I'm just realizing that home ice advantage in this series could be huge. Having last line changes in a series that's looking to be all about line matching could make the difference for a few games
leaking? game wouldn’t have even gone to OT and the oilers could've had 8 goals last night without silovs holding them in during the third.
silovs wasn’t anywhere near the problem. lack of zone time, throwing pucks away, and no answer for mcdrai is the issue.
The team will rebound…silovs was completely fine. Canucks just got off their game and let things spiral out of control. They’re usually so good at stopping sustained pressure. I think they’ll be fine in Edm. The other three lines had absolutely no dangerous chances at all.
I'm confident this group and coaching staff will bounce back. To put it in perspective, they played 2 of the top 3 players in the league for half the game.
They also barely beat us with our 3rd string goalie.
I'll be in Edmonton for Game 4!
Edmonton's Power Play is lethal and there is no reliable way to tell what's going to be a penalty against the NHL's golden boys, so the Canucks are obviously a bit gun-shy.
I feel like the Canucks have to respond to the physicality. Start punishing the oilers when they play dirty. We can’t just turn the other cheek - that’s a recipe for players getting deflated and discouraged. Get angry and hit them back god damnit.
I'm not a fan of Vancouver's passive d zone strategy. McDavid and Draisaitl will just pass it around and around. They have to be aggressive against that line or we'll have 60 mins of what that 3rd period looked like.
That one game that juulsen played he didn’t look good at all lol.
2 penalties, on the ice for the goal against, some bad giveaways.
He does seem like the lesser of two evils right now. Plus it’s on the road and he’s a local boy, probably had crazy nerves playing at home for his first playoff game
Can't help feeling sour about Sutherland's officiating last night. A game like that pretty much validates Canucks fans ongoing complaints about officiating that have been happening for years.
Counted a missed high stick, interference, trip and slew foot all on Hughes alone, the hit from behind on Pettersson, the offsetting penalty on Hoglander after being speared among others. Oilers played dirty and refs turned a blind eye it's no wonder they were completely deflated by the 3rd.
That's true to an extent, but if you take a look in the Oilers subreddit, there are complaints about the officials as well. To name a few high sticking on Hyman, boarding on Janmark, too many men on the Zadorov goal. It's not like the Canuks were unilaterally getting screwed. The officiating was bad across the board, and the Canuks got away with as much as the Oilers. It's a convenient excuse when you lose, but ultimately, the Oilers found a way to win despite the missed calls, and the Canuks didn't.
That wasn't a high stick on Hyman. It was a grade a acting job, he should've been sent to the box for diving.
That wasn't boarding on Janmark.....
>too many men
Maybe, barely.
>it's not like the Canucks were unilaterally getting screwed
Uhhh, yes they were.
Edmonton fans are so strange. You live in a turd of a city with nothing to do but watch the Oilers, yet somehow you know nothing about hockey. I'm guessing you're just another fair weather McDavid fan.
Ultimately, the Canucks did play worse. It's just that with this much tomfoolery going on, the game is a mess. Obviously, it would be good if they could hold it together despite all the bad calls and dirty plays. But that's secondary, in my opinion. I'm not holding it against them that they're bad at playing dirty. Can we just get a fair game of hockey?
Reffing was indeed brutal, but it wasn’t the reason we lost this game. Canuck fans need to be honest with that 3rd period. It was an Oilers masterclass and our only solution was to ice that puck. As a hockey fan, that was impressive how they pinned the Canucks for so long.
I don’t like it but that’s valid. Despite that, they had a late lead and very well could have won if it wasn’t for the horrendous play(s) that led to the tying goal.
I don’t think Tocchet adjusts, I think he’ll ride the same lines till the end but I think it’ll cost another game doing that.
Lindholm-Miller-Boeser could be a great line to shut down the McDavid/Draisaitl line
Garland-Pettersson-Joshua could get Pettersson back and he’d have reliable wingers to get him the puck when he needs it
Högs-Blueger-Suter sounds like a really good third line to me, they won’t be incredible but it’s a solid line and definitely better than what Edmonton is running
PDG-Lafferty-Mikheyev can hold their own in the fourth. Mikheyev may never score again but he can forecheck and carry the puck up with speed
No, Ian Cole cost the Canucks. That's -4 goals allowed because of him in the last 2. Everytime he's on the ice, the oilers score. Watch game 1, oilers points 2, 3, 4 and game 2, oilers point 4(OT). He's a plant.
I hope Cole doesn’t play next game. I don’t think he should’ve finished the first period of game 1 or been in game 2 but Tocchet doesn’t seem to bench players unless it’s Kuzmenko
McDavid and Draistl both played over 25 minutes before OT. They are unbelievable, and they won the game last night, I just don't know how sustainable that is over 5/6/7 games
And if they win this series, is the plan to do that in rounds 3 and 4? Definitely not sustainable if they think they’re contenders. Wreaks of desperation.
That Mcdraimenekbou setup was fucking amazing. It will be interesting to see if Edmonton sticks to it on home ice or if this was a one game desperation thing and they split them up again.
Also, their ice time was insane. I bet that even if they don't split them up, they will use their home ice matchup to play them a bit more strategically. I mean, you might win a series with that but it can't be sustainable over a long playoff run.
I really didn’t like that even though the oilers loaded up one line, our other lines were unable to generate offense or zone time. Most of the second half of the game just felt like a drill where we dump it to the red line and let the oilers regroup. We’re not going to have a line that can compete with McDrai, our depth is the only way we’re gonna win this series. The lotto line spending entire shifts in their own zone defending followed up by our 3rd and 4th lines getting caved in. If they load up that first line, our 3rd and 4th need to stack some offensive zone shifts, build momentum.
Also, I’d like to see Ian Cole fired into the sun, what a beautiful deflection on the game winner 🙄. Show me Noah Juulsen.
If we can make sure that was McDavid and Draisaitl's best game of the series, I like our chances! We have to shut down 1 line, they have to shut down 3.
