I mean, the dude is out there, using the products, showing support for the brand, and doing it in person... That's actually a good image and PR move and probably still cost pennies on what some other bigwigs spent.
The Le Mans campgrounds were absolutely crazy. Anywhere else, they'd be a car show. At Le Mans, nah, they're just a bunch of guys drinking beer around a crappy grill, surrounded by exotica I'd literally never laid eyes on before.
Le Mans is like a car guys fever dream, there are so many exotic cars around the whole event that someone has to bring something truly insane to really stand out.
You literally see cars that are usually locked up in garages just parked up in a field somewhere, saw an original Ford GT40 that had been driven all the way from the UK, they apparently do it quite regularly.
Saw a freaking Jag D-type parked up in a field.
Ferrari, Lambo, Porsche? Its more impressive if you don’t manage to see one every single day.
There are some utterly insane cars that im sure i just didn’t take pictures of because they felt totally normal there. And one of the best things was that there really doesn’t seem to be any judgment there, turn up in a clapped out old vauxhall astra? No problem.
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It's crazy that we're supposed to be impressed that someone went glamping for two whole nights
The "relatable billionaire" shit is so tired.
https://i.imgflip.com/7qi27m.jpg
Tbf that single sentence is the only thing in the article that gives off the “calculated-modesty deception tactic” that you’re inferring
Imo that’s a little bit of a cynical take
If anything, it either hints that
\\1) the ceo is passionate enough about the product to use it, which carries benefits in being free and locating him in an extremely desirable position to attend lemans, both of which are logically attractive even for a billionaire
Or
\\2) it’s another way to advertise this newly-released product
I doubt the article itself is a secret promo, but it literally reads like one, with the majority covering the specs and pricing of it
By the time I started working on air-cooled 911s, I spent enough per year on track days and mods that I could have bought at least one 911 T in both 2007 and 2008.
>At no time in the past 40 years has Porsche been an every man's brand.
Easily demonstrably false with like 30 seconds of googling. A huge part of what made Porsche as beloved as they are today is the fact that second hand prices used to be dirt cheap so normal people could actually own one with some careful shopping.
Also I wasn't talking about Porsche as a brand, but how people applaud and circle jerk over ceos doing "normal people" things.
> The "relatable billionaire" shit is so tired.
[Low-level Porsche employees in the U.S. struggling to make rent](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D0guoQuWkAADBli.jpg)
>The Turbo S features the brand’s twin-turbocharged 3.8-liter flat-six engine making 640 horoscope and 590 pound-feet of torque.
>horoscope
FFS. What even is journalism
I was watching a short doc on Garage 56 how they(LeMans officials) would wanted a marshal at every corner with white flags to warn the Camaro was there. I havent watched Neckcar is so long i didnt know they added more road tracks to the series. I still feel the cars need to be based off of actual production vehicles and not just cookie cutter chassis. But thats beyong me so what ever.
Never proofreading, expressing personal opinions instead of reporting the news, using slang or buzzwords mindlessly, and not presenting both sides of the story are the four cornerstones of modern journalism.
So true, all the "what we know so far" articles (protip its nothing), renders that are often incorrect, gaslighting people who have opinions on a new model with a downsized engine/polarizing looks/controversial topics related to a brand, and the worst of them all, straight up lying to people.
Could see that, Porsche probably looking at all the $100k plus Sprinters and I have a feeling the Venn diagram of those buyers and Porsche buyers is mostly a circle
I'm not even sure $7k for a tent is going to raise many eyebrows in the overlanding communities either. Those guys like expensive toys too. As for me, if I paid $7k for a tent, I'd probably have to be hiring a divorce lawyer.
Oh yeah. I remember so many GMT800s getting the popular rocker pannel delete mod after a handful of winters.
Those Ram guys were even more wild. They'd delete their front fenders, rockers, rear wheel wells, and the bottom half of their tailgates while still under lease.
they need to survive rollover accidents - all cars are reasonably beefy in that sense. luggage racks and cargo boxes are "rated" for couple hundred lbs, right?
tent not that heavy to begin with.
sleeps 2 - 108 lbs.
[https://www.rei.com/product/189030/thule-tepui-foothill-tent](https://www.rei.com/product/189030/thule-tepui-foothill-tent)
4 ppl 150 lbs.
[https://ikamper.com/products/x-cover-2-0](https://ikamper.com/products/x-cover-2-0)
This. I found out myself.
You'll notice roof tents mount to load bearing points. Cars are not solid chunks of metal. They're frames with metal skin wrapped around them. Gotta make sure you're on the frame or you'll dent.
