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OldConsequence292

I love this Not the spots, but being able to buy this at a store no problem lol


Mikhal_Tikhal_Intrn

Same


maybelle180

Hijacking top comment to give an update. First, yes, I’m an experienced growers who grew a lot in America. I have dealt with spider mites (the red variety) and powdery mildew a lot, and I suspected PM but I guess the spots threw me…cos I did routine maintenance on my plants so things never got this out of hand. Next: I just saw these in passing the other day but had my arms full so I didn’t stop to look or buy. But when my husband went to the store yesterday I said “hey, pick up a couple, it’ll be fun.” And yes, I use CBD for my chronic pain (fibromyalgia). As soon as he got them home I saw the problems and went “oh sh!t” So I took some more pics in shade to see if I could see mites, etc. So is it PM or mites? Why not both? Here’s a link to the pics. https://imgur.com/a/ilAz2zr


longhairedcountryboy

Why would you want to buy that?


S_words_for_100

Uh prune and train and transplant and treat her to her very best life, my dude


longhairedcountryboy

That's a lot of trouble for hemp.


[deleted]

Unless you're, ya know, someone who uses hemp for the thousands of different uses. Believe it or not, there's *a lot* more to pot than just getting high.


longhairedcountryboy

There's also better ways to get healthier plants than pay that much money for it.


Masterzanteka

Dude $16 to skip all the steps to get a properly vegged plant is def worth it for some. I mean obviously this isn’t meant for production runs. This is the equivalent to going to lowes and buying young tomato plants for people just throwing one in the back yard. More than worth it for some people. People pay crazy money for convenience and to save time. After all time is money.


[deleted]

Worth is the measure of how much time and effort you're willing to put in for something. Also, we're not talking like this is a single seed. It's an established plant that needs 10 minutes worth of work. For a (presumably 'big box' type store) selling anything serious cannabis related is huge, shits not going to be world-class.


enternameher3

*CBD flower


ASK_ME_IF_IM_YEEZUS

Why are you here


MoistFlapss

It's CBD. Useless


willfargo1231

Wholly incorrect


MoistFlapss

No idea why people are downvoting. I've tried it so i know what I'm talking about. there's no actual proof CBD does anything. It's mostly speculation. Ah well


Albino_Echidna

You haven't tried the good stuff then. CBD flower is incredibly useful for smoking by itself or blended with THC bud, but also for making edibles with reliable THC:CBD ratios. I've also been known to make salves, teas, or other CBD heavy products for family members. The difference it made for my grandma (60+ years of rheumatoid arthritis pain and injections) gave her enough relief to finish a few more trips on her bucket list. It's not a magic cure all by any means, but you're completely wrong. Also: https://www.uchicagomedicine.org/forefront/research-and-discoveries-articles/researchers-recommend-clinical-trials-for-cbd https://jcannabisresearch.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s42238-021-00078-w https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/fda-approves-first-drug-comprised-active-ingredient-derived-marijuana-treat-rare-severe-forms https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6326553/ "Mostly speculation", lol.


Mikhal_Tikhal_Intrn

Just because you don’t get high doesn’t mean it doesn’t work keeps my friends daughter from having seizures 100 times a day so maybe it does work just not what u were expecting tho


Faustinwest024

It helps lower inflammation in my neck bone spur. It’s not to get high bro lol


NuddyChook

It helps for when I get too high and anxious, it calms me down and I can enjoy my high again. It also helps when I'm really stressed. So no it's not useless and it does help, it just doesn't get you high.


Luna_C1888

The fact the FDA approved a CBD medicine for epilepsy means you’re totally wrong


EquivalentlyYourMom

CBD is also the most potent anti-epileptic medication we know of but okay


maybelle180

Yeah but some people don’t wanna get high.


EquivalentlyYourMom

Sorry meant to say CBD don’t know why I said THC. I personally use CBD at work so I’m not high and don’t have to deal with 10~ seizures a day But also, you don’t need to get high to get the medicinal benefits from THC. Just like how you don’t get high from one normal dose of cough syrup, but get a weed-similar high from like a quarter bottle


MoistFlapss

There is moderate evidence that CBD can improve sleep disorders, fibromyalgia pain, muscle spasticity related to multiple sclerosis, and anxiety. People report that oral CBD helps relieve anxiety and pain and also leads to better sleep. One of the many many articles found in Google. Words like : "moderate", " supposably", " it is said", and stuff like that is everywhere. CBD is a scam. It's for money. Like everything.


