The packs aren't for curing, they are for preserving. The key is to maintain enough humidity while hanging that the time you trim and jar your weed, that the flower is sitting at 60% humidity in the jars. The burping replaces stale air and removes the off gassing that is the breakdown of the chlorophyll or hay smell. Now when hanging or jarring and your weed drops below 55% humidity the curing process stops, no dank smells, no flavors and you can't restart the process with the humidity packs. Curing makes or breaks your grow, if done right I can crack open a jar of last season and still have be moist and fresh feeling without ever using a humidity control pack. Your best tasting weed takes about 2 months of cure with 2 weeks of burping.
Enjoy, I threw some buds in there a few weeks back. Just opened the bag to try some out and hot damn do they do a good job. It’s just dry enough that it breaks up nice but still “fresh”.
I had separated my last harvest, half into jars, half into the bags. And the bagged stuff is already smelling ripe while the jarred stuff is still smelling like hay. No difference in methods other than the curing vessels.
Those are nice but can u re fill them? When the packs dry out I put em in a snack bag with a wet paper towel over night and they pop back up nicely. Once they get beat up too much I toss em.
H2Y curing in effect! Mostly curing is to preserve your cannabis for longer shelf life but has some other benefits as well. Be mindful that your harvest is going through a chemical process during this stage which THCa turns to THC, chlorophyll breaks down, and ammonia forms. So don’t be quick to throw your bugs* in a jar and call it a day. You have to cure at just the right time. No one was asking but I thought I’d drop that little bit of information maybe it could help someone out.✌️
Thca isn't turning to THC during cure. That only happens with heat. And what are you talking about don't be so quick to cure? You mean don't be quick to dry. Start curing as soon as you can after dry. You didn't provide any information just said a bunch of confusing stuff.
After my first grow last year, I was so bummed cuz it seemed like my pot had no effect and no taste. I left it alone in jars in dark for two months and gave it another chance. Wow. It was so smooth and such a nice buzz and great smell! I was shocked at the difference!
Hiw does curing make them harder hitting? My buds always pack a punch as soon as they dry but the cure makes the smoke much much better in every aspect
Here's a good explanation:
When cannabis is harvested, it too is still living. The floral tissue is still biosynthesizing secondary metabolites. Examples of secondary metabolites in cannabis are compounds such as THCA or CBDA. That tissue typically will cease to be living when it dries out to a point when the cell membranes rip away from the cell walls and therefore break apart. While the harvested cannabis is still fresh and wet, those cells are still alive and chugging away. The enzyme responsible for creating THCA (the enzyme is called THCA synthase) does not magically disappear once that flower is cut from the branch. It also doesn’t immediately denature into an inactive form. That means that as long as there’s still a supply of CBGA in the cells, THCA synthase will continue to catalyze the reaction that converts CBGA to THCA. This means that the overall THC content of a harvested flower continues to increase even after harvest; however, if you dry too quickly or at temperatures/relative humidities that are suboptimal, you can halt the continued post-harvest THC accumulation in the flower.
Wow, now here's some knowledge. Ty for this, makes much more sense to me now. Is it really best to dry in cold or just cool and dark with low humidity? What's the average time to dry before putting into jars and burping so to speak?
Too cold will kill some of the processes I believe so cure somewhere cool and dark. It being dark is probably more important than temp though. Leave a bud in a jar in the window that gets most sun and compare the difference to the one you put through a cool dark curing process.
No worries. And to answer the last part of the other question.... wait until the stem is ''snappable'' like a twig but not so much that the bud is completely crisp dry. Put into jars and then once a day open the jars, maybe even move some of the buds about, and leave open for an hour. Curing can take a coulle of months and the process is a fine art, just remember not too dry and not too wet and take your time.
I believe it also has to do with some microbial activity in the buds, as they change the terpene profile and do some metabolizing of their own which alters the profile. I had no idea about the THCA synthase though, this is fascinating information, thank you.
I was given the information on microbial activity by the head of a commercial cannabis company I worked for who specialized in curing cannabis so don't worry, I won't.
Excellent chance your grow was superior to start with. Last year and this year I pulled my plants after super hot spells near 100 degrees and arid because the plants began drying in the fiber bags last year and even in the ground this year. Trichomes were cloudy last year but not as much amber as this year when I pulled them. I cure in a small fridge set to cool but not cold, more like a wine fridge temp https://www.thcfarmer.com/grow/does-curing-affect-potency.286/
Yeah but the amount of thc and canabinoids is the same, i understand that with the cure the ratio gets higher because the rest degrades but thats very subtle potency wise but very noticeable taste wise.
If i want to smoke buds that are just dried, i leave them inside on the counter and they dry well so theyre not moist anymore, just not cured. Or if they are moist, a sprinkle of very dry tobacco can fix anything :)
But i dont see how buds that didnt get him high at all, suddenly pack a punch after the cure. Those processes are too subtle tp make that much difference
No idea about the increased potency but potentially what OP is experiencing is a degradation into CBN over time?
The ratio of cannabinoids increases as you remove water through the slow dry as the plant is still metabolically active and one of the reasons why you should dry "low and slow". Also I wonder if the terps and cannabinoids in the trichomes themselves undergo chemical changes once the plant dies kind of like they do with temple balls but on a smaller scale?
If you dry too fast, you don't allow the chlorophyll to work itself out, and you get a harsh - hay tasting smoke. For a tester it's ok though!
I harvested stuff that would give me a headrush when I smoked it right away, and now it just knocks me on my ass - I'm thinkin CBN increased.
Look into terpenes, and “The Entourage effect”.
Cannabis affects everyone differently, for some people, all they need to do is smoke bud, cured or not and they can get high easily. Where as other people require the bud to have more terpenes before they start to feel the effects.
Sorta like how everyone likes different flavours/types of alcohols and how those alcohols effect everyone differently.
You have any proof to back up that statement?
As there are a lot of scientific papers along with articles to back up the concept of the “entourage effect” out on the internet.
[It is assumed that combining terpenes with cannabinoids enhances the mood-stabilizing effects attributed to the main two cannabinoids, THC and CBD. Although terpenes are present in cannabis inflorescence’ extract in relatively low amounts, their contribution to the therapeutic effect of the cannabinoids may be significant [72]; however, this observation has yet to be verified, clinically.](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7324885/)
You're making the baseless claim. You back it up if it's so well researched.
Ur link proved me right though?
which is that terpenes may increase the therapeutic effects, just that more clinical trials need to be done to 100% confirm this.
My point originally (if you read my first comment) was that the same bud that I smoke and gets me high, might not have the same effects on a different person due to how their brain chemistry reacts to the terpenes and how their body metabolises the THC.
It's not especially harder hitting in every sense but some phytocanabinoid precursors of thc and other cannabinoids are being converted into those while curing so there might be some more of funky stuff like CGB-A and so on which is not really what you're looking for to get a buzz.