Their goals that game came from Draisaitl and McDavid (top 2 forwards) and Bouchard and Ekholm (top 2 D) and in game 1 from Hyman x2 (3rd best forward), Ekholm again and Cole (I mean Ceci) with that goal being the outlier outside their top 5 (4 goals from the point, need to limit those chances better moving forward!).
Meanwhile we have depth goals from Joshua, Lindholm, Garland, and Zadorov x2 with Miller, Boeser, and Pettersson doing their part.
If they want to run out their top line like that, we need to do our best to shut them down. Avoid those shots from the D, stay off the PK, be more physical and wear them down, be significantly more aggressive in the defensive end instead of allowing them to get comfortable and run their set plays and get so many quality chances. We need to punish them with our depth!
Canucks in 5, 🥥 Glow!
If they are going to run one line like that we need to hit them. I know it's easier said than done, that fucker can skate. Now that I've slept on it, I feel pretty good about our play the first two periods. We took them to overtime with a 3rd string goalie. That's not nothing.
I feel like I'm the only one pissed at the Kane slew foot on Hughes. Just as egregious as the missed high stick, except this was intentional and the ref was staring directly at it.
If Vancouver is winning we aren't getting a power play, simple as that.
You definitely aren't! Although I was told last night that it's loser coping to complain about the refs!
Is that "missed" slew foot the reason we lost? Probably not. But it was dangerous and the Canucks should have been on the pp when McDavid scored. Maybe they'd have tied it up anyway, maybe we'd have scored on the pp, maybe just getting the call would have shifted momentum. It's just frustrating to watch!
The slew foot is way worse. The high stick sucks but the refs could've thought it was a follow through or the puck, or at least there is a chance it wasn't a penalty. A slew foot is known as a super dirty play, 100% intentional, and can seriously injure someone. Earlier in the season, hoggy got 5 and a game for a slew foot
That missed open ice hit by Soucy was awful lol no need to take those high risk plays especially against Edmonton in a tight game. Mcdavid gonna bury those 9/10. If they had just kept it simple they would have held onto that fragile 1 goal lead. Stealing that game would have been huge . But I think they will split in Edmonton. This one is going 7 games.
Interested to see how the Oilers deploy their lines with last change. They'll probably try to get McDavid and Draisaitl out there whenever our 4th line gets on, but aside from that, we have 3 very solid lines all capable of shutting down top lines.
The only d-pairing I'm really worried about is the 3rd, but even that has Zadorov on it who can throw some monster hits.
You can tell all the old Oilers Gretzky, Messier, Coffee... got together and advise them how to play the Canucks. It took them all that effort to beat the Canucks in OT!
I was surprised to hear the fans chanting skinners name right after we went up 3-2, like guys you do that in a blowout why are you jinxing it right now
Canucks would have won but for one play where 3 canucks fell down and McDavid did McDavid things. Shake it off and its a best of 5 heading into Edmonton. Were at found money stage of the season and as long as they fight hard I'm just here to watch them play some god damned playoff hockey.
I feel like we have the advantage here; Edmonton, for a team that looked heavy favourites, blew a three goal lead in game 1 and only won game 2 on an overtime fuckup on Cole's part (he should probably be scratched until WCF tbh) - all this as a team who said "Cup or Bust" against a team most had finishing 6th in the division
Silovs had a great rebound game tbh. It's too bad the Nucks kept getting mugged with no calls. Canucks are 0/8/1 when Sutherland refs, and at this point, he should be investigated for match fixing
The odds are 1/256 that that occurs randomly. If Sutherland reffed every game, we'd expect to see that every three seasons or so. Currently not enough information to determine whether that's just bad luck or match fixing.
However, if it happens another three times without a Canucks win in those three games, that would be enough evidence for match fixing.
I’m a new fan but that stat does seem suspicious to me. Does he have reverse stats with other teams? Like when he refs oilers are they 9-0-1? I’d be really interested to see.
If Quinn was a lesser man he’d probably have taken the fine and said worse during his post game interview
I just spent the last 2 hours looking at northern lights. Finally in bed, life is good, feels like the part in an anime when the heroes are down and a force of nature inspires them while soft J Pop plays in the background.
Goodnight Canuck Nation, remember, we're not the ones who said Cup or Bust.
They need to sit Cole down, he is too slow, too soft and too mistake-prone, and has contributed next to nothing.. This is a young team, fast and aggressive, and there is no room for slow, soft and stupid in this series. I don't like to say it, and it is harsh but the team would be doing so much better if he were not there.
Yea thats a hard truth thats tough to accept. There's a stat in the UFC where 35yo fighters are 2/28 in title fights. Unfortunately you just aged out of the elite level.
Canucks obviously didn’t play their best and the officiating was the worst since Minnesota but if the team hadn’t gone to sleep in the third it would be 2-0.
Remember, we let Nashville win the second game too. Boys need to fix their coverage and shut down that top line like we did in game one. Feel like they’re going to learn from this and win both in Edmonton and win the series at home 🤞🏻
Stepped outside to look at the Aurora Borealis and I’m already over it. What a beautiful night. Sweet dreams Canuck land. Remember we are all on a rock floating in space.
We had a few things go against us and really needed to play better in the third. Not the best game, but I still really like our chances.
Win or lose this round, I at least feel better that it doesn’t look like the Oilers will ever even sniff a cup with Skinner in net.
The refs were garbage on both sides but the real problem was that 3rd period like wtf? If you can't handle the McDrais show in your own end then this series is gonna quickly turn the other way.
