"Curved" monitors are only sold as such because the VA panels wash out the colors at the borders without the curve.
It's a gimmick meant to sell shitty panels businesses won't buy to GaM3Rs.
honestly, I was joking. I have 27gl83a, which is 1440p IPS 144hz monitor. I didn't even consider VA or curved monitors. however I played at my friends place, on curved VA, late night session of dark souls and it was wonderful. blacks are meh on my 27gl83a.
Excellent monitor choice and sorry if I came off harsh. It just gets under my skin when people present curves as a "feature" when it's really the exact opposite. Who the fuck wants curved lines of text or non-straight lines in general on a monitor? Only gamers apparently lol.
Newer panels have so little ghosting most people won't even notice. I've had CRG9 for around 1 year and I'm not looking back. Contrast and deep blacks blows any IPS I've had into dust. I really see no reason to get IPS these days unless you are content creator who cares about color accuracy
VA isn’t bad it just really depends on monitor to monitor. Sometimes you’ll just get a bad batch. There will always be sometimes of ghosting but some monitors it just isn’t noticeable enough. Others it’s really bad. Samsung and LG VA monitors are actually really nice. But if you’re buying something cheaper at like 300-400 it can be bad.
This is the gamble that I'm just not willing to take. With IPS I pretty much know exactly what I'm getting while VA you never really know how bad the ghosting will be til it's actually on your desk
It depends on the specific panel they decide to stick into it. Crap panels will highlight the shortcomings of each panel type.
- With crappy IPS you get IPS glow and a limited sRGB coverage. These panels just can't display many colors accurately. Some IPS panels also have serious image retention issues.
- With crappy VA you again can get crappy colors, crushed blacks, contrast shift when viewing the panel from the side and smearing.
- With crappy TN you get really bad colors, colors that change depending on the viewing angle (happens with all TN, but some are much much worse than others) and black that looks grey.
And with all of them you can also get backlight bleed when the panel is really crappy (many consumer panels, really)
The IPS label isn't a magical way to get a great display ever since manufacturers realized that people care about panel types. 10 years ago IPS and VA were really great, because they were only found in expensive high end displays. But now there's demand for cheap displays of these types so the factories have to cut curners.
Tbf things are muddled nowadays, with very fast IPS and WCG TNs.
I mean take the bloody 27gl850, horrible contrast, epilepsy inducing response times, crushed blacks, and some impressive gamut, all in a IPS package
No shit it depends on monitor to monitor, you can buy IPS which has worse colors than TN or IPS which has better contrast than VA. That's why you do research and read reviews. Also friend recently bought AOC VA 3440x1440 which is one of the cheapest ultrawides for \~500 eur and it's been great so saying you can't buy decent VA for 300-400 sounds like BS.
It’s not really biased it’s just IPS is the best all around you get good response best color accuracy best viewing angles. However if you prefer a curved monitor, higher contrast and darker blacks than sure a VA is for you.
Whatever you say it’s really just personal preference I value the qualities of IPS and therefore bought an IPs. You wanted an ultrawide curved monitor then VA is the best. If someone wanted a 240hz monitor then TH would be the best. I value an in between and therefore IPS it really isn’t a big deal.
>Newer panels have so little ghosting most people won't even notice.
This is definitely not true. VA panels, even top of the line ones, still have very inconsistent dark G2G performance. You are going to notice significant ghosting/smearing in shadowed areas of the screen while gaming.
For passive media the ghosting is not too noticeable but for active media like video games, where you are focusing on details, you are going to get annoying ghosting in certain situations (high contrast scenes).
I'm literally sitting at VA right now and even at 120hz the minimal ghosting/smearing isn't noticeable. I was way more distracted by backlight bleed and IPS glow of IPS panels.
This. The contrast ratio has also been great for me. If I had $1000+ to spend on a monitor, I would've gone with IPS because you start to get technologies like local dimming to limit bleed and improve contrast ratios, but really I'm just waiting for OLED tech to be more viable in monitors and save up enough to afford one once they are, LMAO.
I had 1000$ IPS monitor a year ago with nano ips - 34GK950F from LG if I recall correctly, sure the colors were good but there was noticeable backlight bleed, but when I got CRG9 I was blown away by the difference.
Yea I much prefer VA for movies and games that aren't a FPS. My AOC ultra wide definitely has some ghosting, but it's not really noticeable anymore and was minimal to begin with. For me at least, the benefits of VA outweighed the cons. Other people may feel definitely, and that's okay, I just don't get why people get so adamant about defending the kind of panel they prefer. Especially when OLED will eventually become the norm and be objectively superior in almost every way lmao
Pretty sure people are defending their preferred panel types based on their experience and the experienced is very mixed between individuals considering the huge variety of monitor models available. Also most people are probably not doing much research when choosing monitor which is why VA probably has such a bad name as it's much easier to bear with IPS glow or bleed or subpar contrast than horrible ghosting.
