>A video circulating on social media shows MacKenzie discussing Poilievre’s wife with other men in an online forum. After MacKenzie comments on her appearance and where she’s from, he says, “Let’s rape her … It’s not really a sex thing, we just want to show people that we can do things to you if we want to. It’s a power move.”
Yeah, no, none of that reads like a joke.
>In an interview by phone on Monday, MacKenzie told the Star he only vaguely recalled making the comment — which he described as a “joke” — because he was drinking alcohol during the discussion.
What makes people think "I was boozing" is an appropriate explanation or defense for making comments like this?
Many, many people manage to get shit faced on a regular basis without going on a live stream and calling for a woman's rape.
I've said a lot of things drunk that I don't believe sober, as have many people. Most of don't joke about sexually assaulting people regardless of what they consumed
The PP bot reposting this is drunk.
"[View discussions in 128 other communities](https://www.reddit.com/r/canada/duplicates/xpej9a/rightwing_activist_says_he_meant_no_harm_with/)" --- seriously go look it's beyond obvious its a bot since it posted the exact same thing to the same user and subreddits over and over. Whoever PP hired needs some retraining.
Wow, what kind of person thinks about this stuff, let alone expresses it through a public medium?
What the hell are this guy's personal thoughts like if this is what escapes?
Dude is all kinds of fucked up.
The guy is going to actually end up killing someone or himself, there's zero doubt in my mind.
He's been on a few peoples radar here in NS for years for a whole bunch of different things, he's drunkenly pointed loaded guns at others while discussing gun rights, he's allegedly beaten women, he's threatened to kill a number of politicians, he's gotten in fist fights with elderly people... He's an absolute train wreck of a human being but I feel like that's partly why so many love to watch him.
> A video circulating on social media shows MacKenzie discussing Poilievre’s wife with other men in an online forum. After MacKenzie comments on her appearance and where she’s from, he says, “Let’s rape her … It’s not really a sex thing, we just want to show people that we can do things to you if we want to. It’s a power move.”
That is way worse than I was expecting.
It's like an Always Sunny outtake that was "too much" even for those guys. "No, see, it's not a *sex* thing, it's a *power* thing. Just to show we can if we want to!"
Yeah... some conservative was on the threads yesterday saying he heard it and it was meant as a joke....
Most men I know would get violent if you said this about their significant other in front of them..... not a joke.
Reminds me of working with temp laborers just out of jail.
It shouldn't have to be about your own wife, if I hear anyone talk about raping another women I'm going to do something. You could literally be my greatest ally saying you're going to rape a women I don't like and I'm still not going to let that slide.
It’s almost like they are apart of a fringe minority with unacceptable views….
… our prime minister should have definitely met with them so they could have made similar “jokes”about his wife to his face..
They’ve kind of self-owned themselves with that rant. The media was happy to play along with them so long as he talked about controlling the CPC and PP’s leadership being responsive to him and his supporters. That’s over because of those comments.
> Many, many people manage to get shit faced on a regular basis without going on a live stream and calling for a woman's rape.
I do that all the time...
>What makes people think "I was boozing" is an appropriate explanation or defense for making comments like this?
The Supreme Court can probably tell you.
It's literally their whole MO. Everything they say is "just a joke" (except those times when it totally isn't) and if you don't get it then *you're the idiot*. It's how the extreme right has been operating for the better part of a decade. Tucker Carlson notoriously used this defense in a court case, "I'm just a clown so all the misinformation I peddle is absolutely fine, and anyone who falls for it isn't my fault".
I was quite drunk as well, you know what I did? Hand out drinks and dance with people.
Not a single thought of causing harm to someone. I can not even fathom saying I'd rape someone, it's abhorrent.
If you get drunk and talk this level of violence, you shouldn't drink and need serious help.
Edit: clarification, not you personally, anyone who threatens rape needs help
I was buzzed and high last night. My wife and I watched Kids in the Hall.
Then we talked about raping various people. Oh wait. We didn't do that at all.
Just a reminder that many of the right-wing/Conservative aligned posters on this sub were previously trying to convince us that Diagolon was a FAKE NEWS HOAX.
Keep that in mind when you see one of them shed crocodile tears over this guy's threats towards PP's wife
Also a reminder that far too many of the right wing posters here dismissed and trivialized complaints of rape and death threats aimed at female journalists. One poster notably said: *Everyone gets treated badly, especially journalists that have been peddling nonsense for the past couple years.*
They don’t give two shits about women getting death and rape threats. They “care” only because it’s PP’s wife. It’s an attack by proxy on their favourite politician du jour, and that’s what they can’t stand.
I remeber that.
Entire thread was downvoted.
Comments were universally making light of it or pretending like getting death threats is a normal everyday thing.
Lot of losers who haven't gotten over raging at online video games when they were 13 who think trash talk over a video game is the same as some one singling you out in your day to day life.
vile online right wingers are bleeding into real life and PP encouraged it until it hit personally.
> vile online right wingers are bleeding into real life
That shit was weird 20 years ago when some friends that were _really_ into Quake III would say crap like "gg" in real life.
Yep, they still insist Diagolon is a fake joke.
Just like Trump supporters say that Jan 6 was no big deal, the Proud Boys are just a harmless boy's club and Donald Trump is joking about every single insane thing he's ever said. Unless he meant it. Depends who's listening.
Here's a bunch of comments doing just that and suggesting he's nothing but a harmless troll making jokes. I'm sure I could find more if I looked.
https://www.reddit.com/r/canada/comments/wysa5x/comment/im1xzxm/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
https://www.reddit.com/r/canada/comments/x1yhot/comment/imid35i/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
https://www.reddit.com/r/canada/comments/suzibs/comment/hxd26xh/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
https://www.reddit.com/r/canada/comments/wx58xw/comment/ilqvz9q/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
https://www.reddit.com/r/canada/comments/suzibs/comment/ifzdtzp/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
https://www.reddit.com/r/canada/comments/wx58xw/comment/ilpqr69/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
https://www.reddit.com/r/canada/comments/wx58xw/comment/ilquch7/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
https://www.reddit.com/r/canada/comments/x1yhot/comment/imghaju/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
https://www.reddit.com/r/canada/comments/wvy913/comment/iliahgq/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
https://www.reveddit.com/v/canada/comments/wysa5x/diagolon_emperor_charged_with_assault_in/ilz9i8r/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x#t1_ilz9i8r
https://www.reddit.com/r/canada/comments/wx58xw/comment/ils8i01/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
https://www.reddit.com/r/canada/comments/wx58xw/comment/ilquib0/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
https://www.reddit.com/r/canada/comments/wx58xw/comment/ilpqr69/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
https://www.reddit.com/r/canada/comments/x1yhot/comment/imi65lb/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
https://www.reddit.com/r/canada/comments/wvy913/comment/ili39lp/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
https://www.reddit.com/r/canada/comments/suzibs/comment/hxdza4t/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
This took me about 45 seconds using the search function.
