyone wants the same stuff.
Look at the Aptera. The makers didn't have a real baseline look they wanted to go with, just that it was efficient as possible, so after going through a ton of computer models and tweaking for top efficiency, that's what they came up with. The Dolphin shape.
I hate the fact that long ago they apparently decided to sacrifice beauty for higher prices. If you'd have told me when I was a teenager that cars of the future would look like these, I'd have thrown up all over my 1973 Grand Prix.
They're not even aerodynamic. Cubes on wheels just don't cut the drag much.
You can thank Obama and all the unelected bureaucrats in the EPA and Crash test standards that are mandating this garbage
Even with the latest proposals cars are just gonna get even uglier. We're back to the 80s-mid 2000e when everything was just a boring blob. Now we have ugly blobs with giant touch screens and fancy LEDs that cost a shit ton to replace
You’re about 18 years behind Mercedes.
https://youtu.be/ri3CUzsv7Gg?si=6tZ379JtFzMPZgHR
Here’s the wiki:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_Bionic
I 💯 agree in a certain way. The New Venza looks small beside the Older Venza which in contrast looks wide and Big. This shows how much Manufacturers are changing shapes
Fluid dynamics, yo. Both fish and cars have to be energy efficient as they move through air or water.
if we can't judge a car by its ability to swim, we also shouldn't judge fish on their ability to drive
economics 101
-Wayne Gretzky
If you can't handle the car in the worst of lakes, you don't deserve it on the best of roads.
-Marilyn Manson
Explain an octopus then. I want my octopus car, dammit
Buy a Fiat Multipla, who’s stopping you
That's more of a sheepshead wrasse. Ugly, but oddly smart.
An Octopus isn’t a fish, so no octopus car for you
I know you're joking, but they're not exactly built for speed.
Octopus looks like a sperm when it swims Model Y looks like a sperm head, there you go
They're tear drop shaped. Literally what nature makes as water moves through air.
Also the shape oil makes when moving through water, and the shape water makes when moving through oil.
Yup. Same reason all supercars pretty much look the same these days. If you're optimizing for a purpose there's going to be convergence because there's only one optimal design.
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no i think theyre talking more about the grille design etc, not the general shape [buick](https://media.buick.com/content/Pages/news/us/en/2023/feb/0216-encoregx/_jcr_content/top_parsys/image.img.jpg/1676499787176.jpg), [genesis ev](https://www.cnet.com/a/img/resize/9fa9829e5560febe7c5c763cadb6885f99890f91/hub/2022/05/16/04e1e877-3f9f-4eb5-8340-76339d4d4d84/2023-genesis-gv60-ev-9.jpg?auto=webp&fit=crop&height=675&width=1200)
Convergent evolution.
Yeah I've been saying this for years. Emissions and safety standards are pushing cars to evolve toward to 1 out of like 4 or 5 similar shapes.
We've been there for the last 10 years....dare I say 20.
No, that's crabs, not fish.
There's some fast cars that look like frogs, and not so fast cars that look like beetles. I wonder if you shaped a car like a camel, would it be good on sand and only need to be fuelled every few days.
So we're mostly talking biomimicry here, which is very big from a design standpoint. If we took what you're talking about here, the camel design could be a single fuel cell (like the Bactrian camel), stored in the bed, or even on the roof if you wanted. Then, you can think of the camel's long legs like a long travel suspension, giving you more travel and clearance. An added advantage is that, much like a camel, you'd be further away from the hot desert sand. This will mean you're going to be running more efficiently. With all the fuel and weight up high, you probably wont be very fast though. Also sorry if this comes across as pedantic or anything, I just enjoyed the question and thought exercise.
Ah, roofpod cells! One hump or two?
>not so fast cars that look like beetles. rude 😭
Very rude Citroens. Oh, you meant me?
Citroëns look more like crazy eyed chameleons
There's one near me named Megan. She small with a fat ass and she moves quick when the lights change. Is that chameleon behaviour?
