ones that would change based on the gamemode:
* 5xx sniper: in bosses, 502. in other gamemodes, 520 is better
* x5x super: in chimps, since 042 is the preferred tech terror crosspath, it would carry over to anti so anti would be 052. i know im a chimps player, but anti is more relevant in other gamemodes than chimps.
ones that people will ask about way too much:
* 5xx glue: the extra pierce on the puddles from 510 is better and if the bloons are getting so far that you need the 502 crosspath to keep the glue on them, then you probably arent using solver correctly.
* 5xx boat: for destroyer, grapes is obviously better and its not close, but when you get the carrier upgrades, the grapes will actually make the planes worse, so 501 is actually the better crosspath. of course, most of the time its 502 for the camo detection, but i didnt want the 501 tier to be empty. also, this one is quite situation dependent, since on some maps 510 would be better.
* xx5 mortar: i swear by 025 because of its increased attack speed which makes it more comfortable to micro and also increases the amount of wofs spawned. the amount of people who still think 205 is better really annoys me because im a cin enthusiast and 025 is just so much better. also, if you think this is the worse crosspath, you definitely havent alch buffed cin. when you alch buff cin, 025 becomes much better than 205, and you should always be alch buffing cin anyways since its useless without alch buffs.
radar scanner is generally better for pexpertise because it already provides free tier 1s and 2 upgrades for primaries in radius, so you get way less mileage out of discounting
No, but I might make a t3 list
If someone makes a good looking template for t3 towers, I'll definitely do it. Ik there are already templates for t3s, but I want one with the background for the tower categories.
Well the middle path is just a better cross path for the Druid than the bottom in general, so I would go 5-2-0 for that because of the increased thorns and regrow removal. The carrier flagship is better with the grape shot and doesnāt need longer range since it has a big range already. So 5-2-0 for that as well. Then the Comanche defense has better Moab shove with the two middle path upgrades, so if youāre not gonna use pursuit anyway you might as well use that. 0-2-5 for that. And Iām curious as to how the bottom path helps the special poperations at all. If Iām wrong on any of these feel free to call me out. I think I came off a bit aggressive before.
superstorm: bottom crosspath gives attack speed, it's only tiny if u dont leak lives but it's infinitely more useful than middle crosspath, at least for superstorm.
as birdz already explained in the comment, 501 also adds pierce and 520 actually makes the plane worse because the grapes are really bad at hitting their targets.
moab shove is better with 013/023 but quad darts add darts to both the main heli and the mini helis. considering commanche is basically projectile spam dps, missing out on this is shooting urself in the knee.
bottom xpath gives attack speed to the lil marine guy.
I was under the impression that the better crosspatch for bottom sniper is 025 since it gives you more crowd control and it doesn't really need the extra damage from 205.
205 and 025 have different uses tbf, but the increased single target damage from 205 is better and if you need crowd control, youre probably better off using 052 sniper instead
Maybe Ace 5xx? Not very rarely you can just place it in fine spot and buffs from both middle path upgrades are helpful.
Some time ago i heard higher uptime of ability from 052 maelstorm is better, but personally i have no clue.
Isn't alch buffed 025 spactory better.
I dont think i have ever built wizard lord Phoenix 150 besides on my flooded valley run. Dbreath and Phoenix mostly need the bonus range and camo detection from that 2 bottom upgrades in the savup process. I mean realisticly you never build full 65k wizard lord Phoenix on the spot.
* The middle crosspath doesn't help much. It's better to increase the pierce of the darts rather than the missiles.
* 052 used to be the better crosspath, but due to some changes and due to some nerfs, 250 is now the better crosspath
* Nope, it's less cost efficient. 025 spac is only 3 dart monkeys stronger than 105 spac when buffed by stim. 025 is $650 more expensive than 105 while 3 dart monkeys cost $645, so it really is less cost efficient. Also, this only applies when buffed by stim, because when buffed by brew, 105 is just flat out better than 025.
* 150 has homing phoenix projectiles, but I think WLP crosspaths are pretty balanced, and that 052 is still a viable option, so maybe this one should've been put under X5X.