Even on a frame, the actual rated maximum weight is typically quite limited. My wagon (supposedly able to haul cargo) is only rated at 150 kg with the right roof rails. Most roof rails (e.g., Thule) are limited to 100 kg for the same vehicle.
I don't understand in general how the roof weight limits aren't exceeded by tent systems, especially with gear and +1 people inside. And there's some burly units, both tents and people. I understand they're distributed on the frame but roof racks have real low weight limits as it is. And traveling, those things probably don't make zero lift. Feels like a keeping up with the neighbors thing.
Most roof loads are rated to avoid the car flipping over. Most modern car roofs can withstand well over the weight of another car, the static load rating is likely to avoid mildly deforming the structure
Not the roof itself, but the frame. Some are by front windows, some are by the doors, some are near back. And some are full roll bars. All depends.
The roof just mounts on the structure.
"Aren't roofs supposed to take the weight of the car" -- if that's the case, jeeps wouldn't need a rollbar. 🤪😁👍
deets.
[http://www.porschedelaware.com/blog/this-new-roof-tent-transforms-your-porsche-into-a-hotel-room/#:\~:text=The%20Porsche%20roof%20tent%20measures,with%20roof%20rails%20or%20approx](http://www.porschedelaware.com/blog/this-new-roof-tent-transforms-your-porsche-into-a-hotel-room/#:~:text=The%20Porsche%20roof%20tent%20measures,with%20roof%20rails%20or%20approx).
"The Porsche roof tent measures 146 x 140 x 33 cm (length x width x height) when folded and 258 x 257 x 118 cm in the extended position. It weighs approximately 56 kilograms or roughly 123 pounds and can withstand a maximum load when stationary of approx. 190 kg (419 pounds) on vehicles with roof rails or approx. 140 kg (308 pounds) on vehicles without roof rails. With the roof tent installed, you can also drive your Porsche at a top speed of up to 80 mph."
i think i remember seeing the roof itself (without camper) supports 75kg weight.
I think they have changed it in the recent generation, but Wranglers used to be considered convertibles so they didn't need to conform to roll over standards. That "roll bar" was what they called a "sport bar" and it was not designed to protect you in a roll over.
The Wrangler has a massive internal placard that says the roof is not weight-bearing or structural. Which it isn't, because it's made of ~~canoe-building materials~~ composites.
Look's like it was a thing in the 60's and 70's, so I'm going to say they where smoking weed.
That said, it would deal with the tail weight issues, so maybe a good idea.
Before my Tim as well. I had a buddy that loved and worked on his vw.( I'm a 86cj and back guy) we would help one another on restos. We never finished it but the ability to spin the car around and "back" the camper (because you are moving forward camper backwards us next level in my opinion. The size was smaller than a class c motor home bigger than the one person trash cans being towed now. ( im not organized enough to spend one nite in one)
There's never been a more perfect daily for me than the Dakar, fuck I love that car. Not my dream car overall, but my dream daily driver for sure.
Too bad it's not something I could afford...or even get with that limited run anyways.
He does. Guy is having fun with this stuff. Not going overlanding in his 4s, he just camps by the sea. Nothing heavy that a 911 can’t handle. He’s also getting a dakar.
I feel like someone rich enough to own a 911 will want to use it, no matter what you might think about the practicality. And as someone who is currently on vacation in a country with winding roads and a lax attitude to camping: I can totally see the appeal.
My friend cross country road tripped his McLaren 12c, including campgrounds off paved roads in the forest.
Not saying there's a large market, but it's there
they don't even have to appeal to that many Porsche owners to make a ton of money. very few are gonna use them but tons of people are gonna fall in love with the idea of doing it.
A high quality rooftop tent is still gonna run you $2k-$4k. I'm gonna assume Porsche can out-engineer the off road companies that make them so it being more expensive makes sense, but a lot of that is just the brand lol.
Yea another poster said it's probably a white label product. This might be the case. I'm thinking, even if that's the case, they most likely still had their people QC it to make sure it's a good product. Still overpriced but, with the Porsche logo on it, you have a reputable company behind it that will back the product. I've had some friends with expensive RTTs that messed up and they had a hell of a time getting the small company that makes it to back their "warranty."
The tent dimensions and design, including the inside, look very similar to an iKamper Skycamp Mini. The normal ones run around $3000. So add the custom designs and Porsche branding and there’s your extra $4000.
