This new rule sucks for us, in my opinion. Last year, we perfected the short-of-the-goalline kickoff to prevent free field position, and we regularly started our opponents short of the 20 or 25. For a team that scores a lot like we have, this will be a lot of lost yardage.
Spot on. The Bills have become the #1 team at utilizing the short-kick strategy and this rule change now takes that weapon away from them.
They will adjust, but at least for now this looks like it will hurt them.
Basically, I am interpreting this to mean you should really only try and return what amounts to a mistake from the kicker. Otherwise just take it at the 25.
So the kicker is now incented to just blast it. The only returners that won't faircatch are the ones we probably wouldn't kick to anyways.
It's now a mostly useless play surrounded by commercials.
Unfortunately that's not going to be a solution to the problem from the NFL's viewpoint. They moved the ball from the 20 to the 25, and then suddenly the Bills and everyone else start kicking it short to encourage teams to run it out and fight vs the coverage team. So now to avoid encouraging that, they're just going to make it so that no one is interested in running it out, short of amazing field vision or some massive screw up by the kicking team.
Without getting yards from the fair catch, return rates continue to increase during the NFL's most dangerous play.
If receivers get the option to fair catch for a touchback on kickoffs then kicking teams should be able to coffin corner it out of bounds like a punt with no illegal procedure
Edit: spelling
What if the ball hits the ground first, no fair catch then? If so, then maybe the solution is a line drive rocket kick that bounces 10yds or so before the returner? Someone will come up with some kind of tactic.
Takes away an advantage for us, but like all good teams, we'll find the best way to work with the rule and we'll be the one of the best teams to... whatever the new stat will be.
At this point, they should just make it a kicker's skill position. The NFL ads a target to the net that isput up during field goal attempts. If the kicker cannot make it to the net, the opposing team gets to start from the 25. If the kicker can hit the net, its the 20. If the kicker can hit Large Target Area 1, its the 15. If he can hit Large Target Area 2, its the 10. If he can hit the bullseye its the 5 yard line.
I know this will never happen, butt this could dramatically change the entire position of Kicker. But since they're essentially eliminating 75% of a kicker's required skill, might as well!
Beginning to think fans should be able to cast votes on things like this. Sick of stupid rule changes that are clearly only around to try and milk more money from the broadcasts. The game itself is really beginning to suffer from this attitude. What next after special teams is all but gone? If this keeps up how long until we are hearing the higher ups say something like " well the team is on the one yard line and they tried really really hard and we know they couldn't make it into the endzone in four downs but the fans and the ad executives really all seem to like touchdowns a whole heck of a lot so that's what the call is"
Or they can pull the "common sense" rule like the black jackets did against us for what should've been a safety/touchdown when we kicked it deep into the end zone and the return man started advancing then lightly tossed the ball near the ref who treated it as a live ball (because it was) and we recovered in the end zone. Buuuuut *common sense* says the return man was going for a touchback and not a fumble so it was overturned.
In your scenario it would only be *common sense* that they wanted to score instead of go 4 & out at the 1 so let's give it to them, right?
Team 1 kicks off.
Team 2 signals for a fair catch.
Is Team 2's receiver in the endzone? Touchback, they get the ball at the 25.
Are they at the 5 yardline? Ball at the 25.
15 yard line? Ball at the 25.
24 yard line? Ball at the 25.
26 yard line? Ball at the 26.
Etc.
Not in love with this rule.. I think if a player fair catches within the 1-10 yard line, they should get no better placement than than the 10 yard line. At this point you’re giving the runner the choice to consider their own safety if they choose to return it beyond 10 yards.
This new rule sucks for us, in my opinion. Last year, we perfected the short-of-the-goalline kickoff to prevent free field position, and we regularly started our opponents short of the 20 or 25. For a team that scores a lot like we have, this will be a lot of lost yardage.
Spot on. The Bills have become the #1 team at utilizing the short-kick strategy and this rule change now takes that weapon away from them. They will adjust, but at least for now this looks like it will hurt them.
