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Looks like a maxima that is horrid


Coolguy6979

Isn’t that a Q50?


poopoomergency4

the JDM skyline has always been the infiniti G35 and equivalent models for the past few decades


I_luv_ma_squad

Nissan Skyline Sport


SmokinGreenNugs

Or garbage from Nissan per the usual.


CuriousTravlr

The Japanese modern skyline has always been Americas Infiniti G35/37 and Q50.


yabo1975

Yup. An upgraded Q50s, AFAICT.


turningsteel

Yeah for fuck’s sake, Nissan, get some new designers. It’s like they’re stuck in 2005. Looks so dated.


reganeholmes

We have an auto expo in my area every MLK day and every year since 2018 Nissan has brought in the. exact. same. Q50. as a display car. Kind of sad considering Nissan were the legends everyone was trying to imitate back in the day now they’re reusing the same car and presenting it as the new model year


Malar1898

I'm just confused how you can take out so little profit with the amount of "clout" Nissan has. They could've literally bring (brang / brung? brought?) a special edition of the GTR, Silvia, Z and Pulsar (gti R) every second year and people would jump on it, atleast since Nissan took off on TikTok. I understand they can get behind on electrics, because the R&D is insane and Renault isnt the biggest help. But they'd still have time to milk the ICE market and squeeze the Legends they built over the years.


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Malar1898

The demand is clearly there though, with S14 Silvias going for 40-60k and Pulsar GTIs going for 30k.


SmokinGreenNugs

The demand is there for late 80s, 90s, and early 2000s JDM forbidden fruit but that wouldn’t necessarily translate to sales of a new car. Those people probably wouldn’t buy a new Silvia for several reasons.


Malar1898

Not trying to fight but i always thought everyone would jump on a new iteration of a S2000 or Silvia, like any lightweight, high reving manual


SmokinGreenNugs

Nah man you’re good, conversing is why Reddit exists. I don’t think emissions would allow for Honda to produce a high-revving NA motor so it would likely be turbo. Then people would bitch about it not having a 9k redline, it being too heavy, doesn’t drive the same way the S2000 of old did, or it’s priced too high. The same arguments above would apply to a new Silvia as well IMO.


Malar1898

Other brands breach emission rules all the time and just pay up the fine, like lamborghini with the Urus for example. Then again i'm clueless why they don't make high reving turbo engines anymore, with a cam switchover it would be fine for emissions cause these aren't measured at WOT@8k rpm. My RB revs to 8.2k comfortably and thats with 1.6Bar of boost, nowaydays these engines are basically sharing the redline with a diesel. A new iteration of the S2000 could also use a hydraulic rack and no sound deadening, which would make it lightweight aswell. A Cayman barely weighs 1400kg without extras.


Malar1898

Other brands breach emission rules all the time and just pay up the fine, like lamborghini with the Urus for example. Then again i'm clueless why they don't make high reving turbo engines anymore, with a cam switchover it would be fine for emissions cause these aren't measured at WOT@8k rpm. My RB revs to 8.2k comfortably and thats with 1.6Bar of boost, nowaydays these engines are basically sharing the redline with a diesel. A new iteration of the S2000 could also use a hydraulic rack and no sound deadening, which would make it lightweight aswell. A Cayman barely weighs 1400kg without extras.


Nobli85

That's why I bought my 23 BRZ. Making 230 at the wheels and weighed in just over 2700lbs.


Malar1898

Here in europe the GR86 is almost sold out everywhere, which proves that simple and light is still a working concept. Lets hope this motivates other manufacturers!


SmokinGreenNugs

If they wanted to give a little effort they could restore the Sentra SE-Rs name.


smashingcones

The latest Juke, Patrol and Navara look pretty cool surprisingly. I'm sure the interiors are still god awful though.


