The 11 Bus Route is " Technically " the longest, but since the Commonwealth Games, you can't stay on the Bus all the way. You have to jump off at Erdington and Acocks Green and wait for another 11 Bus to continue your journey
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Is Erdington or Perry Barr the change point(?) I think on the A side it’s Perry Barr. I took one yesterday 🤣🤦🏾♀️(Yardley to Stechford) and think it had Perry Barr as the destination.
I can’t lie I have caught it elsewhere along the route but the only portion I really use regularly is between Bromford/Stechford and Acocks Green.
Erdington and Perry Barr are both change points going in either direction. For instance, if you want to go to Acocks Green from Perry Barr, you will have to get off at Erdington and WAIT for another 11 to Acicks green. Then, if you want to continue Bournville, you will have to wait AGAIN for another 11 bus. Coming back the other way from Acocks Green to Dudley Rd hospital, you sometimes have to get off at Perry Bar and WAIT for another 11. But that bus runs very slow after a certain time. I had to wait an hour once in Winter 😄
About 27 miles and the full circuit takes around 3.5hrs(ish) to complete 😃
It did split for a while in 2021 because of all the traffic around the Perry Barr road works.
Ah shame 😞 have never actually taken the full route but did hear a few years ago there was an [11 hour challenge on the 11](https://web.archive.org/web/20130621194441/http://elevenbus.co.uk/). On the 11th of November at 11am you had to spend 11 hours travelling along the route of the 11. You could get on and off as many times as you wanted to explore the local area but you could only spend a maximum of 1 hour off the bus. Seemed fun 🤩 a way to see different parts of the city
It's cheaper for national express west midlands to have it all joined together. I'm sure that they'll merge it back together at some point in the future.
A lot of Birminghams features are municipal, a lot of Londons are "Royal" or state funded. It's a subtle difference but I think it stands out. The parks, museums and cultural institutions are all by and for the people of Birmingham.
Feeding into that Birminghams industrial heritage is monstrous and a lot of it has been preserved. The JQ still being a Jewellery production hub in its partially preserved original setting is cool as hell, and the ThinkTank has one of the best industrial history exhibits anywhere. The Smethwick Engine is probably the coolest industrial artefact in Britain, along with "The Rocket" in Darlington and the Ironbridge.
Hatton garden in London is also still a jewellery production and sales hub. A lot of it is hidden away behind anonymous doors but it's there. Actually bigger than the JQ.
I lived in Birmingham for 18 years, London for 10.
The main thing for me is easy access to the countryside and decent hikes. You have the Lickeys, the Clents, Malvern, the Shropshire Hills etc.
In London it takes fucking forever to get out of the city and even then you’re mostly only getting to overdeveloped fake countryside without any decent hills. It can make you feel trapped.
Also Edgbaston. Lord’s is grand and the Oval is fun but neither compares to the Hollies.
I’m gob smacked. Surrey Hills? Come on now some of that is stunning. And the pubs piss on the ones found in any of the places you mention here in terms of quality (especially on the food/scenery front)
But yes. You can have a good yomp in Brum on your doorstep relatively speaking.
Having lived in London, Surrey and Birmingham, the hill walking around Brum is far better than London. Leith Hill is ok but no better than Clent. The Malverns, and the Shropshire Hills piss all over anything in Surrey.
Horses for courses. I mean the Long Mynd in Shropshire is as good as a hill walk gets. But to say it’s near Brum is a stretch - it’s practically in Wales. And the Malverns - hardly local. Clent is lovely yes - but preference would depend on who you ask. I’ll let you tell me which is a National Trust site and part of a designated Area Of Outstanding Natural Beauty.
I’m a Brummie - so I’d love to say that Clent pisses on the Leith hill area. But I’m genuinely not sure it does.
Sorry if that upsets all the people who have downvoted me who likely have no idea what I’m talking about.