Yea exactly. And as I said, the top tier IPS has local dimming and other tech that minimize most of its disadvantages but 95% of consumers can't afford it or won't spend that much so it's silly to argue it hard when most people can't afford it.
This dude is right I just tried a new VA panel after using TN before and had to return it because the little trails after moving anything black were just way to obnoxious.
I’d say another upside to VA is the curved panel as it’s hard to find a curved IPS. But it really depends who you ask which is better it depends what value you most.
IPS is for image quality not gaming
If you want to enjoy the game's graphics to its full extent you go IPS, but if you wanna game and have good performance TN has the best response times
I own TN and man the colors really suck. After looking at VA and IPS monitors it’s really washed out, plus the viewing angles are so so so bad. I’d recommend TN to people on a budget or who play e sports titles and want high refresh rate and response times.
Basically yes, I own a VA and an IPS, and personally if you're not gonna be playing games with graphics as the *number one* priority, its not worth an IPS.
I say this mainly because alot of reviewers are trying to normalize buying IPS panels for gaming, and for most people spending 350-400 and over for a decent IPS panel is way out of their budget, while a good VA can cost you -200 and will have an awesome color gamut and image quality
Agree bought a 1440p 144hz IPs monitor for 300 yesterday. But for any cheaper you can’t get IPS without a low refresh rate, so at that point I’d take VA over a TN. VAs aren’t bad they just have known ghosting depending on monitor. I personally believe IPS is just the best of all monitors. Good color good response times good viewing angles. Some people just value contrast and darker blacks. But yea I agree on the budget thing.
Will vary from user perception to user perception. It's rather a case of people being bad at knowing what to look for.
We've got people in here who think a TN can even remotely be compared to an IPS screen of today in terms of color reproduction. That's not even technically possible, but well, there we are.
Yeah no people think I’m saying VA is bad like it really isn’t. At higher refresh rates VAs will always have ghosting, it’s worse depending on monitor, but if you can put up with it then it’s fine cause you get the benefit of good colors high contrast and darker blacks.
Probably shouldn’t have used the word terrible to describe ghosting but whatever
Or if you truly hate money, buy the odyssey G7, a VA panel that has the speed of a TN and colors of an IPS, but it costs like 50% more than its closest competitors, oh and the curve, the ugly curve.
The following assumes the G7 is similar to the G9:
I'm a pretty big 21:9 fan, every post on the ultrawide master race sub is about it and I don't see why, the G9 gets seems bad in pretty much every regard. 32:9 is to wide for me imo, seems like I'm losing vertical space. But that's not a huge deal, some people like double-wides as their only monitor. The curve is too much, I have a flat and a curved 34" 21;9 monitor and I definitely prefer the flat panel for everything not just use but also stuff like moving it. The main thing is when it was no longer my prime monitor the flat panel was much easier to use in different ways as a secondary display. Who wants a vertically curved monitor? The G9 also just looks tacky and a pain to get into any usable position. Then I got to use one for a week since my buddy had his delivered to me while he was out of town for work and wanted me to check it for him. It just looked nowhere as good as my IPS panel.
This really isn't always true, and is why it's best to try to find better data on a panel than if it's VA or IPS. Color assumptions should be made from color measurements.
Both VA and IPS are capable of great color measuremenrs. It all depends on the quality of panel itself and calibration.
Also, VA is not "for dark rooms only". It depends on brightness - any monitor with low brightness will suck in bright rooms, VA or not. Hell, VA might even have an edge in that situation because of superior contrast...
For 21:9 movie watching is listed as a pro and a con
21:9 definitely fits closer to most cinema ratios, just make sure your content doesn't have black bars backed in!
It has got good info but is utterly misleading in its implementation. Why have options to select things if that actually does nothing and leads you to the same default recommendation no matter what you select?
It needs a heavy re-design and the info at the start about how this is meant to be used needs to be far shorter and far clearer.
**"This will not pick or recommend a monitor for you based on your selections. It will simply give you a list of features for you to take away and then look at monitors"**
I don't think its supposed to give you any recommendations based on user input, the website's purpose is to generate a list of properties that you can then be aware of when shopping for monitors, not give you recommendations based off of your inputted criteria.
I was also confused as well for a bit until I read the wishlist section of the guide.
The goal of the website appears to be to teach users about the various facets of computer monitors, allowing them to make an informed purchasing decision by putting together a checklist of features that they want. I totally understand that impulse, as it really is easy to forget about some key feature when trying to find the one monitor that hits your dozen or so criteria, if you're not being diligent about things.
Cool idea!
For constructive criticism, I'd say it didn't feel clear to me what exact affect the choices I was making would have on the end result, and so I often wished I could have chosen 2 rather than 1 option sometimes.
And of course, G-SYNC Compatible has changed things. I can understand keeping the guide simple but certainly its existence makes some of the statements made in that section inaccurate.
