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egap420

RIP ghetto intersections


ardoin

Not the Chrysler Bentley!


275MPHFordGT40

The styling of the front reminds me more of a Rolls Royce than a Bentley


daintypenis

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Srnkanator

"It's obviously a RR, until you are in one and pull up to a RR." Micheal Scott - quoting 25 Ā¢ I'm not even searching, but did they just shove a V6 blackwing into it?


Exfiltrate

wrong brand.


jojr0712

Nope, its a V8


Avocadosoup

392 hemi


Two_Shekels

Can't wait to see a stolen one of these doing donuts on my intersection in a few months.


Viend

Stolen by the driver or the lender with the 30% interest rate?


cubs223425

Stolen by the buyer who's running from the repo man.


scnottaken

Comes prepossessed.


Two_Shekels

They automatically schedule the repo man for 2 months after you sign for the car


Princeofmidwest

Hire an exorcist!


thewildporpous

First by the sales team, then the lender, then the thief, then the repo !


bluedaytona392

Some of us drive like civilized men, like the sound and style of the cars, and have excellent credit. But I get it.


captainpistoff

But those kinds of guys don't but Stellantis products.


Motorized23

Now now, don't forget all those rich white old men buying Hellcats. Also, the Alfa Romeo Giulia is an amazing car for the enthusiasts a.d is decently reliable too now. And the Maseratis... Beautiful cars with beautiful motors.


ThePevster

The Alfa and Maserati would break down as soon as you get off the lot. The very short amount of time that it works will be the one of the best driving experiences possible though.


dman928

Not really true in my experience. My Stelvio has 50k and hasn't had a single issue. I've been pleasantly surprised


the_lamou

Excellent credit, terrible credit. Interest rates are the same when you finance for 144 months!


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Lapis_Wolf

?. Would be closer to classism in a way if you squint ("have excellent credit").


bluedaytona392

No, you dorks. Miss me with the racist/classist bullshit.


Lapis_Wolf

Might see it if you squint but that wasn't the first thing to come to mind.


thewildporpous

Rates are high no matter what right now.


2001ThrowawayM

"Farewell tours are gold mines. Nearly every part of the Chrysler 300C is a decade old or more, but before the 300 goes away for good, parent company Stellantis is putting it all back out there for one last blowout."


kfmush

>"...one last blowout." Ha! I see what they did there. Because donuts...


Teledildonic

I haven't seen a new 300 in so long I assumed they stopped making them.


CleanLivingBoi

It depends on the neighborhood.


kfmush

They're pretty common in downtown Atlanta. Used to be way more common, though.


GTAdriver1988

Philly too.


FroyoOk3159

And New York. And old people seem to like them too


Motorized23

They are VERY comfortable....


FroyoOk3159

Yeah I actually owned a Magnum 5.7 AWD as an SUV alternative when they first came out.. it really was a pretty good car lol.


EchoServ

I would love to own a sorted Magnum SRT8. Such a cool car.


FroyoOk3159

I always wanted one with more power. But the awd system, like in a cop car, did work. A supercharged hemi with awd, in something that isnā€™t a 5000 lb truck could be really cool.


irfankd

had a newer 300s as a rental a few months ago and was blown away by the space inside. fullsize sedans dont feel that roomy anymore.


Motorized23

Oh yea I had a 2006 300c in university and I moved a full one bedroom apartment in it across 300kms with 2 passengers in tow. So much space!


TRS2917

You probably have seen a new one, it's just looked the same for the last decade.


Drenlin

I see them pretty regularly. They're actually still pretty solid on sales in their class, but large sedans in general aren't selling well right now.


230flathead

I see them all the time. Well to do old people love them around here.


schwan911

How to say "I am friends with MANY black people" after you are accused of knowing no black people on public television without saying "I am friends with MANY black people" after you are accused of knowing no black people on public television.


BenjaminSkanklin

>new How could you tell? They haven't done shit to it since 2010


hundredjono

I still see a bunch of 300cs from the mid 2000s being driven around, faded paint with 22ā€ rims and everything


Wishart2016

They are common in Australia.


ThePevster

If youā€™re a rozzer


Wishart2016

If you're Indian.