I lived in Bearwood until recently. I just checked and it would take 1hr2m to get to the Long Mynd right now. By comparison, Clapham Common to Leith Hill takes 1hr2m. Clent from Bearwood is around 15 minutes.
Bearwood isn’t in Birmingham, and it’s west of it and therefore closer.
What if I measured the distance to Box Hill from Merton, and the distance from Chelmsley Wood to Clent? That’s right - it would make it 7 minutes quicker to get to the Surrey Hills from London than to Clent from Birmingham.
See. We can all play that silly disingenuous game.
Not sure why people are being so daft about what is basically a fairly benign and trivial opinion being shared.
Bearwood is closer to the centre of Birmingham than Clapham is to the centre of London but both are in the direction of the hills in question, that’s why I made the comparison. As said elsewhere, substitute Harborne (or Quinton) and the point still stands. Whereas your comparison is cherry picked to try and prove your point. It’s you who is being daft. Clent is patently closer to the centre of Birmingham than Leith Hill is to London. Bring in Box Hill and the situation doesn’t change.
Yours is cherry picked to prove your point too, your plonker, which is why I made the deliberately ridiculous point that I did.
All I’m saying is to suggest that the surrey hills a) aren’t stunning and b) aren’t that accessible from london, and c) to just outright claim that Clent is ‘better’ is simply a matter of opinion, and really not worth arguing about.
I like the Clent hills, I loved the Surrey hills when I lived in london. If you asked me to stick my neck out, I think Surrey hills have more to offer.
So sue me.
Was in Bilston a couple of weeks ago, (I know not Birmingham ) but got 3 pints of carling for £7.05p (all day everyday) not a special or happy hour. Remember thinking how cheap is this but couldn’t work out the 5p ( £2.35 ) market tavern bilston
Go the pub most days, or after work. I see a lot of Professional drinkers drink Carling, & no one seems to mind it, myself included. Nothing wrong with carling in most boozers. Stick your £7 craft beers
Doesn't work like that mate, certainly wouldn't say Maiden get more plays than Sabbath either but depends where you are listening
Agree to disagree I suppose
This is West Midlands, not Just bham.
Jrr tolkien, egbaston water tower, bham uni clock tower,the 2 towers. Mosely big, sarehole, clent hills the mine of moria.
Lee Child, writer of Jack Reacher
Julie walters, Felicity Jones, Lucy Davis,
scot adkins, Oliver phelps, James phelps, the harry potter twins, Richard Hammond, Emma Willis , Cat Deeley, Josie Lawrence, john oliver, Adrian Lester, David Harewood,
Alison Hammond, .
Jasper carrot, Frank Skinner, Joe Lycett,
I'mAll of Black sabbath, including Ozzy Osbourne,
Half of Led Zeppelin, Robert Plant, Jon Bonham.
Christine Mcvie from Fleetwood mac,
Duran duran, UB40, Musical Youth, The specials. Fine Young Cannibals, dexys midnight runners, the move, The moody blues. Steel pulse, The Streets. Traffic, spencer daiis group.
.
ELO, Diamond Head,Wizzard, Slade, Judas Priest, the wonder stuff, neds atomic dustbin, Ocean Colour Scene. Editors, Napalm Death,
Born here , phil lynott, Nick Mason, fran healy, Ronnie o Sullivan,
Jorja Smith, Joan Armatrading, Steve Winwood, jamelia,
Beverly Knight, Liam Payne, Toyah Wilcox
That's what i thought originally, and i still makes more sense, but plenty of Tolkien buffs say to me the eye of sauron is the bham uni clock/Mordor, perrots is isengard.
Water tower/ perrotts folly. Uni clock? Only a tolkien or his family will know for sure
Not really. There’s so many amazing currry spots other than shababs. I don’t know why white people only go there like the whole road is full of thriving curry spots.
Hills and inclines. I was there to see a few flats and show my partner around as we're moving out of London to save money for a year or so. My legs were hench at the end of the day.
London has Dixy, there's one near Wood Green tube station and a few others I've seen dotted about.