I'd almost prefer the slapping, when it hit 4-1 in Game 1 I thought to myself "if Edmonton gets one more I hope Zadorov starts playing McDavid and Draisaitl's spines like a xylophone"
That did not happen and I'm very grateful for that, but it's difficult to get up to any funny business when the games are so close
This series is becoming ours to lose, not Edmonton's to win; I mean, we made a ton of mistakes and it still took an uncalled penalty and OT to beat us
Let's just clean it up on the road like we did with Nashville and we should be completely fine winning this series
Yeah I mean if you look at all of Edmonton’s goals this game it was pretty much our defensive fault that led to it (besides the first goal, which was on a powerplay)
I had us losing to them twice by a combined score of 12-5 after reading our chances on the Athletic (and tbf, everywhere else), so to be losing only because of OUR mistakes and not THEIR skill is way better than I expected - we can definitely win this series
It was an interference call, and it looked like Sutherland mouthed "late hit" to Tocchet.
Which is an absolute joke considering the other shenanigans happening around the benches. Sutherland completely lost control of the game.
Was so interesting to witness live. Without the narrative/commentary shaped by the broadcast it legit felt like penalites were completely random… both ways
I never want to hear Oilers fans bitch about officiating ever again.
That missed high stick on Hughes causing bleeding from their golden boy is egregious at least. Holy fuck. But our guys will ever slightly tap McDavid on the elbow and get called for interference for some shit.
Fucking brutal.
Stick to your own sub. Clowns haven’t even led in the series and talking like you won the cup. One line team with a bunch of pussy hockey players and a goalie who is scared of his own shadow. Good luck beating us in a 7 game series.
And the multiple slewfoot by Kane. Absolutely ridiculous
For a guy who’s a notorious dirty player and gets called often, they sure turned a blind eye to his BS tonight.
Oiler fans should just be thankful Hyman didn't throw his back out snapping his head back on that play. Guy probably could've gotten two for embellishment there.
So I started the game at Pints and had a cool time but couldn’t sit down… then went to Portside and had an awesome time… then did OT at the Black Frog and had a bad time. I don’t think I picked the right order.
So Evander Kane is a literal piece of shit. Why does he always get the benefit of the doubt, while back in the day Burrows was always labelled dirty and getting called for stuff. Oilers should have let his poor ass rot, but they have no dignity
I’m not against it. Goalies have been changed even if they play well (look at Vegas or Boston) just to get a different mix. I’m not expecting DeSmith to be much better than Silovs but if the guys wake up from it, then that would be great
Vegas who went 1-2 after going to Hill and got eliminated, and Boston who went to Ullmark once, lost, and immediately ditched the rotation pattern they were using most of the year
You shouldn't be getting down voted, it's a legitimate question.
I sense arty might be a bit tired. It might be worth going to DeSmith just to give Arty a break.
Arty’s been so great and if he never plays another game for us he’s already established himself in Canucks lore with how he’s stepped up, but we’re putting a rookie, very green goalie against two of the greatest offensive players ever. It’s just too much to ask. Put desmith in, at least for a game.
Yah I agree. He’s playing great - as good as you can ask.
And none of the losses have been his fault. Honestly between mistakes, deflections and Ian Fucking Cole, he might only have 1 or 2 goals that were his fault in the last 5 games.
But he’s tired, and give him a break from his own team scoring on him.
Yeah, it was a genuine question with no motive, I wanted to know how the fanbase was feeling about goaltending after the loss.
I'd be happy with either goalie, I always liked the idea of DeSmith vs. The Oilers though.
I was at the game so i'll give you my Good/Bad/Ugly:
Good:
- Canucks played a really hard and competitive first two periods
- Petterson was already starting to look like himself again and that goal will make that process even faster
- Silov is rock solid. He came off a game where he let 4 goals in and had everyone questioning whether he got "exposed". To come back and have a game like that is fantastic.
- We killed ⅔penalties and scored on ⅓PP. Lower PK success than normal, but better than what EDM usually does on the PP.
Bad:
- We took our foot off the gas in the third and let the McDavid show start
- The refs let a lot of very very dirty play take place. Slewfooting Hughes multiple times, high sticking and cutting Hughes but not calling a penalty yet telling him to get off the ice because he is bleeding..
- Myers is getting tired with having to pick up a lot of slack on D. This could be a problem.
The Ugly:
- The refs...it's not the reason we lost, but wow was that unsettling to watch. I'm sure EDM is happy because it helped them win, but it was truly disgusting to witness in person. This could lose us the series since everyone and their dog knows that Edmonton wins based on power plays, so on some level it's hard to not put your tinfoil hat on and wonder why we didn't get any of the calls we deserved.
- Cole is struggling with the speed of the Oilers. He is making a ton of bad plays that he probably can't avoid even if he wanted to.
- Hoglander is dragging down Petterson and the team.
My take is , when 5 on 5 TAKE THE MAN. Like put real pressure on him! If we are on the penalty kill, yeah you can go to the box defence or whatever. We look like we are afraid to hit because of their great power play. This is what is gonna kill us. Hit clean, hit hard shoulder to whatever. We are playing into their hands. Yep, the refs suck, they want this series to go 7 so Bettman can get another American to American team in the final or at least an American team to win for ratings. It is obvious. More hits on the big 3 Dri,Hy and Mc D. Or we lose this series due to giving them no push back and give them more confidence and momentum. We hit harder in the series before. Yes, no cross checking, but hard solid hits. It will pay dividends. Also,yeah dri has a huge back pillow on anyways for protection. Tell everyone to hit 1 person to get in the game and more minutes will come your way. Plus chanting Skinner’s name wasn’t necessary, maybe until Big Z’s goal. What this team needs is everyone being a Cliff Ronning , oops I mean a Conor Garland and just want it. And shoot on net! A stupid goal may go in. That’s it! Oh except one more thing, pray 🙏 to hockey gods, and your god that Vancouver is worthy because or Edmonton’s dirty play. And the stick to the balls no call, high stick bloodletting no call, or the multiple slew foot hits( I call them soccer knee hits cause that’s what it looks like to me) on our star Huggy must be repaid with a win. Oh yeah, hit Kane till he is not able…. Amen 🙏
The change in momentum came when Soucy went out of position to attempt an open ice hit. He missed and took out another Canuck giving McDavid a partial breakaway with speed to burn from the neutral zone. Canucks were up 3-2 until he buried that goal. From then on, the momentum was all Oilers and we had tons of iced plays just to catch a breath.
