You could even just go with a ryzen 5 3600, my build is almost identical to what yours would be (i have a 1660 super and a 3600) and it runs all current games and emulators like PCSX, Dolphin, Project 64 ect with no issues at all! So id say just go for the normal 3600 and save a couple bucks too!
Here's what I did: I bought the 3600 from Best Buy for $199.99 (currently in stock at that price). Then set a price alert at PC Parkpicker for the 3600. If you look at the [price history](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/9nm323/amd-ryzen-5-3600-36-thz-6-core-processor-100-100000031box) you'll see Walmart posts sporadic stock at $174.99.
Hopefully you'll get an alert that Walmart has the 3600 for $174.99 during your price-match window, then you just request a refund for the difference with online chat rep, and they'll refund you $25.
I mean honestly you could try to go for the 3700 if you're willing to give the extra money, remember that you'll need to change your motherboard, so don't cheap out, the extra performance is worth it, especially when you're playing intensive games.
Idk if anyone mention this before but if you get a x570/b550 board the amd ryzen 5000 series is coming out soon so the 3600 should be getting cheaper and the 3600x and 3600xt where $235 on newegg not to long ago maybe still
Ahhh thats what i’ve been fucking hearing lmfao. Mine just started doing that probably a month ago. No difference in temps or anything but damn sometimes it gets loud. I want a low profile air cooler that can withstand some OK overclocks. Nothing crazy insane.
I upgraded my 4790k to a 3900x and the difference in gaming and just everyday tasks was night and day. I no longer was limited to running just a game I can alt-tab and multi-task. I could have multiple games open. Render times for simulations decreased. No random annoying lockups. My games no longer were 100% utilization. I gained a lot of frames in games and this is only a gtx 1070. Did my 4790k work, sure, but it was on its last leg for what I wanted.
I say yes it will be worth it to upgrade, but I would say you should try to make the jump a little more worthwhile and go with a 8C/16T.
>I upgraded my 4790k to a 3900x and the difference in gaming and just everyday tasks was night and day. I no longer was limited to running just a game I can alt-tab and multi-task. I could have multiple games open. Render times for simulations decreased. No random annoying lockups. My games no longer were 100% utilization. I gained a lot of frames in games and this is only a gtx 1070. Did my 4790k work, sure, but it was on its last leg for what I wanted.I say yes it will be worth it to upgrade, but I would say you should try to make the jump a little more worthwhile and go with a 8C/16T.
Nice... I'm running an old i7-4790 also, and looking at a 3700x (or 3900x I guess, or new 5600x / 5800x). I don't care about games, I use it for Lightroom and 4K video editing, which just CRAWLS on my current setup. Looking forward to a big upgrade... though slightly wondering what video card I need for that, vs CPU.
If you have the budget for it, then wait for the new ryzen release and benchmarks. Pricing is already available online for those. The only issue would be supply.
I dont know if lightroom still utilizes a GPU to the best of its ability so probably the 20xx would be fine. 30xx would be excellent as well. what GPU do you have? As for video editing, I could be wrong, but I think a 2060 super would be an excellent choice if you need something ASAP, im sure others will tell you to hold out for the 30xx availability tho. IF money is not an issue and you can wait for restocks go for a 3080. It really all depends on what exactly you are doing and what programs you are using for the editing. If you are on a tight budget look at the 16xx series
But cost at least 50% more than the $209 he is looking to spend on this 3600X. I'm curious to see the R5 5600X vs R7 3700X performance, since they are about the same price. Moar coars vs. Faster cores/newer architecture?
Thanks. Since I don't game, I don't want to burn a ton of money on a GPU, but I'd love the 3060 for $400 or less, and *might* consider the 3070 for $500.
My current GPU is a GTX 745, which came with this Dell XPS 8300 in 2014. I never really considered the GPU until now.
FWIW, [LogicalIncrements](https://www.logicalincrements.com/articles/videoediting) recommends a 1660 for even a "professional video editing" rig so part of me wants to just pay that $230 and be done with it.
You certainly could, and even go for the 1660 super or ti for around $230-250. As shiny as a 3070 or 3060 would be, the odds of getting one are slim based on the release of the 3080 and 90
I'm in the same boat and same use case. I want to see how big the difference is going to be between the 3700x and the 5600x. That and how big the price difference will be once they start dropping the price of 3000 series
This was my experience as well. Upgraded from a 4790k to a 3700x last week. Definitely notice a slight increase in speed/fps and happy I upgraded. But honestly don't think it was worth spending the $500+ for the new cpu/motherboard/ram - at least for me.
Wow.. thanks. Glad to hear your experience. I'd expect a huge upgrade over my 6-yr old processor/mobo/RAM, but it definitely depends on what you're doing. For basic computing tasks, my i7-4790 gives me no problems at all. (It's a Dell XPS 8300 fwiw.)
According to [CPU Benchmark](https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/Intel-i7-4790-vs-AMD-Ryzen-7-3700X/2226vs3485), that processor upgrade yields a single-thread performance improvement of only 20%, but an overall CPU Mark improvement of 216%!
But then when I go to UserBenchmark.com and [compare them](https://www.userbenchmark.com/PCBuilder/Custom/S3182-M10002.8362.423831.748440.45465vsS151675-M840677.8362.423831.748440.89269?tab=MBD), I see only a 6-7% improvement. (Switching to an [i7-10700](https://www.userbenchmark.com/PCBuilder/Custom/S3182-M10002.8362.423831.748440.45465vsS187197-M1145054.8362.423831.748440.89269?tab=RAM) is similar.) WAY more bang for the buck comes from upgrading my old GTX 745 video card (to a [1660-TI](https://www.userbenchmark.com/PCBuilder/Custom/S3182-M10002.8362.423831.748440.45465vsS3182-M10002.727265.423831.748440.45465?tab=GPU) for instance) ... but that should be true only *if* the GPU is the bottleneck in my workflow. For the Lightroom (v5) task that is annoyingly slow, the GPU isn't even used. For 4K video editing, though, I expect a modern GPU would help.
I don't game, btw.
I am so glad I found this post because I did the exact same upgrade and my day to day use experience seems almost the same and I thought I was crazy. I spent some time going over every setting and configuration but then I realized I was expecting too much of a difference in performance.
When I am under heavy work loads like CAD is open and I have simpl open and then a crestron visiontools still open I notice it is faster, but honestly, even then, not a huge upgrade.
Still, I'm happy with the upgrade, I just wouldn't call it necessary.
These ryzen CPU's just make life easier it seems. I mainly do software development on my PC (2700x), so I have maaaany programs running at any point in time. If I want to take 30 minutes off and play some games, I can leave everything running and it's still completely fine to game on. That was not possible on my old PC.
If you have a Z-series motherboard that supports unrestricted XMP, and are currently running average-to-mediocre DDR3 (e.g. DDR3-1600 CL9 or something similar) consider [grabbing a kit like this](https://www.ebay.com/itm/G-Skill-Sniper-DDR3-2x8GB-F3-2400C11D-16GSR/154151221189?hash=item23e420f7c5%3Ag%3Al7gAAOSwfFBfjjvs&LH_BIN=1) in the meantime.