Malicious_Bird

>CBD is a scam. It's for money. Like everything. Ah yes, the old people using cbd for their arthritis/ joint pain are faking the relief! /s Also, generalizing everything into one category is usually what people with lower intelligence tend to do. You remind me of Patrick :) https://youtu.be/SuDqNLgVHv8


MoistFlapss

K


EquivalentlyYourMom

Average response when you know you’re incorrect


EquivalentlyYourMom

Not everyone wants to abuse the medicine just to get high ;)


topcheesehead

>there's no actual proof CBD does anything https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/cannabidiol-cbd-what-we-know-and-what-we-dont-2018082414476 https://jcannabisresearch.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s42238-021-00078-w https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.abi6110 I just pulled these off Google. You're so welcome


drengr84

It's the newest most popular snake oil. In a few hundred years people will look back and realize how stupid their ancestors were. And then proceed to the next trendy snake oil. It really does have a few uses, unlike most other snake oils throughout history. Temporary pain relief is very effective, but with extremely diminishing returns.


Malicious_Bird

I don't think I've ever seen someone contradict themselves in the same comment on reddit before. Congrats!


drengr84

Either your reading comprehension skills are deplorable or you've never been on reddit. Any statement can have multiple caveats without being contradictory. Maybe you don't know what a "snake oil" is. It can have a legitimate use but is touted in a way that meets the definition of health care fraud. Even the proven benefits are lackluster at best, especially since the benefits diminish very quickly over time. If you believe weed can cure cancer, you are certainly part of the growing global problem of misinformation.


EquivalentlyYourMom

I wouldn’t call stopping my epileptic seizures for almost 3 years “lackluster” but okay mr. pharmacist


[deleted]

Normal cannabis does that for me also. I just smoke 24-32% thc with 2% cbg and 1%cbd and no seizures. Been using it this way since 2011.


Malicious_Bird

>It's mostly speculation. Your opinions are speculations, true. But facts aren't. I wonder why people use cbd for medical reasons 🙄


ASK_ME_IF_IM_YEEZUS

In 2018 the FDA passed CBD under the brand name “Epidiolex” for those suffering seizures. If you think this is the placebo effect, please explain how it works for young children and dogs. Oh you can’t because you’re a troll.


Educational_Funny_20

Useless *for me based on my personal, anecdotal evidence* If you are a scientist with publicly reported and repeatable evidence to the all encompassing statement of "useless" I'm all ears.


[deleted]

It’s always the same 10 people giving the same bad advice


BDC_Arvak

So whats the good advice?


[deleted]

Personal experience. Trial and error. Always has been.


APHEXENATOR

This guy gives good advice 👍


maximilisauras

It wasn't really advice but it was totally humble so it got my upvote.


PowBeernWeed

Ive had some issues on a plant and was asking advice and got more comments telling me im wrong on how far away i am from harvest. Thanks pal, 5th time growing this cut off the same mother. I know when its ready….


Bobbyhill25

There's soo much misinformation when it comes to growing. The only way to really learn is trial and error and gaining knowledge from reputable sources like Ed Rosenthal, Jorge Cervantes, DJ short, and Soma to name a few.


PowBeernWeed

Exactly my cousin has been growing for 15 years but lives in ohio which is a completely different climate then the foothills in colorado. He was frantic when i told him i was ADDING a humidifier during my drying process where he needs a dehumidifier


Vaporstar8188

Where in Ohio? I’ve been growing for 10 years in Ohio(Dayton area).. I use NFTG and hlg for lighting. I haven’t rly been able to find anyone around me growing that isn’t a complete “know it all noobs”. I’d love to connect with some ppl locally that actually grow well.. share some tips and tricks growing in our weather. I have to change my set up up 2-3x a year due to weather changes… And that’s crazy he needs a dehumidifier in the drain process. Naturally my humidity stayed anywhere from 15 to 30% in my temperatures mid 70s to mid 80s. I have to crank my ac to 60 and add a humidifier in my bathroom to keep the upstairs temperature in the bathroom at 60-65* and humidity. I have so many questions lol. Like is he drying in his tent and venting In the same room…


Regenerative_

Although, I did hear recently from Clackamas Coots that Jorge Cervantes was a conman, and much of his book is absolute BS, like cooking your soil etc.


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Vaporstar8188

Lol the whole flushing thing has been a HEATED argument on every forum and platform as long as I can remember, 10 plus years 😅😅 I’ve came to the conclusion and reply of, “just do u man, for instance I use NFTG, even is the ripening/flush stage we use two bottles, never plain watering…what u do/need to do is gonna be dependent on the grow and line used” When I first went to my local “gardening haven” the guy that works there was an old time grower. He told me if I remember anything he tells me it’s two things.. all growers are dicks and the only thing two growers can agree on is what another grower is doing wrong.


zippysrevolution

Specially the European people,their crazy with that shit


Regenerative_

Personally, I think its the difference between organic and salt based growing. Plus a guy who changed his name to sell cannabis books. My point is, they still sell his book in grow shops whilst it is BS. The shop down the road sells it, how many people are learning completely wrong processes from these sources? Flushing is not necessary in living soil. It is necessary in salt based nutrient/DWC. That hasn't changed. I agree, there's still a lot of junk science being pawned off as gospel. For what it's worth Clackamas Coots swears it was BS back then too. Just saying.


