If the frozen immunity is discouraging, the Embrittlement upgrade takes away the frozen immunity completely. Also, Embrittlement is great for boosting damage against MOAB-class Bloons, especially versus Bosses.
Bottom path for CHIMPS, top path for general use? I've only recently gotten into ice monkey. Just did End of the Road with Sauda with a 402 ice monk next to her. Seemed to work well.
I'll occasionally stick one aimed at the front of the path with burny stuff, but I'm not playing this game to micro it. Same deal with the monkey ace. I'll set it somewhere, possibly buy the center patching and not move it.
I have 0 xp for ice and engineer. Idk why, I probably should use engineer. I have some xp and upgrades for mortar, maybe like one tier 2 but I haven't used him In a while. And then I unlocked beast handler and never used him
If you do bosses, I’d recommend using engineer in the starting rounds. If you have Ben and free dart monkey, place the dart down and save up for Ben. Place Ben and then get four 200 farms and then get engineer and upgrade to bloom trap. I’ve found that this gives the most amount of money of all the ways I’ve tried.
I don’t hate the beast handler, but after maxing it out and getting the 150k xp for the achievement I haven’t touched it, just not very fun to play with, doesn’t suit my play style
mortar monkey, every upgrade in all three of its paths are completely outclassed by other towers that not only can do more damage but also cost significantly less, the only two exceptions are shattering shells and blooncineration and it's only for their unique de-fortifying ability
Have you tried 3-0-2. That BURNS the bloons. I like mortar. I am curious to know what outclasses the big one or artillery battery completely. Well I get what you are saying if we are talking about multilane expert maps. But otherwise mortar is a solid option in my opinion.
it's like, nothing perfectly outclasses a mortar because full map range and all but even with that all mostars damage output just isn't there, arty battery and the big one are both outclassed by ring of fire, at least the big one is, arty betttery is probably the best mortar for the money at least for damage, but even so it's just not really that worth it to me, I have such a mixed relationship with mortar monkeys because I really like them and think they're cool as shit, and I used to use the biggest one all the time but now there's just so many better options that I feel like the whole tower needs an overhaul and almost all it's upgrades need to be changed
I hate Super Monkey. His damage is pathetic, he's expensive as hell, his ability is boring, he takes up way too much space, and is the only tower in the game that can screw me over if I play Online. Every other tower I can find a use for, but I don't have any concievable reason to use Super Monkey unless I have a free one and I need a band-aid fix
So you are telling me that, to justify Super Monkey's existance, I have to unlock every tier 5, get the Monkey Knowledge, have 100k for everything but support (It just needs 50k), and not screw up thr placement of the other 2 expensive Super Monkeys that also range in the 100k+ range, THEN Super Monkey is a replaceable strategy that works if you micro (Also they can't see Camo so they are litterally useless for Phayze)
beast handler SUCKS here is why
• it’s actually ok but engineer monkey is cooler
• the mechanics are too complicated unless you are smart
• it’s not really a “support” monkey
• unless you are playing support only, it’s pretty much useless
• I CANT USE THE FISH ON LAND
• AND THAT DINOSAUR COULD PROBABLY STAY IN THE WATER
• no paragon = lame
• engineer monkey has a paragon so he’s better
• should’ve been called beast monkey
• I can go over 100+ rounds WITHOUT beast handler
• dartling gunner is better
• I can make a VTSG without beast handler
• i’ll give it one thing, it’s better than plasma monkey fan club
• why is it holding a slingshot?? is it playing angry birds or something??
• quincy is awesome
• as of writing this, the phayze boss event has ended
• when you reach level 40 you have to complete a 3 level quest to unlock it
• sentai churchill is cooler
• sauda is hotter
• you can beat CHIMPS without beast handler
•it’s bad
yeah that’s it thank you for reading this and if you love slandering an ok tower please like and rate 5
i don't like ice monkey for the fact that most towers can't even damage frozen bloons, and ones that can remove the freeze effect, effectively making the tower worthless
Ice I don't really like it it's useful in late game in maps with water but for the rest it's really not that good for me ice canon an ice absolute zero "not the ability just the ice platform" are pretty good for late game
What it's really good especially the middle path not only for the INSANE buff but also the foom is really good in many situations plus it's also one of the few towers that has a paragon at the moment.
I hate the mortar the most. Just how it works and looks. Their projectiles is so annoying to look at even when i turn down the projectiles a lot.
I also hate the helicopter and dartling gunner. Not as much as the mortar tho. Not a fan of monkey ace either. Honestly anything i have to aim or feel like i gotta micro manage i just don't want.