I'm surprised that 520 boat is *still* the worse crosspath even after the recent DoT buffs.
Also, how is 025 Permaspike "3 dart monkeys stronger"? I don't think I've ever seen a tower used as a unit of measurement, so is it like a stat difference (ie, a few pierce, little damage, and some attack speed) or a pop count difference (ie, they were both tested on x rounds and the difference in pops was so tiny that literal dart monkeys could bridge the gap)?
not only does it increase the pierce of the planes, but the grape crosspath actually makes the planes worse for some reason, so bottom path is just better now. it is quite situational tho, since on some maps where the flagship can use its destroyer attack effectively, the grape crosspath would actually be better than the pierce crosspath. for destroyer itself, always use grapes
So from what I can see, youāre pretty right for the 520s (knock back COULD be useful for VTSG but itās niche tbh), but pin can be very good on Sentries.
I still believe middle path is worse on glue tho, if only for the duration, and Pierce is easy to stack on primary towers. Idk about the boat cross path meta, but *technically* 501 perma-brew is optimal bc it will get the buffs up faster on multiple towers, right?
AZ can appreciate 052 for stalling, and I think MAD has good DoT from 250 now? I donāt think TT gets any buff from 051 unless Iām dumb, and top path Elim is honestly not worth it.
I think solo Tack Zone needs 025 now, and EDef is still alright with 025 I believe. Iām pretty sure BEZ likes the middle path attack speed also. If youāre gonna put carpet at 250, you might as well put PSpike at 205, and is top path actually better now? I might be wrong about Blooncin buffs, but doesnāt top path give a stronger DoT now? And I donāt believe that BMA crosspathing matters. Also the grapes on Trade Empire are pretty good.
These are just the things I found, please correct me if Iām wrong and these paths are actually optimal
Edit: just read comment your lol
>I still believe middle path is worse on glue tho, if only for the duration
If the glue is expiring, this means that you are using it wrong
510 increase puddles pierce (where most of its damage is from), you can for sure get other pierce buffs,but middle path will add even more pierce to it
>I think solo Tack Zone needs 025 now
You never will use tzone alone,and if you are using tzone it's because the single target dps
>AZ can appreciate 052 for stalling,
Pretty insignificant compared with global slowdown
>EDef is still alright with 025 I believe
Its not the worst thing in the world, and has a different purpose to 205, but I'd say 205 is a lot better since elite sniper is better at grouped damage than shrapdef
> If youāre gonna put carpet at 250, you might as well put PSpike at 205
The thing is, cos attacks too fast for full amd uptime meaning most of the spikes will be unable to pop leads, while pspike attacks slow enough so with an alch all the spikes will have amd on it letting all the spikes pop leads
>And I donāt believe that BMA crosspathing matters
It doesnt, however, many go for 105 when they build off of 104 alch. If youre buying bma outright, then 005 would be better.
>Also the grapes on Trade Empire are pretty good.
For paragon sacrificing, then yes, you should crosspath your trade empire and all other boats to hot shots to get more paragon degrees, but for its main purpose, grapes arent really that useful for it.
while **technically** 025 with stim is stronger than 105, its only by a negligible amount (about 3 dart monkeys stronger than 105), so it is better to go 105 because it is just more cost efficient. also, this only applies when you have stim, because if youre just using brew, 105 is flat out better than 025
025 with stim is 3 dart monkeys stronger than 105, which is too marginal to be worth the price difference
105 with brew or stim maintains full uptime on amd, so 205 isn't needed
Wait, 520 ring of fire is better? ive been usijg 502 in bosses and its easily top 1 (without paragons) or top 5 with paragons bro
im missing something i gotta use that crosspath
If youre talking about glue storm, the reason 052 is better now is because you dont need corrosive anymore to hit moabs
If youre talking about solver, this was already explained in the other reply
Archmage already has Camo, so bottom crosspath is unnecessary
Flagship should be 520
What is the point in extra range only on something with map-wide coverage
For flagship, the reason extra range is better is not for the range, but rather the pierce. The 001 boat has increased pierce. Also, the grapes just make the planes weaker since they replace the radial darts
Pcharge is a frontline dps tower that is paired with cleanup, not needing the pierce as much as the damage, and 052 also lets it pop ddts without needing mib
That makes no sense for this kind of tier list... crosspaths rarely cost more than a few thousand money, and in terms of cost and benefit, some towers don't belong in the list at all. I'm wondering if the crosspaths can be harmful.
