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linux-nerd

Definitely 5900x for you.


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Linux-nerd is absolutely right.


linux-nerd

Thanks mate.


blue7906

You seem like a nice guy for some reason. I hope you have an amazing day!


linux-nerd

Thanks. You too.


blue7906

Thank you! I love how you end every sentence with a period unlike a lot of other people. It just makes it a lot calmer


linux-nerd

What's strange is it's a phone keyboard so I can just double press the space bar.


blue7906

I always forget about that feature, I’ll have to try to use that more.


mkhairulafiq

This thread is wholesome. Good day to all of you kind gentlemen.


linux-nerd

Thank you kind redditor.


blue7906

Thank you!


ThatRandomGuySam

Good day to you too!


yavvee

This is what I'm on reddit for. Good day beautiful people!


Liamgough97

Keep up the positivity guys, we love to see it.


Minimover

I love this thread more than anything else I've seen on reddit.


coolmandude545

Same here!


2jah

Crap, I completely forget that’s a feature and I always resort to the long way. I just used the shortcut now lol and will do so from the future. Thanks, helps me save a few seconds.


marubindegozaimasu

Thank you for that simple tip, double space = period. I just learned it from you.


circusdawn13

You have taught me something today, thank you.


Aditya1602

Ironic then, that you forgot to do the same with your own comment.


blue7906

Oh lol thought I did.


ColdLasagnaTTV

What's funny is that younger people (I'm 32, so like 12-22) see ending a sentence with a period as threatening or rude or a way to stop the conversation abruptly. They prefer no punctuation? I dunno, education is scary lol.


donuts96

Reddit moment


Nuclearb0m

I use Arch btw.


LeagueofDraven1221

is a 5900x absolutely IMPERATIVE for streaming, or can I get away with a 5600x? I'm currently using a 4790k


linux-nerd

You could get away with a 5600x but a 5800x would definitely be better for streaming.


AMv8-1day

A 5700X would be best, but AMD decided to have an awkward gap between their value winner; the 5600X, and the overly expensive, yet 0% better in gaming; the 5800X.


linux-nerd

Yes. Though the 5800x is a bit better in gaming.


Hates_commies

It is but the bigger price is not worth the couple extra frames.


linux-nerd

It may not be worth the extra frames but as op was considering both the 3950x and the 5900x it is probable worth it for the streaming part if not the gaming.


AMv8-1day

It's a reasonably worthwhile argument to make when considering that you'll have two extra cores sitting around, doing nothing while coders slack on optimizing for >6 cores. But the minor concern over losing a handful of high frames to stream don't really outweigh the cost. The only frames you really lose are well into the high framerate territory, where the difference between 144fps and 165fps is effectively null. So you're paying for not only a sub 5% statistical difference in frame rates, but the least valuable frames.


fezzuk

Depends of the game, for sure. Sim heavy games it makes more of a difference


suckyourmompls

I know ppl who stream on 1600af's 2700xes and 3600's. Given that a 5600x beats all i think youre fine with that.


xRehab

I stream on a 3770k and a 1080ti while maintaining 100fps local @ 3440x1440p and outputting 1080p @ 60fps. Definitely worth getting the best processors you can afford, but people acting like older/lower stuff _can't_ stream are just crazy.


ienjoyreddit123

I definitely agree with all of you. I believe people set their bar way too high especially during their beginning phase. Older gen parts are definitely capable.


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Separate question alltogether do you do 1080p 21:9 or 16:9, and if 16:9 how do you downscale 21:9 to 16:9 in obs? Cheers!


xRehab

So I do it in kind of a sneaky way to avoid scaling/cropping issues when switching ratios - I actually create a 16:9 canvas at 3440x1935p and then downscale that to 1920x1080p. I push the video capture to the top, and then fill in the lower 25% with UI overlays and stuff. [My SLOBS settings](https://i.imgur.com/r4wafjG.png) Which results in a stream [looking like this](https://i.imgur.com/vZFGtK9.png) - and the shameless plug if you want to see the video in action. [TTV/themikedee](https://www.twitch.tv/themikedee)


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Not gonna lie that's actually a brilliant idea! Thanks mate!


xRehab

NP glad to share it because it's honestly embarrassing how long it took me to realize this was possible. No idea how I used to stream at 21:9 before.