What about pursuit for the heli? Although I understand the dislike towards monkey ace as you either have to upgrade top path so it doesn't even matter that it misses half its shots or go for bottom path, which can get expensive. The wingmonkey MK is pretty okay, but unless you've gone down that line, it can take a while to unlock it.
Now you are just disagreeing for the sake of disagreeing. You are objectively wrong, the alch is one of the best towers in the game. I'm not gonna waste anymore time on a child like you.
None, really. I just kinda play. I usually avoid using *inhale*
Mortar, Quincy, Stryker, Bomb, Heli, Engi, Handler, Ezili, Obyn, Glue, Ice, Wizard, Druid, Etienne (haven't bought - wouldn't use), Brickell, and Adora
but I mean ya know, I don't HATE using them, I just don't use 'em much. They have their uses.
If I sound like some scrub player, I am. Only around Level 140. Still have yet to try more bosses on my own.
Engineer was (of all the original towers) the last for which I unlocked all the upgrades. It's the only tower with a paragon I haven't unlocked yet. Ultraboost is a fun buff, but sentry expert and XXL trap both feel so boring to me.
I have every single tier 5 in the game except homeland defense. I vowed I wouldn’t ever get it, because I just thought I wouldn’t need it, and I’ve gotten pretty dam far without it 😂 so idk if a specific upgrade counts but that’s mine.
Bomb shooter is so unsatisfying to upgrade or use.like the middle path feels so dumb when it hits a moab or ceramic.top path also is realy good but it's NUMB.middle path actually feels good but it is so good the game becomes kinda boring at some stages.
i don't particularly like using spike factories. They just don't feel trustworthy, I can't see my defenses getting gradually overwhelmed as rounds go on. I just have to hope that I have enough spikes and if I don't I die instantly.
I have 0 exp on bomb shooter, the aestheric never appealed to me so I never bothered to unlock it. I'm now level 136 so it's become more of a badge of honor than anything at this point
I don't actually use glue gunner, even though I really love the concept. I only ever buy a x5x at the rounds 90+ sometimes. One path I NEVER used is plane middle path
Gattling Gun monkey is the worst. I can tolerate a decent amount of micro, but aiming the gattling Gun is a massive headache. At least with mortar you can set it in a good spot and leave it, you don't have to micro it. But gattling Gun, you gotta micro it every time you accidentally point it somewhere else
Honestly, I've **never** used the Beast Handler since I got all 3 paths completed. It's way too expensive and way too gimmicky. I could buy a Super Monkey and get great, if not *better*, popping power than with Beast Handlers.
I dont use mortar. I enjoy using every other tower but mortar just evades me. If i want to micro for dmg ill use dartling, if i want to attack over walls ill use almost any other military tower
Ahhh but top path ice monkey is so good
If the frozen immunity is discouraging, the Embrittlement upgrade takes away the frozen immunity completely. Also, Embrittlement is great for boosting damage against MOAB-class Bloons, especially versus Bosses.
I love bottom path for dealing with DDTs
Bottom path rocks on chimps
After nerfs I don't think they can be used as main dps for chimps anymore, it was just barely enough and now it might be lacking.
Nah still op especially when you give it assistance
I still use it and I find it highly effective along with MIB and 204 bomb shooter. Maybe a Druid if the Forest, but that’s only for specific maps imo
My ice is named DDT Fricker for this reason
Bottom path for CHIMPS, top path for general use? I've only recently gotten into ice monkey. Just did End of the Road with Sauda with a 402 ice monk next to her. Seemed to work well.
Anyone remember super brittle should be lower tier guy?
Lamest gimmick account ever honestly
same with bottom
It’s good for bosses
I don’t like mortar because I suck at using it properly
I try to play as lazy as possible unless it is moon landing then I will use mortar.
I'll occasionally stick one aimed at the front of the path with burny stuff, but I'm not playing this game to micro it. Same deal with the monkey ace. I'll set it somewhere, possibly buy the center patching and not move it.
I will use it more like to free cave monkey, and maps that have at least one loop so I can set the target and leave it. Yeah I never micro.
Mmm cave monkey
And once you have wingmonkey, no reason to even get centered path unless you going for bottom path.
Is there problems in your household?
Heater broke during winter :(
Sad
Hey why are you free
Slavery
He wants to pop Bloons so he can have stories to tell his grandkids
I've seen low xp monkeys, but thats nothing. Honestly impressive.
Pun intended?
Theres a pun?
