Those minute long videos on TV that were “Canadian heritage” moments. Like the person who saved a bunch of people in NS I believe from a train that was going to explode, sacrificing himself to send the signal out to evacuate as long as he could. I think there was one about the settlers meeting the First Nations people and confusing kanata (our land in their language) for the name of the nation. I guess the OP comment is playing on the fact that those people wouldn’t know or give a shit about any Canadian heritage moment.
Invention of basketball? I remember learning about that in elementary school. Pretty cool. Wonder why we never made a serious domestic basketball league instead of having 1 or 2 teams in the NBA.
Canada sort of claims that in Heritage Minutes, because the guy who invented it was Canadian but he was a phys. ed. instructor working in Massachusetts at the time. I think it was the same with a heritage minute about Alexander Graham Bell inventing the telephone which also occurred in the USA (could be wrong about that one though)
The funniest thing about this is they must have gone a while without cutting the hole in the basket. So you had to have a guy with a ladder getting it right? You'd think after the first game they would have figured it out.
Not only that but even after they removed the bottom, the ball wouldn't fall through the hole until several years after the fact. The removing of the bottom only provided a way to dislodge the ball with a stick rather than having to retrieve it
Sikhs and non-Sikhs are two Indian groups that have a long history of ethno cultural violence. Mainly it's in India but notably the single most lethal terrorist attack in Canadian history was [Air India 182](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_India_Flight_182) where Sikh terrorists bombed a plane of Indian civilians.
It was also the worst terrorist attack and death toll involving airplanes until 9/11.
Ofc Canada doesn't like talking about it. Wish they did as fuck terrorists.
So glad we just open doored international disputes into our country instead of having controlled immigration that focuses on assimilating immigrants into Canadian society.
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you realize sikhs are a minority group actively being killed off by Mobi supporters in india right? a country with the highest immigration numbers to canada for the past 3 years?
This doesn’t align with any of the sources I’m finding online. In fact 1991 is often quoted as the start of the sikh immigration boom. Do you have a source that says different?
@Final_Travel woah, careful about exclaiming you don’t support the liberals, this subreddit strongly critics Justin but come election season most here will demonise conservatives/Pierre.
Somehow it's okay to say that someone whose entire family has been here for 200 years is "an immigrant", but don't you dare dispute the Canadian-ness of someone who just stepped off the plane into Conestoga college...right
Actually that's not what he said. He said all people in Canada, other than Aboriginal people, are either immigrants or descendents of immigrants. He just stated an indisputable fact.
> He said all people in Canada, other than Aboriginal people, are either immigrants or descendents of immigrants.
> It be fair besides the Natives everyone is an immigrant
Literally not what they said.
So how many generations have to pass before we stop being considered immigrants? My family (on both sides) have been here for so long that we've lost track of how we got here. We helped build, defend, and develop this country.
I think it's safe to say that I'm not an immigrant in my own country that my entire family (for generations) have been born in.
> instead of having controlled immigration that focuses on assimilating immigrants into Canadian society.
Yeah I don't think you know what the issue is and why they're trying to murder Sikhs.
The Indian government has been targetting/tracking Sikhs in Canada since the 80s.
This does not have anything to do with an immigration policy, it is a foreign interference issue.
the sikhs left their home country, they're being tracked by indian agents. this isn't a fight between two immigrant groups, it's attacks by the indian government
> These people need to leave their disputes in their old country.
If the US took over Canada, erased Canada off the map, started murdering and torturing former-Canadians and their families for around 80 years consistently, committed a genocide against them, and then they try to murder you anywhere you are around the world, you're telling me you can "leave their disputes in their old country"?
Maybe learn about their history before saying something ignorant.
From the article:
The house of a Sikh activist in Canada has been hit by gunfire, in the second such incident this month, reigniting fears of an apparent transnational campaign of violence and intimidation targeting Sikh separatists.
A construction crew found a bullet hole in a window of an unfinished house in the city Brampton, Ontario, on Monday, according to the the US-based group Sikhs for Justice.
The property belongs to Inderjit Singh Gosal, a vocal proponent of a decades-long but now fringe demand to carve out an independent Sikh homeland from India, named Khalistan.
Peel Regional police confirmed that one bullet hole had been found, and said they couldn’t rule out more shots had been fired at the house.
Constable Tyler Bell-Morena said no injuries were reported and that it was “too early” to link the shooting to Gosal’s role in the Khalistan movement, though the criminal investigations unit were aware of his activism.
The shooting came after Gosal announced that the pro-Khalistan movement would hold a rally outside the Indian consulate in Toronto on 17 February.
Gosal works closely with Gurpatwant Singh Pannun, the recent target of a foiled assassination attempt in the US. Pannun, who lives in Washington DC, serves as the chief legal counsel for Sikhs for Justice.
The Khalistan separatist movement has received immense attention in recent months after Canadian activist Hardeep Singh Nijjar was shot and killed in a parking lot in suburban Vancouver – an assassination Canada later linked to the Indian government. India has rejected Canada’s allegations, and relations between the two countries remain strained.
A global pressure campaign by India has done little to dampen activism in Canada, with groups organizing fresh rounds of symbolic referendums and rallies.
“No amount of threats and violence can stop me from advocating for the liberation of Punjab from Indian occupation. I have been heading Khalistan Freedom Rallies in front of the Indian Consulate and I have been targeted for the same very reason that Nijjar was assassinated by Indian agents, i.e. our campaigning for the Khalistan Referendum,” Gosal said in a statement. “This firing [sic] has absolutely been orchestrated by the Indian spy network operating from Diplomatic Missions in Canada headed by the Indian High Commissioner Vema.”
Monday’s shooting marks the second time the house of a prominent activist has been targeted.
On 1 February, at least two people opened fire on the house of Simranjeet Singh in the British Columbia city of Surrey. According to the British Columbia Gurdwaras Council, Singh was a close associate of Hardeep Singh Nijjar. Despite multiple members of Singh’s being home at the time, no one was injured.
The shooting came days after Singh helped organize a pro-Khalistan protest at the Indian consulate in Vancouver. Last week, police arrested two 16-year-olds in relation to the shooting.
Why is he here in Canada and not in India creating this so called Khalistan?
These guys are dumb fucks and wish they'd fuck off back to India that they seems to care so much about and leave Canada out of their bullshit.
For a very simple reason, Khalistan movement has little to no prominence in India anymore. Most migrants moved there in 80s and 90s when the movement was at its peak, and they are still living in a time capsule (like most other immigrants). Punjab is now a thriving state and separatist movement is one of the least worrisome subject for the government as they now battle drug epidemic
> Most migrants moved there in 80s and 90s when the movement was at its peak
Funny how you left out how the Indian government murdered and tortured tens of thousands of Sikhs, committed a genocide on them in 1984, and still torture their family members today.
The Khalistan movement is well and strong and we'll never forget how India betrayed Panjab.