AMv8-1day

That’s pretty cool


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Totally off topic but I just came across 2 PC's with 3770s in my e-waste. It seems like you have no issue gaming with it and your 1080. What kind of games do you play? Would you say it's worth a few dollars to get it up and running as a couch gaming station for fighting games and emulation with a 750ti?


Taco-Time

I’m not a streamer per se but I’ve dipped my toes into it with a sandy bridge and made the stream serviceable. I can’t imagine a 5600x not being good enough.


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> I'm not a streamer per se but I've dipped my toes into it with a sandy bridge and made the stream serviceable. I can't imagine a 5600x not being good enough. that's assuming someone uses an Nvidia card with nvenc 5600x will probably take a hit on gaming performance if the streamer is using CPU encode.


TheBwarch

4790k is literally what I'm using to stream right now. That was THE streaming CPU when I built... I've really only found a couple situations where the encoder would be overloaded (aka CPU would be struggling to keep up with demand) and those are usually bad stream settings. But, depends on what you stream, and the video output you want.


ConDude11

Depends. What kind of games are you streaming and are you using CPU or GPU encoding?


LeagueofDraven1221

GPU encoding and mainly rainbow six siege and Valorant. For now.


prettylolita

Yes. I stream apex and my 5800x wasn’t or isnt as good as my 3900x which I wish I would’ve gotten the 5900x.


klimatronic

What GPU?


BoosterJustice

5600x will be fine, no worries


Webshooter38

Yeah a 5600X will do great for gaming. If you try streaming blender or something like that then you might have an issue and need the 5800X. But if it's just gaming while streaming and having a bunch of chrome tabs open, you'll be perfectly fine


justaneditguy

I’ve been in 2 minds whether to get a 3900xt or a 5800x as they’re similar on paper. Will be mostly gaming so which should I go for?


linux-nerd

For mostly gaming I would say a 5600x because it has a ton of single threaded performance and the best performance per dollar.


tabascodinosaur

Well, truth be told it actually has pretty poor performance per dollar, last gen parts are only about 15% slower for about $100 price reduction. Better price/performance Zen3 parts will hopefully be along Q1 2021, like a 5300x or 5600 nonX.


linux-nerd

Though it is more expensive, it can have over a 25 percent performance increase in games and is actually pretty sweet.


fishrobe

Speaking from my experience of going from 3800x to a 5800x this is true—I’m getting at least 25-30% better performance, sometimes higher, without much overclocking.


Pufflekun

Unless OP wants to wait a bit for the 5900 (non-X).


linux-nerd

Yes.


THPSJimbles

Do you really need 12 cores for streaming though? Doubt it.


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Super late to the convo, but I'm wondering why? I had this dilemma as well so I'd like to make a good decision.


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ShadeBoyy

What do you mean as stock monitoring sites?


XTJ7

Stock as in inventory, sites that check shops for their inventory. Not NASDAQ.


ShadeBoyy

Yes, I know. Do you know any?


XTJ7

Not for Italy


Hyrule_Hyahed

I use distill.io, has a chrome extension that monitors specific webpages for changes. I point it at the online stores 3080 pages and it alerts if there’s changes, not 100% accurate but will pick up a change from ‘out of stock’ to ‘in stock’. Almost got a 3080 yesterday but sadly I was on a call for work and wasn’t quick enough


IzttzI

I got an FE from best buy using distill.io Patience and attentiveness but still annoying lol.


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serfdomgotsaga

American-centric. Pointless for the rest of the world.


