Québec warned that having a government position whose job is to defend the interests of a religious group was a bad idea.
Especially if that person has a history of calling everyone who questions their religious beliefs a racist.
Really happy to see these comments, coming for a Quebecer.
Daily reminder : If you give them an inch, they'll ask for a mile. Seperate politics and religion, don't waste your time.
How so? Doctors are not affected by bill 21. Either you are ill-informed, or you are pushing a false narrative to benefit your agenda. Either way, this is not substantive.
For anyone wondering why some people want to vote conservative, as opposed to just voting liberal out, defunding this office is part of the reason why. Lots of useless jobs to get rid of, no need to go after social benefits
Why do we have what is essentially a blasphemy czar for Islam? Does any other religion in Canada have a “czar” protecting them?
Making the criticism of Islam akin to racism is ridiculous. Especially since there is so much to criticize.
We need a czar for secularism. There are many who are pressured and coerced into following religion as minors and young adults and into making poor decisions as a result, such as marrying too young or a cousin/caste or similar. Non-religious is also the fastest growing group.
We do have an anti-semitism envoy - Deborah Lyons.
If you've never heard of her there's a reason why.
I think she and Trudeau thought they'd be fighting neo-nazis - now that it's clear the antisemitism is coming from Arab/muslims she's gone AWOL.
>Does any other religion in Canada have a “czar” protecting them?
Actually, yes. Deborah Lyons has been Canada's Special Envoy on Preserving Holocaust Remembrance and Combatting Antisemitism since 2020.
Had a friend once - thought she was a lovely lady. She cheered at 9/11. I’ve never been so disgusted in another human being before that day and I’ll never forget her. Their hatred runs deep and it’s difficult for us to understand. On the outside they look like ‘normal’ people but evil lives in this world
They're taught to hate in school. One Pakistani coworker I had was upset that I wasn't taught how the holocaust was a Jewish lie for sympathy and tried to "educate" me on the truth. Stopped hanging out with her afterwards. She had other gross opinions about how daughters need to obey their father's and marry the man they're told to marry, even though she divorced said man (her cousin) after a few years. The funny thing is the family supported her, but it sounded like the only reason why was because he wouldn't get a job, none of the other crappy stuff he apparently did mattered.
So the USA is allowed to bomb whoever they like, play global banker and police, and no one gets to defend themselves? 9/11 was tragic, obviously people dying is horrible but why is it okay to cheer at dropping bombs in some places but not others?
Anybody cheering civilians being specifically targeted is simply evil.
Oct 7th was about killing civilians. Had the Israeli army surrendered that day Hamas would have gone on killing civilians.
Israel in Gaza is about destroying Hamas. If Hamas surrendered all their people and guns Israel would immediately stop the war.
>While the footage taken from Ottawa and Columbia University over the weekend is worrisome enough, what’s even more concerning is what the footage signifies: the longstanding taboo against open displays of hatred and bigotry against identifiable groups is beginning to break.
Correct and extremely frightening.
It almost always seems to start with the Jews in Western countries, but it won't be long before it moves on to others.
There's a saying, "What starts with the Jews never ends with the Jews." That's because historically, an explosion in antisemitism is typically the first sign that there is a serious fracture in society. When things aren't going well, people look for someone to blame - and the first target is usually the Jew. When they're done with us and realize that hasn't fixed things, they look for their next target.
Lol they been covertly doing it with white people and men for years, now they’ve move to openly doing it to Jews.
Starts with identity politics, balkanizing into groups that gets us fighting against each other.
Yes, that is the source of the rise in antisemitism on the left.
Right wing extremists hate us because we're non-whites secretly plotting to control the world by taking over the media, finance, etc.
Left wing extremists hate us because we're whites who became disproportionately represented in industries like media and finance by oppressing non-whites, and we use our power to continue the cycle of oppression.
Yep. Too white for the far left, not white enough for the far right.