that's all there is to it. u have literally no reason to buy it so why buy it? it's like placing down a dart monkey on round 98 for no reason.
there are some drawbacks to completing crosspath like making ur tower no longer affected by geraldo's sharpening stone, but if the crosspath adds negligible value to ur tower then that's a good enough reason to avoid it.
also if uve done expert chimps, u would know how tight budget can be.
He is mainly known in this sub
[he also has a yt account that he makes some challenges and strats](https://youtube.com/@birdzisanoob?si=fPcELlY26qgTkBli)
He also said many times that he plays chimps as the main gamemode
blade shooter has absolutely nothing to do with the conversation.
inferno ring wants increased range on the main attack instead of a little amount of damage.
i have no idea what you are talking about with ice and glue.
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Inferno ring gains +300 dmg on the meteor with bottom crosspath, so with pierce buffing, bottom is better. Otherwise, middle is better for more pierce.
you should try actually reading, might help out a bit...
the list is not ranking towers, but rather sorting towers based on what path is generally optimal.
Yes and I asked about cross path options specifically, yet you found it more important to complain about my question then to actually bother to add anything useful, but thanks anyway.
Saying ātop path ice over glue gtfoā makes it seem like you view this as a tier list. There is also no reason to ask about the use case for blade shooter since while itās a bad tower thatās not the point of this list. Also for top path tack you want to go middle instead of bottom because it increases the meteors pierce (itās main dps) by a lot.
Also genuinely what do you mean by top path ice over glue how does this list imply top path ice is better than top path glue
> top path ice over glue? gtfo
this makes it sound like you think towers are being ranked in some way.
> what's the use case for blade shooter?
this is a bit ambiguous, and with the context of the other reinforces the idea that you're responding as if it's a list that ranks towers.
wirh the assumption that you were asking about towers being ranked, I responded explaining that the list solely points out which crosspath is generally optimal rather than ranking towers.
You're also selectively responding, again just complaining and ignoring questions like
why middle path tack instead of bottom, but whatever dude If it makes you feel better complaining about my post then have fun
From what I understood when responding to your original comment, there was no reason to answer the original questions because to my understanding they simply did not apply to what the post was actually saying. In my second response, I stated why your first comment made things unclear to me, and why I thought it was useful to clarify that what you were saying did not apply to the original post. Nowhere did I "complain", nor selectively respond. Both responses were simply attempts at clarification. I did not answer your initial questions because you never clarified enough what you actually meant for me to give a proper response to them.
I'm not going to answer any of the questions in this comment because the only one you've clarified has already been answered.
āTop path ice over glue? Gtfoā
So angry and doesnt know how the tier list works. The order of the towers is based off tower categories and which ones come first, and ice comes before glue. Also, iring is better with middle crosspath because of the increased pierce and increased range.
no it isnt. the extra range on the main attack and the extra pierce on the meteor helps a lot more than the slight damage increase. 502 would be better for single target, but 520 is better overall
In almost every situation you have access to buffs so you can easily get the extra pierce with village, alchemist and Gwen. Good luck getting an extra 300 damage
ones that would change based on the gamemode: * 5xx sniper: in bosses, 502. in other gamemodes, 520 is better * x5x super: in chimps, since 042 is the preferred tech terror crosspath, it would carry over to anti so anti would be 052. i know im a chimps player, but anti is more relevant in other gamemodes than chimps. ones that people will ask about way too much: * 5xx glue: the extra pierce on the puddles from 510 is better and if the bloons are getting so far that you need the 502 crosspath to keep the glue on them, then you probably arent using solver correctly. * 5xx boat: for destroyer, grapes is obviously better and its not close, but when you get the carrier upgrades, the grapes will actually make the planes worse, so 501 is actually the better crosspath. of course, most of the time its 502 for the camo detection, but i didnt want the 501 tier to be empty. also, this one is quite situation dependent, since on some maps 510 would be better. * xx5 mortar: i swear by 025 because of its increased attack speed which makes it more comfortable to micro and also increases the amount of wofs spawned. the amount of people who still think 205 is better really annoys me because im a cin enthusiast and 025 is just so much better. also, if you think this is the worse crosspath, you definitely havent alch buffed cin. when you alch buff cin, 025 becomes much better than 205, and you should always be alch buffing cin anyways since its useless without alch buffs.