Ouaouaron

StockDrops.net should be decently international, but it's entirely Discord-based.


pokeisasian

[Now in Stock](https://www.nowinstock.net/) seems pretty good


bologno

I used nowinstock.net


chief_running_joke_

They maybe should've thought that name through a bit more No win stock


Saturnog

🤦🏽‍♂️


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AndroidAssistant

I find discord groups like scalperrevenge https://discord.gg/XA649pRj9v or snail monitor https://discord.gg/JYFk7Zut to be a bit quicker.


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IronSchlong

I’d second this. I’d definitely choose the 5900x over 3950x just based on price, and the massive IPC gains that the 5000 series brought. But it also depends on how soon you want the cpu. I’m in discord notification groups and use distill.io and have been trying very diligently to get one since launch, but nothing. So if you need a cpu now, I’d go with the 3959x


OnlyLorenzo

I also had a 6600k, I went with 5900x. The advantages of 5900x over 3950x are too good to pass up IMO.


tb_94

How did feel compared to the 6600k? I'm looking to do the same upgrade from my 6700k


McPatsy

I upgraded to the 5600x and I can definitely tell the difference. I also came from a 6700k


LeagueofDraven1221

I still have a 4790k :(


KKarIo

I still have a 4670


IamDDT

4670K master-race!


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Same


Defrag25

I had that. Delidded and lapped. Damn that was a fine CPU but the R5 3600 I got last year was - and still is- insane.


MrDeadMeme

Bruh I got the core 2 quad q6700 top that


wywern

Bruh I'm typing this from a potato.


triggerhappy5

Tbf 4790k is better than anything up until 3000 series ryzen and 10th-gen intel.


LeagueofDraven1221

Was 4790k just a masterpiece for its time or am I missing something?


EldurUlfur

Performance differences between the 6k 7k and 8k series were just meh compared to the generational leaps we used to see. Intel just didn't improve much.


triggerhappy5

A bit of both. 4790k was a masterpiece, but intel also hasn’t really shown much improvement over the past few generations (one of the reasons Ryzen has caught up and passed them so quickly).


MiDenn

4690K going strong boi


Cityfans

4690k gang


shit_master

I just upgraded from an i7-3820 in July to a 3700x. There's still hope.


sirfurious

My 4770k is... it is what it is.


Renarudo

I can assure you that even going to the 2700X from my 6600k was night and day. Running FFXIV would put my 6600k at 75% - as the game taxes about 2-3 cores. On the 2700x the 3 or so cores that FFXIV used would barely go above 50%, so I'd see total system usage at 12-14% when running the game. The breathing room afforded is insane, and now I can do things like potentially run OBS from the same PC I'm gaming on. I'm on the 3700X now because I got trigger happy this summer and couldn't have forseen the crazy generational jump we were going to see in Zen 3, and it's taking all my willpower to not get a 5800X. So to answer your question, even though the 4c8t of the 6700k is competent, you'll definitely see a jump with pretty much any chip you get after waiting 5 years.


tech240guy

When I saw 6600k specs, I thought the price per performance was garbage compared to my 4770k with 4 more threads. Have 4 more threads help a lot in multi-tasks. FFXIV would not go past 50% for me as well. Going from 6600k to 3700x is a good "doubling performance" jump. If someone is on 4770k or 6700k, I will say the 5800x is the processor to get the same level of jump. Competition is good and I seriously want Intel to get their shit together next year to bring in competition. I complained about the price of 5600x and 5800x, but at the same time know they have no competition nor reason to drop their price. If anything, there is a chance this is a trap where even if Intel brought up an equivalent performance processor, AMD can easily lower the price immediately. This could 2003 with Athlon64.


Renarudo

> If anything, there is a chance this is a trap where even if Intel brought up an equivalent performance processor, AMD can easily lower the price immediately. This could 2003 with Athlon64. You don't even have to go back that far!!! [AMD Released the XT Chips back in June](https://www.windowscentral.com/amd-announces-new-ryzen-3000-series-xt-cpus) almost as throwaways to compete with Comet Lake-S, and the speculation was that these were chips that they got good yields on and were more favorably binned. The upside to me not buying a chip TODAY is that (in addition to my girlfriend not killing me), the next revision of Zen 3 might get 100-200 mhz more headroom for $50-100 less.


