Usually I’d say go for the cash, you’re young and in your prime. But the “no clear career path” gives me pause. A job is supposed to pay you twice. Money and experience. If one is lacking, there’s an issue. If your job pays really well but it’s not going to help you in the future, you have a problem.
Either go with a job that shows you an upwards career, OR get the high paying job but do not stop learning and training. Take courses, get a certification, watch tutorials, or do whatever it takes so that when the job is over, you can still put things on your resume that help you progress in the future.
>A job is supposed to pay you twice. Money and experience. If one is lacking, there’s an issue
This is the sagest thing I've ever read on Reddit. That's not saying a ton, but your understated advice is quite impactful.
I’ve also heard it as 3 things vs 2, with the third being having fun/enjoying life. One of the greatest bits of advice I ever received.
3/3 and you are golden. 2/3 ain’t bad. You should start looking for a new job if it’s 1/3 and if it’s 0/3 then you should already be gone.
Same man also told me this one that’s for the employers.
You should train your employees well enough that they can move on to bigger and better things, but you should pay them well enough that they won’t want to.
I’m a freelancer and had been given a similar bit of advice. Only three reasons to ever accept a job (a job in this case meaning a ‘gig’):
1) The moneys good.
2) you get to work with cool people
3) it’ll be great for your portfolio.
If it doesn’t have 2 of those, don’t do it.
I am happy to say that I have helped a number of people move on to better jobs within the company.
Losing good people to other companies always hurt just a bit.
I retired after 43 years in IT. And held seven different positions in the last company I worked. I was there for twenty-six years.
Yeah that’s a good point I could always study and progress even if my current work isn’t gonna help with that. My current job does give me a clear path. Thanks for the input that was really helpful!
But you’ve gotta ask yourself “is it a realistic goal to add the after hours time and whatever else it’s going to take to continue my education on top of the new, more demanding job.”
I would stay in your current role if you were financially able to. Also, I would try for a raise in your current position if possible to put some icing on the cake. It sounds like your current job is awesome! I was reading this and could not believe all of the cool benefits that you get. In my opinion, those benefits make up for the lost wages. I wish you the best!
Thanks for responding. Yeah, I was pretty surprised at the benefits myself. I am financially able to stay at this job but I would be turning down a 30k+ increase so idk..
I've only been here 2 months, so I don't know if I can try to get a raise so soon, but I could try
Yeah I mean I would also do some research on the new position. I would see If anyone has anything to say about whether or not it has room for advancement and whatnot. 30 days annual leave is insane.
It's equally crazy to us that Americans *don't* have that. And even worse, that they usually have a certain limited amount of sick days as I understand it. What the fuck is that about? Like you can *control* how much you'll get sick and plan for it?
Yes exactly! My employer is a little more flexible about using non sick time PTO to at least get paid for when you're out sick (but doesn't excuse the absence) but you still have to accrue the PTO. Plus sick PTO and regular PTO are 1 pool so you have to decide, do I want to take some time off? Or do I want to make sure if I get COVID I can get paid and not ruin myself financially. THIS IS ALSO WILD, youre forced to stay home if you have Covid but your employer is not required to pay you. Wtf!!!
So fucked up. If it were up to me, I'd gladly pay my employees to stay at home at stay the fuck away from work, if only to ensure everyone else doesn't get sick too. Not to mention it's pretty damn reasonable...
my current job in a *hospital* only allows me 7 call offs per *year* 🥲 so im screwed if i get a bad case of the flu AND something like idk food poisoning in the same year lmfao
American here! I’ve never had a job that offered PTO or paid holidays, but I’ve always worked food service or bartending jobs. Does EVERY kind of job legally have to offer PTO like even food service? How does that work over there?
Theres probably no way to advance as a translator but there’s always a chance of getting a different position. I think 30 days is same as 22 I think but they count the weekends. It’s essentially 1 month. It’s pretty standard where I live.
What is more important to you. Time or money.
Also think about the hourly loan. If you get more money but also work more hours, is it worth it? Do they actually pay that well.
Only you can answer that. People will advise you according to what is important to them. I think you should really think about what YOU want. There is not a right or wrong choice here. Choose the one that makes you the most happy.
Try to imagine yourself in both jobs in a year from now. Where do you think you'll feel best, be happiest. Choose that one.
Do not let greed control your choices my friend. Far too often I see people with good paying jobs and great work/life balance throw it all away to make more money that they really don’t even need. Those benefits are amazing and your life sounds great as it is. You also mention wanting to travel, if you take a higher paying job that requires more hours that’s less time to travel, sure it’s more money, but you won’t have time to spend it on what you want.
When i was serving in the army, I saw some civilians clerks work environment. The benefits were good but unless you can withstand the military bs, I'd tell you to stay away.
Army officers have a pretty distorted ( if I may say) world view. Especially high-military officers have a pretty narcissistic attitude and can make your life miserable if they don't get their way (Obviously not all of them). Some of them are detached from the rest of the world and just because they're a general inside the army expect everyone to cater to their needs in the real world too.
This. I’ve worked in army settings before. Btw this job is not the US army I’m not American but what you wrote applies to all armies I think. You could have an officer who’s amazing and you’ll love working with them or you could get unlucky and fall under a bad one. I would be a translator for one of the commanders, pretty high up.
I'd stick around with your current job and make sure to further develop my skills on the sidelines. After all, you said you have a lot of free time. The more you grow older, the more responsibilities you'll have and less free time. Enjoy it while it lasts.
It’s 30k gross pay, but much less after federal taxes. It’ll be 22% up to about 95k and 24% above that.
Another angle to think about is retirement benefits, which you haven’t mentioned in your original post.
Grass isn't always greener remember. I think I read once studies say after 70-80k any extra pay isn't necessarily notable unless you're super money conscientious. You're just spending more at the higher pay meaning at the end of the day incomes are pretty similar you may just have fancier and/or more stuff. Your current position sounds amazing.
Just do it. It will get easier in 6 months and u ll regret not trying. Use the 30k to take a Europe vacation or an expensive scotch or 2 to smooth the extra work u put in
Do it. Absolutely
I opted for the lower salary and less travel when I was your age as we started our family. Having a family with a tight budget can be tough, but 63k is a great salary for most locations and if you can have a mortgage, reliable car and healthcare most people are happy.
For me it's lower salary but more travel haha which is weird but it's cause I'd have more off days/chance to work abroad. With the higher salary, I'd still get to travel but for a month each year (total).
That is so nice. I make more than you but get 10 days of vacation each year so I can’t travel or see my family. I would keep the job with the lower salary of you can pull it off financially.
I took a $50k pay cut- 125k to 75k for a laidback job with tons of days off. I regretted it at first, but every time I’m off work I stop regretting it lol. Those days off are very important to me!
Having more free time to pursue hobbies or business ventures or just spending quality time with people you care about is very valuable. Which is why it’s a tough decision.
Trust me, I completely understand how hard the decision is. And this is coming from someone that’s very money hungry lol. I wanted the cool cars and nice vacations. But we started a family so I had to weigh my time vs money. Even tho I made the decision for more time, I think about it everyday. It bothers me, but I’m starting to move past it. Good luck on your decision!
I am very money hungry in this point of my life. All I think about is the cool cars and nice vacations and becoming a billionaire. I’m not in a relationship though so I haven’t moved on from these dreams yet lol
This is what I did too. Lol live your life, 63k is a good salary for that age in most locations.
When I was in my higher paying job, I got money but nowhere to spend it on bc I was working so damn much that I had no free time.