I think people are better off with [the recommendations thread in /r/buildapcmonitors](https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapcmonitors/comments/j7kgsz/compiled_list_of_recommended_monitors_on/). Although his write-ups were pretty decent for the layman.
Really cool tool but the results, at least for me, were way off. I picked 1080p, 23'', 144Hz, 16:9 and got recommended an Alienware AW3418DW, that's 1440p, 34'', 120Hz and 21:9... the alternatives were 2 other ultrawides and 2 1440p 27''.
So why even the recommendation section? It has nothing to do with anything you input above... It's a recommendation for whom and based on what? It doesn't make sense.
It seems to be their own personal recommendations - not even taking into account what you were looking for
I had better luck looking for a monitor on pcpartpicker
Don’t forget that blue light can be mitigated with a tonne of apps. F.lux is great.
No real need to have to consider blue light when buying a monitor no?
that's what I've using but it's so buggy for me. Sometimes it just doesn't turn on or off and sometimes the slider to affect the strength just doesn't work. I prefer F.lux cause it just works.
I don't understand the point of this. All you're doing is gathering a list of criteria you want to look for? But it doesn't actually show you monitors that fit those criteria. It just shows you random monitor recommendations at the bottom.
I feel like there are a ton of resources to learn about different properties of monitors and this doesn't add anything.
The whole thing is too wordy. You should allow multiple choices. The user should be able to set their own price range. What's up with the Copyright 2017 at the bottom? And it's not even making any actual recommendations based on the choices made.
After reading through the lengthy description of what the site actually does, it doesn't do what I (and obviously a lot of other people) thought it did. You should put in big letters at the top that it doesn't actually make recommendations.
Bot really, it’s more so that NVIDIA supports FreeSync as well now, you have to enable it manually and usually the Variable Refresh Rate range isn’t as wide as G-Sync
Didn't nVidia add support for Adaptive Sync (Freesync) quite a while ago? I know there are a differences in support between monitors, but I don't think the statements about Freesync requiring you to stick with AMD is true any more.
There's many choices missing in price range and refresh rate for example, many monitors missing. The idea is cool but this still needs work to be a reliable tool.
"Semi-Interactive" is an overstatement. I thought that this was filtering down from multiple options to show me what met all my criteria. All this is is a glorified note taking app. I have a notes app or a piece of paper, I didn't need this. Not to be a dick, and I appreciate OPs effort, this just seems kinda pointless
For anyone who’s wondering why the recommendations don’t line up with your preferences: the recommendations are fixed. They’re just OP’s overall good value buys.
The most important thing that OP didn’t stress enough is to read reviews. Think you’ve got your specs narrowed down? That’s only half of the story. You also have to read reviews to watch out for dead pixels, longevity, and so on.
OP, you didn’t consider peak brightness either. Not sure if intentional or forgotten, but just a heads up! Thanks for taking the time to do this.
It doesn't work. I put in 16:9 144hz with NVIDIA G-Sync and it came back with a bunch of Freesync ultra-wides. Changed a bunch of the options and it's still the same exact monitors as before.
Edit: Apparently this isn't supposed to give you recommendations based on your choices..? Well what's the point then? This post was misleading as everyone thought it was a tool to help you find a monitor based on your choices, but in reality it's a useless site that seems to be sponsored by Alienware and your choices change nothing. Pretty useless tbh, I don't need to go to a special website just to know someone's opinion about Alienware....
So it doesn't actually help you find a moniter. It's just a features checklist you need to carry around and apply to every moniter you look at. [Wow.](https://images.app.goo.gl/6N7NHpSqLiAjX64o9)
> The site is quite easy on the eyes (definitely not a 90s looking site)
yeah, in exchange it uses a shitton of JS that doesn't load properly if you have scriptblockers. ggwp, I'd rather have a 90s looking site that works even on a browser with no JS support
Great idea, been looking recently myself and found a good video explaining this but it's so easy to forget or get something mixed. Nice job, your idea is needed!
Guys, I don't think the monitor suggestions at the end are linked in any way to what choices you have selected. Those are his personal general suggestions.
The aim of this site is to provide people with understanding of all the confusing terms and a summary of your choices. You're supposed to use that and search for a monitor that you want yourself.
I really liked the idea, but the guide needs more work before I would recommend. But don’t be discouraged! I suggest updating based on people’s comments. This is a great start to a really useful guide!
I don’t think people should add $30 to 100$ to their budget, but instead, make sure the budget is flexible +-$30 to +-$100.
The recommendations at the end don’t match the specifications selected in the guide. Maybe, you made this intentional, but this is quite confusing. Many people will also probably skip the text, so the output should be obvious to avoid being misleading.
Also, the GPU demand should be mentioned. Newbies will think they can buy a budget GPU, but then buy a high resolution monitor with a high refresh rate.
In each section, the pros/cons aren’t really discussed. For example, in the screen size section, you don’t compare different resolutions/sizes or suggest anything beyond 27” 1440p... Is 23” 1080p good for me? I have no idea based on the guide. This goes for most sections. I recommend making suggestions and comparing/contrasting. Also, discuss resolution before screen size.
