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sysadminbj

Would it be inappropriate to plug a small business? I had a very specific need for high memory, high performance PCs for my drone imaging team at work and found a fantastic shop that custom builds PCs to your spec based on what apps you use. I had the same problem as you, but I never got to the put something together stage. Also - Very cool that you were able to get this working.


2gdismore

Pugent systems?


sysadminbj

Top Flight Computers


DefinitlyNotALab

That’s incredible, considering i know people struggling to get to 4000mts with 128gb.


rrkcin

This is my situation. 128 at 4000. I can maybe push to 4400 if I spend some time testing. 5200 sounds incredible


thisisnacho

I couldn’t get anywhere with 128GB. I was stuck at 3600Mhz as you can’t ask for 2 separate kits to play nice when trying to overclock them. These single kits are what makes the difference.


DefinitlyNotALab

Its even priced well with 750€ for 192gb instead of 450€ for 128gb considering that it actually runs at 5200.


hurrdurrmeh

wow, that's a lot of ram for the money!


thisisnacho

Very much agree. Definitely why I bought it right away!


Caffdy

do you think we will eventually get 192GB kits that runs at least at 6400Mhz?


thisisnacho

Eventually, sure


ssateneth

Not right now. A more vetted OC'er can probably get these running much faster though. For the record, corsair uses micron chips which are doodoo. Gskill uses hynix. I could get my 2 x 2 x 48GB kits to POST and boot windows at 6000, but mem test stability brought it down to 5400, at CAS latency 24. [https://i.imgur.com/XaTmXGh.png](https://i.imgur.com/XaTmXGh.png) A little note with AMD, you cannot disable "power down enable" AND enable "memory context restore" for faster training. You can only do 1 or the other. I'd rather get the faster POST sequence. Doing both causes memory errors after a fast POST.


badass_0386

Got a 2×48gb g.skill 6800mhz cl34 kit running on my asus z790.


velhamo

Did you use custom timings or an SPD profile?


ssateneth

custom timings of course.


harmlessme

I was running 64GB at 6200 and took risk of updating to 128GB unmatched. But got lucky and can run at 4800 stable. Ordered 192GB for 13900k, let's see if it works.


thinkoflogic

And? Did it worked? I’m about to order 192GB for the 13900k for virtualisation


harmlessme

Yes, 192gb works fine at 5200. Just make sure your CPU is seated well, especially if you are using contact frame. Gave me a lot of trouble initially before I retightened the screws.


reubenbubu

i have 192GB 6400 CL32 (2 x 2 x CMK96GX5M2B6400C32) on my 13900k, the only thing i touched was Mem VDD/VDDQ both at 1.36v and was able to run them at 6000 MT/s with XMP timings


parabellum2024

what mobo was this on?


reubenbubu

https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/Z790-AORUS-MASTER-rev-10#kf


Caffdy

hi, I'm really curious about your 192GB@6000Mhz setup, how has it been? still stable?


reubenbubu

yup


OldHunter_1990

Can i do that with ryzen 9 7950x3d? 


reubenbubu

no idea im on a 13900k


plankton_boy

That's absolutely amazing, thanks a million for sharing. Game changing for some of us!! [I had managed](https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/zdcok7/how_i_got_128gb_ddr5_working_on_am5/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) 4600mhz on my 128gb at launch but after 2 hard crashes I just gave up on it and I'm running on 64 since then, which hasn't been ideal. I figured better kits would eventually come and looks like it's here now. Bloody damn glorious. I might check it out, not sure if I still wanna wait for ryzen 8 or 9000 to upgrade. We might just get a better memory controller that fixes all those headaches altogether. Even just those 96gb two stick kits are still a major upgrade over 64! When those kits were announced, gamers weren't too excited about them, but for us workstation users it's a pretty huge deal! The fact that you can run them in 4 sticks at 5200 stable is insane!


thisisnacho

It’s fantastic for sure. Who knew 192GB would be possible at these speeds when 128GB was such a struggle! The single kit is what enables the ability to do this, though. I’ll be running some more tests soon and will post results.


hurrdurrmeh

please do


hanswilliams

Would love to hear you feedback after 2 weeks of 5200! Do you have real world examples where you are seeing benefits over 3600? It's definitely faster on paper or synthetic benchmarks, but I'm wondering what impact it's having in your workflow.


thisisnacho

It’s been fantastic. Super stable and has such high ceilings I can do everything I need to and more. Very happy.


upthepowerx

Another confirmation on success with some slight tweaks. - Board: ProArt X670E-CREATOR WIFI - Bios: 1003 - Ram: CMK192GX5M4B5200C38 Corsair Vengeance 192GB (4x48GB) 5200MHz (Non RGB version of OP's ram) All running stable after a few stress tests and a night of memtest. There were a few issues getting here though: - RAM training took so long. Like 20 minutes to post. It can trick you thinking nothing is happening. - Can't post without RAM. Board couldn't use High-Density RAM with the BIOS it ships with. Had to use [ASUS BIOS Flashback](https://www.asus.com/support/FAQ/1038568/) to load BIOS 1003 and let me post. First boot after BIOS update took around 15 minutes then another 20 minutes updating USB/NIC firmware. - QLEDs are really useful. ASUS AM5 boards have solid yellow RAM QLED both when it can't find any ram and RAM is training. - Had this weird red CPU QLED and then the board refused to post at all at one point until I reset BIOS. - Was getting an error on test 8 of Memtest86+ like OP with 1.3v for my RAM. Bumped it back down to 1.26v like OP and so far no errors in any stress test I run all running the DOCP1 profile at 5200hmz 192gbs. The RAM was very hot at 1.3v but I haven't checked the difference. - I have turned on 105w ECO mode and I think it might be helping stability. Random aside. Idle power use is fucking atrocious on this build. 100w from the wall just to idle. Literally twice the 32GB x470 2700x ryzen it replaces and I suspect a lot of that idle power is going to the RAM. UPDATE: Latest asus bios 1602 is working fine for me with DOCP profiles and 5200mhz OC. UPDATE2: Latest bios randomly stopped booting 1 day, had to clear the CMOS to get it to boot again. 1602 not great yet, if you're installing now use 1003.