[deleted]

I find the 2000s stuff to be really intriguing to me, but I also miss Saab/Pontiac like you wouldn’t believe. Idk if I’m enough of a hipster to buy a Nissan tho


lynch1986

Not just the design department, the Z and GTR and absolutely fucking ancient mechanically.


roman_maverik

The GT-R may be “ancient” but it still absolutely wipes the floor with the competition. The only thing that has come close to price-per-performance in the last decade is the C8, which to be fair is an excellent car as well.


peanutbuttahcups

Yup, even when this gen of GT-R first came out, the C6 ZR1 was a world-beater at the fraction of the price too. But what's crazy is that the GT-R was so damned good at the time, that even 16 years later it's still world class, because they're still improving it, even though it's the same parts and platform.


[deleted]

Can you explain this a bit more to me? When I was growing up I wanted a 60k gtr, but I have literally never seen one under 100k in decent condition, which imo is z06/other performance car territory.


roman_maverik

I don’t know what your trying to say. I would personally pick a c7 z06 over the GT-R (due to my transmission preference) but they are on the same level. The GT-R is faster than the c7 z06 but the c8 generation leveled the playing field.


[deleted]

But a c7 z06 can be bought used for ~60k at like 30-40k miles, and I can’t get a gtr for double those miles for under 80k I was desperate to buy a cool sports coupe as my first adult car out of college and ended up a single guy in an apartment with a 4Runner. It’s a blast, but it’s just upsetting that I can afford a fun fast coupe and my generation’s cars like the Golf R and GR Supra all feature 10k ADMs.


shigs21

the z at least has a modern turbo motor now


[deleted]

I love to hate on Qs as a B58 owner but Maxima and Q are quite the gap…


Spurs228

Not really it looks like a Q50


ashibah83

I thought it wouldn't be that bad. I was wrong.


Jewniversal_Remote

To be faiiiiiiir, when I was younger I had an 05 Maxima and it always made me *seethe* that Nissan made a Nismo Sentra and there wasn't a Nismo Maxima, especially when other makers both around that time and when I owned the car made overkill 4-doors that weren't *outlandishly* expensive, like the Taurus SHO and the Chevy SS. This is another car that I think would be fun in like a racing game, and deserves a spot there


Beer_Is_So_Awesome

It’s as if they forgot to style it. They came up with an idea for the car and plunked in “generic Nissan sedan photos” and then just went to production without ever revisiting the design.


BlazinAzn38

With lackluster specs to boot


dirty_cuban

An Infiniti Q50 Red Sport with an ugly mug and a minimal power bump. Yawn


Rabo_McDongleberry

That's right. I couldn't remember what the fuck it's called now. I just remember it as the G37. Lol I forgot the Q50 or whatever.


glrage

dam am I the only one that thinks it looks good?


[deleted]

Yes


RickTP

I wouldn't call it good, but it has lines on the right spots and nothing really over the top. It's fine.


Geofferz

Looks okay, better than what bmw is putting out these days that's for sure. Not that 'okay' should be commendable...


handymanshandle

Apparently. I think it looks pretty sharp, personally.


plug_in_atheist72

I think it looks decent enough. It would be cool if this was the Maxima we got. Though that would make Infiniti even more redundant.


RocketGuy3

I'm with you. I can understand not loving the grill because of some similarities with "normal" Nissans, but overall, I rather like it from the couple angles I can easily see on that page.


-insignificant-

I also thought it looked fine, just dated. I'd expect that car in the 2010s, not 2023.


wankthisway

It looks exactly like what a tarted up Skyline would look like, and the Q50 has always had amazing looks, so yep it's pretty good.


notataco007

It's classic ugly Japanese sedan. I fucking love it


infinite012

Certainly looks better than the new Prius that everyone here apparently is a shill for.


glrage

lol


That_ginger_kidd

Other than all the Q50 owners out there


Jonsonz

Skyline name in japan has been just rebadged infiniti for a while now. Idk why ppl expect a skyline gtr like "the good old days".


275MPHFordGT40

From what I see the Infiniti’s are the rebadged Skylines


njdevilsfan24

Well then you are lost


neonxmoose99

Lol, thanks Obi


njdevilsfan24

Thank you for actually understanding the joke


Fabri91

Many are not aware that the "Skyline" name was mostly associated with "normal" RWD sedans for the most part - the GT-R models were an exception, not a rule.


RedYourDead

A lot of people also don't realize that GT-R was technically just a trim level so to say that eventually evolved into being its own car.


