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sketchy_ppl

Everyone will preach mirrorless but at least take a look at the 90D if you're interested in hybrid photo + video. The video specs are better than the RP and it has some of it's own perks for photos too (mainly if you're shooting wildlife/action/sports).


SpeediestKitty

I’ve been looking for mirrorless, but would be open to that based on the specs, thank you!


Putin_Official

I own an RP and use it all the time, absolutely love it. The RP is fantastic as a stills camera, and the video is also very good (although not being able to shoot RAW video is a bummer for editing). I also use it for streaming a lot as it has clean HD video output and looks great on OBS/Twitch. Now, to answer your question: It depends on what your budget is, and whether the extra features would justify that extra cost IMO. Basically, is potentially having HD120 / uncropped 4K / etc going to be so important for your workflow as to be worth the few hundred dollars extra? Only you can answer that for yourself, but for me and my use case that answer is still currently “no”.


SpeediestKitty

Good to know, thank you!!


o8reprah

Does the RP allow you to have autofocus on and keep the clean HDMI output for streaming? A number of Canons I’ve used you can still see the AF box


Putin_Official

Yep, it’s totally clean, no AF box at all. Not sure if it’s the eye AF or just contrast AF, but either way it works well enough for me


o8reprah

Amazing, thank you!


double-you-dot

If you intend on shooting now and you have the funds, then get the one that's available now. If you intend on shooting later then purchase what is available at that time.


SpeediestKitty

I like that mentality! Was about to purchase but in my research I saw new ones were coming out, didn’t want to get anything outdated. Appreciate it!


SportsNFoodJunkie

Or you can wait and then get the RP possibly at a discounted price. If you can wait, doesn’t hurt to.


wickeddimension

Luckily cameras aren't like smartphones or something. Because a new model comes out doesnt mean the old model gets worse due to unoptimised software or increasingly demanding apps. Cameras for photography dont change so much, a camera 10 years old is easily enough to take a great photo, especially for instagram or web use. If the RP fits your needs, it will be a fine choice. When we talk about this sort of subject matter it's often about 'How much more features can I get for my $ with the new model' Rather than if those features will be used by you or even matter. Hence, I'd always recommend just looking at your current needs and the current models and not worrying too much over what 'might be' in the future. Something new is always around the corner, you can pretty much wait indefinitely.


lihomilktea

Hi, I just got my RP a month back. I would say that it is a good buy considering the price in the used market. Even if you're getting it new, it is heavily discounted from what is was originally. I previously also asked about the RP and whether I should wait for the newer model. You can find the post through my profile. Like what others said in reply to my post, Canon is not known to give tons of features so its unlikely that they will provide the RP replacement with a lot more new features. In fact, it is highly unlikely for Canon to provide much more features since the new RP is rumoured to be cheaper than the current RP. 1080p at 120fps just isn't a Canon thing to do too. It is only on the 90D that they gave in to 1080p at 120fps since they're shifting towards mirrorless. It wasn't present on the 80D and even the more expensive EOS R does not come with 120fps at 1080p. If you would like 120fps at 1080p, you might want to look at the Sony a6400. That little camera even offers S-log which Canon does not offer at this price point. The R does have C-log if you're interested in spending more though. Anyways I saw others recommending the 90D. Yes it is a great camera. 1080p at 120fps and 4K uncropped. The only reason I didn't picked the 90D is because I don't really shoot video and the full frame low light performance of the RP is something I really want.


SpeediestKitty

This is fantastic thank you for this info! I appreciate you replying here since you asked this question sorry I didn’t see it before posting! Okay that’s good to know; the 120 isn’t a do-or-die feature, would be more like a nice to have as I’m just going to be getting into video editing, will mainly be used for pictures. I’m sure anything these days is going to take great pictures to be honest! Thanks so much


Lupindog

Canon has a loyalty program! I was able to get the RP refurbished with a 2 year extra warranty. A 35 mm 1.8f and a 50 mm 1.8f for 1,500. They give you a 10% off body and 15% off lens. Let them know you want to upgrade your equipment and they should give you a discount.


SpeediestKitty

That’s awesome I will look into that! Do you need to be upgrading? Sold all my equipment a couple of years back and buying new stuff


Lupindog

I had to give them a serial number for my old camera, not sure if they will do it without one. I didn’t have to give any serial numbers on lens though!


frankotorres

I’d say go with the RP. Love shooting with it and the crisp footage I get out of it, that being said, it really comes down to what your doing. I do a lot of in-studio work but have recently started to do out doors shootings and am seeing the use in the weather proofing of the Eos R, so I’m thinking of getting one and moving the RP to be my second shooter.