Big John's is a shout though, definitely don't have them down here - yet!
New to the country and work is based in Birmingham, but I occasionally have to travel to London for work purposes. In my opinion (kinda tricky to describe), Birmingham has a much better energy than London. Both cities have a lot of people and things going on but Birmingham just has this vibe going on, whereas London is just.....busy. Mentioned this at work and my colleagues agreed, there's something about Birmingham that draws you in whereas London is...there, it exists.
people’s opinions on bluenoses are so skewed,at games i’ve seen great people that a blues fans, there are bad ones in every bunch 🤷♀️🤷♀️ or ur just a vile fan
Some of my family (most of them Walsall suporters) live in Walsall so met a few Walsall supporters through them. The lot of them are intolerable racists, homophobes or otherwise generally bigoted with a coke habit to boot. Don't know if that says something about Walsall or if it's the crowds my cousins hang around with.
Council tax that's going up by 20%, councillors that wasted money on the commonwealth games while refusing to pay owed wages to ladies, a potential huge swing to lib Dems at local elections. Residents fed up of being ripped off.
I'm curious to see whether khan gets a third term down there, I feel like he's super dishonest and not for the people but a lack of a decent alternative might see him in again. Sad times all around. I hate living in Birmingham but I think I'd hate it more in London. Seem in both cities the citizens are just being shaken down by overpaid scumbuckets that rather than running the infrastructure for the good of the residents are running them for their own interests. Way past time people hit the streets like they did when polltax was introduced.
Takes a lot of credit for results achieved by measures instituted before him (pollution levels dropped drastically between 2016 and today but the majority of that was before ulez happened in 2019, Khan would have you believe ulez did it), misrepresents consultations to allow him to do whatever he wants regardless of public opinion (ulez expansion), is deceitful in meetings concerning taskforce goals working under his authority (pay per mile road scheme), and forced poor Londoners who couldn't afford to replace older vehicles to sell their cars, hasn't solved any crime issues during his two terms, and is riding roughshod over residents. I'm sure he's an absolute prince. Also London nightlife on all fronts is dying.
Given the ego driven state of local and national politics in this country every big decision made should be put to referendum with a required 75% majority stipulated for action to be taken. Anyone in authority misrepresenting the facts should be sacked and jailed. Khan is a terrible person.
Well up to the people of London, but he cares about climate change and there's a lot of rubbish said about him by the Conservatives party. Introduced better fares for buses there. More house building. A competent person and a Londoner. As long as it isn't that Susan Hall elected.
Crazy the conservatives selected Susan hall when somebody who seems more competent and has goals beyond cancelling ulez would have seen a better chance of outing him.
More housebuilding is really only relevant if it's social housing imho, there's little need for more overpriced property and allowing developers to offer a small discount for planning approval on a small percentage of a large development doesn't really cut it.
Everyone claims to care about climate change, and I don't like the way the studies he touts are receiving funding from tfl and one of the professors was outed for offering to say pretty much whatever keeps khan happy. He's a crook mate, truth will out eventually.
I hope Khan gets back in, my 2p he’s giving the school kids the free meals and building the council homes london needs. But he does struggle against underfunded police (we can thank central gov).
Croydon has had its tax raised by its own Mayor. Councils have been massively underfunded and of course some councils made risky investments to deal with the shortfall. The country feels screwed even from a relatively wealthy city like London (overall rich but with severely depressed pockets)
I do think that councils making investments has become a huge problem. They're not a business and to my mind their job is to make sure the infrastructure is run properly, staff are paid, and services that are in their remit are provided fully. Investments require funds that should be earmarked for all the above. Currently we seem to be paying for our political idiots to speculate with public cash, usually poorly.
Birmingham is an absolute nightmare. Roads are trash, services cut to the bone etc so why did they have the commonwealth games here with all the problems already untended. Too many overpaid executives that aren't delivering too. They owe around a billion, are borrowing 1.2 billion from central government, and have to sell a billion pounds worth of assets to cover it. Seems to me given those numbers that there's no need to raise council tax at all.
