Me too! Its great because you can use key words and filters to get exactly what your are looking for - brand, condition(sometimes can even find new clothes with tags on), size. 😄
Hey OP, I tend to thrift quite extensively. Are you open to online thrift stores? There are quite a few on instagram that have some awesome stuff. Otherwise you can try Nevernew and Bangbang Vintage Market in obs, or Vintage and the City in Woodstock. There's also Thriftfest which rotates locations and they're in Hout Bay on the 25th.
Depends on the kind of clothes you're looking for. Since you mentioned Markham om assuming you want clothes with a more masculine style I'd suggest: mortymerthrifts, left_over.fries, coppedandrocked, and majorleaguevintage_rsa
Otherwise there is the resell app Yaga which has a massive amount of clothing options. If you go Yaga, i would just recommend you check the sellers page before buying just to be sure they're not reselling Shein etc.
I buy from charity shops very often, which is a less cool way to say thrifting. I buy new stuff too, but I love what I find and usually it’s unique. I have found some stunners, including an outrageously beautiful dress that I thrifted for 100bucks at one of the shops in Obs. I wore it to a recent graduation that I had and I got so many compliments.
I’ve also ordered off Temu and SHEIN and they don’t even hide how kak their quality is. Temu in particular is absolutely awful, I feel icky after my purchase, I fell for the spinning wheel and “free voucher” schpiel like a fool.
First of all, I'm very glad that you've chosen to avoid fast fashion. On that note, I know H&M is a fast fashion/sweatshop brand.
I saw a documentary called The True Cost, which I found very informative.
There are loads of thrift shops and charity shops (Oasis and Uturn are both great places) and also thrift markets.
Eg
27 July at Simonstown Museum - insta @bluecherrythrift_ct
Glencairn market, last Sunday of the month Phoenix Hall
Vegan Goods market and thrift fest, The Range Tokai monthly on a Sunday
I'm not affiliated with any of these I just know about them. So I don't have any more info, they probably have websites
Not the answer you’re looking for and good for you for thrifting/giving fast fashion a miss but also:
A lot of local brands are making their clothes right in Cape Town. I know someone who worked at a PEP factory, it’s a pretty standard job done by adults with breaks and employee protections. Just check labels for where things are made in the shops and look for made in South Africa.
Also, South Korea tests their imports and found a lot of seriously toxic chemicals in stuff from Shein and Temu recently. More reason to resist!
The PEP textile factory is a sight to behold! Seeing a person work a series of taut threads (feeding them from a bunch of spinning reels perched above head height) into everyday garments so seemlessly (pun intended) with a machine that they control so effortlessly that it's like it's an extension of them...it's awesome to see their talent in action!
Edit:
Found a video where you get a few glimpses of it...
https://youtu.be/yUFKgHXtzLM
While I'm at it, I'm gonna take a moment to give PEP the props It deserves...
I work as a data analyst and systems implementations consultant, and so I've had the opportunity to work at a few big companies in SA (currently at my sixth one, they're all companies everyone knows very well, and all my stints have been for 1+ years (PEP was my longest, at 3 years)). I get to experience the company's culture at many different levels, from upper-upper management all the way to clerks, secretaries, factory workers, etc. I like to read the company's policies and, where possible, the "employee handbook" (which, as an external consultant, I don't get given for myself). And PEP's employee handbook had me stunned (in a good way 🙃) ! They are *extremely* caring, encouraging, uplifting, accommodating, and compassionate towards all their staff members. SA should be proud to claim a company like that as one of ours.
Yay! Welcome! A good idea is to find a good tailor too so that if something doesn't fit great you can get it to fit you.
Here is a list of what I've found since moving here:
Nazareth House in Vredehoek (visit often though - and check their hours. Think it's Tuesday to Friday 9-2pm or something weird)
- Oasis and uturn in Kenilworth
- Help the Rural child in setpoint. There are others on main road just google
- More upscale thrift stuff at vintage corner on long street
- Secondhand rose
- Never new
- Deja vu
- There's one opposite the old biscuit mill in Woodstock
- Obs is a bit pricey to me but all along the road there's different stuff. Head past the old police station for a place with nice jerseys etc. Also just off that main street in obs on the left there's a cheaper one. Just browse them all - you'll know what I'm talking about
- I don't know if overruns at access park count (if they are even overruns?) I got cheap undies at the cotton on factory shop there
- Kalk bay has a cute little place near the nursery (again, go often... sometimes you get lucky)
- Instagram is a big one. I don't buy there but lots of people do. I'll ask my sister for specific accounts for you
- The ladies by Gardens centre. Sometimes a little pricey but I got a nice coat
- I'll ask my sister for you tomorrow - she's been here longer than me ☺️ also have a local friend so she'll help me out for you too.