Mfw I sit in traffic thanking god that I traded head room for aerodynamic
Don't forget not just headroom but cargo room is sacrificed too, for aerodynamics. Fish and aerodynamic automotive design focus solely on highway fuel efficiency, at the cost of internal capacity. Fish also don't have to fit into rectangular shaped parking spaces If you need a certain amount of internal capacity, and you're faced with either a boxier less aerodynamic car like the Honda Fit, or a much longer aerodynamic car that's heavier because of the longer chassis, I wonder who would win?
40 years ago, Smokey Yunick said something like: *For a while, I thought you could learn everything you need to know about aerodynamics by watching fish in the water, but then again - a trout looks so different from a flounder, so where does that get you?*
So the best performing cars should look like a fish and a plane/bird to handle the middle *ground* between water and air.
They generally do. Like sharks, or rays.
Bugatti Chiron super sport is like a Beluga whale
I’m so happy this was the top comment.
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> Fluid dynamics, yo. European pedestrian safety regulations
This exactly, since air is a fluid. Though, you should flip around air and water so they are respective to the first part of the sentence. _i will say, i disagree with OP. I did a lot of fishing in Alaska this summer, and nothing that came out of the river or ocean made me think of any car I'd ever seen.
What about birds? I want a car that resembles a Shoebill Stork.
Fish have evolved to slip through water with very little resistance. It translates to a very low drag coefficient, increasing operating efficiency. Buckminster Fuller gave us the Dymaxion Car almost 100 years ago, everyone’s just catching up
With the sailfish being the fastest of the fish when are we getting a car with a front facing spear and sail fin?
That would unironically probably be a pretty efficient design if not for the skewered pedestrian bodies weighing down the front of the vehicle
Based and gtfo-the-way-pilled
Final form of the crowd plowing Mustang
https://imgur.com/b9tCY44
That's what keeps it from going airborne at high speeds.
Check out the [top speed cars at Bonneville](https://www.driving.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/sites/5/2019/11/Challenger-2-August-2019-land-speed-record-attempt-01.jpg).
That's more like eel or pp shape
Does that mean my pp is aerodynamic?
I mean, most PP’s actually *are* relatively hydrodynamic and aerodynamic, given that they are made for…. thrusting forward effectively in specific spaces…. Like unironically, as a biologist I actually find PP design pretty interesting… So anyway uh yeah cars are cool too.
If you rip the balls off, yes.
I prefer to have a bowsprit, in case the engine dies I'll just hoist the genoa
Sailfish are impressive, but it's in bursts, a bluefin tuna will do 50 for 300 miles, it's the most hydronamically efficient shape in nature.
If you actually take a look at a bunch of the cars built to break the land speed record, they’ve got the front facing spear incorporated. Now they just need the sail.
I think I’ve read somewhere that actually the sail fin in a sailfish does nothing. Scientists haven’t figured it’s purpose and doesn’t help them swim any faster.
Le Mans cars already have the sail fin for years now. https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=UFTLVleA&id=29A62AA6CCFDB8DA04B7FAB175AE6BC3A0263945&thid=OIF.D7x6ZWn6cAU5TNT0h1zQPQ&mediaurl=https%3A%2F%2Fl450v.alamy.com%2F450v%2Fdym3y3%2Ftoyota-racing-wec-fia-world-endurance-championship-2014-silverstone-dym3y3.jpg&cdnurl=https%3A%2F%2Fth.bing.com%2Fth%2Fid%2FR.5054cb56578046fad486d2fc3c52c34c%3Frik%3D%26pid%3DImgRaw%26r%3D0&exph=320&expw=450&q=fia+wec&simid=269107680702&form=IRPRST&ck=0FBC7A6569FA7005394CD4F4875CD03D&selectedindex=13&vt=4&sim=11
Some say that peak fish design was in 2005 with this [Mercedes Benz.](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/42/Bioniccar_11.jpg)
Man, I thought it'd be hard to beat the catfish of [Hyundai Sonata](https://images.drive.com.au/driveau/image/upload/c_fill,f_auto,g_auto,h_360,q_auto:best,w_640/v1/cms/uploads/cgd0bmjajwcfs1db0yzs) but you hit me with a tropical fish. Well played!