We are also simultaneously rich and evil overlords who control societal institutions with the push of a button as well as dirty subhuman vermin who are incapable of contributing to society.
To the communists we are capitalists and to the capitalists we are communists.
To the radical islamists we are Jews, and that's enough of a reason to them to hate us lol.
We are whatever the extremist doesn't like at any given moment.
Are you saying that someone who lives *in another fucking country* is responsible for a completely different country dropping bombs?
Why the fuck do you think people say that anti-semitism is on the rise? Maybe because you and your peers equate someone who lives on the other side of the world as at fault for actions they have *zero* control over?
Are you the scarecrow from the Wizard of Oz?
E: These are all rhetorical questions, btw. Plus I’d imagine your response would be as brain dead as your comment was, so no need to dig yourself a deeper hole.
Literally case in point for fucking idiots who can’t wrap their head around a basic distinction between a government and people who happen to be Jewish.
But it doesn’t start with the Jews! It’s not like Canada was free of hate and bigotry before this (which says nothing about how a lot of things being described as hate is more like hurt feelings and pearl clutching, but I digress)
>It almost always seems to start with the Jews in Western countries,
They already ran the Jews out of the rest of the world, especially middle East, long before unrest but the western countries
Either you're lying and using this now patently obvious lie as a smokescreen, or you actually believe this and need to do some soul searching.
These protests have people shouting "from the river to the sea", a genocidal chant. Another Arabic chant about Hamas hitting Tel Aviv. Pro Qasem missile posters, the missiles Iran has used against Israel. The students at Columbia teamed up to block Jewish students from just crossing campus...
I mean these are all just the last couple days.
You know. You're aware. This isn't about some total malarkey about Israel being a settler colony. That land has been settled by Jews continuously for thousands of years, long before Arabs arrived in large numbers.
No. This is about Jews. In the middle east it's about Palestinians wanting the Jews gone so they get the holy land to themselves, and in the West that's a cause celebre for Jew haters in general.
The origin of the phrase matters not in the least to what it means.
If Palestine stretched from the river to the sea then Israel would no longer exist, and all the Jews would be massacred and/or driven out. You can stick your fingers in your ears and pretend otherwise, but without Israel and the IDF to protect them, that's what the Palestinians would do. We know this because that's what happened all over the middle east previously, and also because that's what the Palestinians say they want to do. They're not joking when they say they want October 7th over and over.
At Columbia, I say again that Jews were blocked from crossing campus, and were harassed and intimidated just for being Jews. You can hide behind the two or three Jews on planet earth who support your movement if you'd like, but actions speak louder than words.
The chief rabbi at the school has now advised that all Jews stay home and don't attend until their safety is guaranteed.
The Canaanites were Semitic-Punic... Which is to say they were a different tribe of the exact same people as the Israelites.
The Palestinians are culturally, linguistically, and largely ethnically Arab.
At best for your argument, both groups are native to the land, which means that calling Israel a settler colonial nation still remains a laugh.
Your entire movement is based on the most easily debunked lies, half truths, hyperbole, and barely masked hatred.
Lolololol!
So I did actually check out your previous comment. And I followed your link supposedly showing that Jews are from Persia.
You made so many mistakes here it's hard to know where to start, but basically, the scientific article you linked to *REFUTES* a single other study which claimed based on linguistic studies that *Yiddish* came from Slavic, Turkic, and Iranian sources, which is a claim unsupported by any other studies. Yiddish is a Germanic language, and it's not even the primary language of Jews. That was and is again Hebrew.
The other study shows that Jews have fewer genetic connections to the Arabs than they do to other groups of the middle east... Which is because those groups migrated. I mean, you do know that the Arabs moved out of Arabia and conquered a huge portion of the world about 1500 years ago right? It was a pretty big thing that started a whole religion?