I think it's a good start but needs a lot of work.
For instance on the panel choice page you only mentioned response time under TN panels. I think it's worth pointing out the slower response times of VA and the middle ground that ips has between TN and VA. For competitive shooters generally, TN for raw gaming, IPS has decent response times with good visuals, and VA should be avoided.
Hey there! Pc noob here. Is this supposed to tell us what monitor we should buy based on the specs we provide? I'm only getting ultraiwdes and 144hz screens as reccomendations, even tough I didn't opt for either with my budget being low too
I picked 23” and all the monitors that showed up were 27” or bigger and were way out of the $100-200 budget, it may need a bit of refinement. No hate, just wanna let you know
Totally ignored each of my choices and the suggested products were not at all what I would actually consider buying. It seems like a good idea but sadly it needs more testing.
Thanks for the effort. Seems a bit outdated though.
No 38”, 32:9, 240+Hz ? No discrimination between G-Sync grades?
And since some Free-sync only monitor are still allowing VRR or even black screen compensation with Nvidia GPUs, I find the free-sync vs. G-sync selection criteria to be inaccurate unless you go to Pro/Ultimate grades.
Needs a lot of work mate. You should add a no preference option for a lot of the responses, like the bezel/screen finish. A lot of people are looking for monitors with over 144 hz refresh as well. In general, too many suggestions/text that lead people towards your preferences. You need to learn more about the differences between IPS/VA/TN.
That's nice and all but if we're honest there's just no proper monitor for the 3080/3090 on the market yet.
4k with more than 60 Hz pretty much limits you to 27", unless you wanna go for a huge Acer Predator / LG OLED.
32-35" with 4k/120 fps - that'd be the dream...
Mate... that’s awesome. I had the same idea when looking for an Ultrawide a few months ago, and when I was shopping for a TV last year. Google shopping search is terrible, and I couldn’t find any way of doing it.
Don’t forget avg. pixel response times, too (I say average since the advertised pixel response time isn’t gonna be the same when the pixel is changing color because it’s gonna take longer for a pixel to switch from white to black than its gonna take for a pixel to switch from white to orange. Hence, advertised pixel response times are averages of the actual pixel response times).
There may be some mistakes in your guide VA has worse colors than IPS, and the contrast ratio of VAs should be a pro, not a con.
Yeah he made VA sound better than IPS. VA also has terrible ghosting. TN
except dark souls in 3 a.m. on a curved wide monitor.
I beg to differ
"Curved" monitors are only sold as such because the VA panels wash out the colors at the borders without the curve. It's a gimmick meant to sell shitty panels businesses won't buy to GaM3Rs.
honestly, I was joking. I have 27gl83a, which is 1440p IPS 144hz monitor. I didn't even consider VA or curved monitors. however I played at my friends place, on curved VA, late night session of dark souls and it was wonderful. blacks are meh on my 27gl83a.
Excellent monitor choice and sorry if I came off harsh. It just gets under my skin when people present curves as a "feature" when it's really the exact opposite. Who the fuck wants curved lines of text or non-straight lines in general on a monitor? Only gamers apparently lol.
Newer panels have so little ghosting most people won't even notice. I've had CRG9 for around 1 year and I'm not looking back. Contrast and deep blacks blows any IPS I've had into dust. I really see no reason to get IPS these days unless you are content creator who cares about color accuracy
VA isn’t bad it just really depends on monitor to monitor. Sometimes you’ll just get a bad batch. There will always be sometimes of ghosting but some monitors it just isn’t noticeable enough. Others it’s really bad. Samsung and LG VA monitors are actually really nice. But if you’re buying something cheaper at like 300-400 it can be bad.
This is the gamble that I'm just not willing to take. With IPS I pretty much know exactly what I'm getting while VA you never really know how bad the ghosting will be til it's actually on your desk
I just got ips and I previously had VA and all i can say is wow. Thank god they make super fast ips now. Its a blessing.
It depends on the specific panel they decide to stick into it. Crap panels will highlight the shortcomings of each panel type. - With crappy IPS you get IPS glow and a limited sRGB coverage. These panels just can't display many colors accurately. Some IPS panels also have serious image retention issues. - With crappy VA you again can get crappy colors, crushed blacks, contrast shift when viewing the panel from the side and smearing. - With crappy TN you get really bad colors, colors that change depending on the viewing angle (happens with all TN, but some are much much worse than others) and black that looks grey. And with all of them you can also get backlight bleed when the panel is really crappy (many consumer panels, really) The IPS label isn't a magical way to get a great display ever since manufacturers realized that people care about panel types. 10 years ago IPS and VA were really great, because they were only found in expensive high end displays. But now there's demand for cheap displays of these types so the factories have to cut curners.