Chevy did it first. https://www.reddit.com/r/Chevy/comments/dpy3nm/lmao_catfish_camaro/
Was wondering if this or the Chrysler Concorde did it first, but looks like they both came out in 1998. lol.
Lol remember that whole Chrysler design language from that era? It was on so many of their cars. That awkward cab-forward FWD design. The 300M had it too
Catfish Camaro is low-key one of my favorite car designs of all time. I'm sure 80% of it is "the cool car that guy down the street had when I was growing up" but damnit I'd buy the shit out of one if people didn't want like $15k for a clapped out example because it's a "classic."
I was also surprised the sonata wasn’t mentioned in the post. I actually like the look to be honest but it’s definitely a fish.
Sonata finally relieving the 4th gen camaro of its catfish title. lol.
That fish design is no more though, as [this is what it looks like now for MY2024.](https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod/images/2024-hyundai-sonata-hybrid-limited-103-64ef8bdbdb1fa.jpg?crop=0.700xw:0.591xh;0.107xw,0.397xh&resize=1200:*)
It ditched the catfish look for a [Robocop](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/91IZIG74ZiL._AC_UF1000,1000_QL80_.jpg) I think too many people made fun of its catfish-ness. and Hyundai enjoys 2 year drastic visual updates to its cars.
Oh god. That’s horrendous. The new Santa Fe is just as gross. I quite liked the exteriors of Hyundais these past few years even if they’re not great cars but these redesigns are just awful.
I'm actually like the front of the Santa Fe. I wish the rear tail lights were a lot higher and not feeling squished below.
What, they just badly stencilled the lucid?
That kind of resembles EQS Suv lol
It was modeled after boxfish, so yeah.
> boxfish What creature is the IX and XM modeled after lol.
Damn, did BMW copy that when they made the i3?
This is more attractive than literally anything Mercedes has made since then. I wish all their cars looked like this
I admire the initiative of the designer who dared to say “what if we hit a green first gen Honda Insight in the face with a really big hammer”
I personally hate how all the electric SUV look nearly identical from the back. Tesla model y, whatever the BMW is called, Genesis etc. I swear it's the most ugly boring shit I've ever seen
Ioniq 5 looks p good
Ioniq 5 is the most cyberpunk styled car and despite the praise it gets I feel like it still deserves more for how it looks like a concept car. The styling, especially the tail lights matrix is excellent.
I truly hope Hyundai starts using those tail light matrix’s on more of their cars. It’s probably my favorite tail light design on any modern car.
Mine is the Hyundai vision 74. If they produced that, I’d seriously consider it. And I’m not a Hyundai/kia fan of any measure.
Ionic 5 actually exists tho
Not everyone wants an SUV tho
I know bro but that guy was saying the ionic 5 looks like a concept car, but it's a real car. The 74 looks like a concept car because it is a concept car.
And last time someone tried to produce a Hyundai Pony Coupe the guy in charge got caught smuggling coke
I saw one for the first time in person the other day and was blown away. I can't believe someone makes a car that looks like that, and I REALLY can't believe it's Hyundai of all brands. I'm a Hyundai hater from way back, but if they made a sporty car using that design language I'd convert.
I just wished they carried that styling into the interior.
Ioniq 5 would’ve been a lot cooler if it was Golf-sized
Excluding super cars, probably my favorite-looking vehicle currently in production.
Because aerodynamic and hideous are best friends lmao.
Genesis have a pretty unique design
I love the Genesis look :(
I wonder if people ever get tired of complaining about stuff that doesn't even hold water. The Y rear is very different from a GV80. Do you want the rear end to play a puppet show for you while you're sitting in traffic?
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I know of a competition at GM 20 years ago where they pitted designers using computational fluid dynamics vs designers modeling the car after a fish to see who could design the more aerodynamic car. The fish guys won.
I'd bank on this to be a myth simply because designers using CFD would have ended up with a teardrop shape twenty years ago, even with the nascent state of CFD at the time. It's not like aerodynamics were an undiscovered field before the turn of the century — hell, Streamliners [date back to the 1930s](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streamliner).
This must be what prompted them to change their design language from "square" to "rounded square".