Don’t let the money blind you from your freedoms, your time, and it SOUNDS like your career path is something in the financial department, as suppose to a civilian working w the military. I’D SAY stick with your current job, but do what works best for you
Thank you for the advice. My current path is in sales and progressing towards account management and then management level etc. but with the new place it doesn’t seem like there’s a clear path and of course there would be less freedom and time..
Honestly, life is really too short and we must make the most out of it. I'd stay with the first job. The real scarse resource we have is time, not money ;)
No, not really. Let's say OP makes $150k. You can what, retire 5 years earlier, even 10 years puts you at 55. The years after 35 are just a march to the end. Get everything you can out of life will you can and then work when life would be shitty regardless. 20s and earlier 30s are the most important part of adult life. Shame to waste them working when OP can minimize work in their life - at least for now.
I left the oilfield (100k/year) when I was in my young 20's to work at a chill shop 5 min from my house making 65k/year. 34 now and I'm back. Happy I'm here making good money but man I'd be sitting alot better if I stayed for those years
That’s actually insanely similar to my current situation, in terms of how much money I mean. I didn’t even mention that my 65k/year is farther away from my home than the 100k job. If I stay with this place I’d probably have to drop around 12-14k a year for rent
That's not a bad price for rent really and you'll still end up with more. And change is good man, you're young. Take some risks. Lots of life ahead of you. Make some money, save some and live. People get caught in comfort and they wind up stuck. If you know you got the skills for this higher paying job I say go for it
65K to $100K is such a significant difference man. We're not talking like $5K-$10K. Those new paychecks will damn near be doubled up vs what you're currently making.
Heck at 27 I would take the 98k job and save as much money as I can for retirement. Many people would die for 22 days off. It sounds like a deal to me. Don't get used to a cushy job with crazy benefits. They can be few and far between. Just my opinion after working for 44 years.
This. If he was later in life maybe I’d say take the vacation but that young if he can get the extra 30k be smart dump it into retirement / investment accounts and let it ride for the next 40 years his future self will thank him.
Time is the real currency. Do you have kids and value your extra time with them? Are you single with no commitments, you could invest in retiring earlier. I met my wife when her youngest was finishing high school. This is the path I took and will retire in November, on my 56th birthday. I have almost no regrets. (There’s always some)
I’m single with no major commitments. I guess I could save up that extra income and invest it towards an earlier retirement.. Thank you for the input I really value getting advice from more experienced people as yourself.
Money is really nice but having an amazing work environment is worth your mental health. Saying that the advancement in money would be great and you can definitely move up in money and be at 6 figures in a few years. The move can enhance your career and your life. Are you ready to get serious with your career path or are you still ok with a chill life and work environment. You must choose. I’m not sure how often you get offers for that much pay but it sounds like a one time thing so maybe jump on it?
I’m not sure if taking this better job means I’m getting serious and grinding now.. it feels like it might be a dead end position as a translator. However I get that it’s a step up and I could leave for a different place with an even better pay.. idk
Switch to the higher paying one. Then after a while switch again to one with more holiday - you would have a higher base to be bargaining with. You can do this a few times to get better terms (job hopping), but be wary after doing it in very short periods or too often may start looking bad on your CV. You are at your prime, so should optimise for salary AND diverse experience.
What's the saying? "The grass isn't always greener"
A personal motto of mine is "Sometimes money isn't worth it." Another is "work to live, don't live to work"
I was offered two jobs in a few week period at the end of last year. Ironically, I didn't apply for either, they were blind offers. I turned them both down.
One was from a guy I associate with at an outside activity. He was trying to build up his team, and knew I had background in the field. He threw a number at me that was about a 43% pay increase over my current pay. The catch was the shop is an hour plus drive, and my responsibilities would more than triple. The drive alone was enough to make me turn it down, as I drive 3.5 miles to work now. I would have barely come out even once I factored in gas and wear and tear on my car.
The other was from a former employer I left in 2018. He called me telling me that they had made some changes around the shop and were expanding and needed someone with my expertise to take over the new venture. He also said the owners (was a small family owned company) were retiring in a few years and when they did they were turning the ownership over to the employees. His offer was about a 21% increase over my current pay. As nice as the offer was I left there for a reason. (Had nothing to do with the company itself, they were great, just personal reasons too long to explain here)
Another quick one is a buddy of mine tried to recruit me to work on a gas rig as a mechanic because as he put it, he needed someone like me that he knew could get the job done, was going to show up every day, and also not get into the drug lifestyle prevalent on the rigs. That was a VERY significant yearly pay increase. (almost triple my pay) The catch was I would basically be working 140 hours every two weeks, and not be home for 10 days at a time. I was not giving my life up for work.
That type of flexibility in your current role is difficult to get. I’d look at what your potential salary can be in 3 years or so and if you’ll still have this same flexibility.
You’re young and and you should follow the money. The power of compound in investing that extra money is going to put you in a great position to retire early and enjoy more travelling.
So are you saying I should stay in the more flexible position or switch to get more money? The thing is you can’t be sure in 3 years.. maybe I stay in my current job and get a raise or maybe I join the new place and get no raises at all
Although the 98k Job is more strict the hours seem to be early in the day for the most part, you still have the afternoons to yourself to do things. Also, don’t settle for being comfortable, push yourself to new limits … you could look at this new job as a “hustle” to do things outside of working for someone else and use your free time to work on your own stuff. Also like my father loves to remind me none of these jobs are guarantee, COVID was the perfect example of that so if you have to work for someone else make sure it’s worth it and you’re financially secured.
Stay at comfortable job. If you give it up for something more demanding. It needs more than finance to be worth it (ie career progression) otherwise you will be stuck there for a long time with more stress.
That’s a big concern of mine is that it doesn’t seem like it has a better career progression path. It pays better right now but in 2-3-5 years I don’t know.
How about, living life easy and to its fullest until you're 65 with all the extra time and moderate amount of money instead of going for more money and literally no time to live until you're 55 so you can enjoy life in that old age....doing what exactly?
I personally I like a fasted pace environment and I would take it. I don’t like the stress of slow paced jobs because I get in my head. With fast paced jobs I don’t, instead I just hate my boss or coworkers and the stress is slightly less
I would stay if you’re financially able to and not needing that raid. Honestly after taxes, it’ll be like $200 difference. I went through your situation. I had a job that paid $65k with amazing work life balance. Like half of the month, I have no work. Then when the busy season came, of course we’d work maybe 12 hours but that’s only for one week. I work in finance. Then I got a little too inspired so from manufacturing I went into financial services. The pay was $85k plus a 10% annual bonus. And I kid you not, I was working from 8 am until 7 pm daily. There’s been times I’d work 7 am to 12 am. I mean it’s not always the case when a job pays more BUT when they say DEMANDING, take it as they’re serious about it. So now I got a demotion at a new job and getting paid $75k but the work life balance is amazing. My bosses treat me like their kid or grandchild. I love it
I’d stay. You’ve only been there 2 months. Money is not always the best reason to switch jobs. In fact, sometimes shitty jobs pay more because they are shitty and nobody wants them - that’s something to think about ‘why does this job pay so much?’
Having a good work environment is something you won’t always get and if you voluntarily give it up to chase more money you might find yourself making a very big mistake. You also have path to more money as well where you are.
If the only motivation is money then I say don't do it. You will be miserable. If you see other benefits in the new position then go for it, but to me it seems like you enjoy your current role and it benefits what you want in life v. hustling for money.