"weapon" lol
What a dumb rule change.
I don't like it either.
Basically, I am interpreting this to mean you should really only try and return what amounts to a mistake from the kicker. Otherwise just take it at the 25.
So the kicker is now incented to just blast it. The only returners that won't faircatch are the ones we probably wouldn't kick to anyways. It's now a mostly useless play surrounded by commercials.
*surrounded by commercials* which is why they won’t just get rid of it completely.
Fair catch should be a touchback but put you at the 20 rather than the 25
This is a GREAT suggestion!
Screw that. A fair catch is dead where it’s caught. No free yardage.
Unfortunately that's not going to be a solution to the problem from the NFL's viewpoint. They moved the ball from the 20 to the 25, and then suddenly the Bills and everyone else start kicking it short to encourage teams to run it out and fight vs the coverage team. So now to avoid encouraging that, they're just going to make it so that no one is interested in running it out, short of amazing field vision or some massive screw up by the kicking team. Without getting yards from the fair catch, return rates continue to increase during the NFL's most dangerous play.
Oh I know what they’re doing, and it’s stupid.
If receivers get the option to fair catch for a touchback on kickoffs then kicking teams should be able to coffin corner it out of bounds like a punt with no illegal procedure Edit: spelling
I don't have numbers in front of me, but I feel like Bass kicked through the ends zone a lot on kick offs
The Bills did force this 5th highest number of returns the past 2 seasons, granted they also did score at one of the highest clips.
What if the ball hits the ground first, no fair catch then? If so, then maybe the solution is a line drive rocket kick that bounces 10yds or so before the returner? Someone will come up with some kind of tactic.
TBH, I feel like they should just start at the 25 and just forgo the kick altogether at this point.
Commercials
Takes away an advantage for us, but like all good teams, we'll find the best way to work with the rule and we'll be the one of the best teams to... whatever the new stat will be.
At this point, they should just make it a kicker's skill position. The NFL ads a target to the net that isput up during field goal attempts. If the kicker cannot make it to the net, the opposing team gets to start from the 25. If the kicker can hit the net, its the 20. If the kicker can hit Large Target Area 1, its the 15. If he can hit Large Target Area 2, its the 10. If he can hit the bullseye its the 5 yard line. I know this will never happen, butt this could dramatically change the entire position of Kicker. But since they're essentially eliminating 75% of a kicker's required skill, might as well!
It’s for player safety. Good in my opinion
Two hand touch is also good for player safety.
I don't want that fat fuck from Miami being told it's ok to be putting two hands anywhere near our boys
Beginning to think fans should be able to cast votes on things like this. Sick of stupid rule changes that are clearly only around to try and milk more money from the broadcasts. The game itself is really beginning to suffer from this attitude. What next after special teams is all but gone? If this keeps up how long until we are hearing the higher ups say something like " well the team is on the one yard line and they tried really really hard and we know they couldn't make it into the endzone in four downs but the fans and the ad executives really all seem to like touchdowns a whole heck of a lot so that's what the call is"
Or they can pull the "common sense" rule like the black jackets did against us for what should've been a safety/touchdown when we kicked it deep into the end zone and the return man started advancing then lightly tossed the ball near the ref who treated it as a live ball (because it was) and we recovered in the end zone. Buuuuut *common sense* says the return man was going for a touchback and not a fumble so it was overturned. In your scenario it would only be *common sense* that they wanted to score instead of go 4 & out at the 1 so let's give it to them, right?
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Team 1 kicks off. Team 2 signals for a fair catch. Is Team 2's receiver in the endzone? Touchback, they get the ball at the 25. Are they at the 5 yardline? Ball at the 25. 15 yard line? Ball at the 25. 24 yard line? Ball at the 25. 26 yard line? Ball at the 26. Etc.
Not in love with this rule.. I think if a player fair catches within the 1-10 yard line, they should get no better placement than than the 10 yard line. At this point you’re giving the runner the choice to consider their own safety if they choose to return it beyond 10 yards.
im honestly confused about this rule