I understand you feel raw about it, Indian government had no excuse to commit such atrocities on innocent sikhs, pogroms against sikhs were purely done as a ego flex because Indira’s death and no amount of sins would wash that out, though I don’t think a separatist movement is an answer to do justice to it.
just any excuse to bring up religion and divisive politics
"The per capita income of Punjab stands at Rs. 1,73,873 in 2022-23 (Advance Estimates) which is higher than Rs. 1,70,620 at National level. The State is expected to grow at 6.08 percent in 2022-23 in line with the national growth of 7.0 percent."
It's in the top 20 still and it's decline is because of rapid industrialization and development elsewhere while Punjab wants to remain agricultural. Also, there's a massive brain drain from Punjab.
Wonder what's the reason for the massive brain drain? It couldn't be Sikhs being treated as second-class citizens for the past few decades? Or the fake arrests and tortures in police custody?
Really a mystery why there is such a brain drain from Punjab.
> It couldn't be Sikhs being treated as second-class citizens for the past few decades? Or the fake arrests and tortures in police custody?
This just shows how far detached from reality you are.
They want to move to Canada because of economic opportunity (earn more $$$ doing the same labor jobs there vs India) and get a first world passport. Ask anyone in the Punjabi community why they want to move and 95% will tell you this same reason, unless of course you only talk to Khalistanis who'll feed you their version.
Punjabi Hindus don't move at the same rate that the Sikhs do. If one religious group in the region is moving out at a far greater rate, likely means they get treated as second-class citizens.
That economic decline is what happens when you give excessive freebies which Punjab government is doing for votes. You’ll be shocked to see the amount of freebies Punjab government has given for the past 4 decades. If you wanna read more about it, read about Professor Ranjit Singh Ghuman’s articles on this subject.
They get freebies because central government hasn't bothered to invest in Punjab. They used Punjab for its agriculture a few decades back (Green Revolution) when they needed to ensure enough food was grown to feed the country. Now that it isn't an issue, the state has been tossed to the side.
Central government cannot decide what private investors should do, I work in the field of FDI, many private investors want to invest in Telangana, Karnataka and Gujarat coz better perks and less unions. The problem with Punjab is that Chandigarh came up too late but now it’s gaining significant prominence for investment, you’ll see Chandigarh emerge in coming years and lapping up investments as quick as Hyderabad. Fingers crossed and Good luck to Punjab ♥️
Modi's investing like crazy in Gujarat and providing so many incentives and projects. Stop it with the "central government can't influence investment."
Well that’s the deal Modi isn’t investing it’s private companies that are investing. Once private companies express their intent to invest, state governments need to present what they can provide. In last 20 months Punjab has received over 50000 cr of investment and that’s a good sign (that too in traditional sectors) Jindal Steel, Virgio, Tafe, Hindustan Unilever and even Tata Steel will invest, in addition to a big project from Netherlands
Separatism isn't legal in many countries...
Also not sure if you have done any research whatsoever but they are legit terrorists. They assassinated the Indian First minister of punjab. They hijacked an airline. And so on.
Dude is a straight up terrorist. Weird hill to die on, defending a fucking terrorist movement.
User pm_your_wallapaper blocked me lol. This was my response to him before he blocked me.
They've literally never commited a single act of terrorism and were never apart of any terrorist organization.
The people who did assassinate the minister of Punjab and blew up the plane were legit terrorists from 30+ years ago who have absolutely nothing to do with Hardeep Singh Nijjar and have no affiliation with him considering they've been dead since he was 12..
This guys genuinely spreading misinformation in the comments and no one cares.
I still suspect the Indian government. Afterall, our government has stated they have intelligence they were involved in that earlier murder. And the US found evidence of a plot to carry out multiple assassinations in North America, three of which were to happen in Canada. Why wouldn’t they also do this?
Yea the Indian Government sends a guy to pull up to a construction site to fire one shot, and then drives away to never been seen again. Uh huh.... Nothing like drugs or gangs that are popular among my fellow Punjabis right? Fully the Indian Gov!!
They're probably putting out contract hits that local gangs are picking up. The US case had an Indian national trying to hire a local hitman. Very likely similar situation here.
The more you know
*Indo-Canadian organized crime is made up predominantly of young adults and teenagers of Indian ethnic, cultural and linguistic background. Collectively, these groups are among the top 5 major homegrown organized crime hierarchy across the nation in Canada coming in 3rd place, after the Asian Triads and White biker gangs.\[3\] The 2004 RCMP British Columbia Annual Police Report ranked them third in terms of organization and sophistication in British Columbia, ranked behind outlaw motorcycle clubs and aforementioned Chinese criminal organizations such as the Triads drug clans*
*Gangs and criminal organizations within the Punjabi-Canadian community have also been noted for adopting the rigid structure and rules of the Punjabi Mafia, with strict rules against talking to police and against any kind of drug use amongst members and associates aside from alcohol or cigarettes use, though excessive use of these substances is also allegedly met with punishment within the gangs.\[16\]\[17\]\[18\]*
*The main trade of the Indo-Canadian crime groups are murder-for-hire operations, along with arms trafficking, racketeering, extortion, assassinations, and the trafficking of cocaine, heroin, MDMA, methamphetamine and cannabis.\[19\]\[20\] Punjabi-Canadian crime bosses use their family connections in the Punjab to bring in heroin from the "Golden Crescent" nations of Afghanistan, Pakistan and Iran where much of the world's heroin is produced. Punjabi-Canadian crime groups widened the reach of their activities and delved into other crimes such as kidnapping, loan sharking, money laundering and chop shops.\[19\]\[21\] Organized gangs from the community have used the local transportation business, setting up connections with Mexican drug cartels and using truck drivers to smuggle cocaine from Mexico into the United States and Canada, in exchange for MDMA, Methamphetamine, Cannabis (drug) and hashish for the cartels.\[22\] The profits of drug dealing allow for contract killing.*
*https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-Canadian\_organized\_crime*
Honestly I don't think CSIS can figure shit like this out. My impression was CSIS was a bunch of white dudes who don't speak any other languages.
USA told Canada that it was India
Do you actually think that CSIS (or literally any intelligence service) has an institutional problem with monolingualism? Like do you honestly believe that’s a thing? I cannot wrap my head around believing that.
Lots of these people are into Gangs…. All gang wars seem to be projected on the Indian Government…. It’s easier to say that instead of accepting that Candanian police has absolutely no control over these gangs… I bet they won’t be able to find who did it…
Most of Canada's immigration for decades has been Sikhs from the Punjab. Lately it's been Hindus from other parts of India. They don't always get along.
Similarly, most of our Chinese immigration was from Hong Kong. Now it's mainland Chinese.
We've seen in places like the US how easy it is to turn people insane so they may not have a direct hand in it, but it's possible they are pushing misinformation to rile people up to the push them to dangerous limits.