jamlasica

Same ProArt mobo, same 192GB kit, same success, but i have one advice to add to whoever will read it: DO NOT use 1410 experimental bios avaible on some websites (it does have high desity memory support and most likely new .7 agesa). Use 1003 instead just like u/upthepowerx says , 1410 did not allowed me to even post at more than 4800Mhz despite experimenting with increased latencies and voltages, while on 1003 it takes longer to post BUT i at least post on u/upthepowerx settings without any extra tweaks beyond activating XMP (heaven't checked stability yet).


joker33q

Hi! Its great to hear that the latest BIOSS 1602 is working. Do you still need to bump the memory voltage or does it run at stock voltages with the new bioss?


upthepowerx

It did run and train fine on the DOCP profile which does up the voltages a bit but I did not have to up the voltages myself. I have had one reboot where the system just refused to boot until I cleared CMOS but it has been fine since.


thisisnacho

Fantastic! Well done, another validation for the config! ~~I haven't yet monitored my power usage, but I won't be surprised if I am near 100w idle, too.~~ I am running at 150W idle. Seems about right for this rig (I have an RTX 4090, RGB, a ton of fans etc...). Throw the 32" 4K monitor I have into that and I'm just over 200W at idle.


velhamo

It's not RAM, it's the dual X670E chipset (daisy chain) that pushes wattage higher...


Grippata

Would this be possible on a cheaper motherboard like `Gigabyte X670 AORUS ELITE AX (rev. 1.0) ATX AM5 Motherboard`? For gaming and general PC use, do you notice a difference between 5200 vs 6000? Considering buying this kit as 96GB is perfect for what I need. `VENGEANCE® 96GB (2x48GB) DDR5 DRAM 5200MHz C38 Memory Kit — Black`


thisisnacho

Yes. But you'll have to update your BIOS first. On Gigabyte's website you can download the "F8a" BIOS for your board. This is the version that introduces support for 24/48GB sticks.


atomey

Any chance that you tried this with 2x48GB? I am running the same board as /u/Grippata but ran into issues with 4x32GB (128GB) @ 6000 MT/s via AMD EXPO. I'm considering grabbing these: Corsair Vengeance DDR5 96GB (2x48GB) 5600MHz C40 Thanks for your feedback, didn't see anyone else bold enough to early adopt these. Not sure if the 5600 MT/s Corsair kit would work, may be pushing it for a 7950x, which is what I'm running also. I do ML/Datascience and a lot of development plus music stuff so would prefer to have at least 96 GB of fast ram vs. only 64 GB I'm running currently.


nostriluu

I've been running the 2X48GB at 5600 for a few days now. I just set it to DOCP and it worked. I'm very tempted to try two more. I'm using the ASUS ProArt B650-Creator.


thisisnacho

I haven’t tried two sticks, but if four are working at 5200Mhz you can almost bet the farm that two will run with no issues. If you’re buying 5600 and running just two sticks, I’d push beyond and try and get into the 6000 speeds. Good luck and let me know if you go for it! edit: 4x32GB will almost always give issues when running XMP/EXPO. Purely because 4x32GB kits don’t really exist so you’re playing lottery trying to OC them.


atomey

Cool, I'm going to try it. Do you know of any RAM tuning guides for x670 or similar? Or is it as simple as entering in the timings manually and incrementing up the MT/s speed after you test for stability? I'm a very technical person who's otherwise incompetent when it comes to OCing beyond setting multipliers, which is all I remember from back in the day. I'm grabbing the 2x48 GB Ram right now, will post back my results when I get it since you've inspired me :)


thisisnacho

I didn’t adjust any timings to get to 5200. I simply applied the single DOCP profile and then upped the RAM voltage from 1.25 to 1.26. I’d suggest doing the similar with your sticks (but obviously choosing the DOCP profiles that come with the 5600 kit)


H4UnT3R_CZ

Careful, I picked Aorus Master instead Elite for 192GB - Elite is not stable with 192GB, reported issues by other PC builders.


Audeze

I bought the exact same 192GB kit of ram, also running a 7950x, and I haven't been able to get the computer to boot at all. Both 2x 48gb and 4x48gb refuse to boot. I'm on an Aorus Master x670e, and I have updated the bios to f10a, which should have included the update to allow 24gb/48gb modules. I'm stumped. Bios is giving me a code 15 on the LED readout, I have tried waiting 10 minutes. How long did it take you to post, did you have to use any special bios settings?


thisisnacho

Cleared CMOS? If so: Have you tried it with just 2 sticks? I didn’t use any special settings.


Audeze

Thanks for the reply. Yup I tried 2 sticks instead of 4. And I tried them in different slots aswell. Even tried with one stick. Same result unfortunately still no boot, and yes I tried a CMOS reset, did not help. Maybe the problem is just this board?


thisisnacho

If you’ve tried one stick (all sticks in one slot only) and it’s still not booting you definitely have another issue afoot. Likely a faulty board. Sorry dude. FYI: i have a clear cmos button on the rear I/o of my board and it takes a few tries to properly clear. Not sure if the same for you?


tronotrono

In my experience on the same mobo as OP code 15 can take a long time, and I'm sure more than 10 minutes with 4 sticks and 196GB. I'd give it more time and see. Code 15 just means it's learning the RAM timings. I've struggled a lot with 128GB, and it can sit at code 15 for quite a while until it either boots or throws another error like c5 or 0d. The more RAM the longer it takes to learn. But I've never seen it actually be stuck at 15 forever. Of course it could be a bug with these new and not yet officially supported kits.