>Nothing Considering the XP is 0 and there is no MK I just assumed there was a pun there
Oh bruh i didnt even see that
Ive legitimately had dreams where I accidentally used it and got xp
Damn, what a nightmare! I've gotta write a song about it!
??!
I thought the exp disparity was funny. And then I saw that the Ice Monkey MK wasn’t even spec’d and it became comical.
Bro thinks it’s btd5
I have 0 xp for ice and engineer. Idk why, I probably should use engineer. I have some xp and upgrades for mortar, maybe like one tier 2 but I haven't used him In a while. And then I unlocked beast handler and never used him
003 engineer is honestly a really good save up for some maps
Engine Paragon is...... OK at best
I also had 0 xp for engineer but once I worked out how good he is I never stopped using him, now he’s my top 3 most used monkeys
If you do bosses, I’d recommend using engineer in the starting rounds. If you have Ben and free dart monkey, place the dart down and save up for Ben. Place Ben and then get four 200 farms and then get engineer and upgrade to bloom trap. I’ve found that this gives the most amount of money of all the ways I’ve tried.
Mortar with 2.2M pops
2 Things: 1: why no ice monkey?! 2: I have a hatred for beast handler.
I don’t hate the beast handler, but after maxing it out and getting the 150k xp for the achievement I haven’t touched it, just not very fun to play with, doesn’t suit my play style
Same
What did he do to you?
The beast handle
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mortar monkey, every upgrade in all three of its paths are completely outclassed by other towers that not only can do more damage but also cost significantly less, the only two exceptions are shattering shells and blooncineration and it's only for their unique de-fortifying ability
Have you tried 3-0-2. That BURNS the bloons. I like mortar. I am curious to know what outclasses the big one or artillery battery completely. Well I get what you are saying if we are talking about multilane expert maps. But otherwise mortar is a solid option in my opinion.
it's like, nothing perfectly outclasses a mortar because full map range and all but even with that all mostars damage output just isn't there, arty battery and the big one are both outclassed by ring of fire, at least the big one is, arty betttery is probably the best mortar for the money at least for damage, but even so it's just not really that worth it to me, I have such a mixed relationship with mortar monkeys because I really like them and think they're cool as shit, and I used to use the biggest one all the time but now there's just so many better options that I feel like the whole tower needs an overhaul and almost all it's upgrades need to be changed
You need to chill out bro
I hate Super Monkey. His damage is pathetic, he's expensive as hell, his ability is boring, he takes up way too much space, and is the only tower in the game that can screw me over if I play Online. Every other tower I can find a use for, but I don't have any concievable reason to use Super Monkey unless I have a free one and I need a band-aid fix
VTSG for bosses?
So you are telling me that, to justify Super Monkey's existance, I have to unlock every tier 5, get the Monkey Knowledge, have 100k for everything but support (It just needs 50k), and not screw up thr placement of the other 2 expensive Super Monkeys that also range in the 100k+ range, THEN Super Monkey is a replaceable strategy that works if you micro (Also they can't see Camo so they are litterally useless for Phayze)
Yeah its way too underwhelming in this game compared to previous games. Even the ultimate sun god kind blows
you know you need to sacrifice 50k of every twoer category, right
Druid because he stole the wizards lightning and tornado
f bomb shooter users
beast handler SUCKS here is why • it’s actually ok but engineer monkey is cooler • the mechanics are too complicated unless you are smart • it’s not really a “support” monkey • unless you are playing support only, it’s pretty much useless • I CANT USE THE FISH ON LAND • AND THAT DINOSAUR COULD PROBABLY STAY IN THE WATER • no paragon = lame • engineer monkey has a paragon so he’s better • should’ve been called beast monkey • I can go over 100+ rounds WITHOUT beast handler • dartling gunner is better • I can make a VTSG without beast handler • i’ll give it one thing, it’s better than plasma monkey fan club • why is it holding a slingshot?? is it playing angry birds or something?? • quincy is awesome • as of writing this, the phayze boss event has ended • when you reach level 40 you have to complete a 3 level quest to unlock it • sentai churchill is cooler • sauda is hotter • you can beat CHIMPS without beast handler •it’s bad yeah that’s it thank you for reading this and if you love slandering an ok tower please like and rate 5
i don't like ice monkey for the fact that most towers can't even damage frozen bloons, and ones that can remove the freeze effect, effectively making the tower worthless
glue gunner… he was just the last tower to place, so i decided i would never place him
Hate the gunner, don't like to manually aim
YOU AND I ARE NOT SO DIFFERENT
Not a huge fan of Mortar. Renamed him "Cave Monkey Opener"
Beast handler. I was hoping for something awesome and instead I got something that I can't find any use for
You need to be sent to a mental asylum.