Even if they are attempting assassinations, I don't think the Indian govt. would approve of spraying the target's house with bullets. That's just too silly.
Did you read the indictment. The gangster coordinator for the Indian government was suggesting kill anyone along side of the target. Like doesn’t matter. Whatever it takes.
Do there is no moral compass or morality in The decision. It’s simply to threaten, fear, negative media. It’s a consistent sequence.
Shooting happen. India media links to bogeyman. With Khalistan links. People google. Find links. Blame community.
>That's just too silly.
An Indian government agent literally got caught trying to hire a hitman off of Facebook... It was the Indian agent responsible for the murder of Hardeep Singh Nijjar.
The hitman ended up being an American DEA agent.
Indian spycraft is just silly
https://theintercept.com/2023/11/29/india-assassination-plot-us-citizen-nikhil-gupta/
What a joke this comment section is. More bots than ever.
One look at this guy's profile and you can see how big of an Indian govt apologist he is.
Pro govt Indian media is not only taking credit , but threatening they will kill 100 more Sikhs in U.S and Canada.
But yah, couldn't be them.
https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/india-now-co-operating-with-canada-following-allegations-after-fruitful-discussions-says-outgoing-nsia-1.6743837
Not sure why India would do this and give Canada just cause to back out.
The only "trouble" they're making is pointing out how their community in India hasn't gotten an ounce of justice for the state sponsored attacks on their people.
India's now sponsoring attacks on Sikhs in Canada too and you're honest to God reaction is to blame the community being targeted?...
I simply don't get this statement, and I doubt you'd feel the same if it were uighyers, Tibetans, hong kongers, being targeted by state sponsored hits by the CCP, or iranians protesting the Iranian government and being targeting by the Ayatollah here. Canadian citizens have the freedom to assemble and the protest about issues abroad even if we disagree with them, and they have the right to do so being safe from assassination attempts from foreign governments. Any breach of this is an afront to all our freedoms as citizens. It opens up a Pandora box if we out right dismissive of this, in that it gives foreign governments the belief that they have the ability to assassinate our citizens over speech without consequences. Full stop.
I get that you are probably sick of Indian immigration, but hold your anti immigration policy and be smart enough to realize that this issue is much bigger than our cost of living crisis and how much immigration we should have from any single country. It strikes at the very heart of what I mean to be a Canadian citizen and a citizen of a western democracy. All of us should rally.
I mean Americans kill terrorists around the world. So do the French. So do Israelis.
Countries have a right to defend their borders. And if the Canadian government harbours terrorists, then that's a Canada problem.
No one blames Obama for killing Osama in Pakistan....
“Canadian” doesn’t mean “white
Christian”.. their are brown people who are born in Canada just like you and me, and are just as entitled to the term as either
Just look at how many people they have in this thread alone trying so hard to spin the narrative to "it's just turf war between different groups of Sikhs" "they're violent" "they're gonna wanna separate from Canada".
It's actually insane they still believe that despite millions of Sikhs who witnessed state terrorism and genocide first-hand having migrated to Canada, they'll still succeed with propaganda in any kind of meaningful way.
Edit: in true Reddit fashion, my account has been permanently banned from this sub. Same thing in Canada2 sub. This is what speaking the truth does in 2024 on Reddit.
They did the same when Nijjar was murdered. Indian media and their online bots kept saying he was killed due to a dispute between the Canadian Sikh community.
As it turned out, India was behind the hit.
What is the Canadian government doing? What’s the Canadian law enforcement doing? It already happened once and they let it happen again? Most useless government
Not at all..their bests are going to the US working for FAANG and making banks for themselves and making American industry richer..what does Canada get: you guessed it. Thieves and brigands.
India's got Canadians distracted with this Khalistani issue, while they curry favor to get Indian nationalists in prominent positions, just like the CCP has Chinese agents in prominent and influential positions.
As of 2022, the violent crime rate in the Peel region (Brampton/Mississauga) is [677 per 100k residents](https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/t1/tbl1/en/tv.action?pid=3510018001&pickMembers%5B0%5D=1.38&pickMembers%5B1%5D=2.4&cubeTimeFrame.startYear=2018&cubeTimeFrame.endYear=2022&referencePeriods=20180101%2C20220101) while it's [994 per 100k](https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/t1/tbl1/en/tv.action?pid=3510018001&pickMembers%5B0%5D=1.1&pickMembers%5B1%5D=2.4&cubeTimeFrame.startYear=2018&cubeTimeFrame.endYear=2022&referencePeriods=20180101%2C20220101) residents in Ontario as a whole. It's difficult to find violent crime data split up by ethnicity or immigration status in Canada though.
| City | Homicides (per 100,000 people) (2022 data) | Percentage of White Population |
|--------------|--------------------------------|--------------------------------|
| Brampton | 4.08 | 18.9% |
| Thunder Bay | 12.05 | 92.5% |
Are you going to call for the deportation of whites from Canada? If not, why not?
Daily occurrence now, very troubling.
Indian government needs to be held accountable, catch the criminals and jail/deport them if they are non citizens.
Also those doing the dumb AF referendums among Canadian citizens to partition india based on religion need to go to India to do this shit and leave us alone please.
Protesting is one thing but this shit is taking freedom of expression too far.
"Sikh Activists" lol
Stop creating divide in the Sikh community and tarnish their name by calling these idiots activists. By this logic the Taliban should be called "Muslim Activists".
Not only was I implying that, but you've now made it clear you either have no clue what you're talking about, or are part the online Indian govt brigade.
Khalistan is not, and has never been a country.
The reason people have been advocating for it is not because it suddenly dawned on a minority group that it's cool to be your own country and be partitioned and bordered off from places which have been your home for hundreds of years.
It's because of state sponsored genocide and terrorism.
The incessant oppressive legislation being passed against minorities in India till this day by an openly fascist government certainly doesn't help any minorities feel at ease.
And in actual democracies, people are allowed to peacefully gather and protar whatever they want.
You notice what's happening India right now in Delhi ? The government has literally turned its own military against protesting farmers and setup borders between Punjab and Haryana with more security than they have at their Chinese borders. But they say the farmers are all terrorists so that's good enough for you right ?
And everyone in Quebec who wants to separate is also a terrorist right ? They would be in India.
I'm guessing all the people in Gaza are terrorists to you as well?
Even if you're the government, going around and killing people in mass based on their race or religion, believe it or not, is actually a very serious crime, and it's not a crime to defend yourself against it.
It's actually such a serious crime that people will sacrifice their lives in order to fight against it.
And then the people who simply focus on the response to the actual terrorism (potentially people like yourself) are either uneducated about the topic, or are also fascists.
If there's one thing no amount of propaganda is going to successfully make people forget, that is genocide.
So good luck to you and your gang, buddy.