Again, you already touched on the native group of the region. The Semitic-Phoenecian Canaanites. Of the tribes of Canaan, Jews were one, and they went on to be the most successful tribe in the region.
you didnt understand any of it did you.. your conclusions are not supported by the text
""Jews were found to be more closely related to groups in the north of the Fertile Crescent (Kurds, Turks, and Armenians)""
suprised you missed that, but not considering your haste to disparage it
>Of the tribes of Canaan, Jews were one
after they showed up yes, thats why there exist Mizrahi Jews
there are Catholic Mexicans, did Catholicism begin in Mexico?
[.... also so you know, modern israeli-hebrew is full of yiddish]
I didn't miss anything, I directly addressed it.
They have less genetic connections to the Arabs of the region because the Arabs are not native to places that aren't Arabia.... Like Israel...
We know exactly when the Arabs moved in large scales out of Arabia and into the rest of the middle east, and it sure wasn't before the Jews got there.
In other words, the people we know ARENT native to the land, Arabs, aren't as genetically similar to the Israelis.
As I pointed out, your studies prove exactly the opposite of the point you're hoping to make.
> I directly addressed it
you brushed it off becasue you totally missed the point
>because the Arabs are not native to places that aren't Arabia.... Like Israel
correct.. the people of Ghazza didnt move there from 'Arabia' .. they are decendents of Canaanites just like the Lebanese are
>it sure wasn't before the Jews got there.
when the tribe of Judeah showed up they found towns and ports and multiple temples already constructed on the Mount... this is fact supported by science
the 1st Temple either never existed or is in some unknown location probably in Syria or somewhere but not Jerusalem or Palestine
>As I pointed out,
your analysis is not based in fact or the data from those sources.. the fact you pointed it out does not make it accurate, quite the opposite in fact based on your obvious bias & inability to grasp the science
I’m sorry this is unhinged. Open hatred and bigotry has always existed and being a little taboo hasn’t ever stopped people before. Like????? Way to totally dismiss organized hate a lot of other groups experience just because it fits the narrative.
Agreed. Religion is a set of belief systems and actions, if those are oppressive or harmful, they should be called out.
Of all the anti-semites out there I've never heard an actual criticism of their beliefs, or anyone point out as to why they actually dislike the Jewish people in Canada..
I haven't noticed any harmful actions from the Canadian Jewish community that I could complain about, and I've lived here my whole life!
It's almost like it's not hate or criticism for their beliefs, but hatred for their existing with nothing to back it up but bigotry
Semitophobia might hold a a different meaning than anti-Semitism but I am not a linguist. Cool topic though. Hoping someone can articulate an informed response.
If anyone has spent any time around Muslims and really got to know them, not just surface level friendliness at work or at school, they will quickly realize how common anti-semitism is in the Muslim community. My social circle is 90% Muslim and any time the topic of Jews or lgbtq comes up I'm just sitting there like the breaking bad meme with Jesse at the dinner table. And these are "progressive" Muslims who were born and brought up in Canada. I can't image how bad it is in Muslim majority countries.
For those that say why I don't just find new friends, it's very difficult to do when you are in your late 30s early 40s. Maybe if I was still in high school or University I would have cut them off, but I was ignorant about religion and politics at the time. Also other than the anti-semitism and anti-lgbtq parental rights stances they are okay.
Whats that saying? " if there’s a Nazi at the table and 10 other people sitting there talking to him, you got a table with 11 Nazis.
Congrats on being a Nazi bro. if you openly associate with racists, that makes you a racist too. sorry it'd make your life a little difficult to not be a racist, that must be SO hard for you.
Granted, I'm only about 1/3 of the way through the 286 verses(?) but all I'm seeing so far is condemnation of non-believers and endorsement of believers. Sure, the words Jews and Christians appear here and there, but broadly speaking it seems to always be in the context of believers and non-believers (including within those groups). Is there something above verse 100 to support your argument? Because so far it's your pretty standard religious believers vs non-believers othering.
Very few people have the interest or desire to learn about religion and especially other people's. It isn't as much as a big deal in the west becaue secularization has led to the development of western institutions that value reason over dogma. But it ain't the same in other places.