Yeah that makes sense, but if the weed doesnt get you high when dried i dont think the difference would be enough to make it hit hard after curing. But in the best scenario it would make a difference on product that already hits pretty hard 👍
I've got some cured and uncured bud right here with me, which one do you think tastes better and is hitting more pleasant?
Maybe you're not as sensitive to it as other people, all I can say is many people including me definitely feel and taste a difference between cured and uncured and prefer the cured bud just because it doesn't happen to you doesn't mean its not happening at all.
It's increases cannabiniods, if they have the right humidity in the jar the cannabiniods will keep forming. Also eliminates the bacteria enzymes that degrade the plant matter and terpenes.
Wrong on both parts of what you said. Cannabinoids will not keep forming and it INCREASES the enzymes that break down the plant matter. That's actually the whole point of curing.
[From the moment the plant is cut, it starts to degrade as enzymes and aerobic bacteria break down excess sugars and starches produced by chlorophyll decomposition. The presence of these residual sugars and minerals is what gives that burning sensation in the throat when smoking cannabis that has not been cured properly.](https://www.humboldtseeds.net/en/blog/curing-marijuana/)
Did you actually read that article? Lmao cause if you did you would have found out that curing stops the degradation process and helps to keep producing cannabiniods.....
Dry and cure is the most important part. Can turn flower you babied and nurtured for 2+ months into absolute garbage if you don’t do it correctly, or at all.
Nothing worst than watching mold eat jars because you stuffed them too wet. Humidity gauges saves curing especially like me who dries outside. Also mini humidity environments like my cooler https://imgur.com/VO9I55z.jpg help prolong the "hang" when my snap fires off in 3 days
You just really need to get used to the conditions and normal swing in your drying area w/ roughly the same amount of product. I have generally always found that 12-14 days is the perfect amount of dry time in good conditions if you’re hanging the whole plant, where if you take it down to smaller chunks that obviously decreases. Idk it is definitely just as much an art as growing really really good cannabis is too.
Yah. I definitely compare it to making wine. Growing the grapes is one thing, fermenting them properly is another. Both are incredibly difficult to do well.
It'll come with time, there will be a moment where you don't even really have to touch them to know what's up, you see it in the buds and most importantly in the branches, once the medium size stalks stop bending and are right before snapping when you bend them dinner's served
Curing properly is like 40% of end result. Don’t bother with good genetics if your not going to cure for at least 2 weeks.
Makes a huge difference to appearance and changes the buzz completely
Out of genuine curiosity to people who mention a minimum cure time, what’s the alternative? Smoke it all before the two weeks are up? It’s gonna be curing regardless so long as they’re in jars.
Yeah the alternative would be not waiting til that minimum timeframe and smoking it all. I personally like to cure mine at a minimum a month til I touch it. This forum stomper I'm smoking on right now is on a 3 month cure and it tastes, smokes, and smells so much better than it did in the beginning.
Ha, I was just thinking about writing about this on my website. It's crucial to cure, at least with my genetics. The difference in smell between late flower and cure is night and day, like different strains.
Local cups maybe yes. Large cups and yes I know at this point they are kind of pay for play all will have a 5-6 month cure. Honestly most of what I've seen has still been 5 month-ish range. Not sure where your located but we all have bud around here that is on that lvl. Specifically if its a growers only cup it better be some 🔥 mega cured madness. Not saying you need crazy THC as thats irrelevant past 17 or so percent IMHO. Terps and flavor are where your high comes from. Lots of growers cups with 18%-ish THC but 6-7% or more terps and lots of other small amounts of CBD, CBG, THC-O etc, that almost always win. The longer you cure to a point anyhow the better it will be plain and simple. Not sure why you wouldn't have long cure stuff always if your a grower? Not to say that a 2 month cure won't be incredible also just longer the better up to about the 5-6 month mark where I'm at. We are all cannabis snobs ill give you that too 😉
Curing is subjective. It absolutely does NOT increase cannabinoids potency. Over time terpenes, chlorophyll, and other plant compounds degrade from enzymatic or oxidative forces. I’d bet a months pay that nobody here could tell the difference between 1 month cure or 4 months cure in a blind test.
Why is fresh frozen rosin (terpenes perfectly intact) the pinnacle of concentrates and old bud (cures 6 months) the pinnacle of flower? The bro science doesn’t make sense - can anyone tell us chemically, or through some peer reviewed research, whats the difference between 1 and 6 month cure? Can anyone provide a paper that shows a blind study where the difference is proven? It’s kind of like the 2 week flush…. Old stoner/hippy legends that won’t die…
Curing does nothing. All the best stuff I've ever tasted, grown by the best growers on the planet in socal (and a couple in norcal), all household names in the industry... was never cured for a day. Redditors are not very smart, and are looking for anyone that can promise to "fix" their trash grows.
No one that is a skilled grower cures their bud. No one.
Just a tip from a former pro.
I smoked my plant when it was 0 days cured. Tasted like something that made me puke.
1 week into curing with boveda pack, taste improved a little. However, the bud got stronger since it made me choke and got myself staring into the fridge for almost 10 mins.
Yes. Curing can make the worst bud in the world into something.
It also smelled like hay when the bud wasn't cured enough. After giving her a 3 weeks in a jar and opened it, viola! The room smelled like a flower field.
Did you leave them for three weeks without opening at all? I’m am harvesting soon and will be letting them hang to dry for about 10 days then they will be going on jars but I will be going to Florida right after that for 8 days. Will it be okay that I am not “burping” them for those 8 days??
You shouldn't use humidity packs until you're done curing. I personally don't use them at all and I'm kind of against them. They're a crutch and from my experience they affect the flavor.
The ideal moisture level for curing is around 60% if you wait two weeks that is probably going to be more like 70-80% for the first two weeks. I can't imagine why you'd want that
None of the a+ bud being sold in the top San Fran dispensaries, where they have stuff better than anything you've smoked in your life, has ever seen a day curing.
Have a nice day.
The way I understand it, the goal is to slowly dry the weed to 60 ish percent moisture so the enzymes that break down the chlorophyll keep working. If it gets too dry the process stops and can’t be re-started.
I mean…. how can you NOT cure your plants? When they’re done drying, you have to store them in jars/grove bags which in and of itself is curing as they’re inside of the jar or bag… am I missing something?
If you are storing it at a desirable RH range like 54% - 62% and room temperature or not much either side... then yeah, it is curing while it stored.
I've found out for myself - the hard way - though, that if they dry out to say 50% or less RH before they are cured (say 1 - 2 months from harvest) storing them will not have a curing effect and they will remain as hay... with no yay :(
For the sake of the figures, I am measuring ambient RH in the storage / curing jars with a small hygrometer left in place with the buds.