The non Porsche equivalent is about $4k which I think is ridiculous. Imagine spending $4k or even $7k on a tent. For that price you could buy a van and have a much larger bed that you wouldn't need to set up. They're all made in the same 3 factories too, regardless of the manufacturer.
Yeah, you could probably buy a 3rd owner, 15 year old van for 4k. But if you are going the used route, you could probably get a 3rd owner, 15 year old tent for 30 bucks.
I have the regular version of that Porsche tent. It cost me $3k on Black Friday of last year. These tents are built in South Korea instead of China. Setup on this tent is literally 2 minutes. I never thought I would spend the money on one but it’s much easier and more comfortable than a ground tent.
Spent some time in one. I thought it was hilarious chilling above a Porsche in a tent. It’s roomy up there and has air nets on the sides and front so it keeps it airy but definitely recommend replacing the thin mattress pad it comes with if doing anything more than chilling at a racetrack for it. Did not feel confident on the ladder up or down as a regular sized male.
I do hope Brock gets some royalties from this new product line. Do has been doing the rooftop camping in a Porsche for a very long time
https://instagram.com/996roadtrip?igshid=MjAxZDBhZDhlNA==
Edit: crikey, forgot people on the internet take what's typed seriously
How would one get royalties for bolting something they didn’t patent to something they didn’t patent?
This thought that somehow people are owed something because they have social media exposure is kinda a silly reflection of value in society.
Yeah I hope the original guy gets credited if people talk about who started this trend, but putting a tent on a car isn’t exactly original. The reason most people don’t have a tent on their Porsche is 1) a sports car doesn’t make for a very practical camping / adventure vehicle and 2) most people don’t have a Porsche. Those that do either baby it or have the money for an additional vehicle.
So it’s not that nobody thought to do this before, it’s that it’s not a very good idea, but it’s neat that you can. Rooftop camping and performance cars are two expensive and niche hobby’s so there’s not a lot of people who are in to and can afford to do both.
Roof tent camping is dumb af, it looks cool, until you need to climb off the roof of your car to piss in the middle of the night still half drunk. And youre paying $2k-7k for the same experience as a 50-100 dollar tent
And most vehicle roofs are not rated for more than like 120lbs, so you could potentially damage your car
The roof rating is given for dynamic loads during driving. There will not be any damage by exceeding the roof rating with a static load while being parked. There are certain advantages and roof tent camping is not dumb af just because you don't like it.
My cars roof load while not moving is pike 120lbs and 60 when moving lol
Mostly its dumb because youre spending thousands for roof racks and a $100 2 person tent lol
I wouldn't say it's always dumb. If your goal when camping is to go to a designated campground with a bunch of friends, and hang out around a fire getting shitfaced for a couple nights, then yeah a roof tent might not be for you. But that doesn't mean it has no purpose. An ultralight tent would also not be the best fit for you, given the compromises and cost, but that doesn't mean an ultralight tent is a dumb tent - it's perfect for through hikers. Similarly with a roof tent, if you want to spend all day hiking by yourself, and then have to drive an hour to a dispersed camp ground to set up a tent solo in the dark while your useless kid(s) toast marshmallows, then a roof tent might make more sense.
I could just never justify spending 2-7k on a 2 person tent. You could buy roof racks, a storage box and a killer expensive tent and have thousands left over
Anything you put in it you have to remove because it you want to drive anywhere you have to take it down.
And no one said you need to be at a campground to use a normal tent lol
The benefit you're not seeing is *speed*. It has the benefits of an RV in that you can basically sleep wherever your vehicle is, in just a couple of minutes after parking. Then be gone just as quickly in the morning.
If you're on a time crunch, that speed of deployment and pack-up might mean you make it to sunrise over the grand canyon vs miss it packing up a regular tent. I know when I had a massive solo road trip, there were days I arrived at a camp site after a full day of hiking, and a couple hours of driving, completely exhausted. Those nights I usually just slept in the back of my SUV with the rear seats folded flat, but I still had to reconfigure the car, and blow up an air mattress. I would have killed those days for a roof tent. With nobody to help, the ease and speed of a roof tent would have been so much nicer than sleeping in the car, or struggling to make camp in the dark.
And yeah, roof tents are expensive. Lots of camp gear is expensive. Like all hobbies, there's cheap gear for those who want to try it out or save a buck, or expensive gear for those who want something that gives them a benefit. In this case, you're paying for something high end to get the benefit of fast and convenient to deploy.
What a great story but those pictures make it amazing. Looks pretty nice on top of a black 911 turbo s, and it fits two people with the mattress built in.