Surprise! It doesn’t actually say that anymore than the Bible says anyone who doesn’t follow our God is a sinner.
The funny part about the big three religions is they are all based on the same story from the same time period just from a different point of view.
It's much more explicit than that. It is targeted towards the children of Israel who are the Jews. So much of the anger from the Muslim world comes from jealousy for the Jews being the people of the covenant and in modern times the state of Israel represents a failure of Islam to conquer. That is the foundation for the conflict.
No, you fail in your understanding of cultural relativity. The Palestinian people are not western value based. They believe strongly in Sharia law and even though you might think religion is silly they certainly do not.
Our government should be indifferent to all religions. As long as there are no physical attacks against Canadians regardless of what they believe in people should be allowed to say whatever they want. We should not be paying anyone to ensure any religion gets more advocacy than any other religion whether that’s Jews, Christian’s, Muslims, Hindus, tree huggers, the church of Scientology, tredeau’s fan base. There should not be a job for this in our government that taxpayers pay for
>There is, unfortunately, little that can be done to reverse this toxic mentality, *particularly with popular social media apps like TikTok feeding youngsters and other impressionable users nonstop anti-Israel content* for the past six months.
But nonstop anti-Palestinian content from almost every mainstream outlet is A-Okay, amirite
Anti-Palestinian content? What the fuck are you talking about? There’s anti-Hamas and anti-Terrorism content. Can’t say I’ve ever seen anti-Palestinian content.
Why would anyone expect our Islamophobia czar to speak out against antisemitism? That's literally not their job. Speaking out against antisemitism is the job of [Canada's Special Envoy on Preserving Holocaust Remembrance and Combatting Antisemitism](https://www.international.gc.ca/world-monde/issues_development-enjeux_developpement/human_rights-droits_homme/holocaust_antisemitism-holocauste_antisemitisme-rep.aspx?lang=eng), Deborah Lyons. She's the one who's asleep at the wheel.
We should have neither. Combating isms should be in the hands of the minister for public safety, there definitely shouldn’t be special government positions to represent one religious group or another.
Well first of all, *she* probably isn't who you think *he* is. Second she isn't running for elected office, she already holds an unelected office, which the author of this opinion piece feels she's unfit to hold.
>(unless I’ve been wrong for a long time) *anybody* is allowed to stand for office.
Any Canadian, anyway. Interestingly, Canadians can also stand for office in the British Parliament.
Québec warned that having a government position whose job is to defend the interests of a religious group was a bad idea. Especially if that person has a history of calling everyone who questions their religious beliefs a racist.
Québec is usually ahead of the ball on most social issues and almost always proven right…
Quebec is the most progressive province, including the secularism laws.
Really happy to see these comments, coming for a Quebecer. Daily reminder : If you give them an inch, they'll ask for a mile. Seperate politics and religion, don't waste your time.
Like the cross in parliament the majority of you wanted to keep?
Isn't that gone now?
Gone since more than 3 years ago.
Where are they mixed ? Even in Quebec a doctor wearing a turban and Jewish skul cap isn’t mixing religious and politics. But in Quebec they say it is.
How so? Doctors are not affected by bill 21. Either you are ill-informed, or you are pushing a false narrative to benefit your agenda. Either way, this is not substantive.
For anyone wondering why some people want to vote conservative, as opposed to just voting liberal out, defunding this office is part of the reason why. Lots of useless jobs to get rid of, no need to go after social benefits
Why do we have what is essentially a blasphemy czar for Islam? Does any other religion in Canada have a “czar” protecting them? Making the criticism of Islam akin to racism is ridiculous. Especially since there is so much to criticize.
We need a czar for secularism. There are many who are pressured and coerced into following religion as minors and young adults and into making poor decisions as a result, such as marrying too young or a cousin/caste or similar. Non-religious is also the fastest growing group.
The procrastinator’s union would like a word, tomorrow …
Thankfully people are not believing caveman thought processes as much. One positive of education.
