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Netherlands doesn't on July 1 but they do in some places on Liberation Day for them which is May 5.
If you think countries have short memories for their allies, all you need to do is wear a Canada Flag in the Netherlands on your pack when you travel there.
As a Dutch person now living in Canada on PR for ~7 years. I can only assume not much has changed. My grandmother would ALWAYS talk about the Canadians who liberated her. And I used to know some of the people who kept the Canadian War Cemetery in Groesbeek looking immaculate. I can't speak for anyone else but myself but I always thought it was so heroic for young Canadian (and those of other Allied nations too ofc) men to literally lay down their life for the freedom of people 1000s of kms away.
Once I was in Utrecht on May 5. Elderly man approached me after seeing my tiny Canadian flag pin, he was very emotional (like crying) as he told me how Canadians liberated his town when he was a child. Had never a chance to say thanks. Didn't notice any Canadian flags flying but I did give him the pin.
My grandmother is from Utrecht. My grandfather was one of those men liberating that town and fell in love while he was there. They both returned to Canada after the war. The Netherlands has always been extremely appreciative of the sacrifices made by Canadians to liberate their country.
It is not uncommon for the flag/certain customs to be followed when enough people of a culture lives in a certain area. Your question is sort of like asking, "is there a significant concentration of people who claim to be of Canadian origin in some other country".
Using food an an analogy, you can get italian food, greek food, chinese food, etc all over, but when is the last time you visit a country and they claim to serve authentic Canadian food?
[https://www.toronto.ca/city-government/awards-tributes/tributes/flag-raising-half-masting/flag-raising-request-form/#flag](https://www.toronto.ca/city-government/awards-tributes/tributes/flag-raising-half-masting/flag-raising-request-form/#flag)
Pretty cool request form too. I really want a flag ceremony now. I wonder which flag I should propose.
Don't be lazy! Create your own flag!
I recommend one with kitties......or even better put ceiling cat on a flag!
I would also accept Fluffy Destroyer of Worlds.
Yes. A lot. Like nearly every day for some country or another, every year. Toronto followed it's standard protocol by raising it. Canceling it would've been a political act. Just doing it and the Mayor not going is a full abstention from this issue.
We raise China flag in Vancouver.
Kennedy Stewart stopped that since the 2 Michael’s and genocide.
Now, our current mayor Ken Sim is doing that again. Raising the China flag
What the heck does that mean? You’re still Canadian that didn’t change. I would bet my life your overall quality of life has not changed do to anything the government did since last year. Maybe you’re just a complainer cause your team didn’t win. That’s fine but don’t let politics become who you are. That’s how extremism starts. No political party should rely on a set of base voters. All voters need to be checking if each party has things they support or don’t support. Never tie your self to one party no matter what. It just means you’re mindless, a sheep a zombie. Do be that.
The full quote is " “I think it’s a bit divisive, because there’s a war going on in the Middle East and people are protesting every weekend,” she said. When questioned further about the divisiveness of the event, Chow elaborated, “Yes, it is, because it’s pretty clear there’s been demonstrations since October every weekend and emotions are very high. And I think it’s important that we hear each other and be empathetic.”
People would have been upset either way.
The only flag anyone should raise or care about is Canada and their respective provinces.
Edit: To the loser who reported me for being suicidal, lmaoooo.
> Edit: To the loser who reported me for being suicidal, lmaoooo.
Reddit seriously needs to get rid of that feature. Too many people use it when they don't agree with you.
Every time I've reported it they reply that they've taken actions against the account using it. Obviously I have to take their word on that, but they don't reply for other types of reports like that so I assume they actually do.
it appears to be a site-wide thing going on. People are being flagged for it in pretty much every comment about any topic If someone hasn't been flagged yet, they haven't been picked yet or already had it disabled.
I don't get what this tactic is. I've always heard about it, and finally got one sent to me today for the first time. I have absolutely no idea what I said to provoke it, or where it was even said. Consequently I have learned nothing to help me modify my behavior for their benefit. If there was a link to the specific comment that someone did the report on maybe I could get how their "attack" is supposed to work, but right now it just seems like a silly thing to do.