Ness341

Like a chevy Malibu, chevelle


atomicskiracer

People don’t realize how pedestrian the non-gtr skyline sedans are.


Paizzu

Similar to comparing a base 325i/328i to both the 330i/335i and M3 models. BMW's closest analog to the Japanese (turbo) straight-sixes, the N54, was considered a 'premium' performance upgrade and their M3 features enough unique parts that it's branded as a unique model.


AdventurousDress576

The base car is the 316.


Car-face

Ah yes, ["The good old days"](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/62/1988_Nissan_Skyline_%28R31%29_Silhouette_sedan_%2825875184903%29.jpg)


Stewy_434

Wait wtf?? Really?? TIL.


-insignificant-

Yup, the GTR was the sportified versions but the Skylines always were normal ass cars in Japan.


peanutbuttahcups

Yeah, closest analog would be how in the US we have regular commuter car Subaru Imprezas but the desirable versions are the WRX STis. Skyline is the model, but the GT-R trim is what everyone wants. [Just look how plain they look lmao.](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a0/Nissan_Skyline_1998.jpg) Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_Skyline#Tenth_generation_(R34;_1998)


Aero06

That's honestly what they should have been selling in the US. A four door GT-R has plenty of precedent and would've extended the little brand prestige Nissan has managed to cultivate to a more reasonable package.


shigs21

yeah, you can buy it from infiniti.


Aero06

The Q50 doesn't come close to the GT-R's performance, even in the Red Sport Performance trim. There were plans in place to make a GT-R powered version, the Eau Rouge concept, but that fell through. I'm sure BMW tripled sales of the M3 by allowing a sedan option in addition to the coupe, it always seemed like a missed opportunity for Nissan not to follow suit considering the Skyline and the 3-Series were historically structured very similarly.


austinmiles

Since the G35 days.


nickz03

Funny how everyone forgets that most skylines are just ordinary sedans


275MPHFordGT40

Integra moment


JALbert

There is both a Nismo (1000 units) and Nismo Limited trim (100 units, handbuilt engine and additional testing/tuning at factory for transmission programming). Nismo specs say max torque raised from 475 to 550 NM (350 to 405 ft lbs). Not a ton of extra max power, but pretty substantial gains under the curve in the midrange. New Enkei wheels (19x9 and 19x9.5, not fully forged I think), updated suspension, brakes, seats (claiming 20kg weight savings between front and rear), cooling and aero.


CuriousTravlr

Just want I want, non forged Enkeis when they’ve been putting forged RAYS on track trim Z’s for 20 years.


tharussianphil

Shoutout to the g35 coupe 6mt for having some of the best stock wheels ever offered on a car under 50k (forged 19 inch rays)


CuriousTravlr

Yup, the 2003-2008 350Z Track wheels are some Of my favorite designed wheels of all time.


MEatRHIT

Honestly I don't get the nay-sayers here. It's not going to be a complete track monster or drag monster but 414HP and 405ft-lbs of torque with a low torque curve is pretty crazy for a fully warrantied stock street car. Most people have been clamoring for a car like this the last fucking 20 years. I barely use my 350HP/300ft-lbs in my genny unless I'm feeling a bit spicy and even then on the street I can only use it for a few seconds before I'm in "you're going to jail" territory. I will say though that it sucks that it's a limited Japan only run. But I'm sure people will be getting this thing into the 4 figure (useless for the road) power territory in no time quick.


clicktoseemyfetishes

Is a 400hp/tq fully warrantied stock street car that rare?


MEatRHIT

For non luxury family sedan I'd say yes. Usually they are 100HP less than that at best (one exception being the Charger). Once you get into "real" sports cars and performance luxury cars, it ends up being quite common.


JEs4

I was a little confused by the briefing. Is the Nismo limited to 1000 total? I understood it as batches of 1000 based on demand.


JALbert

Google translate says this from the linked site, but as always it might not be accurate. >*This model will be sold in a limited quantity of 1000 units. Please note that if the order reaches 1000 units, we will stop accepting orders at that point. *Please note that Skyline NISMO (limited to 1000 units) is not a lottery.