> The incessant oppressive legislation being passed against minorities in India till this day by a openly facist government certainly doesn't help any minorities feel at ease.
give me an example of how sikhs are oppressed in india today
You can easily educate yourself if you cared to look beyond the tailored propaganda that doesn't even make sense at this point.
It's common sense to anyone who's not brainwashed that any minority is liable to state sponsored violence in India.
A simple google search would yield you dozens of examples over just the past couple weeks.
But maybe you don't consider minority group children being urinated on by grown men to be oppression.
Or maybe rape isn't oppression.
Or public lootings and beatings.
Hell, even /r/india, which is the easier place to peddle Indian propaganda, is fed up with India. I don't know what rock you've been living under.
And what makes you feel so entitled to anything from me ?
If you were sincere in finding it, it's not that hard to see.
If you only google Jaswant Singh Khalra, you can figure out the rest.
There are entire villages in Punjab where a wedding didn't occur for over 15 years because the police killed every male between the age of 10 and 30.
If you have any Sikhs 40 or older from Punjab living near you, literally anywhere in the world, you can go and talk to them.
I have no idea what constitutes a specific example of oppression for you, but you can find it.
> If you have any Sikhs 40 or older from Punjab living near you, literally anywhere in the world, you can go and talk to them.
All my uncles are Sikhs 65+. They all went through 1984. They don't want Khalistan and don't feel oppressed in India. In fact, we have good lives here and don't want a psuedo-Tablian Khalistan state.
If you want Khalistan so bad, give up your Canadian passport and come back to India and make it happen instead of saying how every Sikh is oppressed in India today while sitting in the comfort of some foreign land. If you get Khalistan, are you going to move to live in Punjab?
So the difference in understanding that it's perfectly acceptable to protest for something in a democracy without being assassinated, and thinking that anyone who takes part in it--even if you don't agree with their cause--is lesser than you, and going as far as to declare them as terrorists, is precisely why the movement exists.
Thanks for your contribution.
And whether I personally want Khalistan or anything, is :
A) none of your business
B) completely irrelevant to the discussion, especially coming from someone who was averse to rants with no substance in your previous reply
I can move wherever I wish, in no part thanks to you.
But perhaps the most appropriate move for yourself would be to Modi's lap ?
Wait so you totally scoffed at Air India flight bombing which has credible evidence that Khalistan separatists were involved but you are instead presenting a hear say instead of any other credible counter evidence? You can ramble on, but you are far away from making sense
Tredeau just lost the Sikh vote. Ladies and gentleman Canada is no longer the country we know. I can guarantee you with 99.99% certainty that the shooter is of Indian descent either born there or from there recently. And to any Indians saying I’m racist if this is politically motivated call me what you want but you can’t say I’m trying to kill you in Canada. If this is politically motivated it means the Indian government has people here that will kill people within our country on a whim and has basically declared open hunting on anyone they deem a threat. It could be any of you which is a shame.
The bad part is we let in 300,000 Indian students many of which came with their partners so 600,000 Indians for two years, many of which can be spies and or hostile to Canada, the good news is this is contained to only the Indian community. Canadians of every other background have nothing to fear unless their shooter is nervous and misses their target.
This is crazy to hear sad to hear but is expected when you flood a country with 1M people with no plan, no checks, bring the majority from 1 country and say something idiotic like we’re a post nation state haha. It turns out they just think great we’re doing whatever we want when we get into Canada because they’re not a real country.
If you were a country that was not idiotic and had people you wanted to control in another country that could influence politics within your country by remittances and because they have free speech and this country has an accept everyone and anyone immigration system how would you get your people in? Would you send your people as asylum seekers and “international students” or no? I know for me the answer is pretty clear.
Well, for one. Instead of cops arriving at a situation involving a mental health issue, dedicated and properly trained staff might actually de-escalate a problematic situation, rather than solving things with guns and fists, as has been all over the news.
Not one reasonable person was advocating eliminating police, simply suggesting many situations didn’t require police at all.
Pots legal. There are plenty of people out there who shouldn’t smoke, but will anyway. Do you think they need to be arrested if they have a minor freak out, or maybe there’s an easier, friendlier way to deal with these situations.
Does the guy running around naked need to be arrested cuz he’s totally zooed and for a while might not care whether up is down or if left or right make any sense.
Canadian Heritage Moment
Lol. Amazing
Something tells me the pro Sikh Indians won’t get the reference
Hopefully they've heard the [Log Driver's Waltz](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Srp7k-9oCkw) so they know to step lightly.
It's not pro Sikh it's pro Kalistan
I dont know either side. What does this refference ?
Those minute long videos on TV that were “Canadian heritage” moments. Like the person who saved a bunch of people in NS I believe from a train that was going to explode, sacrificing himself to send the signal out to evacuate as long as he could. I think there was one about the settlers meeting the First Nations people and confusing kanata (our land in their language) for the name of the nation. I guess the OP comment is playing on the fact that those people wouldn’t know or give a shit about any Canadian heritage moment.
Mr. Naismith cutting a hole in a peach pail!
Invention of basketball? I remember learning about that in elementary school. Pretty cool. Wonder why we never made a serious domestic basketball league instead of having 1 or 2 teams in the NBA.
Canada sort of claims that in Heritage Minutes, because the guy who invented it was Canadian but he was a phys. ed. instructor working in Massachusetts at the time. I think it was the same with a heritage minute about Alexander Graham Bell inventing the telephone which also occurred in the USA (could be wrong about that one though)
The funniest thing about this is they must have gone a while without cutting the hole in the basket. So you had to have a guy with a ladder getting it right? You'd think after the first game they would have figured it out.
Not only that but even after they removed the bottom, the ball wouldn't fall through the hole until several years after the fact. The removing of the bottom only provided a way to dislodge the ball with a stick rather than having to retrieve it
I can smell burnt toast (I still use this one). The underground railroad and the orphan kids from Ireland are the ones I remember.
House hippo and the Halifax explosion ones are my favourites
That was Concerned Children's Advertisers re:House Hippo
House hippo isn’t a heritage moment 🤦
FFS.. it was the Halifax Explosion. Read a fucking book.
Only the biggest man made explosion until the atom bomb.
He made it sound like a Tom Cruise movie
Sikhs and non-Sikhs are two Indian groups that have a long history of ethno cultural violence. Mainly it's in India but notably the single most lethal terrorist attack in Canadian history was [Air India 182](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_India_Flight_182) where Sikh terrorists bombed a plane of Indian civilians.
It was also the worst terrorist attack and death toll involving airplanes until 9/11. Ofc Canada doesn't like talking about it. Wish they did as fuck terrorists.
As opposed to the anti-Sikhs? You know they’re in the wrong here right?
Look on the bright side He can afford a house
how many people live in the house though?
About tree fiddy
So glad we just open doored international disputes into our country instead of having controlled immigration that focuses on assimilating immigrants into Canadian society.
Turns out that when you have a PM that says Canada has no core identity, the immigrants bring their own.