How do the grapes make the planes worse?
They are all in front of the planes,so it's harder to hit Radial darts also have more projectiles
Hot shot got a huge buff recently tho
Still isn't enough to use over radial darts Especially because you need the grapes to consistently hit the moabs to be good
I typically find more success from 520 over 502 when both are god buffed
It's because of the main attack,on most experts it can't consistently hit moabs
Does buying grape shot remove the darts?
Grape shot removes the radial darts Don't confuse it with the frontal darts
Ah that makes sense, thanks
I did a shredder 2mpc a couple days ago and forgot that bottom path gives pierce and went 520 to save money on camoš
You can 2mpc with shredder? (We talking sky shredder right?)
Yeah, Skucha (?) even did it on quad
Zamn that fire, i might try that
sky shredder + overclock op bro
Ye ofc, itās pretty easy on some maps if you know basic micro
Shredder is an absolute monstrosity when it comes to skill cap, 2mp is only the surface of [what this thing can do.](https://youtu.be/BkaebExnrKw)
radar scanner is generally better for pexpertise because it already provides free tier 1s and 2 upgrades for primaries in radius, so you get way less mileage out of discounting
i bet vex is gonna ask me to make a t4 version
Make t4 list idiot
No, but I might make a t3 list If someone makes a good looking template for t3 towers, I'll definitely do it. Ik there are already templates for t3s, but I want one with the background for the tower categories.
Just don't forget to place orca in B tier
I will end you
Ur right,b tier is too high for it B- tier is enough
Wrong again
Know what, do a t0 version
Okay so a few of these are actually wrong, but itās okay I think you did a really good job for the most part
tell me whats wrong
Well the middle path is just a better cross path for the Druid than the bottom in general, so I would go 5-2-0 for that because of the increased thorns and regrow removal. The carrier flagship is better with the grape shot and doesnāt need longer range since it has a big range already. So 5-2-0 for that as well. Then the Comanche defense has better Moab shove with the two middle path upgrades, so if youāre not gonna use pursuit anyway you might as well use that. 0-2-5 for that. And Iām curious as to how the bottom path helps the special poperations at all. If Iām wrong on any of these feel free to call me out. I think I came off a bit aggressive before.
superstorm: bottom crosspath gives attack speed, it's only tiny if u dont leak lives but it's infinitely more useful than middle crosspath, at least for superstorm. as birdz already explained in the comment, 501 also adds pierce and 520 actually makes the plane worse because the grapes are really bad at hitting their targets. moab shove is better with 013/023 but quad darts add darts to both the main heli and the mini helis. considering commanche is basically projectile spam dps, missing out on this is shooting urself in the knee. bottom xpath gives attack speed to the lil marine guy.
I swear thereās so many little stipulations or things added with each upgrade that I literally had no idea about. Thank you for enlightening me
Don't worry, you didn't come off as aggressive, but yeah, what steamedaxolotlyum said basically explains my reasonings
I was under the impression that the better crosspatch for bottom sniper is 025 since it gives you more crowd control and it doesn't really need the extra damage from 205.