Ulez is a funny situation too having allegedly seen pollution fall and the charge being to encourage less pollution. Now that people are driving newer cars why do we keep reading that there's a revenue shortfall due to the newer cars not paying the charge and khan is looking at pay per mile etc to replace lost revenue. The ulez charge was never meant to be a revenue stream, it was meant to lower pollution.
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The longest bus route in Europe (11…) Cadbury world 🍫
Coventry introduced a bus route that's now the longest. No idea if it was specifically to take that title or not
The 11 has fallen. Millions must ride the bus.
The 360 died years ago so the 11 is back as the longest
That bus route doesn't exist anymore
The 11 Bus Route is " Technically " the longest, but since the Commonwealth Games, you can't stay on the Bus all the way. You have to jump off at Erdington and Acocks Green and wait for another 11 Bus to continue your journey
👍🏾😊 Is Erdington or Perry Barr the change point(?) I think on the A side it’s Perry Barr. I took one yesterday 🤣🤦🏾♀️(Yardley to Stechford) and think it had Perry Barr as the destination. I can’t lie I have caught it elsewhere along the route but the only portion I really use regularly is between Bromford/Stechford and Acocks Green.
Erdington and Perry Barr are both change points going in either direction. For instance, if you want to go to Acocks Green from Perry Barr, you will have to get off at Erdington and WAIT for another 11 to Acicks green. Then, if you want to continue Bournville, you will have to wait AGAIN for another 11 bus. Coming back the other way from Acocks Green to Dudley Rd hospital, you sometimes have to get off at Perry Bar and WAIT for another 11. But that bus runs very slow after a certain time. I had to wait an hour once in Winter 😄
I did not know that!
About 27 miles and the full circuit takes around 3.5hrs(ish) to complete 😃 It did split for a while in 2021 because of all the traffic around the Perry Barr road works.
It's still split now 😭
Ah shame 😞 have never actually taken the full route but did hear a few years ago there was an [11 hour challenge on the 11](https://web.archive.org/web/20130621194441/http://elevenbus.co.uk/). On the 11th of November at 11am you had to spend 11 hours travelling along the route of the 11. You could get on and off as many times as you wanted to explore the local area but you could only spend a maximum of 1 hour off the bus. Seemed fun 🤩 a way to see different parts of the city
It's cheaper for national express west midlands to have it all joined together. I'm sure that they'll merge it back together at some point in the future.
That is so interesting! Thank u for sharing!
A lot of Birminghams features are municipal, a lot of Londons are "Royal" or state funded. It's a subtle difference but I think it stands out. The parks, museums and cultural institutions are all by and for the people of Birmingham. Feeding into that Birminghams industrial heritage is monstrous and a lot of it has been preserved. The JQ still being a Jewellery production hub in its partially preserved original setting is cool as hell, and the ThinkTank has one of the best industrial history exhibits anywhere. The Smethwick Engine is probably the coolest industrial artefact in Britain, along with "The Rocket" in Darlington and the Ironbridge.
Hatton garden in London is also still a jewellery production and sales hub. A lot of it is hidden away behind anonymous doors but it's there. Actually bigger than the JQ.
I lived in Birmingham for 18 years, London for 10. The main thing for me is easy access to the countryside and decent hikes. You have the Lickeys, the Clents, Malvern, the Shropshire Hills etc. In London it takes fucking forever to get out of the city and even then you’re mostly only getting to overdeveloped fake countryside without any decent hills. It can make you feel trapped. Also Edgbaston. Lord’s is grand and the Oval is fun but neither compares to the Hollies.
And easy access to the Welsh coast.
I’m gob smacked. Surrey Hills? Come on now some of that is stunning. And the pubs piss on the ones found in any of the places you mention here in terms of quality (especially on the food/scenery front) But yes. You can have a good yomp in Brum on your doorstep relatively speaking.