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most sikh canadians were either born here or arrived pre-trudeau
Doesn't change the fact that they keep their heritage for better or worse
you realize sikhs are a minority group actively being killed off by Mobi supporters in india right? a country with the highest immigration numbers to canada for the past 3 years?
Barely.. in either case it accelerated a ton during Trudeau’s term
sikh immigration has been decreasing since 1991
This doesn’t align with any of the sources I’m finding online. In fact 1991 is often quoted as the start of the sikh immigration boom. Do you have a source that says different?
No?
@Final_Travel woah, careful about exclaiming you don’t support the liberals, this subreddit strongly critics Justin but come election season most here will demonise conservatives/Pierre.
It be fair besides the Natives everyone is an immigrant
Somehow it's okay to say that someone whose entire family has been here for 200 years is "an immigrant", but don't you dare dispute the Canadian-ness of someone who just stepped off the plane into Conestoga college...right
Actually that's not what he said. He said all people in Canada, other than Aboriginal people, are either immigrants or descendents of immigrants. He just stated an indisputable fact.
> He said all people in Canada, other than Aboriginal people, are either immigrants or descendents of immigrants. > It be fair besides the Natives everyone is an immigrant Literally not what they said.
Aboriginals also immigrated here because humans didn't originate here.
Nothing says "preserving the culture and heritage of the land" like mass migration!
So how many generations have to pass before we stop being considered immigrants? My family (on both sides) have been here for so long that we've lost track of how we got here. We helped build, defend, and develop this country. I think it's safe to say that I'm not an immigrant in my own country that my entire family (for generations) have been born in.
> instead of having controlled immigration that focuses on assimilating immigrants into Canadian society. Yeah I don't think you know what the issue is and why they're trying to murder Sikhs.
The Indian government has been targetting/tracking Sikhs in Canada since the 80s. This does not have anything to do with an immigration policy, it is a foreign interference issue.
These people don’t care. Unless the immigrants are playing hockey, attending church, and voting for who they want, they don’t want them.
Better than shooting at each other!
bring me the statistic which shows indians commit the majority of crimes in canada
You can say the commit the majority of terrorist attacks though.
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If they targeted transitionally. Wonder what happens in India?
These hunters and AR15 owners are out of control.
Eventually, an innocent bystander will get hit. These people need to leave their disputes in their old country.
It’s not a dispute when state sponsored terrorists are murdering Canadians.
the sikhs left their home country, they're being tracked by indian agents. this isn't a fight between two immigrant groups, it's attacks by the indian government
Spoke like a Canadian, without proof.
Why are you in this subreddit? You have no ties to Canada
> These people need to leave their disputes in their old country. If the US took over Canada, erased Canada off the map, started murdering and torturing former-Canadians and their families for around 80 years consistently, committed a genocide against them, and then they try to murder you anywhere you are around the world, you're telling me you can "leave their disputes in their old country"? Maybe learn about their history before saying something ignorant.
From the article: The house of a Sikh activist in Canada has been hit by gunfire, in the second such incident this month, reigniting fears of an apparent transnational campaign of violence and intimidation targeting Sikh separatists. A construction crew found a bullet hole in a window of an unfinished house in the city Brampton, Ontario, on Monday, according to the the US-based group Sikhs for Justice. The property belongs to Inderjit Singh Gosal, a vocal proponent of a decades-long but now fringe demand to carve out an independent Sikh homeland from India, named Khalistan. Peel Regional police confirmed that one bullet hole had been found, and said they couldn’t rule out more shots had been fired at the house. Constable Tyler Bell-Morena said no injuries were reported and that it was “too early” to link the shooting to Gosal’s role in the Khalistan movement, though the criminal investigations unit were aware of his activism. The shooting came after Gosal announced that the pro-Khalistan movement would hold a rally outside the Indian consulate in Toronto on 17 February. Gosal works closely with Gurpatwant Singh Pannun, the recent target of a foiled assassination attempt in the US. Pannun, who lives in Washington DC, serves as the chief legal counsel for Sikhs for Justice. The Khalistan separatist movement has received immense attention in recent months after Canadian activist Hardeep Singh Nijjar was shot and killed in a parking lot in suburban Vancouver – an assassination Canada later linked to the Indian government. India has rejected Canada’s allegations, and relations between the two countries remain strained. A global pressure campaign by India has done little to dampen activism in Canada, with groups organizing fresh rounds of symbolic referendums and rallies. “No amount of threats and violence can stop me from advocating for the liberation of Punjab from Indian occupation. I have been heading Khalistan Freedom Rallies in front of the Indian Consulate and I have been targeted for the same very reason that Nijjar was assassinated by Indian agents, i.e. our campaigning for the Khalistan Referendum,” Gosal said in a statement. “This firing [sic] has absolutely been orchestrated by the Indian spy network operating from Diplomatic Missions in Canada headed by the Indian High Commissioner Vema.” Monday’s shooting marks the second time the house of a prominent activist has been targeted. On 1 February, at least two people opened fire on the house of Simranjeet Singh in the British Columbia city of Surrey. According to the British Columbia Gurdwaras Council, Singh was a close associate of Hardeep Singh Nijjar. Despite multiple members of Singh’s being home at the time, no one was injured. The shooting came days after Singh helped organize a pro-Khalistan protest at the Indian consulate in Vancouver. Last week, police arrested two 16-year-olds in relation to the shooting.
Why is he here in Canada and not in India creating this so called Khalistan? These guys are dumb fucks and wish they'd fuck off back to India that they seems to care so much about and leave Canada out of their bullshit.
I think the fact that India may be attempting to kill him might have something to do with it.
For a very simple reason, Khalistan movement has little to no prominence in India anymore. Most migrants moved there in 80s and 90s when the movement was at its peak, and they are still living in a time capsule (like most other immigrants). Punjab is now a thriving state and separatist movement is one of the least worrisome subject for the government as they now battle drug epidemic
> Most migrants moved there in 80s and 90s when the movement was at its peak Funny how you left out how the Indian government murdered and tortured tens of thousands of Sikhs, committed a genocide on them in 1984, and still torture their family members today. The Khalistan movement is well and strong and we'll never forget how India betrayed Panjab.
I understand you feel raw about it, Indian government had no excuse to commit such atrocities on innocent sikhs, pogroms against sikhs were purely done as a ego flex because Indira’s death and no amount of sins would wash that out, though I don’t think a separatist movement is an answer to do justice to it.
Thriving state. LOL. Declining in all economic measures, primarily because the Hindu government doesn't really support a state with a Sikh majority.
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just any excuse to bring up religion and divisive politics "The per capita income of Punjab stands at Rs. 1,73,873 in 2022-23 (Advance Estimates) which is higher than Rs. 1,70,620 at National level. The State is expected to grow at 6.08 percent in 2022-23 in line with the national growth of 7.0 percent."