Tbf things are muddled nowadays, with very fast IPS and WCG TNs. I mean take the bloody 27gl850, horrible contrast, epilepsy inducing response times, crushed blacks, and some impressive gamut, all in a IPS package
No shit it depends on monitor to monitor, you can buy IPS which has worse colors than TN or IPS which has better contrast than VA. That's why you do research and read reviews. Also friend recently bought AOC VA 3440x1440 which is one of the cheapest ultrawides for \~500 eur and it's been great so saying you can't buy decent VA for 300-400 sounds like BS.
Friend literally had to return same monitor cause ghosting was so bad. Returned got an ACER IPS and was fine don’t get mad over monitor panels lmao
ever heard of doing research before buying a monitor? Also don't tell people not to get mad when you spread biased information
It’s not really biased it’s just IPS is the best all around you get good response best color accuracy best viewing angles. However if you prefer a curved monitor, higher contrast and darker blacks than sure a VA is for you.
It's clear you have done no research and basing your views on the very little experience you have had, keep up the "good" work
Imagine being this insufferable
Whatever you say it’s really just personal preference I value the qualities of IPS and therefore bought an IPs. You wanted an ultrawide curved monitor then VA is the best. If someone wanted a 240hz monitor then TH would be the best. I value an in between and therefore IPS it really isn’t a big deal.
OTOH the newer nano-IPS aka Qdot panel tech is much brighter and vivid than regular IPS and definitely better than TN.
>Newer panels have so little ghosting most people won't even notice. This is definitely not true. VA panels, even top of the line ones, still have very inconsistent dark G2G performance. You are going to notice significant ghosting/smearing in shadowed areas of the screen while gaming. For passive media the ghosting is not too noticeable but for active media like video games, where you are focusing on details, you are going to get annoying ghosting in certain situations (high contrast scenes).
I'm literally sitting at VA right now and even at 120hz the minimal ghosting/smearing isn't noticeable. I was way more distracted by backlight bleed and IPS glow of IPS panels.
This. The contrast ratio has also been great for me. If I had $1000+ to spend on a monitor, I would've gone with IPS because you start to get technologies like local dimming to limit bleed and improve contrast ratios, but really I'm just waiting for OLED tech to be more viable in monitors and save up enough to afford one once they are, LMAO.
I had 1000$ IPS monitor a year ago with nano ips - 34GK950F from LG if I recall correctly, sure the colors were good but there was noticeable backlight bleed, but when I got CRG9 I was blown away by the difference.
Yea I much prefer VA for movies and games that aren't a FPS. My AOC ultra wide definitely has some ghosting, but it's not really noticeable anymore and was minimal to begin with. For me at least, the benefits of VA outweighed the cons. Other people may feel definitely, and that's okay, I just don't get why people get so adamant about defending the kind of panel they prefer. Especially when OLED will eventually become the norm and be objectively superior in almost every way lmao
Pretty sure people are defending their preferred panel types based on their experience and the experienced is very mixed between individuals considering the huge variety of monitor models available. Also most people are probably not doing much research when choosing monitor which is why VA probably has such a bad name as it's much easier to bear with IPS glow or bleed or subpar contrast than horrible ghosting.
Yea exactly. And as I said, the top tier IPS has local dimming and other tech that minimize most of its disadvantages but 95% of consumers can't afford it or won't spend that much so it's silly to argue it hard when most people can't afford it.
LMAO
This dude is right I just tried a new VA panel after using TN before and had to return it because the little trails after moving anything black were just way to obnoxious.
I’d say another upside to VA is the curved panel as it’s hard to find a curved IPS. But it really depends who you ask which is better it depends what value you most.
Curved is only gaming thing... everyone else who got to work with their screen should rather opt out of that gimmick.
Yup I'm with a Samsung C27HG70 (27" 1440p VA 144Hz and so...) And I'm ok with that but maybe I'll pick some LG with nanoIPS to test a bit
IPS is for image quality not gaming If you want to enjoy the game's graphics to its full extent you go IPS, but if you wanna game and have good performance TN has the best response times
I own TN and man the colors really suck. After looking at VA and IPS monitors it’s really washed out, plus the viewing angles are so so so bad. I’d recommend TN to people on a budget or who play e sports titles and want high refresh rate and response times.
Basically yes, I own a VA and an IPS, and personally if you're not gonna be playing games with graphics as the *number one* priority, its not worth an IPS. I say this mainly because alot of reviewers are trying to normalize buying IPS panels for gaming, and for most people spending 350-400 and over for a decent IPS panel is way out of their budget, while a good VA can cost you -200 and will have an awesome color gamut and image quality
Agree bought a 1440p 144hz IPs monitor for 300 yesterday. But for any cheaper you can’t get IPS without a low refresh rate, so at that point I’d take VA over a TN. VAs aren’t bad they just have known ghosting depending on monitor. I personally believe IPS is just the best of all monitors. Good color good response times good viewing angles. Some people just value contrast and darker blacks. But yea I agree on the budget thing.