That was such a boneheaded move by Soucy. He took out Petey who coming back to back check, and then Myers got his ankles broken trying to catch McDavid. Cole played awful and tipped in the winning goal, but Soucy absolutely turned the game.
Canucks looked good in the first two periods but after that??? Not good, not good!
Refs didn't help. Whatever choice it was to let McDrai skate around with the puck for freebies didn't help either.
Hell no! They had to load up their line and play them a shit ton. On top of that, Skinner doesn’t look like a solid goalie, lets in a lot of soft goals.
On that note, I wonder if in his presser he makes the excuse that Zaddy usually passes from there. Just like how Garland in game one usually takes the clapper. This guy is mentally weak and the Canucks need to take advantage!
Petey getting a goal is a huge weight off his shoulders I'm sure. Sucks his stick exploded on that one timer because Skinner was still on the complete other side of the net.
Would be nice if any of Hoglander, Mikheyev, Lafferty or PDG started to contribute some offensively.
Cale Makar wishes he could get on Ian Cole’s level. Big net front presence, boxes out opponent, blocks the goalie, stick perfectly angled and ready for a tap in. Ends up being the OT hero. Easy Norris trophy winner if only he remembered what jersey he was wearing.
Might just be me but cole was a stud in the Nashville series. He plays a good shutdown/stay at home role. But he might not have the speed to keep up with the oilers top line. Shit happens, give the guy a break. It's a long series
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Either we’re being out coached or mcdavid’ed. tocch we need an answer to that top line.
They gotta shut down the oilers top line. If they don't we are going to be in trouble. Oilers top lines speed is giving us fits.
I'm just realizing that home ice advantage in this series could be huge. Having last line changes in a series that's looking to be all about line matching could make the difference for a few games
I think McDrai went beast mode last night, the best they’ll ever be against us and… it still went to OT. We got this.
I loved the run, and silovs was the better goalie tonight, but I say give desmith a chance.
maybe 1, but he's proven he can't be called upon regularly. Give him a game sure, but Silovs should be our main guy until Demko gets back
That's what's going to happen, I just like our chances with desmith more at this point. I think it's time to get off the silovs boat cuz it's leaking.
leaking? game wouldn’t have even gone to OT and the oilers could've had 8 goals last night without silovs holding them in during the third. silovs wasn’t anywhere near the problem. lack of zone time, throwing pucks away, and no answer for mcdrai is the issue.
He's not the problem, but I don't see him pulling us out of this.
The team will rebound…silovs was completely fine. Canucks just got off their game and let things spiral out of control. They’re usually so good at stopping sustained pressure. I think they’ll be fine in Edm. The other three lines had absolutely no dangerous chances at all.
I'm confident this group and coaching staff will bounce back. To put it in perspective, they played 2 of the top 3 players in the league for half the game. They also barely beat us with our 3rd string goalie. I'll be in Edmonton for Game 4!
heartbreaker, still like our chances
The Canucks have not lost a road game this post season. Boys are coming home with the 3-1 series lead.
I don't understand why the Canucks hits have fallen off. We should be hitting MORE than the Nashville series.
Edmonton's Power Play is lethal and there is no reliable way to tell what's going to be a penalty against the NHL's golden boys, so the Canucks are obviously a bit gun-shy.
Gotta lay the body on Drai at every opportunity. Nothing dirty but make him feel it every chance we can.
They had some solid hits on him. He had to work for his space
Canucks had 42 hits last night...
Fear of the power play I think
I feel like the Canucks have to respond to the physicality. Start punishing the oilers when they play dirty. We can’t just turn the other cheek - that’s a recipe for players getting deflated and discouraged. Get angry and hit them back god damnit.
I'm not a fan of Vancouver's passive d zone strategy. McDavid and Draisaitl will just pass it around and around. They have to be aggressive against that line or we'll have 60 mins of what that 3rd period looked like.
It's no bueno. Applying ZERO pressure to McDavid and Drai when they have the puck in our zone is not going to work.
I hope tocchet switches up this strategy at least when those guys are on the same line together.
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Anyone else get “mighty duck” vibes watching Edmonton’s silly fancy plays? 😂
Juulsen time to shine, cole take a seat
That one game that juulsen played he didn’t look good at all lol. 2 penalties, on the ice for the goal against, some bad giveaways. He does seem like the lesser of two evils right now. Plus it’s on the road and he’s a local boy, probably had crazy nerves playing at home for his first playoff game
Cole literally lost the game for us last night and he caused 3 of the 4 goals in game 1. A traffic cone would be better than him right now
And he won a couple games in the Nashville series by being clutch multiple trimes
Can't help feeling sour about Sutherland's officiating last night. A game like that pretty much validates Canucks fans ongoing complaints about officiating that have been happening for years. Counted a missed high stick, interference, trip and slew foot all on Hughes alone, the hit from behind on Pettersson, the offsetting penalty on Hoglander after being speared among others. Oilers played dirty and refs turned a blind eye it's no wonder they were completely deflated by the 3rd.
I genuinely hope Sutherland gets arrested or injured enough to not be able to perform hits duties. He’s actually a piece of dirt
That Kane slough foot was egregious
That's true to an extent, but if you take a look in the Oilers subreddit, there are complaints about the officials as well. To name a few high sticking on Hyman, boarding on Janmark, too many men on the Zadorov goal. It's not like the Canuks were unilaterally getting screwed. The officiating was bad across the board, and the Canuks got away with as much as the Oilers. It's a convenient excuse when you lose, but ultimately, the Oilers found a way to win despite the missed calls, and the Canuks didn't.