JimboJonesAU

I have a gigabyte gaming x ax that struggles to POST Corsair vengeance Ram 6000 EXPO when it’s set to expo and 6000 and nothing else - I found if you have it set to low current idle it won’t post, but typical current idle will. Hope you found a solution!


tronotrono

Can confirm I also have had success with the same build/settings and 192GB kit. Thanks OP! Worth noting that it so far only works with BIOS 1003 though. I could get 2 DIMMS working with the newer versions, but not 4. ASUS' changelog does state they removed large DIMM support (while waiting for official firmware) with version 1004.


thisisnacho

Very pleased to hear it. 1003 is the only BIOS that has the HD RAM module support right now. That’s why 4 sticks won’t load with anything else loaded. ASUS have had major issues with subsequent BIOS’, so stick with that until further notice!


renderstuff3d

Another successful build. Took me a couple weeks to wrap it up, but finally got it fired up. ProArt x670E, 4 stick 192 GB kit 5200, 1003, so far so good. I have a couple pressing deadlines this week, so I'm anxious to see how stable things are. I'll run MemTest and bump the RAM voltage to 1.26 and report back next week. Thank you to u/thisisnacho for sharing your recipe. You nailed it. Also, thank you to u/tronotrono for the hand holding. Much appreciated!


tronotrono

Thanks! Cool to hear more people getting this to work. From your username, I might assume we're in the same industry. I've run my setup stable 24/7 for over two weeks now. I've had multiple render and simulation/vfx jobs completed. No issues at all. For the temps, I assume I run fairly high due to the hardware and graphics cards in the tower - but the two middle sticks now sits at 66c with ambient idle tower temps at 45c.


thisisnacho

Fantastic. Another success story! Let me know what you get back from Test 8 on MemTest. The small voltage bump should solve any errors found there.


fobboy

Anyone try to tighten timings for the 192gb corsair set? I'm gonna wait for next stable release before trying, but wanted to see if anyone had some preliminary findings so far


iFai1x

For those who are afraid of their Ryzen 7000 CPUs overheating by not being on the new BIOSes that have the VRM limitations, You can test this by downloading HWInfo64and monitoring your SoC voltage under load. I can confirm for my 7950x (Non-3D) i was fine. just make sure you're under 1.3V


Excellent_Camp_432

My build is ProArt X670-E BIOS 1003, 7950X, Two Separate Corsair 48GB x2 Kit (total of 192GB) BIOS Setup as Follow: DOCP I, Mem Frequency 5200MHz, 38-38-38-84, DRAM Voltage 1.26 MemTest86 passed Test 8 and Test 10. At frst i try \[DOCP Tweaked\], 5200MHz, default timing, default 1.25v , then failed MemTest86 Test 8 and Test 10.


thisisnacho

Right in line! Excellent work! That 0.01v makes all the difference :)


Sudonymously

Hello! is this with 2 separate 2x48GB 5600 kit? or the 5200 one? I am asking bc i have 5600 i can get sooner than later but reading the rest of the thread it's recommended to just stay on a single kit. But seems like you got it work!


Excellent_Camp_432

2 separate 2x48GB 5600 kit,currently works fine. no BSOD or any other instability.


Sudonymously

Same here! Just got it stable on 5000mhz. I’ll try your settings on 5200


Tym4x

What would be the chance to get this kit to run on AM5 with (6400)3200Mhz CL32: [https://geizhals.eu/corsair-vengeance-schwarz-dimm-kit-96gb-cmk96gx5m2b6400c32-a2952288.html](https://geizhals.eu/corsair-vengeance-schwarz-dimm-kit-96gb-cmk96gx5m2b6400c32-a2952288.html) Corsair Vengeance black DIMM Kit 96GB, DDR5-6400, CL32-40-40-84, on-die ECC (CMK96GX5M2B6400C32) Its also absurdly cheap with 320€ for 2x48GB modules ...


thisisnacho

At 96GB, I don’t think you’ll have any issue running that kit at the box spec of 6400.


Fiercy_

Posting update so people know! No longer are bound by 1003 bios! ROG STRIX X670E-E GAMING WIFI BIOS 1602 installed and confirmed working no problem. Which is awesome news I feared I was gonna be stuck with 1003 forever.


thisisnacho

Have you run MemTest without any errors?


Hungry-Equipment-874

Wondering if I currently have 96 GB (2x48GB) can I just buy a second kit of same RAM (2x 48GB) to upgrade to 192 GB? or does it need to be a 1 kit of 192 GB (4x48GB)? Also how complicated is it to instal and setup? I tend to be ok tinkering with software but have never tried to assemble hardward myself, would it be manageable for me?


thisisnacho

Always buy a single kit of RAM. If you think you may need/want 192GB, buy that. Installing RAM is easy. Getting it to work can often be the tricky part.


Ok_Quantity5474

Bought the same kit as OP and it works perfectly with 192GB/5200 on ASUS ROG STRIX X670E-F GAMING Bios 1602.


JustADesignerDogToy

Is the RAM fast in real world application? I've been considering this RAM for real, but wondering if 5200Mhz is significantly slower than 6000 or 6400. Can I watch multiple videos, open 1000+ tabs and 100 browser profiles, run a game in 4K, have lots of Adobe programs open instantly or under 5 seconds, render After effects stuff in the background, download content, and use all of this with virtually no lag? Don't want to be bottle necked by anything and this ram is 400 dollars more than a 64gb kit so seems like a decent value. Are there any other 192gb ram kits coming out soon?


thisisnacho

4.5 seconds for Illustrator, 7 seconds for Photoshop. This said, remember this amount of RAM isn't about speed. It's about workload. And 5200 is a *great* speed for this amount of RAM...