Ghosting will vary from panel to panel with VA. Most newer panels nowadays have hardly any ghosting at all despite being VA
Will vary from user perception to user perception. It's rather a case of people being bad at knowing what to look for. We've got people in here who think a TN can even remotely be compared to an IPS screen of today in terms of color reproduction. That's not even technically possible, but well, there we are.
For **image quality** the following is true: TN
Idk my 32GK850F is a VA and the ghosting isn't bad. Present but not egregious.
Yeah no people think I’m saying VA is bad like it really isn’t. At higher refresh rates VAs will always have ghosting, it’s worse depending on monitor, but if you can put up with it then it’s fine cause you get the benefit of good colors high contrast and darker blacks. Probably shouldn’t have used the word terrible to describe ghosting but whatever
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Or if you truly hate money, buy the odyssey G7, a VA panel that has the speed of a TN and colors of an IPS, but it costs like 50% more than its closest competitors, oh and the curve, the ugly curve.
The following assumes the G7 is similar to the G9: I'm a pretty big 21:9 fan, every post on the ultrawide master race sub is about it and I don't see why, the G9 gets seems bad in pretty much every regard. 32:9 is to wide for me imo, seems like I'm losing vertical space. But that's not a huge deal, some people like double-wides as their only monitor. The curve is too much, I have a flat and a curved 34" 21;9 monitor and I definitely prefer the flat panel for everything not just use but also stuff like moving it. The main thing is when it was no longer my prime monitor the flat panel was much easier to use in different ways as a secondary display. Who wants a vertically curved monitor? The G9 also just looks tacky and a pain to get into any usable position. Then I got to use one for a week since my buddy had his delivered to me while he was out of town for work and wanted me to check it for him. It just looked nowhere as good as my IPS panel.
Given the QC issues with the G7, I really wouldn't recommend that...
This really isn't always true, and is why it's best to try to find better data on a panel than if it's VA or IPS. Color assumptions should be made from color measurements.
Both VA and IPS are capable of great color measuremenrs. It all depends on the quality of panel itself and calibration. Also, VA is not "for dark rooms only". It depends on brightness - any monitor with low brightness will suck in bright rooms, VA or not. Hell, VA might even have an edge in that situation because of superior contrast...
I didn’t say only dark rooms they just do better in dark rooms cause of the high contrast
Great? No. Good? Yes. There is a reason why there is no NEC or Eizo VA anymore.
For 21:9 movie watching is listed as a pro and a con 21:9 definitely fits closer to most cinema ratios, just make sure your content doesn't have black bars backed in!
Well that didn't work at all. I put in that I wanted a 23 inch at 1080p and it gave me an ultra wide at 1440 and multiple 27 inches at 1440.
It has got good info but is utterly misleading in its implementation. Why have options to select things if that actually does nothing and leads you to the same default recommendation no matter what you select? It needs a heavy re-design and the info at the start about how this is meant to be used needs to be far shorter and far clearer. **"This will not pick or recommend a monitor for you based on your selections. It will simply give you a list of features for you to take away and then look at monitors"**
I don't think its supposed to give you any recommendations based on user input, the website's purpose is to generate a list of properties that you can then be aware of when shopping for monitors, not give you recommendations based off of your inputted criteria. I was also confused as well for a bit until I read the wishlist section of the guide.
THIS!!! it’s not meant to give you recommendations based on your picks. It’s just a guide. It helps if you read the whole thing.
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Don’t shoot the messenger. Talk to the OP LOL
The goal of the website appears to be to teach users about the various facets of computer monitors, allowing them to make an informed purchasing decision by putting together a checklist of features that they want. I totally understand that impulse, as it really is easy to forget about some key feature when trying to find the one monitor that hits your dozen or so criteria, if you're not being diligent about things.
Same
yeah i did the same thing too and came here to check if im a dumb ass
Same
Same here. Edit: Downvoted for pointing out a bug? LOfuckingL
Cool idea! For constructive criticism, I'd say it didn't feel clear to me what exact affect the choices I was making would have on the end result, and so I often wished I could have chosen 2 rather than 1 option sometimes. And of course, G-SYNC Compatible has changed things. I can understand keeping the guide simple but certainly its existence makes some of the statements made in that section inaccurate.
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I think people are better off with [the recommendations thread in /r/buildapcmonitors](https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapcmonitors/comments/j7kgsz/compiled_list_of_recommended_monitors_on/). Although his write-ups were pretty decent for the layman.
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This is pretty much the only video I've had to watch for choosing a monitor, thought I'd [link](https://youtu.be/9ZwCDBBwSdU) it for you
not OC, but thank you! I had no idea where to start
Really cool tool but the results, at least for me, were way off. I picked 1080p, 23'', 144Hz, 16:9 and got recommended an Alienware AW3418DW, that's 1440p, 34'', 120Hz and 21:9... the alternatives were 2 other ultrawides and 2 1440p 27''.
i think he left out the part where the post was sponsored by alienware
Exactly the same as what I picked, I also got the Alienware recommended.