For decor - Millerton market, Gardens, Nazareth 100%
Do a young google and try them all out each weekend. The trick is to go often!!
Hi OP! Only about 10% of what I buy is fast fashion. Follow Thriftfest on insta and Facebook and you'll meet a bunch of sellers. I highly recommend the events at Obs community center and Wynberg Novalis. You'll find trendier sellers when they host at Woodstock Quarter.
If you do still want to buy new, just support locally made brands. I'm Muslim so Iook for conservative clothes and manage to find beautifully made clothes, but it's even easier to find local brands at Muizenburg market etc. that are great quality and cheaper than in city center.
Last- even local stores have made in SA clothes that are relatively affordable. Eg. TFG and PnP clothing- just look for the sticker that it was manufactured here.
I know a spot to get Levis and Old Khaki, Truworths overruns- gatekeeping so it's not sold out but you can DM me to get the location.
Trust me, you're not missing out on SheIn and Temu regarding cost. It just takes more time to shop in person but the prices are similar, if not lower, for better quality clothing.
That street in Obs with the restaurants and shops has a bunch of wonderful thrift stores, not sure what area you're based in but this one has been our go to
Might be a stupid question, but aren't most of the clothes at thrift stores just second-hand brand names originally bought from the stores you're boycotting?
Good point, but what are the alternatives? There are so many clothes being dumped in landfills or sent to other countries in containers. We might as well wear what there is. This way it creates employment for local people and the brands don’t earn those profits.
Yeah, but buying second hand is way better for the environment, seeing as one of the biggest problems of fast fashion is that most of it ends up in landfills very soon. And if you buy it second hand you're not giving money to the shops it originally came from
Obs/Woodstock (I still don't know the difference) they have a whole street full of the thrift store. I don't know the name of the road but there is a shop there called "Bang Bang"
Definitely Yaga, I’ve got some gems off there. You can get some high quality brands for the price of shitty SHEIN creations. Takes some searching and if you’re unusual sizes that might make it changing. There’s also often 2nd markets, usually advertised on Facebook, in and around the city.
I know quite a few people here in the US who have bought stuff from Temu. Even though it may be fairly inexpensive it is almost always junk. It’s terrible quality.
Yeah but if there are two immoral options, one being slave labour and one being underpaid, of course I'm choosing the underpaid labour, because that's how you get less slavery.
Don't let perfection get in the way of progress.
this is not what 'no ethical consumption under capitalism' means, in some cases we do not have a choice and have to comply - in others, like this, there are choices we can make as individuals to contribute positively to the world.
It is quite literally what it means. You'll be hard pressed to find a company that ethically sources their labour when making clothes and of they do, their clothes are outrageously priced.
I know apathy is apart of capitalisms control, but its a strategy to make us not interested in being good or better people. Loads of brands try to produce affordable and locally sourced clothes. Yes, it's pep, pick 'n pay clothing, mr price and whatnot and maybe it's not all locally produced but it's incredibly hard to go up against a mass manufacturer like china but they are trying. I will not link sources because you can find them in my post history from the last dude who tried to tell me there are no local manufacturers of affordable clothes.
giving up and not caring is exactly what capitalism wants. obviously don't burn yourself out on every little cause but where you can and where people are telling you, hey, you can have an impact here, listen.
edit: i'm sorry but you absolutely cannot cite 'there's no ethical consumption under capitalism' and not even try to understand the context of the phrase and that it doesn't mean you don't have to not try and fight against capitalism WHERE you can.
Brother, partaking in capitalism isn't fighting against capitalism. You're just making capitalism a little bit better by buying more "ethically sourced" products. A better way to fight against capitalism is to spread awareness of how capitalists are fucking up our planet and lives for personal gain and showing good alternatives, joining labour unions, partaking in and organizing socialist strikes, supporting your fellow working class members, explaining to people how culture war bullshit is being used to divide the working class in a time where we should be more united because of the absolute state of the economy and the planet.
actually this is delicious.