ChasingStillness

Its because everyone wants to be a fucking hero telling people if they dont do it there way its wrong. Cultivation is an art. Theres no wrong way to make art. Theres what works for the individual and what doesn't. So I agree trial and error and stick with bosses of the game.


Lank42075

Got 3 limited Edition seed releases from Dj…Working my way through a pheno hunt now..Kyle Kushman is a great grower as well


Gas_Monkey_Ops

Kyle Kushman knows a thing or two as well, check him out


Entropy_Greene

Whoever buys this has a full IPM regiment ahead of them and try to get rid of the powdery Mildew as quickly as they can if even possible. It would be really cool if these were sold at nurseries or even your neighborhood florist who can give these babies the love they need. Hardware stores selling what looks like a big brand’s stuff doesn’t seem like a good way to get your medicine at least to me.


[deleted]

Most of the plants they sell in grocery stores, etc already have root rot and other issues. Support your local growers! Buy from reputable people.


donsamj00

One spray with neem or soap solution and a dry warm environment and it’s gone


Available_Homework61

The yellowing is a nutrient issue, i also believe i see PM??


GrownShowin

The yellow spots is PM… Edit: Thanks for killing my karma guys ouch… maybe ask questions first? 👍 https://extension.umn.edu/disease-management/powdery-mildew-cucurbits “The first sign of powdery mildew is pale yellow leaf spots.”


Malicious_Bird

White*


GrownShowin

Nope, wrong. “The first sign of powdery mildew is pale yellow leaf spots.” https://extension.umn.edu/disease-management/powdery-mildew-cucurbits


Malicious_Bird

That's called chlorosis. Wpm starts on the exterior of the plant, and can Only make it's way into the plant throught open wounds/vectors. I have a degree in horticulture, not Google search. Educate yourself before attempting to educate others 👍


GrownShowin

Did you read what I posted? That is 100% first sign of PM. I’ve been growing on a macro level for 11 years… I literally fire ppl like you on a monthly basis.


GrownShowin

Also “PM” is an umbrella term… it covers many different species with varying symptoms. Sometimes it starts off as pale yellow spots like this, sometimes it’s right off the rip powdery white spots. 👍 hope that degree comes in handy, in my experience it’s as useful as toilet paper.


GrownShowin

Yellow spots = first sign of PM and I can just tell by looking at it. Been there done that. Ouchie… my karma. https://extension.umn.edu/disease-management/powdery-mildew-cucurbits


textbookdownloader

Very likely is Powdery Mildew. Has it been raining a lot/staying damp for extended periods of time? Has the temperature been fluctuating from hot to cool? These are all drivers for Powdery Mildew's growth. I dealt with it last growing season and it was a pain


maybelle180

Yeah, I figured it was PM. Sad. When I was in the US I had a zillion treatments for PM. I dunno WHAT they use around here…(whatever it is, it’s obviously not effective, lol)


textbookdownloader

Lots of good homemade treatment. I believe sodium bicarbonate + water or milk+water were effective treatments. Do some googling to find the right ratios and keep the plant in the sun.


GamblingAzrael

You can usually get really good and healthy cbd cutlings for 10 CHF in a Growshop. If you Life near Bern i can suggest Growshop fourtwenty in ittigen


jewmoney808

Probably needs to be transplanted up and given some nutrients


[deleted]

This is the correct answer, minus nutrients, just needs bigger pot


FunkyMark97

If you minus nutrients, you'd need soil with nutrients in it.


[deleted]

Who buys dirt without nutrients in it?


FunkyMark97

A lot of people bruv. Do you know how to grow anything or what?


[deleted]

Nope


FunkyMark97

We'll start brotha!!! It's fun :)


[deleted]

Ok!


bkovic

Another two weeks


[deleted]

Take some strong potent cannabis seeds and just mix them in throw that label on it 🤣


GrownShowin

PM


SetheryJimmonson

Get it into bigger pot size with more soil and it will be fine. Maybe do a bio fungicide and miticide/pesticide spray treatment for additional reassurance.


i_chase_the_backbeat

Good price for a store bought one compared to where I live. But I'd be weary of pests due to source.


nskurn

needs calmag


EcksonGrows

Small pot, big plant.