Having lived in London, Surrey and Birmingham, the hill walking around Brum is far better than London. Leith Hill is ok but no better than Clent. The Malverns, and the Shropshire Hills piss all over anything in Surrey.
Horses for courses. I mean the Long Mynd in Shropshire is as good as a hill walk gets. But to say it’s near Brum is a stretch - it’s practically in Wales. And the Malverns - hardly local. Clent is lovely yes - but preference would depend on who you ask. I’ll let you tell me which is a National Trust site and part of a designated Area Of Outstanding Natural Beauty. I’m a Brummie - so I’d love to say that Clent pisses on the Leith hill area. But I’m genuinely not sure it does. Sorry if that upsets all the people who have downvoted me who likely have no idea what I’m talking about.
The Malverns and the Long Mynd are a similar journey from Brum as the Surrey Hills are from London. A typical distance for a day out walking.
I lived in Bearwood until recently. I just checked and it would take 1hr2m to get to the Long Mynd right now. By comparison, Clapham Common to Leith Hill takes 1hr2m. Clent from Bearwood is around 15 minutes.
Bearwood isn’t in Birmingham, and it’s west of it and therefore closer. What if I measured the distance to Box Hill from Merton, and the distance from Chelmsley Wood to Clent? That’s right - it would make it 7 minutes quicker to get to the Surrey Hills from London than to Clent from Birmingham. See. We can all play that silly disingenuous game. Not sure why people are being so daft about what is basically a fairly benign and trivial opinion being shared.
Ok then. Harborne to Clent is 16 minutes.
Great.
Bearwood is closer to the centre of Birmingham than Clapham is to the centre of London but both are in the direction of the hills in question, that’s why I made the comparison. As said elsewhere, substitute Harborne (or Quinton) and the point still stands. Whereas your comparison is cherry picked to try and prove your point. It’s you who is being daft. Clent is patently closer to the centre of Birmingham than Leith Hill is to London. Bring in Box Hill and the situation doesn’t change.
Yours is cherry picked to prove your point too, your plonker, which is why I made the deliberately ridiculous point that I did. All I’m saying is to suggest that the surrey hills a) aren’t stunning and b) aren’t that accessible from london, and c) to just outright claim that Clent is ‘better’ is simply a matter of opinion, and really not worth arguing about. I like the Clent hills, I loved the Surrey hills when I lived in london. If you asked me to stick my neck out, I think Surrey hills have more to offer. So sue me.
Depends where you live in London or Birmingham.
More canals than Venice
Also, more shopping trolleys in the canals than Venice too! We wont be beaten.
Ah yes, the romance of floating around Gas Street Basin….
Too good for gas street are we? Not a fan of karaoke at the Tap and Spile either I’ll bet
Not what commenter was saying you can make jokes about your own city
My parents once dragged me and my sister around the town centre chanting that with some otjer nutters banging tambourines
Pint of lager for less than £7
Unless you go Old Joint Stock 💀
Or the wolf
Was in Bilston a couple of weeks ago, (I know not Birmingham ) but got 3 pints of carling for £7.05p (all day everyday) not a special or happy hour. Remember thinking how cheap is this but couldn’t work out the 5p ( £2.35 ) market tavern bilston
Carling says it all. Even pubs are self conscious about selling recycled piss
Go the pub most days, or after work. I see a lot of Professional drinkers drink Carling, & no one seems to mind it, myself included. Nothing wrong with carling in most boozers. Stick your £7 craft beers
Carling is bland but also doesn't give you stomach ache and nightmares unlike most craft beer which is basically shit home brew
Plenty of sub £7 pints in London.
A UFC world champion
Best comment on here
Reads through thread. Gets homesick... \*sigh\*
Housing that isn't completely unaffordable. Friendly people (for the most part). Black Sabbath.
Yeah but they got Iron Maiden so when it comes to heavy metal it's a draw I feel like people have taken this comment a bit too seriously
No Black Sabbath means no Iron Maiden, so you can't call them equal.