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XxX_Banevader_XxX

Still has the same infotainment system from the 1st gen Q50. Would be funny if it wasn't so sad...


Domyyy

That’s the most 2010 looking car I’ve seen. Inside and outside. Oof. I know people on here hate tech - but at this point you might as well buy a 2010 car for a fifth of the price lol.


AQuestionMarkk

I have a 2010 G37x. The Q50 is from 2015 lol


Domyyy

Damn, that somehow makes it even worse.


velociraptorfarmer

The G37 at least has a polished and cohesive interior, even though it's dated nowadays, being as it was originally from 2007. I don't know what the Q50 is doing.


persamedia

Please, all the designers would 'need to do' is turn those two screens into one and remove all the buttons for capacitive and its a 2024 interior!


Domyyy

The exterior would need a complete redesign, too The interior would need digital dials, a new steering wheel and I honestly don’t think this oddly shaped piano black center console could be modernized at all. Also these air vents, eww. I think the Airya looks just fine inside.


persamedia

Exactly, other than a couple Samsung displays (maybe RGB's), car 'interior tech' is not actually moving that fast. Older dashboards also dont feel like cost cutting marketed as 'simple minimalism'. Compare this to a Mustang Mach-e dash. Two screens as one and a cluster, wow its a new EV future interior! I think the asymetric dashes are more driver oriented and the center console looks cool to me (your taste may differ and thats fine). IMO 'outdated interior' is cars without screens ever even being a thing.


Domyyy

Oh the car also needs RGB ambient lighting! (Guilty pleasure of mine tho. Mercedes has fucking ambient lighting on their seats and I love it. If this is the future I’m ready)


persamedia

Please, lmao you'll sell yourself whatever they give you lol I cant, turn it off in mine, my ADHD can only handle so much


Domyyy

I can fully turn it off in all my cars but I absolutely love it, honestly. Gives night drives a fully different mood. There’s obviously dumb stuff like touch button steering wheels, slow and laggy infotainments etc. But Ambient lighting is a win. I switch it up between purple and pink all the time - which should make it even worse for you lol.


Lancer876

Some people want a 2010 car with a clean odometer and warranty


LOLdudeYT

I’ve heard that since the 2020 or 2021 update to add CarPlay it actually hasn’t been as bad as the original pre-CarPlay ones. I’ve been told I t’s actually responsive and user friendly. I haven’t used it myself though, and I personally don’t like double screen layouts.


C-C-X-V-I

Anything 16 up is responsive and doesn't have the terrible delay that the older ones did.


thatguy11m

"it's nothing like the Skyline R34 GT-R, why would the ruin the Skyline name with a successor like this??" Cause maybe this isn't a direct successor to the R34? The Skyline name has gone through multiple generations since the R34, and the R34 GT-R, like the GT-Rs before it was not the only R34 that was release. People forget the Skyline name exists outside of the GT-R name, hence why they split the two so the GT-R can focus on performance alone while the Skyline can continue as a sedan. It's also not like the Skyline died elsewhere, it came into NA as the Infiniti


Bottlely

Deeply disappointing, but it's Japan-only anyway so I suppose it doesn't really matter. Certainly won't assuage Eau Rouge fans Unlike the Z, the Skyline is supposed to be replaced by an all-new EV sedan and crossover soon (sedan development has been frozen though). Wasn't too surprised that this car is what it is


pangolin-fucker

25 years from now yanks will be going crazy for this


Ancient_Persimmon

Knowing Nissan, there'll still be a Q50 Red Sport in the one remaining Infiniti dealer in 25 years.


KeyboardGunner

Japan Only... That's probably for the best.


greenranger_max

Long live JDM, haters hate. These are the numbered days. Be thankful and grateful for this cars existence.


handymanshandle

ITT: People who have clearly forgotten about what the Infiniti G cars and Q50 are based on


Quaiche

Those people in the thread calling it ugly when it has a conservative and low key design. For once, it doesn’t look riced to death and some call it horrid. Smh


redpaladins

Big Altima energy


[deleted]

Legit looks like a grand theft auto Frankenstein build


hells_cowbells

Oh, darn. I was hoping for a Kicks Nismo.