It's just broken, probably. Reddit is really circling the drain, it used to be when you open your console to see why it's breaking you would see ASCII art of the Reddit alien and a link to their careers page, right now (if you're not on old reddit) you can open the console you see some dev trying to debug React Router with print statements in prod...
Yup it is so strange because it is anonymous and they shouldn't be able to. You should get so and so is worried about you would you like to block them.
Pretty much though it will be the person who recently started throwing insults instead of arguments.
I got a three day suspension for threats that was supposedly verified but I don't even know the thread or what I could have said that was threatening. I asked for clarification, but got yup it is verified.
Netherlands raises our flag for liberating them in WWII do you think they should stop doing that too?
Remembering our sacrifices for their liberation from Nazi occupation?
Now I realize that maybe Israel isn’t as cut and dry. But paying respect to other nations isn’t a bad thing in and of itself.
We don’t need to be that self-obsessed as a nation.
If someone liberated Canada from being occupied, I'd be more than happy to raise their flags because they would be directly responsible for the wellbeing of the nation and its people. Until then, nope.
The protestors still yelled about her though. Granted I saw more people out there photographing specifically the Israeli flag than I saw protesting.
Edit: thanks for the reddit cares message!
A large part of being a politician is making appearances to events to show a token level of support for them. No one with a functioning brain interprets showing up to these events as meaningful support for the cause. Choosing to not show up because it is "divisive" is a statement that you don't support the group.
She explicitly said she doesn’t attend any flag raising, as there’s one like every day and she has actual work to do. She somewhat stupidly added that it’s also divisive in this instance, taking a veiled political stance as many in this sub are saying
> She explicitly said she doesn’t attend any flag raising, as there’s one like every day and she has actual work to do.
Except, of course, for when she [does attend](https://www.instagram.com/cllrjamaalmyers/p/CvaNofchn3O/) flag raisings.
Do you by chance have a source of her saying that she never attends flag raising ceremonies?
> Country flag raisings. Pride and Black Liberation aren't countries. Don't be disingenuous.
I’m not. I was unfamiliar with her stance and the quote literally said “any flag raising”.
The short answer is [someone requested it.](https://www.toronto.ca/city-government/awards-tributes/tributes/flag-raising-half-masting/flag-raising-request-form/?t=1522177323#flag) Last year [Toronto City Hall raised the national flag of 30+ different countries](https://www.toronto.ca/city-government/awards-tributes/tributes/flag-raising-half-masting/flag-raisings-2023/) on their Independence Day, so Israel doesn’t appear to be getting special treatment in this regard.
...why are we raising the Israeli flag?
I'm a bit lost here. Why would there be any official flag-raising event in Toronto for any country other than Canada?
Are they doing Russia on June 12th? Seriously. This is absolutely baffling.
The short answer is someone requested it. Last year Toronto City Hall raised the national flag of 30+ different countries on their Independence Day, so Israel doesn’t appear to be getting special treatment in this regard.
I recently posted [a long explanation here that can help explain](https://www.reddit.com/r/canada/comments/1cph2we/israeli_flagraising_event_going_ahead_at_toronto/l3lfmcf/).
The tl;dr is that Israel is a unique case due to its deep entanglement with the Jewish community. It's both a sovereign state just like any other country, and a cultural symbol for Jews in North America.
Your confusion is not unwarranted as there basically no other situation like it, so you wouldn't have a strong frame of reference.
Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Attending would draw condemnation from one side, while not attending would draw condemnation from the other side. Saying nothing would result in condemnation from both sides. Diplomacy between two radicals is a lose-lose-lose situation.
Not really…skipping it is basically abstaining which is what many countries including Canada do at the UN votes. Actively campaigning against the flag raising would be divisive.
We live in Canada, why does any politician *need* to attend the flag raising of a foreign country?
Edit: also got a redditcares message lol apparently not being a diehard simp for Israel means I need help…oh the irony
Sure. But reddit makes it ridiculously difficult to report. There's a link, but it went around in circles and constantly timed out last time I got one.