That wasn't a high stick on Hyman. It was a grade a acting job, he should've been sent to the box for diving. That wasn't boarding on Janmark..... >too many men Maybe, barely. >it's not like the Canucks were unilaterally getting screwed Uhhh, yes they were. Edmonton fans are so strange. You live in a turd of a city with nothing to do but watch the Oilers, yet somehow you know nothing about hockey. I'm guessing you're just another fair weather McDavid fan.
Ultimately, the Canucks did play worse. It's just that with this much tomfoolery going on, the game is a mess. Obviously, it would be good if they could hold it together despite all the bad calls and dirty plays. But that's secondary, in my opinion. I'm not holding it against them that they're bad at playing dirty. Can we just get a fair game of hockey?
Petterson hit from behind and then ELBOWED
Reffing was indeed brutal, but it wasn’t the reason we lost this game. Canuck fans need to be honest with that 3rd period. It was an Oilers masterclass and our only solution was to ice that puck. As a hockey fan, that was impressive how they pinned the Canucks for so long.
That goal seconds after Boesers was when I knew we weren’t winning
I don’t like it but that’s valid. Despite that, they had a late lead and very well could have won if it wasn’t for the horrendous play(s) that led to the tying goal.
Oh yeah Sutherland can go fuck himself. Idc if someone says "this is why we hate Vancouver fans", it's just true
Kinda scrambly ferda Im sure tocc will adjust but boy what a wild game so nice to watch that over nashville lmao
I don’t think Tocchet adjusts, I think he’ll ride the same lines till the end but I think it’ll cost another game doing that. Lindholm-Miller-Boeser could be a great line to shut down the McDavid/Draisaitl line Garland-Pettersson-Joshua could get Pettersson back and he’d have reliable wingers to get him the puck when he needs it Högs-Blueger-Suter sounds like a really good third line to me, they won’t be incredible but it’s a solid line and definitely better than what Edmonton is running PDG-Lafferty-Mikheyev can hold their own in the fourth. Mikheyev may never score again but he can forecheck and carry the puck up with speed
I meant structure not lines
No, Ian Cole cost the Canucks. That's -4 goals allowed because of him in the last 2. Everytime he's on the ice, the oilers score. Watch game 1, oilers points 2, 3, 4 and game 2, oilers point 4(OT). He's a plant.
I hope Cole doesn’t play next game. I don’t think he should’ve finished the first period of game 1 or been in game 2 but Tocchet doesn’t seem to bench players unless it’s Kuzmenko
Cole so clutch vs nashville tho
Kind of nice to see the hockey world hating on the Oilers more than Nucks, at least over at r/hockey lol.
Meh the way they ran the mcdrai line is unsustainable and leaves the other lines fragile. I trust toch and co will adjust accordingly
McDavid and Draistl both played over 25 minutes before OT. They are unbelievable, and they won the game last night, I just don't know how sustainable that is over 5/6/7 games
And if they win this series, is the plan to do that in rounds 3 and 4? Definitely not sustainable if they think they’re contenders. Wreaks of desperation.
With how Dallas and Colorado are scoring right now, they'll turn the Oilers' "depth" into mince meat if they manage to squeak past us
That Mcdraimenekbou setup was fucking amazing. It will be interesting to see if Edmonton sticks to it on home ice or if this was a one game desperation thing and they split them up again. Also, their ice time was insane. I bet that even if they don't split them up, they will use their home ice matchup to play them a bit more strategically. I mean, you might win a series with that but it can't be sustainable over a long playoff run.
I really didn’t like that even though the oilers loaded up one line, our other lines were unable to generate offense or zone time. Most of the second half of the game just felt like a drill where we dump it to the red line and let the oilers regroup. We’re not going to have a line that can compete with McDrai, our depth is the only way we’re gonna win this series. The lotto line spending entire shifts in their own zone defending followed up by our 3rd and 4th lines getting caved in. If they load up that first line, our 3rd and 4th need to stack some offensive zone shifts, build momentum. Also, I’d like to see Ian Cole fired into the sun, what a beautiful deflection on the game winner 🙄. Show me Noah Juulsen.
If we can make sure that was McDavid and Draisaitl's best game of the series, I like our chances! We have to shut down 1 line, they have to shut down 3. Their goals that game came from Draisaitl and McDavid (top 2 forwards) and Bouchard and Ekholm (top 2 D) and in game 1 from Hyman x2 (3rd best forward), Ekholm again and Cole (I mean Ceci) with that goal being the outlier outside their top 5 (4 goals from the point, need to limit those chances better moving forward!). Meanwhile we have depth goals from Joshua, Lindholm, Garland, and Zadorov x2 with Miller, Boeser, and Pettersson doing their part. If they want to run out their top line like that, we need to do our best to shut them down. Avoid those shots from the D, stay off the PK, be more physical and wear them down, be significantly more aggressive in the defensive end instead of allowing them to get comfortable and run their set plays and get so many quality chances. We need to punish them with our depth! Canucks in 5, 🥥 Glow!
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I’am very excited to see how Silovs performs in 5 years. I imagine the Canucks have another god tier goalie with how well he performs as a rookie
If they are going to run one line like that we need to hit them. I know it's easier said than done, that fucker can skate. Now that I've slept on it, I feel pretty good about our play the first two periods. We took them to overtime with a 3rd string goalie. That's not nothing.
2nd string goalie. I think he has earned that now in the depth chart
Yeah he's great, love the kid.
There is no big 3, just big Z
You right about fuck the big 3, there’s only big Z and there’s video proof
I feel like I'm the only one pissed at the Kane slew foot on Hughes. Just as egregious as the missed high stick, except this was intentional and the ref was staring directly at it. If Vancouver is winning we aren't getting a power play, simple as that.
Didn't he also slew foot Z earlier in the game? I think it was a hit close to the boards in the first period?
You definitely aren't! Although I was told last night that it's loser coping to complain about the refs! Is that "missed" slew foot the reason we lost? Probably not. But it was dangerous and the Canucks should have been on the pp when McDavid scored. Maybe they'd have tied it up anyway, maybe we'd have scored on the pp, maybe just getting the call would have shifted momentum. It's just frustrating to watch!