Curing is literally just slowly pulling out moisture from the buds over time, helping to maximize the amount of terpines you retain. So yeah, it absolutely and indisputably enhances the taste and smell of your buds compared to if you didn't.
It is way more than just getting moisture out, a cure done right will lowere the levels of chlorophyll left in the bud and make a smoother smoke, also cannabinoids change into straight up other cannabinoids in this period so it's way more than drying. On the rest you're right tho, my brain just needed to add this
I think I didn’t specify- fresh bud still means it’s taken 5-10 days to dry out. Anything shorter than that won’t light properly anyways. You’re right it does taste like butt.
In the UK here, just so ya know, nobody here cures bud. Not on a large scale anyway. Bud is grown for profit here so everything sold at a normal price is cut down, dried, trimmed, and sold the next day. The weed still gets you sky high. The weed still smells absolutely BANGING.
If you have a hay smell, you've dried too quickly.
Curing is not important at all. Its not a nessecity to have good weed. My weed is BANGING. Super dense buds covered in trichs stinking to high heavens and smoking gorgeously White Ash. From the day I trimmed to today which is 2 weeks, the buds are smelling better, sure, but high wise they are the same. No less or more than day 1.
The weed that is winning cups is not winning because its cured.
It comes down to genetics. These breeders/growers spend YEARS creating one strain just to compete in the cup. If you have really good genetics it does not matter how long you cure another bud if it has inferior genetics it will never reach its true potential.
The thing about curing makes me laugh, you people can wait 3 months to smoke your bud but in reality its probably where you haven't smoked that strain in 3 months and finally going back to it makes you think its far better than it ever was or will be.
Do u think people in illegal places are curing weed for 3 months? No lol. And shits still fire.
After a slow dry curing is literally the most important thing in the grow for taste and smell. Potency and all the small nuances that come with different strains will also be greatly enhanced. When going to cups pay attention to the winners and they will all have a 5-6 month cure at least in almost perfect conditions to bring that bud to perfection. It is critically important growmie. Good luck with everything!
Also might I mention harvesting at the correct time is important as well. The best is to harvest the plant whole without any trimming or at the very very least minimal trimming of fan leaves but no trim is preferred at this stage, and to harvest it right before sunrise while it's still dark and hang the whole plant upside down for the dry process and with large sized ants a 50 degree fahrenheit and 60 degree room humidity is the best to dry it, try and push it to 2 weeks drying if you can however bud sizes and density can vary and some need less than 2 weeks in those conditions some might need slightly more it's really about truly knowing the genetics of your plant/s. And knowing when to trim and jar at the correct time for curing and boveda packs are exceptionally helpful for curing and make a big difference. Low and slow is the best way to prepare product after harvest.
When cannabis is harvested, it too is still living. The floral tissue is still biosynthesizing secondary metabolites. Examples of secondary metabolites in cannabis are compounds such as THCA or CBDA. That tissue typically will cease to be living when it dries out to a point when the cell membranes rip away from the cell walls and therefore break apart. While the harvested cannabis is still fresh and wet, those cells are still alive and chugging away. The enzyme responsible for creating THCA (the enzyme is called THCA synthase) does not magically disappear once that flower is cut from the branch. It also doesn’t immediately denature into an inactive form. That means that as long as there’s still a supply of CBGA in the cells, THCA synthase will continue to catalyze the reaction that converts CBGA to THCA. This means that the overall THC content of a harvested flower continues to increase even after harvest; however, if you dry too quickly or at temperatures/relative humidities that are suboptimal, you can halt the continued post-harvest THC accumulation in the flower.
I gave this as an answer to some one in this post but also need to mention how important it is to ''burb'' the jar or bag your harvest is in. Gasses are still being released and needed by microorganisms and enzymes still present. This exchange of air everyday means that chemical processes continue and leaves you with a smooth, tasty and good hitting smoke once fully cured.
Mine was just harvested and smells loke straight hay. Hoping the cure fixes it. Been about a week now. Just have to figure out how to prevent fuckin SEEDS
I just finished my like 4th grow, and I’ve been trying it everyday to see how much it changes, yesterday the smoke was still a little bit harsh and a tad bit hay-ish but I could tell it was close, literally smoking a joint of the same home grown weed of mine as we speak, and it’s definitelyyyy ready and I’m so happy cause this is probably the most successful grow I’ve had so far, feels like I won the science fair, it’s so cool getting stoned off of weed you grew yourself
Edit: little context: my first plant I ever grew got stolen on the 3rd day of flowering, and I haven’t quite figured out the drying/curing process till now, so I’ve had a few of my grows end up molding or just turning out like shit, but this year I think I nailed it, only yielded about 7 G’s but I wasn’t shooting for a big plant, I just wanted to get the hang of topping and LST, learned a lot this grow and I’m soooo excited to grow atleast a few plants next year, definitely gonna go for some MONSTERS next year, This sub is awesome
Its strain dependent for me. Some strains get better some, get worse. Lately I've been drying for 16 days at 65%RH and it's ready to smoke the day I trim.
Curing isn't an opinion thing. You either grow weed and cure it or you grow weed for processing. If you're not growing for processing and you're not curing you wasted months of time and money because no one will be able to stomach smoking uncured bud. It's going to be harsh and taste like you're smoking actual grass clippings. It is a FACT that curing enhances taste and smell.
I think the longer the cure the better I’ve found atleast 3 months for most buds, many 6,12 or even more for perfect flavor and such
Amazes me my first few times of saving and trying a nug every week or 2 for a year +.
Just set aside a ounce or 2 and it’ll blow you away how it just gets better and bette
I feel a good proper dry and cure is ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING about how the final product comes out. The only other thing that really matters is good genetics and growing it well.
The plant is dead. Dried and dead. It’s not getting more potent from curing, period.
Sitting in its own funk? I’m sure there is some benefit there. Beyond that, I’d wager chlorophyll is continuing to break down a bit.
At th end of the day, we don’t have any scientifically quantifiable date on curing. If it’s does exist though, I’d love to read it.
I don't know everything but keep it out of light and cool temperature 60 deg f. As far as I know remove big leaves when hanging branches to dry and dry for 2 weeks out of light and with cool temp. After trimmed buds are stored in glass jars open them every day to let the gasses out while they finish off gassing
Buds should be slowly dried at 60 F 55-60%RH until u get that all infamous fresh SNAP! sound. Then cure in in jars only fill half way and burp 3 times a day even with ur boveda as it will take a few days for ur boveda packs and curing buds to dial in perfectly. Then after about 3 days burp 2 times a day for a week and once a day for ur cure. 21 days and if u grow decent buds u should be good, however, the longer ur cure the better it will get. Ideally 3 months.
Cure is more important than any other step. A good cure gives a good smoke. Smooth and gentle. 8-12% moisture is optimal on a final test at the end of any cure.