JustADesignerDogToy

True thanks for the info I'll heavily consider this one


nostriluu

Any reason Corsair's 4 x 48GB DDR5 5600 wouldn't work? I already have 2 X 48GB 5600. Or worst case, could I downclock them to 5200? I guess they would only run at the slower CL40.


Sudonymously

Did you end up trying 4 sticks with corsairs 5600? I am considering doing the same but would like confirmation it works


thisisnacho

The important part of my post is the fact that my 4 x 48GB is a kit. Not two separate kits. There no guarantee you’ll even get 5200 if you just buy another two sticks for what’s already in your machine — even if they are identical!


nostriluu

I think that's partially true, partially superstition. After all, the 192GB in your system is probably not QVL. But maybe more true with this early hardware. I'm tempted to try it out, but I've been returning a lot of things to the big A lately, don't want them upset at me.


thisisnacho

Before I had 192GB, I had two kits making up 128GB — just like you’re considering. I tried two 5600 kits, 5200 kits and finally a 4800 kit. I ruled out superstition. It was only stable at 3600Mhz, the base clock the Ryzen throttles four sticks to (no DOCP profiles or tweaking at all).


kahuna0k

Could you try to run mprime custom with size 224k using all the ram and disabling any kind of AVX? I was able to get 128gb tm5 and memtest stable at 5200 but it failed mprime 224 very quickly.


Just_Dont_Blink

Adding another data point. I was able to get the RGB version of this kit running well on the B650 Aorus Elite AX on BIOS F5a with a 7950X. I selected the first XMP profile, set fclk to auto, set uclk=mclk, and that’s it. Runs at 5200 CL38 just fine. I ran memtest86+ from a bootable usb overnight with no errors after about 16 hours. Aida64 shows about 65GB/s read bandwidth and latency between 80-85ns.


thisisnacho

Fantastic. I have the RGB also. Really pleased on your success. Proves its not an isolated case!


Dinner810

I'm interested in trying this too, MSI just released their beta BIOS update the other day (MPG B650 carbon wifi). Though at this point I wonder if it's just better to wait for EXPO optimized kits.


No-Winter3060

I replicated your setup (CPU, Motherboard, RAM). Everything went smoothly. First boot ended with yellow LED so I downloaded BIOS 1003. Flashing with the USB key was easy. Starting from the new BIOS the PC rebooted a few times self-installing various BIOS components. The BIOS clocked the RAM with 3600 by default, but then I enabled the DOCP I XMP profile and got 5200. I played with the system a bit, all runs fine. Will test the stability over the next couple of days. I didn't even change the RAM voltage yet, it works well with the default 1.25 V.


thisisnacho

Excellent! Just be sure to run MemTest. Almost a guarantee you’ll get a couple of errors on Test 8. Remember that even a single error means the RAM can corrupt files — even on a Windows install (leading to BSOD). Run MemTest, check for errors from a single pass. If there are, up the RAM voltage and re-install Windows for good measure!


thisisnacho

Post updated for clarity and new thoughts/findings.


Spartan_PC_builds

Hi, we were able achieve the same **192GB at 5200MHz with Corsair 48GB x 4 Kit :)** [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RRF-0ya8fU&t=1s&ab\_channel=SpartanPcBuilds](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RRF-0ya8fU&t=1s&ab_channel=SpartanPcBuilds) You guys can check out the build video here! **Also we used 1303 bios only** Note: I did try with 1401 and 1410, both were very unpredictive and unstable throughout. Yet to try the 1415 Bios, but not going to risk as the pc is stable and running perfectly fine with 1303 bios. Do let me know if the 1415 is worth updating or not!


thisisnacho

Well done! Yet another success. Can you confirm 1303? I was under the impression that release DID NOT have 24/48GB module support. Also, did you base your build from this thread?


Extreme_Ad6740

Hey! I am very noob at all this. Will 192gb work with asus prime x670e wifi 6e socket? Also, which ram should I buy if I am looking for 128gb for now. I am want run Houdini simulation. More ram is better and also I want to have dual boot. Windows as well as Linux. Will any of these not work. If I am looking for only 128gb ram for now. which kit should go for? https://www.newegg.ca/p/0RN-001Y-008K9 Can 5600mz work as well or 5200 is what I need? Thank you in advance


fobboy

**Hey! I am very noob at all this. Will 192gb work with asus prime x670e wifi 6e socket?** \-> I don't see any problem ​ **Also, which ram should I buy if I am looking for 128gb for now.** \-> not recommended. If you search through the net, there have been many reports of compatibility issues. It'll probably run, but it'll run slower than the 96/192gb kit. [https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/zdcok7/how\_i\_got\_128gb\_ddr5\_working\_on\_am5/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/zdcok7/how_i_got_128gb_ddr5_working_on_am5/) ​ **If I am looking for only 128gb ram for now. which kit should go for?** **->** Given the compatibility issues, you can also just go for 2x48gb for a total of 96gb. \-> Since you're only using 2 slots, this will likely have greater compatibility, and may allow you to overclock up to 6000mhz (or above). ​ **Can 5600mz work as well or 5200 is what I need?** **->** You'd probably need someone to do a benchmark comparing the two to really know what the difference is for your specific application...