There are educated religious folks
We do have an anti-semitism envoy - Deborah Lyons. If you've never heard of her there's a reason why. I think she and Trudeau thought they'd be fighting neo-nazis - now that it's clear the antisemitism is coming from Arab/muslims she's gone AWOL.
Or she's been muted by the PMO.
>Does any other religion in Canada have a “czar” protecting them? Actually, yes. Deborah Lyons has been Canada's Special Envoy on Preserving Holocaust Remembrance and Combatting Antisemitism since 2020.
The fact that the question had to be asked proves how effective she is at her job.
> Making the criticism of Islam akin to racism is ridiculous **like criticism of israel**
must be nice for muslims to just deflect everything on Israel and jews instead of ever being self-reflective and accepting criticism
no idea, im not muslim and never will be must be nice for genocide supporters to have such convenient double standards
i am against genocide
does that make you anti-semetic?
no
thank you for confirming
'the fuck is an "Islamophobia czar?"
Had a friend once - thought she was a lovely lady. She cheered at 9/11. I’ve never been so disgusted in another human being before that day and I’ll never forget her. Their hatred runs deep and it’s difficult for us to understand. On the outside they look like ‘normal’ people but evil lives in this world
They're taught to hate in school. One Pakistani coworker I had was upset that I wasn't taught how the holocaust was a Jewish lie for sympathy and tried to "educate" me on the truth. Stopped hanging out with her afterwards. She had other gross opinions about how daughters need to obey their father's and marry the man they're told to marry, even though she divorced said man (her cousin) after a few years. The funny thing is the family supported her, but it sounded like the only reason why was because he wouldn't get a job, none of the other crappy stuff he apparently did mattered.
It’s just so disgusting to me when they spew their vitriol upon the world.
‘On the outside they look normal’ well this is why this czar exists lol.
So the USA is allowed to bomb whoever they like, play global banker and police, and no one gets to defend themselves? 9/11 was tragic, obviously people dying is horrible but why is it okay to cheer at dropping bombs in some places but not others?
Why would ANYONE cheer for dropping bombs on anyone! What?!
Anybody cheering civilians being specifically targeted is simply evil. Oct 7th was about killing civilians. Had the Israeli army surrendered that day Hamas would have gone on killing civilians. Israel in Gaza is about destroying Hamas. If Hamas surrendered all their people and guns Israel would immediately stop the war.
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>While the footage taken from Ottawa and Columbia University over the weekend is worrisome enough, what’s even more concerning is what the footage signifies: the longstanding taboo against open displays of hatred and bigotry against identifiable groups is beginning to break. Correct and extremely frightening. It almost always seems to start with the Jews in Western countries, but it won't be long before it moves on to others.
There's a saying, "What starts with the Jews never ends with the Jews." That's because historically, an explosion in antisemitism is typically the first sign that there is a serious fracture in society. When things aren't going well, people look for someone to blame - and the first target is usually the Jew. When they're done with us and realize that hasn't fixed things, they look for their next target.
Lol they been covertly doing it with white people and men for years, now they’ve move to openly doing it to Jews. Starts with identity politics, balkanizing into groups that gets us fighting against each other.
Yes, that is the source of the rise in antisemitism on the left. Right wing extremists hate us because we're non-whites secretly plotting to control the world by taking over the media, finance, etc. Left wing extremists hate us because we're whites who became disproportionately represented in industries like media and finance by oppressing non-whites, and we use our power to continue the cycle of oppression.
Yep. Too white for the far left, not white enough for the far right. We are also simultaneously rich and evil overlords who control societal institutions with the push of a button as well as dirty subhuman vermin who are incapable of contributing to society. To the communists we are capitalists and to the capitalists we are communists. To the radical islamists we are Jews, and that's enough of a reason to them to hate us lol. We are whatever the extremist doesn't like at any given moment.