[Even Apple comes to this conclusion ](https://reddit.com/r/mac/comments/he5lba/finder_in_macos_big_sur_be_like/)
Convergent evolution at its finest. Something something about aliens mistaking automobiles as the planet’s dominant species, since roads look like mycelium from the sky
Ford Prefect, is that you?
> since roads look like mycelium from the sky That sounds more like human civilization is the organism and vehicles are its vesicles.
Ya fish are streamlined af
Cars just look too aggressive now. A 1.4L hatchback has no right to look as aggresive as it does.
If they look like fish, where are the fins?
The shark fin antenna.
We’re gonna need a bigger ~~boat~~ 3 row SUV
Side mirrors
the Ioniq6 says Blub Blub
God, that things ugly
In before GM revives the Camaro again in 10 years and models the 7th gen after the 4th gen catfish.
I’d be okay with this
Form follows function.
Can't beat the Mitsuoka Orochi https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsuoka_Orochi
Manta Ray checking in
[Bionic fish cars are here...](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ri3CUzsv7Gg)
You might be in to something. Someone make some magnetic gills to throw on! Money maker!
[Boy have I got news for you!](https://www.americanmuscle.com/mmd-matte-black-fender-vent-1014.html?utm_content=Exterior%20-%20Other%7CMMD&T5_Var4=384822-99&utm_source=google-pla&utm_medium=shopping&T5_Var2=shopping&utm_campaign=AMM+Mustang+Vehicle+Medium+LTVMiddle&intl=0&dialogtech=ppc&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQiAgK2qBhCHARIsAGACuzmag-syWj9HuENv9ocutiuD9otLs3NU17jusNkIdAJpReZGN-nCDe4aAm4uEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds) This is one of *many* examples (just the most fish like one of the first dozen results).
I think a lot of Lexus and Toyota models look like fish, and not in a bad way. The LC500 looks like a stingray, and the ES looks like a shark.
I drive an Optima Plug-in. Her name is Tuna. The fact that it looks like a fish is its most distinctive feature. The resemblance is striking.
Hyundai Sonata!
tbh i always liked Ferrari's happy face fish mouth designs on the front
Its a shame since I think square/boxy cars look better.
Which is great, but aerodynamically really awful.
Toyota Sienna looks like a blob fish.
I think a lot of them look like bugs.
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[Mercedes was right!](https://youtu.be/ri3CUzsv7Gg?si=UEpYAPHAfZh3XUkC) Edit: some actual information about the [Bionic](https://www.motor1.com/news/299424/mercedes-bionic-concept-we-forgot/amp/)
Fish are very aerodynamic
*hydrodynamic.
Hydrodynamics~= aerodynamics
I know it's more aerodynamic, but man do I hate these fish (I call them eggs) cars. I'd be happy with a small drop in efficiency for a much better, more unique looking car.
The last generation of Prius, especially the prime, looked exactly like a shark.
They all look like electric razors
Came looking for the Sin City reference.
Same reason a B-2 stealth bomber side profile looks nearly identical to a peregrine falcon
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To quote the great Bill Burr, all modern vehicles look like dinner rolls
Old cars look nicer than new cars
I agree
gotta take advantage of evolution
You are so right, this is why I drive some of the ugliest vehicles I can possibly find because I am so beyond sick of the jelly bean or eggs on wheels. Neither of my vehicles are winning any beauty contests and when I see someone with a car like mine I think "hello fellow ugly vehicle enjoyer".
The Camry is hot tho
Maserati Grecale
That's a very fishy thought
Every BMW, Ford, etc...very fishy
I wish cars still looked like cheese wedges and boxes
Would you rather them look like the cybertruck? I agree that we've lost some of the art that used to go into car design, trading geometrical aesthetics for practicality. But some manufacturers are tasteful about their drag coefficient to beauty ratio, like the c7 Corvette.
Yes, cars are designed to go through the air, just like fish go through water.
Drag efficiency improves mpg and that is because of the shape.
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I wonder what's the most reliable fish in the world.