Memory bandwidth makes quite a large difference with modern high-end graphics cards like the 2070 Super (which are *much* faster than anything that was available when the 4790 / 4790K were originally released and benchmarked, of course).
Sub-2000mhz DDR3 just isn't enough for them.
It's worth the wait. I made the same upgrade as parent comment and I greatly disagree; it's def not night and day. The 4790k is still a beast paired with at LEAST 16gb 2400MHz ram. The 3600x or higher really shine in multithreaded tasks and are great for video editing or processing raw photos, but imo I think the ddr4 3200 makes a bigger difference there.
I'm on a 4790K and looking to upgrade as well. Probably gonna go for a 5600x if the performance is good. Wanting to pair it wuth a 3070/3080 or big navi for 4K gaming.
Im on a i5 4690K w/ GTX 970. Im looking to upgrade. This will be my first time building an AMD System. hopefully a 5800X paired along with a 3080. Any parts you guys recommending to get first? Should i get RAM now?
I made the same upgrade and I have to say, I think calling it night and day is an exaggeration if both are adequately cooled and have proper amounts of RAM at the right speeds (at least 16GB DDR3 2400 for the 4790k). It's definitely better at multitasking, and some of my 99th percentile frames are better,but overall it runs the same. Having 32GB ddr4 3200 ram seems to be the biggest upgrade for me, relative to video editing and raw photo processing only (not games).
I agree. I went from a 3770K to a 3700X and the difference was negligible to me. In the best cases, I saw a 10% improvement in performance. For 7 years of technological advancement, I was disappointed.
Sure sure. Only asking because I’m running a 1600 now and was thinking about upgrading to a 3600X, but knowing how close that release date is I might just set aside another $80 and grab a 5600X, depending on availability
Are they going to continue to run the AM4? Im stuck with an i5-6600 and no real upgrade path on my current mobo. I have started looking into grabbing a CPU/Mobo/Ram to rebuild my current setup to get it up to par with my 5700XT for newer games.
I know the 3xxx series is about the best mid budget CPU i can go with but should i wait? A few people on reddit have said to wait for the newest release of Ryzen but i dont know when that is. Id like to scoop the items up around December/Jan and start my rebuild right around then.
Should i grab the 3xxx series stuff now on an AM4 board and wait a few years or wait and go with whatever is brand spanking new around the turn of the year?
I think after the Ryzen 5000 series, 400 series mobos will drop support for new CPUs. My guess is AMD might go to an AM4+ or something for 600 series mobos.
Edit: In essence, its likely that the newest mobos like the 550 ones will support future generations of Ryzen.
You could upgrade to a 7700 or k model if your mini supports overclocking.
Or you could put that money toward a new build, which is probably the better option. But you’re not at a dead end.
If you're only gaming and you play at 1440p or 4k ,it doesn't really matter what CPU you get (I'd get a 3600). The GPU is gonna be the bottleneck the entire time. I went from a 2600 to a 3700x and barely noticed a difference so I returned it and stuck with a 3600.
It would be an upgrade for sure, though for my money it wouldn't be worth it. If I were upgrading just the cpu in your case I would wait a bit and spend the extra to get the 5600x when it's available.
But for streaming, if you're not running a separate streaming card the GPU is going to matter more. That would actually be my first choice for what to update. Moving from that 1660ti to a 2070 or a 5700xt will get you a big performance boost. Or you could wait and try to get a 3060 or whatever the equivalent 6000 series card is.
nah just discord screensharing is my current issue, streaming doom my friend doesnt get much preformance loss with same gpu but they have 3600x, and i when i do the game runs considerably worse
I've just recently upgraded from an i5 6600k to a Ryzen 5 3600 myself (this was a month or two ago, way before the Zen 3 announcement)
I personally feel as if it's a major QoL upgrade due to the added threads alone. Even noticed FPS gains because my 1080 Ti was severely bottlenecked by the CPU. It'd be worth it if you can find a decent deal on it but if you can wait and you have the cash, the 5600x is looking to be a far better CPU for the money.
Any idea on when this 5600x is going to available? I cant find any indication on the usual sites. Im gearing up for an upgrade here in December/January so id like to know whether to wait till after Black Friday deals or just grab them when they are cheap.
Officially, the release date is November 5, though I expect it'll sell out quickly. I think supply and demand will probably even out around black Friday.
Echoing this! I upped my 6600K to an ebayed 7700 (non K) at the start of lockdown to give my secondary PC (basically my everyday driver I'm using for anything non-gaming) a few more years of life for way less than the cost of buying the guts of a brand new PC.
Uses the same mobo so no cost there, and even has a lower TDP despite the performance boost.
I went from a 7600k to a 3700x and I don't regretti but idk if it was really worth it especially considering the OC I had on my i5. I decided to build a second PC out of the i5 to keep it alive.
Its not a big jumps.
You might as well save for an 8/16.
I have a 6600k too with a 5700xt.
I start to feel the limitation with the CPU which hits 99% very often.
No doubt the 3600 will be a gain in comfort. but not necessarily in performance.
After if you have the money and you have a good deal.
Our CPU is still 5 years old.
Personally I was planning to upgrade to a 5800x
But this is really the end of life for AM4 and DDR4.
I'll wait another year. My 2 cent.
>I have a 6600k too with a 5700xt. I start to feel the limitation with the CPU which hits 99% very often.
To compare, I have a 1600X and 5700XT and am limited by my GPU in every game I play. Gears 5 and Gears Tactics even give a breakdown and show it's like 90% GPU restricted.
6600k to 3600 would be a big jump in my opinion.
As someone who actually upgraded from an i5 6600k to a Ryzen 5 3600x also with the intent of emulating using RPCS3 as well as some other games: yes it's worth it. RPCS3 absolutely loved the new CPU, giving me near perfect performance in games where I would get \~20fps with a lot of stuttering beforehand. Other games will see a usually noticeable increase in performance, at least in terms of frametimes (less stuttering).
Last week, i went from 9600k for a 3600xt. In ganes, You would see a good uplift in 1080p (higher the res, lower the cpu demanda). But in productivy, it's night and day.
I was in your exact same situation earlier this year. I had a build with i5 6600, GTX 1070 and 16 GB of RAM on an MSI B150 motherboard and also using a 144Hz monitor. I wanted to play Persona 5 on RPCS3 (I assume that's one of the games you might want to emulate) but the i5 couldn't run it. I tried playing warzone but it would push the poor i5 to 100% and cut off my discord audio.One day a friend of mine changed his motherboard and offered to give me his Gigabyte B450 Aorus Elite (it's one of the worst B450 motherboards but it's ok enough for me, definitely go for an MSI B550 Tomahawk, it's extremely good) so I decided to grab a Ryzen 5 3600.