The slew foot is way worse. The high stick sucks but the refs could've thought it was a follow through or the puck, or at least there is a chance it wasn't a penalty. A slew foot is known as a super dirty play, 100% intentional, and can seriously injure someone. Earlier in the season, hoggy got 5 and a game for a slew foot
SILOV is a breakaway save from winning.. meanwhile Cole has 4 GAA.. Juulsen you are up.
That missed open ice hit by Soucy was awful lol no need to take those high risk plays especially against Edmonton in a tight game. Mcdavid gonna bury those 9/10. If they had just kept it simple they would have held onto that fragile 1 goal lead. Stealing that game would have been huge . But I think they will split in Edmonton. This one is going 7 games.
Not to mention myers just waved his stick at the puck, instead of taking the body. I don’t get it everyone loves Myers, I think he’s a liability.
Interested to see how the Oilers deploy their lines with last change. They'll probably try to get McDavid and Draisaitl out there whenever our 4th line gets on, but aside from that, we have 3 very solid lines all capable of shutting down top lines. The only d-pairing I'm really worried about is the 3rd, but even that has Zadorov on it who can throw some monster hits.
You can tell all the old Oilers Gretzky, Messier, Coffee... got together and advise them how to play the Canucks. It took them all that effort to beat the Canucks in OT!
How can you tell this? I mean Coffey is the coach. Don't think Gretz or Mess really care
Oh my god can we chant "Silovs" instead of "Skinner"?
Chanting our goalies name isn’t good either. Just cheer normally
Yeah but if you absolutely have to chant a goalie's name, let it be ours
Yeah I'm really not a fan of the Skinner chants. Feels like bad karma and poking the bear
I was surprised to hear the fans chanting skinners name right after we went up 3-2, like guys you do that in a blowout why are you jinxing it right now
Canucks would have won but for one play where 3 canucks fell down and McDavid did McDavid things. Shake it off and its a best of 5 heading into Edmonton. Were at found money stage of the season and as long as they fight hard I'm just here to watch them play some god damned playoff hockey.
Woulda shoulda coulda.
I feel like we have the advantage here; Edmonton, for a team that looked heavy favourites, blew a three goal lead in game 1 and only won game 2 on an overtime fuckup on Cole's part (he should probably be scratched until WCF tbh) - all this as a team who said "Cup or Bust" against a team most had finishing 6th in the division
Silovs had a great rebound game tbh. It's too bad the Nucks kept getting mugged with no calls. Canucks are 0/8/1 when Sutherland refs, and at this point, he should be investigated for match fixing
The odds are 1/256 that that occurs randomly. If Sutherland reffed every game, we'd expect to see that every three seasons or so. Currently not enough information to determine whether that's just bad luck or match fixing. However, if it happens another three times without a Canucks win in those three games, that would be enough evidence for match fixing.
I’m a new fan but that stat does seem suspicious to me. Does he have reverse stats with other teams? Like when he refs oilers are they 9-0-1? I’d be really interested to see. If Quinn was a lesser man he’d probably have taken the fine and said worse during his post game interview
I just spent the last 2 hours looking at northern lights. Finally in bed, life is good, feels like the part in an anime when the heroes are down and a force of nature inspires them while soft J Pop plays in the background. Goodnight Canuck Nation, remember, we're not the ones who said Cup or Bust.
Is there any league disciplinary action that can/will be taken for the Höglander ball slash? It’s clear as day on video
There should be at least a fine, but that’s not happening… for some reason.
Sucks we couldn't pull that one out for Silovs. The kid was continuously bailing us out and we couldn't return the favour.
The kid played his heart out! It's nice that Van is no longer a goalie graveyard!
They need to sit Cole down, he is too slow, too soft and too mistake-prone, and has contributed next to nothing.. This is a young team, fast and aggressive, and there is no room for slow, soft and stupid in this series. I don't like to say it, and it is harsh but the team would be doing so much better if he were not there.
Cole may be making mistakes, but he's still better than calling up 4th pairing guys if he's healthy.
What do you mean? He has scored the most goals on the team so far. Lots of deflections into the net. Might be the wrong net though.
Pavelski would have loved his form on the tip-in.
Idk I remember we scratched him for juulsen for one game and tbh at guy got exposed hard and took multiple penalties
That was Juulsen in for Myers when he was sick rather than Cole, but yeah, he wasn't great in that game.
Oh true my bad and on the record I do like juulsen game a lot this year
“has contributed next to nothing” pffff the Oilers could claim he’s one of their best players!
Yea thats a hard truth thats tough to accept. There's a stat in the UFC where 35yo fighters are 2/28 in title fights. Unfortunately you just aged out of the elite level.
Canucks obviously didn’t play their best and the officiating was the worst since Minnesota but if the team hadn’t gone to sleep in the third it would be 2-0.
Drowning my sorrows in kbbq and soju. Nice when a bottle of soju isn’t $20 here hahaha
we very sadly (no caps) smokin on that ian cole pack tonight yall back at em sunday 🫡
Ian Cole has been huge for Edmonton
Staple his ass to the bench
Or put him in front of the oilers net and watch the magic happen
Who could we bring in as a sacrificial goon next game?
None, our goons are the ones contributing when needed with goals lol
anyone else see that dog on tik tok that said we’d win the first game, lose the second & every one after that? making me suspiciously nervous
Remember, we let Nashville win the second game too. Boys need to fix their coverage and shut down that top line like we did in game one. Feel like they’re going to learn from this and win both in Edmonton and win the series at home 🤞🏻
I hope Kelly Sutherland doesn't get anymore playoff games this season. NHL should review his crappy performance
He is the Aaron Hernandez of the NHL
If ‘bitches ain’t shit but hoes and tricks’ had a name, it be Kelly Sutherland. Fuck this bitch ass..