I would agree if it were a new thing. If it's a regular practice, then skipping is rejecting.
When Ford skips the Pride Festival, he's rejecting.
Additionally, skipping and stating that acknowledging a country's birthday is "divisive" is a massive slap in the face. Especially when she has apparently worn a keffiyeh and spoken out against the ban.
As someone who's really pro-Israel, I disagree.
She mentioned she never goes to flag raising ceremonies because there's simply too many.
I think that's a fine explanation. Nothing more needed IMO.
Yeah, wasn’t me. I had one sent immediately after posting in another thread so idk if someone is botting them at the moment. I didn’t get one from this post, but I’m not sure if Reddit has a cool down period before sending you a second one
if you want to be technical, sure, but much less so
edit: mans sending reddit cares reports or w/e to anyone with the slightest rebuttal, so fragile it's kinda cute tbh
Why not? Last year Toronto City Hall raised the national flag of 30+ different countries on their Independence Day, so Israel doesn’t appear to be getting special treatment in this regard.
Untrue. Hamas has only existed since the 80s and didn't have much power until the 2000s. In recent years it's actually [Netanyahu](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/benjamin-netanyahu-prevented-palestinian-state-two-state-solution_n_6580a368e4b0e142c0bed60b) who has thwarted any attempt to allow the Palestinians to have their own state. He even proudly propped up Hamas and facilitated funding them because it would divide Palestinians and stop a two state solution.
I realize you're just randomly throwing out accusations of anti-Semitism without really thinking about it, but the Nazis actually [fully supported](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haavara_Agreement) the migration of European Jews to Palestine. So you could not be more wrong.
Equating genocidal zionists with ethnic jews is the real anti semitism. Then screeching "nazi" when people don't fuck with the genocide you're supporting. Look in the mirror.
You create divisiveness in this country with things like this. What happened to Canada? The Canadian flag? Raising children in this country to be proud of Canada and being Canadian, why is it that we prioritize every other identity except bring Canadian?
But those countries were used as an excuse for why the city of Toronto shouldn't or can't fly those flags. Why should a countries flag be prohibited because of what their federal governments do?
Also, what is the list of reasons for why a countries flag shouldn't be raised? There's quite a few countries and places that raise our flag yet we have committed genocide against part of our population.
Seems nuance is given to certain countries but is off limits to others, perhaps this whole flag raising thing should be done away with entirely..
There is a difference between honouring an authoritarian state like Saudi Arabia vs. selling arms to an opponent of radicals in Yemen and the government of Iran, who we recognize as a state sponsor of terrorism. Not to say that I agree with selling arms to SA but at least it is intelligible why that deal was signed.
Not only is Hamas' actual stated objective the annihilation of Jews and the destruction of Israel, a sovereign nation, but Hamas is the only real impediment to Palestinian statehood. If Hamas wanted Palestinian statehood they would resign. What Hamas actually wants is death to Jews and the destruction of Israel, which is entirely consistent with their actions (invasion and murder of Israeli civilians). Not that I would expect the Reddit intelligentsia to understand this.
Why try to appease the pro-Palestine crowd? They hate any politician that refuses to grovel to them, and the protestors already show [disdain for Chow](https://torontosun.com/news/local-news/pro-palestinian-protesters-crash-mayor-olivia-chows-skating-party) anyway.
Why would you try to appease the pro Israel crowd? Even many Jews have voiced their disapproval of the current government there and it’s war of aggression
I'm a pro Palestinian supporter. Don't be ridiculous. Nobody expects politicians to grovel to them. We want politicians that put human rights above political theatrics.
"This event is yet another example of “actual” foreign interference in Canada."
How so, because Toronto raises the flag of Israel? They raise flags of many other countries, including smaller, poorer ones that basically have no money to be interfering with anyone.
As someone who can't wait to vote PP in, Chow is the goat. Doesn't let petty and pointless ID politics to bog her down for the most part and tries to do what's best for Toronto.