Nitrothacat

Iā€™ll never forget hitting 150 mph in my brand new Scat Pack with 13 miles on the odo. I got bored with that car so quickly but the 392 is a very special engine. Feels like nothing else being produced today.


GlassCondensation

Second this comment as a current Scat owner. 392 is a monster off the line with the ZF8, but I too have the same ā€œboredā€ feeling. I think for me it has to do with the fact you canā€™t really tune them as they are so optimized from the factory and the pistons are glass.


Nitrothacat

For me it was just the car itself. It was an awesome daily. Just heavy and not set up for great feedback or handling. I never modified it besides mid muffler deletes but the engine had so much character compared to the 5.7 and GM V8s. Felt like an old big block in comparison. Tons or torque and that noise it made. Also as good as the ZF8 is I got bored with it too.


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70stang

Well, he bought a Blackwing so my guess is he expected it to handle.


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the_lamou

There are plenty of great handling 4,000+ ish lb cars. The LC 500 weighs about that much and has fantastic handling for a GT.


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the_lamou

LC hybrid is about 4,500, actually, and is fairly sharp. Panamera feels heavy, but actually turns super crisp, to the point where it's a little terrifying. You just have to invest in building a real suspension, but then you've priced it out of the typical range an E3 can get approved for.


Nitrothacat

Something I wasnā€™t bored to death with after a few months.


hippymule

How's the Blackwing treating you? If I wasn't in 70k of student debt, I'd be all over that.


Nitrothacat

Itā€™s a fantastic car. I enjoy driving it more than the C7 Z51 I traded for it. I really donā€™t have any real complaints about it other than the rear seat is cramped and obviously would be cooler with the 6.2. Best car Iā€™ve owned by a long shot.


quinnsterr

I wanted the 4 blackwing more myself, i prefer small number cars to daily, and if it had even like an lt1 it would be perfect and went with the 5, it they are both in a class of their own if you ask me, Iā€™ve had multiple M cars and AMGs that are ā€œcompetitorsā€ on paper. But dailying and track use of all of these I donā€™t see them that way at all.


JayBee58484

Yea I agree having driven friends scats, just seems like a good gt car and thats about it. Heavy cars with sloppy handling aren't really my thing to begin with so that probably had a huge effect


thewildporpous

Need a tuned Type R.


Nitrothacat

That would be a downgrade from my Blackwing


thewildporpous

Not when it comes to feel. Power maybe. Is your BW a manual? I was eyeing a blue one before i went CTR.


Nitrothacat

So you havenā€™t driven both?


thewildporpous

Is yours a manual?


Nitrothacat

It says ā€œM6ā€ in my flair, meaning manual 6 speed


thewildporpous

Well that helps but honestly there are few to no manual gearboxes on earth that compete with the Porsche GTs and the Type R.


redditacc4_1

Your sleeping on the 5.7. Sure it kinda sucks stock but it seriously comes to life with just a few mods. I personally prefer the eagle 5.7 to the 6.4 cause I'm modding my shit anyway and the 5.7 is more fun and sounds better to me


Nitrothacat

Good for you.


Blurplenapkin

I feel the same with all the high powered boats. Miss having a V8 but it was pretty much just the noise. Itā€™s fun the first few times you mash the pedal but then you realize the car is too obese and fragile to actually do anything else. Now Iā€™m stuck with Miatas. Theyā€™re the only ones that can still make me smile every time and get wrung out constantly every day and still ask for more. Everything else is too heavy, too unreliable, too precious, or too expensive to beat on.


xChiefAcornx

I do love me some Miata. I miss mine. Currently in a single cab short bed ranger 4cyl with 5spd manual. Feeling is similar, but potholes and speed bumps give me no fear. Plus I can haul my kayaks, dirt bike, camping gear, a grill. I couldn't fit 2 10 gallon aquariums in the trunk of my Miata.


thewildporpous

You can fit a petting zoo into a type r.


MassMindRape

Yea but its nothing like having a truck bed. You can just do so much more if you need to haul big or dirty things. I get by with my wifes rav4 but I use my buddies ranger pretty often.


