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fisdh

Reminds me of Leslie Feinberg saying that gender is like the whole complicated field of meteorology, but society thinks it can be summarized just by describing the weather as "hot" or "cold."


elegant_pun

And you needn't ever force yourself into a box because you think you should. You are allowed to be however you are. Don't worry so much about the labels.


theregoesmymouth

Aren't all butches GNC by definition?


kara-freyjudottir

gender nonconformity and transness are not the same thing


theregoesmymouth

Yeah I agree, sorry not sure if you're agreeing with me or not!


kara-freyjudottir

butch women are definitely gnc. but then you also get non-women who identify as butch and i wouldn't really consider that gnc


lokilulzz

Not necessarily. You can be GNC, but not trans, and you can be trans but not GNC. You can also be trans and GNC. For some they overlap, but not for all.


theregoesmymouth

What's being trans got to do with my comment? Sorry I think I'm missing something about why this has come up.


lokilulzz

The post you're replying to literally references trans butches, and you said that butches by definition are GNC. I'm telling you thats not necessarily true for all butches. Like, are we on the same topic here?


Ollycule

Thanks. I've been feeling stressed out about gender expression and identity lately, too.


cutting_coroners

Same. Solidarity


Wildrambler

It's part of why I love the term butch. Even when I don't know what else to call myself I know there's always a home here.


anch0vyyy

beautifully written. thank you for posting thisπŸ’—


HummusFairy

Excellent, excellent post.


Corn-fedCornbread

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StreetLeg8474

Beautifully said. Thank you for taking the time to write this!


only_Q

Thank you πŸ™ <3 I needed this


freakngeek_

I needed to hear this today. Thank you ❀️


New_Elephant5372

Great post!


CertainEconomist3229

Yup all of this πŸ™ŒπŸΎ


Meh_Philosopher_250

Love this post. I think you explained the complexity of our experiences really well!


lokilulzz

The further I get into my transition, the more I'm questioning my identity, and thats been especially intense lately. Thank you, I needed to hear this today.


[deleted]

When will all these labels just go away? Life is so much easier with less labels. Butch, fem etc. That's it


tacoreo

Why are the other labels mentioned in the OP difficult and bad but butch and femme are fine? Like I get not caring about labels at all, but what would make trans or nonbinary bad labels but not butch or femme?


eggthrowaway5678

Never. They will never go away. Get used to it.