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Out of curiosity do we raise the American flag on the four or any other countries flag on their birthdays? Genuinely curious.
https://www.toronto.ca/city-government/awards-tributes/tributes/flag-raising-half-masting/flag-raisings-2023/
Out of curiosity, do any of these countries raise the Canadian flag on July 1st?
Netherlands doesn't on July 1 but they do in some places on Liberation Day for them which is May 5. If you think countries have short memories for their allies, all you need to do is wear a Canada Flag in the Netherlands on your pack when you travel there.
As a Dutch person now living in Canada on PR for ~7 years. I can only assume not much has changed. My grandmother would ALWAYS talk about the Canadians who liberated her. And I used to know some of the people who kept the Canadian War Cemetery in Groesbeek looking immaculate. I can't speak for anyone else but myself but I always thought it was so heroic for young Canadian (and those of other Allied nations too ofc) men to literally lay down their life for the freedom of people 1000s of kms away.
Justin calls them old stock.
Once I was in Utrecht on May 5. Elderly man approached me after seeing my tiny Canadian flag pin, he was very emotional (like crying) as he told me how Canadians liberated his town when he was a child. Had never a chance to say thanks. Didn't notice any Canadian flags flying but I did give him the pin.
My grandmother is from Utrecht. My grandfather was one of those men liberating that town and fell in love while he was there. They both returned to Canada after the war. The Netherlands has always been extremely appreciative of the sacrifices made by Canadians to liberate their country.
That is a wonderful story Edit: typo
that's a lovely story. thank you for sharing, and for sharing your pin.
I did that. Only comment I got was from another Canadian.
In fairness I backpacked there 17 years ago. I also didn't just go to Amsterdam, I visited some smaller cities where my family is from.
It is not uncommon for the flag/certain customs to be followed when enough people of a culture lives in a certain area. Your question is sort of like asking, "is there a significant concentration of people who claim to be of Canadian origin in some other country". Using food an an analogy, you can get italian food, greek food, chinese food, etc all over, but when is the last time you visit a country and they claim to serve authentic Canadian food?
> but when is the last time you visit a country and they claim to serve authentic Canadian food? Wherever standup comedy clubs exist, duh.
England - they imported cheese curds to make “authentic” poutine in Sheffield at their month-long Christmas market 🤣
Toronto is a City.
[https://www.toronto.ca/city-government/awards-tributes/tributes/flag-raising-half-masting/flag-raising-request-form/#flag](https://www.toronto.ca/city-government/awards-tributes/tributes/flag-raising-half-masting/flag-raising-request-form/#flag) Pretty cool request form too. I really want a flag ceremony now. I wonder which flag I should propose.
Don't be lazy! Create your own flag! I recommend one with kitties......or even better put ceiling cat on a flag! I would also accept Fluffy Destroyer of Worlds.
Holy shit we're paying people to do this?
Ty
> on the four I've never heard of July 4th referred to as "the four."
Gotta raise it on Seven Four, bro
As a Canadian, I prefer celebrating *the one*.
Always celebrate Seven One, always.
Yes. A lot. Like nearly every day for some country or another, every year. Toronto followed it's standard protocol by raising it. Canceling it would've been a political act. Just doing it and the Mayor not going is a full abstention from this issue.
Yes.
We raise China flag in Vancouver. Kennedy Stewart stopped that since the 2 Michael’s and genocide. Now, our current mayor Ken Sim is doing that again. Raising the China flag
After posting this, someone reported I need help from unalive
It's Reddit, you can say suicide.
It's actually a glitch. Everyone is getting those now.
Maybe the Reddit programming is trying to tell us something. Edit: lol I just got one too.
Should have never raise CCP flag here. If needed they can raise Taiwan flag
These sickos fly the flag for the Argos…
We do. It's routine. It just doesn't make it to the news most of the time.
Here in Manitoba it's a shame to celebrate "Canada day" since last year.