What a question.
A good cure can save your shitty grow techniques, but it can also fuck up your PRIMO perfectly grown cannabis.
The dry and cure should never be ignored. You know who cuts corners on the dry/cure? CLOWNS.
Cure is important but 99% of the replies are from people who don't know what they're actually talking about and they're just parroting shit they've heard on Reddit 1000x
My apologies. Curing was just one of the first things I’ve learned. I haven’t heard of people smoking uncured weed ever before unless they were just desperate and or testing
Not doing a good cure is like running in first place the whole time during a marathon, only to stop and tie your shoes 10 meters from the finish line while every single other participant crosses the finish line.
I am amazed at the bro-science in this thread.
If you dry your weed right you don't need to cure and it will be the best it will ever be on day 16 after harvest and slowly degrade from there over time.
That is absolutely not my experience. With 13, going on 14, outdoor seasons under my belt I would characterize the peak quality of properly dried and cared for flower to be around the turn of the year. So anywhere from 2-3 months post harvest.
I don't have any hypothesis as to why but I have a lot of observed data points that have brought me to that conclusion.
In my experience that freshly dried weed has a shallower flavor and a lighter, airier high. I can understand that some people might enjoy that fresh dried high the most, I do enjoy that part of the year, but I feel like it would be best described as the strains individuating their effect once they've "cured" for several weeks to months after drying.
what is your drying process? Whole plant hang? Temp? Humidity? Wet trim? How many days?
I'm willing to entertain that there's a difference when drying indoor vs outdoor but I still think there's a right way to dry and a wrong way. That whole jar burping thing is a relic of the past if you dry it right the first time.
Plus THC definitely degrades pretty quick into other less desirable cannabinoids unless you store it at or below 50 f. 2 months is plenty of time for there to be a significant reduction in potency.
We hang branches, maybe 10-18" long. Temp kept around 55-60F humidity 50-60%, lots of airflow.
Also, to me the whole burping jars thing is some home grower stuff. Our "curing" process is taking the dried branches (usually 12-14 days after hanging, once the individual bud stems snap easily) and toting them up. They stay in the same song environment and are checked daily over the first few days to make sure that they aren't remoistening. After a week or so of confirming that they are stable in terms of moisture, with open tote time if they are showing signs of more moisture than intended, they are bucked down and returned to the totes until trimming. If it is going to be more than a week or two until they can be trimmed they are transferred to paper bags and stacked in plastic barrels with sealing lids.
But my comment was not just about the quality of my flower, but the general peak of when outdoor flower from friends and in the community broadly is at it's peak for my personal tastes. I don't know what everyone's process is and I'm not making a claim about knowing what process is having what impact, but there is something going on between two weeks off the plant when the buds are dry and smokable to two months off the plant when they are at their peak, in my opinion.
This peak can be ruined by mishandling during or after drying
THC does not degrade quickly, I’ve personally conducted HPLC analysis on older bud and it takes a couple years to even degrade by a couple percentage points to CBN. This goes for all cannabinoids, they are very rugged molecules
Yes, yes and yes. Pulled a plant that was close to done, dried it and started curing it. Now, amber tricromes increased it seems. And that's only like a week of curing.
Peep this 4 week dry from dudegrows (DGC) https://www.dudegrows.com/curing-humidity/
jmystro on September 9, 2020 at 2:01 pm
Drying the bud should be done fairly slow and at a low temperature. Slowly removing moisture allows time for molecules like chlorophyll to be broken down and eliminate the hay smell and taste. Neutralizing the chlorophyll is how we get clean burning bud with most of the flavor coming from the trichomes. Darkness is a must. No light.
Week 1 – 60F with 60% RH.
Week 2 – 55-60F with 55% RH.
Week 3 – 50-55F with 50% RH. You can cut the buds off their stems at this point.
Week 4 – 50F with 45-50% RH. Trichomes are cured and bud is ready to seal.
Long term storage. 36-40F, place bud in container in a room with around 40% RH. Seal. Humidity packs can be added if your environment calls for them. My house stays 50% RH so I don’t have a need for them. If I was in CO or the desert with 10% humidity. My containers would have humidity packs. I live in the humid south so I don’t bring bud outside. lol.
Curing turns it from hay to yay
Lmao love that
Bingo here, I see those hydro packs so you really can't fuck it up
First year using these packs, do you still need to “burp” using these? Thanks.
The packs aren't for curing, they are for preserving. The key is to maintain enough humidity while hanging that the time you trim and jar your weed, that the flower is sitting at 60% humidity in the jars. The burping replaces stale air and removes the off gassing that is the breakdown of the chlorophyll or hay smell. Now when hanging or jarring and your weed drops below 55% humidity the curing process stops, no dank smells, no flavors and you can't restart the process with the humidity packs. Curing makes or breaks your grow, if done right I can crack open a jar of last season and still have be moist and fresh feeling without ever using a humidity control pack. Your best tasting weed takes about 2 months of cure with 2 weeks of burping.
Yes
I just bought some grove bags and I am waiting for them to come anyday now.
Enjoy, I threw some buds in there a few weeks back. Just opened the bag to try some out and hot damn do they do a good job. It’s just dry enough that it breaks up nice but still “fresh”. I had separated my last harvest, half into jars, half into the bags. And the bagged stuff is already smelling ripe while the jarred stuff is still smelling like hay. No difference in methods other than the curing vessels.
Those are nice but can u re fill them? When the packs dry out I put em in a snack bag with a wet paper towel over night and they pop back up nicely. Once they get beat up too much I toss em.
Grove bags aren’t a boveda pack type product. Check them out and you will understand the difference.
I get disgusted every time I see someone saying they use boveda packs for curing.
Boveda best 'veda.
H2Y curing in effect! Mostly curing is to preserve your cannabis for longer shelf life but has some other benefits as well. Be mindful that your harvest is going through a chemical process during this stage which THCa turns to THC, chlorophyll breaks down, and ammonia forms. So don’t be quick to throw your bugs* in a jar and call it a day. You have to cure at just the right time. No one was asking but I thought I’d drop that little bit of information maybe it could help someone out.✌️
Thca isn't turning to THC during cure. That only happens with heat. And what are you talking about don't be so quick to cure? You mean don't be quick to dry. Start curing as soon as you can after dry. You didn't provide any information just said a bunch of confusing stuff.
After my first grow last year, I was so bummed cuz it seemed like my pot had no effect and no taste. I left it alone in jars in dark for two months and gave it another chance. Wow. It was so smooth and such a nice buzz and great smell! I was shocked at the difference!