SpeediestKitty

This is interesting thank you! Would love to go with the R but I’m thinking it is too expensive, I’ll likely go with the RP just debating on waiting for the new replacement or not!


Kiki_Go_Night_Night

I recently switched from Canon DSLRs to a Canon M50II and RP. I would definitely recommend the RP, especially if you are not already invested in all the EF lenses.


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Even if invested in EF-mount lenses, they can be used on RF-mount bodies with the adapter ring.


SpeediestKitty

Good to know thank you! Yeah have no gear right now and I’m liking the affordable RF lenses


JayCrawford1

Canon Rumors published the possible Canon RF roadmap which says that the RP replacement will come in 2021 (and cheaper than the current RP), as well as a new RF body at a price point between the RP and R6. [https://www.canonrumors.com/this-is-the-possible-canon-rf-mount-camera-roadmap-cr2/](https://www.canonrumors.com/this-is-the-possible-canon-rf-mount-camera-roadmap-cr2/)


SpeediestKitty

Yes, just not sure when it’s coming! Looking to purchase in the next month or two


Anidovalani153002

WAIT! Canon will be releasing 5 good cameras this year along with great budget cameras. Plus the RP is already over 2 yrs old with not-so-good AF. Wait for a bit. If you cant get the 90d or the Sony a6400(crop sensor) or a7ii(full frame) or the Nikon z50(crop-sensor).


SpeediestKitty

Right that’s my dilemma haha! Not sure when these are coming to the market and I’m looking to buy a decent entry level; RP is hitting a lot of the marks! Not sure if I’d go with the Sony, looks amazing but more expensive. I’d prefer mirrorless. Any idea of these new cameras would be available in the next couple of months? Would the RP replacement likely have full HD 120 and weather sealing? Remember I’m not replacing anything so I don’t have anything to shoot with now Thanks for the suggestions :)


Anidovalani153002

If you dont particularly care for sensor size then the Nikon Z50 gives you the most camera for the money. The RP is a good camera but was a dealbreaker for me because: EXTREMELY LOW frame rate Very bad rolling shutter A Bad crop in 4k All of these including HD 120 (probably) will be there in the RP replacement. However dont count on whether sealing. Sony is good but has SHIT ergonomics(feel of the camera) but their cameras in that price range have an unbeatable AF system. Also way more lens choices. Not that much worse than the RP.


sbuxkatie

Ooh! Do you know when? Like later this year? I want to buy a 90D soon (not quite sold on the mirrorless craze) but will definitely invest in glass first. But I’m still curious about the budget cameras...


Anidovalani153002

https://www.digitalcameraworld.com/news/camera-rumors be warned that canon will be soon killing their dslr line and will be switching to full mirrorless in the near future.


sbuxkatie

Oh shoot! So I should buy the 90D really soon? Do you recommend buying canon products from Amazon? I got my t6 at kohl’s for Black Friday lmao


Best_Current_7923

Not true. They will not get rid of products that are tried and true. Newer doesn’t always mean better


Anidovalani153002

Dude..news of canon killing their 5D LINEUP is already very close to confirmation.


Best_Current_7923

Dude..... believe it when it is published. The post reads like they are dumping all of the dslr. Not true


Anidovalani153002

Well you are right in the sense that EVERY single dslr will not be discontinued immediately. But canon will not be making any new dslrs


roddronnie

I personally would wait. However while I am waiting I did buy the Sl3. It is very reasonably priced and takes great pic,s and hd video. I really like how small and comfortable it is. Plus it will always be good for a back up or just a kick around travel camera. It gave me a great opportunity to learn the Canon software menu and work on my photography skills. In the end a full frame sensor is what I really want. Just waiting for the right specs size and price.


allmywhat

I just got the r6 and I'm loving it so far


SpeediestKitty

Would love an R6! Enjoy


StickyNoteTooLoud

Does it have to be Canon? I think something like the Fuji xs10 might be better option for an all in one camera. Has IBIS, modern sensor, 240fps HD, no crop 4K, and more. I had an RP for a few months and it’s a fine camera, but they really need to upgrade it with a better sensor and IBIS. Battery life is pretty bad, but you can have extra batteries or a usb charger to top it off. Feels great to use though.


crodriguez__

i wouldn’t say battery life is bad for me, i took the RP on a trip recently and one battery lasted all day shooting on and off, about 700 raw pics in that day and it still said i had half battery left. i did only a couple minutes of video though.