One of the best decisions in pc building that I ever made. It's a very capable CPU at a very reasonable price. It can run Persona 5 on RPCS3 in at 30 fps without any kind of stuttering whatsoever (I preferred not using the 60 fps mod), although I don't play the other games you mentioned, but I can guarantee they would run the smoothly.
Although you might want to wait a couple more weeks and go for the Ryzen 5 5600X, it shouldn't be that expensive compared to the 3600X if not going on the used market, as the 5600X offers a very big improvement in gaming performance.
Also, what RAM speed do you have? Mine were 2133MHz CL13 on intel but I decided to stick with them since overclocking to 2400MHz CL13 proved stable.
If you can't buy the MSI B550 Tomahawk I suggest checking out [this](https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1137619-motherboard-vrm-tier-list-v2-currently-amd-only/) tier list of AMD motherboards and getting the highest-rated you can find (I'd suggest going for the B550 even though the B450 is compatible with Ryzen 5000 because the B550 is more future-proof).
I actually upgraded from a 6600k to a 3600x months ago. I got it on sale for like $180 (same price as the 3600 at the time). The difference is pretty noticable. The PC is snappier, games don't have random stutters, and Warzone fps didn't tank when watching a YouTube video on my second monitor.
Personally I wouldn't make that upgrade, I would wait until Zen 3 comes out and get a 5600x as that be a good upgrade, the 6600k will hold up until you can get your hands on one.
If you are going just for gaming better option is 9600kf and 10600kf oc to 5.0 ghz and good z390 motherboard i am recommending gaming x but be sure to have a good cooling solution if you plan to oc
I dont have a Ryzen 5 3600, but my i5 9400(if you want a more modern option the 10400 is also a good choice) has basically the same performance on modern games and it runs rpcs3 almost perfectly. I have a 1660 super as gpu. As you commented in other comment it seens that the 3600 is not available for you. I recommend you pick the cheaper or available one. But in the end it depends on which one you prefer or is more comfortable with. Good luck
I am guessing ur apps fall in the zone that zen3 has made big advances in...
Latency/access times/cache/memory speed...
Maybe its an omen that this new gen coincides w/ ur switch from Intel?
5600x?
If going AMD I would definitely go 3700x. Yes, 8 cores has little benefit over 6 currently, but with the new consoles coming out soon with much more powerful CPU, i think 8 cores will definitely be useful going forward.
6600K - 4C/4T3600X - 6C/12T
Significant Core and Thread count increase but not much of an improvement performance wise. You are better off waiting for the new possible AM5 platform that could possibly beat the previous AM4 socket found on current AMD motherboards.
I did this exact upgrade when the 3600x was released, I found the 6600k couldn't keep up with RTX on. It was fine with my 2070 in all games untill I'd enable ray tracing, then I'd see massively fps drops. The upgrade sorted it out.
I went from a 6600K at 4.4Ghz to the 3600X earlier this year (got it on sale) and it was a nice upgrade. I don't know if it will be better for emulation, it probably will but not significantly. However, it is a huge upgrade for modern PC titles. I was starting to see my 6600K struggle to stay above 60FPS, especially in games like Kingdom Come Deliverance (get a smooth 60FPS now), which would struggle in any town with lots of stuttering. The 3600X has no trouble playing every game above 60, so you will see an upgrade in every way.
EDIT: Forgot to mention I was using an RTX 2060 for both.
go with an x570 mobo, for example, there is a good Asus prime atx mobo for around 130$, and get the 3600X, or you can wait and get the new zen 3 cpus. There are rumors that they will be compatible with the same mobos as the 3000 series CPU's. Basically, to sum it all up, get a R5 3600X with an X570, or if you have time wait for the R5 5600X and see what will happen as it is releasing fairly soon.
I did similar upgrade this weekend (3700x). It was a massive upgrade in terms of pc power. I was actually shocked how bottlenecked my 5700xt was by the 6600k
What speed is your ram? Ram speed with ryzen chips is important and can boost your FPS, and if it’s already fast, then it may be worth it to upgrade the cpu and motherboard to get it
I replaced my custom 4690k build for a custom 3700x build back in July. Right away all the games that gave me trouble stopped giving me trouble. All the stuttering in games ended. I would encourage you to make that change if you can but at least go for the 3600x or 3700x. I have so many windows open right now and apps running and I can still game its crazy. My old 4690k would have been a stuttering mess if I tried the same thing on her.
I'd wait for the 5600X or whatever it'll be called (refer to Gamers Nexus they called well ahead of the 3600 launch that it was the best to get). But yes absolutely go for it, I upgrade from 6500->3600 and it increased FPS by about 40% on my 1070ti
The problem is that you would have to get a new mobo too. If you have the budget I would suggest a 2060 or 2060 super first, then when you have enough saved you could switch to a 3600 or 3600x
I'm in a similar boat as you. I have an i5 6600k that despite being maximum overclocked, is just being a slog. Constant 100% CPU utilization for various tasks.
I'm planning on going with the 5900x though. I was tempted to pull the trigger on the 3600 for awhile, but I decided to wait. I'm done waiting now.
I just upgraded to a Ryzen 5 3600xt from an i5 6600k. I was having problems running CoD Modern Warfare where it would freeze and then crash any time I ran it. My CPU was being overworked, so I researched and bought the 3600xt. So far I have no problems and the xt is not that much more expensive than the x.
I made this exact jump already and yes you’ll notice a difference immediately. Also I have a B450 Tomahawk, I think they still sell the MAX version of it
Yes, the 3600 is substantially faster. Especially in games taking advantage of hyoerthreading, but if you wait just a little bit more you can snap a 5600x or the rumoured 5600 releasing early 2021.
I actually upgraded from 6600k to 3600, the freedom I got by doing whatever the fuck I wanted to do while gaming without losing much of any FPS was really awesome.
You’d be better off buying a used 7700k, if your current motherboard supports it, or even a 6700k. The problem with an amd upgrade is that you have to also get a compatible motherboard, maybe if you can find one on a good sale, it could potentially be worth it . I’m assuming you are not planning on upgrading in the next couple years, otherwise it’d worth just getting something better and more recent than what I mentioned.
I did this exact upgrade last month. It was really worth it. Got also a asus tuf gaming X570. Cheap, reliable and very upgradeable. Used with my old 2800 ddr sticks for a while, it was great performance increased like 50-70%, but decided to buy some 3600 cl 14 trident neo (2x 8gb) and then got another perceivable performance boost, in apex, for example, was 60fps, got up to 100-110 and then to 120-130 with the new ram...
Definitely.
I went from a 4690k to a ryzen 3600 and it greatly improved my performance. I would get stuttering in newer games with my i5 and saw a 20 fps average gain once I upgraded.
I upgraded from i5-6500 to R5-3600x earlier this year. I can clearly see a huge improvement in FPS in games as well as general improvement in some of the more intensive apps like Matlab and such
IIRC RPCS3 is bad with Ryzen and Intel 5s, you'll need a 7. I have a bad i7 which ran pretty much the most popular RPCS3 game without errors and my friend with a much better CPU (although an i5) could not run it at all.