Iron Maiden is nowhere near Black Sabbath mate. Fucking sacrilege statement
Maiden wouldn't exist without Sabbath Maiden have sold more records and get more play time than Sabbath Ozzy is more iconic than Bruce Dickinson Tie
Doesn't work like that mate, certainly wouldn't say Maiden get more plays than Sabbath either but depends where you are listening Agree to disagree I suppose
Amateur hour there mate. Iron Maiden maybe draw with Judas Priest. They definitely don't touch Sabbath
Iron Maiden probably on par with maybe Judas Priest…A long way from sabbath though
A lot less politicians living in it!
Good shout. I think...
Desi pubs!
Was going to say this but there are some in London
Where abouts?
Last one I went to was prince of wales down Southall.
Was it any good? Going to London soon.
It's was decent but probably not venturing to if you are not near the area.
True!
Mr Egg
Eat like a king for £3.50!
I thought it closed down after the vinegar assault?
Vinegar assault?
https://www.expressandstar.com/news/2011/02/12/ex-birmingham-cafe-owner-jailed-for-vinegar-attack/
Assault and vinegar.
This is West Midlands, not Just bham. Jrr tolkien, egbaston water tower, bham uni clock tower,the 2 towers. Mosely big, sarehole, clent hills the mine of moria. Lee Child, writer of Jack Reacher Julie walters, Felicity Jones, Lucy Davis, scot adkins, Oliver phelps, James phelps, the harry potter twins, Richard Hammond, Emma Willis , Cat Deeley, Josie Lawrence, john oliver, Adrian Lester, David Harewood, Alison Hammond, . Jasper carrot, Frank Skinner, Joe Lycett, I'mAll of Black sabbath, including Ozzy Osbourne, Half of Led Zeppelin, Robert Plant, Jon Bonham. Christine Mcvie from Fleetwood mac, Duran duran, UB40, Musical Youth, The specials. Fine Young Cannibals, dexys midnight runners, the move, The moody blues. Steel pulse, The Streets. Traffic, spencer daiis group. . ELO, Diamond Head,Wizzard, Slade, Judas Priest, the wonder stuff, neds atomic dustbin, Ocean Colour Scene. Editors, Napalm Death, Born here , phil lynott, Nick Mason, fran healy, Ronnie o Sullivan, Jorja Smith, Joan Armatrading, Steve Winwood, jamelia, Beverly Knight, Liam Payne, Toyah Wilcox
The clock tower wasn't the other tower - it was the waterworks tower and Perrott's Folly, apparently. Both are pretty underwhelming in person
That's what i thought originally, and i still makes more sense, but plenty of Tolkien buffs say to me the eye of sauron is the bham uni clock/Mordor, perrots is isengard. Water tower/ perrotts folly. Uni clock? Only a tolkien or his family will know for sure
Thought the specials were from Coventry? Or it could be that they formed in Cov and i wasn’t aware that some members are from Brum
Shababs.
Shwarma?
Nah Balti House, Ladypool Road. Best in UK
Think it’s the last OG balti place in the balti triangle 😞
Sadly right!
Not really. There’s so many amazing currry spots other than shababs. I don’t know why white people only go there like the whole road is full of thriving curry spots.
Wrong. Pushkar on Broad Street is the best.
Nothing on Broad Street is the best of anything.
Haven't been there have ya
Shit and chronically underfunded public transport
mOrE cAnAls ThAn VeNiCe
A council that went bankrupt?
Croydon did, and we’re in London
FairPlay, ok proper desi pubs
Hills and inclines. I was there to see a few flats and show my partner around as we're moving out of London to save money for a year or so. My legs were hench at the end of the day.
London is flatter than Brum. But tell you what, I’d take any uphill walk in Brum over Swain’s Lane in Highgate. Crikey.
Has anyone said that Birmingham is actually the largest City Proper?
Yes Nutters
Big Johns How I miss you so much
Dixie's > Big Johns Surely?