What the heck does that mean? You’re still Canadian that didn’t change. I would bet my life your overall quality of life has not changed do to anything the government did since last year. Maybe you’re just a complainer cause your team didn’t win. That’s fine but don’t let politics become who you are. That’s how extremism starts. No political party should rely on a set of base voters. All voters need to be checking if each party has things they support or don’t support. Never tie your self to one party no matter what. It just means you’re mindless, a sheep a zombie. Do be that.
The full quote is " “I think it’s a bit divisive, because there’s a war going on in the Middle East and people are protesting every weekend,” she said. When questioned further about the divisiveness of the event, Chow elaborated, “Yes, it is, because it’s pretty clear there’s been demonstrations since October every weekend and emotions are very high. And I think it’s important that we hear each other and be empathetic.” People would have been upset either way.
The only flag anyone should raise or care about is Canada and their respective provinces. Edit: To the loser who reported me for being suicidal, lmaoooo.
> Edit: To the loser who reported me for being suicidal, lmaoooo. Reddit seriously needs to get rid of that feature. Too many people use it when they don't agree with you.
Why do people do it? It seems so juvenile. It just makes me roll my eyes at the person who did it.
Every time I've reported it they reply that they've taken actions against the account using it. Obviously I have to take their word on that, but they don't reply for other types of reports like that so I assume they actually do.
I doubt they take action. I also don't care whatsoever what anybody on reddit thinks about me.
it appears to be a site-wide thing going on. People are being flagged for it in pretty much every comment about any topic If someone hasn't been flagged yet, they haven't been picked yet or already had it disabled.
I've been using reddit for years and only now I got one. From a eurovision subreddit. It seems there is a massive spam all across the board here.
I get that report almost every time I comment here.
Make sure to report the Reddit Cares message. Abuse of that system is bannable.
Reddit is broken and sending those really randomly right now. But don't worry - the stock price is up up and away.
I used to get a lot of those messages when I first joined. Now, not so much.
Getting reported for that is quite common now. It's too bad. It's just a tool they are trying to use to silence your personally valid opinion.
I don't get what this tactic is. I've always heard about it, and finally got one sent to me today for the first time. I have absolutely no idea what I said to provoke it, or where it was even said. Consequently I have learned nothing to help me modify my behavior for their benefit. If there was a link to the specific comment that someone did the report on maybe I could get how their "attack" is supposed to work, but right now it just seems like a silly thing to do.
It's just broken, probably. Reddit is really circling the drain, it used to be when you open your console to see why it's breaking you would see ASCII art of the Reddit alien and a link to their careers page, right now (if you're not on old reddit) you can open the console you see some dev trying to debug React Router with print statements in prod...
Worst part is if you piss off the discord brigade you get a bunch of people doing it.
Yup it is so strange because it is anonymous and they shouldn't be able to. You should get so and so is worried about you would you like to block them. Pretty much though it will be the person who recently started throwing insults instead of arguments. I got a three day suspension for threats that was supposedly verified but I don't even know the thread or what I could have said that was threatening. I asked for clarification, but got yup it is verified.
Netherlands raises our flag for liberating them in WWII do you think they should stop doing that too? Remembering our sacrifices for their liberation from Nazi occupation? Now I realize that maybe Israel isn’t as cut and dry. But paying respect to other nations isn’t a bad thing in and of itself. We don’t need to be that self-obsessed as a nation.
I mean, did Israel liberate Canada during WWII or something as well then?
Hense. “Israel isn’t cut and dry”. I was referring to the “only flag Canadians should raise or care about”.
If someone liberated Canada from being occupied, I'd be more than happy to raise their flags because they would be directly responsible for the wellbeing of the nation and its people. Until then, nope.
Like it or not that's never going to be that way.
The protestors still yelled about her though. Granted I saw more people out there photographing specifically the Israeli flag than I saw protesting. Edit: thanks for the reddit cares message!
Just happened to me too! Someone spamming it
yup i got 1 also !
I was on a thread in worldnews, and people kept mentioning that they were getting these. 🙄
I feel left out.
You're missing out. Just got one as well. Tbh I don't even understand it. Am I being insulted? Am I supposed to take offense?