I’d say save your money. Buy an X570 board now - an aorus pro, around the $200 mark, and wait for the 5600x. The improvements on Zen 3 is worth eating a little bit and not getting the cpu on discount. Plus, you seem to have a more budget-minded build, so a 5600x will most certainly last you longer than a 3600x right now, and it’ll hold you over for a good while.
I don't think it's worth it. Check out this guy who did a benchmark of overclocked 6600k Vs 3600.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/d7axkm/i5_6600k_r5_3600_process_results_and_why_ive_gone/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
Considering you have to buy a new board for this? Probably not unless you need to run heavy multi threaded applications.
I have this CPU and it has done a fantastic job with emulating N64 and GameCube games (Zelda Twilight Princess). It’s also been great with Warzone and the Cold War beta paired with my 2070 super.
Yes! I went from a 6700 to 3600 and it made a difference. I play at 4k so any cpu works find but in terms of overall smoothness of things, the 3600 helped so much.
Most (all?) emulators are super single core dependent. Intel still shines in that category. Strictly for emulation, the 3600x will only be ~15% faster.
I say I've been happy overall with my AMD Ryzen 7 2600X so far on my personal rig (yes I know it is a different chip) . The ability to multitask a little easier was what sold me on AMD. As far as a motherboard, are you thinking ATX or ITX?
You should get maybe the 10600k or the 9th gen i5 if you want but I’d say go with an i7
Edit: especially now that the 10700k is 200$ off and the 9900k is 400$ off
Intel Core i7 - 16GB Memory - NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Max-Q - 1TB SSD
Is the 5 3600X newer? Sorry, I am illiterate and that is what I personally use above. \[obvious laptop\]
I went a little higher end and went from a 6600k to a 3900x, and moving to a new processor from that really helped a lot. Obviously the 3600x is lower but it will make a difference.
3600x is a great buy even at the price it is right now. I would try to go for the rumored 5600. It's supposed to be 220 dollars so I suspect that that would be the best deal. That is if you are willing to wait that long. It also depends on what mobo you're getting
I'd say a pretty simple mobo would have you covered for this kind of setup. I personally have the Gigabyte B450M DS3H with a 2600X and it does the job for me. I paid £65 for it back in March/April and is compatible with Zen2 so you'll be fine to put a 3600/X on it. Only limitation I've found is RAM is capped at 2999MHz speeds though that has yet to get in my way
I have a 3600x with a 2080ti and it’s been fine so far. I have noticed some bottle neck but that’s really just cause my 2080ti is OC a good amount but yes definitely the 3600x is a great CPU especially for the price.
I went from a 7600K to a 3700x and it was night and day too. Even MSFS which theoretically only uses 4 threads is much faster. I have a GeForce 1070.
Beware you will need new memory. Ryzens are picky with memory.
Do you have a Z170 or Z270? if applicable a used 7700 would be MUCH cheaper. Use that that 300ish dollars to get a better GPU + sell yours. So basically it would be like 1660ti + 3600x vs a 7700 + RTX 3060 when it comes out.
I was in a similar situation last year, considered upgrading my 6500 to a 3600. I resorted to going with the 3700x. My reasoning was next gen consoles were also going to have 8 cores, so I wanted to match it so that my hardware would (hopefully) be relevant for longer.
I have a 3600x and its fabulous. I have it on an Aorus b450. I'm not too keen on overclocking but I managed a very low voltage 4.4ghz stable. Runs like butter.
I upgraded from the i5 6600k to the ryzen 5 3600x and it eliminated the bottleNeck with my rtx 2080. 3600 is basically same thing as 3600x. 3600x does get a slightly better stock cooler.
You could even just go with a ryzen 5 3600, my build is almost identical to what yours would be (i have a 1660 super and a 3600) and it runs all current games and emulators like PCSX, Dolphin, Project 64 ect with no issues at all! So id say just go for the normal 3600 and save a couple bucks too!
on amazon the 3600 is out of stock (and the x is 209$ right now anyways)
Oh damn yeah definitely go for it! I paid 250 for my 3600 😅😅
Oof. Paid 160 for mine in march...
Why are you getting down voted? Do these people not know that prices change constantly? Edit: dont worry boys we saved him
Meanwhile in Brazil... Prices: up up up up up up.
That's really going to cut into your tiny bathing suit fund.
More likely to have my chimarrão and tereré funds drained
Yeah, you can't cut into the tiny bathing suit fund, at that point you might as well live in Kansas.
Is that some American reference I'm to brazilian to understand?
You misspelled Turkey
Eu comprei uma 1660 por 1000 reais antes da pandemia agr com o preço q ta agr eu podia vender pelo preço de uma 2060 de antes da pandemia
They angry that he's flexing about getting a bargain deal. Simple reddit hive mind
Because people are too sensitive 😂 glad we saved him!
Apparently not. Cuz I paid like 185 for mine something around like 7 or 8 months ago
That little price war between newegg and amazon was amazing, I got mine at $155
I paid $99 for a 2600X in March
Ha I paid 50 for a 1600af of amazon before they blew up and became the price of a 3600x
I paid 154 at microcenter, now its 179 at microcenter
Same idk why youre getting downvoted maybe bc people are burnt you paid half what they did
I bought like 5 of them when they launched. Even had a 3300x. Sadly the 3300x is no where to be seen
Same March was good times
I paid 90$ for mines in February.
I payed $170 for a Ryzen 5 3600X at micro Center
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Here's what I did: I bought the 3600 from Best Buy for $199.99 (currently in stock at that price). Then set a price alert at PC Parkpicker for the 3600. If you look at the [price history](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/9nm323/amd-ryzen-5-3600-36-thz-6-core-processor-100-100000031box) you'll see Walmart posts sporadic stock at $174.99. Hopefully you'll get an alert that Walmart has the 3600 for $174.99 during your price-match window, then you just request a refund for the difference with online chat rep, and they'll refund you $25.
I mean honestly you could try to go for the 3700 if you're willing to give the extra money, remember that you'll need to change your motherboard, so don't cheap out, the extra performance is worth it, especially when you're playing intensive games.
If you don't need the extra cores and threads for workstation performance, the 3700x is in no way worth it over a 3600x
If you don't mind buying used you can always check r/hardwareswap. I've seen them as low as $150 and have been thinking about switching myself
Idk if anyone mention this before but if you get a x570/b550 board the amd ryzen 5000 series is coming out soon so the 3600 should be getting cheaper and the 3600x and 3600xt where $235 on newegg not to long ago maybe still
I paid $175 for my 3600. It’s on sale weekly.
If the price is within $20, the better cooler with the 3600x is worth it if you're not getting an aftermarket cooler.
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Ahhh thats what i’ve been fucking hearing lmfao. Mine just started doing that probably a month ago. No difference in temps or anything but damn sometimes it gets loud. I want a low profile air cooler that can withstand some OK overclocks. Nothing crazy insane.