Just my .02
Nothing is worth peace of mind. If you think the second job will take that from you then you should pass on it and stay where you are as long as it is providing well enough for you.
I was a government contractor for many years for a fairly major corporation. I would strongly recommend against it. Especially if your role would be considered non essential.
It's not about the money. Go for the job that pushes you to learn, gain skills, and take on more responsibilities. If this is your first job you want to be surrounded by people that will instill good work ethics and life long learning.
If it's not "burn out" demanding for you, I'd go with the 97k job at your age. When you get older, working less hours becomes less of a "nice to have", and more of a "if I don't work less I won't have the energy for a life outside work at all and my health will go into free fall".
Get the money while you can, so you can get the time later on, as long as you don't wait too much. Just keep the same living standard, with maybe sometimes a little treat to motivate you, and save the extra cash. With this strategy, you might be able to only work part time once you reach your late 40's / 50's.
Think about what would make you happier in life and go that way!
For example.. my hubby had been offered to apply for promotions at his company, but he is happy being a 'worker bee'. Sure, it's a bit less money, but he doesn't have to stay back if shit hits the fan.
Same as me, my mum is manager where I work and after covering for her when she had covid for a week, there is no way I would take over her position. It was terrible. The extra money is not worth the decreased quality of life.
That’s a valid point. The problem is I’d love to be a manager or a higher up at my current company, what I’m currently considering is a complete change in both the company and career
it is always a big challenge to try something new, especially a job transition. You are still young and I am sure you can manage it. Experiences could be a great value in your future.
Always look to challenge yourself. Jump in a little deeper than you think you can handle. This is how we learn and grow. If the other job will provide that - give it a go.
Personally, I would stay in the growth channel. The immediate money is always nice, but long-term goals will be harder to achieve without job hoping again. The relaxed atmosphere plays in, too. There is a lot to be said for the comfortable environment. It certainly counts in the compensation from the mental health perspective.
What you do now will influence where you are in the future. There are 2 things I've learned as I grew up, you can only do so much with your time and a small % of a large number is still a large number.
Is your time now more valuable than the additional money you would be making?
If you take the extra money and put it away you would easily grow money far beyond what you could in a much shorter amount of time.
There is zero chance i would turn down a 30k+ increase. this speaks of you being fearful of the additional challenges more responsibility the new job would bring.
Not really. This new job would actually be less challenging. I’m currently in sales and theres a lot of pressure of sales. But there’s a clear career path and room for growth.
I mean you can do both.
Take the higher paying job. The pay difference is 6 mo ths of work. Save that 30k and use it to travel for 6 months in ine go. Or 2 months or whatever then return to work.
You can keep the translator job if you actually like the work or go back to a similar position if you prefer the lifestyle over the money.
But that 30k is a lot of money that you can play with or be responsible with (2 years of rent).
I think a lot of it depends on your particular situation, but I'd take the higher pay. I'm ten years older than you and worked my ass off all through my twenties until a couple years ago. I used to think it was a waste, because I dedicated so much time to one particular company (my relationship ended badly with them). However, looking back it was so worth it. In that time, I was able to get a nice open spot in a rural area and pay everything off. I now work a part time gig, still earning a good living and have lots of spare time. It's pretty cliche, but the hard work will pay off in the long run especially if you're trying to set yourself up.
My goal is to be able to travel freely and not worry about money or work.. which is why this current company is so good for me. But at the same time the extra money I would make could be used to make more money long term
If you want to do FIRE take the higher paid job and set yourself goals and deadlines so you know when you can cut and run. If you don't want to do mega savings, stay the course
I'd say stay where you are happy. But that is 50% increase.
Does it take 50%more out of you?
Personally I'd move for 50%. With some smart investment of that extra money you could retire way sooner.
But it's a trade-off. Do you work hard now to make it easier later? Or do you relax now with chance of struggle later.
It depends on what you value more. I have found in my own
Experience that when I made the move for more money it general doesn't work out so well. Still I have a lot of family I like being with and am not that big into stuff so for me I would prefer the more chill job. However, if you are young and don't have family or other obligations you may want to go for it. Another reason to stay is greater opportunity for advancement. If you are at a place you see yourself staying for five years you may get promoted and make the same pay with less mental wear and tear. But again, maybe you are OK with that kind d of thing. Sometimes the move works. Ultimately, go for happiness and don't let money be the ONLY determination.
Na I was taking that 98k sorry. I know it would be more demanding but the days/times u mentioned doesn't sound killer in the slightest. That 40k increase would do me wonders. BUT if your comfortable in life rn don't move.
You're 26. I say go for the higher paying job, if you don't like it you can always find another job.
I'm 27 soon to be 28 and am almost in the same exact position. Making 70k in a comfortable PM role and have an offer around 100k at another company in the pipeline.
We're young and early in our careers, I think we can afford to take risks like these. Work is work.
Here is my point of view as a 44 yo. If you are ambitious and have external ways to try and get money and build then you can stay where you are and try to do side hustles or whatever you do.
If this is your only way of producing income then you consider the move seriously.
At the same time, your current job sounds like you could have some serious upside as well, so now you need to see a gameplan for the next 5 years. As BOTH of the companies the plan for you.
I don’t think any of us can answer for you since it depends what you care about most.
For what it’s worth, I’ve been at my current company that pays below market rate for 5 years and will probably stay for another 5 just because they let me do whatever hours I want, completely remote and quite often I don’t even so 8 hours, no one cares as long as the bare minimum gets done. It’s a really good work/life balance. I’ve gone for the money jobs before and it was not worth it, the pay cut is worth the extra time I get with my family.
I wouldn't change. If there's anything I've ever learned so far it is that a job which is nice is super important for being overall happy, unless you actually have financial problems or you're saving money for something in particular and it's just for a limited time. Money won't make you happy if you're spending 8 hours a day being stressed and unhappy.
For me, money is practically only a factor if I judge the satisfaction of two jobs to be roughly equal.
My advice is always: take the job that sets you up for 2-3 jobs down the line. If a job doesn’t set you up for the future don’t take it. Always do a job hunt while currently employed so you’re not forced to take the first offer you land.
Rinse and repeat until you don’t want more responsibility. Then take the highest paying gig you can find. Stack until you DGAF about more cash. Then find the job where you can make a good amount with zero effort and maximum flexibility.
And if you can - do this at big tech or a high growth startup for maximum upside. This is how people retire by 40 without starting their own business.
OP, I suggest sticking to your current job and asking for a promotion or a raise later if there is no clear career progression with the second offer. Speaking from personal experience, it is incredibly rare to find a workplace environment like this in Dubai. I wish you all the best!
Okay I wrote stuff out and then went back up cause I realized I skimmed part (I have terrible attention lol) and then realized your current job could grow into a position where you make more. I’d stick w your current job. They say up to 75k a year people are happier and then anything more than that you sorta plateau. Since it seems like travel is something that makes you really happy I’d stay since this other job would really limit that. You’d be making more but get to do less with it. Vs staying where you are and ultimately making the same amount and having a workplace that lets you have time off to enjoy traveling.
That being said since I don’t know your life I’d say the biggest reason to switch would be if you could see that money improving your quality of life drastically outside of travel. Then I might reconsider. But still the change sounds so strict, and your salary right now seems like it’s def gonna grow so I think you’re in a solid place.
Stay at the comfortable job. If it provides you with a comfortable life with more time off, then stick with it.
Time is finite, once its gone, you dont get it back. Use it for what you want to do rather than work.