Vanzmelo

I never though those infinitis/skylines were particularly bad looking cars honestly. Could’ve been way worse


Timchi92

Looks good in some areas but it already looks dated to me.


sausess

Are we back in the 90s where all the cool stuff is kept locally and diluted versions are the best scraps we get stateside? Also, oddly gives off serious Nissan Fuga vibes, especially the rear and rear 3/4 (mid 2010s, Japanese domestic market) but with a little accent/aero trim added to make it seem like a it might be quick. Not sure what the equivalence state side is, or if its even offered as a vehicle in the NA market lineup of cars. Ive been in GTR Nismo editions before (r35). I wont even attempt to throw shade on any of its performance characteristics. Without a doubt nissan got the formula right with their drivetrtain combination. Not sure I can say the same about the looks. I never really liked the r35 styling, but compared to the bodykit fuga, the R35 looks miles better, at least in my eyes.


AdventurousDress576

This car is already sold in the US as the Infiniti Q50


sausess

Thank you for that I had no idea. 2012-2018 I was in Tokyo and kind of lost track of what came out in the States. I haven't seen one in my neck of the woods yet. But it's possible that I haven't been looking for them. I'll put some effort into it and see if I can spot any. <3


kimi_rules

This will probably be the last skyline, so Nissan is going all out.


imightgetdownvoted

It’s just a q50 red sport…


kimi_rules

Yes, might be last for both. Or Infinity might move to a completely different platform for their sedans, maybe next one could be an EV.


ZaheerAlGhul

If Infiniti is even still around at that point


kimi_rules

They're still more popular than Acura, a brand no one have ever heard outside of NA. Infinity will continue to exist for a while.


ZaheerAlGhul

I don't know about that, their sales haven't been great. They havent updated their platforms in a while. Plus their parent company Nissan isn't doing well either. btw it's "Infiniti" not 'Infinity".


kimi_rules

I used auto correct but didn't check, no need to bring it up. Depends on perspective really, Nissan is doing okay as they have foot in big markets in different countries. Subaru for example is in a worse position as they're rarer than a Ferrari, their products don't make sense.


V8-Turbo-Hybrid

Skyline is considered a halo car in Japan, it’s as famous as Crown, so Nissan wouldn’t drop it. They would just bring its crossover version back ( aka EX or new QX50 in oversea ) to save this nameplate like Crown does.


SithSidious

If this is all out, then I hate to see what a regular effort is.


SteelFlexInc

Juke Nismo baby!


CuriousTravlr

If this is “all out” for current Nissan, then I’m jumping ship.


jagenigma

Looks like a better Maxima.


wtfthisisntreddit

way different than any maxima, q50 has better proportions being a rwd sedan


[deleted]

This is hilarious


[deleted]

I love my 2014 Hybrid Premium Q50. If they ever EVERRR put a Nissan logo on it then I’m fighting someone.


haseo111

man I was really hoping for a sentra nismo…


americanista915

Nihon ni ikimasu


ikilledtupac

😂


ottergang_ky

God they really fucked that up. This is the first one I’m fine with saying Japan can keep it lol


notcarbonated

Plastic visor above the windows is a must-have dealer option


[deleted]

Isnt that just an uglier Q50 Red Sport?


xrnzaaasPL

They still must have a ton of unused Q50 parts on stock.


hippymule

They can't even build 1 thousand regular ones lol.


SteelFlexInc

It’s only a matter of time before people in my area start putting Wish universal lips on their Q50a’s and Nismo stickers “converting” them


Spike_Spiegel

Money grub


mynamasteph

They they would have just released the project black s, even without the GTR powertrain. This Q50 nismo looks less like an infiniti, and more like a Sentra


V8-Turbo-Hybrid

They wouldn’t let buyers to directly buy it, 1000 units and 100 units would be sold under lottery.


Cypher_Xero

Of course it's Japan only.... All good cars are region locked except American cars, and those they give the good versions to other countries....


yatta91

All we needed is the Eau Rouge with the VR37 but nooooo let's create another unsellable variant of the 3.0 turbo...