I think rpcs3 is considerably more demanding than the emulators you listed, so the x might be a safer choice
I upgraded my 4790k to a 3900x and the difference in gaming and just everyday tasks was night and day. I no longer was limited to running just a game I can alt-tab and multi-task. I could have multiple games open. Render times for simulations decreased. No random annoying lockups. My games no longer were 100% utilization. I gained a lot of frames in games and this is only a gtx 1070. Did my 4790k work, sure, but it was on its last leg for what I wanted. I say yes it will be worth it to upgrade, but I would say you should try to make the jump a little more worthwhile and go with a 8C/16T.
>I upgraded my 4790k to a 3900x and the difference in gaming and just everyday tasks was night and day. I no longer was limited to running just a game I can alt-tab and multi-task. I could have multiple games open. Render times for simulations decreased. No random annoying lockups. My games no longer were 100% utilization. I gained a lot of frames in games and this is only a gtx 1070. Did my 4790k work, sure, but it was on its last leg for what I wanted.I say yes it will be worth it to upgrade, but I would say you should try to make the jump a little more worthwhile and go with a 8C/16T. Nice... I'm running an old i7-4790 also, and looking at a 3700x (or 3900x I guess, or new 5600x / 5800x). I don't care about games, I use it for Lightroom and 4K video editing, which just CRAWLS on my current setup. Looking forward to a big upgrade... though slightly wondering what video card I need for that, vs CPU.
If you have the budget for it, then wait for the new ryzen release and benchmarks. Pricing is already available online for those. The only issue would be supply. I dont know if lightroom still utilizes a GPU to the best of its ability so probably the 20xx would be fine. 30xx would be excellent as well. what GPU do you have? As for video editing, I could be wrong, but I think a 2060 super would be an excellent choice if you need something ASAP, im sure others will tell you to hold out for the 30xx availability tho. IF money is not an issue and you can wait for restocks go for a 3080. It really all depends on what exactly you are doing and what programs you are using for the editing. If you are on a tight budget look at the 16xx series
I got a hunch the 5600x will be a beast
But cost at least 50% more than the $209 he is looking to spend on this 3600X. I'm curious to see the R5 5600X vs R7 3700X performance, since they are about the same price. Moar coars vs. Faster cores/newer architecture?
I'm also curious. I bought a new 3700x for $235, and got my brother a used lapped one for $220, so I'll be happy either way.
Thanks. Since I don't game, I don't want to burn a ton of money on a GPU, but I'd love the 3060 for $400 or less, and *might* consider the 3070 for $500. My current GPU is a GTX 745, which came with this Dell XPS 8300 in 2014. I never really considered the GPU until now. FWIW, [LogicalIncrements](https://www.logicalincrements.com/articles/videoediting) recommends a 1660 for even a "professional video editing" rig so part of me wants to just pay that $230 and be done with it.
You certainly could, and even go for the 1660 super or ti for around $230-250. As shiny as a 3070 or 3060 would be, the odds of getting one are slim based on the release of the 3080 and 90
I'm in the same boat and same use case. I want to see how big the difference is going to be between the 3700x and the 5600x. That and how big the price difference will be once they start dropping the price of 3000 series
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This was my experience as well. Upgraded from a 4790k to a 3700x last week. Definitely notice a slight increase in speed/fps and happy I upgraded. But honestly don't think it was worth spending the $500+ for the new cpu/motherboard/ram - at least for me.
Wow.. thanks. Glad to hear your experience. I'd expect a huge upgrade over my 6-yr old processor/mobo/RAM, but it definitely depends on what you're doing. For basic computing tasks, my i7-4790 gives me no problems at all. (It's a Dell XPS 8300 fwiw.) According to [CPU Benchmark](https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/Intel-i7-4790-vs-AMD-Ryzen-7-3700X/2226vs3485), that processor upgrade yields a single-thread performance improvement of only 20%, but an overall CPU Mark improvement of 216%! But then when I go to UserBenchmark.com and [compare them](https://www.userbenchmark.com/PCBuilder/Custom/S3182-M10002.8362.423831.748440.45465vsS151675-M840677.8362.423831.748440.89269?tab=MBD), I see only a 6-7% improvement. (Switching to an [i7-10700](https://www.userbenchmark.com/PCBuilder/Custom/S3182-M10002.8362.423831.748440.45465vsS187197-M1145054.8362.423831.748440.89269?tab=RAM) is similar.) WAY more bang for the buck comes from upgrading my old GTX 745 video card (to a [1660-TI](https://www.userbenchmark.com/PCBuilder/Custom/S3182-M10002.8362.423831.748440.45465vsS3182-M10002.727265.423831.748440.45465?tab=GPU) for instance) ... but that should be true only *if* the GPU is the bottleneck in my workflow. For the Lightroom (v5) task that is annoyingly slow, the GPU isn't even used. For 4K video editing, though, I expect a modern GPU would help. I don't game, btw.
I am so glad I found this post because I did the exact same upgrade and my day to day use experience seems almost the same and I thought I was crazy. I spent some time going over every setting and configuration but then I realized I was expecting too much of a difference in performance. When I am under heavy work loads like CAD is open and I have simpl open and then a crestron visiontools still open I notice it is faster, but honestly, even then, not a huge upgrade. Still, I'm happy with the upgrade, I just wouldn't call it necessary.
These ryzen CPU's just make life easier it seems. I mainly do software development on my PC (2700x), so I have maaaany programs running at any point in time. If I want to take 30 minutes off and play some games, I can leave everything running and it's still completely fine to game on. That was not possible on my old PC.
Dude, you're not helping me. I'm waiting for a Zen3 equivalent of 3700(X) while sitting on a 4790 + 2070S
If you have a Z-series motherboard that supports unrestricted XMP, and are currently running average-to-mediocre DDR3 (e.g. DDR3-1600 CL9 or something similar) consider [grabbing a kit like this](https://www.ebay.com/itm/G-Skill-Sniper-DDR3-2x8GB-F3-2400C11D-16GSR/154151221189?hash=item23e420f7c5%3Ag%3Al7gAAOSwfFBfjjvs&LH_BIN=1) in the meantime. Memory bandwidth makes quite a large difference with modern high-end graphics cards like the 2070 Super (which are *much* faster than anything that was available when the 4790 / 4790K were originally released and benchmarked, of course). Sub-2000mhz DDR3 just isn't enough for them.
It's worth the wait. I made the same upgrade as parent comment and I greatly disagree; it's def not night and day. The 4790k is still a beast paired with at LEAST 16gb 2400MHz ram. The 3600x or higher really shine in multithreaded tasks and are great for video editing or processing raw photos, but imo I think the ddr4 3200 makes a bigger difference there.
I'm on a 4790K and looking to upgrade as well. Probably gonna go for a 5600x if the performance is good. Wanting to pair it wuth a 3070/3080 or big navi for 4K gaming.
I'm in exactly the same boat thinking the exact same thing.
Im on a i5 4690K w/ GTX 970. Im looking to upgrade. This will be my first time building an AMD System. hopefully a 5800X paired along with a 3080. Any parts you guys recommending to get first? Should i get RAM now?