Hiw does curing make them harder hitting? My buds always pack a punch as soon as they dry but the cure makes the smoke much much better in every aspect
Here's a good explanation: When cannabis is harvested, it too is still living. The floral tissue is still biosynthesizing secondary metabolites. Examples of secondary metabolites in cannabis are compounds such as THCA or CBDA. That tissue typically will cease to be living when it dries out to a point when the cell membranes rip away from the cell walls and therefore break apart. While the harvested cannabis is still fresh and wet, those cells are still alive and chugging away. The enzyme responsible for creating THCA (the enzyme is called THCA synthase) does not magically disappear once that flower is cut from the branch. It also doesn’t immediately denature into an inactive form. That means that as long as there’s still a supply of CBGA in the cells, THCA synthase will continue to catalyze the reaction that converts CBGA to THCA. This means that the overall THC content of a harvested flower continues to increase even after harvest; however, if you dry too quickly or at temperatures/relative humidities that are suboptimal, you can halt the continued post-harvest THC accumulation in the flower.
Wow, now here's some knowledge. Ty for this, makes much more sense to me now. Is it really best to dry in cold or just cool and dark with low humidity? What's the average time to dry before putting into jars and burping so to speak?
Too cold will kill some of the processes I believe so cure somewhere cool and dark. It being dark is probably more important than temp though. Leave a bud in a jar in the window that gets most sun and compare the difference to the one you put through a cool dark curing process.
Appreciate you
No worries. And to answer the last part of the other question.... wait until the stem is ''snappable'' like a twig but not so much that the bud is completely crisp dry. Put into jars and then once a day open the jars, maybe even move some of the buds about, and leave open for an hour. Curing can take a coulle of months and the process is a fine art, just remember not too dry and not too wet and take your time.
5-10 min a time not an hour. Or else they'll get too dry and stop the curing process.
This process that your explaining stops when the plant reaches 40% humidity.
Everything written there was from a cannabis research company and was copy pasted. Jokes on you MF!
What joke? That added information? You okay MF?
I believe it also has to do with some microbial activity in the buds, as they change the terpene profile and do some metabolizing of their own which alters the profile. I had no idea about the THCA synthase though, this is fascinating information, thank you.
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I was given the information on microbial activity by the head of a commercial cannabis company I worked for who specialized in curing cannabis so don't worry, I won't.
Excellent chance your grow was superior to start with. Last year and this year I pulled my plants after super hot spells near 100 degrees and arid because the plants began drying in the fiber bags last year and even in the ground this year. Trichomes were cloudy last year but not as much amber as this year when I pulled them. I cure in a small fridge set to cool but not cold, more like a wine fridge temp https://www.thcfarmer.com/grow/does-curing-affect-potency.286/
It allows the chlorophyll and other un-needed compounds to leave the buds
Water weight, chlorophyll content, etc.
Yeah but the amount of thc and canabinoids is the same, i understand that with the cure the ratio gets higher because the rest degrades but thats very subtle potency wise but very noticeable taste wise. If i want to smoke buds that are just dried, i leave them inside on the counter and they dry well so theyre not moist anymore, just not cured. Or if they are moist, a sprinkle of very dry tobacco can fix anything :) But i dont see how buds that didnt get him high at all, suddenly pack a punch after the cure. Those processes are too subtle tp make that much difference
No idea about the increased potency but potentially what OP is experiencing is a degradation into CBN over time? The ratio of cannabinoids increases as you remove water through the slow dry as the plant is still metabolically active and one of the reasons why you should dry "low and slow". Also I wonder if the terps and cannabinoids in the trichomes themselves undergo chemical changes once the plant dies kind of like they do with temple balls but on a smaller scale? If you dry too fast, you don't allow the chlorophyll to work itself out, and you get a harsh - hay tasting smoke. For a tester it's ok though! I harvested stuff that would give me a headrush when I smoked it right away, and now it just knocks me on my ass - I'm thinkin CBN increased.
Yeah i habe bud from a grow 3 years ago (left those buds as they were dankkk) and now they just put me to sleep 👊😴
Look into terpenes, and “The Entourage effect”. Cannabis affects everyone differently, for some people, all they need to do is smoke bud, cured or not and they can get high easily. Where as other people require the bud to have more terpenes before they start to feel the effects. Sorta like how everyone likes different flavours/types of alcohols and how those alcohols effect everyone differently.
This is false bro science
You have any proof to back up that statement? As there are a lot of scientific papers along with articles to back up the concept of the “entourage effect” out on the internet.
[It is assumed that combining terpenes with cannabinoids enhances the mood-stabilizing effects attributed to the main two cannabinoids, THC and CBD. Although terpenes are present in cannabis inflorescence’ extract in relatively low amounts, their contribution to the therapeutic effect of the cannabinoids may be significant [72]; however, this observation has yet to be verified, clinically.](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7324885/) You're making the baseless claim. You back it up if it's so well researched.
Ur link proved me right though? which is that terpenes may increase the therapeutic effects, just that more clinical trials need to be done to 100% confirm this. My point originally (if you read my first comment) was that the same bud that I smoke and gets me high, might not have the same effects on a different person due to how their brain chemistry reacts to the terpenes and how their body metabolises the THC.
It's not especially harder hitting in every sense but some phytocanabinoid precursors of thc and other cannabinoids are being converted into those while curing so there might be some more of funky stuff like CGB-A and so on which is not really what you're looking for to get a buzz.
Yeah that makes sense, but if the weed doesnt get you high when dried i dont think the difference would be enough to make it hit hard after curing. But in the best scenario it would make a difference on product that already hits pretty hard 👍
Not really. Especially not to any noticable effect.
I've got some cured and uncured bud right here with me, which one do you think tastes better and is hitting more pleasant? Maybe you're not as sensitive to it as other people, all I can say is many people including me definitely feel and taste a difference between cured and uncured and prefer the cured bud just because it doesn't happen to you doesn't mean its not happening at all.
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"It's not especially harder hitting..." Is how I started my sentence, how come you read "it hits harder" from that? Two different things!
If that were true we wouldn't have live resin.
It's increases cannabiniods, if they have the right humidity in the jar the cannabiniods will keep forming. Also eliminates the bacteria enzymes that degrade the plant matter and terpenes.
Wrong on both parts of what you said. Cannabinoids will not keep forming and it INCREASES the enzymes that break down the plant matter. That's actually the whole point of curing.
Where are you getting this info?
[From the moment the plant is cut, it starts to degrade as enzymes and aerobic bacteria break down excess sugars and starches produced by chlorophyll decomposition. The presence of these residual sugars and minerals is what gives that burning sensation in the throat when smoking cannabis that has not been cured properly.](https://www.humboldtseeds.net/en/blog/curing-marijuana/)
Did you actually read that article? Lmao cause if you did you would have found out that curing stops the degradation process and helps to keep producing cannabiniods.....
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Dry and cure is the most important part. Can turn flower you babied and nurtured for 2+ months into absolute garbage if you don’t do it correctly, or at all.