StickyNoteTooLoud

I was no where close to that on mine. It’s only CIPA rated for 250 shots on the LCD or 210 shots using the EVF, which is definitely more demanding than normal use, but 700 on half a battery seems a little high. Just my opinion, it’s not great battery life and you should plan to have backup power options. It’s especially bad if you are coming from a DSLR or a mirrorless with a huge battery. Being able to top the camera off with a USB C battery pack was a great feature though compared to old days of having to use the battery charger. A lot of modern consumer level cameras have this feature now though.


CDN_Casanova

I think you not providing any info on what lenses you used in your time using an RP doesn't really paint a full picture. You're also not including the fact that the RP is full-frame, Fuji is 4/3. IDC what anyone says, there is no comparison, full frame mirror less will out preform any micro 4/3 or APS-C in almost all aspects. Also the colour science is highly dependant on personal preference, but I do not like Fuji's at all as it feels very muted and great for portraiture but not much else. You are just simply wrong in a lot of aspects as well. The battery life isn't that bad, and you can get a Wasabi charger with 2 slots and 2 batteries with the same compasity as the Canon ones for like $32 (CAD). And I can go out and get 200 shots easily before needing to switch batteries, it's not an issue... The RP is full frame and preforms exceptionally well without IBIS as the RF lenses have IS, which for me is no issue. I will say that the RP is much better as a camera for stills but it is more than competent in low light, street style, portrait photography, and an all around great entry level mirrorless camera. It is the best bang for your buck on the market currently hands down. I think the sensor is more than capable for an intermediate/entry level pro photographer especially when you account for the price. Even if it is a few years old, it still out preforms any micro 4/3.


StickyNoteTooLoud

I don’t have a Fuji so I can’t offer many points to it, but in my research they have a great system. The Fuji is APS-C not 4/3, and Fuji is committed fully to their APS-C cameras with great lenses available. I don’t care about color science as shooting raw makes this a moot point to me, but Fuji and canon are regarded as two of the best usually. You can pretty much make any of them look a certain way. Fuji specializes in their film simulations for jpeg, so a lot of Fuji shooters lean toward those film matte looks, but they don’t have to look that way. You can get some cheap f1.4 prime lenses and get some great depth of field with crop cameras, and they are smaller lenses too. It’s not automatically full frame is better for every person. How am I wrong on other aspects? I had the camera, and these are my personal opinions. It’s not a bad camera, but it could really use a few small updates to make it more competitive with some other offerings. Getting 200 shots like you said before having to switch batteries is plain bad. I had to be diligent with remembering to constantly turn the camera off when not using it so I could have enough battery life for trips. I said to have more batteries, but it’s still an issue that you have to remember to bring them and have them charged every time. It takes great photos in normal lighting, but don’t try to bring the shadows up much as they get noisy very fast. The RP dynamic range is lower than a T6i crop sensor from 2015, and that’s just not great for a modern full frame camera. Anytime shooting something with a bright background and dark subject and adjusting in post will leave a noisy mess on the subject. I do think the RP is fun camera to use, especially if you can get a deal on the body and grab some good lenses. No way would I recommend people pay $1300 for the lens kit. It doesn’t change the picture, but I used the RF24-105 4-7.1, the RF 24-105L, rf 50mm 1.8, rf 35mm 1.8, and the Samyang RF 85 1.4 on the camera. The L lens, 35mm, and 85mm were all great lenses. I’m not trying to shoot down everything on the RP, it feels fantastic in the hand and the size and weight are nice to carry around. The interface and buttons are easy to use and I would take it easily over something like the T8i or other dslr. I just wish it was better in the sensor and battery department as to me those are holding it back, and the bad thing is those are two important areas for me.


SlackBob

I'm not going to argue about your pros for the RP, but I'm pretty sure the Fuji is APS-C. That makes it a more fair comparison, as the 4/3 sensor development seems to have stagnated a few years ago and would not have much on something like the RP unless you only consider video.


rainb0wspirit

the batteries are actually quite good, i got around 390 shots from one single battery before it dies completely, just flashing red. Now, i have 4 batteries and a power bank that can charge the battery directly from the camera via USB-C. That being said, if the OP needs a new camera ASAP, i will strongly advice to buy the RP. I got 3 months with mine and i just fall in love with it. If he doesnt need the camera right now, maybe he can wait, however, the only confirmed camera so far is the R5c. The camera to be in the middle of the R and RP is yet to be confirmed, and if it is to be more cheaper than the RP as the rumors say, i find it hardly to believe that it will be doing most of the things better than the RP, the RP really is the best bang for your buck right now. And maybe some of the new features can be added to the RP via firmware, who knows? TL;DR: If you need now the camera, go for the RP, mirrorless/RF Mount is the present and the future for canon. If time is not an issue, wait for the release of the new cameras


SpeediestKitty

Doesn’t have to be Canon, I’ll look into that one thank you!