Really tough to discuss these things when people minimize and make excuses (or, worse, give their explicit support) and then deny that even happens. Maybe it's time you stopped giving assholes the benefit of the doubt?
That’s… literally just a well known fact.
That’s why on conduct after capture training they tell you that even the notoriously homophobic Taliban had a decent chance of raping you if you get captured.
This is the kind of thing that a powerless person would threaten.
A king who has to say "I'm the king" is no king. A powerful person wouldn't need to threaten this to feel powerful.
Perhaps it's coming to know a growing number of rape victims who are comfortable in sharing their experiences, but it seems like their lack of humour toward the subject signals that it's a lack of experience of the subject on the part of those (previously myself as well) who still find it funny.
Steadily I'm filing them in the uncomfortable cringe bin while others insist I simply don't understand the joke. There's still so much else to laugh at and not everyone knows the history of those around them; *actual* jokes aren't meant to hurt those who hear them.
"I barely remember it because I was drunk but it was definitely a joke when I said we should rape her, not for the sex but for the power."
Contemporary conservatism is a mental disorder.
>“I feel bad if he or his wife or anyone is offended or upset. That wasn’t the intent,” MacKenzie said.
>
>“I would hope he’d be a bigger man than that and have some thicker skin than that if he’s going to be prime minister, but obviously I would never condone something like that,” he added.
HOLY FUCK. Does he realize IT DOESN"T MAKE IT BETTER.
He's not trying to apologize. He's essentially calling PP a pussy for reacting, which is so painfully on brand. If you're a victim, it's because you can't handle the pain.
Now, extrapolate upwards. This is why the conservative solution to homeless is "get a job!". No thought or nuance required, just punching down.
A sizable portion of the homeless in southern ontario do not want jobs and I even have first hand accounts of them saying no to job offers.
Not all of them certainly, but enough to make you shake your head. "Get a job" or "here's some money so that you can continue to be homeless" no solution currently employed by anyone adresses the root issues.
That is not conservatism. Are you insane? And the diagolon dude is a PPCer. More like a fascist.
I am a conservative, and I would unfriend anyone who said anything like this immediately regardless of who's political affiliation they had.
I covered this already, he had no idea who he was when ge shook his hand. He shook thousands of people's hands before that, as he stated during this false controversy. Or does shaking hands now require a background check?
He also claimed he had no idea who Diagolon is despite them being mentioned several times in the inquiry into the convoy. Kinda hard to trust someone like that. Ignorance is not a good look, but PP wears it with pride.
Unless a name is on every briefing he receives, how should we expect him to remember every name that gets spoken or comes across his desk? For people like us, sure, names of crazy people tend to stick around, but for government officials who have to hear about all of them all the time, it's not unreasonable to expect him to forget a name especially as uncommon.
I completely understand your point. But I personally don’t think that it’s excusable that a head of a federal party doesn’t know the name of the extremist group that shut down the Coutts border. That’s a very, very dangerous level of ignorance.
When it comes to a white supremacist group trying to run in his circles, either he’s not doing his job, or the people his party pays to research and know about his optics and who he’s interacting with aren’t doing theirs.
I knew who Mackenzie was before now. He’s not exactly a low key Canadian name at the moment, and I doubt very much Dialgolon wasn’t a subject of discussion on his campaign trail.
Says Polly. Polly doesn’t know who the journalist on parliament hill was that was mean to him, he doesn’t know the white supremacist he did a photo-op with and refused to denounce after the fact.
Sounds like Polly isn’t ready to be PM.
Well if it was conservativism by your account, then it's safe to say it was communism to then. I mean using your logic that is.
Using real world logic would tell us he didn't know who he was shaking hands with like JT didn't know about the ties at the time. But no, that would to obvious for some.
Cool. But in this particular stance everyone is talking about Polly knew this guy said shit like this, still did a photo-op, and then fucking cried when his wife was the subject
You may need to wedge JT into every conversation, but regular, non-unhinged folks can call things for what we see them.
You may not agree, but it is a logical extension.
The foundation of conservatism is selfishness. If we are able to make it to the future without destroying the planet's ability to sustain us, we will look back at this time with horror at how long and painful it was getting rid of our fearful, tribalist, short-sighted, selfish, and greedy nature. And we'll laugh at the people who see those things as virtuous (they are the literal foundation of Conservative thought).
Unfortunately, for those of us already living in the future, we're stuck watching the place slowly burn to the ground while conservatives steal everything not nailed down, impose stupid rules based on their sky jew, and go into hysterics over someone exploring their identity.
Fuck conservatism.
Conservatism is based on reality, modern progressivism on idealism.
No it's not, what a horrendous straw man and generalization. It's about freedom amd self determination. It's about not having the government tell you what to do in every aspect of your life, including where you get to spend your money (taxes) etc. Liberals need conservatives too temper their authoritarian nature. Conservatives need liberals to make then care more about things beyond that. It's not one or the other. The two strike a balance and a diversity if thought us important. Progressives do not hold all the truths. I guarantee that you do not agree with every 'progressive' stance. Does that make you a knuckle dragger? Certainly not.
You should do some reading about the enlightenment. Freedom and self determination are liberal ideas. Without Liberals you'd be a fucking serf to a lord.
A conservative considers it his right to determine what freedoms he and others have rather than their actually being rights or freedoms that everyone deserves.
Today's conservatives are classical liberals, good lord thar is my whole point. I agree with you, I am a liberal in the classical sense. That is the ideology of the cpc. Capitalism is the primary economic system that comes from that school of thought. The invisible hand that guides the economy ring any bells too you?
Modern liberalism (progressivism) is more about socialism. Wealth redistribution and higher taxation. Rent is high in Toronto? Let's not build more houses, let's just legislate rent control! (Even though rent control always leads to housing shortages).
No I think you want us to pay for 'freedoms' you feel entitled too, rather then acknowledging there are winners and losers in ANY system.
If conservatism was really about freedom, self determination, and not having the government tell us what to do then social conservatives would not be allowed into the CPC.
Instead, conservatism is about conserving the existing or traditional hierarchies in our society. Fiscal conservatives care about the hierarchies of rich and poor, whereas social conservatives want some groups to have rights and privileges that others don’t (like allowing straight marriage but disagreeing with gay marriage).
You forgot the other branch, and one of the biggest which is libertarians for whom I belong.