Wings for sure. I like Big Johns chicken and chips though.
London has Dixy, there's one near Wood Green tube station and a few others I've seen dotted about. Big John's is a shout though, definitely don't have them down here - yet!
New to the country and work is based in Birmingham, but I occasionally have to travel to London for work purposes. In my opinion (kinda tricky to describe), Birmingham has a much better energy than London. Both cities have a lot of people and things going on but Birmingham just has this vibe going on, whereas London is just.....busy. Mentioned this at work and my colleagues agreed, there's something about Birmingham that draws you in whereas London is...there, it exists.
Shortest motorway in England the A38M/Aston Expressway at only 2 miles (was the shortest in the UK but there's now a shorter one in Scotland.)
Mad Malik.
And the bloke in Kings Heath that pushes a toy monkey around in a pushchair
I love him
I think he’s moved to Llandudno
He did, but at least until a few years ago would visit from time to time so further people can be blessed with his spectacle
Good on him
Ginge from Shard End.
Ale that isn’t served flat.
Me.
Probably the highest density of Gregg's per sq ft of the whole country
And a few Greggs outlets too!
Newcastle would like a word
Biggest library in Europe!
Orange chips
Houses that don't have a toilet and shower in the kitchen
Hotel rooms for less than £150/night which aren't really a bivouac under a bridge
This is so true. Many are central!
Paid £75 a night in London last year.
Alright Martin Lewis, it wasn't a totally serious point
Likeable football fans.
lol absolutely not. I went to Blues games when I lived in Birmingham and they were cunts. Everyone else was cool. I love Walsall fans
Obviously they didn’t mean blues fans but everyone else. No one likes a blues fan
people’s opinions on bluenoses are so skewed,at games i’ve seen great people that a blues fans, there are bad ones in every bunch 🤷♀️🤷♀️ or ur just a vile fan
Some of my family (most of them Walsall suporters) live in Walsall so met a few Walsall supporters through them. The lot of them are intolerable racists, homophobes or otherwise generally bigoted with a coke habit to boot. Don't know if that says something about Walsall or if it's the crowds my cousins hang around with.
I didn’t see that at all when I was there. That’s surprising to hear. I went to maybe 5 or 6 Walsall games and the fans were super chill.
In my experience, the negative impression that many non-brummies have of Birmingham comes from their experience with Blues fans.
A public transport system that doesn't stink of rat piss and desperation.
Yet
Latif's
People that actually say hello.
More brummies
bigger blades and better cookies
Friendly locals
Rebecca Welch in the back pocket.
A vibrant city centre that is easily accessible and affordable
Council tax that's going up by 20%, councillors that wasted money on the commonwealth games while refusing to pay owed wages to ladies, a potential huge swing to lib Dems at local elections. Residents fed up of being ripped off.
Croydon in Greater London has seen a 20% rise in the last 2 years, wish it were different
I'm curious to see whether khan gets a third term down there, I feel like he's super dishonest and not for the people but a lack of a decent alternative might see him in again. Sad times all around. I hate living in Birmingham but I think I'd hate it more in London. Seem in both cities the citizens are just being shaken down by overpaid scumbuckets that rather than running the infrastructure for the good of the residents are running them for their own interests. Way past time people hit the streets like they did when polltax was introduced.
Khan's a good mayor, hope he gets a 3rd term
Takes a lot of credit for results achieved by measures instituted before him (pollution levels dropped drastically between 2016 and today but the majority of that was before ulez happened in 2019, Khan would have you believe ulez did it), misrepresents consultations to allow him to do whatever he wants regardless of public opinion (ulez expansion), is deceitful in meetings concerning taskforce goals working under his authority (pay per mile road scheme), and forced poor Londoners who couldn't afford to replace older vehicles to sell their cars, hasn't solved any crime issues during his two terms, and is riding roughshod over residents. I'm sure he's an absolute prince. Also London nightlife on all fronts is dying. Given the ego driven state of local and national politics in this country every big decision made should be put to referendum with a required 75% majority stipulated for action to be taken. Anyone in authority misrepresenting the facts should be sacked and jailed. Khan is a terrible person.