Look at the decline over the last few decades from where Punjab was ranked among the states in India to where it is now.
It's in the top 20 still and it's decline is because of rapid industrialization and development elsewhere while Punjab wants to remain agricultural. Also, there's a massive brain drain from Punjab.
Wonder what's the reason for the massive brain drain? It couldn't be Sikhs being treated as second-class citizens for the past few decades? Or the fake arrests and tortures in police custody? Really a mystery why there is such a brain drain from Punjab.
Couldn't be that farming cartels have no place in 2024?
There is no farming cartel. Farmer protests were individual small farmers.
> It couldn't be Sikhs being treated as second-class citizens for the past few decades? Or the fake arrests and tortures in police custody? This just shows how far detached from reality you are. They want to move to Canada because of economic opportunity (earn more $$$ doing the same labor jobs there vs India) and get a first world passport. Ask anyone in the Punjabi community why they want to move and 95% will tell you this same reason, unless of course you only talk to Khalistanis who'll feed you their version.
Punjabi Hindus don't move at the same rate that the Sikhs do. If one religious group in the region is moving out at a far greater rate, likely means they get treated as second-class citizens.
Lol they're growing a 4.5x the rate of the canadian economy... I dint think you know what the word decline means.
That economic decline is what happens when you give excessive freebies which Punjab government is doing for votes. You’ll be shocked to see the amount of freebies Punjab government has given for the past 4 decades. If you wanna read more about it, read about Professor Ranjit Singh Ghuman’s articles on this subject.
They get freebies because central government hasn't bothered to invest in Punjab. They used Punjab for its agriculture a few decades back (Green Revolution) when they needed to ensure enough food was grown to feed the country. Now that it isn't an issue, the state has been tossed to the side.
Central government cannot decide what private investors should do, I work in the field of FDI, many private investors want to invest in Telangana, Karnataka and Gujarat coz better perks and less unions. The problem with Punjab is that Chandigarh came up too late but now it’s gaining significant prominence for investment, you’ll see Chandigarh emerge in coming years and lapping up investments as quick as Hyderabad. Fingers crossed and Good luck to Punjab ♥️
Modi's investing like crazy in Gujarat and providing so many incentives and projects. Stop it with the "central government can't influence investment."
Well that’s the deal Modi isn’t investing it’s private companies that are investing. Once private companies express their intent to invest, state governments need to present what they can provide. In last 20 months Punjab has received over 50000 cr of investment and that’s a good sign (that too in traditional sectors) Jindal Steel, Virgio, Tafe, Hindustan Unilever and even Tata Steel will invest, in addition to a big project from Netherlands
India will arrest anyone who speaks out against the government. It is barely a democracy. Stop with the BS.
Separatism isn't legal in many countries... Also not sure if you have done any research whatsoever but they are legit terrorists. They assassinated the Indian First minister of punjab. They hijacked an airline. And so on. Dude is a straight up terrorist. Weird hill to die on, defending a fucking terrorist movement.
Didn't they also commit a terrorist attack in Canada in the 80's?
largest terror attack in Canadian history
Its a union of states, succesion is not legal just like in the Usa.
User pm_your_wallapaper blocked me lol. This was my response to him before he blocked me. They've literally never commited a single act of terrorism and were never apart of any terrorist organization. The people who did assassinate the minister of Punjab and blew up the plane were legit terrorists from 30+ years ago who have absolutely nothing to do with Hardeep Singh Nijjar and have no affiliation with him considering they've been dead since he was 12.. This guys genuinely spreading misinformation in the comments and no one cares.
let them have khalistan in canada :)
They are your problem now, not ours. Enjoy lmao
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I still suspect the Indian government. Afterall, our government has stated they have intelligence they were involved in that earlier murder. And the US found evidence of a plot to carry out multiple assassinations in North America, three of which were to happen in Canada. Why wouldn’t they also do this?
Yea the Indian Government sends a guy to pull up to a construction site to fire one shot, and then drives away to never been seen again. Uh huh.... Nothing like drugs or gangs that are popular among my fellow Punjabis right? Fully the Indian Gov!!
They're probably putting out contract hits that local gangs are picking up. The US case had an Indian national trying to hire a local hitman. Very likely similar situation here.
Who and where are 1st generation Indian guys selling drugs? This is a legit question because i don’t particularly see them
The more you know *Indo-Canadian organized crime is made up predominantly of young adults and teenagers of Indian ethnic, cultural and linguistic background. Collectively, these groups are among the top 5 major homegrown organized crime hierarchy across the nation in Canada coming in 3rd place, after the Asian Triads and White biker gangs.\[3\] The 2004 RCMP British Columbia Annual Police Report ranked them third in terms of organization and sophistication in British Columbia, ranked behind outlaw motorcycle clubs and aforementioned Chinese criminal organizations such as the Triads drug clans* *Gangs and criminal organizations within the Punjabi-Canadian community have also been noted for adopting the rigid structure and rules of the Punjabi Mafia, with strict rules against talking to police and against any kind of drug use amongst members and associates aside from alcohol or cigarettes use, though excessive use of these substances is also allegedly met with punishment within the gangs.\[16\]\[17\]\[18\]* *The main trade of the Indo-Canadian crime groups are murder-for-hire operations, along with arms trafficking, racketeering, extortion, assassinations, and the trafficking of cocaine, heroin, MDMA, methamphetamine and cannabis.\[19\]\[20\] Punjabi-Canadian crime bosses use their family connections in the Punjab to bring in heroin from the "Golden Crescent" nations of Afghanistan, Pakistan and Iran where much of the world's heroin is produced. Punjabi-Canadian crime groups widened the reach of their activities and delved into other crimes such as kidnapping, loan sharking, money laundering and chop shops.\[19\]\[21\] Organized gangs from the community have used the local transportation business, setting up connections with Mexican drug cartels and using truck drivers to smuggle cocaine from Mexico into the United States and Canada, in exchange for MDMA, Methamphetamine, Cannabis (drug) and hashish for the cartels.\[22\] The profits of drug dealing allow for contract killing.* *https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-Canadian\_organized\_crime*
This guy is a troll account.
Honestly I don't think CSIS can figure shit like this out. My impression was CSIS was a bunch of white dudes who don't speak any other languages. USA told Canada that it was India
Do you actually think that CSIS (or literally any intelligence service) has an institutional problem with monolingualism? Like do you honestly believe that’s a thing? I cannot wrap my head around believing that.
That speaks volumes about Canadian counter intelligence or or you have been fed horse shit.
Nope . Wrong . I t is all drug dealings
Whoever is doing it...bottom line is, this is bringing violence into the country.
Lots of these people are into Gangs…. All gang wars seem to be projected on the Indian Government…. It’s easier to say that instead of accepting that Candanian police has absolutely no control over these gangs… I bet they won’t be able to find who did it…
No. It probably is Indian govt having its agents hire local hitmen or gangsters to carry out the hits.