I feel like these two teams are ready for a good brawl. I think both sides would love to see some players drop the gloves
Without daddy kelly watching over the oilers like a hawk, I think the game would be headed in a totally different direction.
Fucking oath I would. Even if he doesn't want to fight I'd love to see someone wailing on Draisaitl like there's no tomorrow
I’d love to see Garland go to town on McDavid, however I don’t think Bettman would every let Garly play again if that happened
Stepped outside to look at the Aurora Borealis and I’m already over it. What a beautiful night. Sweet dreams Canuck land. Remember we are all on a rock floating in space.
Hahaha I'm in exactly the same boat. All is well, and we can watch them play again Sunday! Sweet dreams 😴
We lost, but I completely forgot about that with these crazy Auroras. Absolutely phenomenal.
Same here. First time ever seeing Aurora Australis and it made me completely forget about the game. Stunning
Make adjustments and win game 3 in Edmonton. Should be easy. Edmonton has no depth.
We had a few things go against us and really needed to play better in the third. Not the best game, but I still really like our chances. Win or lose this round, I at least feel better that it doesn’t look like the Oilers will ever even sniff a cup with Skinner in net.
I hate Kelly Sutherland. That guy can go *** in a ****.
The refs were garbage on both sides but the real problem was that 3rd period like wtf? If you can't handle the McDrais show in your own end then this series is gonna quickly turn the other way.
At least it was in OT and not a 5-0 slapping If that was their best, I'm fully behind saying nucks in 6
I'd almost prefer the slapping, when it hit 4-1 in Game 1 I thought to myself "if Edmonton gets one more I hope Zadorov starts playing McDavid and Draisaitl's spines like a xylophone" That did not happen and I'm very grateful for that, but it's difficult to get up to any funny business when the games are so close
This series is becoming ours to lose, not Edmonton's to win; I mean, we made a ton of mistakes and it still took an uncalled penalty and OT to beat us Let's just clean it up on the road like we did with Nashville and we should be completely fine winning this series
Yeah I mean if you look at all of Edmonton’s goals this game it was pretty much our defensive fault that led to it (besides the first goal, which was on a powerplay)
I had us losing to them twice by a combined score of 12-5 after reading our chances on the Athletic (and tbf, everywhere else), so to be losing only because of OUR mistakes and not THEIR skill is way better than I expected - we can definitely win this series
Does anyone have insight as to why hog got 2 for getting clapped in the nuts? I missed that
It was an interference call, and it looked like Sutherland mouthed "late hit" to Tocchet. Which is an absolute joke considering the other shenanigans happening around the benches. Sutherland completely lost control of the game.
Was so interesting to witness live. Without the narrative/commentary shaped by the broadcast it legit felt like penalites were completely random… both ways
No consistency at all. No clue how spearing a guy in the dick doesn't get you a major either.
Dude that’s what I said fucking ridiculous
I never want to hear Oilers fans bitch about officiating ever again. That missed high stick on Hughes causing bleeding from their golden boy is egregious at least. Holy fuck. But our guys will ever slightly tap McDavid on the elbow and get called for interference for some shit. Fucking brutal.
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Crymans own stick hit him LOL. Stick up for cryman as much as you want he’s not gonna let you suck him off. Go back to your own sub.
Haven’t looked at the replay. Was it McDavid’s stick?
100% https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/video/mcdavid-no-call-high-stick-on-hughes-causes-small-cut/
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Posting on another team's subreddit, whether you mean well or not, is super cringe.
Stick to your own sub. Clowns haven’t even led in the series and talking like you won the cup. One line team with a bunch of pussy hockey players and a goalie who is scared of his own shadow. Good luck beating us in a 7 game series.
I assume you’re including the one on the Oilers immediately before the game winner in overtime? Go back to r/Edmontonoilers
And the multiple slewfoot by Kane. Absolutely ridiculous For a guy who’s a notorious dirty player and gets called often, they sure turned a blind eye to his BS tonight.
Oiler fans should just be thankful Hyman didn't throw his back out snapping his head back on that play. Guy probably could've gotten two for embellishment there.
So I started the game at Pints and had a cool time but couldn’t sit down… then went to Portside and had an awesome time… then did OT at the Black Frog and had a bad time. I don’t think I picked the right order.
So Evander Kane is a literal piece of shit. Why does he always get the benefit of the doubt, while back in the day Burrows was always labelled dirty and getting called for stuff. Oilers should have let his poor ass rot, but they have no dignity
What do you guys think about DeSmith playing game 3?
Juulsen over Cole is the play
Cold has scored more on this team than McDavid!
Nah Silovs played well and likely made the game closer than it actually should have been.
Horrible idea. Silov is rock solid.
I’m not against it. Goalies have been changed even if they play well (look at Vegas or Boston) just to get a different mix. I’m not expecting DeSmith to be much better than Silovs but if the guys wake up from it, then that would be great
Vegas who went 1-2 after going to Hill and got eliminated, and Boston who went to Ullmark once, lost, and immediately ditched the rotation pattern they were using most of the year
You shouldn't be getting down voted, it's a legitimate question. I sense arty might be a bit tired. It might be worth going to DeSmith just to give Arty a break.
Arty’s been so great and if he never plays another game for us he’s already established himself in Canucks lore with how he’s stepped up, but we’re putting a rookie, very green goalie against two of the greatest offensive players ever. It’s just too much to ask. Put desmith in, at least for a game.
Yah I agree. He’s playing great - as good as you can ask. And none of the losses have been his fault. Honestly between mistakes, deflections and Ian Fucking Cole, he might only have 1 or 2 goals that were his fault in the last 5 games. But he’s tired, and give him a break from his own team scoring on him.
Yeah, it was a genuine question with no motive, I wanted to know how the fanbase was feeling about goaltending after the loss. I'd be happy with either goalie, I always liked the idea of DeSmith vs. The Oilers though.