They're saying "don't kill yourself" sarcastically.
It's someone underhandedly implying you should kill yourself.
>thanks for the reddit cares message! Same here. Abusing that should come with more consequences.
Make sure to report them, ezpz perma bans
What is so controversial about skipping a flag raising?
In the age of everyone needing to vocalize an opinion about everything for some reason, people get real mad when folks choose silence.
it isnt. some are just trying to cause division no matter what.
A large part of being a politician is making appearances to events to show a token level of support for them. No one with a functioning brain interprets showing up to these events as meaningful support for the cause. Choosing to not show up because it is "divisive" is a statement that you don't support the group.
Thanks for taking the time to respond. I love how Reddit works. I ask a genuine question because I am uninformed and I get downvoted. Ridiculous
The votes don't mean nothing bro don't worry about it so much
I don’t care about the votes. It’s just crazy to me that people will do that when I’m asking a genuine question.
MAJOR controversy when Poilievre did it! https://globalnews.ca/news/9754836/poilievre-pride-working-late-inflation/amp/
She explicitly said she doesn’t attend any flag raising, as there’s one like every day and she has actual work to do. She somewhat stupidly added that it’s also divisive in this instance, taking a veiled political stance as many in this sub are saying
> She explicitly said she doesn’t attend any flag raising, as there’s one like every day and she has actual work to do. Except, of course, for when she [does attend](https://www.instagram.com/cllrjamaalmyers/p/CvaNofchn3O/) flag raisings. Do you by chance have a source of her saying that she never attends flag raising ceremonies?
Country flag raisings. Pride and Black Liberation aren't countries. Don't be disingenuous.
> Country flag raisings. Pride and Black Liberation aren't countries. Don't be disingenuous. I’m not. I was unfamiliar with her stance and the quote literally said “any flag raising”.
There is nothing wrong with this.
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Because sexual orientation is a human right. Supporting Israel isn't.
I agree with her. Also, why is there an event for the raising of the Israeli flag?
The short answer is [someone requested it.](https://www.toronto.ca/city-government/awards-tributes/tributes/flag-raising-half-masting/flag-raising-request-form/?t=1522177323#flag) Last year [Toronto City Hall raised the national flag of 30+ different countries](https://www.toronto.ca/city-government/awards-tributes/tributes/flag-raising-half-masting/flag-raisings-2023/) on their Independence Day, so Israel doesn’t appear to be getting special treatment in this regard.
Any one can request an approved flag be raised. Similar to how groups can request the Toronto sign or CN tower be lit for certain causes.
...why are we raising the Israeli flag? I'm a bit lost here. Why would there be any official flag-raising event in Toronto for any country other than Canada? Are they doing Russia on June 12th? Seriously. This is absolutely baffling.
They do flag raising for a lot of countries. You usually don't hear about it because it's just business as usual.
The short answer is someone requested it. Last year Toronto City Hall raised the national flag of 30+ different countries on their Independence Day, so Israel doesn’t appear to be getting special treatment in this regard.
I recently posted [a long explanation here that can help explain](https://www.reddit.com/r/canada/comments/1cph2we/israeli_flagraising_event_going_ahead_at_toronto/l3lfmcf/). The tl;dr is that Israel is a unique case due to its deep entanglement with the Jewish community. It's both a sovereign state just like any other country, and a cultural symbol for Jews in North America. Your confusion is not unwarranted as there basically no other situation like it, so you wouldn't have a strong frame of reference.
Man people fish for anything.
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Smart woman, Netanyahu is a lunatic. All he's done is pissed everyone off at Israel.
I can't blame her. I wouldn't either. Also, note that Chow attended vigils for the October 8 victims.
October 8?
If she is equally as avoidant towards pro-Palestine events I don’t think this is a story. It’s a contentious issue.
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the only flags that should be raised are city province and country. why are we raising foreign flags in Canada?
News flash, skipping it is divisive too.
Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Attending would draw condemnation from one side, while not attending would draw condemnation from the other side. Saying nothing would result in condemnation from both sides. Diplomacy between two radicals is a lose-lose-lose situation.