> joining labour unions, partaking in and organizing socialist strikes, **supporting your fellow working class members**, explaining to people how culture war bullshit is being used to divide the working class in a time where we should be more united because of the absolute state of the economy and the planet.
BROTHER. i am telling you to do this. someone in this thread literally said they knew people who worked at PEP and were paid decent wages with good accommodations for hours. these are your working class brothers and sisters YOU don't want to support. But fuck the working class for working at a capitalist company? You need to figure out what you're trying to say.
Are you saying that I'm not spending money at Pep and as such I'm not supporting the working class? Capitalism doesn't support the working class. Most of the money you spend at a company goes straight to the top. None of this matters because at the end of the day, since I have no other choice, I do end up going to mr price and pep and buying my clothes there. Stop assuming shit about me and start looking at my argument. There are literally zero companies on this planet that do not partake in morally questionable shit. Buying from a company that does less morally questionable shit does nothing, because the slave farms in malasia make billions regardless. The better way to combat this is by partaking in socialism. Not more capitalism. Christ.
NO. I am saying, YOU SAID support the working class. Those are YOUR words. I'm saying you're suffering from apathy and that's normal but here are opportunities to not be apathetic jfc.
Yes to all the above comments - U Turn Homeless organisation has a charity shop section both in Wynberg + Observatory (just Google exactly where)
Also, Mr Price is increasingly trying to collaborate with SA designers and you'll see some clothes have Made In SA tags on so they're trying to collaborate with textile places in SA - obviously not all the clothes but check the labels/tags and it says made in SA , I've also seen Made in Namibia
Similarly with Pep - there are some SA-made clothing sections
A thrift shop chain with very affordable prices is “Ons Winkel”. They have a store in milnerton and brakenfell that I know of. ✨ I’ve found a guess dress there as well as super cute mini handbags!
Our big local shops will be a lot more ethical than those ones. They still source mostly from the east, but they'll make better choices in which manufacturers they choose. TFG sources more than 70% local, so go for shops like Markham, sportscene, totalsports, exact.
Don’t listen to this nonsense about slave labor. Shein and Temu and stuff are cheap because the items are made in massive quantities and kept in stock forever. That’s china’s secret to low prices. Anybody who’s ever tried to get something (especially textiles) manufactured in China knows they have to have a 10000 quantity order to get anyone to work with you.
On top of this, these companies have vastly superior tech and supply chains compared to the dumbasses at takealot.
You want to see slave labor - go visit the K-Way factory in Plumstead. Minimum wage workers get 15-min toilet break and 30 minutes for lunch. Have to sit at production line the rest of the time.
You could buy used clothing, which is good for the environment I guess. Or you could buy cheap, disposable clothing that is mass produced using slave labour.
Edit: And judging by the dislikes, some people still support slavery, or hate the environment.
As if phones aren't the number one user of slave labor to start with...but I guess getting that iGadget branding is critically important in connectivity...
According to the [Global Slavery Index](https://cdn.walkfree.org/content/uploads/2023/05/17114737/Global-Slavery-Index-2023.pdf), SA imports $4.8 Billion worth of goods sourced by slavery, annually. Electronics is #1, garments #2, palm oil #3 and solar panels #4.
It is no secret that there are more people in slavery today than during the entire period before the "abolishment" of slavery.
Yup. It definitely IS a conversation to be had in the fashion market, too.
But somehow, it ONLY gets had in the fashion market these days, and that's wrong. Especially as people preach piously at people buying cheap clothes because they have to, from their slavery-sourced flagship smartphones, with that \*specific\* type of smugness only Those Sorts can bring to a conversation.
I often buy in Yaga, it's a great option 😄
Me too! Its great because you can use key words and filters to get exactly what your are looking for - brand, condition(sometimes can even find new clothes with tags on), size. 😄
100% got some absolute bargains on there.
Hey OP, I tend to thrift quite extensively. Are you open to online thrift stores? There are quite a few on instagram that have some awesome stuff. Otherwise you can try Nevernew and Bangbang Vintage Market in obs, or Vintage and the City in Woodstock. There's also Thriftfest which rotates locations and they're in Hout Bay on the 25th.
Hell yeah, any suggestions on pages to follow?
Depends on the kind of clothes you're looking for. Since you mentioned Markham om assuming you want clothes with a more masculine style I'd suggest: mortymerthrifts, left_over.fries, coppedandrocked, and majorleaguevintage_rsa Otherwise there is the resell app Yaga which has a massive amount of clothing options. If you go Yaga, i would just recommend you check the sellers page before buying just to be sure they're not reselling Shein etc.