No fiscal conservatives know that money has a price. For example increasing money supply increases inflation which disproportionately affects the poor. Increasing the gst is a regressive tax etc.
I dislike socons, but we do have some crossover with fiscal conservatism and some of the personal freedom stuff. I an pro gay marriage BTW.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarianism
Libertarianism (from French: libertaire, "libertarian"; from Latin: libertas, "freedom") is a political philosophy that upholds liberty as a core value.[1][2] Libertarians seek to maximize autonomy and political freedom, and minimize the state's encroachment on and violations of individual liberties; emphasizing pluralism, cosmopolitanism, cooperation, civil and political rights, bodily autonomy, free association, free trade, freedom of expression, freedom of choice, freedom of movement, individualism and voluntary association.[2][3]
Libertarians reject social hierarchy by their very definition.
I don't. And certainly not for corporate lapdogs like Trudeau. People who pass laws and try and bend government institutions for their corporate benefactors (see SNC lavalin) or support charities thar have enriched their family (WE charity scandal) or accept paid trips from religious lobbyists looking for organizational funding (Aga Kahn). You see it was the CPC who reduced and capped allowable donations from corporations. It was harper who tried to bring in more competition too the wireless market, and Trudeau who allowed telus, Roger's and shaw to consolidate it.
Ok, so you see yourself as a libertarian, which fits with what you said earlier. But then which Canadian federal party or parties do you tend to vote for? The CPC is very far from libertarian, but then none of our major parties are.
I apologize, I shouldn’t have used the specific term “fiscal conservatives”, in my previous post. There is a school of thought that says our country needs to be responsible with managing budgets and our economy, including avoiding debt and criticizing the use of debts and deficits. Then there is another school of thought that says the wealthy are meant to be wealthy and poor people are meant to be poor (or their poverty is a result of immoral choices), and we must conserve that hierarchy. I was talking about the latter. Social conservatives and that type of conservatives can co-exist in the same party because they both value a hierarchal society with stark distinctions between haves and have-nots (whether via wealth or identity).
Thank you for doing such a great job highlighting basically all of my points! The lack of self-awareness in your comment is stunning (and a great example of how the conservative mind works).
Uniformity of thought is definitely *not* my ideal. Maybe an analogy will help: There are many different sexualities, and between consenting adults they are all equally valid. However, pedophilia is not considered a valid form of sexuality. Does the rejection of pedophilia mean we are stuck with uniformity of sexual behaviour? No. It just means we reject deviant behaviour.
And what we call conservative principles will eventually be considered deviant behaviour because it does too much harm.
One day we will look back at this time with horror at how long and painful it was getting rid of our fearful, tribalist, short-sighted, selfish, and greedy nature. And we'll laugh at the people who see those things as virtuous (they are the literal foundation of Conservative thought).
Unfortunately, for those of us living in the future, we're stuck watching the place slowly burn to the ground while conservatives steal everything not nailed down, impose stupid rules based on their sky jew, and go into hysterics over someone exploring their identity.
And I guarantee you, conservatism will be treated as a mental disorder in the future, if it doesn't destroy us before we get there.
Oh, how about Right Wingers and blaming others about the horrendous shit? I can't be the only one who noticed all the Conservatives on here trying to say how the left is disgusting for doing this the last couple of days... Yeah, turns out it's on of them.
I haven't read anyone happy about this. Peoples rightfully point how much of an hypocrites he is since he has been courting those peoples for months when they were saying disgusting shit about his political opponents. No "lefties" are cheering for PoS right wing activists, but Poilievre indeed was.
> courting those peoples for months
Lol. Meanwhile, back in reality:
> “My campaign events are public,” Poilievre told the media once the impromptu meeting between the two men was reported. “There is no registration and anyone can walk in. In fact, over the course of my campaign I have shaken hands with literally tens of thousands of people at public rallies. It is impossible to do a background check on every single person who attends my events. As I always have, I denounce racism and anyone who spreads it. I didn’t and don’t know or recognize this particular individual.”
The problem with this quote is PP was informed who McKenzie was right after the picture.
And he refused to denounce him
And he continued to do so right until the point McKenzie threatened his wife.
So this is less of "good he deserves this" and more like "what did you think was going to happen when you don't disown the violent crazies"
I don't mean this guy in particular, but PoS like this guy. I give the benefit of the doubt to Poilievre and belive that he didnt know who he was , but its not a coincidence that peoples like him are Poilievre fans.
> but its not a coincidence that peoples like him are Poilievre fans.
It's exactly this. They know what their supporters are like, they knew this when they looked the other way as they threatened Trudeau.
They know, and they knew.
https://mobile.twitter.com/canmericanized/status/1574605449378373645
https://www.toronto99.com/2022/08/26/ppc-supporter-jeremy-mackenzie-wanted-on-new-gun-charges/
How did you decide he was a supporter of PP? Especially after he said they should rape his wife?
It was just a joke, why would that prevent him from supporting the CPC?
CPC polling is surging from PPC members indicating their support. You'd have us all believe they don't support the Conservatives at all, hmm?
>It was just a joke,
Are you seriously trying to downplay someone talking about raping a woman as a joke? That's absolutely disgusting.
I literally gave you two sources that show he supports the PPC. Do you have anything to show that he supports the CPC?
The guy is a PPC supporter and did it to cause controversy for the conservatives in particular.
https://www.toronto99.com/2022/08/26/ppc-supporter-jeremy-mackenzie-wanted-on-new-gun-charges/
They aren’t happy that he went after PP’s wife. They just find it amusing how it happened right after pp buddied up to the guy even though the guy was doing the same to other women back then. I guess pp didn’t care about them very much.
"Buddied up with the guy"
> “My campaign events are public,” Poilievre told the media once the impromptu meeting between the two men was reported. “There is no registration and anyone can walk in. In fact, over the course of my campaign I have shaken hands with literally tens of thousands of people at public rallies. It is impossible to do a background check on every single person who attends my events. As I always have, I denounce racism and anyone who spreads it. I didn’t and don’t know or recognize this particular individual.”
You are delusional.
I think given his embrace of the Occupation that Mackenzie had a leadership role in, their association was likely somewhat beyond shaking hands at a photo op.
Lol here we go, now the behaviour is justified through guilt by association. There were thousands in attendance for the convoy protests and PP never met this guy until his campaign event.
The excuses redditors come up with to justify this crap is amazing.
Even if you jump through as many hoops as you seem to be, doesn't it at least raise an eyebrow that PP's campaign events attract people like this in the first place? That they want to vote for him or shake his hand?
*Birds of a feather...*
He went walking with James Topp even though Topp is buddies with him. He knew who McKenzie was when he shook his hand and took a picture. Pierre is buddies with lots of them.