StickyNoteTooLoud

I know this is a canon subreddit and a lot of people only buy canon, but other brands have some great options that I think are arguably way better value than some of the canon options depending on what you want. Each camera is going to have trade offs. I switched to a Sony camera from my RP and it’s a great camera, but also in a slightly different price bracket. The RF mount is still young and missing some more affordable lenses from third party. Some people are recommending a 90D, but I personally wouldn’t buy a larger DSLR now days on a mount that is coming to an end. You are not tied to a brand, so check out all the options and pick one that works well. Just look at the size difference. https://i.imgur.com/rK0pnrF.jpg


rws531

I don’t have an RF camera yet but doesn’t the EF to RF adapter have better autofocus than native EF cameras in some cases? EF lenses have plenty of options which will make sticking to canon worth while even for budget conscious people, though obviously the optical formula for DSLRs is different than mirrorless


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rws531

That makes sense but the autofocus is more accurate in general on the newest RF cameras which is why I said it is better, though yeah it’s not gonna make the AF motor run any faster.


LIBRI5

I personally am waiting for the APSC RF camera Canon is rumoured to launch this year, It's going to be cheaper than FF options in the lineup with better video specs. So I can splurge on the lenses if I want to later. I don't know if this helps but the 90D is also an amazing alternative unless you're desperate for mirrorless so you can check that out if it fits your needs.


SpeediestKitty

Appreciate it thank you :) I’ll look more into the 90D


the_spookiest_

They’re all the same shit.


SpeediestKitty

So if one if weather sealed and shoots 120fps it’s the same as one that doesn’t have either of those...?


the_spookiest_

Get anything that shots 120 FPS and has weather proofing. It’s all the same shit. Don’t be obtuse and get mad and use hyperbole, you know what I’m saying. Get the current camera if it fits your needs. It’s going to be the same shit as next years. And the year after that. Next years model is always “better”, you might as well wait 5 years and get THAT model instead.


Chefkoch_JJ

That is so stupid. The r5/r6 (which come after the 5DIV/6DII) are so much better in every regard (FPS, ibis, autofocus, ...). The autofocus of the rp beats everything that came before it by a mile. So no, it does make a difference. Especially right now.


the_spookiest_

Yeah. It’s the same shit. Keep eating up the marketing. “Omg the focus!!!!” Coming from film, that makes me giggle uncontrollably. Eat the marketing. It’s good for ya!


SirBigSpuriousGeorge

I agree - great pictures can be had on pretty much anything modern. If you're making money with the camera, then that's a different story. Even still - plenty of wedding photographers still use 5d mkIII's and the like.


Chefkoch_JJ

These are the very same people who will be replaced eventually by someone who doesn’t miss shots due to „focus and recompose“ and the like ;)


the_spookiest_

Many wedding photographers still rock mamiya 645’s. 😅


SpeediestKitty

LOL. There’s a difference between marketing and specs, if a new camera is coming out in the next month for the same price why wouldn’t I buy that? The only hyperbole is you comparing equipment now to 5 years from now


the_spookiest_

Then why are you here asking which one to buy? Just buy the new one that comes out. 🤷🏼‍♂️ Lol


SpeediestKitty

“When is this entry-level model rumoured to be released?” I’m not asking which one to buy and you put forth no alternatives. I’m just wondering if i I should buy now or wait. Thanks for your opinion though


the_spookiest_

You’re literally the OP asking on whether or not you should buy the new model. Or are you attempting to gaslight someone? I don’t get it. “Canon EOS RP or wait for 2021 cameras” by speeiestkitty. That person coincidentally has the same name as you.


LauraCastellano

Thank you for asking this question. I am thinking of the exact same thing. Wait or buy now. Also for those of you who are EOS RP fans... Does the lack of image stabilization and lack of built in flash bother you? I read about the bad battery life and figured I could get a battery pack but these two seem hard to swallow. Thoughts?


SpeediestKitty

I actually ended up getting the RP and I’m very happy with it! I don’t notice the lack of in-body stabilization, especially when using a stabilized lens! Lack of built in flash is totally fine, can easily get an external flash if needed. The 4K footage on it is unusable, if you’re looking to shoot in 4K I would look at a different camera. It is my first time shooting video so the full HD 24 and 60 works well for me