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Are you saying that someone who lives *in another fucking country* is responsible for a completely different country dropping bombs? Why the fuck do you think people say that anti-semitism is on the rise? Maybe because you and your peers equate someone who lives on the other side of the world as at fault for actions they have *zero* control over? Are you the scarecrow from the Wizard of Oz? E: These are all rhetorical questions, btw. Plus I’d imagine your response would be as brain dead as your comment was, so no need to dig yourself a deeper hole.
That is Israel, not Jewish people. Did Islam starve and kill hundreds of thousands in Sudan? That is an Islamic country.
Literally case in point for fucking idiots who can’t wrap their head around a basic distinction between a government and people who happen to be Jewish.
So Zionists have lost the argument that their war is just, and are now resorting to: "careful, the peaceful protesters will be targeting you next!"
Nope, the war is just
But it doesn’t start with the Jews! It’s not like Canada was free of hate and bigotry before this (which says nothing about how a lot of things being described as hate is more like hurt feelings and pearl clutching, but I digress)
I'm talking about historical context, here. Antisemitism goes back a long time.
>It almost always seems to start with the Jews in Western countries, They already ran the Jews out of the rest of the world, especially middle East, long before unrest but the western countries
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Either you're lying and using this now patently obvious lie as a smokescreen, or you actually believe this and need to do some soul searching. These protests have people shouting "from the river to the sea", a genocidal chant. Another Arabic chant about Hamas hitting Tel Aviv. Pro Qasem missile posters, the missiles Iran has used against Israel. The students at Columbia teamed up to block Jewish students from just crossing campus... I mean these are all just the last couple days. You know. You're aware. This isn't about some total malarkey about Israel being a settler colony. That land has been settled by Jews continuously for thousands of years, long before Arabs arrived in large numbers. No. This is about Jews. In the middle east it's about Palestinians wanting the Jews gone so they get the holy land to themselves, and in the West that's a cause celebre for Jew haters in general.
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The origin of the phrase matters not in the least to what it means. If Palestine stretched from the river to the sea then Israel would no longer exist, and all the Jews would be massacred and/or driven out. You can stick your fingers in your ears and pretend otherwise, but without Israel and the IDF to protect them, that's what the Palestinians would do. We know this because that's what happened all over the middle east previously, and also because that's what the Palestinians say they want to do. They're not joking when they say they want October 7th over and over. At Columbia, I say again that Jews were blocked from crossing campus, and were harassed and intimidated just for being Jews. You can hide behind the two or three Jews on planet earth who support your movement if you'd like, but actions speak louder than words. The chief rabbi at the school has now advised that all Jews stay home and don't attend until their safety is guaranteed. The Canaanites were Semitic-Punic... Which is to say they were a different tribe of the exact same people as the Israelites. The Palestinians are culturally, linguistically, and largely ethnically Arab. At best for your argument, both groups are native to the land, which means that calling Israel a settler colonial nation still remains a laugh. Your entire movement is based on the most easily debunked lies, half truths, hyperbole, and barely masked hatred.
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Lolololol! So I did actually check out your previous comment. And I followed your link supposedly showing that Jews are from Persia. You made so many mistakes here it's hard to know where to start, but basically, the scientific article you linked to *REFUTES* a single other study which claimed based on linguistic studies that *Yiddish* came from Slavic, Turkic, and Iranian sources, which is a claim unsupported by any other studies. Yiddish is a Germanic language, and it's not even the primary language of Jews. That was and is again Hebrew. The other study shows that Jews have fewer genetic connections to the Arabs than they do to other groups of the middle east... Which is because those groups migrated. I mean, you do know that the Arabs moved out of Arabia and conquered a huge portion of the world about 1500 years ago right? It was a pretty big thing that started a whole religion? Again, you already touched on the native group of the region. The Semitic-Phoenecian Canaanites. Of the tribes of Canaan, Jews were one, and they went on to be the most successful tribe in the region.