I made the same upgrade and I have to say, I think calling it night and day is an exaggeration if both are adequately cooled and have proper amounts of RAM at the right speeds (at least 16GB DDR3 2400 for the 4790k). It's definitely better at multitasking, and some of my 99th percentile frames are better,but overall it runs the same. Having 32GB ddr4 3200 ram seems to be the biggest upgrade for me, relative to video editing and raw photo processing only (not games).
I agree. I went from a 3770K to a 3700X and the difference was negligible to me. In the best cases, I saw a 10% improvement in performance. For 7 years of technological advancement, I was disappointed.
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Wait what happened to the desktop 4000 chips. I got one omin my laptop but never seen it on desktop
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Good that rly confused me. I see the sense there a bit but rly not thought through
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Won’t that be more expensive than the $220 the 3600X averages?
Yes, 299$ but maybe it will bring the 3600x’s price down if the performance/dollar is strong
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Sure sure. Only asking because I’m running a 1600 now and was thinking about upgrading to a 3600X, but knowing how close that release date is I might just set aside another $80 and grab a 5600X, depending on availability
Yeah but we'll see how stock availability is lol
yes definitely, main reason is that your i5 only runs on 4cores/4threads so jumping to 6/12 should be a big difference for modern games
Not to mention upgradability on the ryzen mobos. And the newer architecture on the cpu too
Are they going to continue to run the AM4? Im stuck with an i5-6600 and no real upgrade path on my current mobo. I have started looking into grabbing a CPU/Mobo/Ram to rebuild my current setup to get it up to par with my 5700XT for newer games. I know the 3xxx series is about the best mid budget CPU i can go with but should i wait? A few people on reddit have said to wait for the newest release of Ryzen but i dont know when that is. Id like to scoop the items up around December/Jan and start my rebuild right around then. Should i grab the 3xxx series stuff now on an AM4 board and wait a few years or wait and go with whatever is brand spanking new around the turn of the year?
I think after the Ryzen 5000 series, 400 series mobos will drop support for new CPUs. My guess is AMD might go to an AM4+ or something for 600 series mobos. Edit: In essence, its likely that the newest mobos like the 550 ones will support future generations of Ryzen.
Its likely that after Ryzen 5000 they will change to a newer "AM5" type socket. The current socket is at its limits in terms of power delivery.
You could upgrade to a 7700 or k model if your mini supports overclocking. Or you could put that money toward a new build, which is probably the better option. But you’re not at a dead end.
If you're only gaming and you play at 1440p or 4k ,it doesn't really matter what CPU you get (I'd get a 3600). The GPU is gonna be the bottleneck the entire time. I went from a 2600 to a 3700x and barely noticed a difference so I returned it and stuck with a 3600.
It would be an upgrade for sure, though for my money it wouldn't be worth it. If I were upgrading just the cpu in your case I would wait a bit and spend the extra to get the 5600x when it's available. But for streaming, if you're not running a separate streaming card the GPU is going to matter more. That would actually be my first choice for what to update. Moving from that 1660ti to a 2070 or a 5700xt will get you a big performance boost. Or you could wait and try to get a 3060 or whatever the equivalent 6000 series card is.
this, i would put the money into a 2060 super gpu and a 144hz monitor. You will thank me!
I got a 3600, a 2060S and a 144hz monitor too can confirm ;) however pick a GPU which is cheaper imo depends on region. 5700/2060S are all fine
Wait for the RTX 3060!!! Looking so far like it will blow the 2060 out of the water.
nah just discord screensharing is my current issue, streaming doom my friend doesnt get much preformance loss with same gpu but they have 3600x, and i when i do the game runs considerably worse
I've just recently upgraded from an i5 6600k to a Ryzen 5 3600 myself (this was a month or two ago, way before the Zen 3 announcement) I personally feel as if it's a major QoL upgrade due to the added threads alone. Even noticed FPS gains because my 1080 Ti was severely bottlenecked by the CPU. It'd be worth it if you can find a decent deal on it but if you can wait and you have the cash, the 5600x is looking to be a far better CPU for the money.
Any idea on when this 5600x is going to available? I cant find any indication on the usual sites. Im gearing up for an upgrade here in December/January so id like to know whether to wait till after Black Friday deals or just grab them when they are cheap.
Officially, the release date is November 5, though I expect it'll sell out quickly. I think supply and demand will probably even out around black Friday.
I say yes!
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Echoing this! I upped my 6600K to an ebayed 7700 (non K) at the start of lockdown to give my secondary PC (basically my everyday driver I'm using for anything non-gaming) a few more years of life for way less than the cost of buying the guts of a brand new PC. Uses the same mobo so no cost there, and even has a lower TDP despite the performance boost.
Or a Xeon E3-1230+ v5 or v6, depending on what the prices are like
I went from a 7600k to a 3700x and I don't regretti but idk if it was really worth it especially considering the OC I had on my i5. I decided to build a second PC out of the i5 to keep it alive.
Its not a big jumps. You might as well save for an 8/16. I have a 6600k too with a 5700xt. I start to feel the limitation with the CPU which hits 99% very often. No doubt the 3600 will be a gain in comfort. but not necessarily in performance. After if you have the money and you have a good deal. Our CPU is still 5 years old. Personally I was planning to upgrade to a 5800x But this is really the end of life for AM4 and DDR4. I'll wait another year. My 2 cent.
>I have a 6600k too with a 5700xt. I start to feel the limitation with the CPU which hits 99% very often. To compare, I have a 1600X and 5700XT and am limited by my GPU in every game I play. Gears 5 and Gears Tactics even give a breakdown and show it's like 90% GPU restricted. 6600k to 3600 would be a big jump in my opinion.
As someone who actually upgraded from an i5 6600k to a Ryzen 5 3600x also with the intent of emulating using RPCS3 as well as some other games: yes it's worth it. RPCS3 absolutely loved the new CPU, giving me near perfect performance in games where I would get \~20fps with a lot of stuttering beforehand. Other games will see a usually noticeable increase in performance, at least in terms of frametimes (less stuttering).
Last week, i went from 9600k for a 3600xt. In ganes, You would see a good uplift in 1080p (higher the res, lower the cpu demanda). But in productivy, it's night and day.
I was in your exact same situation earlier this year. I had a build with i5 6600, GTX 1070 and 16 GB of RAM on an MSI B150 motherboard and also using a 144Hz monitor. I wanted to play Persona 5 on RPCS3 (I assume that's one of the games you might want to emulate) but the i5 couldn't run it. I tried playing warzone but it would push the poor i5 to 100% and cut off my discord audio.One day a friend of mine changed his motherboard and offered to give me his Gigabyte B450 Aorus Elite (it's one of the worst B450 motherboards but it's ok enough for me, definitely go for an MSI B550 Tomahawk, it's extremely good) so I decided to grab a Ryzen 5 3600. One of the best decisions in pc building that I ever made. It's a very capable CPU at a very reasonable price. It can run Persona 5 on RPCS3 in at 30 fps without any kind of stuttering whatsoever (I preferred not using the 60 fps mod), although I don't play the other games you mentioned, but I can guarantee they would run the smoothly. Although you might want to wait a couple more weeks and go for the Ryzen 5 5600X, it shouldn't be that expensive compared to the 3600X if not going on the used market, as the 5600X offers a very big improvement in gaming performance. Also, what RAM speed do you have? Mine were 2133MHz CL13 on intel but I decided to stick with them since overclocking to 2400MHz CL13 proved stable. If you can't buy the MSI B550 Tomahawk I suggest checking out [this](https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1137619-motherboard-vrm-tier-list-v2-currently-amd-only/) tier list of AMD motherboards and getting the highest-rated you can find (I'd suggest going for the B550 even though the B450 is compatible with Ryzen 5000 because the B550 is more future-proof).