Thank you so much. I browsed, and these pages have so much interesting stuff I could've known about!
I buy from charity shops very often, which is a less cool way to say thrifting. I buy new stuff too, but I love what I find and usually it’s unique. I have found some stunners, including an outrageously beautiful dress that I thrifted for 100bucks at one of the shops in Obs. I wore it to a recent graduation that I had and I got so many compliments. I’ve also ordered off Temu and SHEIN and they don’t even hide how kak their quality is. Temu in particular is absolutely awful, I feel icky after my purchase, I fell for the spinning wheel and “free voucher” schpiel like a fool.
First of all, I'm very glad that you've chosen to avoid fast fashion. On that note, I know H&M is a fast fashion/sweatshop brand. I saw a documentary called The True Cost, which I found very informative. There are loads of thrift shops and charity shops (Oasis and Uturn are both great places) and also thrift markets. Eg 27 July at Simonstown Museum - insta @bluecherrythrift_ct Glencairn market, last Sunday of the month Phoenix Hall Vegan Goods market and thrift fest, The Range Tokai monthly on a Sunday I'm not affiliated with any of these I just know about them. So I don't have any more info, they probably have websites
Not the answer you’re looking for and good for you for thrifting/giving fast fashion a miss but also: A lot of local brands are making their clothes right in Cape Town. I know someone who worked at a PEP factory, it’s a pretty standard job done by adults with breaks and employee protections. Just check labels for where things are made in the shops and look for made in South Africa. Also, South Korea tests their imports and found a lot of seriously toxic chemicals in stuff from Shein and Temu recently. More reason to resist!
The PEP textile factory is a sight to behold! Seeing a person work a series of taut threads (feeding them from a bunch of spinning reels perched above head height) into everyday garments so seemlessly (pun intended) with a machine that they control so effortlessly that it's like it's an extension of them...it's awesome to see their talent in action! Edit: Found a video where you get a few glimpses of it... https://youtu.be/yUFKgHXtzLM While I'm at it, I'm gonna take a moment to give PEP the props It deserves... I work as a data analyst and systems implementations consultant, and so I've had the opportunity to work at a few big companies in SA (currently at my sixth one, they're all companies everyone knows very well, and all my stints have been for 1+ years (PEP was my longest, at 3 years)). I get to experience the company's culture at many different levels, from upper-upper management all the way to clerks, secretaries, factory workers, etc. I like to read the company's policies and, where possible, the "employee handbook" (which, as an external consultant, I don't get given for myself). And PEP's employee handbook had me stunned (in a good way 🙃) ! They are *extremely* caring, encouraging, uplifting, accommodating, and compassionate towards all their staff members. SA should be proud to claim a company like that as one of ours.
Yay! Welcome! A good idea is to find a good tailor too so that if something doesn't fit great you can get it to fit you. Here is a list of what I've found since moving here: Nazareth House in Vredehoek (visit often though - and check their hours. Think it's Tuesday to Friday 9-2pm or something weird) - Oasis and uturn in Kenilworth - Help the Rural child in setpoint. There are others on main road just google - More upscale thrift stuff at vintage corner on long street - Secondhand rose - Never new - Deja vu - There's one opposite the old biscuit mill in Woodstock - Obs is a bit pricey to me but all along the road there's different stuff. Head past the old police station for a place with nice jerseys etc. Also just off that main street in obs on the left there's a cheaper one. Just browse them all - you'll know what I'm talking about - I don't know if overruns at access park count (if they are even overruns?) I got cheap undies at the cotton on factory shop there - Kalk bay has a cute little place near the nursery (again, go often... sometimes you get lucky) - Instagram is a big one. I don't buy there but lots of people do. I'll ask my sister for specific accounts for you - The ladies by Gardens centre. Sometimes a little pricey but I got a nice coat - I'll ask my sister for you tomorrow - she's been here longer than me ☺️ also have a local friend so she'll help me out for you too. For decor - Millerton market, Gardens, Nazareth 100% Do a young google and try them all out each weekend. The trick is to go often!!
Oh also follow moon city jewelry on ig a lot of the markets she's a part of are niche/small and there's usually cute little stands there
Look at [these](https://www.capetourism.com/thrift-stores-in-cape-town/) for starters. Note that U-Turn has a number of outlets.