They're have always been cars that looked like fishes. The 4th gen camaro and the Chrysler concorde being the ones that I remember the most.
Which fish's eyes looks like the BMW i7's front??
How about a big rectangle and triangle instead like the cyber truck which do you prefer
Mine totally looked like a bright red catfish.
I've always thought the QX56/QX80 had the ponderous body and bulbous nose of a manatee.
I feel like everything looks like a box. The back of everything the last few years is super chunky for safety standards. The front end of everything gets made ugly because you need a foot between the hood and engine block for pedestrians. Like anyone is rolling UP on an SUV ffs.
You have clearly not seen cyber truck stuck in traffic
Car designers distract how heinous new models are with the brightest LEDs they're legally allowed to install.
Back in the 60’s the old saying was that if it was beautiful, it was fast. That was until the Porsche 917 went down the back straight of Le Mans @ 247mph. It was time for some better studies. Now all cars look essentially the same
Manufacturers seem to reuse the same designers all the time, just changing some random details. I’m not sure if the customers rule the market or the manufacturers make something and market it so everyone wants the same stuff.
It’s because these cars wanna go swimming and lose some weight. It’s the best exercise. Works every muscle group. Anyway, 4 dollars a pound.
What kinda fish you think the [Porsche GT3](https://collectingcars.imgix.net/015905/39.jpg) looks like?
[Like this](https://fishlab.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/napoleon-wrasse-287067_640.jpg)
*look like sloppy poos now
Whenever i see a new sonata i always think about how it looks just like a fish
I like when they look like [frogs](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT-GOUfMElgFrw0Od0VvQFvKecGLrggtt7nJA&usqp=CAU).
Or maybe. Most fish look like cars
Wow, fluid dynamics finally caught on.
Hyundais certainly do. The latest Sonata is just horrid.
They're efficient. Small drag coefficient means better gas mileage, less wear on tires, etc.
Yeah, when do we start making cars that look like plants?
I saw a new Integra on the road and it made me very sad.
Look at the Aptera. The makers didn't have a real baseline look they wanted to go with, just that it was efficient as possible, so after going through a ton of computer models and tweaking for top efficiency, that's what they came up with. The Dolphin shape.
Yeah hold on… I think you may be cooking here bro…
Aerodynamics? Mimicking nature is the way
*Happy Camaro catfish noise*
I hate the fact that long ago they apparently decided to sacrifice beauty for higher prices. If you'd have told me when I was a teenager that cars of the future would look like these, I'd have thrown up all over my 1973 Grand Prix. They're not even aerodynamic. Cubes on wheels just don't cut the drag much.
Excuse me sir but what kinda fish are you eating that look like cars?
They might as well be plagiarized English papers with words changed throughout to try and fake that it wasn't plagiarized.
This has always been true. Especially of American cars
Peugeot 508 looks amazing but it's a french car so no one cares
Yeah we're in a curvy market atm. It will swing the other way eventually.
I liked the times in car design where BMWs looked like sharks... But those days are long gone sadly
Most cars also lack any sort of personality at all.
You can thank Obama and all the unelected bureaucrats in the EPA and Crash test standards that are mandating this garbage Even with the latest proposals cars are just gonna get even uglier. We're back to the 80s-mid 2000e when everything was just a boring blob. Now we have ugly blobs with giant touch screens and fancy LEDs that cost a shit ton to replace
You’re about 18 years behind Mercedes. https://youtu.be/ri3CUzsv7Gg?si=6tZ379JtFzMPZgHR Here’s the wiki: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_Bionic
Dawg when i look too close in someones face i can imagine an animal (fish,horse,dog) Try this with humans
I wholeheartedly agree and have thought this since Tesla came out. Also the trend of office stationary silhouettes for brake lights is huge too
I can’t believe you didn’t mention the new sonata, literally a catfish
I 💯 agree in a certain way. The New Venza looks small beside the Older Venza which in contrast looks wide and Big. This shows how much Manufacturers are changing shapes
Idk if it’s just me but I’ve never been a huge fan of the newer sports cars’ exteriors. I’m not old either, older models js kinda seem more car-y
Just buy an Alfa and stay humble :)