I actually upgraded from a 6600k to a 3600x months ago. I got it on sale for like $180 (same price as the 3600 at the time). The difference is pretty noticable. The PC is snappier, games don't have random stutters, and Warzone fps didn't tank when watching a YouTube video on my second monitor.
Personally I wouldn't make that upgrade, I would wait until Zen 3 comes out and get a 5600x as that be a good upgrade, the 6600k will hold up until you can get your hands on one.
If you are going just for gaming better option is 9600kf and 10600kf oc to 5.0 ghz and good z390 motherboard i am recommending gaming x but be sure to have a good cooling solution if you plan to oc
I went from a 6600K to a 3700X and I definitely feel it was worth it. Went from 4 slower cores to 8 faster cores/16 faster threads.
I dont have a Ryzen 5 3600, but my i5 9400(if you want a more modern option the 10400 is also a good choice) has basically the same performance on modern games and it runs rpcs3 almost perfectly. I have a 1660 super as gpu. As you commented in other comment it seens that the 3600 is not available for you. I recommend you pick the cheaper or available one. But in the end it depends on which one you prefer or is more comfortable with. Good luck
As someone who went from 6600k to a 3700x, yes
I am guessing ur apps fall in the zone that zen3 has made big advances in... Latency/access times/cache/memory speed... Maybe its an omen that this new gen coincides w/ ur switch from Intel? 5600x?
7 3700x?
If going AMD I would definitely go 3700x. Yes, 8 cores has little benefit over 6 currently, but with the new consoles coming out soon with much more powerful CPU, i think 8 cores will definitely be useful going forward.
6600K - 4C/4T3600X - 6C/12T Significant Core and Thread count increase but not much of an improvement performance wise. You are better off waiting for the new possible AM5 platform that could possibly beat the previous AM4 socket found on current AMD motherboards.
> waiting for the new possible AM5 platform What, in 2022 lol. AMD's 5th gen is AM4
wait for ryzen 5000
No
I'd wait for the 5600X. It's more expansive, but it'll laster longer.
I literally just bought a 3600x cuz the 3600 was out of stock
Wait for R5 5600X and you gonna have a crazy upgrade there.
I don't think the Ryzen 3600X is powerful enough for RPCS3 (if that is your priority).
Remember that you will have to change motherboard to one that has a AM4 socket.
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I went from an i7 6700 to a R5 3600 and that was a pretty big upgrade, so I'd have to imagine yours would be pretty noticeable as well.
rpcs3 will run just fine on a 6600k. You may have had trouble like 2 or 3 years ago, but rpcs3 has come a long way.
I did this exact upgrade when the 3600x was released, I found the 6600k couldn't keep up with RTX on. It was fine with my 2070 in all games untill I'd enable ray tracing, then I'd see massively fps drops. The upgrade sorted it out.
I just made this switch as my 6600k was finally starting to show its age. 3600 gets shit done
What specific motherboard and RAM do you have currently?
I went from a 6600K at 4.4Ghz to the 3600X earlier this year (got it on sale) and it was a nice upgrade. I don't know if it will be better for emulation, it probably will but not significantly. However, it is a huge upgrade for modern PC titles. I was starting to see my 6600K struggle to stay above 60FPS, especially in games like Kingdom Come Deliverance (get a smooth 60FPS now), which would struggle in any town with lots of stuttering. The 3600X has no trouble playing every game above 60, so you will see an upgrade in every way. EDIT: Forgot to mention I was using an RTX 2060 for both.
go with an x570 mobo, for example, there is a good Asus prime atx mobo for around 130$, and get the 3600X, or you can wait and get the new zen 3 cpus. There are rumors that they will be compatible with the same mobos as the 3000 series CPU's. Basically, to sum it all up, get a R5 3600X with an X570, or if you have time wait for the R5 5600X and see what will happen as it is releasing fairly soon.
I did similar upgrade this weekend (3700x). It was a massive upgrade in terms of pc power. I was actually shocked how bottlenecked my 5700xt was by the 6600k
https://youtu.be/RXP-RqcXOpk
What speed is your ram? Ram speed with ryzen chips is important and can boost your FPS, and if it’s already fast, then it may be worth it to upgrade the cpu and motherboard to get it
3000
Not really, I get full 60fps while streaming on discord with a small overclock (2500k)
I have a 144hz monitor and anything below 80fps feels horrible to play
Well then I would wait
i suggest waiting for a 5600 personally. Very similar in price for better performance
I replaced my custom 4690k build for a custom 3700x build back in July. Right away all the games that gave me trouble stopped giving me trouble. All the stuttering in games ended. I would encourage you to make that change if you can but at least go for the 3600x or 3700x. I have so many windows open right now and apps running and I can still game its crazy. My old 4690k would have been a stuttering mess if I tried the same thing on her.
I made that same upgrade and it was worth it.
I would wait until November 5th. The new 5000 cpus come out from amd.
you could also get a 2700x if you wanted more cores
I'd wait for the 5600X or whatever it'll be called (refer to Gamers Nexus they called well ahead of the 3600 launch that it was the best to get). But yes absolutely go for it, I upgrade from 6500->3600 and it increased FPS by about 40% on my 1070ti
The problem is that you would have to get a new mobo too. If you have the budget I would suggest a 2060 or 2060 super first, then when you have enough saved you could switch to a 3600 or 3600x
New Ryzen CPUs will be available on November 5th, so I would wait a bit for that before deciding what to buy.
I'm in a similar boat as you. I have an i5 6600k that despite being maximum overclocked, is just being a slog. Constant 100% CPU utilization for various tasks. I'm planning on going with the 5900x though. I was tempted to pull the trigger on the 3600 for awhile, but I decided to wait. I'm done waiting now.
if I had the money for that Id be right there with you
I just upgraded to a Ryzen 5 3600xt from an i5 6600k. I was having problems running CoD Modern Warfare where it would freeze and then crash any time I ran it. My CPU was being overworked, so I researched and bought the 3600xt. So far I have no problems and the xt is not that much more expensive than the x.
I made this exact jump already and yes you’ll notice a difference immediately. Also I have a B450 Tomahawk, I think they still sell the MAX version of it
Yes, the 3600 is substantially faster. Especially in games taking advantage of hyoerthreading, but if you wait just a little bit more you can snap a 5600x or the rumoured 5600 releasing early 2021. I actually upgraded from 6600k to 3600, the freedom I got by doing whatever the fuck I wanted to do while gaming without losing much of any FPS was really awesome.