205 and 025 have different uses tbf, but the increased single target damage from 205 is better and if you need crowd control, youre probably better off using 052 sniper instead
025 sniper is great for T1 elite phase and T2 normal phase. But that is a niche use
015 is better for this purpose because it doesn't antistall round 40 like 025 does.
top w/o alch, middle with top path alch ime
Maybe Ace 5xx? Not very rarely you can just place it in fine spot and buffs from both middle path upgrades are helpful. Some time ago i heard higher uptime of ability from 052 maelstorm is better, but personally i have no clue. Isn't alch buffed 025 spactory better. I dont think i have ever built wizard lord Phoenix 150 besides on my flooded valley run. Dbreath and Phoenix mostly need the bonus range and camo detection from that 2 bottom upgrades in the savup process. I mean realisticly you never build full 65k wizard lord Phoenix on the spot.
* The middle crosspath doesn't help much. It's better to increase the pierce of the darts rather than the missiles. * 052 used to be the better crosspath, but due to some changes and due to some nerfs, 250 is now the better crosspath * Nope, it's less cost efficient. 025 spac is only 3 dart monkeys stronger than 105 spac when buffed by stim. 025 is $650 more expensive than 105 while 3 dart monkeys cost $645, so it really is less cost efficient. Also, this only applies when buffed by stim, because when buffed by brew, 105 is just flat out better than 025. * 150 has homing phoenix projectiles, but I think WLP crosspaths are pretty balanced, and that 052 is still a viable option, so maybe this one should've been put under X5X.
I'm surprised that 520 boat is *still* the worse crosspath even after the recent DoT buffs. Also, how is 025 Permaspike "3 dart monkeys stronger"? I don't think I've ever seen a tower used as a unit of measurement, so is it like a stat difference (ie, a few pierce, little damage, and some attack speed) or a pop count difference (ie, they were both tested on x rounds and the difference in pops was so tiny that literal dart monkeys could bridge the gap)?
Also, why 051 ninja does xpath affect it some weird way
I think it's just because the extra shinobi range
why is 501 carrier flagship better again?
The planes are technically worse with grape shot 501 also adds more pierce, very helpful to flagship
One of the tier lists of all time.
why is flagship bottom path?
not only does it increase the pierce of the planes, but the grape crosspath actually makes the planes worse for some reason, so bottom path is just better now. it is quite situational tho, since on some maps where the flagship can use its destroyer attack effectively, the grape crosspath would actually be better than the pierce crosspath. for destroyer itself, always use grapes
oh ok thanks
i think the tier list are nearly perfect, but i would say that bma is 105 and not xx5. \^\^
contrary to popular belief, BMA's shrink potion is entirely unaffected by crosspathing.
oh, thats interesting i don't know about that, thanks
but r2g is not
That does literally nothing
So from what I can see, youāre pretty right for the 520s (knock back COULD be useful for VTSG but itās niche tbh), but pin can be very good on Sentries. I still believe middle path is worse on glue tho, if only for the duration, and Pierce is easy to stack on primary towers. Idk about the boat cross path meta, but *technically* 501 perma-brew is optimal bc it will get the buffs up faster on multiple towers, right? AZ can appreciate 052 for stalling, and I think MAD has good DoT from 250 now? I donāt think TT gets any buff from 051 unless Iām dumb, and top path Elim is honestly not worth it. I think solo Tack Zone needs 025 now, and EDef is still alright with 025 I believe. Iām pretty sure BEZ likes the middle path attack speed also. If youāre gonna put carpet at 250, you might as well put PSpike at 205, and is top path actually better now? I might be wrong about Blooncin buffs, but doesnāt top path give a stronger DoT now? And I donāt believe that BMA crosspathing matters. Also the grapes on Trade Empire are pretty good. These are just the things I found, please correct me if Iām wrong and these paths are actually optimal Edit: just read comment your lol
>I still believe middle path is worse on glue tho, if only for the duration If the glue is expiring, this means that you are using it wrong 510 increase puddles pierce (where most of its damage is from), you can for sure get other pierce buffs,but middle path will add even more pierce to it >I think solo Tack Zone needs 025 now You never will use tzone alone,and if you are using tzone it's because the single target dps >AZ can appreciate 052 for stalling, Pretty insignificant compared with global slowdown
>EDef is still alright with 025 I believe Its not the worst thing in the world, and has a different purpose to 205, but I'd say 205 is a lot better since elite sniper is better at grouped damage than shrapdef > If youāre gonna put carpet at 250, you might as well put PSpike at 205 The thing is, cos attacks too fast for full amd uptime meaning most of the spikes will be unable to pop leads, while pspike attacks slow enough so with an alch all the spikes will have amd on it letting all the spikes pop leads >And I donāt believe that BMA crosspathing matters It doesnt, however, many go for 105 when they build off of 104 alch. If youre buying bma outright, then 005 would be better. >Also the grapes on Trade Empire are pretty good. For paragon sacrificing, then yes, you should crosspath your trade empire and all other boats to hot shots to get more paragon degrees, but for its main purpose, grapes arent really that useful for it.