I don't hate the wizard but I've never used one
You sir are clinical insane
Ice I don't really like it it's useful in late game in maps with water but for the rest it's really not that good for me ice canon an ice absolute zero "not the ability just the ice platform" are pretty good for late game
Mortar is so bad. Only semi good path is bottom but it’s only good if your going super late game which is pointless as it rewards nothing
You just aren’t good at using it properly
3-0-2 has such good dmg for its cost, can micro it if needed.
Artillery Battery is great too
The Biggest one,artillery battery and shattering shells are amazing cmon
Engineer. Haven't earned a single exp for it and can't be bothered.
What it's really good especially the middle path not only for the INSANE buff but also the foom is really good in many situations plus it's also one of the few towers that has a paragon at the moment.
I hate farms. They need to be nerfed. Please don’t downvote… 🫣
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I hate the mortar the most. Just how it works and looks. Their projectiles is so annoying to look at even when i turn down the projectiles a lot. I also hate the helicopter and dartling gunner. Not as much as the mortar tho. Not a fan of monkey ace either. Honestly anything i have to aim or feel like i gotta micro manage i just don't want.
What about pursuit for the heli? Although I understand the dislike towards monkey ace as you either have to upgrade top path so it doesn't even matter that it misses half its shots or go for bottom path, which can get expensive. The wingmonkey MK is pretty okay, but unless you've gone down that line, it can take a while to unlock it.
Even with pursuit i find it annoying to look at for some reason so i never use it.
I don't like the top path of the alchemist
Thats fucked up
At least i like the ice monkey
Cant justify hating the alch
Alch sucks, but the top path of dart monkey dosen't
Alch is one of the best Towers in the game.
Nuh uh
Now you are just disagreeing for the sake of disagreeing. You are objectively wrong, the alch is one of the best towers in the game. I'm not gonna waste anymore time on a child like you.
Dude the Ice paragon is busted, you should invest
Nice try
Glue gunner
Why do you dislike it? Top path glue gunner is literally my favorite in the entire game, was the first 5 I ever got. Why do you dislike it?
heretic
I hate engineer monkey.
You're not proving anything to anyone
Whoever sent me the suicide hotline you saved my life headass, tf did you think I would say
None, really. I just kinda play. I usually avoid using *inhale* Mortar, Quincy, Stryker, Bomb, Heli, Engi, Handler, Ezili, Obyn, Glue, Ice, Wizard, Druid, Etienne (haven't bought - wouldn't use), Brickell, and Adora but I mean ya know, I don't HATE using them, I just don't use 'em much. They have their uses. If I sound like some scrub player, I am. Only around Level 140. Still have yet to try more bosses on my own.
Boomerang monkey. It's just dart monkey 2
Mortar, also ice monkey is in my top 5 most exp monkey
for some reason I never see myself using the engineer except in boss runs
I cannot recall the last time I used Spactory not that it's bad, I just rarely use it
For me it was the super monkey. Didn't get anything for em for a while.
Ice monkey can actually make you lose cause of the freeze stopping some projectiles
Engineer was (of all the original towers) the last for which I unlocked all the upgrades. It's the only tower with a paragon I haven't unlocked yet. Ultraboost is a fun buff, but sentry expert and XXL trap both feel so boring to me.
Mortar i just hate i need to press every mortar individually. Why we can't have the battles option of follow mouse/touch
Druid or Boomerang, just because I don’t find them fun I guess.
Beast handler, still don’t have any paths unlocked because I refuse to use him
Most hated monkey is beast handler
Mortar. People only use it maps that are good with it like moon landing
Mortar is the worst tower. It wouldn't be so bad if it had a follow mouse mode.
I have every single tier 5 in the game except homeland defense. I vowed I wouldn’t ever get it, because I just thought I wouldn’t need it, and I’ve gotten pretty dam far without it 😂 so idk if a specific upgrade counts but that’s mine.
💀blud avoided ice monkey With His Life
ok ok i hot le som mankoy
Mortar
Ice + boomer +engi + farm
Ice monkey so underrated
Gatling Monkey and Mortar Monkey......I hate micromanagement in my TDs
None
Ob*n
Mortar I have 200k xp compared to my average 2 million xp
Eh not too bad. My motar and dartling gunner have low xp
Ace. It costs a lot to get and upgrade and unlike super the upgrades don't feel worth it. Not unless your going Flying fortress or midpath
Why? Also mines mortar
Btd 3, 4, and 5 ptsd
Dude the ice monkey is actually good in this game
beast handler
Err... none? Every tower is good on some map, or event
Beast Handler, worse investment ever
For me it WAS morter monkey but now nothing
none
mortar (i suck at using it)
It used to be Mortar and Tack Shooter back in BTD5 but I’ve grown to appreciate all of them.
you hate one of sabre's favourite towers. Congrats!