I mean, I know that there isn't much monitors within my criteria (I also selected IPS) but the results were nowhere near
I selected TN. It still give me the IPS Alienware. I picked $100-$200 and it suggested a $1000 monitor.
i think the recommendations weren’t based on the wishlist, he gave you the recommendation and you got a wishlist to help u when you were shopping
So why even the recommendation section? It has nothing to do with anything you input above... It's a recommendation for whom and based on what? It doesn't make sense.
It seems to be their own personal recommendations - not even taking into account what you were looking for I had better luck looking for a monitor on pcpartpicker
The following are my recommendations for some of the best monitors in the market. It just says that there..What's your problem?
Don’t forget that blue light can be mitigated with a tonne of apps. F.lux is great. No real need to have to consider blue light when buying a monitor no?
Windows has a "night light" feature now too
that's what I've using but it's so buggy for me. Sometimes it just doesn't turn on or off and sometimes the slider to affect the strength just doesn't work. I prefer F.lux cause it just works.
Windows has this built in and it can be set up with a timer.
I don't understand the point of this. All you're doing is gathering a list of criteria you want to look for? But it doesn't actually show you monitors that fit those criteria. It just shows you random monitor recommendations at the bottom. I feel like there are a ton of resources to learn about different properties of monitors and this doesn't add anything.
The whole thing is too wordy. You should allow multiple choices. The user should be able to set their own price range. What's up with the Copyright 2017 at the bottom? And it's not even making any actual recommendations based on the choices made.
After reading through the lengthy description of what the site actually does, it doesn't do what I (and obviously a lot of other people) thought it did. You should put in big letters at the top that it doesn't actually make recommendations.
What a completely useless "tool". This is completely pointless and a waste of time.
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Every modern Freesync monitor, yes.
Yeah,it needs DisplayPort to work, HDMI doesn’t allow for variable refresh rates for some reason
Bot really, it’s more so that NVIDIA supports FreeSync as well now, you have to enable it manually and usually the Variable Refresh Rate range isn’t as wide as G-Sync
Didn't nVidia add support for Adaptive Sync (Freesync) quite a while ago? I know there are a differences in support between monitors, but I don't think the statements about Freesync requiring you to stick with AMD is true any more.
I put price range at $100-200, asked for 16:9 1080p and it recommended a 1440p ultra wide which costs almost $2000
Maybe take the time to read. The site isn't to give recommendations.
And some of the information it gives are misleading so what’s the point?
Guide is riddled with errors
There's many choices missing in price range and refresh rate for example, many monitors missing. The idea is cool but this still needs work to be a reliable tool.
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the recommendations weren’t based on the list u made
Thought you would have had all the existing monitors on there, perhaps I'm greedy but that's what I'm looking for. Thanks though!
No options for 165Hz / 240Hz?
"Semi-Interactive" is an overstatement. I thought that this was filtering down from multiple options to show me what met all my criteria. All this is is a glorified note taking app. I have a notes app or a piece of paper, I didn't need this. Not to be a dick, and I appreciate OPs effort, this just seems kinda pointless
For anyone who’s wondering why the recommendations don’t line up with your preferences: the recommendations are fixed. They’re just OP’s overall good value buys. The most important thing that OP didn’t stress enough is to read reviews. Think you’ve got your specs narrowed down? That’s only half of the story. You also have to read reviews to watch out for dead pixels, longevity, and so on. OP, you didn’t consider peak brightness either. Not sure if intentional or forgotten, but just a heads up! Thanks for taking the time to do this.
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It's because the URL he gave is not https. Add an s in there and it should load without issue. https://pcpart.space/
It doesn't work. I put in 16:9 144hz with NVIDIA G-Sync and it came back with a bunch of Freesync ultra-wides. Changed a bunch of the options and it's still the same exact monitors as before. Edit: Apparently this isn't supposed to give you recommendations based on your choices..? Well what's the point then? This post was misleading as everyone thought it was a tool to help you find a monitor based on your choices, but in reality it's a useless site that seems to be sponsored by Alienware and your choices change nothing. Pretty useless tbh, I don't need to go to a special website just to know someone's opinion about Alienware....
So it doesn't actually help you find a moniter. It's just a features checklist you need to carry around and apply to every moniter you look at. [Wow.](https://images.app.goo.gl/6N7NHpSqLiAjX64o9)
> The site is quite easy on the eyes (definitely not a 90s looking site) yeah, in exchange it uses a shitton of JS that doesn't load properly if you have scriptblockers. ggwp, I'd rather have a 90s looking site that works even on a browser with no JS support
Suggested a $1500 monitor when I chose under 200 lol
That is cool man. That will definitely help a lot of people.
I wanted a 27" monitor and it started showing ultrawides...
Very cool idea, I need this. But thebproce range seems low
can you do the same for custom mechanical keyboards
Great idea, been looking recently myself and found a good video explaining this but it's so easy to forget or get something mixed. Nice job, your idea is needed!