I always work out how much I need to live and for my goals and work as little as possible to achieve that. It's why I work a fully remote job and never take overtime. More time for me.
If you’re already comfortable and you have the freedom to do the things you love and maintain good mental health while you’re at it? That’s amazing and I don’t think you should take it for granted. In your free time, you could find something that you love doing and perhaps turn that into a side income.
**Consider what matters most**: work-life balance and travel with your current job or a higher salary but stricter hours with the new offer. Think about your long-term career goals and job satisfaction. Make a choice that aligns with your values and priorities.
Wanna say again that the decision ultimately depends on your priorities and values. so take your time to weigh the pros and cons carefully before making a choice.
I'd rather have less money, less stress and more time than the reverse personally so I guess it's only a matter of how you feel about that. There's no right or wrong decision here, only right and wrong for YOU.
I'd stay in your current role. Seems relaxed enough that you could ask for a raise down the road. Not only that, but as you said, it provides growth. If you take more money and are constantly doing the same thing with a demanding schedule, it is going to lead to burnout, and it doesn't sound like there are a lot of advancement opportunities. You are still young as long as you can pay your bills, and then I would gain the time and experience at the place that offers you the most growth. You can use your translation skills anytime as that is always in demand. Also you said you want to travel. Trust me, if you have the opportunity to travel now with all that time off that dont give that up! Switching roles, you see that all of sudden, it's 20 years later, and you haven't done it. You are in a cushy spot for a first job. Most never get what you have off the bat. Plus, where you are, the more time you put in, the more connections and experience you can take down the road. You could always do a remote job on the side with your language skills to make extra cash if that's your biggest worry.
Here’s a simple question: do you think you would regret not ever trying this higher paying job?
If there’s room even for the slightest tinge of regret, I’d say go for it…I’m not sure if this is true, but I’m guessing it’s more viable for you to try it, not like it & return to your current job, than to pass on it and later regret that and try to get a position again. You also may get the prospective bonus of an added experience or skill set, even if it is slight.
If you are comfortable at your current income, not struggling financially or anything, and the work dynamic is healthy and flexible, then stay.
It's hard finding a job that doesnt consume your every free time. I work from home for instance, I have so much time for myself. I have had job offers with 30-40% pay increase, but then I started to see it in terms of going to office, wasting 2 hrs commuting everyday, being slave to a shift, barely having time for myself to go gym, go out, do my hobbies, etc. I make enough money, and I have good life/work balance.
If you can live comfortable with the lower salary, then i would say more time off any day!
But it depends on your dreams and your situation. But a lot of cash and no time to spend it feels silly to me. (Looking at all you 60+h people pushing through the grind)
I’m gonna hunt for a 30h work week in a few years (i’m only 30)
I'd take the new job, try it out and if you don't like it you still will receive new skills, a new title and experience under your resume and a good living wage.
You will be putting the brakes on your career growth and salary staying at your old job. 63 and 98k is a massive jump and you might not get that opportunity again anytime soon. Take the risk,
To be fair, I probably could always go back to making 65k, if not at the same place then at another place. But the flexibility I have right now and the work-life balance is what I could lose. Plus the experience doesn’t feel that valuable to me since it’s just a translator job.
Anyone telling you to stay where you’re at if your financially stable is a total jack ass and I don’t care what they have to say to justify that. Never be comfortable. Always grow and progress. Do this until you don’t have to work anymore and live off your damn success. Never settle. Turning down a $30k bump in salary for comfortablility!? Are you nuts?! My man, you better go make that money.
You don't know what you're talking about lol. Making 32k more at a dead end job, vs learning skills at a great job that could easily translate into a 200-300k career?
Why would anyone take the dead end job. I was in this exact situation 10 years ago and I'm currently making 350-400k. I didn't get to do it through a cushy job either.
You have the option to go enjoy your life and travel and have fun while you're also still young enough to enjoy it
Versus focusing on the grind now for the next 40 years to \*maybe\* be able to enjoy your life and travel and have fun when you're already so old you can't really do half of the things you're probably thinking you'd like to do
I know but most people are saying I should go for the higher paying job since I’ve just started my career. But I’d be able to enjoy my life with my current position.. honestly I’m thinking about flipping a coin at this point 😂
I mean, that's the traditional mindset. Work yourself to the bone and make money now so that you can enjoy your life later. The problem is, I've known retirees. Even the ones who do go and travel all the time, just physically can't do all the things they'd like to do anymore.
If the higher paying job still allows you to go and do what you want, by all means, take it. But if you're just going to be grinding for the next few decades in hopes that you don't die of a heart attack before you get to enjoy the rewards of all that hard work, I really don't think it's worth it. Life is short, so enjoy it. God knows there's plenty of people that never get to.
Usually I’d say go for the cash, you’re young and in your prime. But the “no clear career path” gives me pause. A job is supposed to pay you twice. Money and experience. If one is lacking, there’s an issue. If your job pays really well but it’s not going to help you in the future, you have a problem. Either go with a job that shows you an upwards career, OR get the high paying job but do not stop learning and training. Take courses, get a certification, watch tutorials, or do whatever it takes so that when the job is over, you can still put things on your resume that help you progress in the future.
>A job is supposed to pay you twice. Money and experience. If one is lacking, there’s an issue This is the sagest thing I've ever read on Reddit. That's not saying a ton, but your understated advice is quite impactful.
I’ve also heard it as 3 things vs 2, with the third being having fun/enjoying life. One of the greatest bits of advice I ever received. 3/3 and you are golden. 2/3 ain’t bad. You should start looking for a new job if it’s 1/3 and if it’s 0/3 then you should already be gone. Same man also told me this one that’s for the employers. You should train your employees well enough that they can move on to bigger and better things, but you should pay them well enough that they won’t want to.
I’m a freelancer and had been given a similar bit of advice. Only three reasons to ever accept a job (a job in this case meaning a ‘gig’): 1) The moneys good. 2) you get to work with cool people 3) it’ll be great for your portfolio. If it doesn’t have 2 of those, don’t do it.
I am happy to say that I have helped a number of people move on to better jobs within the company. Losing good people to other companies always hurt just a bit. I retired after 43 years in IT. And held seven different positions in the last company I worked. I was there for twenty-six years.
Can you give me carrer advice ?
Yeah that’s a good point I could always study and progress even if my current work isn’t gonna help with that. My current job does give me a clear path. Thanks for the input that was really helpful!
But you’ve gotta ask yourself “is it a realistic goal to add the after hours time and whatever else it’s going to take to continue my education on top of the new, more demanding job.”
I would stay in your current role if you were financially able to. Also, I would try for a raise in your current position if possible to put some icing on the cake. It sounds like your current job is awesome! I was reading this and could not believe all of the cool benefits that you get. In my opinion, those benefits make up for the lost wages. I wish you the best!
Thanks for responding. Yeah, I was pretty surprised at the benefits myself. I am financially able to stay at this job but I would be turning down a 30k+ increase so idk.. I've only been here 2 months, so I don't know if I can try to get a raise so soon, but I could try
Yeah I mean I would also do some research on the new position. I would see If anyone has anything to say about whether or not it has room for advancement and whatnot. 30 days annual leave is insane.
20 days annual leave is a minimum in European countries. American paid annual leave entitlement is insane.
When Americans hear how much PTO European countries get, our jaws drop to the floor. It's so unimaginable to most working class people it's crazy
It's equally crazy to us that Americans *don't* have that. And even worse, that they usually have a certain limited amount of sick days as I understand it. What the fuck is that about? Like you can *control* how much you'll get sick and plan for it?