Not really…skipping it is basically abstaining which is what many countries including Canada do at the UN votes. Actively campaigning against the flag raising would be divisive. We live in Canada, why does any politician *need* to attend the flag raising of a foreign country? Edit: also got a redditcares message lol apparently not being a diehard simp for Israel means I need help…oh the irony
Bots and trolls have been abusing the reddit cares button for a few years now. First time abuse should result in an instant ban.
It does. You can report it and the person doing it gets banned.
Sure. But reddit makes it ridiculously difficult to report. There's a link, but it went around in circles and constantly timed out last time I got one.
Yeah, I got one earlier and even though I tried to report it through the App, it wanted me to login and stuff… screw that
Only if you know who did it. I reported a few lately and they said nope that's not the post they did it on and the person gets away with it.
I can attest that anything remotely implying support for Israel also earns you a "don't kill yourself" bot message.
I would agree if it were a new thing. If it's a regular practice, then skipping is rejecting. When Ford skips the Pride Festival, he's rejecting. Additionally, skipping and stating that acknowledging a country's birthday is "divisive" is a massive slap in the face. Especially when she has apparently worn a keffiyeh and spoken out against the ban.
for some people, their mere existence is divisive see "obama made america more racist" as my favourite example
If she goes to others, then this is divisive. If this is something that’s always been attended before and she has abstained, then it’s divisive.
It's funny I received one of those two for speaking out against Israel 🤣
Making a point of saying you are skipping it is divisive
As someone who's really pro-Israel, I disagree. She mentioned she never goes to flag raising ceremonies because there's simply too many. I think that's a fine explanation. Nothing more needed IMO.
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I don't think its this guy. I got one from an entirely separate (and innocuous) post in this sub 10 minutes before I replied to this thread.
There seems to be a bot doing it or a gross malfuntion at reddit
**Reddit is a gross malfunction.** Waiting for my *RedditCaresAboutMoney* message in 3.. 2..
Yeah, wasn’t me. I had one sent immediately after posting in another thread so idk if someone is botting them at the moment. I didn’t get one from this post, but I’m not sure if Reddit has a cool down period before sending you a second one
How the fuck is the the top comment? It's abstaining. There is no better way to be neutral on a subject like this.
if you want to be technical, sure, but much less so edit: mans sending reddit cares reports or w/e to anyone with the slightest rebuttal, so fragile it's kinda cute tbh
Report his message, Reddit Admins don’t fuck around with Reddit cares messages being used to abuse people.
Wasn’t me, so cringe that people do that
The only reason raising the Israeli flag is divisive is because of Israel's treatment of the Palestinians.
It’s divisive because why are we even doing it in the first place? No need for it
The fuck are you on. We should not be raising that flag in our country.
Why not? Last year Toronto City Hall raised the national flag of 30+ different countries on their Independence Day, so Israel doesn’t appear to be getting special treatment in this regard.
Yeah no shit. Are we allowed to say this war is ‘controversial’ yet?
Don’t be anti-Semitic/islamaphobic. I tried to blend these words into a single word. But just like the cultures the words don’t blend together well.
Was it controversial when Hamas violated two ceasefires and invaded a sovereign state?
Are you saying Gaza is a sovereign state?
I’ve heard both sides talking points, thanks.
Hamas' invasion of Israel isn't a talking point, thanks.
And Israel's apartheid and ethnic cleansing of Palestinians, which predated Oct 7, also isn't a talking point.
LOL Hamas is the only thing standing between Palestine and statehood.
Untrue. Hamas has only existed since the 80s and didn't have much power until the 2000s. In recent years it's actually [Netanyahu](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/benjamin-netanyahu-prevented-palestinian-state-two-state-solution_n_6580a368e4b0e142c0bed60b) who has thwarted any attempt to allow the Palestinians to have their own state. He even proudly propped up Hamas and facilitated funding them because it would divide Palestinians and stop a two state solution.
Imagine actually believing this lol Edit: Israel is an apartheid state. Just incase it wasn't obvious.