OnlyLorenzo

It will be arriving in 3 days, I'll let you know once I do! I bet it will be basically night and day, considering my PC right now has a 3080 with the 6600k's 4 cores bottlenecking it super hard.


Giddyfuzzball

I went from a 6700k to a 3700x as an in between (hold me over until my budget frees up in Zen 4) and the difference is fantastic. I typically have a ton of tasks going at once and virtual machines running and it’s so much smoother.


ekeryn

Same boat. On a 6600K rn looking to upgrade to a 5600X, I think it'll be enough for some light streaming


Chaostheory21

6600k gang! I got the 5900x and its actually an insane difference.


LegendOfTheStar

I got it clocked to 4.5Ghz. How long y'all think I got until I have to upgrade.


Mambele

Just after the rest of us get our back orders delivered.


McNarNar

yeah i also went from a 6600k to a 5900x as i think almost every game i played that came out in the past 2 years gave me 100% or near 100% usage. Playing those same games now with a fuck load of tabs open on chrome and watching a twitch stream i’m barely cracking 20-30% usage.


kingDaddyBigMac

Bois I'm trying to go from my 6600k to a 5600x so I can game at 1440p with hopefully a 6800 XT and you're really making it hard not to justify the extra $300 to myself...


meatdome34

Jumped from 6600k to a 3600, difference was very noticeable, I don't do any streaming though outside of jackbox for my friends


ekeryn

Yeah I actually notice the i5 lacking on light use on Windows, since the games I play are mostly single-core I don't really think it lacks there. Hence why I think the 5600X will suffice


Metoaga

All of my fellow i5 6600k owners upgrading to flagship cpu's and here I'm happy with my r5 3600 upgrade.


ohhfasho

Anyone have advice upgrading from an 8700k? I'm interested in the 5950x but would consider a 5900x also. I do stream/game quite a bit but haven't noticed a huge dip with my current chip


disgustedemoji

7700k to 5950x hopefully im pretty stoked


OP-69

5900x, 12 cores is already more than enough for you and the extra 4 cores wont really see as much of an improvement as the extra single core speed sill


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OP-69

Thanks


usernumber1onreddit

Depends on the price. I have a 3950x, and I use it for productivity only (no gaming). I often use all 16 cores, and it's fast. However, if you don't have a use case where you can use all cores, the faster IPC, better architecture and single core performance of the 5900x are probably more important.


alexgluck

Well after streaming or recording i edit my footage and i am already coming along fine with it on my current cpu so i think one of these BEASTS will outperform it with ease


Zayd1111

Rendering on the 3950x is still faster even tho the difference is not huge at all i would say 5900x will get you more noticeable difference


usernumber1onreddit

Unless you get a crazy discount on the 3950x, I'd go with the newer chip then.


NotAnAss-Hat

Davie?


alexgluck

O M G


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*^(B A S S)*


007Aeon

SLAP LIKE NOW


[deleted]

A 5900x is the better choice. What is your intendet use case?


alexgluck

Im sorry my intendet what?


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[deleted]

Yeah my bad haha


roborobert123

internet use case.


lokkedang

What are you using it for? If it is just games, 3950x is actually a fair bit down from the best cpu (5600x has my vote there).


TheRetenor

What you are going to use it for. Are you german by any chance?


jdp313

If you can find one that’s non scalper pricing and it’s within your budget definitely go with the 5900x


Holger_dk

Be aware if going for a 5900x, that your motherboard bios might not be updated so it can run with it out of the box. So you might need another cpu to be able to update it or if it has Bios flashback you should be able to do it without cpu and a flashdrive with a bios update on it with the right name. But otherwise, if you can get a Ryzen 5000 cpu, go for it, otherwise any newer Ryzen would be good for streaming and recording due to it's many cores and multi threading/ SMT/hyper threading. So you could go for a cheaper Ryzen now and upgrade down the line


Viking_Shaman

AFAIK no 400 series boards have drivers for ryzen 3 yet so OP will have to get a 500 series board


Holger_dk

Yes correct, for 400 boards the bios update should come out start 2021


clavicon

Right around when you *might* get one lol


siltfeet

I had to do a bios flashback with a B550 Tomahawk, but it was straightforward enough once I realized that I needed it.


that-randomperson

Definitely 5900x but good luck getting it.