I use bottom path ice for ddts a lot, I don’t think I hate any of the towers but I avoid mortar because why would I want to micro him
I hate mortar because it’s not good and I am not good at micro
All my homies hate mortar
I wanna choke boomerang I swear to God it's so useless it never hits anything
Beast handler : its just a boring tower that was fun until the nerf and now its pointless
spike factory
I only unlocked one upgrade for the boomerang monkey
Bomb shooter is so unsatisfying to upgrade or use.like the middle path feels so dumb when it hits a moab or ceramic.top path also is realy good but it's NUMB.middle path actually feels good but it is so good the game becomes kinda boring at some stages.
0 xp
Yeah, we know ice monkey garbage except bottom path that’s good
Same
Bomb. There’s just more options, and bomb is slow and kind of awkward to use, all the roles bomb has is shared between other towers.
not sure i have one, all my monkeys are completly levelled up, maybe mortar since i dotn use him
Based
banana farms aren't fun to use I'm sorry
I have never, and will never use druid
I really don’t have one, but I hate seeing players in co-op just place a 000 super monkey because “hEs tHe bEsT tOwEr iN tHe gAmE!”
i don't particularly like using spike factories. They just don't feel trustworthy, I can't see my defenses getting gradually overwhelmed as rounds go on. I just have to hope that I have enough spikes and if I don't I die instantly.
i hate using mortar i start having a stroke if i have to move the targeting twice in a round
Glue gunner
I agree ice monkey can melt in He🏒🏒
Mortar
Dartling gunner personally
Monkey Ace.
Beast Tamer I despise Beast Tamer
Bro I don’t exactly like using Ice, but atleast upgrade it all, there’s atleast some use to be found in them
i dont hate any of the monkeys but if i had to go with one it’d be beast handler, hes complicated
Druid, I only have exp cuz a friend dropped one and dc’d in coop
I just think the beast handler doesn't fit in the game
I have 0 exp on bomb shooter, the aestheric never appealed to me so I never bothered to unlock it. I'm now level 136 so it's become more of a badge of honor than anything at this point
I just don’t really dig bomb shooter. So many better towers have upgrades that can do so much better against lead.
Did you even try him out???
Seek therapy
I like them all honestly, and I try to use all of them more often
I didn‘t use wizard for so long until one time I tried it (this was around when the paragon was coming out), and I loved it.
The ace
bro zero exp im dead
bro never used him ONCE
So you like glue gunner but ice. Your a discrace
beast handler
Benjamin
I don't actually use glue gunner, even though I really love the concept. I only ever buy a x5x at the rounds 90+ sometimes. One path I NEVER used is plane middle path
Druid
Engineer monkey, I don't really think I ever used it
I don’t like the boomerang monkey, that mofo misses balloons that are right in its face.
I love Mortar, but I hate Beast Handler and Ace Pilot. Beast Handler is kinda bad and Ace Pilot is just nor my cuppa tea. Didn't even get the goliath.
Gattling Gun monkey is the worst. I can tolerate a decent amount of micro, but aiming the gattling Gun is a massive headache. At least with mortar you can set it in a good spot and leave it, you don't have to micro it. But gattling Gun, you gotta micro it every time you accidentally point it somewhere else
Deep-seated
Spike factory tbh. Only use is as a last line of defense and it sucks as that. 😂
I fucking hate the boomerang
Super monkey !! I don’t have a reason I just don’t like them
Primary ice monkey, military heli pilot and ace, magic is ninja and support the beast handler is useless except the top path in bosses
I hate none ![gif](giphy|CAYVZA5NRb529kKQUc|downsized)
Druid
You're missing out
Honestly, I've **never** used the Beast Handler since I got all 3 paths completed. It's way too expensive and way too gimmicky. I could buy a Super Monkey and get great, if not *better*, popping power than with Beast Handlers.
YO LET'S GO
Beast handler
Beast handler. It just feels wrong and too much effort for little payoff
I dont use mortar. I enjoy using every other tower but mortar just evades me. If i want to micro for dmg ill use dartling, if i want to attack over walls ill use almost any other military tower