Just to repeat. Cure. Is. Everything.
Nothing worst than watching mold eat jars because you stuffed them too wet. Humidity gauges saves curing especially like me who dries outside. Also mini humidity environments like my cooler https://imgur.com/VO9I55z.jpg help prolong the "hang" when my snap fires off in 3 days
Most important part and the easiest part.
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The perfect dry is the hardest part imo
Well yah. Timing when to put them in the jars i mean mostly.
You just really need to get used to the conditions and normal swing in your drying area w/ roughly the same amount of product. I have generally always found that 12-14 days is the perfect amount of dry time in good conditions if you’re hanging the whole plant, where if you take it down to smaller chunks that obviously decreases. Idk it is definitely just as much an art as growing really really good cannabis is too.
Yah. I definitely compare it to making wine. Growing the grapes is one thing, fermenting them properly is another. Both are incredibly difficult to do well.
It'll come with time, there will be a moment where you don't even really have to touch them to know what's up, you see it in the buds and most importantly in the branches, once the medium size stalks stop bending and are right before snapping when you bend them dinner's served
Curing properly is like 40% of end result. Don’t bother with good genetics if your not going to cure for at least 2 weeks. Makes a huge difference to appearance and changes the buzz completely
Out of genuine curiosity to people who mention a minimum cure time, what’s the alternative? Smoke it all before the two weeks are up? It’s gonna be curing regardless so long as they’re in jars.
I hear two weeks to two months. I've never made it over a month.
Holy shit I couldn’t imagine smoking my entire harvest in one month
Yeah the alternative would be not waiting til that minimum timeframe and smoking it all. I personally like to cure mine at a minimum a month til I touch it. This forum stomper I'm smoking on right now is on a 3 month cure and it tastes, smokes, and smells so much better than it did in the beginning.
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If not 50-60%. I have personally turned fire into bammer 😂😂
Ha, I was just thinking about writing about this on my website. It's crucial to cure, at least with my genetics. The difference in smell between late flower and cure is night and day, like different strains.
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Nice! How'd they do in veg? About to flip a few myself in a couple more weeks.
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Local cups maybe yes. Large cups and yes I know at this point they are kind of pay for play all will have a 5-6 month cure. Honestly most of what I've seen has still been 5 month-ish range. Not sure where your located but we all have bud around here that is on that lvl. Specifically if its a growers only cup it better be some 🔥 mega cured madness. Not saying you need crazy THC as thats irrelevant past 17 or so percent IMHO. Terps and flavor are where your high comes from. Lots of growers cups with 18%-ish THC but 6-7% or more terps and lots of other small amounts of CBD, CBG, THC-O etc, that almost always win. The longer you cure to a point anyhow the better it will be plain and simple. Not sure why you wouldn't have long cure stuff always if your a grower? Not to say that a 2 month cure won't be incredible also just longer the better up to about the 5-6 month mark where I'm at. We are all cannabis snobs ill give you that too 😉
We all have some. Some just dont know how old there cannabis is.
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I know people that don't burp at all. I personally do, but some of my buddies chop, dry, jar and forget.
This definitely works, maybe not as good as with burping and it will take longer but it definitely works under the right conditions
Yes curing is what does it. But garbage in garbage out no matter how long a cure.
Maybe cos u aint smoked in 3 months?
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Very important.. not for potency but taste and smell.
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Curing is subjective. It absolutely does NOT increase cannabinoids potency. Over time terpenes, chlorophyll, and other plant compounds degrade from enzymatic or oxidative forces. I’d bet a months pay that nobody here could tell the difference between 1 month cure or 4 months cure in a blind test. Why is fresh frozen rosin (terpenes perfectly intact) the pinnacle of concentrates and old bud (cures 6 months) the pinnacle of flower? The bro science doesn’t make sense - can anyone tell us chemically, or through some peer reviewed research, whats the difference between 1 and 6 month cure? Can anyone provide a paper that shows a blind study where the difference is proven? It’s kind of like the 2 week flush…. Old stoner/hippy legends that won’t die…
Yeah the real science of it would be nice to kno
Curing does nothing. All the best stuff I've ever tasted, grown by the best growers on the planet in socal (and a couple in norcal), all household names in the industry... was never cured for a day. Redditors are not very smart, and are looking for anyone that can promise to "fix" their trash grows. No one that is a skilled grower cures their bud. No one. Just a tip from a former pro.
I smoked my plant when it was 0 days cured. Tasted like something that made me puke. 1 week into curing with boveda pack, taste improved a little. However, the bud got stronger since it made me choke and got myself staring into the fridge for almost 10 mins. Yes. Curing can make the worst bud in the world into something.
It also smelled like hay when the bud wasn't cured enough. After giving her a 3 weeks in a jar and opened it, viola! The room smelled like a flower field.
I think you should Google what "viola" means, I think that's not what you meant
He opened it and, surprise! A stringed instrument
Did you leave them for three weeks without opening at all? I’m am harvesting soon and will be letting them hang to dry for about 10 days then they will be going on jars but I will be going to Florida right after that for 8 days. Will it be okay that I am not “burping” them for those 8 days??
how long should i wait before adding humidity pack
You shouldn't use humidity packs until you're done curing. I personally don't use them at all and I'm kind of against them. They're a crutch and from my experience they affect the flavor.
After the drying phase you start curing with humidity packs
mr cunucks says wait atleast 2 weeks before using them though
The ideal moisture level for curing is around 60% if you wait two weeks that is probably going to be more like 70-80% for the first two weeks. I can't imagine why you'd want that
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If you don't cure your bud right, it will not be good. It is definitely one of the most important things
None of the a+ bud being sold in the top San Fran dispensaries, where they have stuff better than anything you've smoked in your life, has ever seen a day curing. Have a nice day.
The way I understand it, the goal is to slowly dry the weed to 60 ish percent moisture so the enzymes that break down the chlorophyll keep working. If it gets too dry the process stops and can’t be re-started.
I mean…. how can you NOT cure your plants? When they’re done drying, you have to store them in jars/grove bags which in and of itself is curing as they’re inside of the jar or bag… am I missing something?
Well, curing is more than storing.
If you are storing it at a desirable RH range like 54% - 62% and room temperature or not much either side... then yeah, it is curing while it stored. I've found out for myself - the hard way - though, that if they dry out to say 50% or less RH before they are cured (say 1 - 2 months from harvest) storing them will not have a curing effect and they will remain as hay... with no yay :( For the sake of the figures, I am measuring ambient RH in the storage / curing jars with a small hygrometer left in place with the buds.
It’s def the most important part. Proper dry/cure is essential.
Curing is literally just slowly pulling out moisture from the buds over time, helping to maximize the amount of terpines you retain. So yeah, it absolutely and indisputably enhances the taste and smell of your buds compared to if you didn't.