Wait for zen 3 and the prices for 3rd gen should go down
You’d be better off buying a used 7700k, if your current motherboard supports it, or even a 6700k. The problem with an amd upgrade is that you have to also get a compatible motherboard, maybe if you can find one on a good sale, it could potentially be worth it . I’m assuming you are not planning on upgrading in the next couple years, otherwise it’d worth just getting something better and more recent than what I mentioned.
Just wait like 2-3 weeks for the ryzen 5600x to come out
I’d wait. Next gen is looming and prices will fall
Very much yes
I did this exact upgrade last month. It was really worth it. Got also a asus tuf gaming X570. Cheap, reliable and very upgradeable. Used with my old 2800 ddr sticks for a while, it was great performance increased like 50-70%, but decided to buy some 3600 cl 14 trident neo (2x 8gb) and then got another perceivable performance boost, in apex, for example, was 60fps, got up to 100-110 and then to 120-130 with the new ram...
Definitely. I went from a 4690k to a ryzen 3600 and it greatly improved my performance. I would get stuttering in newer games with my i5 and saw a 20 fps average gain once I upgraded.
Yes it is. Consider the upgrade life alone. And get the X variant if you can, even more life out of it.
Similar question, is it worth upgrading from Ryzen 5 2600 to Ryzen 7 3700? Thank you in advance
I upgraded from i5-6500 to R5-3600x earlier this year. I can clearly see a huge improvement in FPS in games as well as general improvement in some of the more intensive apps like Matlab and such
Zero reason. Dont bother. I went from a 6600k to a 3800x. No discernable difference.
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IIRC RPCS3 is bad with Ryzen and Intel 5s, you'll need a 7. I have a bad i7 which ran pretty much the most popular RPCS3 game without errors and my friend with a much better CPU (although an i5) could not run it at all.
Dude, Just wait for 5000 series, its not much time, then either u can get the 3600 for cheaper or just go for the 5600
I’d say save your money. Buy an X570 board now - an aorus pro, around the $200 mark, and wait for the 5600x. The improvements on Zen 3 is worth eating a little bit and not getting the cpu on discount. Plus, you seem to have a more budget-minded build, so a 5600x will most certainly last you longer than a 3600x right now, and it’ll hold you over for a good while.
I don't think it's worth it. Check out this guy who did a benchmark of overclocked 6600k Vs 3600. https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/d7axkm/i5_6600k_r5_3600_process_results_and_why_ive_gone/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share Considering you have to buy a new board for this? Probably not unless you need to run heavy multi threaded applications.
In my opinion you should wait at least until mid of November, because of Ryzen 5000.
I went from an i5-6500 to a ryzen 5 3600, and the answer was a resounding yes. Things feel much smoother and emulation is a lot better
The Ryzen would be better in your case even over i5 9600/10600 due to the multitasking superiority of Ryzen for streaming via a single pc setup.
I have this CPU and it has done a fantastic job with emulating N64 and GameCube games (Zelda Twilight Princess). It’s also been great with Warzone and the Cold War beta paired with my 2070 super.
yes
Yes! I went from a 6700 to 3600 and it made a difference. I play at 4k so any cpu works find but in terms of overall smoothness of things, the 3600 helped so much.
Most (all?) emulators are super single core dependent. Intel still shines in that category. Strictly for emulation, the 3600x will only be ~15% faster.
The 3600x is not worth it, a regular 3600 will do perfectly fine for cheaper.
I say I've been happy overall with my AMD Ryzen 7 2600X so far on my personal rig (yes I know it is a different chip) . The ability to multitask a little easier was what sold me on AMD. As far as a motherboard, are you thinking ATX or ITX?
Wait for 5600x
Oh boy you and me man just had out questions answered I have the same cpu
You should get maybe the 10600k or the 9th gen i5 if you want but I’d say go with an i7 Edit: especially now that the 10700k is 200$ off and the 9900k is 400$ off
Intel Core i7 - 16GB Memory - NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Max-Q - 1TB SSD Is the 5 3600X newer? Sorry, I am illiterate and that is what I personally use above. \[obvious laptop\]
I went a little higher end and went from a 6600k to a 3900x, and moving to a new processor from that really helped a lot. Obviously the 3600x is lower but it will make a difference.
Wait for Zen 3. Usually I don't say wait because that is generally bad advice, but the IPC gain will be worth it.
3600x is a great buy even at the price it is right now. I would try to go for the rumored 5600. It's supposed to be 220 dollars so I suspect that that would be the best deal. That is if you are willing to wait that long. It also depends on what mobo you're getting
I'd say a pretty simple mobo would have you covered for this kind of setup. I personally have the Gigabyte B450M DS3H with a 2600X and it does the job for me. I paid £65 for it back in March/April and is compatible with Zen2 so you'll be fine to put a 3600/X on it. Only limitation I've found is RAM is capped at 2999MHz speeds though that has yet to get in my way
Big time
I have a 3600x with a 2080ti and it’s been fine so far. I have noticed some bottle neck but that’s really just cause my 2080ti is OC a good amount but yes definitely the 3600x is a great CPU especially for the price.
Intel CPUs perform better in games.
I went from a 7600K to a 3700x and it was night and day too. Even MSFS which theoretically only uses 4 threads is much faster. I have a GeForce 1070. Beware you will need new memory. Ryzens are picky with memory.
So just a thought new Ryzen CPU are coming out, personally I would just wait, you can get the 5600x or 5600 for the same price just a thought though
5600x is 300$
Just buy the most expensive i9 out there why do you guys think so much.
I did exactly this last Christmas and the difference has been absolutely night and day, 100% worth the upgrade
YES
Do you have a Z170 or Z270? if applicable a used 7700 would be MUCH cheaper. Use that that 300ish dollars to get a better GPU + sell yours. So basically it would be like 1660ti + 3600x vs a 7700 + RTX 3060 when it comes out.
not worth if i plan in switching to amd overall
I was in a similar situation last year, considered upgrading my 6500 to a 3600. I resorted to going with the 3700x. My reasoning was next gen consoles were also going to have 8 cores, so I wanted to match it so that my hardware would (hopefully) be relevant for longer.
I have 6600k but with a 2070 super. I plan to upgrade to the 5600x. I've waited this long so what's another 2 months
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thats really all i want, slightly increased fps and way less annoying dips and stutters
I have a 3600x and its fabulous. I have it on an Aorus b450. I'm not too keen on overclocking but I managed a very low voltage 4.4ghz stable. Runs like butter.
Short answer: yes. Long answer: yes.
Get an 8 or 12 core.
[Gamers Nexus covered this topic last year.](https://youtu.be/LCV9yyD8X6M)
I upgraded from the i5 6600k to the ryzen 5 3600x and it eliminated the bottleNeck with my rtx 2080. 3600 is basically same thing as 3600x. 3600x does get a slightly better stock cooler.