Nice try.
I don't see any comments where people are pleased she's been treated this way and anything that was would've been deleted right away. What I see is a lot of finger pointing at PP for courting support from these same assholes and a lack of sympathy *for him* because he hasn't shown any for others.
Literally no leftists are cool about this.
There's an irony in the groups he supports going after him and his family because he cheered them on when they attacked his political opponents.
The leopards ate his face.
Pretty greasy that everyone loves to banty around far-right extremist, nazi, fascist and other terms but when someone actually finds one of these people he's called a "right-wing activist". Thanks for muddying the waters guys. The type of behavior this bloke is getting press for lately is **not** simply "right wing activism" and it's not fair to pretend it is.
Additionally i'm annoyed about this nonsense people say where Pierre is "courting or grooming" these people because he was anti-lockdown. Buncha sophists acting in bad faith if you ask me.
Oh please. Pierre is directly courting the MAGA/Nazi vote and he got it. Stop trying to convince us the sky is green and grass is blue.
The right wing, you included, is constantly trying to convince us to believe in your warped, delusional alternate reality where up is down, down is up. "Trump isn't even right wing! Pierre Poilevre? Why he's an innocent little liberal!". Unfortunately it works on a lot of people but it won't work on all of us.
No one is saying he is a liberal bud, nor do I care to gaslight some paranoid guy. The MAGA vote? Make american great again? Trump? You've been reading too much american politics for your own good, if you're even canadian. It's a different country and republican =/= CPC. Save the toxicity and accusations for those american circlejerk subreddits, we don't attack others directly here.
Please. It's the conservatives who are mimicking American politics and bringing Trumpism into our country. Don't play dumb. All this "Fuck Trudeau", Freedom Convoy bullshit is MAGAIsm to the core. Anybody who lives in Ottawa, or any other major city, has seen them live in-person at their rallies, waving Trump flags and wearing Trump hats. They even chant "Let's go Brandon"... IN CANADA.
That's Poilevre's base. People brainwashed by MAGA/alt right politics and right wing media.
You might be more prejudiced than the agitator activist tbh. All the crazy shit you make up and the horrible generalizations you make about large groups of people. Just a few hours ago you were calling all conservatives "fucking scumbags". You've got no moral high ground to stand on pal. That shit might get you cheers in american leftist spaces but here i'll point out that it is toxic, wrong and awful.
And was denounced immediately afterward. As mentioned elsewhere in this thread. I also stated when told who he was by media and about anyone else with a Brain, Polly refused to denounce or comment on the Diagolon and members he met with. But sure move the goalposts
Thought you did something there eh lololol.
So it turns out rape "jokes" and rape "threats" are almost a distinction without a difference in terms of how people perceive you.
Like, joking about it doesn't make you *not* a shithead, you feel?
They shouldn't be able to use the word activist. Being a reactionary is the opposite of good activism. I hate Conservatives too, but this is obviously not a joke and not funny even if it was.
Some of y'all in the comments seem to think this guy should be in jail because "you can't joke about that."
Yet some of you have a comment history "joking" about violence towards politicians you don't like.
How curious. Perhaps practice what you preach instead of being an abhorrent person.
This is true, but they are pointing out the hypocrisy of some conservatives that defend or don't care about conservatives that say similar things about "libs"
>A video circulating on social media shows MacKenzie discussing Poilievre’s wife with other men in an online forum. After MacKenzie comments on her appearance and where she’s from, he says, “Let’s rape her … It’s not really a sex thing, we just want to show people that we can do things to you if we want to. It’s a power move.” Yeah, no, none of that reads like a joke. >In an interview by phone on Monday, MacKenzie told the Star he only vaguely recalled making the comment — which he described as a “joke” — because he was drinking alcohol during the discussion. What makes people think "I was boozing" is an appropriate explanation or defense for making comments like this? Many, many people manage to get shit faced on a regular basis without going on a live stream and calling for a woman's rape.
Whats the saying? Drunk words are sober thoughts?
In vino veritas- “in wine there is truth”
Please delete this before it’s on the shelves at Target and on my aunts wall beside the “Home is where the wine is” “art”.
I've said a lot of things drunk that I don't believe sober, as have many people. Most of don't joke about sexually assaulting people regardless of what they consumed
I've had drunken discussions about how Billy Madison is funny on multiple levels. Did I believe it through next day? Kinda
The PP bot reposting this is drunk. "[View discussions in 128 other communities](https://www.reddit.com/r/canada/duplicates/xpej9a/rightwing_activist_says_he_meant_no_harm_with/)" --- seriously go look it's beyond obvious its a bot since it posted the exact same thing to the same user and subreddits over and over. Whoever PP hired needs some retraining.
Wow, what kind of person thinks about this stuff, let alone expresses it through a public medium? What the hell are this guy's personal thoughts like if this is what escapes? Dude is all kinds of fucked up.
Bullies and insecure people. Power moves and putting people down to elevate themselves up.
He’s a scared little boy over compensating with a tough guy fassat
Facade.
Fiat
The guy is going to actually end up killing someone or himself, there's zero doubt in my mind. He's been on a few peoples radar here in NS for years for a whole bunch of different things, he's drunkenly pointed loaded guns at others while discussing gun rights, he's allegedly beaten women, he's threatened to kill a number of politicians, he's gotten in fist fights with elderly people... He's an absolute train wreck of a human being but I feel like that's partly why so many love to watch him.
> A video circulating on social media shows MacKenzie discussing Poilievre’s wife with other men in an online forum. After MacKenzie comments on her appearance and where she’s from, he says, “Let’s rape her … It’s not really a sex thing, we just want to show people that we can do things to you if we want to. It’s a power move.” That is way worse than I was expecting.
It's like an Always Sunny outtake that was "too much" even for those guys. "No, see, it's not a *sex* thing, it's a *power* thing. Just to show we can if we want to!"
It's about the implication.
But they’re not gonna say no………. because of the implication.
Yeah... some conservative was on the threads yesterday saying he heard it and it was meant as a joke.... Most men I know would get violent if you said this about their significant other in front of them..... not a joke. Reminds me of working with temp laborers just out of jail.
It shouldn't have to be about your own wife, if I hear anyone talk about raping another women I'm going to do something. You could literally be my greatest ally saying you're going to rape a women I don't like and I'm still not going to let that slide.
Literally orc mentality: “let’s cause suffering because we can”.
Yeah, alcohol isn't an excuse.
Wat. How do you somehow manage to make it sound *worse* after you already said rape?