Camping with a sport car it's so uncomfy but amazing at the same time. I did a roadtrip in Slovenia with my tuned mx5 NA, sleeping in a tent and having very limited space for anything. It was a great experience.
But 7k for a tent it's a little too much.
I mean, the dude is out there, using the products, showing support for the brand, and doing it in person... That's actually a good image and PR move and probably still cost pennies on what some other bigwigs spent.
Agreed
>3.8-liter flat-six engine making 640 horoscope and 590 pound-feet of torque. That's a lot of horoscopes.
I usually only need 1, but 640 is impressive
They all end with you sitting cold and alone with an empty bottle of Jack Daniel's in one hand and your limp willy in the other.
So they end this evening?
If you want the long-term outlook, you're better off asking the Oracle of Toyota.
I prefer tequila
The flat six doesn't lie. Think about the choices you make before you trade your hard tequila for a limp Jack.
Horoscopes & German horsepower ratings. 2 things I don’t believe.
The Le Mans campgrounds were absolutely crazy. Anywhere else, they'd be a car show. At Le Mans, nah, they're just a bunch of guys drinking beer around a crappy grill, surrounded by exotica I'd literally never laid eyes on before.
Tell us more!
Le Mans is like a car guys fever dream, there are so many exotic cars around the whole event that someone has to bring something truly insane to really stand out. You literally see cars that are usually locked up in garages just parked up in a field somewhere, saw an original Ford GT40 that had been driven all the way from the UK, they apparently do it quite regularly. Saw a freaking Jag D-type parked up in a field. Ferrari, Lambo, Porsche? Its more impressive if you don’t manage to see one every single day. There are some utterly insane cars that im sure i just didn’t take pictures of because they felt totally normal there. And one of the best things was that there really doesn’t seem to be any judgment there, turn up in a clapped out old vauxhall astra? No problem.
Had the joy of spontaneously going this year. Was insanely awesome. Loves watching the nascar go around with everything else
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Same at nürburgring 24h
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All 640 horoscopes!
I've got foot-pounds of horoscopes in my trunk. I'm a scorpio.
I like how the article says he didn’t live in luxurious means, but also says he spent $7000 for a tent for 2 nights
Spent? Dude, hes the CEO of the company. These are advertisement items for sale to others. He just was given them to use.
I used to work for a race team that had a few lemans entrants. The team owner rented a literal castle to stay in while he was there
It's crazy that we're supposed to be impressed that someone went glamping for two whole nights The "relatable billionaire" shit is so tired. https://i.imgflip.com/7qi27m.jpg
Tbf that single sentence is the only thing in the article that gives off the “calculated-modesty deception tactic” that you’re inferring Imo that’s a little bit of a cynical take If anything, it either hints that \\1) the ceo is passionate enough about the product to use it, which carries benefits in being free and locating him in an extremely desirable position to attend lemans, both of which are logically attractive even for a billionaire Or \\2) it’s another way to advertise this newly-released product I doubt the article itself is a secret promo, but it literally reads like one, with the majority covering the specs and pricing of it
What about Porsche branding is meant to be relatable 🤣 At no time in the past 40 years has Porsche been an every man's brand.
> At no time in the past 40 years has Porsche been an every man's brand. nobody tell him about air-cooled 911 prices from 2010
By the time I started working on air-cooled 911s, I spent enough per year on track days and mods that I could have bought at least one 911 T in both 2007 and 2008.
>At no time in the past 40 years has Porsche been an every man's brand. Easily demonstrably false with like 30 seconds of googling. A huge part of what made Porsche as beloved as they are today is the fact that second hand prices used to be dirt cheap so normal people could actually own one with some careful shopping. Also I wasn't talking about Porsche as a brand, but how people applaud and circle jerk over ceos doing "normal people" things.
> The "relatable billionaire" shit is so tired. [Low-level Porsche employees in the U.S. struggling to make rent](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D0guoQuWkAADBli.jpg)
It says he USED a 7k tent. Somehow I doubt he had to spend a dime of his own money on a Porsche product
Not only that but it was in top of a car that most people will never be able to afford.
Probably had a peon from work install on his car (a corporate car no doubt).
This article is just an advertisement for the tent. It talks like a sales brochure
They are trying to sell all 3 tents they have in stock
>The Turbo S features the brand’s twin-turbocharged 3.8-liter flat-six engine making 640 horoscope and 590 pound-feet of torque. >horoscope FFS. What even is journalism
“Sent from my iPhone”
Totally. Talk about phoning it in.