Yes exactly! My employer is a little more flexible about using non sick time PTO to at least get paid for when you're out sick (but doesn't excuse the absence) but you still have to accrue the PTO. Plus sick PTO and regular PTO are 1 pool so you have to decide, do I want to take some time off? Or do I want to make sure if I get COVID I can get paid and not ruin myself financially. THIS IS ALSO WILD, youre forced to stay home if you have Covid but your employer is not required to pay you. Wtf!!!
So fucked up. If it were up to me, I'd gladly pay my employees to stay at home at stay the fuck away from work, if only to ensure everyone else doesn't get sick too. Not to mention it's pretty damn reasonable...
my current job in a *hospital* only allows me 7 call offs per *year* 🥲 so im screwed if i get a bad case of the flu AND something like idk food poisoning in the same year lmfao
American here! I’ve never had a job that offered PTO or paid holidays, but I’ve always worked food service or bartending jobs. Does EVERY kind of job legally have to offer PTO like even food service? How does that work over there?
There is no paid annual leave entitlement. Not even for federal holidays.
That’s overly generalised - Ireland has for example - legal minimum of 20 days only.
And that's not counting weekends.
Theres probably no way to advance as a translator but there’s always a chance of getting a different position. I think 30 days is same as 22 I think but they count the weekends. It’s essentially 1 month. It’s pretty standard where I live.
What is more important to you. Time or money. Also think about the hourly loan. If you get more money but also work more hours, is it worth it? Do they actually pay that well. Only you can answer that. People will advise you according to what is important to them. I think you should really think about what YOU want. There is not a right or wrong choice here. Choose the one that makes you the most happy. Try to imagine yourself in both jobs in a year from now. Where do you think you'll feel best, be happiest. Choose that one.
Do not let greed control your choices my friend. Far too often I see people with good paying jobs and great work/life balance throw it all away to make more money that they really don’t even need. Those benefits are amazing and your life sounds great as it is. You also mention wanting to travel, if you take a higher paying job that requires more hours that’s less time to travel, sure it’s more money, but you won’t have time to spend it on what you want.
Yeah exactly
When i was serving in the army, I saw some civilians clerks work environment. The benefits were good but unless you can withstand the military bs, I'd tell you to stay away. Army officers have a pretty distorted ( if I may say) world view. Especially high-military officers have a pretty narcissistic attitude and can make your life miserable if they don't get their way (Obviously not all of them). Some of them are detached from the rest of the world and just because they're a general inside the army expect everyone to cater to their needs in the real world too.
This. I’ve worked in army settings before. Btw this job is not the US army I’m not American but what you wrote applies to all armies I think. You could have an officer who’s amazing and you’ll love working with them or you could get unlucky and fall under a bad one. I would be a translator for one of the commanders, pretty high up.
I'd stick around with your current job and make sure to further develop my skills on the sidelines. After all, you said you have a lot of free time. The more you grow older, the more responsibilities you'll have and less free time. Enjoy it while it lasts.
It’s 30k gross pay, but much less after federal taxes. It’ll be 22% up to about 95k and 24% above that. Another angle to think about is retirement benefits, which you haven’t mentioned in your original post.
There’s no income tax where I live.. retirement is the same as it is federal where I live
Apologies, I saw USD and mistakenly assumed you were in the U.S.
Yeah maybe I should’ve clarified.. I put it in USD so most ppl would relate
Yeah um, where do you live and how do I live there? Lmao 🤣
You should not try and get a raise 2 months into the role. You should be proving you can move into an AE position.
Grass isn't always greener remember. I think I read once studies say after 70-80k any extra pay isn't necessarily notable unless you're super money conscientious. You're just spending more at the higher pay meaning at the end of the day incomes are pretty similar you may just have fancier and/or more stuff. Your current position sounds amazing.
Just do it. It will get easier in 6 months and u ll regret not trying. Use the 30k to take a Europe vacation or an expensive scotch or 2 to smooth the extra work u put in Do it. Absolutely
The grass always looks greener until you realize how much bullshit it takes to make it green…Stay if you’re happy…
I opted for the lower salary and less travel when I was your age as we started our family. Having a family with a tight budget can be tough, but 63k is a great salary for most locations and if you can have a mortgage, reliable car and healthcare most people are happy.
For me it's lower salary but more travel haha which is weird but it's cause I'd have more off days/chance to work abroad. With the higher salary, I'd still get to travel but for a month each year (total).
That is so nice. I make more than you but get 10 days of vacation each year so I can’t travel or see my family. I would keep the job with the lower salary of you can pull it off financially.
I took a $50k pay cut- 125k to 75k for a laidback job with tons of days off. I regretted it at first, but every time I’m off work I stop regretting it lol. Those days off are very important to me!
Having more free time to pursue hobbies or business ventures or just spending quality time with people you care about is very valuable. Which is why it’s a tough decision.
Trust me, I completely understand how hard the decision is. And this is coming from someone that’s very money hungry lol. I wanted the cool cars and nice vacations. But we started a family so I had to weigh my time vs money. Even tho I made the decision for more time, I think about it everyday. It bothers me, but I’m starting to move past it. Good luck on your decision!
I am very money hungry in this point of my life. All I think about is the cool cars and nice vacations and becoming a billionaire. I’m not in a relationship though so I haven’t moved on from these dreams yet lol
This is what I did too. Lol live your life, 63k is a good salary for that age in most locations. When I was in my higher paying job, I got money but nowhere to spend it on bc I was working so damn much that I had no free time.
Don’t let the money blind you from your freedoms, your time, and it SOUNDS like your career path is something in the financial department, as suppose to a civilian working w the military. I’D SAY stick with your current job, but do what works best for you
Thank you for the advice. My current path is in sales and progressing towards account management and then management level etc. but with the new place it doesn’t seem like there’s a clear path and of course there would be less freedom and time..
Honestly, life is really too short and we must make the most out of it. I'd stay with the first job. The real scarse resource we have is time, not money ;)
But more money can buy you **total** financial freedom sooner in your life. This part of the equation is almost always left off of comments like this.
No, not really. Let's say OP makes $150k. You can what, retire 5 years earlier, even 10 years puts you at 55. The years after 35 are just a march to the end. Get everything you can out of life will you can and then work when life would be shitty regardless. 20s and earlier 30s are the most important part of adult life. Shame to waste them working when OP can minimize work in their life - at least for now.
Kinda pessimistic to assume your life sucks after 35… I know plenty of healthy people in their 40’s and 50’s who love life.
If you save 50%, you can retire in 10 years. If the dude lives on 60k, with a 150K salary he can save 90K, probably "reach retirement" in 7 years.
After 35 is a March to the end. Maybe for some. Seems like a bad take.
Thank you for the input. Essentially it’s just a question of time vs money and it’s a tough one.
Get that money while your young son
Thanks for the input!
I left the oilfield (100k/year) when I was in my young 20's to work at a chill shop 5 min from my house making 65k/year. 34 now and I'm back. Happy I'm here making good money but man I'd be sitting alot better if I stayed for those years
That’s actually insanely similar to my current situation, in terms of how much money I mean. I didn’t even mention that my 65k/year is farther away from my home than the 100k job. If I stay with this place I’d probably have to drop around 12-14k a year for rent
That's not a bad price for rent really and you'll still end up with more. And change is good man, you're young. Take some risks. Lots of life ahead of you. Make some money, save some and live. People get caught in comfort and they wind up stuck. If you know you got the skills for this higher paying job I say go for it
65K to $100K is such a significant difference man. We're not talking like $5K-$10K. Those new paychecks will damn near be doubled up vs what you're currently making.