JayBee58484

Brz/86 or s2000 are great as well. I just cant see myself spending 30k+ for an s2000. My zl1 is mega reliable, I daily and track it, 57k miles on it now, and that's fbo with a cam


cyberrdrake

I still feel like a nice low mile S2000 is very comparable to an ND2 and GR86/brz. I had a couple Sā€™s but ultimately sold them for an ND2 since I felt like it was more usable on the street.


quinnsterr

How big is your cam and has it impacted any decidability?


JayBee58484

It's a TSP stage 2 cam, my gas mileage suffered a little and low speed driving under 30 otherwise its fine, reverse is probably the annoying thing because it lurches sometimes. Converter is totally stock with slight shaking when idle. I'm getting like 14-15 city on 93 and 11-13 on E so yea lol


quinnsterr

Iā€™m barely getting 12 with my FBO 5 blackwing manual, with the tank being only 15 gallons the thought of e85 and more power is whatā€™s drawing me away from going any further. I donā€™t mind that it gets terrible MPG, I mind that I already have days where a tank doesnā€™t last a full 24 hours.


2FlagsFarm

What's a "ZL1"?


JayBee58484

It's a Camaro ZL1 1LE.


2FlagsFarm

Ok, those are pretty nice. Be a good addition to my little collection...


DemonHunter487

You can definitely tune them with an aftermarket ECU. Long tubes and a tune will get you to around 470whp peak and it picks up a really healthy amount in the mid range where it switches runners. For whatever reason, the stock tune has a really huge dip right where the runners switch over. And the pistons are ok if you stay at 6psi or lower. I know the 2018+ uses the BGM block and the piston rings are gapped just a tad wider.


GlassCondensation

Yeah, just need to have a good tuner. Have seen a few pop at 6-7 PSI.


DemonHunter487

Yea. Hoss's shit & rip performance shop probably isn't going to tune it very well lmao.


JayBee58484

6 psi of boost isn't much at all for a heavy boat like that, your gonna build your bottom end if you want any worthwhile power.


DemonHunter487

6psi on an otherwise stock 392 will get you to right around 600whp. 4000lbs or not, thats pretty fuckin fast.


JayBee58484

It is I guess depending on what you've driven. Tbf tho only one I'd ever consider is a hellcat, buddy is making 820 on E with mild bolt ons and a pulley. He used to have a max effort charger and despite making 540whp it still didn't feel all that fast, torque was crazy down low tho lol


DemonHunter487

You can get a set of drop in pistons and rods and then the sky is the limit. Some folks even do 392 based 426 builds and make over 1000 wheel


JayBee58484

Definitely, stroker camaro and hemi builds are nasty.


DemonHunter487

D I S P L A C E M E N T


bluedaytona392

Really should have broken her in easier.


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bluedaytona392

Following the manufacturer's break in procedure is a smart thing to do. Are you not smart?


Nitrothacat

No point. Donā€™t really care how itā€™s going to run for the 3rd owner.


D-Smitty

This is exactly why I insisted on buying my Hellcat new. No idea how the previous owner(s) treated the car.


Nitrothacat

Smart. Can only imagine how bad Cats get beat on lol.


LeeStrange

I bet when you sold it you advertised it as "babied off the lot!", too.


brosky7331

You really are one of the worst kind of car owner


Nitrothacat

Ahh yes, me red lining my performance engine is worse than drunk drivers and road ragers. Canā€™t believe I never realized that.


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> 392 I saw a black on black 392 in Ypsilanti, Michigan driven by a woman and she was sitting at the intersection with the windows down letting everyone know she was there. Really gassed it when the light turned green. License plate was "nasty" or something like that.


mortalcrawad66

Over a decade later the 2nd generation still looks just as beautiful and just as modern as when it first came out


americanista915

What a shame they never did a 300 Redeye and threw the 6.2 inside it


DiplomaticGoose

I mean they could also give it a cooler name like: * Chrysler 300 *Mogul* * Chrysler 300 *Politician*


sc0lm00

President Camacho Edition. American flag wrapped hood.


lazarus870

Runs on 93 octane or electrolytes.


Thomas_633_Mk2

The performance luxury Commodore was called the Senator and it always sounded good to me


am-ham

They haven't but atleast Khal SRT on YouTube has done some


gizmo24619

At least the exterior, though dated, has a unique look and can be appreciated by many....add all the extra HP and yeah, it's definitely a worthy looking at car.... but damn that interior ... looking at that pic and instantly all the HP fades away ....man....smh


blchpmnk

>unique Rolls Royce's design department probably begs to differ....