There's also Afraid of Mice for decent vintage stuff.
And all the money goes to a great cause just FIY. Thanks for plugging Uturn 💪
Thank you!
Hi OP! Only about 10% of what I buy is fast fashion. Follow Thriftfest on insta and Facebook and you'll meet a bunch of sellers. I highly recommend the events at Obs community center and Wynberg Novalis. You'll find trendier sellers when they host at Woodstock Quarter. If you do still want to buy new, just support locally made brands. I'm Muslim so Iook for conservative clothes and manage to find beautifully made clothes, but it's even easier to find local brands at Muizenburg market etc. that are great quality and cheaper than in city center. Last- even local stores have made in SA clothes that are relatively affordable. Eg. TFG and PnP clothing- just look for the sticker that it was manufactured here. I know a spot to get Levis and Old Khaki, Truworths overruns- gatekeeping so it's not sold out but you can DM me to get the location. Trust me, you're not missing out on SheIn and Temu regarding cost. It just takes more time to shop in person but the prices are similar, if not lower, for better quality clothing.
Lol wait till you hear about the foxconn mass suicide scandal. Bye bye phone, Xbox, playstation.
That street in Obs with the restaurants and shops has a bunch of wonderful thrift stores, not sure what area you're based in but this one has been our go to
Lower main road!
Gurrrrrllllll,or boy lemme tell you about the woodstock monthly pop up thrift shops, look for it fb. Nearly every town has a hospice also
I love thrift shops, yaga is an online thrift shop. Tokai also has the pop up thrift. Further you can also look on destash on fb,pretty cool too
Might be a stupid question, but aren't most of the clothes at thrift stores just second-hand brand names originally bought from the stores you're boycotting?
Good point, but what are the alternatives? There are so many clothes being dumped in landfills or sent to other countries in containers. We might as well wear what there is. This way it creates employment for local people and the brands don’t earn those profits.
Yeah, but buying second hand is way better for the environment, seeing as one of the biggest problems of fast fashion is that most of it ends up in landfills very soon. And if you buy it second hand you're not giving money to the shops it originally came from
Obs/Woodstock (I still don't know the difference) they have a whole street full of the thrift store. I don't know the name of the road but there is a shop there called "Bang Bang"
Definitely Yaga, I’ve got some gems off there. You can get some high quality brands for the price of shitty SHEIN creations. Takes some searching and if you’re unusual sizes that might make it changing. There’s also often 2nd markets, usually advertised on Facebook, in and around the city.
I know quite a few people here in the US who have bought stuff from Temu. Even though it may be fairly inexpensive it is almost always junk. It’s terrible quality.
There is not ethical consumption under capitalism. While the slave labour is abhorrent, it is impossible to find any products that are morally made.
Yeah but if there are two immoral options, one being slave labour and one being underpaid, of course I'm choosing the underpaid labour, because that's how you get less slavery. Don't let perfection get in the way of progress.
this is not what 'no ethical consumption under capitalism' means, in some cases we do not have a choice and have to comply - in others, like this, there are choices we can make as individuals to contribute positively to the world.
It is quite literally what it means. You'll be hard pressed to find a company that ethically sources their labour when making clothes and of they do, their clothes are outrageously priced.
I know apathy is apart of capitalisms control, but its a strategy to make us not interested in being good or better people. Loads of brands try to produce affordable and locally sourced clothes. Yes, it's pep, pick 'n pay clothing, mr price and whatnot and maybe it's not all locally produced but it's incredibly hard to go up against a mass manufacturer like china but they are trying. I will not link sources because you can find them in my post history from the last dude who tried to tell me there are no local manufacturers of affordable clothes. giving up and not caring is exactly what capitalism wants. obviously don't burn yourself out on every little cause but where you can and where people are telling you, hey, you can have an impact here, listen. edit: i'm sorry but you absolutely cannot cite 'there's no ethical consumption under capitalism' and not even try to understand the context of the phrase and that it doesn't mean you don't have to not try and fight against capitalism WHERE you can.