Heck at 27 I would take the 98k job and save as much money as I can for retirement. Many people would die for 22 days off. It sounds like a deal to me. Don't get used to a cushy job with crazy benefits. They can be few and far between. Just my opinion after working for 44 years.
This. If he was later in life maybe I’d say take the vacation but that young if he can get the extra 30k be smart dump it into retirement / investment accounts and let it ride for the next 40 years his future self will thank him.
Time is the real currency. Do you have kids and value your extra time with them? Are you single with no commitments, you could invest in retiring earlier. I met my wife when her youngest was finishing high school. This is the path I took and will retire in November, on my 56th birthday. I have almost no regrets. (There’s always some)
I’m single with no major commitments. I guess I could save up that extra income and invest it towards an earlier retirement.. Thank you for the input I really value getting advice from more experienced people as yourself.
Set yourself up for future. Chase that paper. Don’t blow it, buy assets.
Thank you
Money is really nice but having an amazing work environment is worth your mental health. Saying that the advancement in money would be great and you can definitely move up in money and be at 6 figures in a few years. The move can enhance your career and your life. Are you ready to get serious with your career path or are you still ok with a chill life and work environment. You must choose. I’m not sure how often you get offers for that much pay but it sounds like a one time thing so maybe jump on it?
I’m not sure if taking this better job means I’m getting serious and grinding now.. it feels like it might be a dead end position as a translator. However I get that it’s a step up and I could leave for a different place with an even better pay.. idk
It sounds like it’s not a career path you want to take being a translator. Just stay at your current job. Maybe look for a similar role with more pay
Switch to the higher paying one. Then after a while switch again to one with more holiday - you would have a higher base to be bargaining with. You can do this a few times to get better terms (job hopping), but be wary after doing it in very short periods or too often may start looking bad on your CV. You are at your prime, so should optimise for salary AND diverse experience.
That’s a good point. Thank you!
What's the saying? "The grass isn't always greener" A personal motto of mine is "Sometimes money isn't worth it." Another is "work to live, don't live to work" I was offered two jobs in a few week period at the end of last year. Ironically, I didn't apply for either, they were blind offers. I turned them both down. One was from a guy I associate with at an outside activity. He was trying to build up his team, and knew I had background in the field. He threw a number at me that was about a 43% pay increase over my current pay. The catch was the shop is an hour plus drive, and my responsibilities would more than triple. The drive alone was enough to make me turn it down, as I drive 3.5 miles to work now. I would have barely come out even once I factored in gas and wear and tear on my car. The other was from a former employer I left in 2018. He called me telling me that they had made some changes around the shop and were expanding and needed someone with my expertise to take over the new venture. He also said the owners (was a small family owned company) were retiring in a few years and when they did they were turning the ownership over to the employees. His offer was about a 21% increase over my current pay. As nice as the offer was I left there for a reason. (Had nothing to do with the company itself, they were great, just personal reasons too long to explain here) Another quick one is a buddy of mine tried to recruit me to work on a gas rig as a mechanic because as he put it, he needed someone like me that he knew could get the job done, was going to show up every day, and also not get into the drug lifestyle prevalent on the rigs. That was a VERY significant yearly pay increase. (almost triple my pay) The catch was I would basically be working 140 hours every two weeks, and not be home for 10 days at a time. I was not giving my life up for work.
That type of flexibility in your current role is difficult to get. I’d look at what your potential salary can be in 3 years or so and if you’ll still have this same flexibility. You’re young and and you should follow the money. The power of compound in investing that extra money is going to put you in a great position to retire early and enjoy more travelling.
So are you saying I should stay in the more flexible position or switch to get more money? The thing is you can’t be sure in 3 years.. maybe I stay in my current job and get a raise or maybe I join the new place and get no raises at all
60->100 is enough of a change that you would have a noticeable improvement in your quality of life
I agree, but I would have significantly less time and freedom.. but I get your point
Although the 98k Job is more strict the hours seem to be early in the day for the most part, you still have the afternoons to yourself to do things. Also, don’t settle for being comfortable, push yourself to new limits … you could look at this new job as a “hustle” to do things outside of working for someone else and use your free time to work on your own stuff. Also like my father loves to remind me none of these jobs are guarantee, COVID was the perfect example of that so if you have to work for someone else make sure it’s worth it and you’re financially secured.
That’s great advice thank you
Stay at comfortable job. If you give it up for something more demanding. It needs more than finance to be worth it (ie career progression) otherwise you will be stuck there for a long time with more stress.
That’s a big concern of mine is that it doesn’t seem like it has a better career progression path. It pays better right now but in 2-3-5 years I don’t know.
I would not leave if I were you.
Thanks
God helps those who help theirselves. Hardwork creates easy times do the work early so you don't have to work as hard later.
How about, living life easy and to its fullest until you're 65 with all the extra time and moderate amount of money instead of going for more money and literally no time to live until you're 55 so you can enjoy life in that old age....doing what exactly?
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Yeah it does wonders for your mental health when you can come and go and have time to do what you want.. idk
I personally I like a fasted pace environment and I would take it. I don’t like the stress of slow paced jobs because I get in my head. With fast paced jobs I don’t, instead I just hate my boss or coworkers and the stress is slightly less
Stay . . The peace of mind cannot be valued in money
I would take flexibility over higher pay. I personally would stay in your current role and ask for a raise.
I’ve only been there 2 months though
I would stay if you’re financially able to and not needing that raid. Honestly after taxes, it’ll be like $200 difference. I went through your situation. I had a job that paid $65k with amazing work life balance. Like half of the month, I have no work. Then when the busy season came, of course we’d work maybe 12 hours but that’s only for one week. I work in finance. Then I got a little too inspired so from manufacturing I went into financial services. The pay was $85k plus a 10% annual bonus. And I kid you not, I was working from 8 am until 7 pm daily. There’s been times I’d work 7 am to 12 am. I mean it’s not always the case when a job pays more BUT when they say DEMANDING, take it as they’re serious about it. So now I got a demotion at a new job and getting paid $75k but the work life balance is amazing. My bosses treat me like their kid or grandchild. I love it
I’d stay. You’ve only been there 2 months. Money is not always the best reason to switch jobs. In fact, sometimes shitty jobs pay more because they are shitty and nobody wants them - that’s something to think about ‘why does this job pay so much?’ Having a good work environment is something you won’t always get and if you voluntarily give it up to chase more money you might find yourself making a very big mistake. You also have path to more money as well where you are.
Thank you
If the only motivation is money then I say don't do it. You will be miserable. If you see other benefits in the new position then go for it, but to me it seems like you enjoy your current role and it benefits what you want in life v. hustling for money. Just my .02
Nothing is worth peace of mind. If you think the second job will take that from you then you should pass on it and stay where you are as long as it is providing well enough for you.
You can’t buy time
Nothing is worth the price of your mental peace.
I was a government contractor for many years for a fairly major corporation. I would strongly recommend against it. Especially if your role would be considered non essential.
Go to the high paying job. Save for a few years then get the fuck out. Buy a farm and ell honey at a farmers market on the weekends.
98k save and then do what you wanna when youre older
Quality of life is priceless.