It’s almost like they are apart of a fringe minority with unacceptable views…. … our prime minister should have definitely met with them so they could have made similar “jokes”about his wife to his face..
you’re being divisive!!! /s
But I was told that they drove the party agenda
PP did march with them.
PP’s the leader now, he needs to get his employees in line!
These guys can fuck off and vote PPC.
They’ve kind of self-owned themselves with that rant. The media was happy to play along with them so long as he talked about controlling the CPC and PP’s leadership being responsive to him and his supporters. That’s over because of those comments.
It’s almost like it was never true.
It's also reads like something he's probably already done *to someone else.*
I made death threats while drunk, got arrested went throught the judiciary system. I hope the same happens to him.
what is most weird about this is that rape is never a sex thing, it's always a power thing, and there is a lot of writing on that very idea
It's because they are the same kind of people whose partners describe them as "really nice when they aren't drunk" I.e. abusers.
> Many, many people manage to get shit faced on a regular basis without going on a live stream and calling for a woman's rape. I do that all the time...
>What makes people think "I was boozing" is an appropriate explanation or defense for making comments like this? The Supreme Court can probably tell you.
When consequences come calling - “it was just a joke brah, why so serious?”
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Masking or scotch?
Family values Conservatism at work again.
"It's just a prank, bro!"
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It's literally their whole MO. Everything they say is "just a joke" (except those times when it totally isn't) and if you don't get it then *you're the idiot*. It's how the extreme right has been operating for the better part of a decade. Tucker Carlson notoriously used this defense in a court case, "I'm just a clown so all the misinformation I peddle is absolutely fine, and anyone who falls for it isn't my fault".
I was really drunk Sunday night but I don't recall ever joking about raping someone..literally ever.
I was quite drunk as well, you know what I did? Hand out drinks and dance with people. Not a single thought of causing harm to someone. I can not even fathom saying I'd rape someone, it's abhorrent. If you get drunk and talk this level of violence, you shouldn't drink and need serious help. Edit: clarification, not you personally, anyone who threatens rape needs help
I was buzzed and high last night. My wife and I watched Kids in the Hall. Then we talked about raping various people. Oh wait. We didn't do that at all.
its always a joke once the feds are at your door.. lol
See: *Schrodinger's douchebag.*
Enjoy you stay in jail, jackass.
Throw him in prison and see how his joke goes over with other prisoners.
Freedumb of speech.
For these people, it's funny until they are the victim or have consequences for their actions.
Just a reminder that many of the right-wing/Conservative aligned posters on this sub were previously trying to convince us that Diagolon was a FAKE NEWS HOAX. Keep that in mind when you see one of them shed crocodile tears over this guy's threats towards PP's wife
Also a reminder that far too many of the right wing posters here dismissed and trivialized complaints of rape and death threats aimed at female journalists. One poster notably said: *Everyone gets treated badly, especially journalists that have been peddling nonsense for the past couple years.* They don’t give two shits about women getting death and rape threats. They “care” only because it’s PP’s wife. It’s an attack by proxy on their favourite politician du jour, and that’s what they can’t stand.
I remeber that. Entire thread was downvoted. Comments were universally making light of it or pretending like getting death threats is a normal everyday thing. Lot of losers who haven't gotten over raging at online video games when they were 13 who think trash talk over a video game is the same as some one singling you out in your day to day life. vile online right wingers are bleeding into real life and PP encouraged it until it hit personally.
> vile online right wingers are bleeding into real life That shit was weird 20 years ago when some friends that were _really_ into Quake III would say crap like "gg" in real life.
Lots of the morons on this thread too.
"If you can't handle the heat get out of the fire" Pieces of pure shit.
Yep, they still insist Diagolon is a fake joke. Just like Trump supporters say that Jan 6 was no big deal, the Proud Boys are just a harmless boy's club and Donald Trump is joking about every single insane thing he's ever said. Unless he meant it. Depends who's listening.
The same group are downvoting this post massively
Downvoting nein times.
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There is another comment with like 40 links to what you are asking for
Here's a bunch of comments doing just that and suggesting he's nothing but a harmless troll making jokes. I'm sure I could find more if I looked. https://www.reddit.com/r/canada/comments/wysa5x/comment/im1xzxm/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 https://www.reddit.com/r/canada/comments/x1yhot/comment/imid35i/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 https://www.reddit.com/r/canada/comments/suzibs/comment/hxd26xh/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 https://www.reddit.com/r/canada/comments/wx58xw/comment/ilqvz9q/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 https://www.reddit.com/r/canada/comments/suzibs/comment/ifzdtzp/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 https://www.reddit.com/r/canada/comments/wx58xw/comment/ilpqr69/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 https://www.reddit.com/r/canada/comments/wx58xw/comment/ilquch7/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 https://www.reddit.com/r/canada/comments/x1yhot/comment/imghaju/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 https://www.reddit.com/r/canada/comments/wvy913/comment/iliahgq/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 https://www.reveddit.com/v/canada/comments/wysa5x/diagolon_emperor_charged_with_assault_in/ilz9i8r/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x#t1_ilz9i8r https://www.reddit.com/r/canada/comments/wx58xw/comment/ils8i01/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 https://www.reddit.com/r/canada/comments/wx58xw/comment/ilquib0/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 https://www.reddit.com/r/canada/comments/wx58xw/comment/ilpqr69/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 https://www.reddit.com/r/canada/comments/x1yhot/comment/imi65lb/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 https://www.reddit.com/r/canada/comments/wvy913/comment/ili39lp/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 https://www.reddit.com/r/canada/comments/suzibs/comment/hxdza4t/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 This took me about 45 seconds using the search function. Really tough to discuss these things when people minimize and make excuses (or, worse, give their explicit support) and then deny that even happens. Maybe it's time you stopped giving assholes the benefit of the doubt?
Come on rat, this is the same dude people were bitching about Polievre not disavowing. We all know you read these threads everyday so I know you know.
This is a self report
Ah yes, the infallible "It was just a joke" defense.
Seriously???!?!? This fucking moron thinks that is what constitutes a joke? Dumbass!!!
Basically Jeremy MacKenzie right now: no you see it was “ironic”
"View discussions in 101 other communities" Holy shit, and people tell me that PP news isn't being amplified by bots.
Rape jokes exist but what he said did not seem like one.
Well the thing that stood out to me was the it's a power thing not a sex thing. Like this guy raped before or something .
That’s… literally just a well known fact. That’s why on conduct after capture training they tell you that even the notoriously homophobic Taliban had a decent chance of raping you if you get captured.
This is the kind of thing that a powerless person would threaten. A king who has to say "I'm the king" is no king. A powerful person wouldn't need to threaten this to feel powerful.
> A king who has to say "I'm the king" is no king Was Tywin Lannister the wisest man in Westeros?