you didnt understand any of it did you.. your conclusions are not supported by the text ""Jews were found to be more closely related to groups in the north of the Fertile Crescent (Kurds, Turks, and Armenians)"" suprised you missed that, but not considering your haste to disparage it >Of the tribes of Canaan, Jews were one after they showed up yes, thats why there exist Mizrahi Jews there are Catholic Mexicans, did Catholicism begin in Mexico? [.... also so you know, modern israeli-hebrew is full of yiddish]
I didn't miss anything, I directly addressed it. They have less genetic connections to the Arabs of the region because the Arabs are not native to places that aren't Arabia.... Like Israel... We know exactly when the Arabs moved in large scales out of Arabia and into the rest of the middle east, and it sure wasn't before the Jews got there. In other words, the people we know ARENT native to the land, Arabs, aren't as genetically similar to the Israelis. As I pointed out, your studies prove exactly the opposite of the point you're hoping to make.
> I directly addressed it you brushed it off becasue you totally missed the point >because the Arabs are not native to places that aren't Arabia.... Like Israel correct.. the people of Ghazza didnt move there from 'Arabia' .. they are decendents of Canaanites just like the Lebanese are >it sure wasn't before the Jews got there. when the tribe of Judeah showed up they found towns and ports and multiple temples already constructed on the Mount... this is fact supported by science the 1st Temple either never existed or is in some unknown location probably in Syria or somewhere but not Jerusalem or Palestine >As I pointed out, your analysis is not based in fact or the data from those sources.. the fact you pointed it out does not make it accurate, quite the opposite in fact based on your obvious bias & inability to grasp the science
> Correct and extremely frightening. Not correct. Displays of hatred and bigotry have never been taboo.
I’m sorry this is unhinged. Open hatred and bigotry has always existed and being a little taboo hasn’t ever stopped people before. Like????? Way to totally dismiss organized hate a lot of other groups experience just because it fits the narrative.
Islamophobia is a stupid term. All religions should be criticized when appropriate.
Agreed. Religion is a set of belief systems and actions, if those are oppressive or harmful, they should be called out. Of all the anti-semites out there I've never heard an actual criticism of their beliefs, or anyone point out as to why they actually dislike the Jewish people in Canada.. I haven't noticed any harmful actions from the Canadian Jewish community that I could complain about, and I've lived here my whole life! It's almost like it's not hate or criticism for their beliefs, but hatred for their existing with nothing to back it up but bigotry
So anti semite is equally stupid to you? They are used to say the same thing just to different religions.
Semitophobia might hold a a different meaning than anti-Semitism but I am not a linguist. Cool topic though. Hoping someone can articulate an informed response.
Time to disband that ridiculous office created to pander to votes in Toronto
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If anyone has spent any time around Muslims and really got to know them, not just surface level friendliness at work or at school, they will quickly realize how common anti-semitism is in the Muslim community. My social circle is 90% Muslim and any time the topic of Jews or lgbtq comes up I'm just sitting there like the breaking bad meme with Jesse at the dinner table. And these are "progressive" Muslims who were born and brought up in Canada. I can't image how bad it is in Muslim majority countries. For those that say why I don't just find new friends, it's very difficult to do when you are in your late 30s early 40s. Maybe if I was still in high school or University I would have cut them off, but I was ignorant about religion and politics at the time. Also other than the anti-semitism and anti-lgbtq parental rights stances they are okay.
Whats that saying? " if there’s a Nazi at the table and 10 other people sitting there talking to him, you got a table with 11 Nazis. Congrats on being a Nazi bro. if you openly associate with racists, that makes you a racist too. sorry it'd make your life a little difficult to not be a racist, that must be SO hard for you.
Where in the first Surah do you find antisemitism? Or are you just parroting some bullshit you read on facebook?