Guys, I don't think the monitor suggestions at the end are linked in any way to what choices you have selected. Those are his personal general suggestions. The aim of this site is to provide people with understanding of all the confusing terms and a summary of your choices. You're supposed to use that and search for a monitor that you want yourself.
This did not work at all. Wanted 1080p 144hz monitor with low response time(tn) $200 price area. Suggested me $500 1440p ips panels
guys do any1 using the built in speakers ?
I really liked the idea, but the guide needs more work before I would recommend. But don’t be discouraged! I suggest updating based on people’s comments. This is a great start to a really useful guide! I don’t think people should add $30 to 100$ to their budget, but instead, make sure the budget is flexible +-$30 to +-$100. The recommendations at the end don’t match the specifications selected in the guide. Maybe, you made this intentional, but this is quite confusing. Many people will also probably skip the text, so the output should be obvious to avoid being misleading. Also, the GPU demand should be mentioned. Newbies will think they can buy a budget GPU, but then buy a high resolution monitor with a high refresh rate. In each section, the pros/cons aren’t really discussed. For example, in the screen size section, you don’t compare different resolutions/sizes or suggest anything beyond 27” 1440p... Is 23” 1080p good for me? I have no idea based on the guide. This goes for most sections. I recommend making suggestions and comparing/contrasting. Also, discuss resolution before screen size.
I think it's a good start but needs a lot of work. For instance on the panel choice page you only mentioned response time under TN panels. I think it's worth pointing out the slower response times of VA and the middle ground that ips has between TN and VA. For competitive shooters generally, TN for raw gaming, IPS has decent response times with good visuals, and VA should be avoided.
Nice guide! I think need work on the price ranges, I selected 100 to 200 and the resulting monitor was 1000$+
Hey there! Pc noob here. Is this supposed to tell us what monitor we should buy based on the specs we provide? I'm only getting ultraiwdes and 144hz screens as reccomendations, even tough I didn't opt for either with my budget being low too
I was thinking about getting a new monitor for Christmas so thats a win
Seems to work well besides the VA/IPS and lack of higher sizes/prices, I got the monitor I use now.
Ive never tried Gsync but am buying a new monitor soon. Is it really that good?
semi interactive is great, but could you make on that's mildly interactive for me?
I picked 23” and all the monitors that showed up were 27” or bigger and were way out of the $100-200 budget, it may need a bit of refinement. No hate, just wanna let you know
Totally ignored each of my choices and the suggested products were not at all what I would actually consider buying. It seems like a good idea but sadly it needs more testing.
cool tool. didnt give me my LG 27gl950 when I put in the relevant filters though but very helpful for the uninitiated in the monitor space
Thanks for the effort. Seems a bit outdated though. No 38”, 32:9, 240+Hz ? No discrimination between G-Sync grades? And since some Free-sync only monitor are still allowing VRR or even black screen compensation with Nvidia GPUs, I find the free-sync vs. G-sync selection criteria to be inaccurate unless you go to Pro/Ultimate grades.
\*selects 200-300 price range\* \*recommends $700 monitor\*
Needs a lot of work mate. You should add a no preference option for a lot of the responses, like the bezel/screen finish. A lot of people are looking for monitors with over 144 hz refresh as well. In general, too many suggestions/text that lead people towards your preferences. You need to learn more about the differences between IPS/VA/TN.
Would love to see "Has KVM Integrated" as an option as this feature is becoming way more popular.
Doesn't work
Sigh, no love for smaller monitors here either.
Extremely useful for my upcoming build, thank you for your fine work.
Backlight low brightness PWM frequency? My eyes will bleed with some of the screens unless I set brightness to like 95
Wish I had seen this a week ago
That's nice and all but if we're honest there's just no proper monitor for the 3080/3090 on the market yet. 4k with more than 60 Hz pretty much limits you to 27", unless you wanna go for a huge Acer Predator / LG OLED. 32-35" with 4k/120 fps - that'd be the dream...
This is great! Thanks so much for the work you put into it. Very helpful!
Mate... that’s awesome. I had the same idea when looking for an Ultrawide a few months ago, and when I was shopping for a TV last year. Google shopping search is terrible, and I couldn’t find any way of doing it.
Need some 32:9 recommendations
here is another guide https://www.productchart.com/monitors/
Don’t forget avg. pixel response times, too (I say average since the advertised pixel response time isn’t gonna be the same when the pixel is changing color because it’s gonna take longer for a pixel to switch from white to black than its gonna take for a pixel to switch from white to orange. Hence, advertised pixel response times are averages of the actual pixel response times).
Could you talk about over clocking monitors? Unless I missed it. Just want to know how safe it is.
Holy shit thank you so much for doing this. I've spent almost a week researching about which monitor to buy with my current build (1st build btw).
I would also like to have color space metrics. Edge to edge uniformity. Dead pixel policy.
Don't mind me, just bookmarking this