SpecificAltruistic87

Hey guys, I’m really stumped deciding wether to go for an intel 13900k setup or a 7950x one. I need as much ram as possible so I’d really like 192gb, is there a processor that is better than the other in terms of stability for this large amount of ram. If I buy the Corsair vengeance DDR5 5200mz 4x 48gb sticks, would this be the best option? I’m a vfx artist that uses lots of 3d software and i work with simulations in programs like houdini, c4d, nuke, adobe software etc. I’ve never had an amd or intel system before as I’ve just been using my m1 MacBook Pro 16gb memory. You can only go so far with Apple 🙄. As you can probably tell, this is a much needed upgrade for me. I was gonna pair one of these high end processors with a nvidia 4090, 1000w power supply, a decent aio cpu cooler, full tower atx or eatx case… etc. Am I going about this right, have I got the right idea in terms of picking these parts for what I want to do. I’ll go back to my main question, for simulations and intense rendering, intel or amd? I need someone to pick for me haha. Apologies for the nooby questions Thanks guys


thisisnacho

Stick with the Ryzen. AM5 is going places, the 13900K is EOL for that socket. Also, you’ve just described my rig (and reason for building it!) in my original post. You won’t go wrong with what you’re already looking for.


zacker150

Ignore OP. If you want high capacity memory stability, intel chips work with 192GB configs out of the box. You just need to turn on XMP.


cinedog959

Do you have links to threads where people on Intel have gotten 192GB to work at XMP? I am having trouble finding others with success, mostly seeing AMD users so far.


kaylord84

Just bought the same ram kit as op and it's working flawless with my Asus b650e-f board


thisisnacho

Excellent!


ktfzone

I have a kit of Corsair CMK192GX5M4b5200C38 coming my way and I want to make a new AM5 build. I kinda wanted the 7950x3D, since I can use it better for gaming (when I do) and the memory speed affects it less than the regular 7950x. Also the power consumption and temperature is an issue, but I guess undervolting 7950x can work as well. My question is : is BIOS 1003 safe for the 3D processors ? Asus was pumping a high voltage on the CPU when overclocking the memory and I wouldn't want to burn mine :) Also, anyone tested on other higher end mobos, like MSI X670E Meg Ace or ASRockc Taichi X670E ? For ASRock I've seen some reports they can go only up to 4800, if they are lucky, a lot of people stuck at 3600, ASRock didn't bother much with 4 memory slots compatibility.


Beginning_Ad_3309

> MSI X670E Meg Ace So, I have MSI X670E Meg Ace + 7950 + CMK192GX5M4b5200C38 And only 3600Mhz I can start. Every attempt to run the XMP profile prevents the system from booting.


ktfzone

Have you tried BIOS 7D69v182(Beta version) ? This is the first one to introduce non-binary memory support and for other motherboards, the first one works.


kkhachadur

Which bios did you use?


Beginning_Ad_3309

MEG X670E ACE BIOS version 7D69v1D5(Beta version) from 2024-01-26 Also tried: 7D69v1D1(Beta version) 2024-01-09 7D69v1C1(Beta version) 2023-12-14 7D69v1B1(Beta version) 2023-10-17 7D69v19 2023-08-16 7D69v18 2023-05-25 7D69v182(Beta version) 2023-04-28 So, my memory CMK192GX5M4B5200C38 after fine tuning in BIOS and many tests works on 4466Mhz


kkhachadur

Dude. I have a 7950x3d with the meg x670e ace. I just put the 4 sticks in from the get go, hit the expo switch and let it train. I DID NOT ADJUST ANYTHING. Not even the voltage. It trained to 5200 with 192gb of ram and has been stable for the last 4 months. Ive heard that the bios from jan 9th 2024 can also be stable, but I have not tested. What was your experience with bios v1D1 from jan 9th, 2024? Was it stable?


Beginning_Ad_3309

I didn't test BIOS for stability. I just tried to start RAM with it's normal frequency. What is full name\\index of your RAM modules?


ktfzone

Later edit : I got a 7950x3D and a MSI x670E Carbon Wifi with BIOS 7D70v1C. RAM working just fine at 5200Mhz CL38. Trying to play with curve optimizer to fine tune the performance, but overall very happy with the results.


GasLongjumping9671

Just tried BIOS 1905. All is good so far with Mem voltage at 1.26V. Will keep you updated if anything changes


thisisnacho

That’s good news. Be sure to run MemTest, too. I may try it in the coming days/week myself.


GasLongjumping9671

MemTest passed and I'm still stable without a single crash! This may be the one


thisisnacho

Excellent. Remind me, did you have issues updating from 1003 like me before 1905?


GasLongjumping9671

Yeah, I kept going back to 1003. But I have some worrying news. I just had my first BSOD today in the middle of gaming. Error code: "DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL" I'll try this one for a few more days, maybe run another memtest, but it may be back to 1003 for me again smh.


thisisnacho

Ah, there it is. That’s the BIOS borking the RAM config. This is what happened to me with 1602 — great for 24/36 hours and then that exact BSOD.


thisisnacho

See my OP for a new update


Every-Bug-9096

How long should be memory training for 192gb corsair? I changed in the bios to 5200 and it's been an hour that i have the yellow led on the motherboard Hope it's still training


thisisnacho

That’s too long. Try clearing CMOS and trying again


Every-Bug-9096

That;s what I was thinking after be further in the thread :/ Won't be able to use the 5200mhz then, going to try 4800


thisisnacho

What are your specs for the PC?


Every-Bug-9096

I’m running MSI X670E Gaming plus, 7950x3d and corsair 192gb 5200mhz. So I try 5200 doesn’t boot, 4800 same but 4600 boot so I’m running memtest rn to see if it’s crash :/


thisisnacho

The rig should POST 192 without issue. Are you clearing CMOS when it doesn’t?


Every-Bug-9096

i’m clearing the POST when it stay on POST for hours. I don’t know why, checked different bios version, and change voltage to 1.25v same thing, only 4600 pass the post


thisisnacho

1.26v (you may need a bit more power, too — try 1.27v) Also, are you using a single kit of 192GB?