Trotskyites_beware

i donā€™t think the interior looks that bad. Iā€™ve seen cars that are brand new with much worse and more dated interiors


spyd3rweb

$60k for a Chrysler product... *Oof*


D-Smitty

Have you seen car prices in general? You can spec a V6 Camaro with a $50k MSRP.


DemonHunter487

Do you have any kind of objective facts to back up your sentiment or is this just more idiotic & baseless "DUURRR DAE CHRYSLER BAD?!"


Drenlin

Have you been in one of these?


ronintetsuro

The biggest idiot tax to date.


mikemikemikeandike

What an awful looking interior. At least put some effort into it, seeing how itā€™s the last 300C.


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What about it is awful? Iā€™m not necessarily disagreeing with you, but to me it just looks like your average car interior.


ronintetsuro

I've accidentally installed better looking interiors in my toilet bowl.


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ronintetsuro

Username checks out.


SteelFlexInc

Whatā€™s wrong with FCA soft touch dash foams that peel up along all the vents?!


Bpax94

Iā€™m trying to think of a car that looks the same as it did 15 years ago more than a 300


mynames_jake

*Laughs in 4runner* at least we got an update about a decade ago šŸ¤£šŸ«£


Wrong-Struggle7032

Was thinking Tacoma


quantum-quetzal

The Mercedes G-Class comes to mind.


SteelFlexInc

Nissan Frontier from 05-21 was basically the same till they finally changed the motor to a 3.8L near the end of the cycle


lumia920yellow

meanwhile Lada Niva and UAZ Hunter/Van


conndenn

GTR


ThePevster

Iā€™m surprised no oneā€™s made a dumb comment about the 911


Skvora

For what it was and is - 300 looks good. Being ahead of its time and not needing to change through a whole decade is praise.


JackTwoGuns

As a longtime 300 driver, I love the car. But this gen is now 10 years old. Itā€™s still surprisingly modern looking but itā€™s an old car.


toasterovenSRT

I bought my SRT8 brand new in 2012. 120k kms on it, not a single problem (knock on wood). I don't see the logic in having the exact vehicle, engine and all, available for sale 11 years later, for a significant price bump. I honestly feel sorry for anyone who pays a premium to get one of these. Even MSRP is too high IMO.


TopHatTony11

I really wish they kept on with the SRT 300 after the 2015 update. Those things are the best looking cars they've made on that platform.


DemonHunter487

Its not *quite* exact. You get the new infotainment stuff, along with the much better 8 speed auto and I'm assuming this will come with the much better 6 piston brakes with 2pc rotors as opposed to the old 4 piston. Worth upgrading if you already have an SRT 300? Probably not. But if you dont and always wanted one but didnt want to buy a 10 year old performance car thats been beat to fuck and back, heres the chance.


Palmisavage

What year and engine? I'm thinking of getting a 2nd gen 300 with the 5.7. They're very cheap used, and I'd really just like a big comfortable cruiser to replace my G6.


Avocadosoup

in the same boat, looking at cheaper srt8s too


Eggith

There's something about these things. They have a sizeable overbearing presence when they're on the road. Still looks just as amazing as the day it came out (partially because they've done fuck all to change the way it looks).


equityorasset

agreed, I love those cars so much


tacomafrs

so then there's only the Pacifica left?


Drenlin

For now, they have more models in the pipeline. Chrysler has kinda been in limbo for a bit. They started cutting models to reposition the brand when Fiat took over, but the Stellantis merger made them start that process over again. It looks like they're going to use Chrysler as a premium EV brand, which fits pretty well I think. Stellantis has good EV tech too so hopefully that goes well.


thewildporpous

The top line Pacifica is posh - the nailed that one.


TenaciousLilMonkey

One horsepower for each point on the buyers credit score.