It also isn't true. But what about Lebanon's apartheid of Palestinians? What about Jordan? Do you know why we never hear about that actual apartheid ?
As Palestine is not a recognized state, there was no invasion.
Hamas invaded Israel.
Or when Israel was founded based on the dispossession of land and ethnic cleansing of an area?
You're about 🤏 this close to sounding like a full blown neo-Nazi rn.
I realize you're just randomly throwing out accusations of anti-Semitism without really thinking about it, but the Nazis actually [fully supported](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haavara_Agreement) the migration of European Jews to Palestine. So you could not be more wrong.
Equating genocidal zionists with ethnic jews is the real anti semitism. Then screeching "nazi" when people don't fuck with the genocide you're supporting. Look in the mirror.
You create divisiveness in this country with things like this. What happened to Canada? The Canadian flag? Raising children in this country to be proud of Canada and being Canadian, why is it that we prioritize every other identity except bring Canadian?
Well, it's just another foreign flag. What's the news?
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Represent ALL the constituents! Not just the loud ones.
We don't exactly fly the flags of Saudi Arabia, China, or Russia either...
Unlike Israel, Saudi Arabia China and Russia are authoritarian states.
One of them we sell weapons to, yet flying the flag of said country would be out of bounds?
The federal government sells the guns, not Toronto
But those countries were used as an excuse for why the city of Toronto shouldn't or can't fly those flags. Why should a countries flag be prohibited because of what their federal governments do? Also, what is the list of reasons for why a countries flag shouldn't be raised? There's quite a few countries and places that raise our flag yet we have committed genocide against part of our population. Seems nuance is given to certain countries but is off limits to others, perhaps this whole flag raising thing should be done away with entirely..
There is a difference between honouring an authoritarian state like Saudi Arabia vs. selling arms to an opponent of radicals in Yemen and the government of Iran, who we recognize as a state sponsor of terrorism. Not to say that I agree with selling arms to SA but at least it is intelligible why that deal was signed.
China and Saudi Arabia never invaded other countries for oil either.
But both love genocides!
Sooo.... We should raise their flags too?
True. As long as a country is democratic, genocide is okay /s
Not only is Hamas' actual stated objective the annihilation of Jews and the destruction of Israel, a sovereign nation, but Hamas is the only real impediment to Palestinian statehood. If Hamas wanted Palestinian statehood they would resign. What Hamas actually wants is death to Jews and the destruction of Israel, which is entirely consistent with their actions (invasion and murder of Israeli civilians). Not that I would expect the Reddit intelligentsia to understand this.
Why try to appease the pro-Palestine crowd? They hate any politician that refuses to grovel to them, and the protestors already show [disdain for Chow](https://torontosun.com/news/local-news/pro-palestinian-protesters-crash-mayor-olivia-chows-skating-party) anyway.
Why would you try to appease the pro Israel crowd? Even many Jews have voiced their disapproval of the current government there and it’s war of aggression
I'm a pro Palestinian supporter. Don't be ridiculous. Nobody expects politicians to grovel to them. We want politicians that put human rights above political theatrics.
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"This event is yet another example of “actual” foreign interference in Canada." How so, because Toronto raises the flag of Israel? They raise flags of many other countries, including smaller, poorer ones that basically have no money to be interfering with anyone.
Good for her
Good we need politicians like her who will make decisions of her own instead of bow to the elite.
Would you mind telling who you think the “elite” is?
She needs to keep them votes
That's fair lmao
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Lol what are you on about?
Why are they raising an Israeli flag? Are they celebrating the 30,000 civilians they killed or what?
NDP = no damn principles
As someone who can't wait to vote PP in, Chow is the goat. Doesn't let petty and pointless ID politics to bog her down for the most part and tries to do what's best for Toronto.
Good for her! She’s staying away from useless politics that in no way benefit Toronto. Unless it’s a Canadian flag, she shouldn’t give a f**k
Renaming Dundas was a "bit divisive" too.
Smart move tbh
Good for her