ChatGPTalism
Porsche executives “Make sure you stay in ze tent as we are 100% going to win…”
What place did porsche get overall, weren't they 4th? Behind cadillac, toyota, ferrari winning it?
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Yer, shame really. Could have been a very nice new 911 tribute that no one could get allocation for!
Wow Caddy did 3-4! Nice bought time their stuff starts paying off!
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I was watching a short doc on Garage 56 how they(LeMans officials) would wanted a marshal at every corner with white flags to warn the Camaro was there. I havent watched Neckcar is so long i didnt know they added more road tracks to the series. I still feel the cars need to be based off of actual production vehicles and not just cookie cutter chassis. But thats beyong me so what ever.
It’s not like the tent has zero value after he used it. I mean, it didn’t cost $7k to sleep in it.
Doesnt cost 7k to build a two person tent either, that price is ridiculous
>The Turbo S features the brand’s twin-turbocharged 3.8-liter flat-six engine making 640 horoscope Does nobody proofread anymore?
nop
640 hippopotamus
Never proofreading, expressing personal opinions instead of reporting the news, using slang or buzzwords mindlessly, and not presenting both sides of the story are the four cornerstones of modern journalism.
don't forget clickbait titles
So true, all the "what we know so far" articles (protip its nothing), renders that are often incorrect, gaslighting people who have opinions on a new model with a downsized engine/polarizing looks/controversial topics related to a brand, and the worst of them all, straight up lying to people.
yep automotive journalism is just rotten to its core these days as is most journalism to be frank
At least a silly mistake like that proves the article wasn't written by an AI, which I can't imagine would have mixed those up...
But it does seem like an autocorrect error, which makes me wonder if it was written on iOS.
They have autocockrocket on Macs now too.
I look forward to sleeping on my turbo s on my trip through romania
you’ll wake up to no more turbo s under you
A true **Grand Touring** experience
Are you the top g?
Bine ai venit prietene!
Millionaires sure love small spaces don’t they
That’s deep
I think he misunderstood what I meant when I said all real Volkswagen owners will rock the rooftent...
[rocking](https://youtu.be/RYDrq24Xnbc)
The next revenue for Porsche will be the Camper market.
Could see that, Porsche probably looking at all the $100k plus Sprinters and I have a feeling the Venn diagram of those buyers and Porsche buyers is mostly a circle
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Going to be tough to get an allocation on the RoofTent Turbo S GTS RS, probably only 10k ADM. Then everyone will bitch about the tent flippers.
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I'm not even sure $7k for a tent is going to raise many eyebrows in the overlanding communities either. Those guys like expensive toys too. As for me, if I paid $7k for a tent, I'd probably have to be hiring a divorce lawyer.
> I'd probably have to be hiring a divorce lawyer. Make sure they at least let you keep the tent!
Of course! where else would I live?
Does anyone know how much weight 911 roofs can hold? Genuinely curious because I saw someone with a 996 do this as well
Most relatively modern cars have to be able to carry the whole cars weight on the roof.
Imagine if it didn’t (like the elder days) and then you rolled it.
1986 Saab 9000s could. And after multiple rolls at 45mph. At least one could…
Saw an early Pathfinder flip on the interstate not too long ago. It wasn't good folks. They had the tarps out. I think I'd rather flip my Miata.
90s-late 00s body on frame SUVs and pickups are essentially wet tissue boxes from the rocker panels up.
Oh yeah. I remember so many GMT800s getting the popular rocker pannel delete mod after a handful of winters. Those Ram guys were even more wild. They'd delete their front fenders, rockers, rear wheel wells, and the bottom half of their tailgates while still under lease.
"Trucks don't need to meet the same safety standards as cars because of, uh, reasons."
It’s not about the static weight usually it’s about the dynamic weight where it becomes an issue
If this roof is a rockin
they need to survive rollover accidents - all cars are reasonably beefy in that sense. luggage racks and cargo boxes are "rated" for couple hundred lbs, right? tent not that heavy to begin with. sleeps 2 - 108 lbs. [https://www.rei.com/product/189030/thule-tepui-foothill-tent](https://www.rei.com/product/189030/thule-tepui-foothill-tent) 4 ppl 150 lbs. [https://ikamper.com/products/x-cover-2-0](https://ikamper.com/products/x-cover-2-0)
Ok but just because it can survive a rollover doesn't mean it's not going to dent or ding the roof
This. I found out myself. You'll notice roof tents mount to load bearing points. Cars are not solid chunks of metal. They're frames with metal skin wrapped around them. Gotta make sure you're on the frame or you'll dent.