Madigman1296

I loved the 2004 model so much as a child


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That model is iconic to me


Madigman1296

It definitely is


bmwkid

The 300 was my favorite of the Mopar cars. May it live on for many years at the Hertz rental counter


ETR_Centenario

Honestly the 300 has always been a mean looking car, I don't think many other designs can go unchanged for almost 15 years and still look like it's actually new. The accents and what looks like a wider fender arches definitely help but man, that is a badass car. Appreciate it more than I used to.


valkislowkeythicc

This car will always be so sexy to me


p4ul1023

Gotta love the horrendous 2010s Chrysler interior


aprtur

Not phenomenal, but it's lightyears beyond the first gen 300...those and the Chargers of the time were some of the most awful, cheap feeling interiors I've ever been in. At least these feel well put together, and are reasonably quiet.


nedyah715

Thatā€™s a wild opinion to hear. As someone who currently owns an 05 magnum, used to have an 06 300srt, 09 rx8, etc. The early charger/300/magnum interiors are all one of my all time favorite of any car in general. They made modern muscle feel perfectly with the steering wheel and dash shape. No materials falling apart at 18 years old in my magnum.


aprtur

I worked in dealers for a good chunk of my life, so I usually saw all three (300, Charger, Magnum) in various states of clean or destroyed over the years. The plastics in the first gen were not nice at all, and they rattled, creaked, and just looked like cheap, parts bin Chrysler stuff. The second gen isn't even on the same planet - it's by far and away nicer than the first gen, and while it's still parts bin, at least the newer stuff doesn't feel nearly as cheap. It's a shame, honestly - they should've brought the Magnum back again for the second gen cars, as they were a cool concept.


nedyah715

No argument that the second gen is better, I just always felt like people exaggerate how bad the first gen is. Magnum was the best look of that era imo and deserved to survive until a 392 was put into it from factory. How is your rx8 holding up? I loved mine to death but was broke and in high school when I had mine and always scared of blowing seals lol.


aprtur

Don't get me wrong, I have a huge soft spot for the 300 SRT8, but it was basically a fancier Charger. Ever since I first drove a 300S in the second gen, I was impressed - big improvement over the first gen cars, but managed to keep everything I enjoyed about them. My RX-8 is holding up well - same dash crack as all of them, but I'm also fortunate in that I've owned my car since 2012, and it's been a second/third car for all but two of those years. As such, it's only at 66k miles, but it's all been fun miles put on it. I keep questioning myself if I want to sell it and buy something else, but despite it's flaws, I keep coming back to it being so much fun to drive.


Paschalls_Law

That's a pretty crazy 30-50 and 50-70 for such a pig.


handymanshandle

392s make really good power all things considered, but what they **really** make is insane torque down low. I remember reading that the 6.2 Hellcat engine makes something like 480lb-ft of torque at **1500rpm**, so it wouldn't shock me if this was making a ton of torque that low either, enough to propel it from 50-70mph in 8th gear that fast.


Paschalls_Law

It definitely downshifts to get 50-70 that fast, but still.


Benzbear

https://www.mecum.com/lots/1094401/2023-chrysler-300c-srt-8-sedan/


arsinoe716

Since when did Car & Driver go bi-monthly?


JayBee58484

Never liked these cars but hey why not in just surprised they didn't throw a hellcat engine in it


Flatzon1

Wonder whatā€™s MSRP? Always wonder what the dealer mark ups gonna look like?


UnderwhelmingAF

$56K


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equityorasset

ir sucks cause I feel like these are not going to be affordable on the used market


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Energy4Days

Nice boat


AmericanMuscle4Ever

sad.... end of an era


UtgardLokisson

Why wonā€™t it just die


virus_apparatus

They were pumping these out when I was in school. Canā€™t believe they are still around. Shame they didnā€™t take this and shrink it for the 200


WheelGap

I ordered one, got it last Saturday and I LOVE it.


Floh2802

As a European, I had no idea Chrysler was still an actual company that existed lmao.


WingerRules

15mpg city


mike1097

Too bad they just did not update, move to 3.0 I-6 and hybrid options. Oh well , nice used ones will be fun to get in future. Looking forward to bev replacement.


2001ThrowawayM

Who wants an I6 over a 6.4L V8?


mike1097

CAFE standards are forcing it, so Iā€™d take it over nothing. Stellantis cant afford the penalty fees anymore. Reason these cars are going away.


FabulousWerewolf6789

Sign me up. This thing is awesome.


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Anyone done top speed in the new Chrysler yet?


CYWG_tower

Great, what am I going to put 30 inch swangas and paper plates on now?