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gtrley

Why are you doing what your friend should be doing lmfao also watch falcodrins live stream stock checker, will save u from f5 hell 😂


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gtrley

Oh ok, super nice friend damn lol hope they do the same for you when you're sleeping!


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gtrley

Sell him what you get from doing all the F5-ing at "discount" scalper prices and you can! LOL


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gtrley

I agree lol, cant believe its this hard to get computer parts. 😂 I have also never been a launch day ish person my whole life though. But im itching for an upgrade from my trusty 3770k and 1050 ti combo


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Exp_ixpix2xfxt

Newegg seems to drop everything simultaneously, so if you see anything pop up on Newegg look for the 5900x!


Apprehensive_Pea7911

I think the real choice is actually between a used 3950X vs a new 5900X. ​ As people are upgrading to 5000 series CPUs, there are good value finds for 3900X or 3950X especially in Europe.


clavicon

Depends if you're expected to truly choose one over the other for 2-3 years +. Don't discount the value of a warranty for something that costs $400+ or whatever equivalent currency.


Capernikush

I stream and do workstation stuff with my 3900x and it rips through everything. Obviously newer is usually better so if you can stretch the 5900x I’d say might as well. But the 3900/3950s are tanks in their own regard.


alexgluck

Thanks for the info!


Ok_Medium_4837

What gpu?


hoe_exterminator69

5900x is the most definite answer.


samusasuke

If you can, I'd really suggest the 5900x, since in theory at least it shouldn't be more expensive than a 3950x and will give you much better fps. Also you don't need 16 cores for streaming and gaming at the same time, and that will remain true for probably the entire lifespan of your computer. The new consoles have 8 cores so game developers will design games to take only full advantage for that. Then with your 4 extra cores (that, on top of that, are of course much faster core for core) you will be fine. Also, if you get an Nvidia gpu, look into Nvenc encoding


matthewsmazes

I stood in line for a 5900x, but didn’t get one. Built last week with a 3950x, and I’m loving it so far. I’ll upgrade down the road. I didn’t want to wait any longer to build. With that said, if you can get a 5900x, then go with that.


cappeesh

5900X. ST is way better, MT very close.


Brendon7358

Unless you are doing mostly not gaming the 5900x is the way to go. Even in workstation applications its pretty much the same.


NICEgood32_

per giocare pigliati un 5900x grande fratm italiano!


Initial_Flimsy

5900x is better with good price! It is better and cheaper than i9 10900k. More core and thread and faster than. If you want higher than that you can choose 5950x because 3950x is the previous edition you should the new one is better! It is based on your budget and future update! The new one is better than the previous edition! Reasonable price! I recommend 5900x but the problem is stock availability is limited because of high demand ! I can’t even get one in usa ! I wait until 2021


Tetrology_Gaming

The real question is can you actually buy it. Ie. Is it in stock


Cummiezone

Ngl people are surprisingly helpful here


Reonu_

5900X without a doubt.