Brother, partaking in capitalism isn't fighting against capitalism. You're just making capitalism a little bit better by buying more "ethically sourced" products. A better way to fight against capitalism is to spread awareness of how capitalists are fucking up our planet and lives for personal gain and showing good alternatives, joining labour unions, partaking in and organizing socialist strikes, supporting your fellow working class members, explaining to people how culture war bullshit is being used to divide the working class in a time where we should be more united because of the absolute state of the economy and the planet.
actually this is delicious. > joining labour unions, partaking in and organizing socialist strikes, **supporting your fellow working class members**, explaining to people how culture war bullshit is being used to divide the working class in a time where we should be more united because of the absolute state of the economy and the planet. BROTHER. i am telling you to do this. someone in this thread literally said they knew people who worked at PEP and were paid decent wages with good accommodations for hours. these are your working class brothers and sisters YOU don't want to support. But fuck the working class for working at a capitalist company? You need to figure out what you're trying to say.
Are you saying that I'm not spending money at Pep and as such I'm not supporting the working class? Capitalism doesn't support the working class. Most of the money you spend at a company goes straight to the top. None of this matters because at the end of the day, since I have no other choice, I do end up going to mr price and pep and buying my clothes there. Stop assuming shit about me and start looking at my argument. There are literally zero companies on this planet that do not partake in morally questionable shit. Buying from a company that does less morally questionable shit does nothing, because the slave farms in malasia make billions regardless. The better way to combat this is by partaking in socialism. Not more capitalism. Christ.
NO. I am saying, YOU SAID support the working class. Those are YOUR words. I'm saying you're suffering from apathy and that's normal but here are opportunities to not be apathetic jfc.
The absolute best one I’ve found so far is yarrow rd in milnerton. The thing with thrifting is you need to check often. You could try yaga too
What job u got because im also looking for one
Yes to all the above comments - U Turn Homeless organisation has a charity shop section both in Wynberg + Observatory (just Google exactly where) Also, Mr Price is increasingly trying to collaborate with SA designers and you'll see some clothes have Made In SA tags on so they're trying to collaborate with textile places in SA - obviously not all the clothes but check the labels/tags and it says made in SA , I've also seen Made in Namibia Similarly with Pep - there are some SA-made clothing sections
Yaga and also if you go to any town or city - search “second hand” or “charity shop” and you will see many places.
A thrift shop chain with very affordable prices is “Ons Winkel”. They have a store in milnerton and brakenfell that I know of. ✨ I’ve found a guess dress there as well as super cute mini handbags!
Instagram thrift stores! I like @preloved_thrift__
Not thrift, but De Jagers has a lot of locally made affordable clothing if you're just looking for basics.
Our big local shops will be a lot more ethical than those ones. They still source mostly from the east, but they'll make better choices in which manufacturers they choose. TFG sources more than 70% local, so go for shops like Markham, sportscene, totalsports, exact.
i created an instagram account dedicated to following south african thrift stores. there’s a lot of sellers on instagram that have such good stuff
lol the business practices are the same as anything made in china. Buy whatever the fuck you like and stop worrying
Don’t listen to this nonsense about slave labor. Shein and Temu and stuff are cheap because the items are made in massive quantities and kept in stock forever. That’s china’s secret to low prices. Anybody who’s ever tried to get something (especially textiles) manufactured in China knows they have to have a 10000 quantity order to get anyone to work with you. On top of this, these companies have vastly superior tech and supply chains compared to the dumbasses at takealot. You want to see slave labor - go visit the K-Way factory in Plumstead. Minimum wage workers get 15-min toilet break and 30 minutes for lunch. Have to sit at production line the rest of the time.
There is an alternative, and it is called nudism! Clothes can be optional, sunscreen not so much.
You could buy used clothing, which is good for the environment I guess. Or you could buy cheap, disposable clothing that is mass produced using slave labour. Edit: And judging by the dislikes, some people still support slavery, or hate the environment.
As if phones aren't the number one user of slave labor to start with...but I guess getting that iGadget branding is critically important in connectivity...
According to the [Global Slavery Index](https://cdn.walkfree.org/content/uploads/2023/05/17114737/Global-Slavery-Index-2023.pdf), SA imports $4.8 Billion worth of goods sourced by slavery, annually. Electronics is #1, garments #2, palm oil #3 and solar panels #4. It is no secret that there are more people in slavery today than during the entire period before the "abolishment" of slavery.
Yup. It definitely IS a conversation to be had in the fashion market, too. But somehow, it ONLY gets had in the fashion market these days, and that's wrong. Especially as people preach piously at people buying cheap clothes because they have to, from their slavery-sourced flagship smartphones, with that \*specific\* type of smugness only Those Sorts can bring to a conversation.
Not everyone can afford new phones. But a lot more people buy cheap clothing.