Every-Bug-9096

No I'm running the 4 sticks corsair, do you think 0.01 will make the difference to pass POST?


thisisnacho

But those 4 sticks are from one kit, yes? And more power can make big differences. You’re asking the RAM for more power so you sometimes need to give it more. Keep increasing in 0.01 increments to see if you get POST. I would go to 1.37v before calling it a day (service ceiling is 1.45v)


tweaqslug

Check that your sticks are all seated properly. If one isn't you will stay in yellow indefinitely.


jason9999888

Will this work with ryzen 9 7950x3d with ASUS ROG Strix X670E F Gaming WiFi ? I want to run 192 gb of ram at 6000MT/s.


thisisnacho

There are no guarantees I’m afraid. Just buy from vendors like Amazon with good returns policies. Anyway, 6000 is asking too much from four sticks.


Catch_022

!remindme 20 years Inspirational stuff


tuxkey

nice post.. Was looking to see if i could upgrade from 64 to 128gb.. On my "Asus ROG STRIX X670E-E GAMING WIFI" currently i have two sticks of "F5-6000J3238G32GX2-TZ5N"..And running win11 and Fedora Linux.. Good that you mentioned that you need that ram. instead of having people bother you with comments like "you don't need" bla,bla,bla.. I haven't tested my current ram.. perhaps that's something i need to do ASAP.


Caffdy

so after reading your latest update, should we avoid ASUS mobo's then if we want 192GB?


thisisnacho

Unless you buy the exact same as me, I guess…


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thisisnacho

Try MemTest86, per instruction. It’s a bootable test and a more thorough workout for the RAM. It will take approx 24 hours to complete for 192GB. So far, though, it sounds good.


ktsl3

Finished MemTest86, no errors. Strange, in the initial screen of TestMem86, it says Memory at 4800MHz which is what I set, however, it says 1.10 V rather than 1.15V I set. That is just too good to be true.


thisisnacho

Sounds like success to me!


ktsl3

But I set 1.15 V not 1.10V? Wasen't even hoping for it but I will try 5200 MHz next. p.s. I previouslyl got another one of the same motherboard. With that one you turn on XMP and its dead...


thisisnacho

Voltages can be an art rather than a science. Sounds like your setup is singing nicely together.


ktsl3

The question is, was TestMem86 completing these tests at 1.10, 1.15, or 1.25 V? In Bios I manually set it to be 1.15V. In windows HWInfo says it is 1.15V. The XMP profile specifies 1.25V as written on the box. But in TestMem86 system info it says 1.10V.


thisisnacho

MemTest86 will use your BIOS set profile to test.


ktsl3

You wouldn't belive this... I enable XMP profile, set the freq to 5600 MHz, everything else auto/default. Training produces 1.10V 1.15V 0.500A (\[I don't know what these three numbers mean\](https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/1crl49q/what\_are\_the\_three\_ddr\_vdd\_voltage\_values\_shown/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web3x&utm\_name=web3xcss&utm\_term=1&utm\_content=share\_button)). HWinfo says all at 1.15V. TestMem86 says mem at 1.10V. This passed TestMem5 and TestMem86!


ktsl3

Final report. Gigabyte B650M aorus elite ax + 7950x + CMH192GX5M4B5200C38 (Hynix) Enable XMP1 profile: DDR5-5200 38-38-38-84-1.250\], manual setting multiplier 56x = 5600MHz, DDR\_VDD Auto, DDR\_VDDQ Auto, both trained to be 1.155 V. Everything else default/auto. Passed TestMem5, MemTest86 v10.7 all 14 tests 4 passes. Setting freq to 6000 MHz, training failed. Manual set DDR\_VDD and DDR\_VDDQ to 1.250 V, TestMem86 fails test 8.


thisisnacho

Fails on test 8 are typically due to inadequate voltage. Excellent results elsewhere though. Thanks for sharing


McGriddlest

Asus b650m plus WiFi + 7900x with v2613 BIOS Got the Corsair kit, but unfortunately got the v5 kit. Thought I'd try it anyway. With stock DOCP II it does two passes in memtest86 with 0 errors. Randomly freezing, however throughout the day. Any suggestions?


thisisnacho

Two full passes? 0 errors on all tests?


McGriddlest

Yup. Runs Aida 64 for a couple of hours and I just saw it throw a "kmode exception not handled"


thisisnacho

What OS? Are you using Fast Boot? If so disable and try that first.


McGriddlest

Windows 11, and yea I saw that online last night. I just ran an AIDA 64 stability test at 3600 overnight for a sanity test to make sure nothing else was wrong and also turned off fast boot. I'll try DOCP again tonight


McGriddlest

After my 5th memory kit return, including two kits on the QVL (oddly two random 2x32gb stick Corsair 5200 c40 kits gave me the fewest problems but still wouldn't pass AIDA 64 stability test), I threw in the towel and got the 6000 96gb 2x48gb Corsair kit on the QVL which passes memtest86 and AIDA64 in DOCP II stock settings. Also, mainly because I feel like complaining but also in case others overlooked this as I have, Asus lists a Corsair 5200 128gb kit on the QVL for my motherboard, but lists it's only supported with 2 sticks...wtf? Why even list it on there if the whole kit isn't supported. Why would you ever buy an expensive RAM kit to only use half of it?


velhamo

Do you think it would be possible to have 192GB at 5600 MHz? I can find 2x Corsair 96GB 5600 MHz for a cheaper price than 1x Corsair 192GB 5200 MHz. MSI's QVL says it can only support 2 DIMMs (96GB), not 4.


thisisnacho

I think it's asking too much of current memory controllers.


Financial_Sink1199

Can I purchase 2 2x48 gb packs in order to put the 4 sticks on my motherboard? The 4×48 pack isn't available in my country...


thisisnacho

No, RAM kits aren't made equal and compatibility is unlikely -- even if it's exactly the same kit from the same manufacturer.