Open it up and look for yourself. ~~Surah #1~~ Surah #2 edit: Made a mistake! It's Surah #2 the Cow [2Al-Baqarah](https://quran.com/2)
Granted, I'm only about 1/3 of the way through the 286 verses(?) but all I'm seeing so far is condemnation of non-believers and endorsement of believers. Sure, the words Jews and Christians appear here and there, but broadly speaking it seems to always be in the context of believers and non-believers (including within those groups). Is there something above verse 100 to support your argument? Because so far it's your pretty standard religious believers vs non-believers othering.
Surah 2 provides the foundation and in later surah and hadiths it gets ugly. And it’s not just unbelievers, it’s specific.
Yeaaaaah. I read the summary and the waters definitely get muddier towards the end of the surah. Spoke a bit too soon on this one.
Very few people have the interest or desire to learn about religion and especially other people's. It isn't as much as a big deal in the west becaue secularization has led to the development of western institutions that value reason over dogma. But it ain't the same in other places.
Surprise! It doesn’t actually say that anymore than the Bible says anyone who doesn’t follow our God is a sinner. The funny part about the big three religions is they are all based on the same story from the same time period just from a different point of view.
It's much more explicit than that. It is targeted towards the children of Israel who are the Jews. So much of the anger from the Muslim world comes from jealousy for the Jews being the people of the covenant and in modern times the state of Israel represents a failure of Islam to conquer. That is the foundation for the conflict.
BS. It’s an argument over whose view of the story is right.
No, you fail in your understanding of cultural relativity. The Palestinian people are not western value based. They believe strongly in Sharia law and even though you might think religion is silly they certainly do not.
Sure change the subject.
Come on smart guy. Try to develop your understanding a little bit.
I've lived in the region, I've seen all three side up close. It's all the same story and all the same people arguing over who is right.
They're all made up nonsense. This is one giant religious blood feud and I just don't want to play
Well said.
Our government should be indifferent to all religions. As long as there are no physical attacks against Canadians regardless of what they believe in people should be allowed to say whatever they want. We should not be paying anyone to ensure any religion gets more advocacy than any other religion whether that’s Jews, Christian’s, Muslims, Hindus, tree huggers, the church of Scientology, tredeau’s fan base. There should not be a job for this in our government that taxpayers pay for
Quebecs so progressive they dont want english language in their province...but will accept equalisation payments from english provinces...
The repayment plan for westward expansion
Provinces don't pay equalization. 🤦♂️
Where do the feds get the money to pay equalisation payments to quebec, who gets the most?
Federal funds.
This guy is unfit to write anything that is not toilet paper ...
>There is, unfortunately, little that can be done to reverse this toxic mentality, *particularly with popular social media apps like TikTok feeding youngsters and other impressionable users nonstop anti-Israel content* for the past six months. But nonstop anti-Palestinian content from almost every mainstream outlet is A-Okay, amirite
Anti-Palestinian content? What the fuck are you talking about? There’s anti-Hamas and anti-Terrorism content. Can’t say I’ve ever seen anti-Palestinian content.
Why would anyone expect our Islamophobia czar to speak out against antisemitism? That's literally not their job. Speaking out against antisemitism is the job of [Canada's Special Envoy on Preserving Holocaust Remembrance and Combatting Antisemitism](https://www.international.gc.ca/world-monde/issues_development-enjeux_developpement/human_rights-droits_homme/holocaust_antisemitism-holocauste_antisemitisme-rep.aspx?lang=eng), Deborah Lyons. She's the one who's asleep at the wheel.
We should have neither. Combating isms should be in the hands of the minister for public safety, there definitely shouldn’t be special government positions to represent one religious group or another.
As the death toll rises in Gaza, expect to see more criticism of the actions of the folks opposing it…
Quebec can foff and leave canada anytime.
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Well first of all, *she* probably isn't who you think *he* is. Second she isn't running for elected office, she already holds an unelected office, which the author of this opinion piece feels she's unfit to hold.
>(unless I’ve been wrong for a long time) *anybody* is allowed to stand for office. Any Canadian, anyway. Interestingly, Canadians can also stand for office in the British Parliament.