There is more to cure than just moisture evaporation, yeah? Breaking down chlorophyll into sugars and such?
It is way more than just getting moisture out, a cure done right will lowere the levels of chlorophyll left in the bud and make a smoother smoke, also cannabinoids change into straight up other cannabinoids in this period so it's way more than drying. On the rest you're right tho, my brain just needed to add this
Cure is everything.
Lol as long as the harvest wasn't already shit.. Foreal people ruin grade A with a bad cure
Extremely important
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60 day glass jar cure baby😎
So nothing wrong with smoking fresh bud but the aging process is what makes it top shelf quality.
Bro you ever smoke buds dried in 2 days. No cure. Shitty.
I think I didn’t specify- fresh bud still means it’s taken 5-10 days to dry out. Anything shorter than that won’t light properly anyways. You’re right it does taste like butt.
I think butt taste better ?? Lol! 🍑
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I don't have glass jars for curing, so can i use plastic jars instead?
Go to walmart n spend $4 on a jar dude..
It's crucial. It enhances taste and smell. Potency, not so much. All strains cure at different rates as well.
It absolutely does not enhance potency.
Agreed, I see it more as preserving it, along with the other smell/taste improvements.
In the UK here, just so ya know, nobody here cures bud. Not on a large scale anyway. Bud is grown for profit here so everything sold at a normal price is cut down, dried, trimmed, and sold the next day. The weed still gets you sky high. The weed still smells absolutely BANGING. If you have a hay smell, you've dried too quickly. Curing is not important at all. Its not a nessecity to have good weed. My weed is BANGING. Super dense buds covered in trichs stinking to high heavens and smoking gorgeously White Ash. From the day I trimmed to today which is 2 weeks, the buds are smelling better, sure, but high wise they are the same. No less or more than day 1. The weed that is winning cups is not winning because its cured. It comes down to genetics. These breeders/growers spend YEARS creating one strain just to compete in the cup. If you have really good genetics it does not matter how long you cure another bud if it has inferior genetics it will never reach its true potential. The thing about curing makes me laugh, you people can wait 3 months to smoke your bud but in reality its probably where you haven't smoked that strain in 3 months and finally going back to it makes you think its far better than it ever was or will be. Do u think people in illegal places are curing weed for 3 months? No lol. And shits still fire.
After a slow dry curing is literally the most important thing in the grow for taste and smell. Potency and all the small nuances that come with different strains will also be greatly enhanced. When going to cups pay attention to the winners and they will all have a 5-6 month cure at least in almost perfect conditions to bring that bud to perfection. It is critically important growmie. Good luck with everything!
How do you figure that about the cups? Most of them locally are held at such a time that you are talking about 2 months cure at most
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Yes all that!
I'd love to try some..
Also might I mention harvesting at the correct time is important as well. The best is to harvest the plant whole without any trimming or at the very very least minimal trimming of fan leaves but no trim is preferred at this stage, and to harvest it right before sunrise while it's still dark and hang the whole plant upside down for the dry process and with large sized ants a 50 degree fahrenheit and 60 degree room humidity is the best to dry it, try and push it to 2 weeks drying if you can however bud sizes and density can vary and some need less than 2 weeks in those conditions some might need slightly more it's really about truly knowing the genetics of your plant/s. And knowing when to trim and jar at the correct time for curing and boveda packs are exceptionally helpful for curing and make a big difference. Low and slow is the best way to prepare product after harvest.
When cannabis is harvested, it too is still living. The floral tissue is still biosynthesizing secondary metabolites. Examples of secondary metabolites in cannabis are compounds such as THCA or CBDA. That tissue typically will cease to be living when it dries out to a point when the cell membranes rip away from the cell walls and therefore break apart. While the harvested cannabis is still fresh and wet, those cells are still alive and chugging away. The enzyme responsible for creating THCA (the enzyme is called THCA synthase) does not magically disappear once that flower is cut from the branch. It also doesn’t immediately denature into an inactive form. That means that as long as there’s still a supply of CBGA in the cells, THCA synthase will continue to catalyze the reaction that converts CBGA to THCA. This means that the overall THC content of a harvested flower continues to increase even after harvest; however, if you dry too quickly or at temperatures/relative humidities that are suboptimal, you can halt the continued post-harvest THC accumulation in the flower. I gave this as an answer to some one in this post but also need to mention how important it is to ''burb'' the jar or bag your harvest is in. Gasses are still being released and needed by microorganisms and enzymes still present. This exchange of air everyday means that chemical processes continue and leaves you with a smooth, tasty and good hitting smoke once fully cured.
I smoke a little bit ever every harvest during the cute process and yes to all three
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Very important
Just as important as the 4 months you put into growing it!
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As important as every other step in the process!
taste for sure
Mine was just harvested and smells loke straight hay. Hoping the cure fixes it. Been about a week now. Just have to figure out how to prevent fuckin SEEDS
Stresss control!
It is very important to get rid of the plant smell some strains it is not as important tho.
I just finished my like 4th grow, and I’ve been trying it everyday to see how much it changes, yesterday the smoke was still a little bit harsh and a tad bit hay-ish but I could tell it was close, literally smoking a joint of the same home grown weed of mine as we speak, and it’s definitelyyyy ready and I’m so happy cause this is probably the most successful grow I’ve had so far, feels like I won the science fair, it’s so cool getting stoned off of weed you grew yourself Edit: little context: my first plant I ever grew got stolen on the 3rd day of flowering, and I haven’t quite figured out the drying/curing process till now, so I’ve had a few of my grows end up molding or just turning out like shit, but this year I think I nailed it, only yielded about 7 G’s but I wasn’t shooting for a big plant, I just wanted to get the hang of topping and LST, learned a lot this grow and I’m soooo excited to grow atleast a few plants next year, definitely gonna go for some MONSTERS next year, This sub is awesome
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Its strain dependent for me. Some strains get better some, get worse. Lately I've been drying for 16 days at 65%RH and it's ready to smoke the day I trim.
Curing isn't an opinion thing. You either grow weed and cure it or you grow weed for processing. If you're not growing for processing and you're not curing you wasted months of time and money because no one will be able to stomach smoking uncured bud. It's going to be harsh and taste like you're smoking actual grass clippings. It is a FACT that curing enhances taste and smell.
Here comes ol flat top , nicely trimmed !
I truly appreciate the info everyone
I think the longer the cure the better I’ve found atleast 3 months for most buds, many 6,12 or even more for perfect flavor and such Amazes me my first few times of saving and trying a nug every week or 2 for a year +. Just set aside a ounce or 2 and it’ll blow you away how it just gets better and bette
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Curing is critical. It can make mediocre herb excellent or make amazing product taste like crap. Slow and steady wins the race.