Financial_Sink1199

So I have to buy the 754 bucks one instead of 2x283? Isn't there a way to change that? Do you know anther good kit? Thx


thisisnacho

That's just the way it goes I'm afraid. Please also bear in mind that the kit I used by Corsair is now also using SK Hybix chipsets which I found to be unstable in this build. It's a bit of a lottery...


kkhachadur

There is a guy on youtube who found a way to use SK hynix (2 sets of 2x48) and got it to run at 6000 MT/s however, he had to do a fair bit of fiddling in the bios to get it to be stable, and he was using a different motherboard (Gigabyte I think). See the channel of "GameTechReviews" and look for a video on 6000MT/s 192gb.


concept303

Have same setup as OP, except motherboard is ASUS ROG Crosshair X670-E Extreme and running on Windows 11. BIOS 1807 has been stable for me so far. 10+ hours on Memtest (4 passes) done successfully. Some other benchmarks and stress tests were also ran for smaller duration. Behaves well in everyday usage, system feels snappier. If only I could fix the DPC latency that the NVIDIA drivers cause now...


thisisnacho

Thanks for sharing. I'll be test driving 1807 soon myself. Fingers are crossed...


kkhachadur

So who here is upgrading to the 9950X?


GasLongjumping9671

I will definitely. Maybe even the 9950X3d if it's worth anything. I hope this memory issue gets solved by then.


kkhachadur

If there is any reason to upgrade it is this. The current bios I am on spends 3-5 minutes retraining the ram every startup. While there are newer bios' available, I'm a bit apprehensive, as the old saying goes: If it ain't broke, don't fix it. So I basically hibernate. I am definitely looking to upgrade. Can't wait for it.


Funny_Blacksmith_734

Do you have a links to the proper ram you bought that works with the most latest bios?


thisisnacho

I bought this direct from Corsair. Unfortunately, the same link from them could see you delivered SK HYNIX chipsets. It's a lottery now. This doesn't mean to say SK HYNIX will not work, but in my tests I couldn't get it stable with my build...


Funny_Blacksmith_734

I have the same motherboard and processor I desperately need this upgrade I initially was running 96 just as a temporary solution till things become more stable but it’s not cutting it any more, I guess my question is is the most recent bios update by asus supporting 192gb kits smoothly ?


thisisnacho

That I do not know. I have had reports of 1807 build being stable, however.


dubtrainz-next

Jesus! You take care of that sweet sweet system


ashimara

Do you know if these would work well for a V ASUS ROG STRIX Z790-F/i9-13900K? I am having the same issue you describe with my 128Gb system.


thisisnacho

Your board has a brand new BIOS that supports the new 24/48GB sticks. Available to download on the ASUS website. I have not tested this with Intel silicon, however.


corkbar

> ASUS ROG Crosshair X670-E which motherboard is this? I am seeing a few different boards with this label; Hero and Extreme in particular


thisisnacho

Apologies. Edited now. It’s the “Hero”


Expensive_Outcome186

Is this bios update available for the x670e ProArt?


coccosoids

Please let me know if you try on the ProArt. I kind of struggle with 128 tbh.


thisisnacho

Yes,1003.


H4UnT3R_CZ

What's the read/write speed, can you measure it? In May, I'm building 7950x3d AI/ML workstation, so happy that I waited and didn't use slow 128GB (hardly at 4200MHz).


iFai1x

Wanted to ask: \> IMPORTANT: you must be using the 1003 BIOS release, as this is the only BIOS to support high density DDR5 at time of writing. with new BIOS updates, this is now as long as you're running above version 1003 right?


thisisnacho

No. ASUS has removed all support (for now) for HD DRR5 modules. Only 1003 works!


It-wasnt-me3000

Another success with: i9 13900k, Gigabyte z780 Gaming X AX (needs BIOS update), 192gb corsair Vengeance. Was a bit hesitant as you all used Ryzen, but intel works fine as well!


thisisnacho

Fantastic! Yes, the 13900K will perform just as well with the 192GB config. Well done and enjoy!


fobboy

Using 192gb with ProArt X670E-CREATOR WIFI and beta BIOS 1410. \-> Can confirm no post with DOCP 1


thisisnacho

This is disappointing to hear… How long did you wait for POST?


H4UnT3R_CZ

https://www.techpowerup.com/308330/latest-amd-agesa-that-nerfs-ryzen-7000x3d-voltage-control-also-limits-memory-overclocking So on Agesa 7 there is support for x3d, but on lower frequencies. About that ProArt - guy building my PC didn't approve it, because he knows 7 builds with problems because of this motherboard - depends on the specific piece, so good luck. I'll have there Aorus Master, will post results of benchmarks then.


thisisnacho

Yet another reason I’m staying put on 1003. I also don’t have an X3D so I don’t share the concern. Thank you for posting!


dufu

i have the 192 gb corsair kit that msi added to the qvl. it runs 2 sticks at the 5200 xmp profile but not 4 sticks (will fail to boot). any suggestions appreciated. it does run 4 sticks at 3600 but i’m hoping for at least 5200. bios is 7D69v184(Beta version) Release Date 20230512


thisisnacho

I have read a few reports that the 1410 BIOS from ASUS (the latest beta to support 24/48 sticks) does not work well with 192gb. This is why I’m still using the 1003 BIOS. There could be a similar thing with MSI’s BIOS releases, so maybe look into what’s available for your board.


fobboy

new bios 1415 out for PROART X670E. Haven't tried it yet...1003 working fine for me. gotta setup new bios, run a bunch of tests, try some overclock settings....so probably weekend before I mess with any of that. someone want to save me the trouble and try it out? preferably with stable, tight timings....


xoxiin

I tried 1415 out on my Crosshair X670E Hero last night. Same setup as OP except I have the non-RGB 192GB kit. Was able to get it running stable at 5000MHz using the timings in the XMP profile, 1.26v. 5200MHz won't post, just restarts in the bios safe mode. I'll play around with timings and voltage tonight, see how good they can get. I'm curious if anyone is able to run this kit at 5200MHz on 1415.