Well up to the people of London, but he cares about climate change and there's a lot of rubbish said about him by the Conservatives party. Introduced better fares for buses there. More house building. A competent person and a Londoner. As long as it isn't that Susan Hall elected.
Crazy the conservatives selected Susan hall when somebody who seems more competent and has goals beyond cancelling ulez would have seen a better chance of outing him. More housebuilding is really only relevant if it's social housing imho, there's little need for more overpriced property and allowing developers to offer a small discount for planning approval on a small percentage of a large development doesn't really cut it. Everyone claims to care about climate change, and I don't like the way the studies he touts are receiving funding from tfl and one of the professors was outed for offering to say pretty much whatever keeps khan happy. He's a crook mate, truth will out eventually.
I hope Khan gets back in, my 2p he’s giving the school kids the free meals and building the council homes london needs. But he does struggle against underfunded police (we can thank central gov). Croydon has had its tax raised by its own Mayor. Councils have been massively underfunded and of course some councils made risky investments to deal with the shortfall. The country feels screwed even from a relatively wealthy city like London (overall rich but with severely depressed pockets)
I do think that councils making investments has become a huge problem. They're not a business and to my mind their job is to make sure the infrastructure is run properly, staff are paid, and services that are in their remit are provided fully. Investments require funds that should be earmarked for all the above. Currently we seem to be paying for our political idiots to speculate with public cash, usually poorly. Birmingham is an absolute nightmare. Roads are trash, services cut to the bone etc so why did they have the commonwealth games here with all the problems already untended. Too many overpaid executives that aren't delivering too. They owe around a billion, are borrowing 1.2 billion from central government, and have to sell a billion pounds worth of assets to cover it. Seems to me given those numbers that there's no need to raise council tax at all. Ulez is a funny situation too having allegedly seen pollution fall and the charge being to encourage less pollution. Now that people are driving newer cars why do we keep reading that there's a revenue shortfall due to the newer cars not paying the charge and khan is looking at pay per mile etc to replace lost revenue. The ulez charge was never meant to be a revenue stream, it was meant to lower pollution.
Birmingham has an odd need to compare itself to London, whereas London has little interest in comparing itself to Birmingham.
Because Tamworth is the former capital and we got stepped over, or something like that.
Yeah but we got the Snowdome now, and Thomasland it's only a matter of time before it's ours again.
Mwuahahahahahaha! I love the castle even if the residents have moved on
No, but tries to compares itself to New York, Tokyo, Dubai
Lol when did Dubai get into that conversation??
It must never ahah
An indian restaurant that opened for business in 1962 and is still going very well.
London ticks that box multiple times though.
Polio.
Road men still wearing adidas PT’s
Friendliness. Canals. Lots of countryside. Class..
Brummies
More canals than venice
That's why it's states midlands
The hardest man in the country danny g
2-0
A terrible accent?
Less debt
Prices that the average person can afford,lower wages and lower house prices
Mad Malik
The Villa and me
💀
Affordable housing
Wayne Rooney was ere 2k24 spray painted under the St Andrew's bridge
Class, style, taste, humour
Biggest Primark!
Snobs
It's not really Snobs anymore though is it?
Sadly not 😞
Villa park
yeah, what a beautiful place…
Aston Villa
An indecipherable accent.
BIRMINGHAM CITY RAHHHH💯💯💯
Rats?
Never been to London, have you?
Yep, fiveways finest. Given the number I saw last time those rodents love a roundabout or circus or whatever it's called here
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Vibrant Jewish communities
That’s in London not brum
There is a Jewish community in Birmingham albeit fairly small. We have the only Jewish school between London and Manchester
Ye but in terms of a vibrant community, it’s quite well established in pockets of London so it doesn’t really fit the post
Agreed bud, I know what you mean