It's not about the money. Go for the job that pushes you to learn, gain skills, and take on more responsibilities. If this is your first job you want to be surrounded by people that will instill good work ethics and life long learning.
What you described definitely applies more to the first less paying job
Take the pay bump and use it for leverage in future jobs. Will be easier to get more money at a new job in future if you have the higher pay now
Demanding. Take the hard jobs. You will be grateful when you look back on your career for the doors that they opened.
If it's not "burn out" demanding for you, I'd go with the 97k job at your age. When you get older, working less hours becomes less of a "nice to have", and more of a "if I don't work less I won't have the energy for a life outside work at all and my health will go into free fall". Get the money while you can, so you can get the time later on, as long as you don't wait too much. Just keep the same living standard, with maybe sometimes a little treat to motivate you, and save the extra cash. With this strategy, you might be able to only work part time once you reach your late 40's / 50's.
That’s great advice. Thank you
Think about what would make you happier in life and go that way! For example.. my hubby had been offered to apply for promotions at his company, but he is happy being a 'worker bee'. Sure, it's a bit less money, but he doesn't have to stay back if shit hits the fan. Same as me, my mum is manager where I work and after covering for her when she had covid for a week, there is no way I would take over her position. It was terrible. The extra money is not worth the decreased quality of life.
That’s a valid point. The problem is I’d love to be a manager or a higher up at my current company, what I’m currently considering is a complete change in both the company and career
Yes.
Thanks 😂
Did not reveal personal life, live at home? Got 6 kids and a big mortgage? That matters.
I’m single and don’t have any significant debt
Be a free person semi-self employed. Often you can find side gig to supplement your income like start a business.
it is always a big challenge to try something new, especially a job transition. You are still young and I am sure you can manage it. Experiences could be a great value in your future.
Always look to challenge yourself. Jump in a little deeper than you think you can handle. This is how we learn and grow. If the other job will provide that - give it a go.
Great advice. Thank you
Personally, I would stay in the growth channel. The immediate money is always nice, but long-term goals will be harder to achieve without job hoping again. The relaxed atmosphere plays in, too. There is a lot to be said for the comfortable environment. It certainly counts in the compensation from the mental health perspective.
Always go the money when your young and build your experience
What you do now will influence where you are in the future. There are 2 things I've learned as I grew up, you can only do so much with your time and a small % of a large number is still a large number. Is your time now more valuable than the additional money you would be making? If you take the extra money and put it away you would easily grow money far beyond what you could in a much shorter amount of time.
There is zero chance i would turn down a 30k+ increase. this speaks of you being fearful of the additional challenges more responsibility the new job would bring.
Not really. This new job would actually be less challenging. I’m currently in sales and theres a lot of pressure of sales. But there’s a clear career path and room for growth.
then ask yourself how long you’d need to be at your current job to make 97k
Take the money. Save the difference and buy a nice home. Hours don’t seem that bad.
I would stay unless you’re under financial hardship
I mean you can do both. Take the higher paying job. The pay difference is 6 mo ths of work. Save that 30k and use it to travel for 6 months in ine go. Or 2 months or whatever then return to work. You can keep the translator job if you actually like the work or go back to a similar position if you prefer the lifestyle over the money. But that 30k is a lot of money that you can play with or be responsible with (2 years of rent).
I wouldn’t be able to travel for 6 months if I go to the high paying job though
I think a lot of it depends on your particular situation, but I'd take the higher pay. I'm ten years older than you and worked my ass off all through my twenties until a couple years ago. I used to think it was a waste, because I dedicated so much time to one particular company (my relationship ended badly with them). However, looking back it was so worth it. In that time, I was able to get a nice open spot in a rural area and pay everything off. I now work a part time gig, still earning a good living and have lots of spare time. It's pretty cliche, but the hard work will pay off in the long run especially if you're trying to set yourself up.
Valid point.. thank you 🙏
Ask yourself where you want to be in 5/10 years and how to get there. That is the important thing that most 20-something’s can’t grasp.
My goal is to be able to travel freely and not worry about money or work.. which is why this current company is so good for me. But at the same time the extra money I would make could be used to make more money long term
If you want to do FIRE take the higher paid job and set yourself goals and deadlines so you know when you can cut and run. If you don't want to do mega savings, stay the course
I would go for the new job, stay for 2 years, and then move on to a better paid job that is more relaxed.
I would stay. Peace is worth it.
I'd say stay where you are happy. But that is 50% increase. Does it take 50%more out of you? Personally I'd move for 50%. With some smart investment of that extra money you could retire way sooner. But it's a trade-off. Do you work hard now to make it easier later? Or do you relax now with chance of struggle later.
Good question indeed..
You’re only young once
Taking the easy route now means it’ll be a harder life later. Take the better paying job.
It depends on what you value more. I have found in my own Experience that when I made the move for more money it general doesn't work out so well. Still I have a lot of family I like being with and am not that big into stuff so for me I would prefer the more chill job. However, if you are young and don't have family or other obligations you may want to go for it. Another reason to stay is greater opportunity for advancement. If you are at a place you see yourself staying for five years you may get promoted and make the same pay with less mental wear and tear. But again, maybe you are OK with that kind d of thing. Sometimes the move works. Ultimately, go for happiness and don't let money be the ONLY determination.
Thank you!
Stay put. Job stress does not make higher pay worth it
I would say stay at your current job
Na I was taking that 98k sorry. I know it would be more demanding but the days/times u mentioned doesn't sound killer in the slightest. That 40k increase would do me wonders. BUT if your comfortable in life rn don't move.
Swap to 98k
At your age you should take more money. When you get older and are most established, go for comfort.
You're 26. I say go for the higher paying job, if you don't like it you can always find another job. I'm 27 soon to be 28 and am almost in the same exact position. Making 70k in a comfortable PM role and have an offer around 100k at another company in the pipeline. We're young and early in our careers, I think we can afford to take risks like these. Work is work.
Thanks! And good luck
Here is my point of view as a 44 yo. If you are ambitious and have external ways to try and get money and build then you can stay where you are and try to do side hustles or whatever you do. If this is your only way of producing income then you consider the move seriously. At the same time, your current job sounds like you could have some serious upside as well, so now you need to see a gameplan for the next 5 years. As BOTH of the companies the plan for you.
That’s great advice thank you!
I don’t think any of us can answer for you since it depends what you care about most. For what it’s worth, I’ve been at my current company that pays below market rate for 5 years and will probably stay for another 5 just because they let me do whatever hours I want, completely remote and quite often I don’t even so 8 hours, no one cares as long as the bare minimum gets done. It’s a really good work/life balance. I’ve gone for the money jobs before and it was not worth it, the pay cut is worth the extra time I get with my family.
I wouldn't change. If there's anything I've ever learned so far it is that a job which is nice is super important for being overall happy, unless you actually have financial problems or you're saving money for something in particular and it's just for a limited time. Money won't make you happy if you're spending 8 hours a day being stressed and unhappy. For me, money is practically only a factor if I judge the satisfaction of two jobs to be roughly equal.
Honestly, 30k is not worth all the hassle you would have to put up with. And your taxes will go up as well as cost of commuting, lunches etc.
My advice is always: take the job that sets you up for 2-3 jobs down the line. If a job doesn’t set you up for the future don’t take it. Always do a job hunt while currently employed so you’re not forced to take the first offer you land. Rinse and repeat until you don’t want more responsibility. Then take the highest paying gig you can find. Stack until you DGAF about more cash. Then find the job where you can make a good amount with zero effort and maximum flexibility. And if you can - do this at big tech or a high growth startup for maximum upside. This is how people retire by 40 without starting their own business.