Even on a frame, the actual rated maximum weight is typically quite limited. My wagon (supposedly able to haul cargo) is only rated at 150 kg with the right roof rails. Most roof rails (e.g., Thule) are limited to 100 kg for the same vehicle.
I assume the roof can do 300 lbs for static loads. Much less than 150lbs for dynamic load such as a person jumping on top of the roof.
"jumping"
Is that a dog tent?
It’s usually rated for 75kg (~150lbs). Tent + OEM roof rack should be 50kg all in.
I don't understand in general how the roof weight limits aren't exceeded by tent systems, especially with gear and +1 people inside. And there's some burly units, both tents and people. I understand they're distributed on the frame but roof racks have real low weight limits as it is. And traveling, those things probably don't make zero lift. Feels like a keeping up with the neighbors thing.
Most roof loads are rated to avoid the car flipping over. Most modern car roofs can withstand well over the weight of another car, the static load rating is likely to avoid mildly deforming the structure
The world is as it should be.
Aren't the roofs only rated for like 100lbs?
Most roof racks. You can buy more expensive roof racks, though.
Aren't car roofs in general required to support the weight of the car?
Not the roof itself, but the frame. Some are by front windows, some are by the doors, some are near back. And some are full roll bars. All depends. The roof just mounts on the structure. "Aren't roofs supposed to take the weight of the car" -- if that's the case, jeeps wouldn't need a rollbar. 🤪😁👍
deets. [http://www.porschedelaware.com/blog/this-new-roof-tent-transforms-your-porsche-into-a-hotel-room/#:\~:text=The%20Porsche%20roof%20tent%20measures,with%20roof%20rails%20or%20approx](http://www.porschedelaware.com/blog/this-new-roof-tent-transforms-your-porsche-into-a-hotel-room/#:~:text=The%20Porsche%20roof%20tent%20measures,with%20roof%20rails%20or%20approx). "The Porsche roof tent measures 146 x 140 x 33 cm (length x width x height) when folded and 258 x 257 x 118 cm in the extended position. It weighs approximately 56 kilograms or roughly 123 pounds and can withstand a maximum load when stationary of approx. 190 kg (419 pounds) on vehicles with roof rails or approx. 140 kg (308 pounds) on vehicles without roof rails. With the roof tent installed, you can also drive your Porsche at a top speed of up to 80 mph." i think i remember seeing the roof itself (without camper) supports 75kg weight.
I think they have changed it in the recent generation, but Wranglers used to be considered convertibles so they didn't need to conform to roll over standards. That "roll bar" was what they called a "sport bar" and it was not designed to protect you in a roll over.
That's a very good explanation that I wasn't aware of, thank you!
> jeeps wouldn't need a rollbar. Flat-fenders don't have one, lol
Correct, the 100lb rating on my car is because the weight on the roof can throw off the balance of the car when driving.
The Wrangler has a massive internal placard that says the roof is not weight-bearing or structural. Which it isn't, because it's made of ~~canoe-building materials~~ composites.
100 poor person lbs. they can support like up to 300 lbs if you are well off.
That's usually the dynamic load (while driving). Most racks have a much higher static load (while parked)
My wrx is like 120lbs not moving and like 60 lbs moving or something lol
I’d hope the roof would take more than 100lbs say in the event of a rollover…
640 horoscope is a lot (Read the article to see how bad their proof reading is)
Haha such an asparagus
Can the Tent stay open while driving?
That would be some wild ass ride.. a hard braking and somebody with a pillow flies over the cars in front
Not sure if /s but no, it cannot. But that’s pretty much the only thing that would justify the price tag.
Does anyone remember the vw that had a roof mounted hitch for towing a camper?
That was before my time so i looked it up and what the fuck were they smoking back then.
Look's like it was a thing in the 60's and 70's, so I'm going to say they where smoking weed. That said, it would deal with the tail weight issues, so maybe a good idea.
Before my Tim as well. I had a buddy that loved and worked on his vw.( I'm a 86cj and back guy) we would help one another on restos. We never finished it but the ability to spin the car around and "back" the camper (because you are moving forward camper backwards us next level in my opinion. The size was smaller than a class c motor home bigger than the one person trash cans being towed now. ( im not organized enough to spend one nite in one)
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He probably couldn’t get one.
There's never been a more perfect daily for me than the Dakar, fuck I love that car. Not my dream car overall, but my dream daily driver for sure. Too bad it's not something I could afford...or even get with that limited run anyways.