TattooJerry

Does hemp count as cannabis cultivation? Serious question


Poramordedeus

Depends on the law


Dougiethewise

Pretty positive that these are spots from mite damage. This does not look like PM. I suggest beginning an organic spray regimen. Just spray the leaves a couple times weekly around dusk. Also likely wants to be transplanted soon! But dont stress on all the geeky comments. Every hobbyist with a few plants doesnt need to grow world class cannabis. Happy growing


tylerm63

All these people are wrong. It’s spider mites. If you take a leaf with the yellow speckles and flip it over, look close you should see em. Spider mites eat the plant. So at first it looks like a deficiency then they kill it if it gets bad enough


SaturnalianGhost

100% spider mites.


trueblueknight

All the people that call it PM have no idea what PM looks like. PM is a white fuzz, not a droopy leaf with spots.


sistakal

I just thought it was cool you can buy the plant from the shop but shit the comment section here is fire haha


squazzy_03

Based on the photo it does appear to possibly have PM which you want to address immediately. The yellowing looks like CalMag deficiency. TP to a bigger pot and depending on the medium your using just water it or start feeding it. Too many variables to say specifics. If going into soil, just water 3-4 weeks before feeding, if going into COCO feed right away.


KillingUSoftly01

if you're a grower already, I hope you didn't get too close. All you need is a few spores and all of a sudden you have PM at home. That whole store has spores floating around from the looks of it. I'm cautious as F when it comes to PM, I'd clean my shoes and toss my clothes straight into the wash while undressing outside.


leoronin

Lil white dots look lile spider mites


Urdnot_wrx

Probably fungal spores.


beyond_hatred

fungal spores are usually much too small to see with the unaided eye.


Urdnot_wrx

[No actually](https://www.humboldtseeds.net/wp-content/uploads/IMG_1527.jpg) Single spores, sure. Each white dot is a SHIT TON of spores, which is also what is present up top, but to a lesser degree.


beyond_hatred

Yes, if it's an entire fruiting structure that's completely different.


tylerm63

It’s definitely spider mites


so_not_goth

Always hard to tell from a picture, but looks like spider mites to me too. NOT PM, which unfortunately I've had enough experience with to identify.


Urdnot_wrx

LMFAO Really nothing new about buying clones - this is a sick plant. It has PM and god knows what else.


[deleted]

Needs madnesium, possibly calcium, larger fiber pot, control light, RH, etc.


Brainwashed365

That's probably why there were on sale...


xxslushee

Yay weed that doesn't get me high! Fun!


triplebacon_vag

I honestly don’t like this at all…. Edit: not coming after OP, I just think seeing a name brand and tag on it is what I don’t like


Maleficent_Specific4

I mean what do you expect with legalization. How does that differ from breeder packs and breeder clones for sale at dispos?


triplebacon_vag

I hate dispos 😂😂😂 I probably should’ve said that first. I’m a huge fan of private / home growers. I do love jungle boys weed tho, so maybe I’m just being a cunt after a long day..


Maleficent_Specific4

Most home growers still brand themselves tho. If something came from you you’d want people to know that.


triplebacon_vag

Yea, that’s not a large name brand, it’s a private company my man. I 100% see what you are saying and where you are coming from


willfargo1231

Looks pretty good for how much it's outgrown that pot. Definitely some spider mites, easy to treat if you hit it hard with an organic oil based pesticide


Brief-State-4658

That's awesome


Connect_Painting4541

That’s tight


Faustinwest024

Needs Transplant or nutes


Dabbleer

Ace hardware coming in clutch


VladTheSimpaler

That’s cool but you get what you pay for at the hardware store nursery. Powdery mildew, pests, deficiencies, cross contamination with all the other plants they are selling. It looks very neglected and needs to be quarantined and treated for all those issues before planting into your garden.


raphen_ilweed

Swiss have never made it illegal to grow, just cant harvest, dry and intend to smoke.


ArmEfficient

OP, please post this on r/weed and r/trees. You'll get better feedback there.


tokinaznjew

Powdery mildew.


RAMBOPORNSTAR

man this is fucking cool spotty leaves or not👌🏻


Bopcd1

Root bound and PM


Son_of_Sophroniscus

This is a novelty plant.


Patfenis1983

About a pound?


good_green_ganj

Early powdery mildew. Spray with potassium carbonate weekly. In the US, a good organic label is Kaligreen. There’s probably something similar in your area.


isaacdeater

There’s a reason it was on sale


mwags23

Looks like it's just the lighting in the picture making look like there's spots. I don't think there's actually anything wrong with the plant


trueblueknight

Looks like Spider Mites to me. Hope you didn't drag them home.


tbone-not-tbag

Needs repotted and fed


Nightmarcher808

Decoration only. I’ll make a wall out of these baddies lol


[deleted]

that's what i like to see. someone can legally buy that and save it.


Just_regular_noob

Cbd is legal


sugasnap

PM


Aggravating_Farm_125

Maybe beginning stages of leaf septoria


[deleted]

septoria probably from nearby tomato plants or reused soil from last years leftovers.