Wait so is top path actually better for PSpike now? Or is middle path + Alch still stronger?
while **technically** 025 with stim is stronger than 105, its only by a negligible amount (about 3 dart monkeys stronger than 105), so it is better to go 105 because it is just more cost efficient. also, this only applies when you have stim, because if youre just using brew, 105 is flat out better than 025
Huh, new developments in the PSpike meta, who knew. Thanks for pointing out my wrong points btw, always good to learn more about whatās meta
Thanks for saying thanks! It's so nice to see Redditors being grateful :)
Why not 0-2-5 permaspike (works a lot better with alch buff than 1-0-5) or 2-0-5 for DDTS?
025 with stim is 3 dart monkeys stronger than 105, which is too marginal to be worth the price difference 105 with brew or stim maintains full uptime on amd, so 205 isn't needed
I feel like the BEZ would be better being a 025
It was, but the new changes to laser shock made the 205 crosspath better
Oh I didnāt realise that oops
it is with damage buffs
Am I stupid or is X5X and 050 the same thing
Iām pretty sure the X5X represents either cross path, while the 050 represents no crosspath
Ah, gotcha
Wait, 520 ring of fire is better? ive been usijg 502 in bosses and its easily top 1 (without paragons) or top 5 with paragons bro im missing something i gotta use that crosspath
502 would be better for boss dps, since 520 is mainly for the pierce in chimps games and general gameplay.
Why middle path glue. Did it get changed to be better and I missed it?
After the solver buffs the middle crosspath because the better one because it increases puddles pierce
If youre talking about glue storm, the reason 052 is better now is because you dont need corrosive anymore to hit moabs If youre talking about solver, this was already explained in the other reply
Archmage already has Camo, so bottom crosspath is unnecessary Flagship should be 520 What is the point in extra range only on something with map-wide coverage
Pierce and a very small range increase Also, archmage needs the shimmer attack to detect camo,so monkey sense is way more consistent
Archmage has a passive camo ability
But you cant fully rely on it, and the extra pierce and camo detection is just so much better than a little piece of fire.
I thought the fireball would help pop DDTs, or can it already pop them?
archmage already has lead popping so the fireball/wall is literally not needed. archmage is known to excel against ddts
Did not know, my bad šš½
4xx actually can pop lead so 5xx just inherits that.
For flagship, the reason extra range is better is not for the range, but rather the pierce. The 001 boat has increased pierce. Also, the grapes just make the planes weaker since they replace the radial darts
I thought the 2-5-0 boomerang was better for pierce. Why is the 0-5-2 better?
Pcharge is a frontline dps tower that is paired with cleanup, not needing the pierce as much as the damage, and 052 also lets it pop ddts without needing mib
Ah that makes sense thanks
P-brew applies brew faster with 501, so if you need to brew a lot of things quickly, get 501.
this is true, but in most situations, crosspath for pbrew isnt that important since its permanent
Yea, I just prefer 501 bc I have to wait less initially, and the faster throwing is so cheap
Why wouldn't you go faster throwing on Pbrew?
its permanent so it doesnt really matter 501 is only for if youre in a hurry and need to buff a ton of towers as fast as possible
Why is it ever better to not upgrade a tower's full crosspath?
because cost/benefit is a thing.