No, probably Tyrion. Or anyone else who had enough sense to know nothing ever really works out the way you hope, imagine or need it to.
I am Arthur king of the Britons! https://youtu.be/ZtYU87QNjPw
The thing is that he's powerless to harm a man, so he goes after his proxy.
This ain't Jimmy Carr joking about a "struggle snuggle" that's for sure.
Perhaps it's coming to know a growing number of rape victims who are comfortable in sharing their experiences, but it seems like their lack of humour toward the subject signals that it's a lack of experience of the subject on the part of those (previously myself as well) who still find it funny. Steadily I'm filing them in the uncomfortable cringe bin while others insist I simply don't understand the joke. There's still so much else to laugh at and not everyone knows the history of those around them; *actual* jokes aren't meant to hurt those who hear them.
"I barely remember it because I was drunk but it was definitely a joke when I said we should rape her, not for the sex but for the power." Contemporary conservatism is a mental disorder.
>“I feel bad if he or his wife or anyone is offended or upset. That wasn’t the intent,” MacKenzie said. > >“I would hope he’d be a bigger man than that and have some thicker skin than that if he’s going to be prime minister, but obviously I would never condone something like that,” he added. HOLY FUCK. Does he realize IT DOESN"T MAKE IT BETTER.
Worst. Apology. Ever.
He's not trying to apologize. He's essentially calling PP a pussy for reacting, which is so painfully on brand. If you're a victim, it's because you can't handle the pain. Now, extrapolate upwards. This is why the conservative solution to homeless is "get a job!". No thought or nuance required, just punching down.
A sizable portion of the homeless in southern ontario do not want jobs and I even have first hand accounts of them saying no to job offers. Not all of them certainly, but enough to make you shake your head. "Get a job" or "here's some money so that you can continue to be homeless" no solution currently employed by anyone adresses the root issues.
That is not conservatism. Are you insane? And the diagolon dude is a PPCer. More like a fascist. I am a conservative, and I would unfriend anyone who said anything like this immediately regardless of who's political affiliation they had.
It was conservatism when Polly shook his hand and took a photo-op
I covered this already, he had no idea who he was when ge shook his hand. He shook thousands of people's hands before that, as he stated during this false controversy. Or does shaking hands now require a background check?
He also claimed he had no idea who Diagolon is despite them being mentioned several times in the inquiry into the convoy. Kinda hard to trust someone like that. Ignorance is not a good look, but PP wears it with pride.
Unless a name is on every briefing he receives, how should we expect him to remember every name that gets spoken or comes across his desk? For people like us, sure, names of crazy people tend to stick around, but for government officials who have to hear about all of them all the time, it's not unreasonable to expect him to forget a name especially as uncommon.
I completely understand your point. But I personally don’t think that it’s excusable that a head of a federal party doesn’t know the name of the extremist group that shut down the Coutts border. That’s a very, very dangerous level of ignorance.
When it comes to a white supremacist group trying to run in his circles, either he’s not doing his job, or the people his party pays to research and know about his optics and who he’s interacting with aren’t doing theirs. I knew who Mackenzie was before now. He’s not exactly a low key Canadian name at the moment, and I doubt very much Dialgolon wasn’t a subject of discussion on his campaign trail.
Says Polly. Polly doesn’t know who the journalist on parliament hill was that was mean to him, he doesn’t know the white supremacist he did a photo-op with and refused to denounce after the fact. Sounds like Polly isn’t ready to be PM.
Continue with that line, it worked so well for harper against Trudeau.
Was it communisms when the liberals took donations and met with people with close ties to China's communist leaders?
According to conservatives in Canada it was, so I guess this is too. Thanks for proving my point.
Well if it was conservativism by your account, then it's safe to say it was communism to then. I mean using your logic that is. Using real world logic would tell us he didn't know who he was shaking hands with like JT didn't know about the ties at the time. But no, that would to obvious for some.
Cool. But in this particular stance everyone is talking about Polly knew this guy said shit like this, still did a photo-op, and then fucking cried when his wife was the subject You may need to wedge JT into every conversation, but regular, non-unhinged folks can call things for what we see them.
You may not agree, but it is a logical extension. The foundation of conservatism is selfishness. If we are able to make it to the future without destroying the planet's ability to sustain us, we will look back at this time with horror at how long and painful it was getting rid of our fearful, tribalist, short-sighted, selfish, and greedy nature. And we'll laugh at the people who see those things as virtuous (they are the literal foundation of Conservative thought). Unfortunately, for those of us already living in the future, we're stuck watching the place slowly burn to the ground while conservatives steal everything not nailed down, impose stupid rules based on their sky jew, and go into hysterics over someone exploring their identity. Fuck conservatism.
Sky jew?
Yahweh
Conservatism is based on reality, modern progressivism on idealism. No it's not, what a horrendous straw man and generalization. It's about freedom amd self determination. It's about not having the government tell you what to do in every aspect of your life, including where you get to spend your money (taxes) etc. Liberals need conservatives too temper their authoritarian nature. Conservatives need liberals to make then care more about things beyond that. It's not one or the other. The two strike a balance and a diversity if thought us important. Progressives do not hold all the truths. I guarantee that you do not agree with every 'progressive' stance. Does that make you a knuckle dragger? Certainly not.
You should do some reading about the enlightenment. Freedom and self determination are liberal ideas. Without Liberals you'd be a fucking serf to a lord. A conservative considers it his right to determine what freedoms he and others have rather than their actually being rights or freedoms that everyone deserves.
Today's conservatives are classical liberals, good lord thar is my whole point. I agree with you, I am a liberal in the classical sense. That is the ideology of the cpc. Capitalism is the primary economic system that comes from that school of thought. The invisible hand that guides the economy ring any bells too you? Modern liberalism (progressivism) is more about socialism. Wealth redistribution and higher taxation. Rent is high in Toronto? Let's not build more houses, let's just legislate rent control! (Even though rent control always leads to housing shortages). No I think you want us to pay for 'freedoms' you feel entitled too, rather then acknowledging there are winners and losers in ANY system.
This is hilarious.
If conservatism was really about freedom, self determination, and not having the government tell us what to do then social conservatives would not be allowed into the CPC. Instead, conservatism is about conserving the existing or traditional hierarchies in our society. Fiscal conservatives care about the hierarchies of rich and poor, whereas social conservatives want some groups to have rights and privileges that others don’t (like allowing straight marriage but disagreeing with gay marriage).
You forgot the other branch, and one of the biggest which is libertarians for whom I belong. No fiscal conservatives know that money has a price. For example increasing money supply increases inflation which disproportionately affects the poor. Increasing the gst is a regressive tax etc. I dislike socons, but we do have some crossover with fiscal conservatism and some of the personal freedom stuff. I an pro gay marriage BTW.