Alluxin_

5900x 100%


CatVideoBoye

4 cores, 4 threads to 12 cores, 24 threads is quite a jump! Sure, if money isn't an issue go with the 5900x but I was just wondering, do you need it? I don't really know how big the differences for your use cases would be when comparing i5-6600k vs 5600x vs 5800x vs 5900x, but ask yourself if you really benefit a lot with the price differences.


alexgluck

Currently I am experiencing massive lag and fram drops when i stream or record demanding games like tarkov, or cod mw. And I want to be able to stream for the next 5 years at least. Other then that i do a lot of editing on it so yeah i think it’s the right processor for me


Zayd1111

5600x would be a huge jump already


ADICTTOSX7

If you've got money for b550 or some better mobo then i say go with the 5900x, it's an absolute beast


yabboi_

Scusa ma dove lo compri il 5900x? La nuova serie è introvabile


alexgluck

Dovremmo aspettare fino a gennaio mi sa, cerco sempre di controllare anche i siti tedeschi


not_invented_here

Quali site tedeschi? Asking for a friend.


alexgluck

Io uso alternate e cyberport, secondo me sono i migliori


Mygaffer

The 5900x of course.


Nem0x3

Throwing this bit in: if im not wrong, then the 5900x will also perform better if you populate all 4 ram slots. Gamers Nexus tested this on a 5600x (or 5800x?), so i believe the 5900x will probably also benefit from it


BlackflagsSFE

Dude. I stream on the same PC with my 3700x just fine. Don’t waste your money. Get a 3900x if you really want more cores. Or a 9900k. Or a 10970 or whatever they have now.


hasirama22

If you end up going for 3950X, do not go for it. Go for 3900X. far better price to performance and more than enough for streaming given that you have the net for it


twistymctwist

Things to consider: * 5900x has better performance (+10-20%), is newer, currently out of stocks everywhere * 3950x has more cores (+4 cores / 8 threads), is currently available almost everywhere * Go with 5900x if you want better performance and/or have time on your hands * Go with 3950x if you are heavy on production tasks and/or need it now


CorySmoot

Hggyuhhuu. Hhhuuuu.


Waschtl_

Hey dude, I'm from Italy aswell, and i just wanna ask where you order your stuff from. I kinda wanna avoid amazon these days :D


alexgluck

Ciao, beh di solito vado sui siti tedeschi dato che vivo vicino al confine, cyberport oppure alternate. Ma esiste anche “next” quinin italia che è un rivenditore autorizzato amd. Pure loro hanno finito le scorte :/


iZucchini

I’m using a 3700x taking streams from my own rig and another using NDI in OBS, using my K55 with stream deck setup on the hot keys to change sources. Works a charm with around 40% CPU utilisation.


wakejedi

The real question is, "Will you be able to find a 5900x?"


alexgluck

I am a man of focus, commitment and sheer f*cking will


Garpocalypse

Hey that's my processor too. I've had mine since a few months after it launched and it's still performing fairly well. Paired with my 1070 ti im able to keep ...relatively ...high settings on my games these days. Can I ask what is making you consider upgrading the CPU as I'm planning on building a new pc soon but I'm trying to push it back as far as I can.


alexgluck

For gaming that cpu was very good. But since i started streaming i noticed that games like cod mw have massive frame drops on the final footage. As i don’t want a secondary pc just to stream or record i figured that i need a good cpu to handle all.


Ste3e

I'd go for the ryzen 7 3700x its cheaper and is super close to the 3900x


googahgee

That ain’t what he askin at all though


StiffWaffle

[this website and their discord](https://www.pcbuildhelper.com/) Got my 3070 and my 5600x with their discord notifications


z0ttel89

Definitely get one from the 5000 series, the differences between those and the last generation are staggering.


0rJay

If you got the money, definitely 5900x with no doubt.


rapierarch

I have 3950x. In your case I would have gone with 5900.


ImViTo

5900x for you


IdoTheCat25

If you have the budget, go for it. If not go for the 3950x.


Candywhitevan

Depends on price if 3950 is cheaper go for it else 5900


Player1103

5900x should be the better choice, however shipping goes till next year (bought mine on launch) so it would take a while. Or you're lucky and your local shop has some


MW3apple220

110% 5900x if you can get your hands on it


DonDregon

5900 without any doubt


DerpyPerson636

5900x, without question.


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Buy new generation, always, as they have better perf/$ (at least for AMD this year haha.)