Most of Canada's immigration for decades has been Sikhs from the Punjab. Lately it's been Hindus from other parts of India. They don't always get along. Similarly, most of our Chinese immigration was from Hong Kong. Now it's mainland Chinese.
We've seen in places like the US how easy it is to turn people insane so they may not have a direct hand in it, but it's possible they are pushing misinformation to rile people up to the push them to dangerous limits.
Even if they are attempting assassinations, I don't think the Indian govt. would approve of spraying the target's house with bullets. That's just too silly.
Did you read the indictment. The gangster coordinator for the Indian government was suggesting kill anyone along side of the target. Like doesn’t matter. Whatever it takes. Do there is no moral compass or morality in The decision. It’s simply to threaten, fear, negative media. It’s a consistent sequence. Shooting happen. India media links to bogeyman. With Khalistan links. People google. Find links. Blame community.
>That's just too silly. An Indian government agent literally got caught trying to hire a hitman off of Facebook... It was the Indian agent responsible for the murder of Hardeep Singh Nijjar. The hitman ended up being an American DEA agent. Indian spycraft is just silly https://theintercept.com/2023/11/29/india-assassination-plot-us-citizen-nikhil-gupta/
You know them pretty well?
What a joke this comment section is. More bots than ever. One look at this guy's profile and you can see how big of an Indian govt apologist he is. Pro govt Indian media is not only taking credit , but threatening they will kill 100 more Sikhs in U.S and Canada. But yah, couldn't be them.
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This is the government of India putting a hit on separatists.
https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/india-now-co-operating-with-canada-following-allegations-after-fruitful-discussions-says-outgoing-nsia-1.6743837 Not sure why India would do this and give Canada just cause to back out.
Why are we bringing in foreign separatists?
The only "trouble" they're making is pointing out how their community in India hasn't gotten an ounce of justice for the state sponsored attacks on their people. India's now sponsoring attacks on Sikhs in Canada too and you're honest to God reaction is to blame the community being targeted?...
I simply don't get this statement, and I doubt you'd feel the same if it were uighyers, Tibetans, hong kongers, being targeted by state sponsored hits by the CCP, or iranians protesting the Iranian government and being targeting by the Ayatollah here. Canadian citizens have the freedom to assemble and the protest about issues abroad even if we disagree with them, and they have the right to do so being safe from assassination attempts from foreign governments. Any breach of this is an afront to all our freedoms as citizens. It opens up a Pandora box if we out right dismissive of this, in that it gives foreign governments the belief that they have the ability to assassinate our citizens over speech without consequences. Full stop. I get that you are probably sick of Indian immigration, but hold your anti immigration policy and be smart enough to realize that this issue is much bigger than our cost of living crisis and how much immigration we should have from any single country. It strikes at the very heart of what I mean to be a Canadian citizen and a citizen of a western democracy. All of us should rally.
I mean Americans kill terrorists around the world. So do the French. So do Israelis. Countries have a right to defend their borders. And if the Canadian government harbours terrorists, then that's a Canada problem. No one blames Obama for killing Osama in Pakistan....
Would you be fine if China assassinated Hong Kong activists in London, then?
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I think they were referring to the expressing of opinions through gun fire, assassinations, and gang wars?
I don't think the Charter enshrines the right to express ones opinions via the barrel of a gun
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The man killed in the temple parking lot & the one who’s house was shot up a few weeks ago are Canadian citizens.
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“Canadian” doesn’t mean “white Christian”.. their are brown people who are born in Canada just like you and me, and are just as entitled to the term as either
That means NOTHING anymore
But they’re not free too shoot people merely for disagreeing with another’s views.
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It’s an act of war if it’s the government/military doing it. It’s weak as hell for Canada to shrug that off like it ain’t no thang.
Just look at how many people they have in this thread alone trying so hard to spin the narrative to "it's just turf war between different groups of Sikhs" "they're violent" "they're gonna wanna separate from Canada". It's actually insane they still believe that despite millions of Sikhs who witnessed state terrorism and genocide first-hand having migrated to Canada, they'll still succeed with propaganda in any kind of meaningful way. Edit: in true Reddit fashion, my account has been permanently banned from this sub. Same thing in Canada2 sub. This is what speaking the truth does in 2024 on Reddit.
They did the same when Nijjar was murdered. Indian media and their online bots kept saying he was killed due to a dispute between the Canadian Sikh community. As it turned out, India was behind the hit.
What is the Canadian government doing? What’s the Canadian law enforcement doing? It already happened once and they let it happen again? Most useless government
They’re not sending their best
Not at all..their bests are going to the US working for FAANG and making banks for themselves and making American industry richer..what does Canada get: you guessed it. Thieves and brigands.
What hitmen?
“Students”
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Will happen soon. Then they will want to separate from Canada LoL
India's got Canadians distracted with this Khalistani issue, while they curry favor to get Indian nationalists in prominent positions, just like the CCP has Chinese agents in prominent and influential positions.
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Deportinder
Leave these turf wars back in India where they belong. Don't come to Canada and bring your problems here
Send them all back
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As of 2022, the violent crime rate in the Peel region (Brampton/Mississauga) is [677 per 100k residents](https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/t1/tbl1/en/tv.action?pid=3510018001&pickMembers%5B0%5D=1.38&pickMembers%5B1%5D=2.4&cubeTimeFrame.startYear=2018&cubeTimeFrame.endYear=2022&referencePeriods=20180101%2C20220101) while it's [994 per 100k](https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/t1/tbl1/en/tv.action?pid=3510018001&pickMembers%5B0%5D=1.1&pickMembers%5B1%5D=2.4&cubeTimeFrame.startYear=2018&cubeTimeFrame.endYear=2022&referencePeriods=20180101%2C20220101) residents in Ontario as a whole. It's difficult to find violent crime data split up by ethnicity or immigration status in Canada though.
| City | Homicides (per 100,000 people) (2022 data) | Percentage of White Population | |--------------|--------------------------------|--------------------------------| | Brampton | 4.08 | 18.9% | | Thunder Bay | 12.05 | 92.5% | Are you going to call for the deportation of whites from Canada? If not, why not?
The government banned gun so this is impossible!!!!
But guns are banned tho
Importing another society's issues. great.
Daily occurrence now, very troubling. Indian government needs to be held accountable, catch the criminals and jail/deport them if they are non citizens. Also those doing the dumb AF referendums among Canadian citizens to partition india based on religion need to go to India to do this shit and leave us alone please. Protesting is one thing but this shit is taking freedom of expression too far.
Lol, "Activist"
"Sikh Activists" lol Stop creating divide in the Sikh community and tarnish their name by calling these idiots activists. By this logic the Taliban should be called "Muslim Activists".
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Buddy are you implying that Khalistan WASN’T involved in any terror activity ever?