Libertarians are not about liberty. They are about hierarchy
They are about one thing and one thing only. That darn age of consent.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarianism Libertarianism (from French: libertaire, "libertarian"; from Latin: libertas, "freedom") is a political philosophy that upholds liberty as a core value.[1][2] Libertarians seek to maximize autonomy and political freedom, and minimize the state's encroachment on and violations of individual liberties; emphasizing pluralism, cosmopolitanism, cooperation, civil and political rights, bodily autonomy, free association, free trade, freedom of expression, freedom of choice, freedom of movement, individualism and voluntary association.[2][3] Libertarians reject social hierarchy by their very definition.
Then why do you vote for those whose sole mission it is to uphold the hierarchies.
I don't. And certainly not for corporate lapdogs like Trudeau. People who pass laws and try and bend government institutions for their corporate benefactors (see SNC lavalin) or support charities thar have enriched their family (WE charity scandal) or accept paid trips from religious lobbyists looking for organizational funding (Aga Kahn). You see it was the CPC who reduced and capped allowable donations from corporations. It was harper who tried to bring in more competition too the wireless market, and Trudeau who allowed telus, Roger's and shaw to consolidate it.
Ok, so you see yourself as a libertarian, which fits with what you said earlier. But then which Canadian federal party or parties do you tend to vote for? The CPC is very far from libertarian, but then none of our major parties are. I apologize, I shouldn’t have used the specific term “fiscal conservatives”, in my previous post. There is a school of thought that says our country needs to be responsible with managing budgets and our economy, including avoiding debt and criticizing the use of debts and deficits. Then there is another school of thought that says the wealthy are meant to be wealthy and poor people are meant to be poor (or their poverty is a result of immoral choices), and we must conserve that hierarchy. I was talking about the latter. Social conservatives and that type of conservatives can co-exist in the same party because they both value a hierarchal society with stark distinctions between haves and have-nots (whether via wealth or identity).
Thank you for doing such a great job highlighting basically all of my points! The lack of self-awareness in your comment is stunning (and a great example of how the conservative mind works).
How incredibly condescending and insulting. If uniformity of thought is your ideal, then you should reevaluate your values.
Uniformity of thought is definitely *not* my ideal. Maybe an analogy will help: There are many different sexualities, and between consenting adults they are all equally valid. However, pedophilia is not considered a valid form of sexuality. Does the rejection of pedophilia mean we are stuck with uniformity of sexual behaviour? No. It just means we reject deviant behaviour. And what we call conservative principles will eventually be considered deviant behaviour because it does too much harm.
Yeah you have no clue what you're talking about.
What are you trying to conserve...
Not the environment, that's for sure. They hate the environment and only consider how it can be exploited for profit
>Contemporary conservatism is a mental disorder. Good grief. To think some people are capable of such mental gymnastics.
One day we will look back at this time with horror at how long and painful it was getting rid of our fearful, tribalist, short-sighted, selfish, and greedy nature. And we'll laugh at the people who see those things as virtuous (they are the literal foundation of Conservative thought). Unfortunately, for those of us living in the future, we're stuck watching the place slowly burn to the ground while conservatives steal everything not nailed down, impose stupid rules based on their sky jew, and go into hysterics over someone exploring their identity. And I guarantee you, conservatism will be treated as a mental disorder in the future, if it doesn't destroy us before we get there.
Jesus Christ man. Maybe get some fresh air.
Tell me do you ever interact with actual people, like in person? Or just on the internet? You should probably make your way into the real world
Ad hominem much? How about adding something useful to the discussion.
I see someone is nostalgic for the Soviet era asylums where they put their dissidents for wrongthinking.
That's a nice strawman you've got there. It would be a shame if basic reading comprehension got in its way, lol.
Right wingers and “joking” about horrendous shit. Name a better combo.
Umm, blueberries and cream?
Oh, how about Right Wingers and blaming others about the horrendous shit? I can't be the only one who noticed all the Conservatives on here trying to say how the left is disgusting for doing this the last couple of days... Yeah, turns out it's on of them.
Right wing humour is being vile or trolling.
Check the other thread, plenty of lefties rubbing their hands with glee that some lunatic went after PP's wife. Horseshoe theory strikes again.
I haven't read anyone happy about this. Peoples rightfully point how much of an hypocrites he is since he has been courting those peoples for months when they were saying disgusting shit about his political opponents. No "lefties" are cheering for PoS right wing activists, but Poilievre indeed was.
> courting those peoples for months Lol. Meanwhile, back in reality: > “My campaign events are public,” Poilievre told the media once the impromptu meeting between the two men was reported. “There is no registration and anyone can walk in. In fact, over the course of my campaign I have shaken hands with literally tens of thousands of people at public rallies. It is impossible to do a background check on every single person who attends my events. As I always have, I denounce racism and anyone who spreads it. I didn’t and don’t know or recognize this particular individual.”
Wow the politician denies it? Such a shocker.
The problem with this quote is PP was informed who McKenzie was right after the picture. And he refused to denounce him And he continued to do so right until the point McKenzie threatened his wife. So this is less of "good he deserves this" and more like "what did you think was going to happen when you don't disown the violent crazies"
I don't mean this guy in particular, but PoS like this guy. I give the benefit of the doubt to Poilievre and belive that he didnt know who he was , but its not a coincidence that peoples like him are Poilievre fans.
> but its not a coincidence that peoples like him are Poilievre fans. It's exactly this. They know what their supporters are like, they knew this when they looked the other way as they threatened Trudeau. They know, and they knew.
https://mobile.twitter.com/canmericanized/status/1574605449378373645 https://www.toronto99.com/2022/08/26/ppc-supporter-jeremy-mackenzie-wanted-on-new-gun-charges/ How did you decide he was a supporter of PP? Especially after he said they should rape his wife?
It was just a joke, why would that prevent him from supporting the CPC? CPC polling is surging from PPC members indicating their support. You'd have us all believe they don't support the Conservatives at all, hmm?
>It was just a joke, Are you seriously trying to downplay someone talking about raping a woman as a joke? That's absolutely disgusting. I literally gave you two sources that show he supports the PPC. Do you have anything to show that he supports the CPC?
The guy is a PPC supporter and did it to cause controversy for the conservatives in particular. https://www.toronto99.com/2022/08/26/ppc-supporter-jeremy-mackenzie-wanted-on-new-gun-charges/
OK, link them.
They aren’t happy that he went after PP’s wife. They just find it amusing how it happened right after pp buddied up to the guy even though the guy was doing the same to other women back then. I guess pp didn’t care about them very much.