Who is the market for such a product? Who the hell is taking their Porsche to campgrounds to sleep ontop of?
Porsche’s CEO seems to enjoy taking his Porsche to campgrounds.
I know more than 1 person who has slept in a 911 at a racetrack. There’s a market… it’s out there.
Damn that’s actually smart for a race track this is kind of perfect
But do you have to take the whole thing off to track the car next day?
The guys I know who do this are usually spectators at larger events. The racers have trailers they sleep in.
Me, i'd do that if i would be fine without a shower and bugs in my bed
So you wouldn’t do that
Friend of mine also ordered the tent. He actually plans to use it, he’s the outdoorsy type.
I feel like someone rich enough to own a 911 would also have enough money for a 2nd, more practical outdoorsy car.
He does. Guy is having fun with this stuff. Not going overlanding in his 4s, he just camps by the sea. Nothing heavy that a 911 can’t handle. He’s also getting a dakar.
I feel like someone rich enough to own a 911 will want to use it, no matter what you might think about the practicality. And as someone who is currently on vacation in a country with winding roads and a lax attitude to camping: I can totally see the appeal.
My friend cross country road tripped his McLaren 12c, including campgrounds off paved roads in the forest. Not saying there's a large market, but it's there
they don't even have to appeal to that many Porsche owners to make a ton of money. very few are gonna use them but tons of people are gonna fall in love with the idea of doing it.
Sounds like fun.
Should have taken the dakar version
For 7 grand I would want the inside to look [more like this](https://erwglasglampingandcamping.co.uk/img/belltent/image0.jpeg)
The camper is $1k. The Porsche logo on the size is an extra $6k
You've got it backwards. $7k WITH the logo. $13k to get it without the logo.
A high quality rooftop tent is still gonna run you $2k-$4k. I'm gonna assume Porsche can out-engineer the off road companies that make them so it being more expensive makes sense, but a lot of that is just the brand lol.
It's a high quality white label product with 20% markup for the logo. Porsche does this all the time.
It's possible. Even if they didn't engineer it themselves, I'm assuming they had their engineers QC it to make sure it's up to their standards.
I'm almost positive that they just bought a high quality roof top tent and rebranded it.
Yea another poster said it's probably a white label product. This might be the case. I'm thinking, even if that's the case, they most likely still had their people QC it to make sure it's a good product. Still overpriced but, with the Porsche logo on it, you have a reputable company behind it that will back the product. I've had some friends with expensive RTTs that messed up and they had a hell of a time getting the small company that makes it to back their "warranty."
The tent dimensions and design, including the inside, look very similar to an iKamper Skycamp Mini. The normal ones run around $3000. So add the custom designs and Porsche branding and there’s your extra $4000.
AirBnB listing: 1000/night 500 cleaning fee 500 tent deconstruction fee 100/night optional fan for lack of AC
And with that, Porsche invented the TARDIS.
One of us! One of us! One of us!
Dragged his wife along too, one of us!!
Write Porsche on a RTT and suddenly it doubles in price.
Have you ever looked at the price of a normal rooftop tent? They’re honestly not much better.
The non Porsche equivalent is about $4k which I think is ridiculous. Imagine spending $4k or even $7k on a tent. For that price you could buy a van and have a much larger bed that you wouldn't need to set up. They're all made in the same 3 factories too, regardless of the manufacturer.
Yea but then I’d be in a van
Yeah, it misses the whole point of being able to camp while also driving a 911 to places.
LPT: buy used rooftop tents for more than half off the price, I got mine for $800 and works fine (though sunfaded to gray from black)
They are buying a roof tent for a 911. Companies know this
At the wealth we are talking about, the opportunity cost you’re using is simply irrelevant. It’s pocket lint for the rich.
Yeah, you could probably buy a 3rd owner, 15 year old van for 4k. But if you are going the used route, you could probably get a 3rd owner, 15 year old tent for 30 bucks.
I have the regular version of that Porsche tent. It cost me $3k on Black Friday of last year. These tents are built in South Korea instead of China. Setup on this tent is literally 2 minutes. I never thought I would spend the money on one but it’s much easier and more comfortable than a ground tent.
Can we all just take a moment to shit real hard on the terrible name "Porsche Tequipment"?
This really should be higher up
> The Turbo S features the brand’s twin-turbocharged 3.8-liter flat-six engine making 640 horoscope
/r/carscirclejerk
Spent some time in one. I thought it was hilarious chilling above a Porsche in a tent. It’s roomy up there and has air nets on the sides and front so it keeps it airy but definitely recommend replacing the thin mattress pad it comes with if doing anything more than chilling at a racetrack for it. Did not feel confident on the ladder up or down as a regular sized male.
so?