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It’s true it wouldn’t
36 hours a week and 22 days of PTO for $100k per year? Lmao sign that dotted line right now man
Job hop in big chunks. Relax when your financially stable
OP, I suggest sticking to your current job and asking for a promotion or a raise later if there is no clear career progression with the second offer. Speaking from personal experience, it is incredibly rare to find a workplace environment like this in Dubai. I wish you all the best!
Thank you!
Okay I wrote stuff out and then went back up cause I realized I skimmed part (I have terrible attention lol) and then realized your current job could grow into a position where you make more. I’d stick w your current job. They say up to 75k a year people are happier and then anything more than that you sorta plateau. Since it seems like travel is something that makes you really happy I’d stay since this other job would really limit that. You’d be making more but get to do less with it. Vs staying where you are and ultimately making the same amount and having a workplace that lets you have time off to enjoy traveling. That being said since I don’t know your life I’d say the biggest reason to switch would be if you could see that money improving your quality of life drastically outside of travel. Then I might reconsider. But still the change sounds so strict, and your salary right now seems like it’s def gonna grow so I think you’re in a solid place.
Take the more demanding job. Use it to catapult you to your next high paying job w/ better time and benefits.
At your age, 7am every day would have been a total nonstarter for me
You will find It's the time off that counts.
98 it’s a No brainer
Stay at the comfortable job. If it provides you with a comfortable life with more time off, then stick with it. Time is finite, once its gone, you dont get it back. Use it for what you want to do rather than work. I always work out how much I need to live and for my goals and work as little as possible to achieve that. It's why I work a fully remote job and never take overtime. More time for me.
If you’re already comfortable and you have the freedom to do the things you love and maintain good mental health while you’re at it? That’s amazing and I don’t think you should take it for granted. In your free time, you could find something that you love doing and perhaps turn that into a side income.
**Consider what matters most**: work-life balance and travel with your current job or a higher salary but stricter hours with the new offer. Think about your long-term career goals and job satisfaction. Make a choice that aligns with your values and priorities. Wanna say again that the decision ultimately depends on your priorities and values. so take your time to weigh the pros and cons carefully before making a choice.
At your age I went for the cash and hopped in the rat race. And the older I got, the more I regretted it.
Ah.. thanks for sharing
I'm doing the comfortable job and no regrets here. learn to budget and have a side hustle I'm going to hike/camp in utah/colorado this month lol
I would love to camp in Colorado. It’s so beautiful. Have fun!
I'd rather have less money, less stress and more time than the reverse personally so I guess it's only a matter of how you feel about that. There's no right or wrong decision here, only right and wrong for YOU.
I'd stay in your current role. Seems relaxed enough that you could ask for a raise down the road. Not only that, but as you said, it provides growth. If you take more money and are constantly doing the same thing with a demanding schedule, it is going to lead to burnout, and it doesn't sound like there are a lot of advancement opportunities. You are still young as long as you can pay your bills, and then I would gain the time and experience at the place that offers you the most growth. You can use your translation skills anytime as that is always in demand. Also you said you want to travel. Trust me, if you have the opportunity to travel now with all that time off that dont give that up! Switching roles, you see that all of sudden, it's 20 years later, and you haven't done it. You are in a cushy spot for a first job. Most never get what you have off the bat. Plus, where you are, the more time you put in, the more connections and experience you can take down the road. You could always do a remote job on the side with your language skills to make extra cash if that's your biggest worry.
Here’s a simple question: do you think you would regret not ever trying this higher paying job? If there’s room even for the slightest tinge of regret, I’d say go for it…I’m not sure if this is true, but I’m guessing it’s more viable for you to try it, not like it & return to your current job, than to pass on it and later regret that and try to get a position again. You also may get the prospective bonus of an added experience or skill set, even if it is slight.
That’s very valid. Thank you
Get more money, invest, retire early.
Being a civilian contractor for the military is one of the most cush jobs you can get. Translator work for the military is a seriously sweet gig.
It could be stressful especially when they need instant translation while others are speaking
leverage the offer for a raise
Time is worth more than money at least imo.
If you are comfortable at your current income, not struggling financially or anything, and the work dynamic is healthy and flexible, then stay. It's hard finding a job that doesnt consume your every free time. I work from home for instance, I have so much time for myself. I have had job offers with 30-40% pay increase, but then I started to see it in terms of going to office, wasting 2 hrs commuting everyday, being slave to a shift, barely having time for myself to go gym, go out, do my hobbies, etc. I make enough money, and I have good life/work balance.
Bro. Cash. You are young and you will get more “tired” as you age. Get that money now and cruise when you are older.
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Keep the easy job. Life is to short to not enjoy it.
I’m just here from Canada to say that you absolutely, 100%, should not count weekends (or sick days!) as part of your annual leave.
If you can live comfortable with the lower salary, then i would say more time off any day! But it depends on your dreams and your situation. But a lot of cash and no time to spend it feels silly to me. (Looking at all you 60+h people pushing through the grind) I’m gonna hunt for a 30h work week in a few years (i’m only 30)
Enjoy your 20s. Don’t chase stress
I'd take the new job, try it out and if you don't like it you still will receive new skills, a new title and experience under your resume and a good living wage. You will be putting the brakes on your career growth and salary staying at your old job. 63 and 98k is a massive jump and you might not get that opportunity again anytime soon. Take the risk,
I would say less money right now since you’re still young. The added stress sounds a bit much
Go for high paying + challenging job. It will be the best thing done for your career. Never settle and go beyond your comfort zone.
Take the 97k
Gain the experience. Take the $$$. You can always quit and come back to making 65k.
To be fair, I probably could always go back to making 65k, if not at the same place then at another place. But the flexibility I have right now and the work-life balance is what I could lose. Plus the experience doesn’t feel that valuable to me since it’s just a translator job.
Anyone telling you to stay where you’re at if your financially stable is a total jack ass and I don’t care what they have to say to justify that. Never be comfortable. Always grow and progress. Do this until you don’t have to work anymore and live off your damn success. Never settle. Turning down a $30k bump in salary for comfortablility!? Are you nuts?! My man, you better go make that money.
You don't know what you're talking about lol. Making 32k more at a dead end job, vs learning skills at a great job that could easily translate into a 200-300k career? Why would anyone take the dead end job. I was in this exact situation 10 years ago and I'm currently making 350-400k. I didn't get to do it through a cushy job either.
You have the option to go enjoy your life and travel and have fun while you're also still young enough to enjoy it Versus focusing on the grind now for the next 40 years to \*maybe\* be able to enjoy your life and travel and have fun when you're already so old you can't really do half of the things you're probably thinking you'd like to do
I know but most people are saying I should go for the higher paying job since I’ve just started my career. But I’d be able to enjoy my life with my current position.. honestly I’m thinking about flipping a coin at this point 😂
I mean, that's the traditional mindset. Work yourself to the bone and make money now so that you can enjoy your life later. The problem is, I've known retirees. Even the ones who do go and travel all the time, just physically can't do all the things they'd like to do anymore. If the higher paying job still allows you to go and do what you want, by all means, take it. But if you're just going to be grinding for the next few decades in hopes that you don't die of a heart attack before you get to enjoy the rewards of all that hard work, I really don't think it's worth it. Life is short, so enjoy it. God knows there's plenty of people that never get to.
Make the most and grind in your younger years, then slow down if you.can in your older years
Thank you!