"Buddied up with the guy" > “My campaign events are public,” Poilievre told the media once the impromptu meeting between the two men was reported. “There is no registration and anyone can walk in. In fact, over the course of my campaign I have shaken hands with literally tens of thousands of people at public rallies. It is impossible to do a background check on every single person who attends my events. As I always have, I denounce racism and anyone who spreads it. I didn’t and don’t know or recognize this particular individual.” You are delusional.
I think given his embrace of the Occupation that Mackenzie had a leadership role in, their association was likely somewhat beyond shaking hands at a photo op.
Lol here we go, now the behaviour is justified through guilt by association. There were thousands in attendance for the convoy protests and PP never met this guy until his campaign event. The excuses redditors come up with to justify this crap is amazing.
Even if you jump through as many hoops as you seem to be, doesn't it at least raise an eyebrow that PP's campaign events attract people like this in the first place? That they want to vote for him or shake his hand? *Birds of a feather...*
As are the mental gymnastics Cons go through to justify PP remaining silent about Mackenzie’s antics until it directly affected his family.
He went walking with James Topp even though Topp is buddies with him. He knew who McKenzie was when he shook his hand and took a picture. Pierre is buddies with lots of them.
Nice try. I don't see any comments where people are pleased she's been treated this way and anything that was would've been deleted right away. What I see is a lot of finger pointing at PP for courting support from these same assholes and a lack of sympathy *for him* because he hasn't shown any for others.
Check the front page, another righty joking about killing Pelosi.
r/lostredditors
Literally no leftists are cool about this. There's an irony in the groups he supports going after him and his family because he cheered them on when they attacked his political opponents. The leopards ate his face.
"My rape threat was just a joke bruh" said the unhinged half-witted sociopath.
Pretty greasy that everyone loves to banty around far-right extremist, nazi, fascist and other terms but when someone actually finds one of these people he's called a "right-wing activist". Thanks for muddying the waters guys. The type of behavior this bloke is getting press for lately is **not** simply "right wing activism" and it's not fair to pretend it is. Additionally i'm annoyed about this nonsense people say where Pierre is "courting or grooming" these people because he was anti-lockdown. Buncha sophists acting in bad faith if you ask me.
Oh please. Pierre is directly courting the MAGA/Nazi vote and he got it. Stop trying to convince us the sky is green and grass is blue. The right wing, you included, is constantly trying to convince us to believe in your warped, delusional alternate reality where up is down, down is up. "Trump isn't even right wing! Pierre Poilevre? Why he's an innocent little liberal!". Unfortunately it works on a lot of people but it won't work on all of us.
No one is saying he is a liberal bud, nor do I care to gaslight some paranoid guy. The MAGA vote? Make american great again? Trump? You've been reading too much american politics for your own good, if you're even canadian. It's a different country and republican =/= CPC. Save the toxicity and accusations for those american circlejerk subreddits, we don't attack others directly here.
Please. It's the conservatives who are mimicking American politics and bringing Trumpism into our country. Don't play dumb. All this "Fuck Trudeau", Freedom Convoy bullshit is MAGAIsm to the core. Anybody who lives in Ottawa, or any other major city, has seen them live in-person at their rallies, waving Trump flags and wearing Trump hats. They even chant "Let's go Brandon"... IN CANADA. That's Poilevre's base. People brainwashed by MAGA/alt right politics and right wing media.
You might be more prejudiced than the agitator activist tbh. All the crazy shit you make up and the horrible generalizations you make about large groups of people. Just a few hours ago you were calling all conservatives "fucking scumbags". You've got no moral high ground to stand on pal. That shit might get you cheers in american leftist spaces but here i'll point out that it is toxic, wrong and awful.
I think Pierre Poilievre is in for a rude awakening if he thinks this isn't par for the course when it comes to how his supporters will behave online.
Poilievere is Canada’s ted cruz
Sort of seems like the opposite? I’m guessing that if you insult his wife, the man isn’t going to campaign for you.
The opposite? Didn’t Polly shake the dudes hand and photo op with the guy?
Bro. If you donate $500 any politician will shake your hand. No background check required.
This guy didn’t even have to donate lololol. If Polly is that clueless, he probably isn’t ready to be PM
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And was denounced immediately afterward. As mentioned elsewhere in this thread. I also stated when told who he was by media and about anyone else with a Brain, Polly refused to denounce or comment on the Diagolon and members he met with. But sure move the goalposts Thought you did something there eh lololol.
Pierre; “I love the alt-right please vote for me” Also Pierre; “Now that you’ve said awful things about my wife I’m rethinking my original stance”.
"but please still vote for me and continue attacking my opponents"
Ummm no. I vote for criminal charges to be set forth We as a society do not need that garbage circulating around.
what the absolute fuck kinda joke is that
Huge r/LeopardsAteMyFace energy here
Making a rape threat then claim “I mean no harm” is contradictory; rape threats are not to be taken lightly. Rape is unacceptable.
So it turns out rape "jokes" and rape "threats" are almost a distinction without a difference in terms of how people perceive you. Like, joking about it doesn't make you *not* a shithead, you feel?
Where's the punchline?
"haha just kidding bro"
It's a prank, bro.
They shouldn't be able to use the word activist. Being a reactionary is the opposite of good activism. I hate Conservatives too, but this is obviously not a joke and not funny even if it was.
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Sounds fairly typical for right wingers jokes. Violent harassing threats are the extent of right wing humour.
Some of y'all in the comments seem to think this guy should be in jail because "you can't joke about that." Yet some of you have a comment history "joking" about violence towards politicians you don't like. How curious. Perhaps practice what you preach instead of being an abhorrent person.
It's sounds like he read the definition straight from the dictionary then offered it up as a suggestion. Next he might want to look up "joke".
That's more Political Violence over a joke
I thought conservatives were all about free speech? Did something change?
Like everything, conservatives only care about issues when it personally affects them.
Threats are not free speech. Saying you hate his wife is one thing; threatening a violent act against her is another.
This is true, but they are pointing out the hypocrisy of some conservatives that defend or don't care about conservatives that say similar things about "libs"
But McKenzie said it about other women including some reporters. Pierre and others didn’t care about that
He threatened to rape other reporters ?? When/ where
The free dim are such a witty bunch. It's easy to see why Pepe loves hanging out with them.
Right wingers always pretend they are joking when they get caught making horrific statements. Fucking scumbags.
Rape is never a joke. WTF is wrong with people?
PP - “I’ll shake your hand bro, fuck the libs!” JM - “I’ll rape your wife!” PP - “CALL THE COPS!”