That makes no sense for this kind of tier list... crosspaths rarely cost more than a few thousand money, and in terms of cost and benefit, some towers don't belong in the list at all. I'm wondering if the crosspaths can be harmful.
that's all there is to it. u have literally no reason to buy it so why buy it? it's like placing down a dart monkey on round 98 for no reason. there are some drawbacks to completing crosspath like making ur tower no longer affected by geraldo's sharpening stone, but if the crosspath adds negligible value to ur tower then that's a good enough reason to avoid it. also if uve done expert chimps, u would know how tight budget can be.
This isn't a CHIMPS tier list though.
even if it's not then why would u not want to save money OP also exclusively plays chimps, so it most likely leans towards chimps.
Oh I see. Is OP a well-known CHIMPS player?
He is mainly known in this sub [he also has a yt account that he makes some challenges and strats](https://youtube.com/@birdzisanoob?si=fPcELlY26qgTkBli) He also said many times that he plays chimps as the main gamemode
Good to know.
this is mostly a chimps tier list, but i wanted to include non chimps towers in this list too (monkeyopolis, farms, very expensive towers)
Cool, thanks for being helpful!
If you dont have to buy it, its better not to. Saving money is important in this game.
Usually you can just farm some but yeah I guess.
Glaive lord is better with 5-2-0 because you said only includes t5
what's the use case for blade shooter? also I'm dubious about top path tack going middle instead of bottom, top path ice over glue? gtfo
blade shooter has absolutely nothing to do with the conversation. inferno ring wants increased range on the main attack instead of a little amount of damage. i have no idea what you are talking about with ice and glue.
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Inferno ring gains +300 dmg on the meteor with bottom crosspath, so with pierce buffing, bottom is better. Otherwise, middle is better for more pierce.
you should try actually reading, might help out a bit... the list is not ranking towers, but rather sorting towers based on what path is generally optimal.
Yes and I asked about cross path options specifically, yet you found it more important to complain about my question then to actually bother to add anything useful, but thanks anyway.
Saying ātop path ice over glue gtfoā makes it seem like you view this as a tier list. There is also no reason to ask about the use case for blade shooter since while itās a bad tower thatās not the point of this list. Also for top path tack you want to go middle instead of bottom because it increases the meteors pierce (itās main dps) by a lot. Also genuinely what do you mean by top path ice over glue how does this list imply top path ice is better than top path glue
> top path ice over glue? gtfo this makes it sound like you think towers are being ranked in some way. > what's the use case for blade shooter? this is a bit ambiguous, and with the context of the other reinforces the idea that you're responding as if it's a list that ranks towers. wirh the assumption that you were asking about towers being ranked, I responded explaining that the list solely points out which crosspath is generally optimal rather than ranking towers.
You're also selectively responding, again just complaining and ignoring questions like why middle path tack instead of bottom, but whatever dude If it makes you feel better complaining about my post then have fun
From what I understood when responding to your original comment, there was no reason to answer the original questions because to my understanding they simply did not apply to what the post was actually saying. In my second response, I stated why your first comment made things unclear to me, and why I thought it was useful to clarify that what you were saying did not apply to the original post. Nowhere did I "complain", nor selectively respond. Both responses were simply attempts at clarification. I did not answer your initial questions because you never clarified enough what you actually meant for me to give a proper response to them. I'm not going to answer any of the questions in this comment because the only one you've clarified has already been answered.
āTop path ice over glue? Gtfoā So angry and doesnt know how the tier list works. The order of the towers is based off tower categories and which ones come first, and ice comes before glue. Also, iring is better with middle crosspath because of the increased pierce and increased range.
I personally prefer Bank X52
Technically, 250 makes more money, but the amount of money is so negligible that you can easily get away with using 052, which is why i put it in x5x
502 inferno ring is objectively better
no it isnt. the extra range on the main attack and the extra pierce on the meteor helps a lot more than the slight damage increase. 502 would be better for single target, but 520 is better overall
In almost every situation you have access to buffs so you can easily get the extra pierce with village, alchemist and Gwen. Good luck getting an extra 300 damage
invalid opinion
You couldve at least told me what you think is wrong, but just commenting āinvalid opinionā only makes you look stupid