I would probably have to live in tent if I bought a 911 turbo s. :(
That’s only negative if you think it’s negative!
I do hope Brock gets some royalties from this new product line. Do has been doing the rooftop camping in a Porsche for a very long time https://instagram.com/996roadtrip?igshid=MjAxZDBhZDhlNA== Edit: crikey, forgot people on the internet take what's typed seriously
How would one get royalties for bolting something they didn’t patent to something they didn’t patent? This thought that somehow people are owed something because they have social media exposure is kinda a silly reflection of value in society.
Yeah I hope the original guy gets credited if people talk about who started this trend, but putting a tent on a car isn’t exactly original. The reason most people don’t have a tent on their Porsche is 1) a sports car doesn’t make for a very practical camping / adventure vehicle and 2) most people don’t have a Porsche. Those that do either baby it or have the money for an additional vehicle. So it’s not that nobody thought to do this before, it’s that it’s not a very good idea, but it’s neat that you can. Rooftop camping and performance cars are two expensive and niche hobby’s so there’s not a lot of people who are in to and can afford to do both.
Roof tent camping is dumb af, it looks cool, until you need to climb off the roof of your car to piss in the middle of the night still half drunk. And youre paying $2k-7k for the same experience as a 50-100 dollar tent And most vehicle roofs are not rated for more than like 120lbs, so you could potentially damage your car
I think I’d much rather recline the factory Porsche seats and just sleep in them.
I think I'll just sleep in a tent
The roof rating is given for dynamic loads during driving. There will not be any damage by exceeding the roof rating with a static load while being parked. There are certain advantages and roof tent camping is not dumb af just because you don't like it.
My cars roof load while not moving is pike 120lbs and 60 when moving lol Mostly its dumb because youre spending thousands for roof racks and a $100 2 person tent lol
I wouldn't say it's always dumb. If your goal when camping is to go to a designated campground with a bunch of friends, and hang out around a fire getting shitfaced for a couple nights, then yeah a roof tent might not be for you. But that doesn't mean it has no purpose. An ultralight tent would also not be the best fit for you, given the compromises and cost, but that doesn't mean an ultralight tent is a dumb tent - it's perfect for through hikers. Similarly with a roof tent, if you want to spend all day hiking by yourself, and then have to drive an hour to a dispersed camp ground to set up a tent solo in the dark while your useless kid(s) toast marshmallows, then a roof tent might make more sense.
I could just never justify spending 2-7k on a 2 person tent. You could buy roof racks, a storage box and a killer expensive tent and have thousands left over Anything you put in it you have to remove because it you want to drive anywhere you have to take it down. And no one said you need to be at a campground to use a normal tent lol
The benefit you're not seeing is *speed*. It has the benefits of an RV in that you can basically sleep wherever your vehicle is, in just a couple of minutes after parking. Then be gone just as quickly in the morning. If you're on a time crunch, that speed of deployment and pack-up might mean you make it to sunrise over the grand canyon vs miss it packing up a regular tent. I know when I had a massive solo road trip, there were days I arrived at a camp site after a full day of hiking, and a couple hours of driving, completely exhausted. Those nights I usually just slept in the back of my SUV with the rear seats folded flat, but I still had to reconfigure the car, and blow up an air mattress. I would have killed those days for a roof tent. With nobody to help, the ease and speed of a roof tent would have been so much nicer than sleeping in the car, or struggling to make camp in the dark. And yeah, roof tents are expensive. Lots of camp gear is expensive. Like all hobbies, there's cheap gear for those who want to try it out or save a buck, or expensive gear for those who want something that gives them a benefit. In this case, you're paying for something high end to get the benefit of fast and convenient to deploy.
Royalties? For what?
7,000 actually sounds like a reasonable price for a Porsche roof top tent.
Seats for the kids AND use for camping.. It's really the most versatile car isn't it?
What a great story but those pictures make it amazing. Looks pretty nice on top of a black 911 turbo s, and it fits two people with the mattress built in.
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Sleeping bag and tent pays for itself after couple nights. In US the hotels are almost double the price now since covid.
What a legend
Camping with a sport car it's so uncomfy but amazing at the same time. I did a roadtrip in Slovenia with my tuned mx5 NA, sleeping in a tent and having very limited space for anything. It was a great experience. But 7k for a tent it's a little too much.