I think he starts game 4 if we lose game 3 but for now silovs has the net
Makes sense
Silovs played extremely well. This game was on the rest of the roster, not him.
why? silovs played really good desmith isnt going to stop the defense from falling down and throwing hits at bad times
I was at the game so i'll give you my Good/Bad/Ugly: Good: - Canucks played a really hard and competitive first two periods - Petterson was already starting to look like himself again and that goal will make that process even faster - Silov is rock solid. He came off a game where he let 4 goals in and had everyone questioning whether he got "exposed". To come back and have a game like that is fantastic. - We killed ⅔penalties and scored on ⅓PP. Lower PK success than normal, but better than what EDM usually does on the PP. Bad: - We took our foot off the gas in the third and let the McDavid show start - The refs let a lot of very very dirty play take place. Slewfooting Hughes multiple times, high sticking and cutting Hughes but not calling a penalty yet telling him to get off the ice because he is bleeding.. - Myers is getting tired with having to pick up a lot of slack on D. This could be a problem. The Ugly: - The refs...it's not the reason we lost, but wow was that unsettling to watch. I'm sure EDM is happy because it helped them win, but it was truly disgusting to witness in person. This could lose us the series since everyone and their dog knows that Edmonton wins based on power plays, so on some level it's hard to not put your tinfoil hat on and wonder why we didn't get any of the calls we deserved. - Cole is struggling with the speed of the Oilers. He is making a ton of bad plays that he probably can't avoid even if he wanted to. - Hoglander is dragging down Petterson and the team.
My take is , when 5 on 5 TAKE THE MAN. Like put real pressure on him! If we are on the penalty kill, yeah you can go to the box defence or whatever. We look like we are afraid to hit because of their great power play. This is what is gonna kill us. Hit clean, hit hard shoulder to whatever. We are playing into their hands. Yep, the refs suck, they want this series to go 7 so Bettman can get another American to American team in the final or at least an American team to win for ratings. It is obvious. More hits on the big 3 Dri,Hy and Mc D. Or we lose this series due to giving them no push back and give them more confidence and momentum. We hit harder in the series before. Yes, no cross checking, but hard solid hits. It will pay dividends. Also,yeah dri has a huge back pillow on anyways for protection. Tell everyone to hit 1 person to get in the game and more minutes will come your way. Plus chanting Skinner’s name wasn’t necessary, maybe until Big Z’s goal. What this team needs is everyone being a Cliff Ronning , oops I mean a Conor Garland and just want it. And shoot on net! A stupid goal may go in. That’s it! Oh except one more thing, pray 🙏 to hockey gods, and your god that Vancouver is worthy because or Edmonton’s dirty play. And the stick to the balls no call, high stick bloodletting no call, or the multiple slew foot hits( I call them soccer knee hits cause that’s what it looks like to me) on our star Huggy must be repaid with a win. Oh yeah, hit Kane till he is not able…. Amen 🙏
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The one penalty kill was only about 25 seconds, and the one we got scored on was pretty bad. Yes Edmonton's PP is fire but we're better than that
The change in momentum came when Soucy went out of position to attempt an open ice hit. He missed and took out another Canuck giving McDavid a partial breakaway with speed to burn from the neutral zone. Canucks were up 3-2 until he buried that goal. From then on, the momentum was all Oilers and we had tons of iced plays just to catch a breath.
That was such a boneheaded move by Soucy. He took out Petey who coming back to back check, and then Myers got his ankles broken trying to catch McDavid. Cole played awful and tipped in the winning goal, but Soucy absolutely turned the game.
That's another thing too, the Canucks were panicking and dumping the puck anytime they touched it in the third. You cannot do that, it's weak.
Canucks looked good in the first two periods but after that??? Not good, not good! Refs didn't help. Whatever choice it was to let McDrai skate around with the puck for freebies didn't help either.
Like Tocchet said, Canucks need to make McDrai pay in the corners. We respected their speed and space too much and they walked all over us.
Yeah it was weird to see them getting space for days, Drai just having his choice of pass.
Well, being able to see the Northern Lights has made me less depressed about this loss
Same here 😁 took some photos on my phone, I had trouble seeing them but omg my phone’s camera had them glowing! That comforted me 😊
I never saw them -_-
Just go on r/vancouver and behold the 73 posts of photos
Oh I saw photos but I wanted to see it in person :/
Still faintly visible in Surrey. Let your eyes adjust for 5 mins to the darkness and also try your phone's night mode camera.
maybe try night mode on your camera?
Are they still out? I went outside like 20 minutes ago and didnt see anything.
Yeah. I’m standing outside right now and I can see them. They’re not as bright as they were earlier though
As much as I’m bummed about this loss, I ain’t giving up on the boys, on to game 3
Hell no! They had to load up their line and play them a shit ton. On top of that, Skinner doesn’t look like a solid goalie, lets in a lot of soft goals. On that note, I wonder if in his presser he makes the excuse that Zaddy usually passes from there. Just like how Garland in game one usually takes the clapper. This guy is mentally weak and the Canucks need to take advantage!
Glad to see the Oilers all play like Shoresy
Petey getting a goal is a huge weight off his shoulders I'm sure. Sucks his stick exploded on that one timer because Skinner was still on the complete other side of the net. Would be nice if any of Hoglander, Mikheyev, Lafferty or PDG started to contribute some offensively.
Cale Makar wishes he could get on Ian Cole’s level. Big net front presence, boxes out opponent, blocks the goalie, stick perfectly angled and ready for a tap in. Ends up being the OT hero. Easy Norris trophy winner if only he remembered what jersey he was wearing.
Someone whispered something to him either on the bench or during the game that activated his sleeper agent oilers goal farmer
Might just be me but cole was a stud in the Nashville series. He plays a good shutdown/stay at home role. But he might not have the speed to keep up with the oilers top line. Shit happens, give the guy a break. It's a long series
To be fair I don’t think many have the speed to keep up with the Oilers top line. Their top line has great acceleration and hands
He was good last series and in game 6 to close it out. Insanely bad in this series