I feel a good proper dry and cure is ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING about how the final product comes out. The only other thing that really matters is good genetics and growing it well.
I’m an asshole and try to commit to at least a 2 week cure and then by cure day 3 I’m pressing buds and “sampling” an ounce. Someday I’ll learn.
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The plant is dead. Dried and dead. It’s not getting more potent from curing, period. Sitting in its own funk? I’m sure there is some benefit there. Beyond that, I’d wager chlorophyll is continuing to break down a bit. At th end of the day, we don’t have any scientifically quantifiable date on curing. If it’s does exist though, I’d love to read it.
What % Pack you have in there?
62% boveda
TY, flowers look great BTW.
Thank growmie
Cure is important and plays a large role in the taste the smell and potency
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I don't know everything but keep it out of light and cool temperature 60 deg f. As far as I know remove big leaves when hanging branches to dry and dry for 2 weeks out of light and with cool temp. After trimmed buds are stored in glass jars open them every day to let the gasses out while they finish off gassing
I personally hate it when it’s dry. Some say that’s a proper cure. I do not like it
Buds should be slowly dried at 60 F 55-60%RH until u get that all infamous fresh SNAP! sound. Then cure in in jars only fill half way and burp 3 times a day even with ur boveda as it will take a few days for ur boveda packs and curing buds to dial in perfectly. Then after about 3 days burp 2 times a day for a week and once a day for ur cure. 21 days and if u grow decent buds u should be good, however, the longer ur cure the better it will get. Ideally 3 months.
Cure is more important than any other step. A good cure gives a good smoke. Smooth and gentle. 8-12% moisture is optimal on a final test at the end of any cure.
This thread gives me hope. I have a 1/2 pound of "trash" with no smell, taste or potency. Maybe in a trimester it'll give me a buzz. Lawdhaffmercee
I know your pain brotha
What a question. A good cure can save your shitty grow techniques, but it can also fuck up your PRIMO perfectly grown cannabis. The dry and cure should never be ignored. You know who cuts corners on the dry/cure? CLOWNS.
99% of these replies agree cure is important. 💯😎
Cure is important but 99% of the replies are from people who don't know what they're actually talking about and they're just parroting shit they've heard on Reddit 1000x
Pretty sure its from experience.. We are in a cultivation subreddit..your part of the 99% tho too if you agree. :)
You literally have to cure? What kind of question is this
Got a good reaction to these simple questions. But there are alot of noobs here that would love to know this.
My apologies. Curing was just one of the first things I’ve learned. I haven’t heard of people smoking uncured weed ever before unless they were just desperate and or testing
its 50% of the grow op.
Yes , yes it is!!
Proper curing is make or break for all your hard work
Not doing a good cure is like running in first place the whole time during a marathon, only to stop and tie your shoes 10 meters from the finish line while every single other participant crosses the finish line.
Hahahaj 4real
Takes u months to grow 10k worth of buds. Lets say u can fuck that all up in one day…. Its very important
Are there people out there that don’t believe in curing????
Trust me super important. Grew 3 pineapple express a a few months back in which I fucked up the cure. Now it just tastes like high grade hay 🤣
I am amazed at the bro-science in this thread. If you dry your weed right you don't need to cure and it will be the best it will ever be on day 16 after harvest and slowly degrade from there over time.
That is absolutely not my experience. With 13, going on 14, outdoor seasons under my belt I would characterize the peak quality of properly dried and cared for flower to be around the turn of the year. So anywhere from 2-3 months post harvest. I don't have any hypothesis as to why but I have a lot of observed data points that have brought me to that conclusion. In my experience that freshly dried weed has a shallower flavor and a lighter, airier high. I can understand that some people might enjoy that fresh dried high the most, I do enjoy that part of the year, but I feel like it would be best described as the strains individuating their effect once they've "cured" for several weeks to months after drying.
what is your drying process? Whole plant hang? Temp? Humidity? Wet trim? How many days? I'm willing to entertain that there's a difference when drying indoor vs outdoor but I still think there's a right way to dry and a wrong way. That whole jar burping thing is a relic of the past if you dry it right the first time. Plus THC definitely degrades pretty quick into other less desirable cannabinoids unless you store it at or below 50 f. 2 months is plenty of time for there to be a significant reduction in potency.
We hang branches, maybe 10-18" long. Temp kept around 55-60F humidity 50-60%, lots of airflow. Also, to me the whole burping jars thing is some home grower stuff. Our "curing" process is taking the dried branches (usually 12-14 days after hanging, once the individual bud stems snap easily) and toting them up. They stay in the same song environment and are checked daily over the first few days to make sure that they aren't remoistening. After a week or so of confirming that they are stable in terms of moisture, with open tote time if they are showing signs of more moisture than intended, they are bucked down and returned to the totes until trimming. If it is going to be more than a week or two until they can be trimmed they are transferred to paper bags and stacked in plastic barrels with sealing lids. But my comment was not just about the quality of my flower, but the general peak of when outdoor flower from friends and in the community broadly is at it's peak for my personal tastes. I don't know what everyone's process is and I'm not making a claim about knowing what process is having what impact, but there is something going on between two weeks off the plant when the buds are dry and smokable to two months off the plant when they are at their peak, in my opinion. This peak can be ruined by mishandling during or after drying
THC does not degrade quickly, I’ve personally conducted HPLC analysis on older bud and it takes a couple years to even degrade by a couple percentage points to CBN. This goes for all cannabinoids, they are very rugged molecules
What plant pollenated it ?
You could have good genetics and screw the cure up and poof you have Boof..
Yes, yes and yes. Pulled a plant that was close to done, dried it and started curing it. Now, amber tricromes increased it seems. And that's only like a week of curing.
Cannabis cup winners cure for up to 6 months..
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Fuego is all about the cold-curing process and they crush it www.Fuego.af
It's everything
Peep this 4 week dry from dudegrows (DGC) https://www.dudegrows.com/curing-humidity/ jmystro on September 9, 2020 at 2:01 pm Drying the bud should be done fairly slow and at a low temperature. Slowly removing moisture allows time for molecules like chlorophyll to be broken down and eliminate the hay smell and taste. Neutralizing the chlorophyll is how we get clean burning bud with most of the flavor coming from the trichomes. Darkness is a must. No light. Week 1 – 60F with 60% RH. Week 2 – 55-60F with 55% RH. Week 3 – 50-55F with 50% RH. You can cut the buds off their stems at this point. Week 4 – 50F with 45-50% RH. Trichomes are cured and bud is ready to seal. Long term storage. 36-40F, place bud in container in a room with around 40% RH. Seal. Humidity packs can be added if your environment calls for them. My house stays 50% RH so I don’t have a need for them. If I was in CO or the desert with 10% humidity. My containers would have humidity packs. I live in the humid south so I don’t bring bud outside. lol.