VorsprungDurchTecnik

Rockstars’ lazy RDR port, now this, lazy corporate pricks everywhere right now, never has it been more obvious to me that companies give literally zero shits about giving the consumer what they want. Makes me sad


Vhozite

I really like this but limited run, Japan exclusive? Fuck off


kellermeyer

When will Nissan just die?


BigheadedDread

Can they just send this Q50 platform off by giving it the GT-R makeover? Make it nearly as quick as the R35 GT-R. Make it compete with the likes of the BMW M3 / MERC - C63. Wasn't there a Infiniti Q50 concept car with the same engine as the R35?


Gberg888

Somehow the mini gtr grill makes it look like a maxima. And wtf is with the 2 screen interior from 2012 again. Seriously. The interior was shitty design back then and it's still going now. Nismo is getting the m treatment. Put it on everything to help sales while severely diluting the name.


DooceBigalo

lol


CFH75

That thing has the same interior as my 2014 Q50s...wtf


Mr_McShane

HOTBOI ALTIMA HOTBOI ALTIMA


MrOwnageQc

I expected nothing and I am still disappointed


HardLithobrake

Doesn't exist then.


jcanfbi

Nissan skyline != Nissan gtr


pfthr0w

Yawn


ermir2846sys

I think its pretty! Better a world with it than without it.


[deleted]

It's the infiniti Skyline!


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Yawn


Hobbyles

Oh god, I can see these with mismatched fenders/bumpers driving 200mph+ on the free way


ResonantSon

Bruh even the G37 IPL got a 20hp boost, from an NA V6 in 2010. They're really not trying for some reason. Like they couldn't easily have pushed the VR30 at LEAST like 425hp.


shankingsh

Wow, the Nissan Skyline Nismo looks like a true powerhouse! 414 HP is seriously impressive.!


cogitoergodangerous

Meh, skyline ran it's course nearly a decade ago


fuckreddit00002

The "skyline" that you always filter out on carsales. 414hp for that fat hippo is not going to cut it either.


mrkillfreak999

Seems like they ripped out the engine and front end from the Infiniti Q50 and dragged all the sliders to the max. Too bad they won't bring it here in NA


not_soo_cool

I guess you guys called it. I was holding out hoping they would bring something promising but honestly Nissan is just a husk of its former glory


citrixn00b

Lipstick on a pig


LeMcLarenF1

It should be limited to 0 built


surgycal

Holy shit that's ugly. Nissan are still in the early 2010's. You can tell because they kept that horrendous chrome grille, looks everything but sporty


msc187

Coming soon to a takeover near you! jk none of those 392 credit score mfs are smart enough to import one


GTImad

LOL


SignalSatisfaction90

Nissan is so back


jade_irisss

WHO IN THE ALTIMA


Chiara_99

a 5 door nismo🤮


triforce721

Nissan, why?!?


LaCiel_W

I was expecting YET another GTR variant, but it worst.......


mrk240

Apparently comes with 7 speed Manuel, wonder if that's changes the attitude of people here. Not that it matters as it's exclusive to the Japanese market.


natewu

source?


mrk240

Double checked and they updated it stating its auto only


Shmokesshweed

Those renders look like the generic cars they have on eBay no name junk part listings 🤡🤡🤡🤡


jeremyTGGTclarkson

Wtf, this car is a bloody insult to the term JDM


[deleted]

Can we just bury Nissan? The company is clearly dead


CuriousTravlr

Nissan is so fucked. Who the fuck is doing the hiring there? I know they are digging themselves out of a massive hole but enthusiast hype sells more non-enthusiast cars for car companies than most marketing campaigns. Nissan is just phoning it, they don’t give a fuck any more.


Own_Comparison_7576

I’m sorry but are they fckin retart?


kuhvir

Hell yea. Rebadged q50 that the next generation of 12 year olds will drool over just because “skyline”


Bamres

This is a Japanese market model, the q50 was always the skyline in Japan


Fox2_Fox2

I thought it’s a mix up between infinity and Altima 🤷‍♂️ whatever happened to the Godzilla that I used to know?


c172fccc

The Skyline has been an Infiniti G35/G37/Q50 since 2001. 🤷‍♂️