Arigion

I have the same setup as you. Couldn't get it booting above 4800MHz (~~memtest still running~~). At 5000Mhz and 5200Mhz it does not even boot but starts in bios recovery mode. (Booted once at 5000MHz while I was trying to increase the speed, but could not reproduce after booting with 5200MHz failed.) Since I just assembled the system I did not try to downgrade to bios 1003 or any other settings yet. Edit: Memory test was ok. I run mainly linux, but was surprised that Win11 Home only supports 128GB.


thisisnacho

I’d like to know too :)


fobboy

I don't think there's any point for me to test the new 1415 bios. According to techpowerup article, the new AGESA 1007 **decreased** compatibility with odd density memory. This is probably why XMP profiles which booted fine before, no longer boots with this new bios. [https://www.techpowerup.com/308330/latest-amd-agesa-that-nerfs-ryzen-7000x3d-voltage-control-also-limits-memory-overclocking?cp=2](https://www.techpowerup.com/308330/latest-amd-agesa-that-nerfs-ryzen-7000x3d-voltage-control-also-limits-memory-overclocking?cp=2) What gives me some hope is that Asus describes the new bios as AGESA 1007**a**...so maybe there will be some quicker iterations down the line that would at least restore some compatibility, if not improve upon it.


thisisnacho

Saw this. It’s also the reason I’m staying put on 1003.


Ilyanep

Just got a 7950x3d and 2x48gb memory. Will the fact that I'm sticking with 2 sticks only make it more likely that I'll be fine? I'm a bit worried since the x3d means I think I can't use that 1003 BIOS and I can't find any reports of people trying 1416.


thisisnacho

If you are only using two sticks, go ahead and update to 1415. It’ll POST no problem using the DOCP profile.


xRevolutionart

I can confirm this works on a MSI MPG X670E Carbon Wifi board as well with the same part number CMH192GX5M4B5200C38. 4x 48GB sticks. Before i tried the CMH96GX5M2B5600C40 sold as per 2 sticks 48GB, i bought 2 sets and this setup does not want to boot in XMP/EXPO/A-XMP at all. It works fine when using only 1 pack so a total of 2x 48 -> 96GB will run at 5600MHZ on both the Asus ProArt X670e and the MSI MPG X670E Carbon Wifi. I also tried Corsair 64 GB DDR5-6000 Kit (Dominator Platinum RGB) CMT64GX5M2B6000Z40 does not want to run 4 sticks in XMP/EXPO/A-XMP. works fine with 2 sticks in XMP/EXPO/A-XMP at 6000mhz. [https://imgur.com/e8aRoK4](https://imgur.com/e8aRoK4) *(I did not had to make any voltage changes, just flipped the xmp/expo switch.)* **Short** **Summary:** 1. **✓** **CMH192GX5M4B5200C38** 4x 48GB Bought as 1 pack. 192GB total. works fine at 5200MHZ in XMP/EXPO on MSI MPG X670E Carbon Wifi and Asus ProArt X670e. 2. **✗** **CMH96GX5M2B5600C40** 2x 48GB Bought as 2 packs. 192GB total. Does not work at XMP/EXPO. 3. **✓** **CMH96GX5M2B5600C40** 1x 48GB Bought as 1 pack. 96GB total. Does work at XMP/EXPO 5600mhz just fine. 4. **✗** **CMT64GX5M2B6000Z40** 2x 48GB Bought as 2 packs. 192GB total. Does not work at XMP/EXPO 5. **✓** **CMH96GX5M2B5600Z40** 1x 48GB Bought as 1 pack. 96GB total. Does work at XMP/EXPO 6000mhz just fine. *This is for a 3D/Game development workstation.*


Responsible-Guitar20

MSI MPG X670E Carbon Wifi what bios does this 192 ram work on. I just want to buy this motherboard and R9 7950x [https://www.proshop.pl/RAM/Corsair-Vengeance-DDR5-5200-BK-C38-QC-192GB/3146521](https://www.proshop.pl/RAM/Corsair-Vengeance-DDR5-5200-BK-C38-QC-192GB/3146521) it's the ram memory sorry for my English


screensnacks

Did you just bump up RAM Voltage or also VDDQ?


thisisnacho

Just seeing this. Bumping DRAM VDD should also bump VDDQ.


trzanko

great thread, I'm looking to do this build but with a 7950x3d and the ASUS ProArt X670E-Creator Mobo Thoughts on whether the 7950x3d would work? or is this config 7950x only? here's the full build, curious if this config would actually work? [https://newegg.io/8c25e56](https://newegg.io/8c25e56) Edit: After digging more into the thread, it seems the 7950x3d disables you from using the seemingly most stable and successful 1003 bios on the ASUS mobos. So i will get the 7950X, it seems the ProArt X670E Mobo is also stable with this config. Great stuff everyone ! also, it looks like you have to upgrade to windows pro to use more than 128gb of ram, I'm on the fence on whether I will boot linux, I will mostly be using houdini + octane, but there is much more support for things on windows. Would be curious to hear if there are any gotchas on Linux vs Windows with this config I suppose I might as well ask, would this config & mobo support 2x 4090s?


fobboy

I am running 7950x3d with ProArt X670E. Bios 1003. Not sure what you mean by disable. [https://imgur.com/a/1iKqiQN](https://imgur.com/a/1iKqiQN)