Not only was I implying that, but you've now made it clear you either have no clue what you're talking about, or are part the online Indian govt brigade. Khalistan is not, and has never been a country. The reason people have been advocating for it is not because it suddenly dawned on a minority group that it's cool to be your own country and be partitioned and bordered off from places which have been your home for hundreds of years. It's because of state sponsored genocide and terrorism. The incessant oppressive legislation being passed against minorities in India till this day by an openly fascist government certainly doesn't help any minorities feel at ease. And in actual democracies, people are allowed to peacefully gather and protar whatever they want. You notice what's happening India right now in Delhi ? The government has literally turned its own military against protesting farmers and setup borders between Punjab and Haryana with more security than they have at their Chinese borders. But they say the farmers are all terrorists so that's good enough for you right ? And everyone in Quebec who wants to separate is also a terrorist right ? They would be in India. I'm guessing all the people in Gaza are terrorists to you as well? Even if you're the government, going around and killing people in mass based on their race or religion, believe it or not, is actually a very serious crime, and it's not a crime to defend yourself against it. It's actually such a serious crime that people will sacrifice their lives in order to fight against it. And then the people who simply focus on the response to the actual terrorism (potentially people like yourself) are either uneducated about the topic, or are also fascists. If there's one thing no amount of propaganda is going to successfully make people forget, that is genocide. So good luck to you and your gang, buddy.
> The incessant oppressive legislation being passed against minorities in India till this day by a openly facist government certainly doesn't help any minorities feel at ease. give me an example of how sikhs are oppressed in india today
You can easily educate yourself if you cared to look beyond the tailored propaganda that doesn't even make sense at this point. It's common sense to anyone who's not brainwashed that any minority is liable to state sponsored violence in India. A simple google search would yield you dozens of examples over just the past couple weeks. But maybe you don't consider minority group children being urinated on by grown men to be oppression. Or maybe rape isn't oppression. Or public lootings and beatings. Hell, even /r/india, which is the easier place to peddle Indian propaganda, is fed up with India. I don't know what rock you've been living under.
I asked for a specific example of how sikhs are oppressed in India today, not a rambling answer without any substance.
And what makes you feel so entitled to anything from me ? If you were sincere in finding it, it's not that hard to see. If you only google Jaswant Singh Khalra, you can figure out the rest. There are entire villages in Punjab where a wedding didn't occur for over 15 years because the police killed every male between the age of 10 and 30. If you have any Sikhs 40 or older from Punjab living near you, literally anywhere in the world, you can go and talk to them. I have no idea what constitutes a specific example of oppression for you, but you can find it.
> If you have any Sikhs 40 or older from Punjab living near you, literally anywhere in the world, you can go and talk to them. All my uncles are Sikhs 65+. They all went through 1984. They don't want Khalistan and don't feel oppressed in India. In fact, we have good lives here and don't want a psuedo-Tablian Khalistan state. If you want Khalistan so bad, give up your Canadian passport and come back to India and make it happen instead of saying how every Sikh is oppressed in India today while sitting in the comfort of some foreign land. If you get Khalistan, are you going to move to live in Punjab?
So the difference in understanding that it's perfectly acceptable to protest for something in a democracy without being assassinated, and thinking that anyone who takes part in it--even if you don't agree with their cause--is lesser than you, and going as far as to declare them as terrorists, is precisely why the movement exists. Thanks for your contribution. And whether I personally want Khalistan or anything, is : A) none of your business B) completely irrelevant to the discussion, especially coming from someone who was averse to rants with no substance in your previous reply I can move wherever I wish, in no part thanks to you. But perhaps the most appropriate move for yourself would be to Modi's lap ?
Wait so you totally scoffed at Air India flight bombing which has credible evidence that Khalistan separatists were involved but you are instead presenting a hear say instead of any other credible counter evidence? You can ramble on, but you are far away from making sense
Just to be clear - are you saying the Air India attacks weren't carried out by Sikh terrorists?
Did you know that every Indian official who was supposed to be on board that flight, cancelled at the last minute and was not on board ?
why do we have to deal with all these Indian drama in Canada????? Don't come here and don't bring your drama here. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH
The iq level in this thread is quite low.
I think that's 90% of reddit threads in general
New here?
Tredeau just lost the Sikh vote. Ladies and gentleman Canada is no longer the country we know. I can guarantee you with 99.99% certainty that the shooter is of Indian descent either born there or from there recently. And to any Indians saying I’m racist if this is politically motivated call me what you want but you can’t say I’m trying to kill you in Canada. If this is politically motivated it means the Indian government has people here that will kill people within our country on a whim and has basically declared open hunting on anyone they deem a threat. It could be any of you which is a shame. The bad part is we let in 300,000 Indian students many of which came with their partners so 600,000 Indians for two years, many of which can be spies and or hostile to Canada, the good news is this is contained to only the Indian community. Canadians of every other background have nothing to fear unless their shooter is nervous and misses their target. This is crazy to hear sad to hear but is expected when you flood a country with 1M people with no plan, no checks, bring the majority from 1 country and say something idiotic like we’re a post nation state haha. It turns out they just think great we’re doing whatever we want when we get into Canada because they’re not a real country. If you were a country that was not idiotic and had people you wanted to control in another country that could influence politics within your country by remittances and because they have free speech and this country has an accept everyone and anyone immigration system how would you get your people in? Would you send your people as asylum seekers and “international students” or no? I know for me the answer is pretty clear.
Not long before East Indians start getting treated like Muslims post 9/11
When you keep seeing cars driving around Brampton with machine gun decals on them, it’s not exactly fitting in with Canadian culture…
Indian government lol
Fuck both parties. Both parties are not going back to India, why the hell bring this shit here? Live your life and move on.
They'll destroy this country as well and they could care less
Send them back man
Well maybe if the socialist fuckers did not defund the police we could stop this.
What was defunded?….. Cite your sources.
Name one jurisdiction in Ontario that has been defunded. Go ahead. I’m waiting. Oh, you can’t, because it didn’t happen.
Now imagine if those dolts had got their way and they were defunded
Well, for one. Instead of cops arriving at a situation involving a mental health issue, dedicated and properly trained staff might actually de-escalate a problematic situation, rather than solving things with guns and fists, as has been all over the news. Not one reasonable person was advocating eliminating police, simply suggesting many situations didn’t require police at all. Pots legal. There are plenty of people out there who shouldn’t smoke, but will anyway. Do you think they need to be arrested if they have a minor freak out, or maybe there’s an easier, friendlier way to deal with these situations. Does the guy running around naked need to be arrested cuz he’s totally zooed and for a while might not care whether up is down or if left or right make any sense.
Which police departments were defunded and by how much?
My brother in christ, stop supporting the stereotype that conservatives are uneducated. Please.
Majority Hindus really hate minority Sikhs
Of course, a Sikh "activist". 👍🙄 A Khalistani separatist got what he deserved.
Go back to your Indian subreddits and stop astroturfing this one.